Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome back to the Maspuny Podcast and part
Speaker 1: three of this little investigation series here in Bali. In
Speaker 1: this episode, you're gonna hear me sit down we Beck
Speaker 1: prior to her undergoing this rib recontouring procedure. You will
Speaker 1: hear me repeatedly ask her just why are you doing this?
Speaker 1: And you'll also hear me midway through. I suppose have
Speaker 1: this continual internal battle of like being yes, I am
Speaker 1: here in this country to document this trip and what
Speaker 1: is happening, whilst yes, sharing my opinion on it all,
Speaker 1: but also as I sat with Beck, I just realized
Speaker 1: more than ever I am also someone here in this
Speaker 1: country amongst this who just doesn't want her to.
Speaker 2: Get this done. Hi, Beck, Hi, Josh, back on the podcast.
Speaker 3: Back on the pod.
Speaker 1: Baby, Now I must point out tomorrow is your surgery.
Speaker 1: You You've arrived with a vape and a glass of wine,
Speaker 1: two things that are not really permitted pre surgery.
Speaker 3: Hello, this is half veno half soda water. It's just one.
Speaker 1: It's not really doing the rumors very well that you
Speaker 1: may have an issue.
Speaker 3: I'm on holiday, I have an issue?
Speaker 2: Off?
Speaker 3: Fuck off?
Speaker 2: Is this a holiday?
Speaker 3: Absolutely? You're joking.
Speaker 4: Seven days in one of the best hotels in the
Speaker 4: world and free cosmetic surgery.
Speaker 3: This is a holiday for me.
Speaker 1: I suppose we've had a lot of backlash or yeah.
Speaker 1: Usually i'd say you, but I've been dragged into it.
Speaker 2: It's fair.
Speaker 1: I knew documenting this would be controversial. You're doing a job, though, Josh, Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm a journalist and Cole take opinions. But
Speaker 1: for me, like the thing that's different now to when
Speaker 1: I used to do surgery stuff for the magazines years
Speaker 1: ago is when you're a journalist, you can't really have
Speaker 1: an opinion or a voice. You just write, whereas now
Speaker 1: is like a creator. You know, I've said to you
Speaker 1: about twenty times in the last twenty four hours, why
Speaker 1: are you doing this?
Speaker 3: Yes, you have and every opportunity you get.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm still letting you come back out if
Speaker 2: you want.
Speaker 3: Not backing out, no, I.
Speaker 1: Think, well tell me why are you here to have
Speaker 1: your ribs recontored?
Speaker 4: Get contouring of the ribs, So first and foremost we're
Speaker 4: not getting ribs removed, that's not a thing. They're contoured.
Speaker 4: So it's essentially vis and VISI line for your ribs.
Speaker 4: So people get their teeth done. Anyone that wants to
Speaker 4: do my teeth, I'm in the running for that two place.
Speaker 4: Every hook me up. You know, we've all talked about
Speaker 4: the weight I've lost and whatnot, and you know, I
Speaker 4: I'm happy to do anything like this will be my
Speaker 4: third cosmetic procedure and this won't be my last.
Speaker 1: So but did you actually want these things? Are you're
Speaker 1: just doing it for the sake of it?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 3: Well, look, I didn't think about it.
Speaker 4: I've always looked at my body and thought, okay, so
Speaker 4: I've got I'm a part of the itty bitty titty committee, right.
Speaker 4: I have tiny boobs, they're not really any boobs, right,
Speaker 4: and I don't have a bum. And so when I
Speaker 4: look at myself in the mirror, I've got a little
Speaker 4: bit of a shit shape. But I will eventually get
Speaker 4: my boobs done. But I don't want massive kahunas, right,
Speaker 4: But in order to get that sort of hour glass
Speaker 4: looking figure, you would need to have your bum done
Speaker 4: and your boobs done massive to have this.
Speaker 3: This figure right. And so when it when when it
Speaker 3: came to me.
Speaker 4: I consulted a number of people, doctors and whatnot, and said,
Speaker 4: is this is this feasible. All it works, It is safe, yep.
