WEBVTT - SuperCoach DRAFT 101 | Drafted: SC Draft Show 0:00:05.440 --> 0:00:10.640 Get everyone. Welcome to Drafted, the first episode of our 0:00:10.760 --> 0:00:14.280 dedicated super Coach Draft show for season twenty twenty five. 0:00:14.880 --> 0:00:18.120 We'll be dropping into the official super Coach podcast feed 0:00:18.320 --> 0:00:21.160 with our positional draft rankings in the preseason, as well 0:00:21.200 --> 0:00:24.959 as some waver Wire content during the regular season. But 0:00:25.040 --> 0:00:27.280 to start with, let's start with the basics. If you've 0:00:27.640 --> 0:00:30.639 ever thought about getting into Super Coach Draft but don't 0:00:30.640 --> 0:00:33.480 know where to start, this is it. We'll be going 0:00:33.479 --> 0:00:35.479 through all the basics of super Coach Draft to get 0:00:35.479 --> 0:00:39.159 you started and on your way. I'm Dossi. You may 0:00:39.159 --> 0:00:42.040 have heard me on shows such as The Phantoms Lair, 0:00:42.320 --> 0:00:45.320 The Draft Doctors, and podpot The Point of Difference podcast. 0:00:45.400 --> 0:00:48.200 Have played one form of draft or another for every 0:00:48.280 --> 0:00:51.480 year over a decade, have a few premierships under my belt, 0:00:51.479 --> 0:00:54.560 but recently I'm much more well known for my ability 0:00:54.560 --> 0:00:56.840 to be runner up unfortunately in the last few years. 0:00:57.640 --> 0:01:00.440 Joining me, though, I have two favorites of the super 0:01:00.440 --> 0:01:05.840 Coach community, both former members of the world famous Jock 0:01:05.880 --> 0:01:11.880 Reynolds podcast, reuniting right here on Drafted. First off, very 0:01:11.920 --> 0:01:17.480 familiar voice right here on this feed patch, I'll introduce 0:01:17.560 --> 0:01:18.360 your special guest. 0:01:18.400 --> 0:01:19.039 We've got as well. 0:01:19.319 --> 0:01:19.640 Good a. 0:01:19.920 --> 0:01:22.039 It's a delight to be here and a delight to 0:01:22.080 --> 0:01:25.200 introduce the man who introduced me to drafting and drafts. 0:01:25.240 --> 0:01:26.039 It's leg Dog. 0:01:27.319 --> 0:01:30.520 Thank you for having me, gentlemen. It's exciting to come 0:01:30.560 --> 0:01:31.880 out of retirement. 0:01:32.160 --> 0:01:33.320 For the sixteenth time. 0:01:33.360 --> 0:01:34.200 The sixteenth time. 0:01:34.280 --> 0:01:37.840 Yes, the tattered copy of the Michael Jordan press release 0:01:37.880 --> 0:01:40.679 of I'm Back is getting a bit bit torn and 0:01:40.720 --> 0:01:42.680 tatted and covered in stains. 0:01:43.760 --> 0:01:45.959 Yep, But I'll drop it next year as well when 0:01:45.959 --> 0:01:48.320 I retire later this year. It's going to be fantastic. 0:01:48.360 --> 0:01:51.680 And I'm excited to talk about Super Coach Draft in 0:01:51.760 --> 0:01:54.200 an official format. Bloody exciting. 0:01:55.000 --> 0:01:58.280 It is exciting keen to talk draft this preseason. Yeah, 0:01:58.280 --> 0:02:01.200 we haven't really done a lot of draft content on 0:02:01.240 --> 0:02:04.320 the Super Coach podcast feed in the past. We know 0:02:04.360 --> 0:02:07.800 that you yourself, Letdog, though, have written plenty of great 0:02:07.880 --> 0:02:10.760 content over at Code Sports last year especially. You know 0:02:10.800 --> 0:02:13.040 you were covering the waiver wires each week. You did 0:02:13.080 --> 0:02:15.320 a lot of preseason stuff there. You've got plenty more 0:02:15.360 --> 0:02:19.720 to come on the written front this preseason. But why 0:02:19.720 --> 0:02:22.359 don't we just start with the very very very basics. 0:02:22.760 --> 0:02:24.240 What is Super Coach Draft? 0:02:24.280 --> 0:02:29.120 Let Dog I've been put it simply, it's super coach, 0:02:29.200 --> 0:02:33.040 but each player can only be picked once by one team, 0:02:33.080 --> 0:02:36.000 so you can play with as many teams as you like. 0:02:36.320 --> 0:02:39.880 Twelve to eighteen is generally the range you want to 0:02:39.919 --> 0:02:43.200 work in. And yeah, you start with pick one, You 0:02:43.360 --> 0:02:45.360 take the best player, and it goes on from there. 