Speaker 1: From the sky Center. This is Paul Murray Live. Hello,
Speaker 1: Happy Monday, Come on into the man Cave. So much
Speaker 1: to do tonight. I can't wait to deliver what we've
Speaker 1: got for you, most importantly, no sooks, no lefties, the
Speaker 1: way you like it and the way it's definitely going
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Speaker 1: with Matt Canavan and James Morrow as our guests in
Speaker 1: the man Cave and in his own man Cave in Queensland.
Speaker 1: It's Christmas Eve for Trump fans. The big Guy is
Speaker 1: going to be coming down the stairs with presents for everyone.
Speaker 1: Executive order here, Executive order there, preview for in a second.
Speaker 1: And Die Lee, the KK killer of the last election.
Speaker 1: Well she's going round up against the Labour Party. You
Speaker 1: think they've worked out how to knock her off. I
Speaker 1: don't think they've got a chance. We'll talk to her
Speaker 1: a little bit later as part of our ever trending
Speaker 1: eye towards that upcoming election. Now you may will have
Speaker 1: heard that the latest opinion polls are not good for
Speaker 1: the Prime Minister. They are the same as the ones
Speaker 1: towards the end of last year, and they now show
Speaker 1: that Peter Dudden is there and level with Anthony Abinezy
Speaker 1: as the preferred prime minister. I'll give more detail about
Speaker 1: that a little bit later, but we have two very
Speaker 1: different ways of trying to convince Australians to vote the
Speaker 1: way they want us to at this upcoming election. Peter
Speaker 1: Dunton has been giving major speeches where he explains his values.
Speaker 1: Remember this great line from his speech in Melbourne.
Speaker 2: That we send our children to school for an education,
Speaker 2: not for an indoctrination.
Speaker 1: Well in Brisbane, he continued on the weekend, hitting it
Speaker 1: out of the park with the three questions which have
Speaker 1: an obvious answer.
Speaker 2: The coalition, the Liberal Party, of the National Party, of
Speaker 2: the LMP.
Speaker 1: We are the party of sport business.
Speaker 2: We are the party of managing the economy. We know
Speaker 2: how to fix up labors miss We've done it before
Speaker 2: and we will do it again after this election.
Speaker 1: As for the Prime Minister, well yet again another day,
Speaker 1: another not one but two billion dollars. Not his money,
Speaker 1: your money. Money that of course will not turn up
Speaker 1: in a budget if they happen to pop one out
Speaker 1: before the federal election. Why it's all investments, you see.
Speaker 1: Therefore it is off budget. But we decided to go
Speaker 1: back over the twenty days that we have been together
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five and have a look at the
Speaker 1: Prime minister's wild spending, because a desperate and weak politician
Speaker 1: is getting wilder by the day. Have a look at
Speaker 1: this stuff, right, join me over here today two billion,
Speaker 1: ten million five days ago, then five million, then twenty million,
Speaker 1: but we keep going three billion. There was also the
Speaker 1: best part of four point two billion. Another seven point
Speaker 1: two billion dollars. Now all of this has added up
Speaker 1: to billions, literally billions of dollars that have been promised
Speaker 1: by the Prime Minister, extraordinary amounts of money, extraordinary amounts
Speaker 1: of money, which, to be honest, he should be embarrassed by,
Speaker 1: but of course he's not because he thinks somehow this
Speaker 1: is all going to turn it around. That's the number
Speaker 1: that he is currently promising when it comes to the
Speaker 1: upcoming election. But guess what, it's not moving the polls
Speaker 1: because in this election year, one thing is very clear
Speaker 1: as we must remain laser focused every night, the key questions,
Speaker 1: the key data, and no one's waking up surprise. But
Speaker 1: as it was in twenty nineteen, it is again in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five nothing is inevitable. Minority government is not
Speaker 1: inevitable for this government, likely but not inevitable, but it
Speaker 1: doesn't Being able to get into a position to form
Speaker 1: a minority government not inevitable, yet not impossible either, So
Speaker 1: we have to pick keep an eye on the data.
Speaker 1: The best data is, of course, the book is they
Speaker 1: all stay, the coalition is going to form government. Doesn't
Speaker 1: know which type they say. There's going to be a
Speaker 1: change of government at this election. And the latest poll
Speaker 1: in the Financial Review today shows us that the ALP
Speaker 1: their primary vote is basically exactly where it was at
Speaker 1: the last election. Now that means it will be able
Speaker 1: to hold on too many of its seats. However, however,
Speaker 1: important to note here that the primary vote at thirty
Speaker 1: two percent basically the same as the last election. For
Speaker 1: the LNP, you can see that they are back up
Speaker 1: now to the magical forty. If there is a four
Speaker 1: in front of their number, then they can win an election.
Speaker 1: In fact, they most likely would win an election. The
Speaker 1: X factor, as always the teals the fact that the
Speaker 1: independents across the country are hitting at fifteen percent. Well,
Speaker 1: this of course matters in lots of different areas. It
Speaker 1: matters from Dyli in Western Sydney through to Bobcatter in
Speaker 1: North Queensland. Of course, it also means the Teals the
Speaker 1: Greens thirteen percent and there was no number given for
Speaker 1: one nation or anything else that is on the deck.
Speaker 1: That means in a two party preferred as you saw
Speaker 1: before fifty one forty nine, a change of government potentially
Speaker 1: on its way. As for the overall trend of things, thankfully,
Speaker 1: the Financial Review puts together the poll of polls where
Speaker 1: they show us the image heear of time since the
Speaker 1: two thousand and twenty two federal election where they went
Speaker 1: up and then they went down, down and down, and have
Speaker 1: been sub the best part of fifty certainly for the
Speaker 1: part us twelve months and if not slightly longer depending
Speaker 1: on your different pole. But the bit that is going
Speaker 1: to cause the Prime minister worry, despite the fact there's
Speaker 1: a billion here and a billion there, an announcement every
Speaker 1: single day hoping that somehow people will will run towards
Speaker 1: a prime minister that they've otherwise wanted to throw into
Speaker 1: the bin. Well preferred prime minister. Let's have a look
Speaker 1: at this. Forty three percent for the Prime minister. Forty
Speaker 1: three percent for Peter Dunton. It's the exact same findings
Speaker 1: as the Resolve poll from a few weeks ago, now
Speaker 1: that had them at thirty five each with a much
Speaker 1: bigger undecided number. But look at that number, just four
Speaker 1: percent of Australians still haven't made their mind up, just
Speaker 1: four percent. And as always, if you take undecided split
Speaker 1: it fifty to fifty, well they both end up on
Speaker 1: forty five. Now if it goes you know, three to one,
Speaker 1: well obviously one of them is going to pull ahead here.
Speaker 1: But generally speaking, unless the government is absolutely guaranteed to
Speaker 1: be terf the sitting prime minister remains the preferred prime minister.
Speaker 1: But if the opposition leader overtakes the prime minister, you
Speaker 1: can start to put your bets on with those bookies.
