1 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:10,640 Speaker 1: Get everyone. Welcome to Drafted, the first episode of our 2 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: dedicated super Coach Draft show for season twenty twenty five. 3 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 1: We'll be dropping into the official super Coach podcast feed 4 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 1: with our positional draft rankings in the preseason, as well 5 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:24,959 Speaker 1: as some waver Wire content during the regular season. But 6 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 1: to start with, let's start with the basics. If you've 7 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:30,639 Speaker 1: ever thought about getting into Super Coach Draft but don't 8 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:33,480 Speaker 1: know where to start, this is it. We'll be going 9 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 1: through all the basics of super Coach Draft to get 10 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 1: you started and on your way. I'm Dossi. You may 11 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: have heard me on shows such as The Phantoms Lair, 12 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 1: The Draft Doctors, and podpot The Point of Difference podcast. 13 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:48,200 Speaker 1: Have played one form of draft or another for every 14 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:51,480 Speaker 1: year over a decade, have a few premierships under my belt, 15 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: but recently I'm much more well known for my ability 16 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: to be runner up unfortunately in the last few years. 17 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: Joining me, though, I have two favorites of the super 18 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 1: Coach community, both former members of the world famous Jock 19 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: Reynolds podcast, reuniting right here on Drafted. First off, very 20 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 1: familiar voice right here on this feed patch, I'll introduce 21 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: your special guest. 22 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 2: We've got as well. 23 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 3: Good a. 24 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 4: It's a delight to be here and a delight to 25 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 4: introduce the man who introduced me to drafting and drafts. 26 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:26,039 Speaker 4: It's leg Dog. 27 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 2: Thank you for having me, gentlemen. It's exciting to come 28 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 2: out of retirement. 29 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:33,320 Speaker 3: For the sixteenth time. 30 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 2: The sixteenth time. 31 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 4: Yes, the tattered copy of the Michael Jordan press release 32 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 4: of I'm Back is getting a bit bit torn and 33 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:42,680 Speaker 4: tatted and covered in stains. 34 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 2: Yep, But I'll drop it next year as well when 35 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 2: I retire later this year. It's going to be fantastic. 36 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 2: And I'm excited to talk about Super Coach Draft in 37 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 2: an official format. Bloody exciting. 38 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: It is exciting keen to talk draft this preseason. Yeah, 39 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: we haven't really done a lot of draft content on 40 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: the Super Coach podcast feed in the past. We know 41 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: that you yourself, Letdog, though, have written plenty of great 42 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: content over at Code Sports last year especially. You know 43 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: you were covering the waiver wires each week. You did 44 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: a lot of preseason stuff there. You've got plenty more 45 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 1: to come on the written front this preseason. But why 46 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:22,359 Speaker 1: don't we just start with the very very very basics. 47 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 1: What is Super Coach Draft? 48 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 2: Let Dog I've been put it simply, it's super coach, 49 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 2: but each player can only be picked once by one team, 50 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 2: so you can play with as many teams as you like. 51 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 2: Twelve to eighteen is generally the range you want to 52 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 2: work in. And yeah, you start with pick one, You 53 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 2: take the best player, and it goes on from there. 54 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 2: During the week, you know, after you've picked your team, 55 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 2: there's generally wave a wire pickups where you can put 56 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 2: in a bid on a player to pick up who's available, 57 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 2: who's a free agent. You put him into your team 58 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 2: if you think he's going to be good that week, 59 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 2: and then you hopefully beat your free Similarly to you, DOSSI, 60 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 2: I'm very much a runners up sort of man when 61 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 2: it comes to drafting. I'm very good at getting to 62 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:11,919 Speaker 2: a Grand Final. I'm very good at losing them to 63 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 2: Patch in particular. 64 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: Hello, Well, then Patch, you can talk about your love 65 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: for draft and what is it that you enjoy about 66 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 1: playing the different format. You know a lot of people 67 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: maybe listening, have just played the classic, but there is 68 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: the format. You just switch it over on the on 69 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 1: the app or on the website wherever you go, and 70 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: you just hit the draft button and you go over 71 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: to that screen. What makes you what made you fall 72 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 1: in love with draft? When let Dog introduced it to 73 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: us as you. 74 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 4: I mean, there are two big things that I fell 75 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 4: in love with. One was, you know, in classic, if 76 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 4: you're playing leagues yet to the end of the season 77 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 4: and so many people have the exact same team, everyone's 78 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 4: got very similar players. Everyone's got bond, your captained bond. 79 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 4: You know, everyone's got the same back line, the same forwards. 80 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 4: Even this year, looking at Classic, a lot of mid 81 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 4: prices are just going to be the same and everyone's 82 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 4: forward line. But in draft, none of that. You don't 83 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 4: get the chance to do it. Once Jack mccray's off 84 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 4: the board, no one else speaking Jack McCrae. You don't 85 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 4: have eighteen teams in a league full of Jack mccray's. 86 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 4: So that's really nice that you get that that point 87 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 4: of difference. Ever, because every player is a point of difference, 88 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 4: So that's really nice to have different players and by extension, 89 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 4: let other guys shine who you might never consider picking. 90 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 4: You know some players and yet they you know, like 91 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 4: an Alex Neilbullen is the perfect example where you know, 92 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 4: maybe this year people might look at him, but previously 93 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 4: is no one's ever touched him in classic, but he's 94 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 4: been a draft nugget that you could just pick up 95 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 4: and enjoy watching him, and it's been really nice. And 96 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 4: then the other side of it is Draft day itself 97 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 4: is just so much fun to get around your friends, 98 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 4: even getting around strangers. If you're doing it online, which 99 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:56,039 Speaker 4: I've done before as well, you're just going to drop 100 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 4: into a draft and pick, or you set it up 101 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 4: and you have of you know, a big barbecue with 102 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 4: smoked meats, and you hang out and talk some crap 103 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 4: for a little while, and then you sit down and 104 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 4: start picking, all in person, and it's great fun to 105 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 4: to grab someone just before someone else is going to 106 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 4: pick it, and you know, you pick Tom Green and 107 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 4: everyone cries out and I was going to pick him next. 108 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:21,119 Speaker 4: Is a wonderful feeling. We won't talk about the feeling 109 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 4: when somebody else grabs the player you were going to 110 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 4: pick next. But it's just it's just good fun. It's 111 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 4: just really nice. It's a different variation of the format. 