WEBVTT - A Sad, Pre-Surgery Sit Down With Bec (Part 3) 

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, and welcome back to the Maspuny Podcast and part

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<v Speaker 1>three of this little investigation series here in Bali. In

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<v Speaker 1>this episode, you're gonna hear me sit down we Beck

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<v Speaker 1>prior to her undergoing this rib recontouring procedure. You will

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<v Speaker 1>hear me repeatedly ask her just why are you doing this?

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<v Speaker 1>And you'll also hear me midway through. I suppose have

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<v Speaker 1>this continual internal battle of like being yes, I am

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<v Speaker 1>here in this country to document this trip and what

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<v Speaker 1>is happening, whilst yes, sharing my opinion on it all,

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<v Speaker 1>but also as I sat with Beck, I just realized

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<v Speaker 1>more than ever I am also someone here in this

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<v Speaker 1>country amongst this who just doesn't want her to.

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<v Speaker 2>Get this done. Hi, Beck, Hi, Josh, back on the podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>Back on the pod.

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<v Speaker 1>Baby, Now I must point out tomorrow is your surgery.

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<v Speaker 1>You You've arrived with a vape and a glass of wine,

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<v Speaker 1>two things that are not really permitted pre surgery.

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<v Speaker 3>Hello, this is half veno half soda water. It's just one.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not really doing the rumors very well that you

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<v Speaker 1>may have an issue.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm on holiday, I have an issue?

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<v Speaker 2>Off?

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<v Speaker 3>Fuck off?

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<v Speaker 2>Is this a holiday?

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely? You're joking.

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<v Speaker 4>Seven days in one of the best hotels in the

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<v Speaker 4>world and free cosmetic surgery.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a holiday for me.

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<v Speaker 1>I suppose we've had a lot of backlash or yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Usually i'd say you, but I've been dragged into it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's fair.

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<v Speaker 1>I knew documenting this would be controversial. You're doing a job, though, Josh, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm a journalist and Cole take opinions. But

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<v Speaker 1>for me, like the thing that's different now to when

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<v Speaker 1>I used to do surgery stuff for the magazines years

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<v Speaker 1>ago is when you're a journalist, you can't really have

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<v Speaker 1>an opinion or a voice. You just write, whereas now

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<v Speaker 1>is like a creator. You know, I've said to you

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<v Speaker 1>about twenty times in the last twenty four hours, why

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<v Speaker 1>are you doing this?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, you have and every opportunity you get.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I'm still letting you come back out if

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<v Speaker 2>you want.

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<v Speaker 3>Not backing out, no, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Think, well tell me why are you here to have

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<v Speaker 1>your ribs recontored?

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<v Speaker 4>Get contouring of the ribs, So first and foremost we're

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<v Speaker 4>not getting ribs removed, that's not a thing. They're contoured.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's essentially vis and VISI line for your ribs.

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<v Speaker 4>So people get their teeth done. Anyone that wants to

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<v Speaker 4>do my teeth, I'm in the running for that two place.

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<v Speaker 4>Every hook me up. You know, we've all talked about

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<v Speaker 4>the weight I've lost and whatnot, and you know, I

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<v Speaker 4>I'm happy to do anything like this will be my

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<v Speaker 4>third cosmetic procedure and this won't be my last.

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<v Speaker 1>So but did you actually want these things? Are you're

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<v Speaker 1>just doing it for the sake of it?

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<v Speaker 4>No?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, look, I didn't think about it.

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<v Speaker 4>I've always looked at my body and thought, okay, so

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<v Speaker 4>I've got I'm a part of the itty bitty titty committee, right.

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<v Speaker 4>I have tiny boobs, they're not really any boobs, right,

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<v Speaker 4>and I don't have a bum. And so when I

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<v Speaker 4>look at myself in the mirror, I've got a little

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<v Speaker 4>bit of a shit shape. But I will eventually get

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<v Speaker 4>my boobs done. But I don't want massive kahunas, right,

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<v Speaker 4>But in order to get that sort of hour glass

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<v Speaker 4>looking figure, you would need to have your bum done

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<v Speaker 4>and your boobs done massive to have this.