Speaker 1: But the left immediate reinforcements are there. Our old mate
Speaker 1: lefty Laura Tingle, who's been hosting over there on Taxpayer TV. Well,
Speaker 1: she of course, writing in Taxpayer article on the Taxpayer website,
Speaker 1: says that Peter Dunn't can't dodge the spotlight as the
Speaker 1: election draws closer or his unresolved problems. There's something nobody's
Speaker 1: really seen about this guy. That they're willing to put
Speaker 1: level pegging with the current Prime minister. Quote. It feels
Speaker 1: like for all the world that the Coalition is relying
Speaker 1: on the disgruntlement of voters with the government for what
Speaker 1: they are really in for when it comes to tough
Speaker 1: times for a lot of people, rather than actively producing
Speaker 1: serious policies to do nothing about. So she's now having
Speaker 1: a go at the Liberal Party for being too small
Speaker 1: a target, when of course I didn't notice any criticism
Speaker 1: or in fact any reference to what little was offered
Speaker 1: of the small target at the last election of Anthony Abernezi,
Speaker 1: where the promise was this, Remember that the Labor government will
Speaker 1: lower the cost of living. That was the promise. That's
Speaker 1: what they got the job. That's what they sat in
Speaker 1: front of the twenty seven minion Australians as the board
Speaker 1: of directors and say we will lower the cost of living.
Speaker 1: None of that has happened, not one bit of it
Speaker 1: has happened. In fact, everything way higher under this government,
Speaker 1: you know it from everything from the cost of eggs
Speaker 1: all the way through to trying to pay off a house.
Speaker 1: Oh but Laura's not done yet. She's trying to find
Speaker 1: the crack inside the Dutton armor, and she thinks, well,
Speaker 1: to play the old tactic, let's go to the anonymous sources.
Speaker 1: Some believe that Dutton is just not comfortable talking economics.
Speaker 1: These some apparently are members of his own team. Whether
Speaker 1: he is or isn't, there are increasing frustrations among some
Speaker 1: of his colleagues that it needs to be done. This
Speaker 1: is the classic Camber game, right, Oh, the leader doesn't
Speaker 1: have the full support of the team. There's some discriment
Speaker 1: with the tactics that they're putting in place. So then
Speaker 1: all of the camera people turn around and rather than
Speaker 1: talking about the values that have been expressed in the speeches,
Speaker 1: the lies that are there for all to see, the
Speaker 1: failures that also are as clear as they to all Australians. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: the question that comes from the professional political classes Prime
Speaker 1: Minister about what Laura Tingle says, do you have the
Speaker 1: full support of every MP about everything you are ever doing?
Speaker 1: And then the story gets written up Dutton unable to confirm.
Speaker 1: Everyone thinks he is amazing on every point. It's a game.
Speaker 1: It's one of the many games. One of you, the
Speaker 1: many silver bullets that they are going to try to
Speaker 1: fire in the direction of the person who the Poles
Speaker 1: are telling us consistently is now even pegging with the
Speaker 1: Prime Minister who isn't even at the end of his
Speaker 1: first term. I'll explain the issues about why that's the case.
Speaker 1: More polling on that in a moment or two is time.
Speaker 1: But don't forget as well every time when Lifty Laura
Speaker 1: Tingle or the people who are her anonymous sources play
Speaker 1: this game. She thought that Australians response to Peter doesn't
Speaker 1: saying that we need to lower immigration and stop foreign
Speaker 1: buyers being able to buy Australian property for the first
Speaker 1: two years of his Prime ministership. Why he doesn't talk
Speaker 1: about this more often I don't know, but still that
Speaker 1: is his policy. Remember what she thought would happen that
Speaker 1: racist whites would turn on anyone who looked different at
Speaker 1: an auction.
Speaker 3: Major pulling the callity of us be saying, as Nicky says,
Speaker 3: you know everything that's going roll in this country is
Speaker 3: because of my grants, and you know I had a
Speaker 3: sudden flash of people turning out to try to rent
Speaker 3: a property or at an auction and they look a
Speaker 3: bit different. What have you defined different?
Speaker 1: As?
Speaker 3: Basically he has given them licensed.
Speaker 1: To their views whatever, But where are their games. I've
Speaker 1: been around long enough to know how they play them,
Speaker 1: and I can see them coming a mile off. They
Speaker 1: are going to go full personal. They think that they
Speaker 1: can do the full Trump on Morrison and the full
Speaker 1: Morrison on. But they think they can do all of that.
Speaker 1: But when Australians are feeling the way they currently are
Speaker 1: about issues, I don't think they're going to care what
Speaker 1: the lefty establishment is going to try to do. You
Speaker 1: see in the same opinion poll, Let's have a look
Speaker 1: at the issues and what people consider to be the
Speaker 1: priority issues. Put simply, you get people in a room,
Speaker 1: you ask them to mark out of one hundred what
Speaker 1: the number one priority is for them going into the
Speaker 1: next federal election. Have a look at this. Seventy three
Speaker 1: percent say cost a living. What was that promise that
Speaker 1: they made a couple of years ago that things would
Speaker 1: be lower under a labor government. Well, at the end
Speaker 1: of their first term as we head into an election,
Speaker 1: seventy three percent of people say it's a number one issue. Therefore,
Speaker 1: the government has not killed the issue off. In fact,
Speaker 1: in my view, they've made things worse. As I've been
Speaker 1: talking about particularly in our State of the Race segment
Speaker 1: which each every Sunday, we're going to do now and
Speaker 1: I'm really excited about this, which is on Sunday night.
Speaker 1: Michael Krog is going to be here as well as
Speaker 1: somebody from a polling company who's going to tell us
Speaker 1: the research they're getting. And Michael knows all the tactics right.
Speaker 1: And I mentioned that there is a factor in and
Speaker 1: around this election that I think there are people who
Speaker 1: are willing to vote Liberal for the first time in
Speaker 1: their life, or maybe even Greens the first time in
Speaker 1: their life, if they think it is a way of
Speaker 1: their kids being able to afford to home. How you
Speaker 1: work this out, I don't know. We know the federal
Speaker 1: government's position is, oh, will help buy the house for you,
Speaker 1: and then you have to pay us back. Of course,
Speaker 1: do you have to double check with them if you
Speaker 1: have to do renovations or put in an air conditioner.