0:02:46.600 --> 0:02:48.800 During the week, you know, after you've picked your team, 0:02:48.880 --> 0:02:52.600 there's generally wave a wire pickups where you can put 0:02:52.600 --> 0:02:54.920 in a bid on a player to pick up who's available, 0:02:54.919 --> 0:02:56.880 who's a free agent. You put him into your team 0:02:56.919 --> 0:02:58.400 if you think he's going to be good that week, 0:02:58.440 --> 0:03:03.200 and then you hopefully beat your free Similarly to you, DOSSI, 0:03:04.360 --> 0:03:07.120 I'm very much a runners up sort of man when 0:03:07.160 --> 0:03:09.280 it comes to drafting. I'm very good at getting to 0:03:09.320 --> 0:03:11.919 a Grand Final. I'm very good at losing them to 0:03:12.720 --> 0:03:13.800 Patch in particular. 0:03:14.320 --> 0:03:19.160 Hello, Well, then Patch, you can talk about your love 0:03:19.200 --> 0:03:22.440 for draft and what is it that you enjoy about 0:03:22.440 --> 0:03:24.520 playing the different format. You know a lot of people 0:03:24.720 --> 0:03:26.880 maybe listening, have just played the classic, but there is 0:03:26.960 --> 0:03:29.000 the format. You just switch it over on the on 0:03:29.080 --> 0:03:31.360 the app or on the website wherever you go, and 0:03:31.360 --> 0:03:33.200 you just hit the draft button and you go over 0:03:33.200 --> 0:03:36.560 to that screen. What makes you what made you fall 0:03:36.560 --> 0:03:38.840 in love with draft? When let Dog introduced it to 0:03:38.960 --> 0:03:39.440 us as you. 0:03:39.560 --> 0:03:42.240 I mean, there are two big things that I fell 0:03:42.240 --> 0:03:45.320 in love with. One was, you know, in classic, if 0:03:45.360 --> 0:03:47.560 you're playing leagues yet to the end of the season 0:03:48.040 --> 0:03:50.480 and so many people have the exact same team, everyone's 0:03:50.480 --> 0:03:54.200 got very similar players. Everyone's got bond, your captained bond. 0:03:54.760 --> 0:03:57.560 You know, everyone's got the same back line, the same forwards. 0:03:57.600 --> 0:04:00.240 Even this year, looking at Classic, a lot of mid 0:04:00.280 --> 0:04:02.200 prices are just going to be the same and everyone's 0:04:02.240 --> 0:04:04.560 forward line. But in draft, none of that. You don't 0:04:04.600 --> 0:04:07.120 get the chance to do it. Once Jack mccray's off 0:04:07.120 --> 0:04:09.240 the board, no one else speaking Jack McCrae. You don't 0:04:09.280 --> 0:04:12.280 have eighteen teams in a league full of Jack mccray's. 0:04:12.320 --> 0:04:15.520 So that's really nice that you get that that point 0:04:15.560 --> 0:04:18.279 of difference. Ever, because every player is a point of difference, 0:04:19.560 --> 0:04:23.800 So that's really nice to have different players and by extension, 0:04:23.920 --> 0:04:27.599 let other guys shine who you might never consider picking. 0:04:29.000 --> 0:04:31.279 You know some players and yet they you know, like 0:04:31.279 --> 0:04:34.000 an Alex Neilbullen is the perfect example where you know, 0:04:34.040 --> 0:04:36.520 maybe this year people might look at him, but previously 0:04:36.600 --> 0:04:39.320 is no one's ever touched him in classic, but he's 0:04:39.360 --> 0:04:42.120 been a draft nugget that you could just pick up 0:04:42.480 --> 0:04:45.080 and enjoy watching him, and it's been really nice. And 0:04:45.080 --> 0:04:47.200 then the other side of it is Draft day itself 0:04:48.200 --> 0:04:49.960 is just so much fun to get around your friends, 0:04:50.720 --> 0:04:54.599 even getting around strangers. If you're doing it online, which 0:04:54.600 --> 0:04:56.039 I've done before as well, you're just going to drop 0:04:56.040 --> 0:04:59.400 into a draft and pick, or you set it up 0:04:59.440 --> 0:05:01.520 