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<v Speaker 3>This figure right. And so when it when when it

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<v Speaker 3>came to me.

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<v Speaker 4>I consulted a number of people, doctors and whatnot, and said,

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<v Speaker 4>is this is this feasible. All it works, It is safe, yep.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know, I had some serious discussions with people

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<v Speaker 4>and they were like, look, it's it's not invasive. It's

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<v Speaker 4>a bloodless it's a bloodless procedure and it works. And

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<v Speaker 4>so I thought about it and I thought.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I want this done as much as I sat

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<v Speaker 1>there with back listening and thinking like, sure, everything you're

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<v Speaker 1>saying is valid. And again, it is your body, and

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<v Speaker 1>in all of our own heads we have these visions,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, of how we would love to look if

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<v Speaker 1>we could. But but just as we continue to chat,

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<v Speaker 1>I question her more and more like, is that the

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<v Speaker 1>sole reason you're doing this? Or is this just partly

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<v Speaker 1>because of the virality. You know, it's going to bring

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<v Speaker 1>the controversy and the dopamine hit you're going to get

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<v Speaker 1>from that. But I feel you no offense. Maybe do

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<v Speaker 1>things for the plot because last time we spoke, you

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<v Speaker 1>had fallen in love with it hadn't fallen in You

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<v Speaker 1>were falling in love with a male Lescot And we

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<v Speaker 1>did a whole chat where you were questioning could you

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<v Speaker 1>pursue a relationship with a man whose job is having

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<v Speaker 1>sex with of a women? And you were genuinely like

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<v Speaker 1>you thought you could because you like this man so much.

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<v Speaker 1>And that was maybe seven weeks ago. You've not You've

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<v Speaker 1>not mentioned this guy once in what two days in Ballet.

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<v Speaker 4>I haven't mentioned him once in in Bali yet, So

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<v Speaker 4>that's over.

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<v Speaker 3>Firstly, I've never said I was falling in love with

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<v Speaker 3>an escort.

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<v Speaker 2>You should strong feelings, do you know.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think I did.

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<v Speaker 4>Look, he's a beautiful human. He's just not my human.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's just where it is at. But still respect

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<v Speaker 4>for anyone in the sex industry.

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<v Speaker 2>But do you remember when we did that chat in

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<v Speaker 2>my house?

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, and I was like, this is not what I

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<v Speaker 1>thought our follow up chat with the escort, and then

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<v Speaker 1>I said, maybe six seven weeks, I want to do

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<v Speaker 1>another follow off of How I Am. Never did I

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<v Speaker 1>think would be in Balibo getting your rips.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you know what? Yeah, I probably do do things

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<v Speaker 3>with a plot.

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<v Speaker 4>I speaking to my manager the other day and she

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<v Speaker 4>was like, oh, Beck, I'm really nervous for you, And

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<v Speaker 4>I said to her, but Babe, like, I don't care

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<v Speaker 4>what anyone thinks, right, I live my life doing what

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<v Speaker 4>I want to do when I want to do it,

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<v Speaker 4>And hatter is it going to hate?

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<v Speaker 1>As Beck and I continued chatting, we kept circling back

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<v Speaker 1>to this point of self love, which to her at

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<v Speaker 1>least is the reason she's here doing this. But to

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<v Speaker 1>me and I suppose so many other people on the

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<v Speaker 1>outside at least, it feels it's perhaps more something she's

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<v Speaker 1>doing in the hope it will finally bring her the

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<v Speaker 1>self love she's always been searching for, especially after losing

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<v Speaker 1>thirty kilos in like the last three years, I think,

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<v Speaker 1>and still not being happy when she looks in the mirror,

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<v Speaker 1>while now endlessly being criticized by millions of people online daily.

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<v Speaker 4>Let me give you an example, right, Okay, So I'm

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<v Speaker 4>going to do some body contouring that's going to make

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<v Speaker 4>me feel better. I've got a lot of loose skin.