Speaker 1: Who knows, great idea move on. As for the opposition,
Speaker 1: their position is that the kids should be able to
Speaker 1: use part of their super Why because yes, it'd be
Speaker 1: a chunk of change at the start, but they'll be
Speaker 1: able to rebuild it as the value of their home
Speaker 1: would go up, and ultimately, when you play financial coplunk,
Speaker 1: all of the money ends up working out. I think
Speaker 1: housing is a big issue. This poll again shows us
Speaker 1: that forty two percent of people say that it is
Speaker 1: a very significant issue to them, deeper into the top five. Now, again,
Speaker 1: all of this doesn't have to add up to one
Speaker 1: hundred because it's each issue. How do you rank it
Speaker 1: out of one hundred. The fact that nothing is over
Speaker 1: fifty percent other than cost of living tells you that's
Speaker 1: the election. So the prime ministic can run around with
Speaker 1: the billion here and a billion there and pretending that
Speaker 1: he's going to sure up the sea wall of an
Speaker 1: electorate that he desperately needs to hold on to. But
Speaker 1: if the people who are visiting that sea wall don't
Speaker 1: have enough money to buy ice cream to walk along it,
Speaker 1: guess what's going to happen? Health and social care, managing
Speaker 1: the economy. That's your top four. And guess what is
Speaker 1: now above climate change, crime and social order. Now, of
Speaker 1: those issues, you'd have to say that the change of government, well,
Speaker 1: the vibe would be then with them. When it comes
Speaker 1: to cost of living and managing the economy and crime
Speaker 1: and social order, you'd have to say that towards the
Speaker 1: left would be things like housing and obviously health and
Speaker 1: social care, which is generic issues. But once you start
Speaker 1: to get down to the single figures again, knocked out
Speaker 1: of the top five. The climate change election, the climate
Speaker 1: change war. Guess what the issues are all lining up
Speaker 1: along with where people are telling posters they are planning
Speaker 1: to put their vote, which means one of the smartest
Speaker 1: brains in that Camber Press gallery. And yes, while I
Speaker 1: pet with a very very broad brush, I do save
Speaker 1: just a few little dots here and there for the
Speaker 1: common sense people, including the great Phil Cury writing in
Speaker 1: the Australian Financial Review. You must read his stuff because
Speaker 1: he says here when interpreting the Pole and all of
Speaker 1: the information that I have just given you. Fundamentally, however,
Speaker 1: the Pole remains dire for labor. When looked at as
Speaker 1: a whole, it lags the Coalition and Dutton on every
Speaker 1: meaningful indicator, including economic management and the issue on the
Speaker 1: issue of the management, sorry, of the issues that matter
Speaker 1: most of voters. Moreover, in the last month, during which
Speaker 1: Dutton has pledge universal nine laws, community funding for security,
Speaker 1: cameras and lighting, and law and order has now jumped
Speaker 1: up three points. It's up into fifth. What has it replaced?
Speaker 1: Climate changed down by six and out of the top five.
Speaker 1: This is the most interesting because he's got data that
Speaker 1: I assume they're published in the next couple of days,
Speaker 1: but it tells us who Australian voters are backing on
Speaker 1: the key issues of the five issues, cost of living, housing, health,
Speaker 1: economic management, and law and order. The Coalition has a
Speaker 1: strong double digit lead in four of those areas. Labor
Speaker 1: has a seven point lead in health. Everything else, including housing,
Speaker 1: including the idea of superannuation for your kids to be
Speaker 1: able to afford a home or grandkids. It's all flowing
Speaker 1: Dutton's way. Hence why there will be more attacks. There
Speaker 1: will be more games, there will be more anonymous sources,
Speaker 1: there will be more former ghostly prime ministers who will
Speaker 1: come out to try to tell us all that is terrible.
Speaker 1: Don't forget the Prime minister. The day after the Voice
Speaker 1: was defeated, he fired up the dirt unit. And there
Speaker 1: are plenty of people in and around Australian politics who
Speaker 1: are happy with the arrangements they currently have with the
Speaker 1: current administration. They've got plenty of access and they like
Speaker 1: the way things are. They most likely wouldn't have the
Speaker 1: same access under a new prime minister, so they'll do
Speaker 1: everything they can to a very least benefit of the doubt,
Speaker 1: but most likely spin the ball in the Prime Minister's favor.
Speaker 1: My summer has been nothing but country music. Gonna see
Speaker 1: Luke Combs in Brisbane this weekend, Chris Stapleton, Well, I
Speaker 1: can't wait. He is my new music god. Like wow, incredible,
Speaker 1: mind blown about how amazing he is. And then for
Speaker 1: my kids, which means me too. We've seen Wicked a lot.
Speaker 1: In fact, I've seen Wicked three times. We've already got
Speaker 1: it on the DOV thing so we can watch it
Speaker 1: at home. We've paid that sort of stupid price to
Speaker 1: get My kids love this movie right, They dance, they sing.
Speaker 1: It is such a joy to see your kids, all
Speaker 1: little ones running around after this movie. And yeah it's
Speaker 1: got too much workness, but who cares. They love it,
Speaker 1: which means I love it. Shout out to the girls
Speaker 1: if they're watching right now, and their way to somewhere
Speaker 1: special for the next little while. But we've laughed at
Speaker 1: places like the UK who decide to put ratings that
Speaker 1: make no sense on movies like normally you sort of
Speaker 1: have your PG or your G or your M or
Speaker 1: your m are and it's normally violence, nudity, and that's
Speaker 1: pretty much it. Or swearing no, no no. In the UK,
Speaker 1: this is the warning that UK senses put on wicked discrimination.
Speaker 1: A green skinned woman is mocked, bullied, and humiliated because
Speaker 1: of her skin color. A disabled woman in a wheelchair
Speaker 1: is treated in a condescending manner by able bodied people.
Speaker 1: Talking animals are persecuted in a fantastical thought. It's wicked.
Speaker 1: We've also joked as the Sooks have started to get
Speaker 1: involved with film classics like Gone with the Wind, which
Speaker 1: now come with trigger warnings and people saying that it's
Speaker 1: undeniably racist. Gone with the Wind, of course, now has
Speaker 1: a trigger warning in the United States because of hurtful
Speaker 1: or harmful aspects of the nineteenth century, including slavery, as
Speaker 1: if anyone watching the film now doesn't know that's bad.
Speaker 1: And then there are the people who want to go
Speaker 1: in sense of the books to say not as the
Speaker 1: author wrote, but as the author should write. Now the
Speaker 1: James Bond novels turned into those incredible films fingers cross,
Speaker 1: we get a new James Bond announced this year in
Speaker 1: a film in a couple of years time. I don't
Speaker 1: care where they go as long as it's not woke.
Speaker 1: Remember the James Bond novels were edited to remove racist content. Again,
Speaker 1: just because it exists in the book does not mean
Speaker 1: that you reading it in twenty twenty five go, you
Speaker 1: know what, Right on, let's go back to those days.
Speaker 1: They are the way they are, and we're all grown
Speaker 1: up enough to understand what the flaws of some of
Speaker 1: these things are.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 1: We've laughed when it's the UK, we've rolled our eyes
Speaker 1: when it's the United States. But there's a plan to
Speaker 1: do it here. And I'm not talking about some sort
Speaker 1: of per clutcher. I'm talking about the official body that
Speaker 1: does the classification the censorship in Australia, that declares what
Speaker 1: is G or M, or R or PG. They want
Speaker 1: the ability to get into a time machine and to
Speaker 1: review and change the classifications of everything that's ever been
Speaker 1: released or is available now in Australia, from the very
Speaker 1: first book that came here to the one that's coming
Speaker 1: out tomorrow, the Od's Great one on this today. The
Speaker 1: federal government agency wants to reclassify publications every ten years
Speaker 1: and it's tied a review of Australian classification. It's taught
Speaker 1: a review. Why am I reading so poorly tonight? I apologize?
Speaker 1: They are citing the British census reclassification, so the Brits
Speaker 1: who have a trigger warning about wicked and the green
Speaker 1: Lady isn't treated as well as the pig dress lady.
Speaker 1: My goodness, these are the people who went after Mary popp'ams.