and you have of you know, a big barbecue with 0:05:01.520 --> 0:05:04.479 smoked meats, and you hang out and talk some crap 0:05:04.520 --> 0:05:06.200 for a little while, and then you sit down and 0:05:06.880 --> 0:05:10.080 start picking, all in person, and it's great fun to 0:05:11.000 --> 0:05:12.920 to grab someone just before someone else is going to 0:05:12.960 --> 0:05:15.000 pick it, and you know, you pick Tom Green and 0:05:15.040 --> 0:05:17.400 everyone cries out and I was going to pick him next. 0:05:18.320 --> 0:05:21.119 Is a wonderful feeling. We won't talk about the feeling 0:05:21.279 --> 0:05:22.920 when somebody else grabs the player you were going to 0:05:22.960 --> 0:05:25.440 pick next. But it's just it's just good fun. It's 0:05:25.520 --> 0:05:29.280 just really nice. It's a different variation of the format. 0:05:29.760 --> 0:05:32.880 And then I know it's just I just think it's neat, Dossie, 0:05:32.920 --> 0:05:33.839 I just think it's neat. 0:05:34.279 --> 0:05:37.599 Yeah, I'm with you. I've always loved the format. I 0:05:37.600 --> 0:05:39.839 think I might have even played it before Classic, Like 0:05:39.960 --> 0:05:44.080 my memory of draft just goes back that long. Yeah, 0:05:44.240 --> 0:05:46.360 just just love playing it every year. Like you said, 0:05:46.440 --> 0:05:49.600 draft days a great day on the calendar, especially if 0:05:49.600 --> 0:05:51.560 you do it in person. There is just that special 0:05:52.040 --> 0:05:54.320 special thing about getting together with your mates. I mean, 0:05:54.400 --> 0:05:56.760 especially as you get a little older and it's harder 0:05:56.760 --> 0:05:58.840 to see people. It's really nice to catch up on that. 0:05:59.160 --> 0:06:02.400 You know that one day the preseason. I suppose you 0:06:02.480 --> 0:06:05.320 mentioned it a little bit earlier. Lekdog. In terms of 0:06:05.680 --> 0:06:09.159 league settings, when people are sort of starting setting up 0:06:09.160 --> 0:06:11.279 this draft, because it is kind of how you want 0:06:11.279 --> 0:06:13.040 to start. You pop up to a screen. You've got 0:06:13.080 --> 0:06:15.279 to kind of make your league or join your league. 0:06:15.839 --> 0:06:18.760 You've got to have that commissioner that's running it. What 0:06:18.800 --> 0:06:21.919 do you suggest if people are jumping into their first draft. 0:06:22.040 --> 0:06:24.240 You mentioned a few different things about how many teams 0:06:24.240 --> 0:06:27.239 you want, etc. Let's hear what do you think people 0:06:27.240 --> 0:06:29.080 should start with on those settings? 0:06:29.640 --> 0:06:32.000 Well, if you're new to drafting, I guess the number 0:06:32.000 --> 0:06:34.520 one thing is you want active teams. So I ran 0:06:35.560 --> 0:06:38.640 a work league last year with people who'd never played 0:06:38.640 --> 0:06:41.919 Super Coach before. We only had I think six maybe 0:06:41.960 --> 0:06:45.760 eight teams in and that was fun because they were 0:06:45.760 --> 0:06:47.680 all active. So you want to make sure how many 0:06:47.680 --> 0:06:49.760 teams you pick, you're actually gonna have coaches who are 0:06:49.800 --> 0:06:53.360 participating and making weekly updates to the team. The other 0:06:53.360 --> 0:06:55.840 thing is, if you're starting out, you probably don't want 0:06:55.839 --> 0:06:59.560 to overcomplicate it and have you forty guys on your team. 0:06:59.839 --> 0:07:02.200 To keep it's simple, you want to probably have four 0:07:02.279 --> 0:07:04.560 or five defenders, four or five mids, a ruck, and 0:07:04.839 --> 0:07:07.520 four or five forwards and then a couple of guys 0:07:07.560 --> 0:07:10.400 on the bench. Just keep it really simple. That way, 0:07:10.440 --> 0:07:13.440 the draft doesn't take all day. You still have the 0:07:13.480 --> 0:07:15.880 same amount of fun. It means if you have a 0:07:15.920 --> 0:07:17.920 smaller amount