Speaker 1: Just put my new bloody phone charger thing going. I
Speaker 1: get a team. It's the project, that's you, It's it's
Speaker 1: me in the bloody studio. It's Tiff in the bloody studio,
Speaker 1: Kelly and the other studio, with an orange case over
Speaker 1: her right shoulder, just to remind us that she's a
Speaker 1: jet setterer, world traveler, just to prompt me so that
Speaker 1: I would ask her about her international jet setting. We'll
Speaker 1: get to that in a moment. Bragging bragster over there
Speaker 1: with a European tan, Tiff, how are you?
Speaker 2: I'm good, Probably not as good as cal, but I'm
Speaker 2: pretty good. I'm pretty good.
Speaker 1: Well, it's been a long time since you and I
Speaker 1: caught up about twenty seven minutes ago when we had
Speaker 1: gillespion and you were jowing into a carrot like fucking
Speaker 1: bugs Bunny in the background. There have you done anything
Speaker 1: to satisfy that insatiable stomach of yours?
Speaker 2: Set? Thank goodness. I went and whoped myself up some dinner,
Speaker 2: so I'm much more tolerable now. I was pretty good though,
Speaker 2: running on a carrot.
Speaker 1: What you like when you're starving, like you know, when
Speaker 1: you're like out of control starving is there anything particularly particular,
Speaker 1: like good or bad, healthier, not, doesn't matter where you're Like, fuck,
Speaker 1: I could just killer a whatever, a burger, lasagna, Like
Speaker 1: what is what is your go to? If it didn't
Speaker 1: have a negative impact, Like.
Speaker 2: You could just cook me up the road from Hey,
Speaker 2: they're cookie. They're the best things you've ever eaten in
Speaker 2: your whole life.
Speaker 1: So when you're hungry, you would rather something sweet than savory.
Speaker 2: No, no, that's not true. That's not true. I just
Speaker 2: like I like like steak and stir fried veg or
Speaker 2: fish and stuff frovege I like to like. I like
Speaker 2: meat and beg. I like steak, I like salmon, I
Speaker 2: like fish. Basic. I don't like pasta, and I don't
Speaker 2: really I don't mind lazania, but I don't have it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm all about flavor, like whether it's chicken or
Speaker 1: beef or turkey, or it's got to be swimming in
Speaker 1: something that's an awesome flavor, Like eating a bit of
Speaker 1: steak that's doesn't just does not do it for me. No, No,
Speaker 1: I'm all about the flavor. And yeah, like and do
Speaker 1: you know what like my go to right now? Because
Speaker 1: I'm hungry right now. But I'm not hungry like you get.
Speaker 1: But if I could just have you know, when you
Speaker 1: play cards sometimes, Kelly, and you can use a joker
Speaker 1: and that's like a wild card, and that can be anything,
Speaker 1: like I reckon my wild card with food where you
Speaker 1: could eat anything you want but the calories don't count.
Speaker 1: Would be at this point in time, a really good hamburger.
Speaker 1: I say that, egg, cheese, onion, barbecue sauce, big fat meat,
Speaker 1: paddy fucking white bun toasted with butter on it, caramelized onions.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, gidyap, that's like school. I feel horrendous, but yeah, kel,
Speaker 1: what's yours?
Speaker 3: Mine would be lasagna, absolutely, Like I would eat the
Speaker 3: whole tray. Just give me a fork in the tray
Speaker 3: and leave me alone for like an hour and done.
Speaker 1: Has it got that besher moll source on it?
Speaker 4: It does?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, that's that's the Shit's My mum makes that.
Speaker 1: But it's about unlike most you know, how you go
Speaker 1: some places you get beef lasagna, it's about ten percent
Speaker 1: beef and ninety percent everything else. I'm like, Mary makes
Speaker 1: like this one, and it's it's about fifty percent meat.
Speaker 1: It's the best thing ever. Yeah, you'd love it. You
Speaker 1: know what else we've spoken about before we get into
Speaker 1: the actual show proper. Melissa and I have had this
Speaker 1: conversation and we think there's a word that's lacking in
Speaker 1: the English language, and the word I don't know what
Speaker 1: the word is. If anyone's got just an idea, just
Speaker 1: just send it in to the you Project Facebook page.
Speaker 1: But you know, when you're real hungry and then you
Speaker 1: get something and you finally get food, but it doesn't
Speaker 1: hit the spot. It's like it doesn't you know, you
Speaker 1: wanted something fucking yummy and you're like, you eat it
Speaker 1: and it's like you've just come home and it's like
Speaker 1: heaven and like, oh my god, this is amazing, right,
Speaker 1: and that's what you want. But you're hungry and you
Speaker 1: get the meal and it's just it's a three out
Speaker 1: of ten. So you get the calories that you wanted,
Speaker 1: but not the satisfaction or the dopamine, not the joy,
Speaker 1: not the mouth but the mouth gasm as I call it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And so there's this disappointment that comes with eating a
Speaker 1: meal that's not satisfying, but you've fucked it up because
Speaker 1: now you're not hungry, right, so you can't go eat again.
Speaker 1: There's that disappointment around food. We need a name for
Speaker 1: that because it's like, you know, taste bud nirvana. What's
Speaker 1: the opposite of that when you get the calories but
Speaker 1: not the joy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the opposite of a food DoSM Yes?
Speaker 1: Anyway, more on that later. We probably don't need to.
Speaker 1: I don't know why I opened that door. It's just
Speaker 1: I think about food too much. So what just before
Speaker 1: we actually talk about what? What did you have for dinners?
Speaker 2: If I had fish? I had fish and some some
Speaker 2: stir fryed veggies and you know what I had that?
Speaker 2: I haven't had for ages? Corn on the cob.
Speaker 1: Wow? How did you did you steam that?
Speaker 2: What did you do with I sted it? I haven't
Speaker 2: had that feet I can't well, I couldn't tell you
Speaker 2: how long it reminded me of like being at NaN's
Speaker 2: or something. That's how long did you.
Speaker 1: Ever used to use the word yonk when you were
Speaker 1: a kid. We haven't had it for yonks?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I still use that.
Speaker 1: What do you mean you how long is it yonk exactly?
Speaker 1: Is it yon months? Or is it yon years?
Speaker 4: It's kind of open, isn't it.
Speaker 1: It's not it's not. It's not that different to smidge
Speaker 1: or tad or morsel, you know all those like what's
Speaker 1: big a smidge, a tad, a frag Kelly, how was
Speaker 1: your international jet setting?
Speaker 4: It was amazing, it was every day, it was incredible.
Speaker 1: So how long were you away?
Speaker 2: For?
Speaker 4: Just under three weeks?
Speaker 1: All right, we don't have that long light. We're not
Speaker 1: going to do the show on your trip, but give
Speaker 1: us two highlights to memories that will be forever etched
Speaker 1: in your little brain or your big brain. So any
Speaker 1: it could be any highlight, anything.
Speaker 4: Any highlight.
