1 00:00:01,160 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: Just put my new bloody phone charger thing going. I 2 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: get a team. It's the project, that's you, It's it's 3 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:09,039 Speaker 1: me in the bloody studio. It's Tiff in the bloody studio, 4 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: Kelly and the other studio, with an orange case over 5 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: her right shoulder, just to remind us that she's a 6 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 1: jet setterer, world traveler, just to prompt me so that 7 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:23,080 Speaker 1: I would ask her about her international jet setting. We'll 8 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: get to that in a moment. Bragging bragster over there 9 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: with a European tan, Tiff, how are you? 10 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 2: I'm good, Probably not as good as cal, but I'm 11 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 2: pretty good. I'm pretty good. 12 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:35,239 Speaker 1: Well, it's been a long time since you and I 13 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 1: caught up about twenty seven minutes ago when we had 14 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 1: gillespion and you were jowing into a carrot like fucking 15 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: bugs Bunny in the background. There have you done anything 16 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 1: to satisfy that insatiable stomach of yours? 17 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 2: Set? Thank goodness. I went and whoped myself up some dinner, 18 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 2: so I'm much more tolerable now. I was pretty good though, 19 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 2: running on a carrot. 20 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: What you like when you're starving, like you know, when 21 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: you're like out of control starving is there anything particularly particular, 22 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 1: like good or bad, healthier, not, doesn't matter where you're Like, fuck, 23 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 1: I could just killer a whatever, a burger, lasagna, Like 24 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: what is what is your go to? If it didn't 25 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 1: have a negative impact, Like. 26 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 2: You could just cook me up the road from Hey, 27 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 2: they're cookie. They're the best things you've ever eaten in 28 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 2: your whole life. 29 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: So when you're hungry, you would rather something sweet than savory. 30 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 2: No, no, that's not true. That's not true. I just 31 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 2: like I like like steak and stir fried veg or 32 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 2: fish and stuff frovege I like to like. I like 33 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 2: meat and beg. I like steak, I like salmon, I 34 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 2: like fish. Basic. I don't like pasta, and I don't 35 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 2: really I don't mind lazania, but I don't have it. 36 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm all about flavor, like whether it's chicken or 37 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: beef or turkey, or it's got to be swimming in 38 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: something that's an awesome flavor, Like eating a bit of 39 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: steak that's doesn't just does not do it for me. No, No, 40 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: I'm all about the flavor. And yeah, like and do 41 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 1: you know what like my go to right now? Because 42 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: I'm hungry right now. But I'm not hungry like you get. 43 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: But if I could just have you know, when you 44 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: play cards sometimes, Kelly, and you can use a joker 45 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: and that's like a wild card, and that can be anything, 46 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: like I reckon my wild card with food where you 47 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:28,519 Speaker 1: could eat anything you want but the calories don't count. 48 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: Would be at this point in time, a really good hamburger. 49 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: I say that, egg, cheese, onion, barbecue sauce, big fat meat, 50 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: paddy fucking white bun toasted with butter on it, caramelized onions. 51 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:52,119 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, gidyap, that's like school. I feel horrendous, but yeah, kel, 52 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: what's yours? 53 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 3: Mine would be lasagna, absolutely, Like I would eat the 54 00:02:57,400 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 3: whole tray. Just give me a fork in the tray 55 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 3: and leave me alone for like an hour and done. 56 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: Has it got that besher moll source on it? 57 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 4: It does? 58 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, that's that's the Shit's My mum makes that. 59 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 1: But it's about unlike most you know, how you go 60 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 1: some places you get beef lasagna, it's about ten percent 61 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: beef and ninety percent everything else. I'm like, Mary makes 62 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: like this one, and it's it's about fifty percent meat. 63 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: It's the best thing ever. Yeah, you'd love it. You 64 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 1: know what else we've spoken about before we get into 65 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: the actual show proper. Melissa and I have had this 66 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: conversation and we think there's a word that's lacking in 67 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: the English language, and the word I don't know what 68 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: the word is. If anyone's got just an idea, just 69 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: just send it in to the you Project Facebook page. 70 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: But you know, when you're real hungry and then you 71 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: get something and you finally get food, but it doesn't 72 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: hit the spot. It's like it doesn't you know, you 73 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: wanted something fucking yummy and you're like, you eat it 74 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: and it's like you've just come home and it's like 75 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: heaven and like, oh my god, this is amazing, right, 76 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: and that's what you want. But you're hungry and you 77 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: get the meal and it's just it's a three out 78 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: of ten. So you get the calories that you wanted, 79 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 1: but not the satisfaction or the dopamine, not the joy, 80 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: not the mouth but the mouth gasm as I call it. Yeah, 81 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: And so there's this disappointment that comes with eating a 82 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: meal that's not satisfying, but you've fucked it up because 83 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 1: now you're not hungry, right, so you can't go eat again. 