Speaker 1: The Australian Censor says that it needs the power to
Speaker 1: proactively reclassify anarchic books and out of step movies, books
Speaker 1: and TV shows that no longer align with current guidelines
Speaker 1: or community standards. Seriously, a bunch of people want to
Speaker 1: go back and have a look at the films of
Speaker 1: the past and try to put the twenty twenty four
Speaker 1: lefty label on the things that may well have been
Speaker 1: classics or won awards, or launched careers or been part
Speaker 1: of the fabric of our culture. You know how this
Speaker 1: is going to go. But please let me read directly
Speaker 1: from the bureaucrats who are trying to win over the
Speaker 1: federal government to have the opportunity to review everything every
Speaker 1: ten years, which would mean when they got the power
Speaker 1: to do it tomorrow, it'd be everything that has ever been,
Speaker 1: and then they would review those decisions every ten years.
Speaker 5: Provision must be made for a simple mechanism to allow
Speaker 5: for the reclassification of content. With ever evolving community standards
Speaker 5: and a dynamic media environment affecting not only how people
Speaker 5: consume content but also its impact on them, there is
Speaker 5: a need for a flexible and rational approach to reviewing.
Speaker 5: They are archaic and out of step classifications and consumer
Speaker 5: advice for pre obviously classified media.
Speaker 1: Really really, oh, you know, we've got to go back,
Speaker 1: go back to the odd angry shot opening a couple
Speaker 1: of lines, not fantastic, got to go back to those
Speaker 1: war films where they said the Rondom's terrible, terrible, terrible things.
Speaker 1: We've got to put a classification on Wicked because the
Speaker 1: girl in the wheel chair is spoken to in a
Speaker 1: condescending manner. But anyone who actually understands the story understands
Speaker 1: that that's part of an evolution where the people who
Speaker 1: speak to her in a condescending manner need to learn
Speaker 1: not to speak to her in a condescending manner. The
Speaker 1: movie has a message inside it that would solve the
Speaker 1: label that they would put on the wrapping. But no,
Speaker 1: this government said you couldn't be trusted to know what
Speaker 1: the truth was on the incident. And now a bunch
Speaker 1: of people who you do not know, do not see,
Speaker 1: and are definitely not elected, they want the capacity to
Speaker 1: turn around and tell you what you can watch read
Speaker 1: because of its impacts on people. A little bit of pushback. Now,
Speaker 1: this is a story that's around today, but this could
Speaker 1: all be backdoored a couple of days before an election
Speaker 1: where nobody's really looking when we're paying onto everything else,
Speaker 1: when we're paying attention to the overall view, and they're
Speaker 1: moving the grains of sand on the beach. Today on sunrise,
Speaker 1: representatives of both the government and the opposition said, not
Speaker 1: a great idea.
Speaker 6: I myself are not in that camp of rewriting things
Speaker 6: that have been pivotal to my childhood and to yours.
Speaker 6: I think these are fantastic works of art, and I
Speaker 6: love reading some of these books to my kids, and
Speaker 6: I'll continue to do so.
Speaker 1: I'm going to show my bipartisan view. I think Michelle
Speaker 1: Rowlands a pretty good minister, and I don't think that
Speaker 1: that you's going to put up with this garbage. But
Speaker 1: watch wait and will anyone ask anyone in the next
Speaker 1: little while, the Communications Minister, the culture sector of the
Speaker 1: arts minister. We'll all find out together. Now, of course,
Speaker 1: we are just hours away from the end of the
Speaker 1: Biden administration, one that was marked by so much success,
Speaker 1: from falling up the stairs and showing us that gravity
Speaker 1: doesn't matter anymore, through to falling up the stairs and
Speaker 1: showing us that gravity doesn't matter much. And there is
Speaker 1: a scathing pole which has come out today which shows
Speaker 1: that Americans can't mention anything that is good about the
Speaker 1: Biden administration. Hardcore Democrats might be able to, but most
Speaker 1: Americans can't name one success or thing that will remember
Speaker 1: for him doing are you sitting down? Because they can
Speaker 1: remember one thing other than falling up the stairs. The
Speaker 1: US government made an important decision that the Western world
Speaker 1: should have followed but has largely ignored, and it came
Speaker 1: to the plight of the Wiger people being used for
Speaker 1: slave labor in China. Early in his administration, Joe Biden
Speaker 1: passed an executive order which was the banning of importation
Speaker 1: of goods made by slave labor in these camps. Now,
Speaker 1: slave labor generally when it comes to China. Well, we
Speaker 1: can talk about many issues that are there, but certainly
Speaker 1: and specifically the wigas an ethic and religious minority, who
Speaker 1: has persecuted, who's put into re education camps, who are
Speaker 1: forced to work in horrific conditions making things like solar
Speaker 1: panels and wind turbines. This ain't the far right wing
Speaker 1: talking about it. This is the old turnbull times. The
Speaker 1: Guardian has been consistent on this issue, and good on
Speaker 1: them for doing so. Again, I'm sorry a broken clock
Speaker 1: twice a day or in their case half of once
Speaker 1: a week. Well, the Prime Minister and the outgoing president
Speaker 1: of the United States, they've agreed on this. They've agreed
Speaker 1: on that we should do what Biden's doing on climate
Speaker 1: change because Biden's doing it on climate change. We should
Speaker 1: do this on Ukraine because Biden sells us to blockstep
Speaker 1: right general way, if the Americans do it, we should
Speaker 1: do it. And particularly when they are of the same
Speaker 1: political persuasion, that being the center left or left, that
Speaker 1: we should be doing the same thing. Well, as I say,
Speaker 1: there was a clear decision from the United States send
Speaker 1: a message to China. The stuff built by slaves in
Speaker 1: slave labor camps who are there because of the god
Speaker 1: they believe in must not be tolerated by the Western world.
Speaker 1: But of course nothing happened in Australia. In fact, as
Speaker 1: best as I can work out, no one's asked the
Speaker 1: Prime Minister about whether he agrees with this particular position.
Speaker 1: In fact, tumbleweeds would be the best way of describing
Speaker 1: nothing happening on this issue. There are a million people
Speaker 1: who are in these camps. The conditions are horrific and horrible.
Speaker 1: And again, I hope you're sitting down. Don't worry. I'll
Speaker 1: get to Trump and WYMCA in the second But I
Speaker 1: hope you're sitting down because the Guardian followed up today
Speaker 1: and this should have been a much bigger story. This
Speaker 1: might be the first time that you're hearing about it.
Speaker 1: But how's this, despite the fact that Australia it's all
Speaker 1: good about human rights when it comes to other parts
Speaker 1: of the world, we give four feet to bugger all
Speaker 1: about what's happening here because we couldn't dare upset. The
Speaker 1: Chinese could be Prime Minister, then they wouldn't call you
Speaker 1: a handsome boy. Then they might send some messages through
Speaker 1: which that people should vote for somebody else Australia is
Speaker 1: allowing thousands of imports of Chinese companies blacklisted by the
Speaker 1: United States over the alleged links to the forced Wiga
Speaker 1: labor camps, including not just Wind and Solar, but people
Speaker 1: who were involved in supplying parts for the Sydney Metro vehicles.
Speaker 1: These documents obtained by The Guardian under freedom of information laws.