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<v Speaker 4>This is the most vulnerable I'm ever going to be,

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<v Speaker 4>because when I have my surgery done, I've said to you,

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<v Speaker 4>if we're going to do this, I want, I want,

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<v Speaker 4>I want people to see all of me.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>I've got loose skin, and I'm insecure about it, right

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<v Speaker 4>I am, I just am. I'm proud of myself for

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<v Speaker 4>where I've gotten to, but there's parts of me that

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<v Speaker 4>I that I can't stand sometimes looking in the mirror.

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<v Speaker 3>But but.

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<v Speaker 4>I am doing something that I am excited about for myself,

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<v Speaker 4>and I am going to always do.

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<v Speaker 3>This isn't to be my last cosmetic precadure. Put it

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<v Speaker 3>that way.

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<v Speaker 4>Your body, your choice, what you feel confident with, in

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<v Speaker 4>what you feel comfortable with, fucking do it. So why

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<v Speaker 4>are all these Karens coming at me? Let me get

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<v Speaker 4>my ribs done.

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<v Speaker 1>The thing I find sad here is just the two

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<v Speaker 1>extremes that Beck constantly sits between and I suppose lives between.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, for months now, since appearing the Maths,

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<v Speaker 1>there has been tens of thousands of comments, if not

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<v Speaker 1>more hundreds of thousands of comments of people picking apart

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<v Speaker 1>every part of Beck's appearance, and you know, they'll write

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<v Speaker 1>things like she should get this done, she should change that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's horrible, like all these very vicious comments, and a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people write them thinking Beck will never read them,

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<v Speaker 1>But she does read them, any posts about her, any

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<v Speaker 1>news posts she's on there, she's in the comments, and

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<v Speaker 1>she's seeing all these messages. And then after you know,

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<v Speaker 1>she's announced via this series, will Hey, I'm now in

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<v Speaker 1>Bali and I'm about to change something. Now it's the opposite,

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<v Speaker 1>and these thousands of comments from people going this is stupid,

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<v Speaker 1>this is extreme, this is potentially dangerous. Why are you

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<v Speaker 1>doing this? Why can't you love who you are? And

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<v Speaker 1>then when you have someone like Beck in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of all that, who, let's be honest, is insecure and

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<v Speaker 1>has spent much of a life battling with her body image.

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<v Speaker 1>When like an offer for a trip like this and

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<v Speaker 1>a new procedure here in Balley pops up, I can

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<v Speaker 1>see why she, like back, someone like Beck would jump

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<v Speaker 1>at that chance to just change one thing, which again is.

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<v Speaker 2>Just quite sad.

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<v Speaker 1>There's this thing where overall people are saying, why are

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<v Speaker 1>you doing this rip thing? It's stupid. But then you've

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<v Speaker 1>got thousands of people saying, but you should do this instead,

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<v Speaker 1>and do it, and it's like get.

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<v Speaker 4>Your teeth done, get your mouth done, get your jaw done,

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<v Speaker 4>get your skin done, get you this done, get your

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<v Speaker 4>nose done. Like trust me, if I could, I would, nah,

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<v Speaker 4>please don't.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, get a brain trance plant. It's like a fuck off, Jeremy.

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<v Speaker 4>What the way I'm what I'm working my like, what

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<v Speaker 4>I'm working myself off of is this is my body,

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<v Speaker 4>and this is my choice, and I'm choosing to share

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<v Speaker 4>it with people because I'm sure that there's some people

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<v Speaker 4>out there.

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<v Speaker 2>Like.

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<v Speaker 4>To be honest with you, the amount of private messages

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<v Speaker 4>that I've had from people saying, oh my god, I

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<v Speaker 4>didn't realize I could get this done, where are you

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<v Speaker 4>getting it done?

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<v Speaker 3>And what is it?

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<v Speaker 4>Right, you would be surprised, I'd probably say in the

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<v Speaker 4>hundreds right of people being like, Wow, I actually want this.