Speaker 3: So we banded together and we rented a boat one
Speaker 3: day with someone who knew how to drive the boat,
Speaker 3: and we went around the Malfy coast.
Speaker 4: That was quite incredible.
Speaker 3: So it was like the water was the color of
Speaker 3: blue I haven't never ever seen before in my life.
Speaker 1: And can I say on behalf of the men, I'm
Speaker 1: sorry to interrupt because all the bloke's gone, yeah, the cool,
Speaker 1: cool story. What kind of boat though?
Speaker 3: It was a boat that had a steering wheel, and
Speaker 3: it was a boat this, I mean this was down.
Speaker 3: It wasn't a yacht it was and it wasn't like
Speaker 3: a little tug boat.
Speaker 4: It was kind of it was in between. It was
Speaker 4: a boat, it had a motor on it.
Speaker 1: Fucking worst story ever on extendable Roots.
Speaker 3: So we didn't get you know, burnt in that you know,
Speaker 3: hot Italian sun that we were having.
Speaker 1: To was Was it okay? So forget the boat? But
Speaker 1: was it beautiful?
Speaker 4: It was beautiful. It was absolutely beautiful.
Speaker 3: And I'm not normally a beachy person, but even I
Speaker 3: swam in that water.
Speaker 4: So wow, that was quite incredible.
Speaker 1: Are you not beachy because you're a ranger?
Speaker 4: Pretty much? Pretty much?
Speaker 1: So imagine like sixty six percent of the people sixty
Speaker 1: six point six percent recurring people on this podcast. Of
Speaker 1: the people on this podcast, I rang us or as
Speaker 1: we used to say, fan of pants. But you can't
Speaker 1: say that anymore. So I'm not going to say that.
Speaker 1: I can't say that at all.
Speaker 4: No, I don't say that. It's not either.
Speaker 1: That could be the name of the show. Oh there's
Speaker 1: so many things that I could say. Now I won't.
Speaker 1: Well again, she just opened the door. Now, all right,
Speaker 1: So you're coming on the show, that's right to ask
Speaker 1: some questions to You're basically the host for the next
Speaker 1: half hour or so. Have you been had you thinking,
Speaker 1: cap on mile you're away.
Speaker 4: I did.
Speaker 3: So there was a lot of really interesting people that
Speaker 3: I met. One of them we did this bike ride
Speaker 3: just out of Rome and we got to go and
Speaker 3: see all of the ancient aqueducts, which was really cool.
Speaker 3: And the host of the or the tour guide of
Speaker 3: the bike ride, his name was Lorenzo. He was this
Speaker 3: really cool dude and we got to chatting and he
Speaker 3: said that he was currently studying his second university degree
Speaker 3: and was now moving into what he called sports science.
Speaker 3: And I said to him, well, I'm going to have
Speaker 3: to introduce you to the Year Project, and you know,
Speaker 3: you'll have to, you know, listen to this and see
Speaker 3: what you get out of it. But he was he
Speaker 3: was really fascinating in the way that he was talking
Speaker 3: about I just believe that you need to keep moving
Speaker 3: your body every day otherwise, you know, you just you
Speaker 3: stop your diet, like there's no point in not moving
Speaker 3: your body. And he was telling me how, you know,
Speaker 3: he was meeting people that were like in their twenties
Speaker 3: and they could barely pedal even though it was an
Speaker 3: e bike. And then he had some dudes that were
Speaker 3: like eighty five years old, and by the end of
Speaker 3: the bike ride he would check the batteries and the
Speaker 3: batteries hadn't been touched because the eighty five year olds
Speaker 3: were so fit, and so he said that, you know,
Speaker 3: he was spending like his life's purpose was to study
Speaker 3: how bodies work. But then also combine that with the
Speaker 3: mental side of it in that you know, obviously it's
Speaker 3: all things that we talk about, but it was really
Speaker 3: fascinating to hear it from a different cultural perspective.
Speaker 1: I love that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was really really cool.
Speaker 3: And then the other thing that I really noticed in
Speaker 3: meeting people over there is that a little bit of
Speaker 3: effort to say something in their native language or to
Speaker 3: just to be really culturally respectable.
Speaker 4: It went a really long way.
Speaker 3: And that to me was such a big learning in
Speaker 3: that you can put in a little bit of effort
Speaker 3: and show people that you're willing to step into their space,
Speaker 3: and what was reciprocated.
Speaker 4: Was really it was almost overwhelming because people.
Speaker 3: Just started then, you know, talking to us almost in
Speaker 3: full Italian because I thought we could understand and just
Speaker 3: the contrast in doing that when a lot of other
Speaker 3: people weren't. So just having that, I guess acceptance and
Speaker 3: that want to be in another culture and to be
Speaker 3: part of it.
Speaker 4: I found quite fascinating.
Speaker 1: Do you know what I love about? Sorry, just to
Speaker 1: just one thing on you, old mate, before we get
Speaker 1: too far ahead. Like he's fascinated with you know, movement
Speaker 1: and you know sports science, and he's doing his degree
Speaker 1: on all of that, which is great. What is really
Speaker 1: like when we pair it back and we talk about
Speaker 1: strength training, we talk about running, we talk about functional training,
Speaker 1: CrossFit and high rocks or whatever it's called, and pilates
Speaker 1: and the myriad of fitness and exercise and movement options
Speaker 1: that we've got. The overwhelming difference between, like if you
Speaker 1: could just pick one attribute or one kind of factor
Speaker 1: that's different now from say, one hundred years ago, is
Speaker 1: just that overwhelmingly humans move less, like we move less,
Speaker 1: and so you know, and we we sit so much,
Speaker 1: we spend so and I know this is, you know,
Speaker 1: so much time at a death, so much time and
Speaker 1: a chair, so much time in a car, so much time,
Speaker 1: you know, and and I don't know what the actual number,
Speaker 1: but I used to quote this, but I think it
Speaker 1: was dodgy science. But I reckon that's somewhere in the
Speaker 1: ballpark that fifty years ago, Like, compared to fifty years ago,
Speaker 1: the average Australian now moves or expends about one thousand
Speaker 1: calories less per day just because we don't move much,
Speaker 1: you know. So that I mean, irrespective of what kind
Speaker 1: of movement it is. But you think about, like when
Speaker 1: we talk about energy expenditure, we talk about structured exercise,
Speaker 1: then we talk about a thing called incidental activity, and
Speaker 1: then a thing called occupational activity. Well, think about how
Speaker 1: incidental and occupational activity have plummeted now because so many
Speaker 1: jobs have been automated or at least somewhat automated, so
Speaker 1: we don't have to move much, you know. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I would think that just that one factor alone, irrespective
Speaker 1: whether it's running or lifting weights or doing any specific
Speaker 1: exercise program, if all you did, whatever that looked like,
Speaker 1: was just moved your body twice as much every day
Speaker 1: as you did the day before, or twice as much
Speaker 1: now as you typically have in the last year, that
Speaker 1: will make a massive difference.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, And that's what he was talking about as well.