84 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 1: There's that disappointment around food. We need a name for 85 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: that because it's like, you know, taste bud nirvana. What's 86 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: the opposite of that when you get the calories but 87 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: not the joy. 88 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, the opposite of a food DoSM Yes? 89 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 1: Anyway, more on that later. We probably don't need to. 90 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: I don't know why I opened that door. It's just 91 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:04,919 Speaker 1: I think about food too much. So what just before 92 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: we actually talk about what? What did you have for dinners? 93 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 2: If I had fish? I had fish and some some 94 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 2: stir fryed veggies and you know what I had that? 95 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 2: I haven't had for ages? Corn on the cob. 96 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: Wow? How did you did you steam that? 97 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 2: What did you do with I sted it? I haven't 98 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 2: had that feet I can't well, I couldn't tell you 99 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 2: how long it reminded me of like being at NaN's 100 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 2: or something. That's how long did you. 101 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:32,359 Speaker 1: Ever used to use the word yonk when you were 102 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: a kid. We haven't had it for yonks? 103 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I still use that. 104 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 1: What do you mean you how long is it yonk exactly? 105 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 1: Is it yon months? Or is it yon years? 106 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 4: It's kind of open, isn't it. 107 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 1: It's not it's not. It's not that different to smidge 108 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: or tad or morsel, you know all those like what's 109 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: big a smidge, a tad, a frag Kelly, how was 110 00:05:58,000 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: your international jet setting? 111 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 4: It was amazing, it was every day, it was incredible. 112 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:06,280 Speaker 1: So how long were you away? 113 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 2: For? 114 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 4: Just under three weeks? 115 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: All right, we don't have that long light. We're not 116 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: going to do the show on your trip, but give 117 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:18,280 Speaker 1: us two highlights to memories that will be forever etched 118 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: in your little brain or your big brain. So any 119 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 1: it could be any highlight, anything. 120 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 4: Any highlight. 121 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 3: So we banded together and we rented a boat one 122 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 3: day with someone who knew how to drive the boat, 123 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 3: and we went around the Malfy coast. 124 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 4: That was quite incredible. 125 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 3: So it was like the water was the color of 126 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 3: blue I haven't never ever seen before in my life. 127 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:44,720 Speaker 1: And can I say on behalf of the men, I'm 128 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: sorry to interrupt because all the bloke's gone, yeah, the cool, 129 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 1: cool story. What kind of boat though? 130 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 3: It was a boat that had a steering wheel, and 131 00:06:55,080 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 3: it was a boat this, I mean this was down. 132 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 3: It wasn't a yacht it was and it wasn't like 133 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 3: a little tug boat. 134 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:07,359 Speaker 4: It was kind of it was in between. It was 135 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 4: a boat, it had a motor on it. 136 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: Fucking worst story ever on extendable Roots. 137 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 3: So we didn't get you know, burnt in that you know, 138 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 3: hot Italian sun that we were having. 139 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 1: To was Was it okay? So forget the boat? But 140 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: was it beautiful? 141 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 4: It was beautiful. It was absolutely beautiful. 142 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 3: And I'm not normally a beachy person, but even I 143 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 3: swam in that water. 144 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 4: So wow, that was quite incredible. 145 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: Are you not beachy because you're a ranger? 146 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 4: Pretty much? Pretty much? 147 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: So imagine like sixty six percent of the people sixty 148 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: six point six percent recurring people on this podcast. Of 149 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: the people on this podcast, I rang us or as 150 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: we used to say, fan of pants. But you can't 151 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 1: say that anymore. So I'm not going to say that. 152 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: I can't say that at all. 153 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 4: No, I don't say that. It's not either. 