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<v Speaker 1>This is what worries me in a weird way because

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<v Speaker 1>you know, this is now being quite the fastest growing

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<v Speaker 1>surgery in the world. Yes, it's not available in Australia

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<v Speaker 1>yet because it takes a long time for things to

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<v Speaker 1>be approved there. Yes, which is why people are coming

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<v Speaker 1>to Bali. And now it's essentially available to the Australian

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<v Speaker 1>market in Bali, and yes they you Athena. Everyone here

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<v Speaker 1>is going to document the reality. I'm going to say

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<v Speaker 1>what it's really like. But then I just worry it

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<v Speaker 1>sets this new standard because you remember the Kardashians popped

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<v Speaker 1>along and Kylie had the big lips, but for years

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<v Speaker 1>she denied getting filler. She was saying it was her

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<v Speaker 1>lip or something. And then that was just a lie yep,

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<v Speaker 1>and then Kim had the big one whatever, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>like the more people kept seeing that, and then more

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<v Speaker 1>people copy them, so then it's set its standard. And

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<v Speaker 1>now it feels like in America, especially this RiPP thing,

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<v Speaker 1>this snatch waste, it's huge. Yeah, and that's where I

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<v Speaker 1>saw it, and I read it in my mama Miir

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<v Speaker 1>who said this is the next thing. Yep. And I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't really think it had hit Australia so quick. And

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<v Speaker 1>I get your all being honest, but then do you

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<v Speaker 1>worry that you contact on young girls like in saying

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<v Speaker 1>three months, once everyone's recovered in all your pictures, you've

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<v Speaker 1>got this new hourglass waist, which isn't the sea, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not the the not the thing to boast about right now,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you know, people are going to see that, and

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<v Speaker 1>they'll see it more and more, and they'll see a

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<v Speaker 1>Fino and all the other girls, and then gradually it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be like, well, young girls, ago, well I

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<v Speaker 1>want that. Oh you can't get that in the gym

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<v Speaker 1>because it's either you're born with this or you're not.

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<v Speaker 1>It's bones in your body, essentially.

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<v Speaker 3>I understand.

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<v Speaker 4>Look, I have a responsibility as someone that's online and

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<v Speaker 4>that is open to everyone about Like, you know, everyone

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<v Speaker 4>can see my social media. That can see my TikTok,

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<v Speaker 4>that can see my Instagram, that can see my Facebook.

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<v Speaker 4>They can see it, all right, And I understand that

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<v Speaker 4>I have a responsibility.

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<v Speaker 3>To the people, to the younger people.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, my demographic is ninety five percent women, and

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<v Speaker 4>the the age the ages are probably.

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<v Speaker 3>Around twenty seven to forty five who follow me.

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<v Speaker 4>However, I'm going to come back at you and say, well,

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<v Speaker 4>all right, is this setting a bad standard for someone?

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<v Speaker 4>But then what happens if someone sees me and I

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<v Speaker 4>walk out and I've got some little body chondress on

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<v Speaker 4>and I look some hot effie cats number, you know, stylish,

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<v Speaker 4>and these young girls are going I wish I had

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<v Speaker 4>a waistlength that, and then they hate themselves. But I've

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<v Speaker 4>been honest and said, this is what I've gotten done.

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<v Speaker 4>And if you want to get to this point instead

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<v Speaker 4>of hating yourself because you don't look like a feno

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<v Speaker 4>or mean almost look like me, obviously, sit thisloth over here.

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<v Speaker 2>But like I put yourself downe with shut up, someone give.

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<v Speaker 3>Me free teeth.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I'm just kidding but like, you know, if they

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<v Speaker 4>look like me or any of the other girls, instead

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<v Speaker 4>of like doing a car and.

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<v Speaker 3>Saying I'm just natural, this is just what I'm like.

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<v Speaker 3>If you train this way, then you'll attain this. That's

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<v Speaker 3>also not being responsible for.

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<v Speaker 1>At least they will instantly know, Hey, you may be

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<v Speaker 1>looking and want this figure, but this isn't natural.

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<v Speaker 2>I paid for this. This was cosmetic.

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<v Speaker 4>But this is a critical situation that I've done. I've

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<v Speaker 4>made an informed decision about and I am not responsible.

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<v Speaker 3>I understand that.