112 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 4: And then I know it's just I just think it's neat, Dossie, 113 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 4: I just think it's neat. 114 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:37,599 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you. I've always loved the format. I 115 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 1: think I might have even played it before Classic, Like 116 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: my memory of draft just goes back that long. Yeah, 117 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 1: just just love playing it every year. Like you said, 118 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 1: draft days a great day on the calendar, especially if 119 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: you do it in person. There is just that special 120 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: special thing about getting together with your mates. I mean, 121 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: especially as you get a little older and it's harder 122 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:58,840 Speaker 1: to see people. It's really nice to catch up on that. 123 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 1: You know that one day the preseason. I suppose you 124 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: mentioned it a little bit earlier. Lekdog. In terms of 125 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 1: league settings, when people are sort of starting setting up 126 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:11,279 Speaker 1: this draft, because it is kind of how you want 127 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 1: to start. You pop up to a screen. You've got 128 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 1: to kind of make your league or join your league. 129 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: You've got to have that commissioner that's running it. What 130 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,919 Speaker 1: do you suggest if people are jumping into their first draft. 131 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: You mentioned a few different things about how many teams 132 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:27,239 Speaker 1: you want, etc. Let's hear what do you think people 133 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: should start with on those settings? 134 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 2: Well, if you're new to drafting, I guess the number 135 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 2: one thing is you want active teams. So I ran 136 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 2: a work league last year with people who'd never played 137 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:41,919 Speaker 2: Super Coach before. We only had I think six maybe 138 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 2: eight teams in and that was fun because they were 139 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 2: all active. So you want to make sure how many 140 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 2: teams you pick, you're actually gonna have coaches who are 141 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 2: participating and making weekly updates to the team. The other 142 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 2: thing is, if you're starting out, you probably don't want 143 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 2: to overcomplicate it and have you forty guys on your team. 144 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 2: To keep it's simple, you want to probably have four 145 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 2: or five defenders, four or five mids, a ruck, and 146 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 2: four or five forwards and then a couple of guys 147 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 2: on the bench. Just keep it really simple. That way, 148 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 2: the draft doesn't take all day. You still have the 149 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 2: same amount of fun. It means if you have a 150 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 2: smaller amount of teams or a small amount of players 151 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 2: required on your team, it means the wave of wise 152 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 2: going to be full of bargains and you're never going 153 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 2: to get too stuck with you no offense, but your 154 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 2: Thompson downs and whatnot. You're going to have opportunity to 155 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 2: pick up fun players. So keep it simple. Just how 156 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 2: many teams as you think coaches will be active, and 157 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 2: then yeah, play with the settings. But less is often 158 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 2: more when it comes to setting up your first couple of. 159 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 1: Drafts patch you had a similar experience with draft I 160 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: know that recently, I reckon the norm of how many 161 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 1: players on field has drastically reduced. I think maybe in 162 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: speaking to what you're saying, let dog people just want 163 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: to jump in, have a bit of fun, set the 164 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 1: lineups pretty quickly. I feel like nowadays sort of a 165 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: you know, the average players on field, when back when 166 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: I was really playing quite a lot in the early days, 167 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 1: it was like five defenders, seven mids, one ruck and 168 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: five forwards. That's pretty much the standard. Seven sorry, five 169 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 1: one seven, five was the typical format. But I think 170 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: nowadays it's sort of a bit shallower, but maybe a 171 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 1: bit easier to manage. 172 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh sorry, jumped in your patch. Yeah. I think 173 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 2: for me, like twenty two players is that nice area 174 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 2: unless you're going to go full fifty player bloody dynasty 175 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 2: rookie list leagues, which is a whole nother thing. But 176 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 2: that twenty two players for me as an experience player, 177 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 2: is that real prime area. But I think if you're 178 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 2: starting out sort of twelve to fifteen players, the other 179 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:47,559 Speaker 2: options you've gotten, they're probably a simpler way to get 180 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 2: into the draft format. 181 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 1: Absolutely, there is other formats of the game you just 182 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: mentioned now don't have patch. Are you a keeper league 183 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 1: officionado yourself? 184 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 4: I did keep leagues before I did regular drafts. 185 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: Well, okay, let's hear your recap. So there is the 186 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: single season draft is what we're mainly going to be 187 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: talking about on this show. And single season draft you 188 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:10,079 Speaker 1: draft a team at the start of the season. We'll 189 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: talk about how that happens in a second, but you 190 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: draft your team at the start of the season, much 191 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: like if you've played an NFL draft or anything like that. NBA, 192 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:19,959 Speaker 1: it's the same deal. You have your players for that season, 193 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,239 Speaker 1: and then at the end of the season you redraft 194 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 1: them again and it's a completely different team. But with 195 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: keeper leagues it's a little bit different. 196 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:26,199 Speaker 3: Patch. 197 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's for the people that want to play least 198 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 4: list manager just the whole way through, or people that 199 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 4: are just insane, which we all are in that. You know, 200 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:39,199 Speaker 4: you do your draft as Lack mentioned off, and you 201 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 4: can have up to I think like an I own 202 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 4: a league that had forty eight players in each list 203 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 4: at one point, which is a bit absurd, and then 204 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 4: from r TOE you keep all of those players and 205 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 4: you might de list three or five or eight, and 206 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 4: then you go to the National Draft, which is the 207 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 4: pool of every player that's just been drafted in November, 208 00:09:57,720 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 4: and then you pick from that, and it's simulating a 209 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 4: real list in that respect. You've got to make sure 210 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 4: you know you've got young players coming through and you 211 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 4: can't load up on old guys who then all suddenly 212 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 4: retire and you have what Richmond had this year, where 213 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 4: suddenly you've got nothing but young kids and they're going 214 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:13,719 Speaker 4: to be at the bottom of the ladder for a 215 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 4: couple of seasons. So it's a really interesting way to 216 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 4: approach it. 217 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 3: But it's also. 218 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 4: Slightly complicated, or veering from slightly complicated to just excessively overbearing. 