of teams or a small amount of players 0:07:17.920 --> 0:07:20.400 required on your team, it means the wave of wise 0:07:20.480 --> 0:07:22.120 going to be full of bargains and you're never going 0:07:22.200 --> 0:07:25.560 to get too stuck with you no offense, but your 0:07:25.560 --> 0:07:28.800 Thompson downs and whatnot. You're going to have opportunity to 0:07:28.800 --> 0:07:32.000 pick up fun players. So keep it simple. Just how 0:07:32.120 --> 0:07:34.720 many teams as you think coaches will be active, and 0:07:34.760 --> 0:07:38.040 then yeah, play with the settings. But less is often 0:07:38.160 --> 0:07:40.560 more when it comes to setting up your first couple of. 0:07:40.600 --> 0:07:44.960 Drafts patch you had a similar experience with draft I 0:07:45.000 --> 0:07:48.480 know that recently, I reckon the norm of how many 0:07:48.560 --> 0:07:51.920 players on field has drastically reduced. I think maybe in 0:07:52.800 --> 0:07:54.800 speaking to what you're saying, let dog people just want 0:07:54.840 --> 0:07:57.080 to jump in, have a bit of fun, set the 0:07:57.120 --> 0:08:00.560 lineups pretty quickly. I feel like nowadays sort of a 0:08:00.640 --> 0:08:02.760 you know, the average players on field, when back when 0:08:02.800 --> 0:08:05.240 I was really playing quite a lot in the early days, 0:08:05.240 --> 0:08:10.240 it was like five defenders, seven mids, one ruck and 0:08:10.440 --> 0:08:13.560 five forwards. That's pretty much the standard. Seven sorry, five 0:08:13.720 --> 0:08:16.360 one seven, five was the typical format. But I think 0:08:16.480 --> 0:08:19.200 nowadays it's sort of a bit shallower, but maybe a 0:08:19.200 --> 0:08:20.200 bit easier to manage. 0:08:21.320 --> 0:08:25.520 Yeah, oh sorry, jumped in your patch. Yeah. I think 0:08:25.680 --> 0:08:30.160 for me, like twenty two players is that nice area 0:08:30.440 --> 0:08:34.640 unless you're going to go full fifty player bloody dynasty 0:08:34.880 --> 0:08:37.040 rookie list leagues, which is a whole nother thing. But 0:08:37.120 --> 0:08:39.440 that twenty two players for me as an experience player, 0:08:39.520 --> 0:08:41.800 is that real prime area. But I think if you're 0:08:41.840 --> 0:08:44.680 starting out sort of twelve to fifteen players, the other 0:08:44.720 --> 0:08:47.559 options you've gotten, they're probably a simpler way to get 0:08:47.600 --> 0:08:48.600 into the draft format. 0:08:49.640 --> 0:08:52.840 Absolutely, there is other formats of the game you just 0:08:52.920 --> 0:08:55.120 mentioned now don't have patch. Are you a keeper league 0:08:55.160 --> 0:08:56.440 officionado yourself? 0:08:56.640 --> 0:08:59.120 I did keep leagues before I did regular drafts. 0:08:59.160 --> 0:09:02.360 Well, okay, let's hear your recap. So there is the 0:09:02.440 --> 0:09:05.120 single season draft is what we're mainly going to be 0:09:05.120 --> 0:09:08.120 talking about on this show. And single season draft you 0:09:08.240 --> 0:09:10.079 draft a team at the start of the season. We'll 0:09:10.080 --> 0:09:12.120 talk about how that happens in a second, but you 0:09:12.200 --> 0:09:14.040 draft your team at the start of the season, much 0:09:14.120 --> 0:09:17.280 like if you've played an NFL draft or anything like that. NBA, 0:09:17.400 --> 0:09:19.959 it's the same deal. You have your players for that season, 0:09:20.000 --> 0:09:22.239 and then at the end of the season you redraft 0:09:22.240 --> 0:09:24.320 them again and it's a completely different team. But with 0:09:24.520 --> 0:09:25.920 keeper leagues it's a little bit different. 0:09:25.920 --> 0:09:26.199 Patch. 