Speaker 4: And you know, I had some serious discussions with people
Speaker 4: and they were like, look, it's it's not invasive. It's
Speaker 4: a bloodless it's a bloodless procedure and it works. And
Speaker 4: so I thought about it and I thought.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want this done as much as I sat
Speaker 1: there with back listening and thinking like, sure, everything you're
Speaker 1: saying is valid. And again, it is your body, and
Speaker 1: in all of our own heads we have these visions,
Speaker 1: you know, of how we would love to look if
Speaker 1: we could. But but just as we continue to chat,
Speaker 1: I question her more and more like, is that the
Speaker 1: sole reason you're doing this? Or is this just partly
Speaker 1: because of the virality. You know, it's going to bring
Speaker 1: the controversy and the dopamine hit you're going to get
Speaker 1: from that. But I feel you no offense. Maybe do
Speaker 1: things for the plot because last time we spoke, you
Speaker 1: had fallen in love with it hadn't fallen in You
Speaker 1: were falling in love with a male Lescot And we
Speaker 1: did a whole chat where you were questioning could you
Speaker 1: pursue a relationship with a man whose job is having
Speaker 1: sex with of a women? And you were genuinely like
Speaker 1: you thought you could because you like this man so much.
Speaker 1: And that was maybe seven weeks ago. You've not You've
Speaker 1: not mentioned this guy once in what two days in Ballet.
Speaker 4: I haven't mentioned him once in in Bali yet, So
Speaker 4: that's over.
Speaker 3: Firstly, I've never said I was falling in love with
Speaker 3: an escort.
Speaker 2: You should strong feelings, do you know.
Speaker 3: I don't think I did.
Speaker 4: Look, he's a beautiful human. He's just not my human.
Speaker 4: And that's just where it is at. But still respect
Speaker 4: for anyone in the sex industry.
Speaker 2: But do you remember when we did that chat in
Speaker 2: my house?
Speaker 1: Yep, and I was like, this is not what I
Speaker 1: thought our follow up chat with the escort, and then
Speaker 1: I said, maybe six seven weeks, I want to do
Speaker 1: another follow off of How I Am. Never did I
Speaker 1: think would be in Balibo getting your rips.
Speaker 3: Do you know what? Yeah, I probably do do things
Speaker 3: with a plot.
Speaker 4: I speaking to my manager the other day and she
Speaker 4: was like, oh, Beck, I'm really nervous for you, And
Speaker 4: I said to her, but Babe, like, I don't care
Speaker 4: what anyone thinks, right, I live my life doing what
Speaker 4: I want to do when I want to do it,
Speaker 4: And hatter is it going to hate?
Speaker 1: As Beck and I continued chatting, we kept circling back
Speaker 1: to this point of self love, which to her at
Speaker 1: least is the reason she's here doing this. But to
Speaker 1: me and I suppose so many other people on the
Speaker 1: outside at least, it feels it's perhaps more something she's
Speaker 1: doing in the hope it will finally bring her the
Speaker 1: self love she's always been searching for, especially after losing
Speaker 1: thirty kilos in like the last three years, I think,
Speaker 1: and still not being happy when she looks in the mirror,
Speaker 1: while now endlessly being criticized by millions of people online daily.
Speaker 4: Let me give you an example, right, Okay, So I'm
Speaker 4: going to do some body contouring that's going to make
Speaker 4: me feel better. I've got a lot of loose skin.
Speaker 4: This is the most vulnerable I'm ever going to be,
Speaker 4: because when I have my surgery done, I've said to you,
Speaker 4: if we're going to do this, I want, I want,
Speaker 4: I want people to see all of me.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 4: I've got loose skin, and I'm insecure about it, right
Speaker 4: I am, I just am. I'm proud of myself for
Speaker 4: where I've gotten to, but there's parts of me that
Speaker 4: I that I can't stand sometimes looking in the mirror.
Speaker 3: But but.
Speaker 4: I am doing something that I am excited about for myself,
Speaker 4: and I am going to always do.
Speaker 3: This isn't to be my last cosmetic precadure. Put it
Speaker 3: that way.
Speaker 4: Your body, your choice, what you feel confident with, in
Speaker 4: what you feel comfortable with, fucking do it. So why
Speaker 4: are all these Karens coming at me? Let me get
Speaker 4: my ribs done.
Speaker 1: The thing I find sad here is just the two
Speaker 1: extremes that Beck constantly sits between and I suppose lives between.
Speaker 1: And you know, for months now, since appearing the Maths,
Speaker 1: there has been tens of thousands of comments, if not
Speaker 1: more hundreds of thousands of comments of people picking apart
Speaker 1: every part of Beck's appearance, and you know, they'll write
Speaker 1: things like she should get this done, she should change that.