219 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:28,079 Speaker 4: So it's certainly not something i'd probably advise people jump 220 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:31,439 Speaker 4: into straight away, but yeah, certainly a different fun way 221 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 4: of talking about and we'll often mention, like you know, 222 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 4: from time to time, we'd be like, oh, this guy 223 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 4: is on the waivers. If you're in a keeper league, 224 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 4: definitely grab him. If you're not in a keeper league, 225 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 4: maybe consider him. But yeah, we'll definitely try and keep 226 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 4: it just to the single season format for now. 227 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a bit easy to talk about single season format, 228 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: but I mean in terms of a keeper. Sometimes not always, 229 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 1: but sometimes similar players are available on your wave of 230 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 1: why that we might be talking about in season because 231 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 1: you know, they've just had a ripping game in the 232 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 1: VFL and they're coming up for some senior opportunities and 233 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 1: they're still players that we want in both formats. So 234 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 1: but yeah, keep that in mind. We will be talking 235 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 1: single season on this podcast. Now, Lek Dog, I'll throw 236 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 1: to you for this next segment. So we've basically got 237 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 1: two I would separate the season into kind of two 238 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 1: parts each season. In single season, you've got your draft 239 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:25,959 Speaker 1: day and everything leading up to draft day, and then 240 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 1: in season. So we'll talk about leading up to draft day. First, 241 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: what do we need to do leading up to draft 242 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 1: day and heading into our draft to prepare the best 243 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 1: we can. 244 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 2: Well, the best advice I can give you is to 245 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:41,559 Speaker 2: go through all the players and make your own rankings 246 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 2: for each position. Takes a lot of work, but at 247 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 2: least when you go to the draft you'll have an 248 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 2: informed opinion. Second best to that is going on Code 249 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 2: Sports and taking my top one hundred or the collective 250 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 2: top ranking position articles and using thembers in the base 251 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:01,079 Speaker 2: and then the main thing you want to know is injuries, 252 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 2: who's coming back from surgery, who's missed a bit of 253 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 2: the preseason, because that'll adjust their value. For instance, currently 254 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 2: Nick Dakoss is fine, but he's had an issue with 255 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 2: his foot. Instead of going number two in a draft, 256 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 2: he might slip to ten. He's got to be aware 257 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 2: of who's available. Mataste Philippoo highly pouted forward option, He's 258 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 2: now going to miss a whole chunk of the season. 259 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 2: If you're not across that you draft him early, you're 260 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 2: kind of stuffed the season. So just being across the news, 261 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 2: positional changes, injuries, all the same stuff you really would 262 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 2: for Super Coach Classic, but you just want to keep 263 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 2: an eye on the rankings and the general consensus ADP 264 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 2: is another thing that's available to look at there. 265 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, those average draft positions, that's where people have been, 266 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 1: where people are drafting certain players in the preseason. And 267 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 1: you can do those mock drafts on Super Coach as well, 268 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 1: so you can jump into draft. There's live drafts as 269 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: far as I've seen on the mock draft, so you 270 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 1: can go jump into a draft when people are keen. Obviously, 271 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: you need enough people to jump in there, so I 272 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 1: might need to wait until close to preseason when people 273 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 1: are really getting into their drafts to jump in there, 274 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 1: but go ahead and test it out and see where 275 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 1: people are enjoying drafting players patch. I'll throw to you 276 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: as well, what's your method of research in the preseason. 277 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 1: I'm very similar to Leck. I definitely do my own 278 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 1: ranks and we're going to be talking about our rankings 279 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 1: in weeks coming up as well. We'll go through each 280 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 1: position and then you can read further on those articles 281 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: as mentioned by Lecdog and Code Sports. You can check 282 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 1: the entire list, but we'll be discussing those I make 283 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 1: my own little spreadsheets. I love looking at the old 284 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 1: data and sort of just ranking them up and down. 285 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 1: I think I tend to be able to do those 286 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 1: lists and adjust. I really like to use projected averages, 287 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: so you know, you can use fancy maths or however 288 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: you want to do it. I tend to just sort 289 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 1: of bit a gut feel bit of previous average and 290 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 1: sort of say, okay, what do I actually think this 291 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 1: guy is going to average for the coming season, and 292 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 1: then I like to sort of order my rankings like 293 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: that leading up to the draft. But patch, what's your 294 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 1: method of whether it's rankings or just preparing for draft day. 295 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 4: I'm a big vibes guy, big vibes guy, which like 296 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 4: horrifies a lot of people. But you know, I'd obviously 297 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 4: look a lot at Supercoach classics, so I've kind of 298 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 4: got a general a pretty good handle on you know, 299 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 4: who's going to be doing well and who's going to 300 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 4: be doing well towards the point the end of the 301 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 4: top of the draft, and then for the lower down 302 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 4: of the draft, I'll often like go through and just 303 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 4: look at names and I'm like, oh, I really like 304 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 4: this guy. I really like this guy, and then make 305 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 4: a list of guys who I think could. 306 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 3: Be value and I don't want to forget about. 