Speaker 1: The Guardian obtained details of three thousand, three hundred and
Speaker 1: forty seven import declarations that name eight US blacklisted companies
Speaker 1: as supplies of materials to Australian importers since twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: The companies ship a ranger products Wind obviously not written
Speaker 1: up by The Guardian there, but still also worth noting
Speaker 1: car batteries, trains, safety gear for tradespeople, spices, food additives
Speaker 1: and even things like laser printers. Now we have a
Speaker 1: federal election. We should have a federal election that is
Speaker 1: not just about you know this, and a little bit
Speaker 1: more about this, a little bit more about this, a
Speaker 1: little bit more about what our ow national values. I
Speaker 1: want to hear from the opposition saying that they would
Speaker 1: pass this ban. I would like some pressure placed upon
Speaker 1: people like Penny Wong. Does she agree with the United
Speaker 1: States position, which as best as I understand, will have
Speaker 1: no change under Trump, that slave labor is not an
Speaker 1: acceptable source of things to import into our country, forced
Speaker 1: save labor. That has Penny Wong come out about any
Speaker 1: of this on her high horse, Well, of course, not
Speaker 1: because there are tumble weeds rolling through every single corridor
Speaker 1: of power. Because we can't dare upset the Chinese. Well,
Speaker 1: bugger it. Just to put a finer point on this,
Speaker 1: just in case you think that I'm a little bit
Speaker 1: too hard to get yet around. This is what has
Speaker 1: happened to people who are inside those camps. Believe me,
Speaker 1: I could show you more that would turn your stomach.
Speaker 1: They were three men, which not as one, but three.
Speaker 1: They did whatever e will their mind could think of,
Speaker 1: and they didn't spare any part of my body. It's disgraceful.
Speaker 1: Where are the voices in Australian politics saying that they
Speaker 1: will not accept these products? Because I don't think that
Speaker 1: you accept these products, and I don't think if you
Speaker 1: knew that we were paying in part at times with
Speaker 1: taxpayers money for the projects. But is it because wind
Speaker 1: and solar are part of what is made there, and
Speaker 1: because we need twenty two thousand solar panels a day.
Speaker 1: It's going to be hard. Look the other way, who's
Speaker 1: making them please? A couple of other things before I
Speaker 1: get to the YMCA and trumpetfort all today. She's exciting.
Speaker 1: Isn't it just one more slop to go middle of
Speaker 1: the night? Who's pulling an all nighter? He'll be on
Speaker 1: TV after that all night and it will be fun.
Speaker 1: May There is a stupid idea which is coming out
Speaker 1: of Victoria where they think they're going to be able
Speaker 1: to guarantee that fuel prices are going to be able
Speaker 1: to stay lower than petro stations want to charge. They're
Speaker 1: going to say that they have to set their prices
Speaker 1: in twenty four hour increments. They can't just change things
Speaker 1: in the middle of the day. Here's what the premier
Speaker 1: says about it.
Speaker 7: We're going to cap and lock those fuel prices. Those
Speaker 7: fuel price fluctuations really are frustrating for motorists. But we
Speaker 7: know that by having the lowest price, finding the lowest
Speaker 7: price and holding it, we do know that that can
Speaker 7: save hundreds of dollars a year for Victorian motors.
Speaker 1: Does anyone actually believe that if you are forced to
Speaker 1: lock in your price they're going to lock it in
Speaker 1: at the low level, or they'll lock it in at
Speaker 1: the high level. Of course, she doesn't care. She just
Speaker 1: wanted something to announce today. Speaking of Grimjim Charmers his
Speaker 1: rivers of gold which have come to the federal budget,
Speaker 1: which is meant, yes, there has been surpluss the past
Speaker 1: couple of years, largely comes from that evil mining industry,
Speaker 1: specifically iron ore. We learned today iron ore may well
Speaker 1: go down by thirty percent. If that does, billions and
Speaker 1: billions and billions of dollars disappear from the federal budget,
Speaker 1: meaning all of those extra promises will have to be
Speaker 1: paid for by borrowed money, even more borrowed money. And
Speaker 1: if one of your dreams is to travel from one
Speaker 1: side of the country to another by train, you would
Speaker 1: know the Indian Pacific. It is one of those incredible journeys.
Speaker 1: It's one that I'd love to do before I go.
Speaker 1: In fact, let's do a week of shows from there,
Speaker 1: just a night here into the future. If anyone wants
Speaker 1: to sponsor, feel free, Paul, it's gonews dot com that
Speaker 1: are you. And this is that the India Pacific's actually
Speaker 1: getting longer. In fact, the itinery for the epic four
Speaker 1: three hundred and fifty two kilometer Indian Pacific Rail Odyssey,
Speaker 1: which goes from Perth the Sydney, has been extended by
Speaker 1: another five days and four nights, from sixty five hours
Speaker 1: in total from one side to the other to now
Speaker 1: ninety hours. It means you'll be able to have more
Speaker 1: off train experiences. They haven't built more track, They're just
Speaker 1: going to stop in different places. In Ghouli in Western Australia,
Speaker 1: Cook which is a remote part of South Australia, which
Speaker 1: is just on the edge of the null board, the
Speaker 1: Barossa Valley, and South Australia. Broken Hill, Oh how much
Speaker 1: we love Broken Hill and the Blue Mountains in New
Speaker 1: South Wales. So if you get the chance the Indian Pacific,
Speaker 1: I think from now longer journey than ever before, enjoy
Speaker 1: yourself and again one day imagine doing a week of
Speaker 1: shows from a train. Oh sorry, boss, it doesn't work tonight,
Speaker 1: see you tomorrow. No, we'll be there. We'll find a
Speaker 1: way to do the tech. We're very good at that.
Speaker 1: And as I say, tonight, Christmas Eve for Trump fans,
Speaker 1: people who have hoped that he'd be able to defeat
Speaker 1: Kamala Harris and have celebrated the fact that he did.
Speaker 1: We all know the reset that is coming and will
Speaker 1: be here by this time tomorrow night four a m.
Speaker 1: Australian est, and daylight time is midday in the United States.
Speaker 1: That's when he will take the oath of office. He
Speaker 1: of course, gave speeches today in Washington, DC, a victory
Speaker 1: rally where it was the greatest hits not just of
Speaker 1: everything you said on the campaign trial, but many of
Speaker 1: the people who joined him on it. He said, this.
Speaker 8: Radical and foolish executive order of the Biden administration will
Speaker 8: be repealed.
Speaker 1: Within hours of when I take the oath of office.
Speaker 1: Then he said this, we.
Speaker 8: Are going to make public remaining records relating to the
Speaker 8: assassinations of President John F.
Speaker 1: Kennedy, his brother.
Speaker 8: Robert Kennedy, as well as doctor Martin Luther King Junior.
Speaker 1: That's going to be fun to read. We might do
Speaker 1: an entire hour on each of those. That is fascinating
Speaker 1: to say everything the American government knows about those topics.
Speaker 1: File open file released, fascinating. But of course the highlight
Speaker 1: was this, Come on, everybody, it's funnestay it.
Speaker 2: See fund state, you see.
Speaker 1: Till con get to sell me. Ah good is it?
Speaker 1: How good is it? I hope that's on his phone.