Speaker 3: So the other people that were in our group, they
Speaker 3: were look, they were older than me, and they were
Speaker 3: quite fascinated by the fact that there was this guy
Speaker 3: who was you know, he was doing his second degree
Speaker 3: in this, but then coupling it with you know, there's
Speaker 3: the exercise and then there's like the mental fitness as well,
Speaker 3: and he had all of these wonderful stories of he said,
Speaker 3: you know, over the course of being a bike tour guide,
Speaker 3: I've met probably about two thousand people. And he said,
Speaker 3: I just want to start sharing their stories. And yeah,
Speaker 3: one of the things that he really was surprised by
Speaker 3: was the fact that there was this incredible spectrum of
Speaker 3: fitness and it didn't matter what age somebody he was.
Speaker 3: As he was saying, you know, there was someone who
Speaker 3: was eighty five that had probably the fitness of the
Speaker 3: twenty five year old and vice versa.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and I think that's like, that's good news
Speaker 1: because it shows us that fitness is not determined by age.
Speaker 1: It's influenced by age. But you know that we talk
Speaker 1: about that all the time. It's like, what what have
Speaker 1: you got to work with? How old are you, what
Speaker 1: are your genetics, what resources do you have? You know,
Speaker 1: what's your current medical status? You know, what's your current
Speaker 1: fitness level or strength level or flexibility or mobility and
Speaker 1: all that is is information and that's just a starting point,
Speaker 1: you know. So yeah, that's that's the space between chronological
Speaker 1: age and biological age and functional age is you don't
Speaker 1: need to be determined by the calendar. Will be influenced
Speaker 1: by the calendar, but you don't need to be determined
Speaker 1: by it. And for me, that just speaks to that,
Speaker 1: you know, that whole idea of potential and possibilities and like,
Speaker 1: what what could I forget what's normal, Forget what's typical,
Speaker 1: forget what most people do. Like even we had Nicole
Speaker 1: ladell on I think she's on today, Yeah, she's up today.
Speaker 1: And you know she started her degree at her first
Speaker 1: degree at forty three or four, and she's now in
Speaker 1: her fifties doing her PhD. And this is now I'm
Speaker 1: not throwing her under the bus because she's spoken about this,
Speaker 1: but when she was in her mid to late thirties,
Speaker 1: she was a single mum with kids. She was struggling
Speaker 1: to put food on the table. She was using food stamps,
Speaker 1: she literally couldn't pay bills. And when a lot of
Speaker 1: people are starting to wind down, she's in her fifties,
Speaker 1: she's traveling internationally to present her research now doing her doctorate,
Speaker 1: she's getting all of these like it's just and what
Speaker 1: she's doing is great. But what I love so much
Speaker 1: is just that it You're like, your brain doesn't really
Speaker 1: understand age in that sense. Like your brain will keep learning,
Speaker 1: your skills will keep developing, you can keep acquiring knowledge
Speaker 1: and understanding and insight, you can keep getting better as
Speaker 1: long as you do the things that will make you
Speaker 1: get better. But we live in this fucking cultural story
Speaker 1: of oh, well, this is what you should do. I mean,
Speaker 1: just the fact that there's a term that says age appropriate,
Speaker 1: age appropriate behavior, age appropriate clothing, age appropriate, like workouts agent.
Speaker 1: It's like fucking ridiculous. You know, there's a of course
Speaker 1: age needs to be factored a bit, but it's really
Speaker 1: part of it, not most of it steps down off soapbox.
Speaker 4: But then how much do you.
Speaker 3: Think is the correlation between because you've just said, you know,
Speaker 3: your brain doesn't stop learning, you can still keep moving forward.
Speaker 4: But then how much of that is linked to the.
Speaker 3: Societal kind of expectations of oh, but you know, on
Speaker 3: this age before, I really can't or you know, I'm
Speaker 3: in this situation so therefore I really can't as opposed
Speaker 3: to I've got the time, I've got the energy, I've
Speaker 3: got the drive, so therefore I can.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So I think I always always go is this
Speaker 1: a story or is this information? Because I can't that's
Speaker 1: a story. Oh at this age, that's a story. Oh
Speaker 1: I don't have the genetics for that's a story. Depends
Speaker 1: on what we're talking about. I don't have the genetics
Speaker 1: to be able to run one hundred meters in ten seconds.
Speaker 1: But you know, I put up a little video the
Speaker 1: other day which was maybe I didn't mean it to
Speaker 1: be bragging at bragster, but it was me a week
Speaker 1: after my sixty second birthday doing ten chinups, and and
Speaker 1: I don't put it up so people go, fuck, you're
Speaker 1: good at chinups? Or I put it up because I
Speaker 1: want people to know that when you're in your sixties,
Speaker 1: you can do shit in your sixties that most twenty
Speaker 1: year olds can't like if you and I don't mean that, oh,
Speaker 1: Craig Harp is great. No, no, no, I'm talking about
Speaker 1: what is possible, not possible for me. What's what's possible
Speaker 1: if you go and get fifty twenty five year old
Speaker 1: blokes off the street. I doubt that five of them
Speaker 1: could do ten chin ups. Maybe maybe I'm not saying again,
Speaker 1: it's not about me, it's about oh fuck. But when
Speaker 1: you get a sixty two year old body, or a
Speaker 1: fifty year old body or a and you get and
Speaker 1: you do these certain things and you create these outcomes,
Speaker 1: or when you put a broke, impoverished mid to late
Speaker 1: thirties mum in this environment where she's encouraged and she's learning,
Speaker 1: then she opens her eyes. Fifteen years later, she's now,
Speaker 1: she's done her honor, she's done her undergrad program, she's
Speaker 1: doing her PhD, she's traveling the world, she's speaking at conferences.
Speaker 1: And it's just because she kept asking good questions and
Speaker 1: she kept doing the work. So when someone says something,
Speaker 1: I go, is this information and data? Is this true?
Speaker 1: Is this truth? Or is this just a story about something?
Speaker 1: And if it's just a story, we can challenge the story. Obviously,
Speaker 1: I can't wake up tomorrow and be fifty years old,
Speaker 1: but I can wake up tomorrow at sixty two and go,
Speaker 1: I'm going to go and learn Italian, and then go
Speaker 1: learn Italian, and then in a year I'm sixty three
Speaker 1: and now I speak Italian. Why because I made a decision.
Speaker 1: I took action. I was diligent. I kept learning, I
Speaker 1: kept studying, I kept having conversations, I kept putting myself
Speaker 1: in situations to talk Italian with people. I kept fucking
Speaker 1: up and failing and trialing, trying, and then a year
Speaker 1: later I could hold a conversation. Two years later I
Speaker 1: was fluent. Three years later I was fucking grat at
Speaker 1: at why. Because at sixty two I made a decision like,
Speaker 1: this is just life and whether or not it's learning Italian,
Speaker 1: getting lean, building a business, doing a PhD. We have
Speaker 1: to get the bullshit stories out of the way of
Speaker 1: our potential because what I just described in that little
Speaker 1: learning Italian story, that's my potential, that's my possibilities. Right.