0:09:26.800 --> 0:09:30.000 Yeah, it's for the people that want to play least 0:09:30.120 --> 0:09:32.720 list manager just the whole way through, or people that 0:09:32.760 --> 0:09:36.520 are just insane, which we all are in that. You know, 0:09:36.600 --> 0:09:39.199 you do your draft as Lack mentioned off, and you 0:09:39.240 --> 0:09:41.360 can have up to I think like an I own 0:09:41.440 --> 0:09:43.520 a league that had forty eight players in each list 0:09:43.520 --> 0:09:46.960 at one point, which is a bit absurd, and then 0:09:46.960 --> 0:09:49.240 from r TOE you keep all of those players and 0:09:49.280 --> 0:09:52.600 you might de list three or five or eight, and 0:09:52.640 --> 0:09:54.400 then you go to the National Draft, which is the 0:09:54.440 --> 0:09:57.680 pool of every player that's just been drafted in November, 0:09:57.720 --> 0:09:59.760 and then you pick from that, and it's simulating a 0:09:59.800 --> 0:10:02.960 real list in that respect. You've got to make sure 0:10:02.960 --> 0:10:05.000 you know you've got young players coming through and you 0:10:05.000 --> 0:10:08.160 can't load up on old guys who then all suddenly 0:10:08.200 --> 0:10:10.240 retire and you have what Richmond had this year, where 0:10:10.280 --> 0:10:12.640 suddenly you've got nothing but young kids and they're going 0:10:12.679 --> 0:10:13.719 to be at the bottom of the ladder for a 0:10:13.760 --> 0:10:16.160 couple of seasons. So it's a really interesting way to 0:10:16.200 --> 0:10:16.640 approach it. 0:10:16.679 --> 0:10:17.520 But it's also. 0:10:19.120 --> 0:10:25.000 Slightly complicated, or veering from slightly complicated to just excessively overbearing. 0:10:25.240 --> 0:10:28.079 So it's certainly not something i'd probably advise people jump 0:10:28.160 --> 0:10:31.439 into straight away, but yeah, certainly a different fun way 0:10:31.480 --> 0:10:33.800 of talking about and we'll often mention, like you know, 0:10:34.480 --> 0:10:36.280 from time to time, we'd be like, oh, this guy 0:10:36.400 --> 0:10:38.960 is on the waivers. If you're in a keeper league, 0:10:39.000 --> 0:10:40.800 definitely grab him. If you're not in a keeper league, 0:10:40.840 --> 0:10:44.800 maybe consider him. But yeah, we'll definitely try and keep 0:10:44.840 --> 0:10:48.120 it just to the single season format for now. 0:10:48.760 --> 0:10:52.000 Yeah, it's a bit easy to talk about single season format, 0:10:52.040 --> 0:10:55.280 but I mean in terms of a keeper. Sometimes not always, 0:10:55.280 --> 0:10:58.720 but sometimes similar players are available on your wave of 0:10:58.760 --> 0:11:01.120 why that we might be talking about in season because 0:11:01.160 --> 0:11:03.280 you know, they've just had a ripping game in the 0:11:03.360 --> 0:11:05.840 VFL and they're coming up for some senior opportunities and 0:11:05.840 --> 0:11:08.320 they're still players that we want in both formats. So 0:11:08.600 --> 0:11:10.360 but yeah, keep that in mind. We will be talking 0:11:10.400 --> 0:11:14.440 single season on this podcast. Now, Lek Dog, I'll throw 0:11:14.520 --> 0:11:17.480 to you for this next segment. So we've basically got 0:11:17.520 --> 0:11:20.120 two I would separate the season into kind of two 0:11:20.160 --> 0:11:23.440 parts each season. In single season, you've got your draft 0:11:23.559 --> 0:11:25.959 day and everything leading up to draft day, and then 0:11:26.160 --> 0:11:30.560 in season. So we'll talk about leading up to draft day. First, 0:11:31.080 --> 0:11:33.000 what do we need to do leading up to draft 0:11:33.080 --> 0:11:35.320 day and heading into our draft to prepare the best 0:11:35.360 --> 0:11:35.720 we can. 0:11:36.720 --> 0:11:39.000 Well, the best advice I can give you is to 0:11:39.040 --> 0:11:41.559 go through all the players and make your own rankings 0:11:41.600 --> 0:11:45.160 for each position. Takes a lot of work, but at 0:11:45.240 --> 0:11:46.880 least when you go to the draft you'll have an 0:11:46.880 --> 0:11:50.480 informed opinion. Second best to that is going on Code 0:11:50.480 --> 0:11:53.800 Sports and taking my top one hundred or the collective 0:11:54.360 --> 0:11:57.240 top ranking