307 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 4: And then you know, I'll compare that to the guys 308 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 4: who are kind of the highest ADP sometimes where you know, 309 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 4: if I don't have a big tier list in front 310 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 4: of me, then I will look through and know as 311 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 4: it comes up to my pick, and there's the you know, 312 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 4: the next ten guys from the average draft position from 313 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 4: the Supercoach website, and then I'll also have these list 314 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 4: of names of someone like Kiddy Coleman who missed last 315 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 4: year with injury you know, might not be as high up, 316 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 4: or guys that I think might jump up who you 317 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 4: know other people are overlooking. So I'll often look through 318 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 4: those ADPs and find who I like ahead of time, 319 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 4: and then you know, occasionally look higher up and go, well, 320 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 4: I don't like this guy this season because I think 321 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 4: you'll be trash or. 322 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 3: Stuff like that. 323 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 4: So that there is an easy way of doing it, 324 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 4: I think than having a list of one hundred and 325 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 4: fifty names of the one hundred and fifty best players 326 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 4: and ranking all of them in order, I think there 327 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 4: is a way round it where you don't have to 328 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 4: do that because the ADP does a lot of that 329 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 4: work for you. 330 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 3: Does that make you a worse drafter? 331 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 4: Possibly? But I have won flags while doing it somehow, so. 332 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. 333 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 4: I think it depends on how seriously you're taking the leak, 334 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 4: how much you really want to put into it. But 335 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 4: also there is there's a case for vibes to be made, 336 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 4: and I'm currently making it. 337 00:15:54,960 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 2: It's it is a fair call, Ossie BOSSI where. 338 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 4: I'm going to get invested. Watch out. 339 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 2: My document I've open right now is called Player Rankings 340 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. Vibes, So I'm very much in the 341 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 2: vibe the area for the initial rankings, but I think 342 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 2: you do need to consider. The other thing you want 343 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 2: to consider heading into draft day is positional scarcity. So 344 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 2: because it's you can't just cookie cut and copy everyone's team, 345 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 2: positional scarcity will adjust how you value players. 346 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 4: For instance, So what position? What is positional scarcity? So 347 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 4: you've opened your big draft, you see a lot of 348 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 4: midfielders at the top, but obviously you need to fill 349 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 4: it with forwards. Can you talk us through what positional 350 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 4: scarcity is why you might go draft a forward straight away? 351 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. So positional scarcity is basically there's not 352 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 2: many good forwards. There's not that many good ruckman. There's 353 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 2: lots of good mids, there's lots of good defenders. So 354 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 2: you might select a lower scoring guy for the year, 355 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 2: like Adjason Horn Francis as a forward. He's not going 356 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 2: to score as much as probably as a guy who's 357 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 2: scoring one hundred and ten in the midfield, but you 358 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:05,479 Speaker 2: may take him because you want to lock in the 359 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 2: best forward available, so you might jump earlier. So just 360 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 2: for instance, I also categorize all my players into tiers. 361 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 2: So in each position. So I've got midfield tiers one 362 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:17,439 Speaker 2: to ten or one to twelve, whatever it is, forwards 363 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 2: one to ten, blah blah blah. In my top fifty, 364 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 2: I go all the way down to tier eight for midfielders, 365 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 2: but I only go down to tier two for forwards, 366 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 2: meaning there is a hell of a lot more midfielders 367 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:29,880 Speaker 2: available at the top end of the draft than there 368 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 2: is forwards. So what that does is it pushes a 369 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:35,920 Speaker 2: guy like Max Gorn or Jason horn Francis or Tristan 370 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 2: Cherry or Dylan Moore a lot higher in the draft 371 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 2: compared to their averages when compared to the midfield is 372 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 2: being taken around those same spots. 373 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, it makes sense, like if you miss that, if 374 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:52,919 Speaker 1: you miss a forward and it's sort of those you know, 375 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 1: after the first couple of rounds, you really just end 376 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 1: up your f one could just be Josh Tracy or something. 377 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 1: I mean we were just looking at his ADP. I 378 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: mean he had a great season last year, Josh Tracy 379 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 1: from Fremantle. But you'll be looking at a player even 380 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 1: worse than that dropping down if you sort of miss 381 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 1: out on those top tier players. So I like to 382 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 1: include that in my ranking as well. Now coming to 383 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 1: draft day, guys, we've prepared ourselves with draft day. Unless 384 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 1: there was anything else you guys want to think. 385 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 4: The only thing would be you mentioned F one, which 386 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 4: might not be familiar to people. Are you talking about 387 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 4: he's going to drive the race car? Is that what 388 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 4: Tracy's doing? 389 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 3: What's an F. 390 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:34,920 Speaker 4: One doesn't for someone that hasn't looked at draft stuff before. 391 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 4: And we'll obviously use that term. And you know D one, 392 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 4: M one fairly interchangeably. What does that mean? 393 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, so that would be my number one forward, so 394 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:47,160 Speaker 1: sitting at my top, well, my top averaging forward. Yeah, 395 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:49,919 Speaker 1: it's a great point. Yeah we are. We are starting 396 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 1: from scratch here on this one oh one podcast. So 397 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 1: my F one would be my top forward, My M 398 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 1: one would be my top mid D one, top defender 399 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 1: R one. Generally you only have I'd say most unless 400 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 1: you're a crazy league would have one ruck. I don't 401 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 1: think you want to be going two. 402 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 4: And then, also, as someone who's done it before, don't 403 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 4: do it. 404 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 2: There's only twelve good ruckman guys like, don't try and 405 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 2: carry two through a league. 406 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 1: And what are we calling flex is FL one. 407 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:20,880 Speaker 3: Just a flex factor? 