Speaker 1: We can learn, grow, evolve at any age, in any circumstances.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've seen that with my nn who I've mentioned
Speaker 3: multiple times, but forty seven years old, has a heart
Speaker 3: attack and is told, you know, call your.
Speaker 4: Family, tonight's the night.
Speaker 3: And she woke up the next morning and changed everything
Speaker 3: about her lifestyle. And now she's nearly ninety six, and
Speaker 3: that for her was restructuring that story.
Speaker 1: Yeah, amazing. Yeah, And that's that and we hear that
Speaker 1: so many times where something happens, like my dad had
Speaker 1: a heart attack, quadruple bypass, he died, he was revived, died,
Speaker 1: he was revived, and you know then he lost a
Speaker 1: whole lot of weight and he turned his life around
Speaker 1: it like your Nan and my dad, they could have
Speaker 1: done that before. You know, It's like that potential was there,
Speaker 1: But what happened I don't know. With your nand maybe,
Speaker 1: but definitely with my dad. What changed was his thinking,
Speaker 1: not his talent, not his potential, not his genetic disposition,
Speaker 1: not his resources, not the hours in a day, not
Speaker 1: his IQ. What changed was what did a one eighty?
Speaker 1: Was he thinking about what he needed to do because
Speaker 1: he was always gonna do it soon. And then when
Speaker 1: you die, for some people anyway, and then you survive
Speaker 1: that death like the crab and like Dad, then all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, it's not I'll get to it soon.
Speaker 1: It's like, no, I don't have an option. I'm going
Speaker 1: to do this now. It doesn't matter about motivation or
Speaker 1: discipline or self control or fucking time availability. All that
Speaker 1: shit goes out the window because now this is completely
Speaker 1: fucking non negotiable. This is my new normal Now here's
Speaker 1: the truth. Everybody has the potential to do that today,
Speaker 1: but they don't have the state of mind because people
Speaker 1: wait for the fucking heart attack, they wait for the diabetes,
Speaker 1: they wait for the catastrophe, and then sadly, I think
Speaker 1: this is one of the biggest things that limits us,
Speaker 1: is we actually wait for something horrendous or terrible before
Speaker 1: we try to really really tap into our power, potential possibilities.
Speaker 1: Like I think I've achieved a bit right, but I
Speaker 1: could do much more. But I feel like I am
Speaker 1: constantly talking to people who've got way more potential than me,
Speaker 1: way more intellect than me, way more creativity than me,
Speaker 1: way more possibilities than me, people who are thirty years
Speaker 1: younger than me. But what holds them back is not
Speaker 1: what they're capable of, but how they fucking think. It's
Speaker 1: how they think. Like you're thinking gets in the way
Speaker 1: of what because you're thinking is oh, yeah, I'm this,
Speaker 1: I'm a piece of shit on that I couldn't do this.
Speaker 1: It's all right for him. He's Craig Harper, or she's
Speaker 1: Tip Cook, or you know, she's Kelly Smith or whatever
Speaker 1: the story is. We're always finding a way remember stories
Speaker 1: and facts. We're always finding a way to justify what
Speaker 1: we're not doing. And then we're fifty and then we
Speaker 1: get grumpy at people like me because we're pushing buttons
Speaker 1: and it's like, well, what the fuck do you want?
Speaker 1: Like do you really want a better life? Well, for
Speaker 1: fuck's sake, stop talking and thinking and almost doing it.
Speaker 1: Like what has to happen? Do you have to get sick?
Speaker 1: Do you have to almost die? Does there need to
Speaker 1: be a catastrophe? Because every fucking person listening to this
Speaker 1: can do better. Every person nobody listening to this has
Speaker 1: peaked nobody. Now that doesn't mean everybody listening to this
Speaker 1: needs to do something, but there are a lot of
Speaker 1: people who listen to or read or watch or whatever
Speaker 1: it is that they're putting into their consciousness so much stuff,
Speaker 1: but we spin our wheels. I feel like I've gotten
Speaker 1: off track, girl, and I feel like I've gotten back
Speaker 1: on my high horse. And I apologize, but I feel
Speaker 1: like it was good there. I had a little coaching moment.
Speaker 1: I'll step down and be quiet and just dive into
Speaker 1: the typ bean bag.
Speaker 4: That it's good though, because.
Speaker 3: Retelling that story to yourself is exactly what I've been
Speaker 3: doing these past few months and really trying to keep
Speaker 3: the momentum going of having this opportunity with you guys.
Speaker 3: And for a long time, there's been things that I've
Speaker 3: been really wanting to do and I'm like, I can't
Speaker 3: do that because someone's going to say it's really shit
Speaker 3: and why would anyone want to look at my face
Speaker 3: or hear my voice or give a shit about anything
Speaker 3: that I'm doing. And then slowly I've been reframing that
Speaker 3: into I give a shit about it, and I really
Speaker 3: enjoy this and I'm getting a lot out of this,
Speaker 3: and i really.
Speaker 4: Want to do this.
Speaker 3: So what's stopping me when I've got such a great
Speaker 3: opportunity and I've got all of the tools right.
Speaker 4: In front of me to be able to do it.
Speaker 3: So I've reframed that, and I've really been pushing myself
Speaker 3: to create something every day. And whether I share it
Speaker 3: or not is a different story. But I'm pushing myself
Speaker 3: to do that. And even when I was away, it
Speaker 3: was just taking little notes about well, what am I
Speaker 3: seeing and how is this different to my everyday life?
Speaker 3: And you know what's that like over there? And is
Speaker 3: you know, how's that person interacting with that person, and
Speaker 3: what am I actually getting out of this experience that's
Speaker 3: that's bigger.
Speaker 4: Than me that I can take into.
Speaker 3: And that was probably another really big question that I
Speaker 3: had about the time I was away, and it was like,
Speaker 3: I've got this wonderful feeling where I'm stepping out of
Speaker 3: my comfort zone and it's really lovely and I feel
Speaker 3: really empowered.
Speaker 4: And I know it's.
Speaker 3: Because I'm not seeing or dealing with anyone that I
Speaker 3: would normally see in my everyday life. But why can't
Speaker 3: I take this attitude and this feeling back home? And
Speaker 3: so that is again part of this reframing of the story.
Speaker 1: I think part of the human experience, A big part
Speaker 1: of the human experience is because we're emotional. Right, It
Speaker 1: doesn't matter how logical and intellectual and strategic we are
Speaker 1: on this show and we talk about it, but at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, I get off here and
Speaker 1: I'm more emotional than I am logical. That doesn't mean
Speaker 1: I'm controlled by emotions, but we are all. I think
Speaker 1: human beings are more emotional and social creatures than we
Speaker 1: are intellectual, Which is not say we're stupid. We're clearly
Speaker 1: not stupid, but this is why so many people, when
Speaker 1: they get out of the emotional state of motivation, just
Speaker 1: stop doing what they need to do to live their
Speaker 1: best life or actually their goals or get where they
Speaker 1: say they want to go right. And so we are
Speaker 1: so controlled by these fluctuating states that we call emotions.