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<v Speaker 4>What I do you know now in the public eye

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<v Speaker 4>is i have a responsibility to be ethical and open

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<v Speaker 4>about what I'm doing. But at the same time, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not responsible for anyone else's decisions about their body, and

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<v Speaker 4>therefore no one else is responsible to make a decision

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<v Speaker 4>about mine.

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<v Speaker 1>One thing that is hard when talking to Back is

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<v Speaker 1>how often she just puts herself down. If I'm being

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<v Speaker 1>honest and like, this isn't me claiming to be a psychologist,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll have some deep.

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<v Speaker 2>Understanding of why people do things they do. But I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>if you.

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<v Speaker 1>Just endlessly speak about yourself negatively and frame it negatively

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<v Speaker 1>in your mind, like when you look at yourself all

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<v Speaker 1>that is going to do is reinforce this belief in

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<v Speaker 1>you that you constantly need to change yourself. Does all

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<v Speaker 1>of your choices with that come from a place of insecurity?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>Look this this will be my most vulnerable and my

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<v Speaker 4>most insecure. Like everyone's like share someone insecure on maps.

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<v Speaker 4>This coming up, your your documentary about this about me.

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<v Speaker 4>This is where I'm going to be letting my walls

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<v Speaker 4>down in a way that I've never before. You get naked,

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<v Speaker 4>you have a shag whatever, like it's good fun and

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<v Speaker 4>like you know, like that's great. But I'm allowing, not allowing.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't want to sound like I'm that sounds what's

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<v Speaker 4>the word not allowing?

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<v Speaker 1>You?

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<v Speaker 3>We even we have collaborated.

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<v Speaker 1>You're happy to when we spoke about me doing this

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<v Speaker 1>and I was asking your reasons. Obviously you have lost

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of way in recent years, and every time

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<v Speaker 1>I've met you this year, there's always been a moment

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<v Speaker 1>where you've looked at yourself in the mirror. You've looked

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<v Speaker 1>at way you are in and you complained about your skin,

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<v Speaker 1>or you've tried to hide something, or even this morning

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<v Speaker 1>at breakfast the group of us, the first thing you

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<v Speaker 1>did was like, show how you're hiding your belly, and

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<v Speaker 1>I said, you don't have to do that.

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<v Speaker 4>Because I know I'm thin, right, I know I'm little,

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<v Speaker 4>but I do you. I'm where I've invited you in

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<v Speaker 4>to actually film the most vulnerable parts of me, which

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<v Speaker 4>is what's underneath my clothes. I know I can put

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<v Speaker 4>an outfit together a look schmick, but what's underneath my

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<v Speaker 4>clothes is my insecurity.

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<v Speaker 1>It's my tomorrow. When I'm coming to the hospital with you.

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<v Speaker 1>You're going to have the scan and stuff before they

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<v Speaker 1>draw on your body, and you say you've never you want, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you told me you want to show people because there's

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<v Speaker 1>so many people that are going to relate to that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and I'm a real woman. I'm a real human being,

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<v Speaker 4>and I of course like not no one walks around

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<v Speaker 4>like some of these influences here like are the like

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<v Speaker 4>they're so perfect and view and they're still standing there

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<v Speaker 4>being like, oh I hate this or I hate this

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<v Speaker 4>my hair, And it's like, so no one anyone out

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<v Speaker 4>there that sits here and says, oh, yeah, I love

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<v Speaker 4>every aspect of me.

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<v Speaker 3>Good on you.

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<v Speaker 4>I wish I could get to that point, but I'm

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<v Speaker 4>a real woman who's gone through real time things, who

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<v Speaker 4>was overweight for a long time, much to the reddit

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<v Speaker 4>people's dismay of no, she wasn't. And so from that,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm proud of myself of where I've gotten to, but

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<v Speaker 4>I have insecurities about the loose skin on my stomach.