154 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: That could be the name of the show. Oh there's 155 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 1: so many things that I could say. Now I won't. 156 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: Well again, she just opened the door. Now, all right, 157 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 1: So you're coming on the show, that's right to ask 158 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 1: some questions to You're basically the host for the next 159 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: half hour or so. Have you been had you thinking, 160 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: cap on mile you're away. 161 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 4: I did. 162 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 3: So there was a lot of really interesting people that 163 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 3: I met. One of them we did this bike ride 164 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 3: just out of Rome and we got to go and 165 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 3: see all of the ancient aqueducts, which was really cool. 166 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 3: And the host of the or the tour guide of 167 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 3: the bike ride, his name was Lorenzo. He was this 168 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 3: really cool dude and we got to chatting and he 169 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 3: said that he was currently studying his second university degree 170 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 3: and was now moving into what he called sports science. 171 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 3: And I said to him, well, I'm going to have 172 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 3: to introduce you to the Year Project, and you know, 173 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 3: you'll have to, you know, listen to this and see 174 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 3: what you get out of it. But he was he 175 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 3: was really fascinating in the way that he was talking 176 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 3: about I just believe that you need to keep moving 177 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 3: your body every day otherwise, you know, you just you 178 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 3: stop your diet, like there's no point in not moving 179 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 3: your body. And he was telling me how, you know, 180 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 3: he was meeting people that were like in their twenties 181 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:32,559 Speaker 3: and they could barely pedal even though it was an 182 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:35,719 Speaker 3: e bike. And then he had some dudes that were 183 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:38,439 Speaker 3: like eighty five years old, and by the end of 184 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 3: the bike ride he would check the batteries and the 185 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:42,839 Speaker 3: batteries hadn't been touched because the eighty five year olds 186 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 3: were so fit, and so he said that, you know, 187 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 3: he was spending like his life's purpose was to study 188 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 3: how bodies work. But then also combine that with the 189 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 3: mental side of it in that you know, obviously it's 190 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 3: all things that we talk about, but it was really 191 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:02,079 Speaker 3: fascinating to hear it from a different cultural perspective. 192 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 1: I love that. 193 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, he was really really cool. 194 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 3: And then the other thing that I really noticed in 195 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 3: meeting people over there is that a little bit of 196 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 3: effort to say something in their native language or to 197 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 3: just to be really culturally respectable. 198 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 4: It went a really long way. 199 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 3: And that to me was such a big learning in 200 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 3: that you can put in a little bit of effort 201 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:31,319 Speaker 3: and show people that you're willing to step into their space, 202 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 3: and what was reciprocated. 203 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:38,719 Speaker 4: Was really it was almost overwhelming because people. 204 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 3: Just started then, you know, talking to us almost in 205 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 3: full Italian because I thought we could understand and just 206 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:46,319 Speaker 3: the contrast in doing that when a lot of other 207 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:51,839 Speaker 3: people weren't. So just having that, I guess acceptance and 208 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 3: that want to be in another culture and to be 209 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 3: part of it. 210 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:56,079 Speaker 4: I found quite fascinating. 211 00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 1: Do you know what I love about? Sorry, just to 212 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 1: just one thing on you, old mate, before we get 213 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: too far ahead. Like he's fascinated with you know, movement 214 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: and you know sports science, and he's doing his degree 215 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 1: on all of that, which is great. What is really 216 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 1: like when we pair it back and we talk about 217 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: strength training, we talk about running, we talk about functional training, 218 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 1: CrossFit and high rocks or whatever it's called, and pilates 219 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: and the myriad of fitness and exercise and movement options 220 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:31,839 Speaker 1: that we've got. The overwhelming difference between, like if you 221 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 1: could just pick one attribute or one kind of factor 222 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: that's different now from say, one hundred years ago, is 223 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: just that overwhelmingly humans move less, like we move less, 224 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 1: and so you know, and we we sit so much, 225 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: we spend so and I know this is, you know, 226 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: so much time at a death, so much time and 227 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 1: a chair, so much time in a car, so much time, 228 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: you know, and and I don't know what the actual number, 229 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 1: but I used to quote this, but I think it 230 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 1: was dodgy science. But I reckon that's somewhere in the 231 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:08,839 Speaker 1: ballpark that fifty years ago, Like, compared to fifty years ago, 232 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 1: the average Australian now moves or expends about one thousand 233 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: calories less per day just because we don't move much, 234 