Speaker 1: We need to find a way to be able to
Speaker 1: in the middle of our emotion turn the volume down
Speaker 1: a little bit, feel what we feel, acknowledge what's going on.
Speaker 1: We're not pretending we're not emotional. We're not pretending we're
Speaker 1: not anxious when we are anxious. We're not pretending that
Speaker 1: things are great when they're shit. But we need to
Speaker 1: find a way in the middle of the peaks and
Speaker 1: troughs of the emotional experience that is being human. We
Speaker 1: need to find a way to keep doing what works,
Speaker 1: and we need to find a way to move forward
Speaker 1: with the program or the protocol or the framework or
Speaker 1: the to do list or whatever it is, because so
Speaker 1: many of us are held to ransom by how we
Speaker 1: feel on a day, and how I feel today will
Speaker 1: determine what I do now. If that happens four days
Speaker 1: a week, my emotions and my feelings are controlling my behavior,
Speaker 1: then your emotions and feelings are controlling your outcomes, which
Speaker 1: is controlling your reality. Now, we're not trying to turn
Speaker 1: everyone into cyborgs, because I just said I'm more emotional
Speaker 1: than logical. But I want to be able to acknowledge
Speaker 1: my emotions, my feelings, my fears, my anxiety, my self doubt,
Speaker 1: my internal bullshit, while still intellectually understanding that I'm okay,
Speaker 1: I'm pretty good. I'm not a terrible human. I'm not
Speaker 1: terrible at podcasting. Sometimes I'm not great. Sometimes I'm fucking brilliant,
Speaker 1: let's be honest. Sometimes I'm funny. Sometimes I'm a dickhead, right,
Speaker 1: But it's being able to self regulate and ride these
Speaker 1: peaks and troughs of the human experience that usually shows
Speaker 1: up in the form of, you know, some kind of emotion,
Speaker 1: and it's the challenge is not to be perpetually focused
Speaker 1: and disciplined and in the zone and you know, just
Speaker 1: full of fucking self control and resilience. And because that's
Speaker 1: a ridiculous unachieved aspiration, But what's a better aspiration is
Speaker 1: to go, well, look, I'm pretty fucking human, and there's
Speaker 1: a fair chance tomorrow I'm going to get up after
Speaker 1: I listened to Craig and Tiff and Kelly, and despite
Speaker 1: the fact that I'm in the zone and pumped and
Speaker 1: excited now, either tomorrow or the day after, I'm not
Speaker 1: going to be. So what I'm interested in is not
Speaker 1: what people do after they listen to this show because
Speaker 1: they're pump focused in the zone or whatever. I'm interested
Speaker 1: in next Friday, when all this shit is just a
Speaker 1: distant memory. So it is. I believe that success is
Speaker 1: so much about our ability to keep doing the things
Speaker 1: that we want to stop doing, and to be the
Speaker 1: person who when everyone else gets to a particular stage,
Speaker 1: an emotional state, a stage of their journey, when they
Speaker 1: would step down, it's how challenge to step up? And
Speaker 1: that is just how long can you keep going? How
Speaker 1: resilient can you be? What can you do when and
Speaker 1: you can't be bothered, like when you really feel like
Speaker 1: giving up, when no one's watching, when no one's cheering,
Speaker 1: when no one's telling you you're good, when there's no validation,
Speaker 1: even when you're not getting good results, What can you
Speaker 1: do then? Because it's in all of those different emotional
Speaker 1: and psychological spaces where people would go, oh, it's totally
Speaker 1: reasonable that you gave up, or that you stopped because
Speaker 1: it wasn't working, or because this, or because your back
Speaker 1: was sore, or because fuck it's cold, or because and
Speaker 1: then we're fifty, and this is my That was my
Speaker 1: fear for me. I was terrified of waking up at
Speaker 1: forty or fifty and being a nobody doing nothing, And
Speaker 1: not because I thought I was destined for greatness, but
Speaker 1: because I knew I had potential. I knew I had potential,
Speaker 1: and I know that when I was young, nobody else
Speaker 1: thought I had potential, and that scared me, you know.
Speaker 1: So it's just like this is all of these things
Speaker 1: that we all. You know, you feel it, tip feels
Speaker 1: that I feel it. You get up and you're like,
Speaker 1: I'm not feeling it today. Cool? Great, great? So today
Speaker 1: when you're not feeling it, how fucking awesome can you
Speaker 1: be today? That's the great question. And we've got to
Speaker 1: keep going to the wall, like we've got to keep
Speaker 1: going to the fucking room of mirrors and have a
Speaker 1: look at ourselves. And it sounds all very gung ho,
Speaker 1: Craig Harprish, but tell me how else it works. Like
Speaker 1: if we're not doing the work, if we're not making
Speaker 1: the decisions. If we're not rolling up our sleeves, if
Speaker 1: we're not getting courageous, if we're not producing the outcomes,
Speaker 1: how the fuck else do we succeed? There is no
Speaker 1: other way. Nobody can make success for you. Nobody can
Speaker 1: lose weight for you. Nobody can do a PhD for you,
Speaker 1: Nobody can build a business for you. Nobody can do
Speaker 1: the work like. This is the uncomfortable reality that people
Speaker 1: try and avoid by taking the fuck and easy path,
Speaker 1: or the instant gratification path, or the dopamine button. Good luck.
Speaker 1: After you've pressed the dopamine button for fucking ten years,
Speaker 1: then what now I'm addicted to seventeen different things? Tiff?
Speaker 2: How do you walk the line between knowing really knowing
Speaker 2: when it's appropriate to push and change your circumstances and
Speaker 2: when it's appropriate to sit down and change your expectations?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: How long can you let your expectations run the show
Speaker 2: and in a toxic way before you go? Fuck? It
Speaker 2: doesn't matter what. I'm never going to be happy and
Speaker 2: pushing through and soldiering on is not going to be
Speaker 2: the answer.
Speaker 1: Well, I think quite often we head down a road
Speaker 1: me included, and we get halfway down the road and
Speaker 1: we realize, oh, this is not the road for me,
Speaker 1: or I'm climbing the wrong mountain, and that's okay too.
Speaker 1: That's not giving up. That's awareness. It's like I've started
Speaker 1: things and I've got somewhat into the thing, and I realized, no,
Speaker 1: this isn't for me. This isn't It's not that I'm scared,
Speaker 1: or it's not that I'm maybe you can't do it.
Speaker 1: It's just that this is not this is not for me.