Speaker 1: Imagine there he's sitting having a chat with the President
Speaker 1: of China and well names just one second, one second,
Speaker 1: President of Jana, I've got an important call. One of
Speaker 1: the interesting speakers that was at that rally today is
Speaker 1: our very own Megan Kelly. She's on the show later
Speaker 1: this week about her experience there in lead up to DC,
Speaker 1: but she also had a warning, and it is a
Speaker 1: really important warning for those of us who want Trump
Speaker 1: to succeed. All the people who hate him still hate him.
Speaker 1: All the people who work inside the government who will
Speaker 1: try to stop him will still do so. He has
Speaker 1: a greater mandate, he has a biggest sledgehammer, He has
Speaker 1: more support than ever before. But her words important the
Speaker 1: night before Christmas. Stay strong. We haven't won the war.
Speaker 1: We're winning. We wont a bunch of battles.
Speaker 9: But he's going to need all of you every step
Speaker 9: of the way.
Speaker 6: We're going to have to be patient, We're gonna have
Speaker 6: to steal our spines.
Speaker 1: Do not bend, never bow.
Speaker 4: What I say is what.
Speaker 1: What do you teach us? Fight? Fight, fight, win, win
Speaker 1: win and how are those lefties taking it? The day
Speaker 1: before Christmas in DC.
Speaker 9: Four Politics, seven.
Speaker 1: Souks, four am straight in eastern daylight time. That is
Speaker 1: when the swearing will take place, full coverage both before
Speaker 1: throughout the night via our colleagues in the United Kingdom
Speaker 1: and at three am. The Australian version of it kicks
Speaker 1: in Chris Kenny, who showed the day out of DC
Speaker 1: perfect perfect, great guests, great angles. He was spectacular today.
Speaker 1: He anlys Neilson, Tom Connell and of course Pete all
Speaker 1: there before, during and after. And I'll joined both Pete
Speaker 1: and Laura again when you wake up tomorrow morning, quick
Speaker 1: break back with more plenty to fire up about here,
Speaker 1: No sooks, no lefties, and our made diary before we're done.
Speaker 1: Thanks for watching, Paul Murray life, No sicks, no lefties,
Speaker 1: just our mates Tonight the Great James Morrow, who's doing
Speaker 1: double duty with us now they don't fit in watching
Speaker 1: the inauguration that he's on Telly Tomorrow, Merry Christmas Eve,
Speaker 1: very Christmasy outside of us report and all things good
Speaker 1: at the Daily Telegraph. Matt Canavan joining us as well. Matt,
Speaker 1: are you doing the all nighter? Will you be there
Speaker 1: watching everything from the moments before to the hours after.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I don't know if it's like Christmas Eve, but
Speaker 9: there's not not a sound in the house and everybody's
Speaker 9: in anticipation. I'm not sure about that. But yeah, no,
Speaker 9: I did break out the Trump Place mats tonight for
Speaker 9: dinner with the family. Celebrate.
Speaker 1: Oh tremendous. Okay, just just let's just let's just pause.
Speaker 1: The internet can can cut that up and can lose
Speaker 1: their brain, and we don't care because this is a
Speaker 1: nice little time, all right, James hit the ground running.
Speaker 1: I think Meghan Kelly's warning is really important, which is, look,
Speaker 1: there is there very quick, very soon. Right, But what
Speaker 1: are you looking forward to most about the early hours
Speaker 1: of two point zero.
Speaker 8: Well, I mean, the great thing is going to be
Speaker 8: to see this list of executive orders that's going to
Speaker 8: come out. I suspect I'm not going to agree with
Speaker 8: every single thing that he is going to want to
Speaker 8: do there. I definitely disagree with him on the TikTok stuff.
Speaker 8: I think that's a really big point of difference there.
Speaker 8: But you know, let's focus on, you know, all the
Speaker 8: wins in here. I want to see the complete shake
Speaker 8: up reforms, detonating government agencies. I want to see DEI
Speaker 8: departments blown up. I want to see all of that
Speaker 8: stuff done. I want to see the immigreats historically. I
Speaker 8: want to say all of those sorts of things done.
Speaker 8: Stamp makes mark the big thing I want to see
Speaker 8: short term. I want to see that he has learned
Speaker 8: his lessons from twenty sixteen about the different ways the
Speaker 8: swamp can absolutely destroy his agenda ed. I think they
Speaker 8: have learned that. Lesson the long term thing, Paul I
Speaker 8: want to see, I want to see a restoration of
Speaker 8: that broad, prosperous American middle class. And that is what
Speaker 8: he promises. That's what he has to do. Everything has
Speaker 8: to ultimately focus on that. The big danger very quickly though,
Speaker 8: is that they're going to live trust him. They have
Speaker 8: gone RD markets set up to make it impossible to
Speaker 8: spend money.
Speaker 1: It's all get hit tomorrow tomorrow.
Speaker 8: So just watch the financial markets. That's that is going
Speaker 8: to be the first playbook right out.
Speaker 1: Very good point. Now, Also for you, Matt, what do
Speaker 1: you want to see? What are you most looking forward to?
Speaker 1: Not the ceremony all the rest of it. But then
Speaker 1: let's get on with this here what do you want
Speaker 1: to see happen?
Speaker 9: Let's I just want to see the end of this
Speaker 9: paris ridiculous climate agreement. That's a big handbreak on the
Speaker 9: industrialized world. I mean James mentioned TikTok. You know that's
Speaker 9: our information flowing through to China. But the whole climate
Speaker 9: scheme that we've lived under this last decade has just
Speaker 9: sent our jobs to China, sent our industry, sent our manufacturing,
Speaker 9: and Donald Trump's already turned that around. All the major
Speaker 9: banks now getting out of this rubbish. The problem for us,
Speaker 9: The risk for us though, is that we we stay
Speaker 9: beholden to this bankrupt out of data gender on net zero,
Speaker 9: like holding on too like a shag on a rock
Speaker 9: as the waves crash over us. So that's my concern
Speaker 9: here is America is going to get a leaps about
Speaker 9: ahead abound on us. It's not just China, it's going
Speaker 9: to be competing with us. America will be ahead of
Speaker 9: us and we'll get left behind. So we've got to
Speaker 9: get with the program and ourselves get out of this
Speaker 9: agreement so we can remove costs from Australian business, get
Speaker 9: back to having cheap energy prices and rebuild our manufacturing sector.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, really important, right is that you know, I
Speaker 1: know the green shoots, I know the feelings, all the
Speaker 1: rest of it. Right, work is still deeply entrenched in Australia,
Speaker 1: all right. America is way further down the track than
Speaker 1: we are. I think we're closer to England and Canada,
Speaker 1: where this stuff is baked in and baked in and
Speaker 1: baked in. One of the things I most look forward
Speaker 1: to about the Trump presidency. Why I support the Trump candidacy,
Speaker 1: why I support some Trump is in general is everything
Speaker 1: else gets to be disrupted, but the established order of
Speaker 1: things is never allowed to be disrupted. It is to
Speaker 1: be disrupted. It needs to be disrupted because anyone who's
Speaker 1: been a place like America, sees the food lines, or
Speaker 1: sees the overuse of censorship, knows that there is deep
Speaker 1: things that need to be broken up and rebuilt. I
Speaker 1: look forward to all of that. So, Matt, what the
Speaker 1: hell is green aluminium and why does it get two
Speaker 1: billion dollars as the Prime Minister spends a billion here
Speaker 1: and a billion there every day? Yeah.