408 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:23,400 Speaker 1: So you can. Actually, it's a new feature this year 409 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:25,919 Speaker 1: and it is available for draft. We have had some people, 410 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 1: you know, question ask on the socials if you can 411 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:32,440 Speaker 1: use flex in draft this year, So you absolutely can. 412 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: It is a feature that you can use in draft, 413 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 1: and I know Lefdog. It's a hotly debated topic in 414 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 1: your league at the moment whether to use flex. 415 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 2: It is and the reason unless you've got a gentleman's 416 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:47,119 Speaker 2: agreement over how it's going to be used for people 417 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 2: just starting draft, but I would encourage you probably not 418 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 2: to use it because essentially you're giving yourself another spot 419 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 2: to take a ruckman. And if you if you're drafting 420 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 2: at a certain point the you're able to take two 421 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:04,360 Speaker 2: really good ruckmen, it means that's a whole other team 422 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:06,640 Speaker 2: that's essentially not going to get a ruckman later they're 423 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:07,919 Speaker 2: not going to be able to make up the points 424 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 2: different So for starter leagues, I'd encourage you probably not 425 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 2: to do it, and for more experienced leagues, I'd probably 426 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 2: still encourage you not to do it. Dossie, I don't 427 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 2: want to get too lost to the weeds, but there 428 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 2: are some other features that have been outed this year. 429 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 2: You can now control how many players are scoring during 430 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 2: the buy rounds, so rather than in previous years I've 431 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 2: just skipped buy rounds, we can now reduce the amount 432 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 2: of on field scorers for buy rounds, so that'll be 433 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 2: easy to navigate. And also the waiver of y order 434 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 2: is now slightly different. We can talk about that in 435 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 2: a slightly more advanced option. But it's good to see 436 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 2: that there's some support for the Super Coach Draft platform. 437 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:49,199 Speaker 1: Absolutely, and just quickly. The flex position is that you 438 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:51,239 Speaker 1: can choose any position. I didn't mention that as well 439 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 1: if you haven't come across it. We've talked a lot 440 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 1: about flex though on the other podcast, so hopefully you've 441 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 1: seen that. But you can just pick any player from 442 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 1: any position in that flex spot. So yeah, as Lex mention, 443 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 1: you could have a couple of rucks unless you do 444 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:04,920 Speaker 1: a gentleman's agreement in the in the in the league 445 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 1: no rucks in that flex position. Maybe that would work 446 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 1: all right. So we have come up to our draft day. 447 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 1: Now this is the fun part and maybe we can 448 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 1: talk to if you guys have had any fun experiences 449 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 1: on draft day. But what is the best way to 450 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 1: go about Draft day? Patch in terms of you've got 451 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: to you know, there's a few things that have to happen. 452 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:27,160 Speaker 1: You've got to set your draft order. Who's taking pick one, 453 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: who's getting the last pick? Are you going to do 454 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,879 Speaker 1: a snake draft, which means when you get to the 455 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: last pick, the person that had the last pick gets 456 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 1: the first pick in the second round and then you 457 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 1: go on like that. So how do you go about 458 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 1: draft day? And you know, it's probably good to have 459 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 1: some of those things prep beforehand. 460 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 4: I think the most important thing about draft day is 461 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,439 Speaker 4: the food. And ironically, I think it's the food. If 462 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 4: you're going to, like have a big barbecue, like one 463 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 4: of the guys that we're in a league with every year, 464 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 4: those like fantastic smoked meats. I'm not joking, make a 465 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 4: day of it, you know, bring something to drink along 466 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 4: as well. You know, if you're that way inclined, it 467 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 4: makes it a much better day out and a better experience. 468 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 4: So don't neglect the now you're there for the draft, 469 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 4: you're there for the fantasy footy. Don't neglect the actual, 470 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 4: like the really good side of it, because. 471 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 3: That's really fun. 472 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 4: But you know, on your day, you know, I think 473 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:20,360 Speaker 4: you should always go with a snake draft. That way, 474 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 4: you know, it evens out. Otherwise, the person that has 475 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 4: picked one in a say a ten team league, has 476 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 4: pick eleven and pick you know, twenty one, and they've 477 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 4: just got an advantage. I think you need that snake 478 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 4: draft to make sure that you don't have an advantage 479 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 4: in terms of how you decide who has picked one 480 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,119 Speaker 4: and how you have pick ten. You can you know, 481 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 4: go wild. You can draw like draw out of a hat. 482 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 4: You can you know, I know leagues that will find 483 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 4: a race somewhere around the country that has the same 484 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 4: number of horses running as there are people in the league, 485 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 4: and then assign everyone a horse, and then that's the 486 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 4: pick you start with. You can do a foot race 487 00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:01,479 Speaker 4: down the street, you can do anything and anything. You know, 488 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 4: the positions from last year can then decide where you 489 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 4: go this year. You can have a bit of fun 490 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 4: with it to decide how you go about it, and 491 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 4: then you know, you all sit around, you all have 492 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 4: laptops and the supercoach page open. But I also think 493 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 4: it's very fun if you have a big shed of 494 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:20,439 Speaker 4: paper up on the wall, or lots of different sheets 495 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 4: of paper where you can write your player's name down 496 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 4: and stick them up so that everyone can see who 497 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 4: you've just taken and stolen from them. It makes a 498 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 4: bit more interactive, a bit more physical, a bit more fun. 499 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 3: Is how I know? 500 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 4: How like Ca and I often go about the draft 501 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 4: day we have together each year. 502 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 1: How about you, leck have you had any much fun 503 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 1: on draft Day? I know you mentioned before it's one 504 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,479 Speaker 1: of your favorite days. So how do you go about it? 505 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 1: And what's your tips for a successful draft day? 506 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 2: Look, I mean Patches nailed it. It's still in person. 507 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 2: If you can get as many people in the draft 508 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 2: as you can in person, and then you can collectively 509 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:00,399 Speaker 2: bully anyone who's not there in person and to make 510 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 2: their picks faster. I agree, good food, good drinks. I'm 511 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 2: supportive of sticky notes on a big board or a 512 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 2: big window to do your picks and then entering it 513 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:13,160 Speaker 2: in through the Supercoach app or website doing it off. 514 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:14,959 Speaker 2: Then you can do it off one computer rather than 515 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 2: everyone having a computer. But like it is, it is Christmas. 516 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:22,679 Speaker 2: It is Christmas, so I would encourage you to have 517 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 2: a prize for last years for the previous year's draft. 518 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:29,120 Speaker 2: We've got a trophy that gets engraved in another League. 