Speaker 1: And I think, you know, to be able to have
Speaker 1: that situational awareness and figure out that you know, for
Speaker 1: me in this, in this moment in time or on
Speaker 1: this part of my journey, this is not a good
Speaker 1: use of me. And I think also, you know, we
Speaker 1: need to pay attention to the data. We need to
Speaker 1: pay attention to the results there are. I mean, I've
Speaker 1: done many things that failed, and I've done other things
Speaker 1: that worked. But then you know, things have a used
Speaker 1: by date. Like I used to love running gyms, I
Speaker 1: used to love being on the gym floor, I used
Speaker 1: to love coaching people. I used to love and then
Speaker 1: I got to the point where I didn't. And it
Speaker 1: wasn't that it was bad. It's just like, Okay, this
Speaker 1: is not I need to learn and grow and evolve
Speaker 1: in other ways and other environments and doing different things.
Speaker 1: And it's not that owning a gym is bad or
Speaker 1: training clients or athletes is bad. It's all fucking amazing.
Speaker 1: But it's for me. It's reached its use by date.
Speaker 1: And I think that's just part of evolution, and that's
Speaker 1: part of you growing and learning but also being able
Speaker 1: to you know, I could listen to you way more
Speaker 1: things that I've done that didn't work than things that did.
Speaker 1: And you know, like even with this this podcast, it
Speaker 1: would have been very reasonable after five hundred episodes to
Speaker 1: go all right, I gave it a good go five
Speaker 1: hundred episodes, like we're making no money because it took
Speaker 1: us six hundred dollars before it was profit sorry, six
Speaker 1: hundred episodes before it was profitable. So you know, I
Speaker 1: think there's that. I think there's just paying attention to
Speaker 1: the results and the data as well. And I think
Speaker 1: maybe like sometimes when you just go and go and go,
Speaker 1: and you realize, well, this is never going to work.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter how hard I try, Well, that that's
Speaker 1: a different thing, you know, And that's just acknowledging that
Speaker 1: either this isn't possible and that's okay, or it's very
Speaker 1: very unlikely, or perhaps my strategy is wrong.
Speaker 2: Perhaps I'm you and our psychology like some sometimes we
Speaker 2: have a story that we're spending our lives affirming. So
Speaker 2: everything I do not me specifically, but there can be
Speaker 2: people who everything they do is really unconsciously to prove
Speaker 2: to themselves that they will not make it, They.
Speaker 4: Are not worthy.
Speaker 2: It will not be easy, that shit all of the things.
Speaker 2: And yes, yeah, so getting and that you can't get
Speaker 2: a coach or a person that knows that about you,
Speaker 2: But sometimes you don't know that about you.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, And I think when your story is I'm shit,
Speaker 1: you find evidence to support your story. Correct, You look
Speaker 1: for evidence and whether or not that's within or without. Yeah,
Speaker 1: But I think also a big part of this journey
Speaker 1: of becoming and whatever that I hate all these cliches everyone,
Speaker 1: so I apologize. But whatever success is for you, right,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter what it is. It only matters to
Speaker 1: you and whatever a better version of you or a
Speaker 1: better life, whatever that means to you. But is being
Speaker 1: able to do stuff where you get embarrassed, you get scared,
Speaker 1: you get humiliated, you get all of the things that
Speaker 1: you don't want, and you go, that's okay, that's okay,
Speaker 1: I don't want this, but this is part of it,
Speaker 1: you know that. It's like, back to your story of boxing.
Speaker 1: How did you get good at boxing? Well, you started
Speaker 1: by being shit, and you got beaten, and you got skilled,
Speaker 1: and you got schooled, and you had a whole lot
Speaker 1: of you know, I guess, mental emotional and physical pain.
Speaker 1: And through the middle of that and all the training
Speaker 1: and all the fights and all of that, you develop
Speaker 1: skill and ring craft and awareness and the right kind
Speaker 1: of fitness and strength and confidence and competence. And eventually,
Speaker 1: after being shit, you become less shit, and then less shit,
Speaker 1: then eventually not terrible, then kind of okay, and then wow,
Speaker 1: not bad, then kind of good, and then for who
Speaker 1: you were and what you had to work with, really
Speaker 1: fucking good and winning titles. Right, But you had to
Speaker 1: go through all the shits. And it ain't about boxing.
Speaker 1: It's about growth. It's about being prepared to do what's
Speaker 1: required to get to where I want to go now.
Speaker 1: And you started late. Imagine if you started when you're eighteen,
Speaker 1: you could have perhaps who knows has been a fucking
Speaker 1: world champion, who knows. Like I didn't write my first
Speaker 1: book till I was Nelly forty, and people used to
Speaker 1: say to me, and they weren't I mean, they weren't
Speaker 1: trying to reign on my parade. I think it's just
Speaker 1: how they thought it's very hard to get a book
Speaker 1: published if you're not a published author. I'm like, that's
Speaker 1: the dumbest shit ever, because everybody had at some stage,
Speaker 1: every author wrote a first book.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: And it's like everyone, you know, JK. Rowlings wrote a
Speaker 1: first book. Everyone wrote a first book, and everyone that
Speaker 1: is a published author I had a chance somehow or
Speaker 1: they created one or anyway. Sorry, Kelly, we've actually hijacked
Speaker 1: to your moment in the sun.
Speaker 4: This is great. I'd like sitting here. I'm sitting here
Speaker 4: just absorbing at all.
Speaker 3: What I do want to ask you both though, is yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 3: it's you know, stepping into that room and looking at
Speaker 3: yourself and asking yourself those questions about you know, what
Speaker 3: is it that I'm telling myself around whether I can
Speaker 3: or I can't, and just showing up every day, which
Speaker 3: goes back to the initial thing I said about a
Speaker 3: little bit of effort and how you can get so
Speaker 3: much back from it, But what do you both do
Speaker 3: on the days where you just really really don't want to.
Speaker 1: To if you go first?
Speaker 2: I feel like it's almost the opposite to me. I'm
Speaker 2: in that adjusting expectations phase where I've made changes to
Speaker 2: be okay with doing less and reprioritizing, and then still
Speaker 2: in recent times coming up with oh, you're like, you
Speaker 2: just you get trained. You train yourself in a behavior
Speaker 2: so strongly that I have just been on the go
Speaker 2: and chase and achieve and do and do every minute
Speaker 2: of the day, and it's put me in a space
Speaker 2: of rushing all the time. I'm always rushing, excited, like
Speaker 2: I'm excited until I'm exhausted, and then I'm like, how
Speaker 2: did we get here? So it's, you know, everything's doing
Speaker 2: the hard things hard until not doing the hard thing
Speaker 2: is harder, and stopping doing the hard thing, Like that's
Speaker 2: what I'm The basis of my current kenot is how
Speaker 2: what's the hard thing that I pretend I'm doing that's
Speaker 2: really the hard thing would be to stop it?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: I just wonder for people that are listening who maybe
Speaker 3: are absolutely terrified about starting or stopping something that have
Speaker 3: those days of almost being you know, they just physically
Speaker 3: can't or they mentally can't. Because I think that the
Speaker 3: three of us are probably in spaces where we seek
Speaker 3: out to be learning more, doing more, pushing ourselves like
Speaker 3: I know, for instance, like I push myself to do
Speaker 3: everything that I want to achieve. And again it's a story, right,
Speaker 3: but yeah, I just find it so fascinating around just
Speaker 3: being able to keep putting that one foot in front
Speaker 3: of the other, and whether it's like it's a relearning
Speaker 3: or it's just this is what I do now, or
Speaker 3: this is what I have to do because not doing
Speaker 3: it is going to be harder. Yeah, it's a really
Speaker 3: fascinating thing for me to know what gives people that
Speaker 3: drive on the days that they potentially can't even get
Speaker 3: out of bed, like they're just frozen almost.