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<v Speaker 1>Something I hope that would potentially happen through this series

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<v Speaker 1>is that by back not just talking openly about the

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<v Speaker 1>loose skin she is so insecure about after her weight loss,

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<v Speaker 1>but making that choice, like through me and the content,

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<v Speaker 1>that she wants to show it publicly for the first

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<v Speaker 1>time and like stop hiding it as if it's something

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<v Speaker 1>to be ashamed of. Is that perhaps or I thought,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe naively, that it may lead to this like moment

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<v Speaker 1>of empowerment for her where she realizes that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>she's just not a lot with this or this single insecurity,

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<v Speaker 1>and there'll be so many people out there, women especially,

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<v Speaker 1>who feel the same and also spend so much of

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<v Speaker 1>their life hiding you know, certain parts of themselves. And

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<v Speaker 1>then maybe again naively, I thought, back having that little moment,

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<v Speaker 1>it may make her see that, you know, instead of

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<v Speaker 1>going to such extremes of physically changing things like with

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<v Speaker 1>this procedure, maybe for Beck at least, you know, should

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<v Speaker 1>realize the thing she should focus on changing first is

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<v Speaker 1>her mentality and how she sees herself and refers to herself.

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<v Speaker 4>Like I've got shaggy boobs and I've got ssagy skiin

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<v Speaker 4>and like my bomb, I don't have a bum anymore,

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<v Speaker 4>like you know, And because I've lost all my boobs

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<v Speaker 4>and my bomb, I look like I.

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<v Speaker 3>Look very blocky.

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<v Speaker 4>And so when this came up, I was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I want this, I want to do this.

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<v Speaker 2>And do you feel confident since you lost the wight?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Way more confident, way more confident. Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that getting dressed is fun, you know, walking

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<v Speaker 4>around and not feeling self conscious, like coming to Bali

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<v Speaker 4>and I came down for breakfast this morning in a

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<v Speaker 4>bikini top, pants and a shirt, but like I was

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<v Speaker 4>still walking around exposed, confident, you know, getting dressed to

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<v Speaker 4>go for dinners and putting on a little dress and

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<v Speaker 4>not sitting there and trying on fifteen thousand outfits and

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<v Speaker 4>hating every one of them because I hated what I

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<v Speaker 4>see in the mirror.

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<v Speaker 3>It's changed my life.

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<v Speaker 1>But if some of that confidence maybe forced or convincing yourself.

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<v Speaker 4>Nah, No, I don't think so. I think because I

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<v Speaker 4>love what I love what I look like with clothes on.

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<v Speaker 4>But what I look like with clothes off is what

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<v Speaker 4>hits my soul hard. I struggle with my with my

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<v Speaker 4>loose skin, and I struggle with the fact that I train,

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<v Speaker 4>but I no matter how much I train, like I've

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<v Speaker 4>got muscles, but there's still loose skin.

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<v Speaker 2>I hate it.

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<v Speaker 3>I hate it. I hate it.

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<v Speaker 2>I hate it.

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<v Speaker 4>I get that, it's just fucking hate.

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<v Speaker 1>It makes me sad in a way that like I

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<v Speaker 1>get it. And especially know the industry. You're in your

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<v Speaker 1>class as an influencer. Now you've got an audience, so

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to all these beauty events and you're around

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<v Speaker 1>essentially perfect people endlessly because that's this industry. And I suppose,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe you got to this mindset where you

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<v Speaker 1>did feel comfortable, but then certainly you're now in this

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<v Speaker 1>new extreme of fashion WEEKND models and.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and look, there is a pressure, but I don't

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<v Speaker 4>give in. I think we all know, right, you, me,

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<v Speaker 4>the public, everyone. I think everyone knows that if I

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<v Speaker 4>want to do something, I do it. If I don't

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<v Speaker 4>want to do something, I don't do it. Right, and

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<v Speaker 4>I don't feel pressured to do this. I want to,

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<v Speaker 4>I want I want to do this. I don't feel pressure.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, there's people in my life that are like, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>don't do it. You You've been telling me fifteen hundred times,

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<v Speaker 4>what are you doing, don't do it, don't do it?

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<v Speaker 3>You are you sure you want to do this? And

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<v Speaker 3>I get it. I hear you.