519 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:33,160 Speaker 2: We've got some rings we give out award those make 520 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:37,239 Speaker 2: it a worthwhile event to come to giveaway prizes, just 521 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 2: like it's it is. And because I mean the people listening, 522 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 2: I don't know where the demographics are. The people on 523 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 2: this podcast are slowly getting older, so you do see 524 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 2: your friends less and less. So it's a great excuse 525 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 2: patch up. It's good. 526 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 4: Hey maybe slow and old, but I'm not What was 527 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 4: the third thing you said? 528 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, there's a few a few other fun ways 529 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,160 Speaker 1: to do draft. I know some good friend of mine 530 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 1: from the Draft Doctors, Stevie Fizz. He always does the 531 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 1: Royal Rumble and each person picks a picks a wrestler 532 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 1: and in the Royal Rumble, people get thrown out of 533 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 1: the ring. So I think, I don't know which way 534 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 1: it goes. I'm not a I'm not a wrestling fan, 535 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:17,880 Speaker 1: but as the wrestlers go down, you've got to pick. 536 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,640 Speaker 1: It's either when they come out, like what position they 537 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,199 Speaker 1: come into this into the ring, or when they get 538 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 1: thrown out. So yeah, that's that's a fun way. I 539 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 1: know some people do the same thing, but on whether 540 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 1: that's on PlayStation or something, people just play different games 541 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 1: like I often like if it's not like a physical challenge, 542 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:39,199 Speaker 1: because people have, you know, obviously different levels of physical 543 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,400 Speaker 1: challenges you get older, so as well. Yeah, I think 544 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,679 Speaker 1: those those are some great things to talk about for 545 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 1: draft day. Now, what are some strategies in the actual 546 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 1: draft itself? Just briefly, This season, probably you know, is 547 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 1: always different to the last. Sometimes you're looking to draft 548 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: defenders early if there's, as you said, positional scarcity in 549 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:03,400 Speaker 1: the defensive range or the forward range lec dog. How 550 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 1: are you approaching this draft in terms of just sort 551 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,199 Speaker 1: of who you want to draft in the early rounds 552 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:12,199 Speaker 1: positionally and sort of where your gut feel is at 553 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 1: the moment. 554 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:18,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think there's I mean, with the exception 555 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 2: of say a Max Corn and a Tristan Jerry Sherry 556 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 2: Jerry Sherry, Cherry Cherry, I think you're pretty much taking 557 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 2: mids with your first pick. If you're at the back 558 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,640 Speaker 2: end of a first round, I'm talking like an eighteen 559 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 2: team first round, you might look to a Jason Horn 560 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 2: Francis or a Luke Ryan type or Harry Sheezel. I 561 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 2: think initially it's the mids that I'm targeting early because 562 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 2: you want to Basically, you just want to maximize how 563 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 2: many points your team is going to score. I know 564 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 2: that sounds really obvious, and they're going to score the 565 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 2: most in the rock line and the midfield, and then 566 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 2: the defense and then the ford. So you generally I 567 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 2: either punt forwards or punt rucks when it draft day, 568 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 2: and punting means I'm basically just going to ignore them 569 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 2: and take what'sever left. Towards the end, my focus is 570 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 2: going to be about building points on field, in defense 571 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 2: and in the midfield. This year's slightly frin I think 572 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 2: we've got enough decent rock options that you can take 573 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,400 Speaker 2: one in the middle of your draft. So but as 574 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,479 Speaker 2: per usual, I will be punting forwards, and because I 575 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,199 Speaker 2: know that no one's going to pick Lincoln McCarthy, and 576 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,119 Speaker 2: I know that Lincoln McCarthy's going to be like a 577 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 2: top fifteen total points forward for the year, So you 578 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 2: can punt forwards. Trust me. If you get Jason North Francis, 579 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 2: that's very nice. If you get Bailey Smith or Jack McCrae, 580 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 2: that's also nice. But if you're not getting them, don't 581 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 2: worry about it. Just get midfielders. 582 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's sort of like you look at your team, 583 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 1: and your team might be very very light on forwards 584 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 1: if you are punting that position. But it's just the 585 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 1: temptation just you can't if you're punting, You've got to 586 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:54,639 Speaker 1: punt it, like you can't just go okay, ah, no, 587 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 1: I've got no one I better take. I hope don't 588 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 1: want to rag on Josh Tracy again because he's well, 589 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 1: he could be the whipping Look, look, I don't want 590 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 1: to take I don't know alex Neil Bullen this early 591 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:08,119 Speaker 1: because say he averages eighty four, you're picking him in 592 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 1: those mid rounds and you're like, okay, I really want 593 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:11,440 Speaker 1: to forward. I'm going to pick him. He should be 594 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 1: a really good forward. But you might be able to 595 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 1: pick someone that's going to average, you know, five four 596 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 1: points less, and you're getting him several rounds later, and 597 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 1: in making that position, you're just you're going to get 598 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 1: instead in that spot, you'll get a midfield of the 599 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 1: average one hundred and five instead of waiting and missing 600 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:28,479 Speaker 1: and then they drop another ten or fifteen. So you're 601 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:32,400 Speaker 1: probably sacrificing points in those that midfield position or those 602 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:36,119 Speaker 1: stronger scoring lines rather than afford But that is a 603 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 1: bit more of an advanced I suppose draft discussion for 604 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 1: what we're talking about today, Patch, Do you have any 605 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 1: sort of just general thoughts about this season, whether that's 606 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 1: you know, who you're looking at drafting early, or just 607 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 1: the way that the landscape is this season for Super 608 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 1: Coach Draft. 