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 1: you know. So that I mean, irrespective of what kind 235 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 1: of movement it is. But you think about, like when 236 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 1: we talk about energy expenditure, we talk about structured exercise, 237 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 1: then we talk about a thing called incidental activity, and 238 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 1: then a thing called occupational activity. Well, think about how 239 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 1: incidental and occupational activity have plummeted now because so many 240 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 1: jobs have been automated or at least somewhat automated, so 241 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 1: we don't have to move much, you know. So yeah, 242 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: I would think that just that one factor alone, irrespective 243 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 1: whether it's running or lifting weights or doing any specific 244 00:12:57,320 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 1: exercise program, if all you did, whatever that looked like, 245 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: was just moved your body twice as much every day 246 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 1: as you did the day before, or twice as much 247 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 1: now as you typically have in the last year, that 248 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 1: will make a massive difference. 249 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 4: Yeah. 250 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 3: Absolutely, And that's what he was talking about as well. 251 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 3: So the other people that were in our group, they 252 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:23,679 Speaker 3: were look, they were older than me, and they were 253 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 3: quite fascinated by the fact that there was this guy 254 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 3: who was you know, he was doing his second degree 255 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 3: in this, but then coupling it with you know, there's 256 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 3: the exercise and then there's like the mental fitness as well, 257 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 3: and he had all of these wonderful stories of he said, 258 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 3: you know, over the course of being a bike tour guide, 259 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 3: I've met probably about two thousand people. And he said, 260 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 3: I just want to start sharing their stories. And yeah, 261 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 3: one of the things that he really was surprised by 262 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 3: was the fact that there was this incredible spectrum of 263 00:13:57,120 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 3: fitness and it didn't matter what age somebody he was. 264 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 3: As he was saying, you know, there was someone who 265 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 3: was eighty five that had probably the fitness of the 266 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 3: twenty five year old and vice versa. 267 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and I think that's like, that's good news 268 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 1: because it shows us that fitness is not determined by age. 269 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 1: It's influenced by age. But you know that we talk 270 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: about that all the time. It's like, what what have 271 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 1: you got to work with? How old are you, what 272 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 1: are your genetics, what resources do you have? You know, 273 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: what's your current medical status? You know, what's your current 274 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 1: fitness level or strength level or flexibility or mobility and 275 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 1: all that is is information and that's just a starting point, 276 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 1: you know. So yeah, that's that's the space between chronological 277 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: age and biological age and functional age is you don't 278 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 1: need to be determined by the calendar. Will be influenced 279 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 1: by the calendar, but you don't need to be determined 280 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: by it. And for me, that just speaks to that, 281 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: you know, that whole idea of potential and possibilities and like, 282 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 1: what what could I forget what's normal, Forget what's typical, 283 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: forget what most people do. Like even we had Nicole 284 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: ladell on I think she's on today, Yeah, she's up today. 285 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 1: And you know she started her degree at her first 286 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 1: degree at forty three or four, and she's now in 287 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: her fifties doing her PhD. And this is now I'm 288 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: not throwing her under the bus because she's spoken about this, 289 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: but when she was in her mid to late thirties, 290 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 1: she was a single mum with kids. She was struggling 291 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 1: to put food on the table. She was using food stamps, 292 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 1: she literally couldn't pay bills. And when a lot of 293 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 1: people are starting to wind down, she's in her fifties, 294 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: she's traveling internationally to present her research now doing her doctorate, 295 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 1: she's getting all of these like it's just and what 296 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 1: she's doing is great. But what I love so much 297 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 1: is just that it You're like, your brain doesn't really 298 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: understand age in that sense. Like your brain will keep learning, 299 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 1: your skills will keep developing, you can keep acquiring knowledge 300 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: and understanding and insight, you can keep getting better as 301 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 1: long as you do the things that will make you 302 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 1: get better. But we live in this fucking cultural story 303 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 1: of oh, well, this is what you should do. I mean, 304 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 1: just the fact that there's a term that says age appropriate, 305 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: age appropriate behavior, age appropriate clothing, age appropriate, like workouts agent. 