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<v Speaker 4>I understand, but I've I've made an informed decision and

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<v Speaker 4>it's something I want to do.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to better myself. I want to do.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, come at me, teeth nose, boob done, skin

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<v Speaker 4>cut off, get ready like it won't be the last

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<v Speaker 4>cost minute procedure you've seen me get done.

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<v Speaker 3>And I don't care. I don't care what anyone thinks.

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<v Speaker 3>I want it. I'm getting it. I can't drink any

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<v Speaker 3>more wine.

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<v Speaker 1>To end Part three and this podcast episode, I'm again

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<v Speaker 1>going to be quite honest with you here and say

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't expect while coming over here to make this

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<v Speaker 1>that I would feel so not just out of my depth,

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<v Speaker 1>but also just powerless. Like through my career when I've

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<v Speaker 1>done stories or podcasts, or even like when I wrote

0:19:38.760 --> 0:19:42.119
<v Speaker 1>my book or whatever, there's usually I usually approach these

0:19:42.160 --> 0:19:45.200
<v Speaker 1>things already kind of knowing the start, middle, and end,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I find no way to tell that story

0:19:48.200 --> 0:19:52.080
<v Speaker 1>or whatever the story within whatever happened is. But like

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<v Speaker 1>here now, like this is ongoing and there is no end,

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<v Speaker 1>or I suppose I'm realizing this is probably not going

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<v Speaker 1>to have the end I thought it may when you know,

0:20:06.080 --> 0:20:08.840
<v Speaker 1>constantly being here speaking to Beck on and off camera

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<v Speaker 1>and questioning why she's doing this, why she speaks down

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<v Speaker 1>on herself, like I thought maybe it would give her

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<v Speaker 1>that light bulb moment where she finally just stop for

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<v Speaker 1>a second and realize that, hey, the only thing she

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<v Speaker 1>should be changing, just for now at least is how

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<v Speaker 1>she sees herself and refers to herself. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe then she would decide not to do this procedure

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<v Speaker 1>here and just go home to Australia, or at least

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<v Speaker 1>just decide not to do it right now this week,

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<v Speaker 1>while still being trolled daily, while her life stills such

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<v Speaker 1>a whirlwind, and just yeah, like take more time to

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<v Speaker 1>question is this really what she wants?

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<v Speaker 2>And why is she doing it?

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, change how she views herself first, and

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<v Speaker 1>then go do I want this? But nah, I'm realizing,

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<v Speaker 1>especially after that chart, that yeah, this is real life,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not fiction. I can't just give this the ending

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted or hoped. And you know, no matter how

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<v Speaker 1>much I ask beck things in question and you know, say,

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<v Speaker 1>are you really really really sure about this, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>going to be changing her mind. And the only person

0:21:18.119 --> 0:21:21.840
<v Speaker 1>who can change her mind is herself. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's now a few hours left until she goes to

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<v Speaker 1>the hospital to have the procedure, and yeah, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think she will be. But again, yeah, actually no, I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't like the ending to this podcast. And several hours

0:21:39.119 --> 0:21:42.640
<v Speaker 1>have passed since I recorded that, and I've actually got

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<v Speaker 1>one more thing to say before surgery day tomorrow. It's

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<v Speaker 1>quite late here and now, so apologies if I sound

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<v Speaker 1>a bit flat, like I am very tired, to be honest.

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<v Speaker 4>But.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, throughout this trip, right, I keep hearing this phrase

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<v Speaker 1>my body, my choice, And to be clear, I agree

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<v Speaker 1>with that readult has the right to make decisions about

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<v Speaker 1>their own body.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course they do.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's starting to feel like and this isn't just

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<v Speaker 1>like beck A, Feena, the people on this trip, it

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<v Speaker 1>feels like broader just in general, like it's starting to

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<v Speaker 1>feel that phrase is often like a shield that can

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<v Speaker 1>shut down like any conversations before they even begin, because yeah, again.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course it's your body, your choice.