609 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 4: I'm kind of intrigued by the forward line this year, 610 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 4: and then I think there is a lot of value there, 611 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 4: but I think there's every chance that there's just a 612 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 4: run that will just start on the forwards and then 613 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 4: it'll just be over and then that's when you bail. 614 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 4: And when I say run, often it generally happens with 615 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 4: the rucks where everyone's been taking midfielders. Everyone is very 616 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 4: happy taking midfielders, and then somebody takes a ruck and 617 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 4: Maxicorn's off the table, for example, and then everyone kind 618 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 4: of looks around the room and just goes, oh, oh, well, 619 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 4: I guess we're doing rucks now, And then Cherry will go, 620 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 4: and then Marshall will go, and then you know, like 621 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 4: Brody Grundy will go, and suddenly everyone's going other and 622 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 4: not many good rucks left. 623 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 3: Oh, we should all get a ruck now. 624 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 4: While like they're going hot, everyone dive in and I 625 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 4: think try like sticking to a plan and avoiding the 626 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 4: the you know, the the peer pressure and the game 627 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 4: theory of it is very important when you see people 628 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 4: making a mad dash for the back line as defenders 629 00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 4: start going and you know you've got you know, say, 630 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 4: for defenders you're happy with you don't you go, oh, well, 631 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 4: I'm just going to go off elsewhere and while everyone 632 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 4: is busy, you know, having a riot in the back line, 633 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 4: I'm just going to pick off a few forwards or 634 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 4: pick off a few mids that are still sitting there, 635 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 4: like don't be afraid to run against the crowd in 636 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 4: in a lot of those situations that said, I'm as 637 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 4: guilty as anyone of seeing rucks start going and panicking 638 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 4: and then picking, you know, picking Raley O'Brien towards the 639 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 4: end of a run and going, I'm deeply dissatisfied with 640 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 4: this selection. What have I done to myself yet again? 641 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 4: And then you know, yeah, yeah, you just you d 642 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 4: kind of got to play the meta game between the 643 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 4: people you're drafting as well, which is why it's so 644 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 4: fun to do it in person, and that it's easy 645 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 4: to hurl abuse at people. 646 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then there's those sneaky coaches that draft two rucks, 647 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 1: yeah and just bank on one and put them on 648 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 1: the bench so that somebody else can't who is punting 649 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 1: rucks later can't get that sneaky position. 650 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 2: Like I was just going to say that, well, yes, 651 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 2: that is a tactic you can do. But I think 652 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 2: going into a draft having an idea of whether you're 653 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 2: going to go sort of upside breakout players or you're 654 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 2: going to go the tried and trued players, because while 655 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 2: you disparaged Riley O'Brien their patch, you give you ninety 656 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 2: points every single week, and that's actually really good. In draft, 657 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 2: I tend to fall into the favor of the tried 658 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 2: and true guys, where I'm like, I know what the 659 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 2: floor is. I'm going to back in the veterans over 660 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 2: the young guys, and that generally shows in my ranks. 661 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 2: So just kind of having an idea of where you 662 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 2: personally sit I sit in I have to have seen 663 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 2: it to believe it, rather than going early on I 664 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 2: don't know who's a breakout contender this year that everyone's 665 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 2: jumping on. 666 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 1: I just want to we'll get some final thoughts at 667 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 1: the end as well from you guys, But I think 668 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 1: we've touched on all the sort of major basics of draft. 669 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 1: We do recommend jump in there, make your team, and 670 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 1: start organizing early, because you know you've still got plenty 671 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 1: of time before round one the game starts, so i'd 672 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 1: start organizing yourselves nice and early. But I think one 673 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 1: tip at the end here for a successful league. We've 674 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 1: talked about a lot of tips in different areas of 675 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 1: the game, but just one final tip heading into draft season. 676 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 1: I'll start with mine because I think this is a 677 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 1: really important one when you are beginning to think about draft, 678 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 1: and that is to have an organized and very die hard, 679 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 1: keen commissioner. I think it's really important to have someone 680 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 1: that's really the most passionate. So if you're listening to 681 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 1: this podcast, you're probably the one putting your hand up. 682 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 1: I think if you've listened to this, you need to 683 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 1: be the commissioner, get your mates organized, figure out the 684 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 1: settings you want, and somebody needs to kind of take control. 685 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 1: And that's the only way that really these things, you know, 686 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 1: come to fruition. You have to have a commissioner that 687 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 1: sets it up, that gets ever on the league codes, 688 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 1: invites everyone and gets it started, so that would be 689 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 1: my suggestion. There is ways to do it. If you 690 00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 1: don't have a core crew of friends that are super 691 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 1: into super you know, you can go into forums, you 692 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 1: can go to Twitter, you can go all over the 693 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,480 Speaker 1: internet to find mates that will play super coach. And 694 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 1: I know some people that you know in our super 695 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 1: Coach community that have made you know lifelong friends from 696 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 1: these these interactions online. Solek, I'll pass over to you, 697 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 1: but yeah, that was my tip. Have a super keen 698 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 1: commission and you'll have a great time in your league. 699 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 2: Have a group chat, whether it's wiped up or Facebook 700 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 2: or a text thread. I found email threads don't work 701 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 2: as well. That way, everyone's engaged, you can talk about 702 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 2: the league. The worst thing of it that can happen 703 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 2: in a draft league is after a few weeks, everyone 704 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 2: just kind of dips off and gets sort of not interested. 705 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 2: Got a group chat, you can meme it up. You 706 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 2: can communicate core information, and a little thing that I 707 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 2: do in quite a few of my leagues, we do 708 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 2: like a weekly wrap up where someone writes a sentence 709 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 2: about each team or does a power rankor and whatever, 710 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 2: and like it takes five minutes to do, but everyone 711 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 2: waits all week just to see where are they going 712 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 2: to sit in the power rankings or what the comment 713 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 2: is about their team. So have fun with it, but 714 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 2: have a group chat, keep that, keep that engagement high. 715 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 1: Love it patch your tip for a successful league. 716 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 3: Have fun. 717 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:19,319 Speaker 4: Like it sounds cheesy and silly and dumb, but like, 718 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,840 Speaker 4: if you're not enjoying it, what you would like? You know, 719 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 4: what what are you doing? Like make it fun as 720 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,240 Speaker 4: like you spoke about, you know, have that that banter 721 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:31,440 Speaker 4: between people in the league. Make sure you're still in 722 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 4: contact and talking about the league, you know, here and there. 723 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,919 Speaker 4: Otherwise you know, it kind of withers on the vine 724 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,719 Speaker 4: and dies a little bit. So you know, make sure 725 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 4: it's not seen as a chore every week, like go 726 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 4: through wave wire and enjoy it. But yeah, I think 727 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 4: it's between that and make sure you know you've got 728 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:50,879 Speaker 4: a good draft day because that's the thing that will 729 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 4: keep people coming back. Otherwise it kind of gets very 730 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,399 Speaker 4: easy to get to February and go, oh, we should 731 00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,919 Speaker 4: organize that draft again. I guess, like, what are we doing? 