position articles and using thembers in the base 0:11:57.760 --> 0:12:01.079 and then the main thing you want to know is injuries, 0:12:01.920 --> 0:12:04.160 who's coming back from surgery, who's missed a bit of 0:12:04.200 --> 0:12:08.120 the preseason, because that'll adjust their value. For instance, currently 0:12:08.240 --> 0:12:10.160 Nick Dakoss is fine, but he's had an issue with 0:12:10.200 --> 0:12:12.480 his foot. Instead of going number two in a draft, 0:12:12.520 --> 0:12:15.120 he might slip to ten. He's got to be aware 0:12:15.160 --> 0:12:19.760 of who's available. Mataste Philippoo highly pouted forward option, He's 0:12:19.760 --> 0:12:21.640 now going to miss a whole chunk of the season. 0:12:21.640 --> 0:12:23.840 If you're not across that you draft him early, you're 0:12:23.920 --> 0:12:27.520 kind of stuffed the season. So just being across the news, 0:12:27.600 --> 0:12:31.360 positional changes, injuries, all the same stuff you really would 0:12:31.880 --> 0:12:35.040 for Super Coach Classic, but you just want to keep 0:12:35.040 --> 0:12:39.160 an eye on the rankings and the general consensus ADP 0:12:39.320 --> 0:12:41.560 is another thing that's available to look at there. 0:12:42.480 --> 0:12:46.480 Yeah, those average draft positions, that's where people have been, 0:12:47.080 --> 0:12:50.440 where people are drafting certain players in the preseason. And 0:12:50.480 --> 0:12:53.440 you can do those mock drafts on Super Coach as well, 0:12:53.480 --> 0:12:56.320 so you can jump into draft. There's live drafts as 0:12:56.320 --> 0:12:59.280 far as I've seen on the mock draft, so you 0:12:59.320 --> 0:13:01.960 can go jump into a draft when people are keen. Obviously, 0:13:02.040 --> 0:13:04.000 you need enough people to jump in there, so I 0:13:04.080 --> 0:13:06.400 might need to wait until close to preseason when people 0:13:06.400 --> 0:13:08.920 are really getting into their drafts to jump in there, 0:13:09.240 --> 0:13:11.880 but go ahead and test it out and see where 0:13:11.920 --> 0:13:15.880 people are enjoying drafting players patch. I'll throw to you 0:13:15.920 --> 0:13:18.760 as well, what's your method of research in the preseason. 0:13:18.760 --> 0:13:20.800 I'm very similar to Leck. I definitely do my own 0:13:20.880 --> 0:13:23.920 ranks and we're going to be talking about our rankings 0:13:24.160 --> 0:13:26.840 in weeks coming up as well. We'll go through each 0:13:26.920 --> 0:13:30.120 position and then you can read further on those articles 0:13:30.160 --> 0:13:32.400 as mentioned by Lecdog and Code Sports. You can check 0:13:32.440 --> 0:13:35.720 the entire list, but we'll be discussing those I make 0:13:35.720 --> 0:13:37.880 my own little spreadsheets. I love looking at the old 0:13:37.960 --> 0:13:39.960 data and sort of just ranking them up and down. 0:13:40.360 --> 0:13:43.480 I think I tend to be able to do those 0:13:43.720 --> 0:13:46.480 lists and adjust. I really like to use projected averages, 0:13:46.559 --> 0:13:49.760 so you know, you can use fancy maths or however 0:13:49.800 --> 0:13:51.360 you want to do it. I tend to just sort 0:13:51.360 --> 0:13:54.280 of bit a gut feel bit of previous average and 0:13:54.320 --> 0:13:56.200 sort of say, okay, what do I actually think this 0:13:56.240 --> 0:13:59.560 guy is going to average for the coming season, and 0:13:59.559 --> 0:14:01.800 then I like to sort of order my rankings like 0:14:01.880 --> 0:14:05.040 that leading up to the draft. But patch, what's your 0:14:05.280 --> 0:14:08.560 method of whether it's rankings or just preparing for draft day. 0:14:08.920 --> 0:14:13.080 I'm a big vibes guy, big vibes guy, which like 0:14:13.200 --> 0:14:16.320 horrifies a lot of people. But you know, I'd obviously 0:14:16.360 --> 0:14:18.640 look a lot at Supercoach classics, so I've kind of 0:14:18.640 --> 0:14:20.880 got a general a pretty good handle on you know, 0:14:20.960 --> 0:14:22.720 who's going to be doing well and who's going to 0:14:22.760 --> 0:14:25.520 be doing well towards the point the end of the 0:14:25.560 --> 0:14:27.840 top of the draft, and then for the lower down 0:14:27.840 --> 0:14:30.120 of the draft, I'll often like go through and just 0:14:30.160 --> 0:14:32.040 look at names and I'm like, oh, I really like 0:14:32.520 --> 0:14:34.120 this guy. I really like this guy, and then make 0:14:34.160 --> 0:14:36.320 a list of guys who I think could. 