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<v Speaker 1>But when you're someone who's built a career sharing your

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<v Speaker 1>life online, monetizing an audience and influencing thousands and even

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes millions of people, like the conversations then do become

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<v Speaker 1>much bigger than you because you've put your life out

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<v Speaker 1>there for millions of people. And you know, it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>mean you deserve trolling or abuse or strangers dictating what

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<v Speaker 1>you can and can't do, like, not at all, but

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<v Speaker 1>it does mean that people are allowed to ask questions

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<v Speaker 1>and have an opinion because you've built a career, like

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<v Speaker 1>you pay your bills by essentially having those people have

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<v Speaker 1>opinions about you, and like they're not always going to

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<v Speaker 1>be positive, like and I accept that about myself, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I choose to put myself out there with the podcast

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<v Speaker 1>and my content and like my book and whatever, Like

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<v Speaker 1>that's just a reality. Not everyone is gonna agree with

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<v Speaker 1>me and things. Not everyone's even gonna like me. That's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>I accept that makes me sad at times tonight, it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't ed it off topic, but yeah, when we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about something as divisive as cosmetic procedures. Of course it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have huge reactions from people because it's something so

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<v Speaker 1>many people feel so strongly about. And one of the

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<v Speaker 1>most prominent comments I've seen, like across my content so

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<v Speaker 1>far from this trip, and especially from people I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna call that personally who I'm very surprised at their

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<v Speaker 1>takes on this. But that's a whole other thing is like,

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<v Speaker 1>even Josh, how can you be part of promoting this?

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<v Speaker 2>Josh, Like you're not what we fought you.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's like, I don't understand that because again, because

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<v Speaker 1>the sad reality is young people are being exposed to

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<v Speaker 1>this content every single day, and and they don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to seek it out. It's pushed to them through algorithms

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<v Speaker 1>and recommended posts and sponsored content and just scrolling. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's on TV, it's on Netflix, it's everywhere you look.

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<v Speaker 1>These people essentially been like, look how hotly I'm after

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<v Speaker 1>all this work. And again, as I said in yesterday's podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>and we now live in a world where every single

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<v Speaker 1>scroll essentially suggests we're one procedure away from becoming the

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<v Speaker 1>person we're supposed to be, and that is the thing

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<v Speaker 1>that concerns me most, and that is why I'm here

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<v Speaker 1>doing this, because I think we just need to keep

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<v Speaker 1>bringing the context behind it, bringing in the why, asking why,

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<v Speaker 1>understanding the why, like why are so many beautiful people

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<v Speaker 1>convinced that they're not enough? Why are so many people

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<v Speaker 1>now younger and younger altering their appearances so drastically and permanently,

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<v Speaker 1>Like these are the conversations I want to have on this,

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<v Speaker 1>And that's why again I'm here, Like I want everyone essentially,

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<v Speaker 1>like just to be transparent from start to finish. Like

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<v Speaker 1>so those young girls and guys, let's be honest, who

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<v Speaker 1>will see the glamorized before and alfter pictures which are everywhere,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, so they can then at least make more

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<v Speaker 1>informed choices themselves about it if they actually want to

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<v Speaker 1>be influenced by these people to copy what they've done

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<v Speaker 1>and get the same work done, like understand the.

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<v Speaker 2>Why why did they get there? Why did they do that?

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<v Speaker 1>And then have that thought process in your mind rather

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<v Speaker 1>than just seeing the pictures and yeah, copying. Fuck, I

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<v Speaker 1>honestly didn't like think I'd be getting this deep with

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<v Speaker 1>all of this content or how much it would low

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<v Speaker 1>key be impacting me in a way I never expected anyway, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I help. This last part to the pod makes sense

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<v Speaker 1>in my head, it makes sense, But I am so

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<v Speaker 1>exhaust said that, I fear I'm not articulating myself very well.

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<v Speaker 1>And this content, like the turnaround is so quick that

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<v Speaker 1>I can't really sit with it to like do a

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<v Speaker 1>proper script, like I would, you know, back home if

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<v Speaker 1>I had infinite kind of speak, infinite time to work

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<v Speaker 1>on this project.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, a part four, probably tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>I assume what will happen in that. I honestly, at

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<v Speaker 1>this point I don't know. I don't know anything other

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<v Speaker 1>than I'm going to go to bed now say it