Speaker 1: That's horrible, like all these very vicious comments, and a
Speaker 1: lot of people write them thinking Beck will never read them,
Speaker 1: But she does read them, any posts about her, any
Speaker 1: news posts she's on there, she's in the comments, and
Speaker 1: she's seeing all these messages. And then after you know,
Speaker 1: she's announced via this series, will Hey, I'm now in
Speaker 1: Bali and I'm about to change something. Now it's the opposite,
Speaker 1: and these thousands of comments from people going this is stupid,
Speaker 1: this is extreme, this is potentially dangerous. Why are you
Speaker 1: doing this? Why can't you love who you are? And
Speaker 1: then when you have someone like Beck in the middle
Speaker 1: of all that, who, let's be honest, is insecure and
Speaker 1: has spent much of a life battling with her body image.
Speaker 1: When like an offer for a trip like this and
Speaker 1: a new procedure here in Balley pops up, I can
Speaker 1: see why she, like back, someone like Beck would jump
Speaker 1: at that chance to just change one thing, which again is.
Speaker 2: Just quite sad.
Speaker 1: There's this thing where overall people are saying, why are
Speaker 1: you doing this rip thing? It's stupid. But then you've
Speaker 1: got thousands of people saying, but you should do this instead,
Speaker 1: and do it, and it's like get.
Speaker 4: Your teeth done, get your mouth done, get your jaw done,
Speaker 4: get your skin done, get you this done, get your
Speaker 4: nose done. Like trust me, if I could, I would, nah,
Speaker 4: please don't.
Speaker 3: Yeah, get a brain trance plant. It's like a fuck off, Jeremy.
Speaker 4: What the way I'm what I'm working my like, what
Speaker 4: I'm working myself off of is this is my body,
Speaker 4: and this is my choice, and I'm choosing to share
Speaker 4: it with people because I'm sure that there's some people
Speaker 4: out there.
Speaker 2: Like.
Speaker 4: To be honest with you, the amount of private messages
Speaker 4: that I've had from people saying, oh my god, I
Speaker 4: didn't realize I could get this done, where are you
Speaker 4: getting it done?
Speaker 3: And what is it?
Speaker 4: Right, you would be surprised, I'd probably say in the
Speaker 4: hundreds right of people being like, Wow, I actually want this.
Speaker 1: This is what worries me in a weird way because
Speaker 1: you know, this is now being quite the fastest growing
Speaker 1: surgery in the world. Yes, it's not available in Australia
Speaker 1: yet because it takes a long time for things to
Speaker 1: be approved there. Yes, which is why people are coming
Speaker 1: to Bali. And now it's essentially available to the Australian
Speaker 1: market in Bali, and yes they you Athena. Everyone here
Speaker 1: is going to document the reality. I'm going to say
Speaker 1: what it's really like. But then I just worry it
Speaker 1: sets this new standard because you remember the Kardashians popped
Speaker 1: along and Kylie had the big lips, but for years
Speaker 1: she denied getting filler. She was saying it was her
Speaker 1: lip or something. And then that was just a lie yep,
Speaker 1: and then Kim had the big one whatever, and it's
Speaker 1: like the more people kept seeing that, and then more
Speaker 1: people copy them, so then it's set its standard. And
Speaker 1: now it feels like in America, especially this RiPP thing,
Speaker 1: this snatch waste, it's huge. Yeah, and that's where I
Speaker 1: saw it, and I read it in my mama Miir
Speaker 1: who said this is the next thing. Yep. And I
Speaker 1: didn't really think it had hit Australia so quick. And
Speaker 1: I get your all being honest, but then do you
Speaker 1: worry that you contact on young girls like in saying
Speaker 1: three months, once everyone's recovered in all your pictures, you've
Speaker 1: got this new hourglass waist, which isn't the sea, it's
Speaker 1: not the the not the thing to boast about right now,
Speaker 1: Like you know, people are going to see that, and
Speaker 1: they'll see it more and more, and they'll see a
Speaker 1: Fino and all the other girls, and then gradually it's
Speaker 1: going to be like, well, young girls, ago, well I
Speaker 1: want that. Oh you can't get that in the gym
Speaker 1: because it's either you're born with this or you're not.
Speaker 1: It's bones in your body, essentially.
Speaker 3: I understand.