0:14:36.200 --> 0:14:37.640 Be value and I don't want to forget about. 0:14:38.400 --> 0:14:41.120 And then you know, I'll compare that to the guys 0:14:41.160 --> 0:14:45.160 who are kind of the highest ADP sometimes where you know, 0:14:45.240 --> 0:14:47.040 if I don't have a big tier list in front 0:14:47.080 --> 0:14:49.600 of me, then I will look through and know as 0:14:50.000 --> 0:14:52.360 it comes up to my pick, and there's the you know, 0:14:52.400 --> 0:14:55.920 the next ten guys from the average draft position from 0:14:55.960 --> 0:14:58.400 the Supercoach website, and then I'll also have these list 0:14:58.440 --> 0:15:01.200 of names of someone like Kiddy Coleman who missed last 0:15:01.280 --> 0:15:04.240 year with injury you know, might not be as high up, 0:15:04.680 --> 0:15:07.400 or guys that I think might jump up who you 0:15:07.440 --> 0:15:09.720 know other people are overlooking. So I'll often look through 0:15:09.720 --> 0:15:14.560 those ADPs and find who I like ahead of time, 0:15:14.600 --> 0:15:18.480 and then you know, occasionally look higher up and go, well, 0:15:18.480 --> 0:15:20.720 I don't like this guy this season because I think 0:15:20.760 --> 0:15:22.440 you'll be trash or. 0:15:22.400 --> 0:15:22.920 Stuff like that. 0:15:22.920 --> 0:15:24.440 So that there is an easy way of doing it, 0:15:24.760 --> 0:15:26.760 I think than having a list of one hundred and 0:15:26.800 --> 0:15:29.360 fifty names of the one hundred and fifty best players 0:15:29.360 --> 0:15:31.480 and ranking all of them in order, I think there 0:15:31.600 --> 0:15:33.680 is a way round it where you don't have to 0:15:33.720 --> 0:15:35.760 do that because the ADP does a lot of that 0:15:35.840 --> 0:15:36.400 work for you. 0:15:36.720 --> 0:15:38.160 Does that make you a worse drafter? 0:15:38.440 --> 0:15:42.160 Possibly? But I have won flags while doing it somehow, so. 0:15:44.800 --> 0:15:45.040 Yeah. 0:15:45.240 --> 0:15:47.800 I think it depends on how seriously you're taking the leak, 0:15:47.880 --> 0:15:49.520 how much you really want to put into it. But 0:15:49.600 --> 0:15:52.840 also there is there's a case for vibes to be made, 0:15:52.960 --> 0:15:54.360 and I'm currently making it. 0:15:54.960 --> 0:16:01.520 It's it is a fair call, Ossie BOSSI where. 0:16:03.400 --> 0:16:04.920 I'm going to get invested. Watch out. 0:16:06.320 --> 0:16:08.480 My document I've open right now is called Player Rankings 0:16:08.520 --> 0:16:11.040 twenty twenty five. Vibes, So I'm very much in the 0:16:11.160 --> 0:16:14.520 vibe the area for the initial rankings, but I think 0:16:14.520 --> 0:16:16.720 you do need to consider. The other thing you want 0:16:16.760 --> 0:16:19.840 to consider heading into draft day is positional scarcity. So 0:16:20.520 --> 0:16:24.040 because it's you can't just cookie cut and copy everyone's team, 0:16:24.200 --> 0:16:27.320 positional scarcity will adjust how you value players. 