Speaker 9: Look, a lot of your viewers might not know too
Speaker 9: much about the eluminium sector. Just one hundred odds so
Speaker 9: kilometers south of me is one of our large aluminium
Speaker 9: smelters that basically powers a town of Gladson. Without the
Speaker 9: eleminium smelter there the industrial center of glass and probably
Speaker 9: wouldn't be there. All of our aluminium smelters, largely owned
Speaker 9: by Rio Tinto, in the last few years, have gone woke,
Speaker 9: have gone green, how we've been saying, and they've been
Speaker 9: telling us all that they can keep going in the
Speaker 9: future without using dirty coal, which is what has fuelled
Speaker 9: them to date. They're going to install massive amounts of
Speaker 9: solar panels and winds destroy our environment, but they say
Speaker 9: power their aluminium smelters as green aluminium going into the future.
Speaker 9: Of course we've been told that that's cheaper. We're constantly
Speaker 9: told by our government, by the Prime Minister, by Crispo.
Speaker 1: And that renewable energy is cheaper.
Speaker 9: Well, if it is cheaper, why does green aluminium need
Speaker 9: a two billion dollar subsidy that the prime ministers are
Speaker 9: now today If it actually is cheaper, how is it
Speaker 9: the case that we could run and build and produce
Speaker 9: aluminium as a wealth generating product when we had just
Speaker 9: coal fired power. But now we've all got to pay
Speaker 9: your taxes have to go to this two billion dollar
Speaker 9: fun to bail out some of the biggest companies in
Speaker 9: the world like Rio Tinto. Why are we subsidizing their
Speaker 9: green addiction on woke esg rubbish. It's costing us all.
Speaker 9: If it doesn't cost us how manufacturing industries, it costs
Speaker 9: us through higher taxes. That's why I look forward to
Speaker 9: all of this ending. It has to end to save
Speaker 9: us money.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and this stuff's not in the budget, right, This
Speaker 1: is why they were able to say, oh, we're close
Speaker 1: to this. The reality is all of it off budget.
Speaker 1: They're still paid for you and I still pay for it.
Speaker 1: But it's also of investment money. Jan well An.
Speaker 8: You know the thing is, you know, look all these
Speaker 8: big companies, not just the industrial companies, also the big
Speaker 8: data companies and all that in the United States. You know,
Speaker 8: they're going all in. They're going all in on nuclear,
Speaker 8: they're going all in on all these other technologies, and
Speaker 8: they are not looking to the government for a handout.
Speaker 8: And I think here, you know, these companies they're already.
Speaker 1: Going down the green road.
Speaker 8: And the really interesting thing here, Paul, is that we've
Speaker 8: got the situation where labor has created a situation where
Speaker 8: everybody is now on the public teach. So at the
Speaker 8: top end you've got the companies with the green subsidies
Speaker 8: and the future Made in Australia. You know, down the
Speaker 8: track you've got everybody who's doing work for the ndis
Speaker 8: on triple the money that they'd be getting in the
Speaker 8: regular country. Gonna be halfway. And Bill Schwarden said that
Speaker 8: was like a good thing. I mean, I don't know
Speaker 8: how that works, but you know the thing is, this
Speaker 8: is a big challenge for Peter Dutton now, like everybody
Speaker 8: now has a stake in this gravy train reform is hard.
Speaker 8: That means a losers and b having to work hard
Speaker 8: to be creative, to be productive, and it's like we're
Speaker 8: losing an abil to do that here.
Speaker 1: Well, this is the thing what I am liking about
Speaker 1: Dutton's speeches. And I thought the one in Brisbane was
Speaker 1: a mile in front of the one that was in Melbourne,
Speaker 1: and Melbourne was pretty good, right, which is starting to
Speaker 1: talk about broad values right now, as I've said, the
Speaker 1: experiment of Daniel Andrews and Palische and all of that, right,
Speaker 1: which is, if you either work for the government or
Speaker 1: you're dependent on the government, or the biggest company or
Speaker 1: your biggest customer is the government. You end up talking
Speaker 1: about seventy five percent of the people in and therefore
Speaker 1: any mention of pullback, well, then people started to set
Speaker 1: their hair on fire. What have you thought of these
Speaker 1: speeches that Dune's been made.
Speaker 8: Look, I've been watching them very closely. I think that
Speaker 8: he is on a winner here. I think the broad
Speaker 8: theme here is that he is falling in line with
Speaker 8: other center right leaders in the West and in the
Speaker 8: English speaking world, and that is you know, the thing
Speaker 8: is strategically here, for he can come up with policies,
Speaker 8: but they will be beta scared to death right, So
Speaker 8: anything he wants to do, they're going to blow him
Speaker 8: up on the policy. But Labor can't fight on a positive, productive,
Speaker 8: prosperous vision of Australia because they want a dependent, negative
Speaker 8: view of Australia and Australian possibilities. You know, That's why
Speaker 8: the best Albanezer can do is see, oh, well, we're
Speaker 8: a caring society, but that's not a productive or of
Speaker 8: prosperous society. And those are the things you need to
Speaker 8: ultimately really be truly caring.
Speaker 1: Well done in the speech in Brisbane specific quote here,
Speaker 1: I want to say, these are the three questions. Are
Speaker 1: you better off than you were two and a half
Speaker 1: years ago? Do you feel safer than you were two
Speaker 1: and a half years ago? Is the country more cohesive
Speaker 1: than it was two and a half years ago? Well? No, no, no, right,
Speaker 1: we all know what the answers are and all of that.
Speaker 1: Matt about where I was on these important Chinese products
Speaker 1: made by the forced labor in these Wiga camps. Why
Speaker 1: can't Australia take the same position that even Joe Biden
Speaker 1: could come to, which is no, this that's not a laddie.
Speaker 1: Well we can.
Speaker 9: In fact, Satata Ralph Babett asked a very good question
Speaker 9: of Penny Wong about this almost two just over two
Speaker 9: years ago actually September twenty twenty two. He asked her, well, look,
Speaker 9: Joe Biden's band, these soul companies for using slave labor,
Speaker 9: why can't we do the same. Pennywong actually said it
Speaker 9: was a very good question, and she said, look, this
Speaker 9: was the newly elected and she said we're going to,
Speaker 9: unlike the former go but we're going to look at
Speaker 9: the modern Slavery Act to do this and make sure
Speaker 9: no one's using forced labor and the supply chains well.
Speaker 9: Of course, as the Guardian has show and congratulate the Guardian,
Speaker 9: you won't hear me, so that too often congrated the Guardian.
Speaker 9: It's an excellent piece of work. But they've done nothing
Speaker 9: on this despite Pennywong statements. And here you've got a
Speaker 9: situation where I think the Labor Party can't do this
Speaker 9: because it is addicted to the cheap forced labor produced,
Speaker 9: slave labor produced solar panels out of the Xinjiang Province
Speaker 9: of China.
Speaker 1: Its whole energy plan.
Speaker 9: It rests on the fact of getting these cheapest in
Speaker 9: the world solar panels made by slave labor. How can
Speaker 9: that be ethical at all? It doesn't even deliver us
Speaker 9: cheap priceses we know for other reasons. But even if
Speaker 9: it did, we can't do that. Why are we doing
Speaker 9: that as a civilized.