Speaker 4: Look, I have a responsibility as someone that's online and
Speaker 4: that is open to everyone about Like, you know, everyone
Speaker 4: can see my social media. That can see my TikTok,
Speaker 4: that can see my Instagram, that can see my Facebook.
Speaker 4: They can see it, all right, And I understand that
Speaker 4: I have a responsibility.
Speaker 3: To the people, to the younger people.
Speaker 4: I mean, my demographic is ninety five percent women, and
Speaker 4: the the age the ages are probably.
Speaker 3: Around twenty seven to forty five who follow me.
Speaker 4: However, I'm going to come back at you and say, well,
Speaker 4: all right, is this setting a bad standard for someone?
Speaker 4: But then what happens if someone sees me and I
Speaker 4: walk out and I've got some little body chondress on
Speaker 4: and I look some hot effie cats number, you know, stylish,
Speaker 4: and these young girls are going I wish I had
Speaker 4: a waistlength that, and then they hate themselves. But I've
Speaker 4: been honest and said, this is what I've gotten done.
Speaker 4: And if you want to get to this point instead
Speaker 4: of hating yourself because you don't look like a feno
Speaker 4: or mean almost look like me, obviously, sit thisloth over here.
Speaker 2: But like I put yourself downe with shut up, someone give.
Speaker 3: Me free teeth.
Speaker 4: No, I'm just kidding but like, you know, if they
Speaker 4: look like me or any of the other girls, instead
Speaker 4: of like doing a car and.
Speaker 3: Saying I'm just natural, this is just what I'm like.
Speaker 3: If you train this way, then you'll attain this. That's
Speaker 3: also not being responsible for.
Speaker 1: At least they will instantly know, Hey, you may be
Speaker 1: looking and want this figure, but this isn't natural.
Speaker 2: I paid for this. This was cosmetic.
Speaker 4: But this is a critical situation that I've done. I've
Speaker 4: made an informed decision about and I am not responsible.
Speaker 3: I understand that.
Speaker 4: What I do you know now in the public eye
Speaker 4: is i have a responsibility to be ethical and open
Speaker 4: about what I'm doing. But at the same time, I'm
Speaker 4: not responsible for anyone else's decisions about their body, and
Speaker 4: therefore no one else is responsible to make a decision
Speaker 4: about mine.
Speaker 1: One thing that is hard when talking to Back is
Speaker 1: how often she just puts herself down. If I'm being
Speaker 1: honest and like, this isn't me claiming to be a psychologist,
Speaker 1: I'll have some deep.
Speaker 2: Understanding of why people do things they do. But I mean,
Speaker 2: if you.
Speaker 1: Just endlessly speak about yourself negatively and frame it negatively
Speaker 1: in your mind, like when you look at yourself all
Speaker 1: that is going to do is reinforce this belief in
Speaker 1: you that you constantly need to change yourself. Does all
Speaker 1: of your choices with that come from a place of insecurity?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Look this this will be my most vulnerable and my
Speaker 4: most insecure. Like everyone's like share someone insecure on maps.
Speaker 4: This coming up, your your documentary about this about me.
Speaker 4: This is where I'm going to be letting my walls
Speaker 4: down in a way that I've never before. You get naked,
Speaker 4: you have a shag whatever, like it's good fun and
Speaker 4: like you know, like that's great. But I'm allowing, not allowing.
Speaker 4: I don't want to sound like I'm that sounds what's
Speaker 4: the word not allowing?
Speaker 1: You?
Speaker 3: We even we have collaborated.
Speaker 1: You're happy to when we spoke about me doing this
Speaker 1: and I was asking your reasons. Obviously you have lost
Speaker 1: a lot of way in recent years, and every time
Speaker 1: I've met you this year, there's always been a moment
Speaker 1: where you've looked at yourself in the mirror. You've looked
Speaker 1: at way you are in and you complained about your skin,
Speaker 1: or you've tried to hide something, or even this morning
Speaker 1: at breakfast the group of us, the first thing you
Speaker 1: did was like, show how you're hiding your belly, and
Speaker 1: I said, you don't have to do that.
Speaker 4: Because I know I'm thin, right, I know I'm little,
Speaker 4: but I do you. I'm where I've invited you in
Speaker 4: to actually film the most vulnerable parts of me, which
Speaker 4: is what's underneath my clothes. I know I can put
Speaker 4: an outfit together a look schmick, but what's underneath my
Speaker 4: clothes is my insecurity.