0:16:27.360 --> 0:16:31.280 For instance, So what position? What is positional scarcity? So 0:16:31.480 --> 0:16:33.080 you've opened your big draft, you see a lot of 0:16:33.120 --> 0:16:35.360 midfielders at the top, but obviously you need to fill 0:16:35.400 --> 0:16:37.480 it with forwards. Can you talk us through what positional 0:16:37.520 --> 0:16:42.240 scarcity is why you might go draft a forward straight away? 0:16:42.720 --> 0:16:46.160 Yeah, for sure. So positional scarcity is basically there's not 0:16:46.200 --> 0:16:49.640 many good forwards. There's not that many good ruckman. There's 0:16:49.680 --> 0:16:51.760 lots of good mids, there's lots of good defenders. So 0:16:52.280 --> 0:16:55.800 you might select a lower scoring guy for the year, 0:16:55.960 --> 0:16:58.640 like Adjason Horn Francis as a forward. He's not going 0:16:58.720 --> 0:17:01.960 to score as much as probably as a guy who's 0:17:01.960 --> 0:17:03.760 scoring one hundred and ten in the midfield, but you 0:17:03.840 --> 0:17:05.479 may take him because you want to lock in the 0:17:05.520 --> 0:17:08.720 best forward available, so you might jump earlier. So just 0:17:08.760 --> 0:17:11.359 for instance, I also categorize all my players into tiers. 0:17:11.920 --> 0:17:14.879 So in each position. So I've got midfield tiers one 0:17:14.920 --> 0:17:17.439 to ten or one to twelve, whatever it is, forwards 0:17:17.440 --> 0:17:19.600 one to ten, blah blah blah. In my top fifty, 0:17:19.680 --> 0:17:22.160 I go all the way down to tier eight for midfielders, 0:17:22.280 --> 0:17:24.840 but I only go down to tier two for forwards, 0:17:24.880 --> 0:17:27.760 meaning there is a hell of a lot more midfielders 0:17:27.800 --> 0:17:29.880 available at the top end of the draft than there 0:17:29.920 --> 0:17:33.080 is forwards. So what that does is it pushes a 0:17:33.119 --> 0:17:35.920 guy like Max Gorn or Jason horn Francis or Tristan 0:17:36.000 --> 0:17:40.000 Cherry or Dylan Moore a lot higher in the draft 0:17:40.000 --> 0:17:44.480 compared to their averages when compared to the midfield is 0:17:44.480 --> 0:17:46.080 being taken around those same spots. 0:17:47.359 --> 0:17:49.800 Yeah, it makes sense, like if you miss that, if 0:17:49.840 --> 0:17:52.919 you miss a forward and it's sort of those you know, 0:17:53.160 --> 0:17:55.480 after the first couple of rounds, you really just end 0:17:55.560 --> 0:17:59.320 up your f one could just be Josh Tracy or something. 0:17:59.440 --> 0:18:02.040 I mean we were just looking at his ADP. I 0:18:02.080 --> 0:18:04.000 mean he had a great season last year, Josh Tracy 0:18:04.040 --> 0:18:07.080 from Fremantle. But you'll be looking at a player even 0:18:07.080 --> 0:18:09.520 worse than that dropping down if you sort of miss 0:18:09.560 --> 0:18:12.359 out on those top tier players. So I like to 0:18:12.840 --> 0:18:16.080 include that in my ranking as well. Now coming to 0:18:16.160 --> 0:18:20.440 draft day, guys, we've prepared ourselves with draft day. Unless 0:18:20.440 --> 0:18:22.399 there was anything else you guys want to think. 0:18:22.320 --> 0:18:24.639 The only thing would be you mentioned F one, which 0:18:24.800 --> 0:18:28.080 might not be familiar to people. Are you talking about 0:18:28.119 --> 0:18:29.720 he's going to drive the race car? Is that what 0:18:30.000 --> 0:18:30.680 Tracy's doing? 0:18:30.720 --> 0:18:31.440 What's an F. 0:18:31.440 --> 0:18:34.920 One doesn't for someone that hasn't looked at draft stuff before. 0:18:34.960 --> 0:18:37.600 And we'll obviously use that term. And you know D one, 0:18:37.680 --> 0:18:40.600 M one fairly interchangeably. What does that mean? 0:18:41.280 --> 0:18:44.080 Yeah, so that would be my number one forward, so 0:18:44.240 --> 0:18:47.160 sitting at my top, well, my top averaging forward. Yeah, 0:18:47.440 --> 0:18:49.919 it's a great point. Yeah we are. We are starting 0:18:49.920 --> 0:18:52.280 from scratch here on this one oh one podcast. So 0:18:52.600 --> 0:18:54.760 my F one would be my top forward, My M 0:18:54.760 --> 0:18:57.720 one would be my top mid D one, top defender 0:18:58.119 --> 0:19:01.720 R one. Generally you only have I'd say most unless 0:19:01.720 --> 0:19:04.000 you're a crazy league would have one ruck. I don't 0:19:04.000 --> 0:19:05.600