Speaker 1: I think sometimes doing nothing is wisdom not weakness, right,
Speaker 1: And there are times when doing nothing is weakness not wisdom, right.
Speaker 1: So it's like there are times when you shouldn't train,
Speaker 1: there are times where you should have a day or
Speaker 1: a week off. There are times when hey don't make
Speaker 1: any hard decisions today. But I think when you do
Speaker 1: that consciously and intentionally and you've thought that through. This
Speaker 1: is not a response or a reaction, or this is
Speaker 1: not coming out of laziness or fear. This is like, oh, yeah, well,
Speaker 1: of course I can't redline all the time. And while
Speaker 1: I talk about having the crack and da da dah,
Speaker 1: I'm also the big you know. I did a podcast
Speaker 1: a few I don't know, weeks months ago, and I
Speaker 1: think it was called there was something around the idea
Speaker 1: of having fuck all days where you do fuck all.
Speaker 1: It's like, what are you doing? Fuck all? But gladly
Speaker 1: do fuck all? You know. It's like, oh, today's a
Speaker 1: fuck all day. I'm going to watch Netflix. I'm going
Speaker 1: to put my toes in the water, I'm going to
Speaker 1: fuck can eat food. I'm not going to the gym.
Speaker 1: I'm going to ring mum and talk shit to her
Speaker 1: and doesn't and cool, That's what I'm doing. But I'm
Speaker 1: not doing a month of that, do you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? So I think to be able to and
Speaker 1: this comes back to living consciously and intentionally, where I
Speaker 1: would never suggest anybody redlines or has their foot flat
Speaker 1: to the metaphoric floor. You know, seven days a week,
Speaker 1: or six or even five days a week necessarily, it's
Speaker 1: like think about you know, and if you get up
Speaker 1: and your body is genuinely your body is going no,
Speaker 1: not today. Well that's just that's biological insight. That's not weakness.
Speaker 1: But that's not the same as I can't be fucked.
Speaker 1: That's different. Go on, Tiff, I feel like, yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: going to say.
Speaker 2: To probably to more specifically answer your question for me, Kelly,
Speaker 2: is I'd always lean on and remind myself of what
Speaker 2: I learned through boxing. Like, every single time I got
Speaker 2: in a car to go to boxing training, I hated it.
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm tired, I don't want to go this,
Speaker 2: I couldn't want to go less and every time I
Speaker 2: left training was I couldn't wait to get back. So
Speaker 2: I remind myself, well, you know that thing you love
Speaker 2: the most, you know how every single time you had
Speaker 2: to do it you hated it. That's what it takes.
Speaker 2: That's what it takes to get what you want when
Speaker 2: you know what that is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and you think about again the old if
Speaker 1: we had one hundred people in a room and you said,
Speaker 1: to the hundred people, who wants to be physically mentally
Speaker 1: and emotionally stronger and more resilient and more capable. And
Speaker 1: everyone puts up their hand because everyone likes the idea
Speaker 1: of that. And then you go, right now, who's going
Speaker 1: to fully commit to the work. It's like all the
Speaker 1: hands stayed down. This is a podcast. This is like,
Speaker 1: it's the theory of change, and that's that, you know.
Speaker 1: And I just think for people, I think people get
Speaker 1: and I completely understand this. People get overwhelmed by the
Speaker 1: magnitude of the work ahead of them, especially when they're
Speaker 1: coming from a long way back. You know, it's like, oh, fuck, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's cool, Craig. But I can't even walk a kilometer
Speaker 1: without having a rest. Great, Like, that's called baseline data.
Speaker 1: So what can you do? Oh, well, I can walk
Speaker 1: about five hundred meters? I go, well, well done you.
Speaker 1: How often do you do that? I don't. Okay, So
Speaker 1: why don't you three times a day walk five hundred meters? Great? Well,
Speaker 1: that's a kilometer and a half a day. That's ten
Speaker 1: and a half k's a week. You know, that's over
Speaker 1: forty kilometers a month. Fuck, that's amazing. Let's start like
Speaker 1: what it's not like, oh, let's run a marathon. Let's
Speaker 1: build a brand. It's let's become a fucking influencer. It's like,
Speaker 1: what can you do? What can you do well? I
Speaker 1: can do three push ups leaning against the wall. Well done,
Speaker 1: let's start there. I can stand on one foot and
Speaker 1: balance for twelve seconds. Fuck go you, let's do that.
Speaker 1: What else can you do? Well? I guess I can
Speaker 1: read a bo I can read five pages. Fuck yeah,
Speaker 1: read five pages? Like what can you do? What? Like?
Speaker 1: What can you do? I trained a guy called Ben.
Speaker 1: I've told this story maybe twice. He came to me.
Speaker 1: He was over two hundred kilos, over two hundred kilos,
Speaker 1: young man, early twenties, maybe late maybe nineteen. Anyway, he
Speaker 1: came to me, His mum came to me, and they're like, basically,
Speaker 1: is there any point like could you work with him?
Speaker 1: I'm like, of course I can work with him. Fuck yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm excited to work with him. And it's just like
Speaker 1: for me, that was so much fun and so enjoyable
Speaker 1: and so exciting because I'm like, hey, bro, what can
Speaker 1: you do? I'm like, here's ten stairs, can you get
Speaker 1: up them? He's like he got up the ten stairs.
Speaker 1: I'm like, fucking high five dude, get the up, butter Cup,
Speaker 1: look at you like a fucking gang star, right, all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, Like for that dude to walk ten
Speaker 1: stairs is like Tiff running three k's right. So it's like,
Speaker 1: what can you do? What can you do? I can
Speaker 1: do ten? Great? Now can you come back down. Let's
Speaker 1: have a little drink of water, Let's have a chat.
Speaker 1: Now can you do that again? Cool? And so today
Speaker 1: we did four times ten. We did forty steps, which
Speaker 1: is forty more than you did yesterday. Now can you
Speaker 1: lift this weight? Now? Can you let's go for a walk.
Speaker 1: Let's see how far we can. Let's do a four
Speaker 1: minute walk and see if you can walk four minutes NonStop.
Speaker 1: You did, well done. I'm writing and in the diary
Speaker 1: this is day one of you fuck better butter Cup.
Speaker 1: Did my microphone just change Tiff just briefly? Yeah? Sorry?
Speaker 1: But I mean that's the thing, like, get fucking excited.
Speaker 1: What can you do? It doesn't matter what other people do.
Speaker 1: The only person you should compare yourself to, you compare
Speaker 1: yourself to is you, And then that way you're moving
Speaker 1: forward in a positive emotional and psychological and also space.