Speaker 1: It's my tomorrow. When I'm coming to the hospital with you.
Speaker 1: You're going to have the scan and stuff before they
Speaker 1: draw on your body, and you say you've never you want, Well,
Speaker 1: you told me you want to show people because there's
Speaker 1: so many people that are going to relate to that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I'm a real woman. I'm a real human being,
Speaker 4: and I of course like not no one walks around
Speaker 4: like some of these influences here like are the like
Speaker 4: they're so perfect and view and they're still standing there
Speaker 4: being like, oh I hate this or I hate this
Speaker 4: my hair, And it's like, so no one anyone out
Speaker 4: there that sits here and says, oh, yeah, I love
Speaker 4: every aspect of me.
Speaker 3: Good on you.
Speaker 4: I wish I could get to that point, but I'm
Speaker 4: a real woman who's gone through real time things, who
Speaker 4: was overweight for a long time, much to the reddit
Speaker 4: people's dismay of no, she wasn't. And so from that,
Speaker 4: I'm proud of myself of where I've gotten to, but
Speaker 4: I have insecurities about the loose skin on my stomach.
Speaker 1: Something I hope that would potentially happen through this series
Speaker 1: is that by back not just talking openly about the
Speaker 1: loose skin she is so insecure about after her weight loss,
Speaker 1: but making that choice, like through me and the content,
Speaker 1: that she wants to show it publicly for the first
Speaker 1: time and like stop hiding it as if it's something
Speaker 1: to be ashamed of. Is that perhaps or I thought,
Speaker 1: maybe naively, that it may lead to this like moment
Speaker 1: of empowerment for her where she realizes that, you know,
Speaker 1: she's just not a lot with this or this single insecurity,
Speaker 1: and there'll be so many people out there, women especially,
Speaker 1: who feel the same and also spend so much of
Speaker 1: their life hiding you know, certain parts of themselves. And
Speaker 1: then maybe again naively, I thought, back having that little moment,
Speaker 1: it may make her see that, you know, instead of
Speaker 1: going to such extremes of physically changing things like with
Speaker 1: this procedure, maybe for Beck at least, you know, should
Speaker 1: realize the thing she should focus on changing first is
Speaker 1: her mentality and how she sees herself and refers to herself.
Speaker 4: Like I've got shaggy boobs and I've got ssagy skiin
Speaker 4: and like my bomb, I don't have a bum anymore,
Speaker 4: like you know, And because I've lost all my boobs
Speaker 4: and my bomb, I look like I.
Speaker 3: Look very blocky.
Speaker 4: And so when this came up, I was like, yeah,
Speaker 4: I want this, I want to do this.
Speaker 2: And do you feel confident since you lost the wight?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Way more confident, way more confident. Absolutely.
Speaker 4: I think that getting dressed is fun, you know, walking
Speaker 4: around and not feeling self conscious, like coming to Bali
Speaker 4: and I came down for breakfast this morning in a
Speaker 4: bikini top, pants and a shirt, but like I was
Speaker 4: still walking around exposed, confident, you know, getting dressed to
Speaker 4: go for dinners and putting on a little dress and
Speaker 4: not sitting there and trying on fifteen thousand outfits and
Speaker 4: hating every one of them because I hated what I
Speaker 4: see in the mirror.
Speaker 3: It's changed my life.
Speaker 1: But if some of that confidence maybe forced or convincing yourself.
Speaker 4: Nah, No, I don't think so. I think because I
Speaker 4: love what I love what I look like with clothes on.
Speaker 4: But what I look like with clothes off is what
Speaker 4: hits my soul hard. I struggle with my with my
Speaker 4: loose skin, and I struggle with the fact that I train,
Speaker 4: but I no matter how much I train, like I've
Speaker 4: got muscles, but there's still loose skin.
Speaker 2: I hate it.
Speaker 3: I hate it. I hate it.
Speaker 2: I hate it.
Speaker 4: I get that, it's just fucking hate.