306 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 1: It's like fucking ridiculous. You know, there's a of course 307 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 1: age needs to be factored a bit, but it's really 308 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: part of it, not most of it steps down off soapbox. 309 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 4: But then how much do you. 310 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 3: Think is the correlation between because you've just said, you know, 311 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 3: your brain doesn't stop learning, you can still keep moving forward. 312 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 4: But then how much of that is linked to the. 313 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 3: Societal kind of expectations of oh, but you know, on 314 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 3: this age before, I really can't or you know, I'm 315 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 3: in this situation so therefore I really can't as opposed 316 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 3: to I've got the time, I've got the energy, I've 317 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 3: got the drive, so therefore I can. 318 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. So I think I always always go is this 319 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:19,120 Speaker 1: a story or is this information? Because I can't that's 320 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 1: a story. Oh at this age, that's a story. Oh 321 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:26,880 Speaker 1: I don't have the genetics for that's a story. Depends 322 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:28,880 Speaker 1: on what we're talking about. I don't have the genetics 323 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 1: to be able to run one hundred meters in ten seconds. 324 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:33,680 Speaker 1: But you know, I put up a little video the 325 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:35,879 Speaker 1: other day which was maybe I didn't mean it to 326 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 1: be bragging at bragster, but it was me a week 327 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 1: after my sixty second birthday doing ten chinups, and and 328 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 1: I don't put it up so people go, fuck, you're 329 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 1: good at chinups? Or I put it up because I 330 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: want people to know that when you're in your sixties, 331 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: you can do shit in your sixties that most twenty 332 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:55,159 Speaker 1: year olds can't like if you and I don't mean that, oh, 333 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 1: Craig Harp is great. No, no, no, I'm talking about 334 00:17:57,359 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 1: what is possible, not possible for me. What's what's possible 335 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:05,439 Speaker 1: if you go and get fifty twenty five year old 336 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 1: blokes off the street. I doubt that five of them 337 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:13,440 Speaker 1: could do ten chin ups. Maybe maybe I'm not saying again, 338 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 1: it's not about me, it's about oh fuck. But when 339 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 1: you get a sixty two year old body, or a 340 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:19,399 Speaker 1: fifty year old body or a and you get and 341 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 1: you do these certain things and you create these outcomes, 342 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 1: or when you put a broke, impoverished mid to late 343 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 1: thirties mum in this environment where she's encouraged and she's learning, 344 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: then she opens her eyes. Fifteen years later, she's now, 345 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:37,680 Speaker 1: she's done her honor, she's done her undergrad program, she's 346 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 1: doing her PhD, she's traveling the world, she's speaking at conferences. 347 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:46,439 Speaker 1: And it's just because she kept asking good questions and 348 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:49,399 Speaker 1: she kept doing the work. So when someone says something, 349 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 1: I go, is this information and data? Is this true? 350 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: Is this truth? Or is this just a story about something? 351 00:18:56,960 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: And if it's just a story, we can challenge the story. Obviously, 352 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 1: I can't wake up tomorrow and be fifty years old, 353 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 1: but I can wake up tomorrow at sixty two and go, 354 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 1: I'm going to go and learn Italian, and then go 355 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 1: learn Italian, and then in a year I'm sixty three 356 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 1: and now I speak Italian. Why because I made a decision. 357 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:20,159 Speaker 1: I took action. I was diligent. I kept learning, I 358 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:23,679 Speaker 1: kept studying, I kept having conversations, I kept putting myself 359 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 1: in situations to talk Italian with people. I kept fucking 360 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 1: up and failing and trialing, trying, and then a year 361 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 1: later I could hold a conversation. Two years later I 362 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:35,199 Speaker 1: was fluent. Three years later I was fucking grat at 363 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 1: at why. Because at sixty two I made a decision like, 364 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 1: this is just life and whether or not it's learning Italian, 365 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 1: getting lean, building a business, doing a PhD. We have 366 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 1: to get the bullshit stories out of the way of 367 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 1: our potential because what I just described in that little 368 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 1: learning Italian story, that's my potential, that's my possibilities. Right. 369 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 1: We can learn, grow, evolve at any age, in any circumstances. 370 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've seen that with my nn who I've mentioned 371 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 3: multiple times, but forty seven years old, has a heart 372 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 3: attack and is told, you know, call your. 373 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 4: Family, tonight's the night. 374 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:21,679 Speaker 3: And she woke up the next morning and changed everything 375 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 3: about her lifestyle. And now she's nearly ninety six, and 376 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 3: that for her was restructuring that story. 