732 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 4: We'll just do it online. It's too hard. Try and 733 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 4: make it fun, making an event because it is it's like, 734 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,799 Speaker 4: I think it's the best way to play Super Coach 735 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,880 Speaker 4: because it's just, you know, every team is different. You 736 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 4: get that experience of going through and picking guys who 737 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 4: you'd never look at in the fantasy format, and everyone's 738 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:20,320 Speaker 4: you know, everyone just gets to have a good time, 739 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,280 Speaker 4: and why can't we just all have fun? 740 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,359 Speaker 2: I think on that patch one of the great things 741 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,560 Speaker 2: about draft is seeing those players that you're not used to. 742 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,360 Speaker 2: So everyone who played draft over the last two years 743 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 2: isn't surprised James Petling's a good football player. So for 744 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 2: Super Coach Classic, I guess everyone gets the same information. 745 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,240 Speaker 2: You're sort of almost a step ahead because you're aware 746 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 2: of who's scoring well even though they're not a big name. 747 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,239 Speaker 3: So you get to feel smug about it. 748 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:48,880 Speaker 2: You do get to feel smug about it. 749 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, you do tend to keep track of those state 750 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,359 Speaker 1: leagues a bit more, which is a big part of 751 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 1: what we'll be talking about in season. We'll keep track 752 00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,240 Speaker 1: of some Wave WI picks. We'll talk more about trading 753 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 1: as well, and set a bit like you know, the 754 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,200 Speaker 1: big key as well. My final tip is a second 755 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,359 Speaker 1: one here is like you don't win the league at 756 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,239 Speaker 1: the draft as much as we love our draft, we 757 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 1: love doing our rankings, we love picking all those players 758 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 1: on draft day, You're not going to win your full 759 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:16,960 Speaker 1: league on draft generally speaking, because there's a lot it's 760 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,719 Speaker 1: a long seasons. Patch does, but I do. Generally speaking. 761 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,680 Speaker 1: People get injured, things change, roles change, You might have 762 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:26,799 Speaker 1: missed a pick or two, you might have stuffed some up, 763 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,839 Speaker 1: somebody might have traded out. Like things can change, and 764 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:32,360 Speaker 1: to be able to stay on top of that is 765 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,560 Speaker 1: what draft's all about as well. So whether you're willing 766 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,399 Speaker 1: and deal and trading to get someone in to fix 767 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,839 Speaker 1: your team up, whether you're picking up a gem off 768 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,279 Speaker 1: the wave ye there is. So you know, some of 769 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:42,879 Speaker 1: the names off the Wave of Wye in the last 770 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 1: few years have just been incredible players that start not 771 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,360 Speaker 1: in the team or start just not being drafted, and 772 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 1: all of a sudden the super coach guns so. 773 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 4: Laws and Humphreys wave a way, goat. Did we talk 774 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,480 Speaker 4: about what the Wave way actually physically is? 775 00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:56,840 Speaker 1: Go ahead? Patch? 776 00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 4: So basically, you know, you finish your draft. Everyone has 777 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,840 Speaker 4: the perfect team, the best team that's ever been assembled. 778 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 4: No team will ever be better than that. Then a 779 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,840 Speaker 4: guy gets injured and you've like, you're like, oh, I 780 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,200 Speaker 4: you know, he's out for the season, he's done his knee. 781 00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:11,960 Speaker 3: What do I do? 782 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 4: And then you go to the pile of all the 783 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 4: players that have been left over, and that's the wave 784 00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:19,280 Speaker 4: of wire and basically you'll you'll go in and you'll say, hello, 785 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,800 Speaker 4: I would like to pick up Laws and Humphreyes please, 786 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,839 Speaker 4: I'd like him in my team, and then you know 787 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:26,680 Speaker 4: that'll put in a bid, and then everyone else can 788 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,160 Speaker 4: put in bids and it kind of decides, you know, 789 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:32,440 Speaker 4: based on ladder order, who will get the first picks. 790 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:35,000 Speaker 4: And then you all kind of you know, can pick 791 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:38,719 Speaker 4: off the steaming heap that is what's left of all 792 00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:42,040 Speaker 4: the players to find those little nuggets of gold. So 793 00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,640 Speaker 4: there'll be plenty of players, especially the smaller your league is, 794 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:46,840 Speaker 4: the more players are left over. And so when the 795 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,920 Speaker 4: pool that you can pick from, and you know, rifling 796 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,400 Speaker 4: through there to pick up someone very good is a 797 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:53,160 Speaker 4: great feeling. 798 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, And you can set your waivers settings as well 799 00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,719 Speaker 1: to last you know, if people can't get a chance 800 00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,319 Speaker 1: to check their you know, teams until a little bit 801 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,320 Speaker 1: later in the week, you can set those waivers settings 802 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:06,120 Speaker 1: so that they'd last long, longer, or shorter, depending on 803 00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:08,359 Speaker 1: how you know how much interest is in your league, 804 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:10,279 Speaker 1: or when people can check their phones if they're in 805 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,480 Speaker 1: different time zones or whatever that may be. So that's 806 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,239 Speaker 1: also nice feature because once the waiver period is over, 807 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,239 Speaker 1: you can just pick up players willing nearly off the 808 00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:22,319 Speaker 1: free agency pool. But those waivers are basically like you're 809 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,759 Speaker 1: bidding to pick up this place, so they're clearly going 810 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,160 Speaker 1: to be If you're using one of those waivers, you'll 811 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,920 Speaker 1: then go shuffle from the top on the waiverpool to 812 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:31,719 Speaker 1: the bottom. So you've got to make sure I'm going 813 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,680 Speaker 1: to spend this waiver kind of wisely. So I know 814 00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,799 Speaker 1: people that just tend to wait, hold it out and 815 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:39,960 Speaker 1: hold that waiver until they find a really good pick, 816 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:41,560 Speaker 1: which is what I tend to do and hit the 817 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:45,080 Speaker 1: fregency pool. But anyway, great tip to finish off, we 818 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,480 Speaker 1: will be talking waver Wire in season, but next up 819 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,960 Speaker 1: we're going to be talking out rankings. Thanks very much 820 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,880 Speaker 1: for joining us Lekdog and Patch on the first episode 821 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:59,840 Speaker 1: of Drafted. We will be back, I believe next week 822 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:03,279 Speaker 1: for some rankings our beginning of ranking season, so it 823 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:04,359 Speaker 1: will see you then. 824 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:10,319 Speaker 4: H m hm