Speaker 1: It makes me sad in a way that like I
Speaker 1: get it. And especially know the industry. You're in your
Speaker 1: class as an influencer. Now you've got an audience, so
Speaker 1: you're going to all these beauty events and you're around
Speaker 1: essentially perfect people endlessly because that's this industry. And I suppose,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe you got to this mindset where you
Speaker 1: did feel comfortable, but then certainly you're now in this
Speaker 1: new extreme of fashion WEEKND models and.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and look, there is a pressure, but I don't
Speaker 4: give in. I think we all know, right, you, me,
Speaker 4: the public, everyone. I think everyone knows that if I
Speaker 4: want to do something, I do it. If I don't
Speaker 4: want to do something, I don't do it. Right, and
Speaker 4: I don't feel pressured to do this. I want to,
Speaker 4: I want I want to do this. I don't feel pressure.
Speaker 4: You know, there's people in my life that are like, oh,
Speaker 4: don't do it. You You've been telling me fifteen hundred times,
Speaker 4: what are you doing, don't do it, don't do it?
Speaker 3: You are you sure you want to do this? And
Speaker 3: I get it. I hear you.
Speaker 4: I understand, but I've I've made an informed decision and
Speaker 4: it's something I want to do.
Speaker 3: I want to better myself. I want to do.
Speaker 4: I mean, come at me, teeth nose, boob done, skin
Speaker 4: cut off, get ready like it won't be the last
Speaker 4: cost minute procedure you've seen me get done.
Speaker 3: And I don't care. I don't care what anyone thinks.
Speaker 3: I want it. I'm getting it. I can't drink any
Speaker 3: more wine.
Speaker 1: To end Part three and this podcast episode, I'm again
Speaker 1: going to be quite honest with you here and say
Speaker 1: I didn't expect while coming over here to make this
Speaker 1: that I would feel so not just out of my depth,
Speaker 1: but also just powerless. Like through my career when I've
Speaker 1: done stories or podcasts, or even like when I wrote
Speaker 1: my book or whatever, there's usually I usually approach these
Speaker 1: things already kind of knowing the start, middle, and end,
Speaker 1: and then I find no way to tell that story
Speaker 1: or whatever the story within whatever happened is. But like
Speaker 1: here now, like this is ongoing and there is no end,
Speaker 1: or I suppose I'm realizing this is probably not going
Speaker 1: to have the end I thought it may when you know,
Speaker 1: constantly being here speaking to Beck on and off camera
Speaker 1: and questioning why she's doing this, why she speaks down
Speaker 1: on herself, like I thought maybe it would give her
Speaker 1: that light bulb moment where she finally just stop for
Speaker 1: a second and realize that, hey, the only thing she
Speaker 1: should be changing, just for now at least is how
Speaker 1: she sees herself and refers to herself. And you know,
Speaker 1: maybe then she would decide not to do this procedure
Speaker 1: here and just go home to Australia, or at least
Speaker 1: just decide not to do it right now this week,
Speaker 1: while still being trolled daily, while her life stills such
Speaker 1: a whirlwind, and just yeah, like take more time to
Speaker 1: question is this really what she wants?
Speaker 2: And why is she doing it?
Speaker 1: And you know, change how she views herself first, and
Speaker 1: then go do I want this? But nah, I'm realizing,
Speaker 1: especially after that chart, that yeah, this is real life,
Speaker 1: it's not fiction. I can't just give this the ending
Speaker 1: I wanted or hoped. And you know, no matter how
Speaker 1: much I ask beck things in question and you know, say,
Speaker 1: are you really really really sure about this, I'm not
Speaker 1: going to be changing her mind. And the only person
Speaker 1: who can change her mind is herself. And you know,
Speaker 1: there's now a few hours left until she goes to
Speaker 1: the hospital to have the procedure, and yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: think she will be. But again, yeah, actually no, I
Speaker 1: didn't like the ending to this podcast. And several hours
Speaker 1: have passed since I recorded that, and I've actually got
Speaker 1: one more thing to say before surgery day tomorrow. It's
Speaker 1: quite late here and now, so apologies if I sound
Speaker 1: a bit flat, like I am very tired, to be honest.
Speaker 4: But.
Speaker 1: Like, throughout this trip, right, I keep hearing this phrase
Speaker 1: my body, my choice, And to be clear, I agree
Speaker 1: with that readult has the right to make decisions about
Speaker 1: their own body.
Speaker 2: Of course they do.
Speaker 1: But it's starting to feel like and this isn't just
Speaker 1: like beck A, Feena, the people on this trip, it
Speaker 1: feels like broader just in general, like it's starting to
Speaker 1: feel that phrase is often like a shield that can
Speaker 1: shut down like any conversations before they even begin, because yeah, again.