Speaker 1: Const while simultaneously China the producers many many more or
Speaker 1: thirty more times pollution than we do. They don't even
Speaker 1: have to say that, would hear the same things we've
Speaker 1: signed up to till twenty thirty. So that gets back
Speaker 1: to the Paris conversation. Thank you lads, do appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Have a wonderful night and we look forward to your
Speaker 1: coverage tomorrow. James here on air, and no doubt Matt
Speaker 1: will be tweeting away in the middle of the night.
Speaker 1: Keep an eye out for Matt Canavan on x Quick
Speaker 1: Break Back with more Dayly, what's really going on in
Speaker 1: Western Sydney and how can she beat labor again? Mike,
Speaker 1: who watches the show each and every night in Western Australia.
Speaker 1: He sends me an email last night. He says, I'm
Speaker 1: a compulsive viewer of the show, but I couldn't help
Speaker 1: but notice you've not had the big Gausie flag in
Speaker 1: the background, mate, Please reinstate it into view. Well, it's
Speaker 1: always been on the set all year, but I have
Speaker 1: moved a little bit around, which means the cameras move
Speaker 1: around a little bit. But you may will have noticed
Speaker 1: tonight right back next to the screen. So every time
Speaker 1: we try to show you the things, you'll see the flag.
Speaker 1: Where As Ossie is ever before speaking of the wonderful
Speaker 1: dial League, she's worn an Australian flag and that's the
Speaker 1: lady who's going to be right there front and center
Speaker 1: in Australia Day celebrations as well. In and around her
Speaker 1: elector at Foula. She joins us now from her office
Speaker 1: in Canley Heights and Western Sydney. Die, I love you
Speaker 1: to see you, mate. You're ready for election number two.
Speaker 4: Oh look, I think I got ready the day after
Speaker 4: I got elected. So I've been working talking about the flagpole.
Speaker 4: I've got a little doll behind me. I don't mean
Speaker 4: you can see with.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, it's you. Yeah, I love it. Yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: that's sick. That's get somebody who's sent another one, and
Speaker 1: I'll put it right up behind me as well. So okay,
Speaker 1: let's talk about your fight for foul Yes, obviously you
Speaker 1: were the KK killer. That was awesome, right. I believe
Speaker 1: that you of the community, no doubt, in my view,
Speaker 1: the best option for Fouler for many many terms to come.
Speaker 1: But Labor have tried to do everything from who they're
Speaker 1: pre selected to how the map of the seat's going
Speaker 1: to work. Is the hill a little steeper, is it
Speaker 1: a little softer? What's the hill like for you this time? Look?
Speaker 4: The hill is the hill?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 4: The new boundaries have brought in a suburb of weather
Speaker 4: Or Park, which is a very strong, good suburb actually
Speaker 4: for me, and it's in the parks and what we
Speaker 4: call the parks world if you look at the fair
Speaker 4: For City Council map, and you know, I do really
Speaker 4: well there as well. So I went door knocking there
Speaker 4: and so many people were so excited that they're no
Speaker 4: longer were part of McMahon and of the Minnesota Energy
Speaker 4: Chris Bowen. They were so glad that I became their MP.
Speaker 4: So yeah, looks it's still though, you know, people are
Speaker 4: still struggling with the cost of living with when I
Speaker 4: went door knocking talking about the rising cost of energy bills,
Speaker 4: the rising cost of rent and for mortgages for people
Speaker 4: who have had thirteen seen the thirteen you know rises
Speaker 4: and interest rates. So yeah, people are still struggling a lot.
Speaker 4: So Paul, Yeah, I mean that's just my community out here.
Speaker 1: And yeah, so I mean die obviously. You know we've
Speaker 1: shown you on the program talking about fuel prices, talking
Speaker 1: about insurance actually you know, taking the ball right up
Speaker 1: to them each and every day in Parliament. So you've
Speaker 1: been an absolute advocate for the community on those issues.
Speaker 1: Do they say much back to you about what they
Speaker 1: think of the government and its efforts? You know, my
Speaker 1: conclusion is too little too late on tax cards. My
Speaker 1: conclusion is, you know, a billion here, a billion there,
Speaker 1: but none of it really changes anyone's life. What does
Speaker 1: Western Sydney tell you that? Presumably they're telling Chris Bowen,
Speaker 1: but Chris Bowen ain't going to be telling anyone publicly
Speaker 1: what the door knocking is happening in that part of Australia.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Look, I've been door knocking since April last year, Paul,
Speaker 4: and I think it hasn't a change in terms of
Speaker 4: the sentiment of the residents in the electoral Fowler which
Speaker 4: covers obviously Faith for City Council and part of Liverpool
Speaker 4: cityl And you know, even today there was a comment
Speaker 4: on my Facebook page of a resident who said, you know,
Speaker 4: I've been in such a long time labor voter, but
Speaker 4: the work that you and of course our mayor Frank
Speaker 4: Carboni have done, they have never seen before that we
Speaker 4: are constantly out there being very strong advocate for our community.
Speaker 4: In my door knocking, people have said how much they
Speaker 4: are suffering in terms of mental distress. A lot of
Speaker 4: them are telling me they have to look for two
Speaker 4: jobs because energy price has gone up, insurance price and
Speaker 4: I have spoken on your program before about you know,
Speaker 4: I think long before anybody talked about the rising cost
Speaker 4: of insurance as well, and of course constantly talking to
Speaker 4: you about petrol prices and that is still an issue,
Speaker 4: and I think that's where the government really were stubborn
Speaker 4: in not, you know, bringing forth the few excise tas
Speaker 4: to give that short term you reprieve for people. Majority
Speaker 4: of Australians and a lot of us are still driving
Speaker 4: cars out here. And I know I was just speaking
Speaker 4: to your camera and you like to come from Western
Speaker 4: Sydney to go into the city, to go anywhere, we
Speaker 4: have to go through many tolls. We have to pay
Speaker 4: a lot in petrol and in terms of that and
Speaker 4: then of course it costs them in cast insurance have
Speaker 4: gone up as well, the premium. So honestly, our community
Speaker 4: out here are really feeling the brunt of it. And
Speaker 4: in my door knocking, I don't believe door knocked so
Speaker 4: many suburbs. There has not been one person who's set
Speaker 4: to me, what this government is doing is good for them.
Speaker 4: And a lot of them actually are labor voters who said,
Speaker 4: you know what, I cannot believe a voted later labor
Speaker 4: last time, which meant at the last federal election.
Speaker 9: They did not vote for me.
Speaker 8: That's it.
Speaker 4: No more, no more. People are saying, you.
Speaker 1: Know, yeah they're coming together.
Speaker 4: You know they're not better off.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Sorry, we've got a little satellite delay. Be lave
Speaker 1: it or not. It happens from the man Cave to
Speaker 1: where you are right now. Well, all the best of Heath,
Speaker 1: who is the cameraman bringing us to you this evening,
Speaker 1: and all the best to you. Die will talk many
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Speaker 1: of the world, help keep Fowler independent. Thank you, Die,
Speaker 1: Happy Australia Day. That's our show for tonight. See you
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