Speaker 1: But also it's just intelligent because the body that you've
Speaker 1: only got one body, and that's the body you're working with,
Speaker 1: or only one brain, or only one mind, or only
Speaker 1: one intellect, or only one creative capacity, whatever it is
Speaker 1: that you're working with, that's all you've got to work with.
Speaker 1: So just compare current you with yesterday's you and tomorrow
Speaker 1: with yesterday's you, and then we get a real sense
Speaker 1: of progress and achievement. And that makes sense. And going
Speaker 1: from you know, whether or not it's walking for three minutes,
Speaker 1: or whether or not it's it's reading a book in
Speaker 1: a year, or whether or not it's having a hard conversation,
Speaker 1: it's only relative to the person in the middle of it.
Speaker 3: And you know, that's the answer to what I was
Speaker 3: just asking. On the days that you really don't want to,
Speaker 3: it's just a question of what can you do?
Speaker 1: Open ten dollars for that answer, No worries.
Speaker 4: I think that's great.
Speaker 3: I think that you can apply that to everything, and
Speaker 3: it's just a matter of the effort and the intent
Speaker 3: that Yeah, there we go, look at that.
Speaker 1: Yeahreate you.
Speaker 4: Thanks, Thanks guys.
Speaker 1: I feel like we uh and by we I mean
Speaker 1: me hijacked. Have you got another question? And both of us,
Speaker 1: will shut up while you asked the question and actually
Speaker 1: let you have some mere time.
Speaker 4: I'm enjoying you. Though it's great, I feel a bit.
Speaker 3: I feel a bit rusty having come back from, you know,
Speaker 3: three weeks on the Carbonara tour and it was let
Speaker 3: me tell you, it was the Carbonara tour.
Speaker 4: It was great. Did you put on.
Speaker 1: Did you put on weight? Mary? Mary would say, did
Speaker 1: you put on any weight while you're away? Mary rang
Speaker 1: me just before canell? Do you know? Can I just no,
Speaker 1: I's going to hijack it again. Remind me to tell
Speaker 1: you the Mary story. Tip tell us about the Carbonara
Speaker 1: Bloody Tour. I did.
Speaker 3: Let let Mary know that I indulged in a lot
Speaker 3: of Carbonara daily Carbonara feasts, and I have returned a
Speaker 3: little bit heavier, but you know, so what, it was enjoyable.
Speaker 3: It was so enjoyable. And I've come back and started
Speaker 3: back at the gym, which is also very enjoyable. And
Speaker 3: it's such a beautiful community of people there. They walked
Speaker 3: in and they're like, oh my god, you're back.
Speaker 4: We missed you. How was it? And I was like,
Speaker 4: oh that's nice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's good, isn't it.
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I've never been to Italy. Been to Europe, but I
Speaker 1: haven't been to Italy. Is the pastor as good as
Speaker 1: they say? Like everyone's like, oh, it's different, it's not
Speaker 1: the same, Like you cannot understand is it that good?
Speaker 4: It's better?
Speaker 1: Really?
Speaker 3: Yeah, different ingredients, different way of cooking. It's very simple
Speaker 3: food done really really well.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Wow, all right, I'll bet a prodominal list. All right,
Speaker 1: let's here's my Mary story before we go. So Mary
Speaker 1: rang me just before I was out traversing suburbia like
Speaker 1: a fucking weirdo that I am with my beanie on,
Speaker 1: my headphones on, looking like fucking the Hampton Terrorist. Anyway,
Speaker 1: Mary rings and she goes, oh, you off to Queensland tomorrow?
Speaker 1: And I go yep. She goes, all right, well I
Speaker 1: thought i'd ring before you go. I go, mum, you can.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter where I am, you can ring, right,
Speaker 1: It's like my phone works in Queensland. She thinks she
Speaker 1: has to call me before I go and after I
Speaker 1: get back that doesn't want to bother me. I go, mum,
Speaker 1: I'm actually got more free time when I'm away. So anyway,
Speaker 1: She's like, all right, all right, then I'll my Mum's
Speaker 1: way of saying I'm going to pray for you is
Speaker 1: I'll send a few up for you. And she's like,
Speaker 1: and I don't know, but in Catholicism there are all
Speaker 1: these patron saints of different things, right, So she goes,
Speaker 1: I'll say a prayer to Sir Anthony, and she goes, all,
Speaker 1: not Sir Anthony. She goes, who's the patron saint of
Speaker 1: travel again, and then it's like, Saint Christopher. I'll pray
Speaker 1: to Saint Christopher for you. I'm like, you do that, Mary,
Speaker 1: I go, what about Jesus? She goes, yeah, him too.
Speaker 1: But you know, I'm like, all right, well, let's let's
Speaker 1: just bang out a couples to Saint Christopher. He's the
Speaker 1: patron saint of travel and St Anthony, Tiff and kel
Speaker 1: and listeners. Apparently he's the saint when you lose something
Speaker 1: and you can't find it, you say prayer to Saint.
Speaker 2: Anthony to befriend Saint Anthony, just to.
Speaker 1: Keep everyone in the loop. According to Mary anyway, I
Speaker 1: don't quote me exactly, but I think that's that's how
Speaker 1: it goes. So, and can I say to you when
Speaker 1: she says I'm going to pray to Saint Anthony for you.
Speaker 1: She's not being hilarious and funny. She's like she's giving
Speaker 1: me her like spiritual covering so that when I'm away,
Speaker 1: I'm going to be protected. Oh. I love her so much.
Speaker 4: That's beautiful.
Speaker 1: Who's going to pray for me? When Mary buys the farm?
Speaker 1: When she goes to that big bloody you know cathedral
Speaker 1: in the sky.
Speaker 4: She'll she'll be sending prayers down. That's right, Yeah, she'll
Speaker 4: be sending.
Speaker 1: That'll make me more nervous because she'll know everything I'm
Speaker 1: fucking doing, because with her little beady eyes from her
Speaker 1: cloud up there, she'll just be watching me.
Speaker 2: She might be sitting in the bamboom.
Speaker 1: Oh, I don't know how we're talking about my mum's
Speaker 1: death now. I feel like that's taken a dark turn.
Speaker 1: But she's still here and we love her. Let's hope
Speaker 1: she's here for a long time. And Ronnie as well.
Speaker 1: Oh that got bad quick, didn't it. Oh, let's chop
Speaker 1: that out. No, Hey, everyone, thanks so much for joining us.
Speaker 1: Kel I'm glad you're back. We're glad you had a
Speaker 1: good trip.
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 1: I'm so glad you put on ten kilos via the pasta. No,
Speaker 1: you didn't, you don't. You don't look like you've gained anything,
Speaker 1: which is very annoying. But next time you travel, let
Speaker 1: Mary know and she'll send a few up for you.
Speaker 4: I'll request it, absolutely all right.
Speaker 1: Thanks everyone, Thanks TIV, thank you Sarah,