Speaker 2: Of course it's your body, your choice.
Speaker 1: But when you're someone who's built a career sharing your
Speaker 1: life online, monetizing an audience and influencing thousands and even
Speaker 1: sometimes millions of people, like the conversations then do become
Speaker 1: much bigger than you because you've put your life out
Speaker 1: there for millions of people. And you know, it doesn't
Speaker 1: mean you deserve trolling or abuse or strangers dictating what
Speaker 1: you can and can't do, like, not at all, but
Speaker 1: it does mean that people are allowed to ask questions
Speaker 1: and have an opinion because you've built a career, like
Speaker 1: you pay your bills by essentially having those people have
Speaker 1: opinions about you, and like they're not always going to
Speaker 1: be positive, like and I accept that about myself, Like
Speaker 1: I choose to put myself out there with the podcast
Speaker 1: and my content and like my book and whatever, Like
Speaker 1: that's just a reality. Not everyone is gonna agree with
Speaker 1: me and things. Not everyone's even gonna like me. That's fine.
Speaker 1: I accept that makes me sad at times tonight, it
Speaker 1: doesn't ed it off topic, but yeah, when we're talking
Speaker 1: about something as divisive as cosmetic procedures. Of course it's
Speaker 1: gonna have huge reactions from people because it's something so
Speaker 1: many people feel so strongly about. And one of the
Speaker 1: most prominent comments I've seen, like across my content so
Speaker 1: far from this trip, and especially from people I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna call that personally who I'm very surprised at their
Speaker 1: takes on this. But that's a whole other thing is like,
Speaker 1: even Josh, how can you be part of promoting this?
Speaker 2: Josh, Like you're not what we fought you.
Speaker 1: And it's like, I don't understand that because again, because
Speaker 1: the sad reality is young people are being exposed to
Speaker 1: this content every single day, and and they don't have
Speaker 1: to seek it out. It's pushed to them through algorithms
Speaker 1: and recommended posts and sponsored content and just scrolling. And
Speaker 1: it's on TV, it's on Netflix, it's everywhere you look.
Speaker 1: These people essentially been like, look how hotly I'm after
Speaker 1: all this work. And again, as I said in yesterday's podcast,
Speaker 1: and we now live in a world where every single
Speaker 1: scroll essentially suggests we're one procedure away from becoming the
Speaker 1: person we're supposed to be, and that is the thing
Speaker 1: that concerns me most, and that is why I'm here
Speaker 1: doing this, because I think we just need to keep
Speaker 1: bringing the context behind it, bringing in the why, asking why,
Speaker 1: understanding the why, like why are so many beautiful people
Speaker 1: convinced that they're not enough? Why are so many people
Speaker 1: now younger and younger altering their appearances so drastically and permanently,
Speaker 1: Like these are the conversations I want to have on this,
Speaker 1: And that's why again I'm here, Like I want everyone essentially,
Speaker 1: like just to be transparent from start to finish. Like
Speaker 1: so those young girls and guys, let's be honest, who
Speaker 1: will see the glamorized before and alfter pictures which are everywhere,
Speaker 1: you know, so they can then at least make more
Speaker 1: informed choices themselves about it if they actually want to
Speaker 1: be influenced by these people to copy what they've done
Speaker 1: and get the same work done, like understand the.
Speaker 2: Why why did they get there? Why did they do that?
Speaker 1: And then have that thought process in your mind rather
Speaker 1: than just seeing the pictures and yeah, copying. Fuck, I
Speaker 1: honestly didn't like think I'd be getting this deep with
Speaker 1: all of this content or how much it would low
Speaker 1: key be impacting me in a way I never expected anyway, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I help. This last part to the pod makes sense
Speaker 1: in my head, it makes sense, But I am so
Speaker 1: exhaust said that, I fear I'm not articulating myself very well.
Speaker 1: And this content, like the turnaround is so quick that
Speaker 1: I can't really sit with it to like do a
Speaker 1: proper script, like I would, you know, back home if
Speaker 1: I had infinite kind of speak, infinite time to work
Speaker 1: on this project.
Speaker 2: But yeah, a part four, probably tomorrow.
Speaker 1: I assume what will happen in that. I honestly, at
Speaker 1: this point I don't know. I don't know anything other
Speaker 1: than I'm going to go to bed now say it