377 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:35,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, amazing. Yeah, And that's that and we hear that 378 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 1: so many times where something happens, like my dad had 379 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:43,880 Speaker 1: a heart attack, quadruple bypass, he died, he was revived, died, 380 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:47,919 Speaker 1: he was revived, and you know then he lost a 381 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:50,399 Speaker 1: whole lot of weight and he turned his life around 382 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 1: it like your Nan and my dad, they could have 383 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:58,160 Speaker 1: done that before. You know, It's like that potential was there, 384 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:00,919 Speaker 1: But what happened I don't know. With your nand maybe, 385 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:04,640 Speaker 1: but definitely with my dad. What changed was his thinking, 386 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 1: not his talent, not his potential, not his genetic disposition, 387 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 1: not his resources, not the hours in a day, not 388 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:16,119 Speaker 1: his IQ. What changed was what did a one eighty? 389 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 1: Was he thinking about what he needed to do because 390 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 1: he was always gonna do it soon. And then when 391 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 1: you die, for some people anyway, and then you survive 392 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 1: that death like the crab and like Dad, then all 393 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 1: of a sudden, it's not I'll get to it soon. 394 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 1: It's like, no, I don't have an option. I'm going 395 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 1: to do this now. It doesn't matter about motivation or 396 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 1: discipline or self control or fucking time availability. All that 397 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:42,160 Speaker 1: shit goes out the window because now this is completely 398 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:46,400 Speaker 1: fucking non negotiable. This is my new normal Now here's 399 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:50,640 Speaker 1: the truth. Everybody has the potential to do that today, 400 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 1: but they don't have the state of mind because people 401 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 1: wait for the fucking heart attack, they wait for the diabetes, 402 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 1: they wait for the catastrophe, and then sadly, I think 403 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 1: this is one of the biggest things that limits us, 404 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 1: is we actually wait for something horrendous or terrible before 405 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 1: we try to really really tap into our power, potential possibilities. 406 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 1: Like I think I've achieved a bit right, but I 407 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 1: could do much more. But I feel like I am 408 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,919 Speaker 1: constantly talking to people who've got way more potential than me, 409 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 1: way more intellect than me, way more creativity than me, 410 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 1: way more possibilities than me, people who are thirty years 411 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:42,479 Speaker 1: younger than me. But what holds them back is not 412 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:46,880 Speaker 1: what they're capable of, but how they fucking think. It's 413 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 1: how they think. Like you're thinking gets in the way 414 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 1: of what because you're thinking is oh, yeah, I'm this, 415 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 1: I'm a piece of shit on that I couldn't do this. 416 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 1: It's all right for him. He's Craig Harper, or she's 417 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,639 Speaker 1: Tip Cook, or you know, she's Kelly Smith or whatever 418 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 1: the story is. We're always finding a way remember stories 419 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 1: and facts. We're always finding a way to justify what 420 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 1: we're not doing. And then we're fifty and then we 421 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: get grumpy at people like me because we're pushing buttons 422 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 1: and it's like, well, what the fuck do you want? 423 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:22,400 Speaker 1: Like do you really want a better life? Well, for 424 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 1: fuck's sake, stop talking and thinking and almost doing it. 425 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,880 Speaker 1: Like what has to happen? Do you have to get sick? 426 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 1: Do you have to almost die? Does there need to 427 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 1: be a catastrophe? Because every fucking person listening to this 428 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 1: can do better. Every person nobody listening to this has 429 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 1: peaked nobody. Now that doesn't mean everybody listening to this 430 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,119 Speaker 1: needs to do something, but there are a lot of 431 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 1: people who listen to or read or watch or whatever 432 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 1: it is that they're putting into their consciousness so much stuff, 433 00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 1: but we spin our wheels. I feel like I've gotten 434 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 1: off track, girl, and I feel like I've gotten back 435 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:05,159 Speaker 1: on my high horse. And I apologize, but I feel 436 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 1: like it was good there. I had a little coaching moment. 437 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 1: I'll step down and be quiet and just dive into 438 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:10,920 Speaker 1: the typ bean bag. 439 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 4: That it's good though, because. 440 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:20,360 Speaker 3: Retelling that story to yourself is exactly what I've been 441 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 3: doing these past few months and really trying to keep 442 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 3: the momentum going of having this opportunity with you guys. 443 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,640 Speaker 3: And for a long time, there's been things that I've 444 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 3: been really wanting to do and I'm like, I can't 445 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,400 Speaker 3: do that because someone's going to say it's really shit 446 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 3: and why would anyone want to look at my face 447 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 3: or hear my voice or give a shit about anything 448 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 3: that I'm doing. And then slowly I've been reframing that 449 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 3: into I give a shit about it, and I really 450 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:53,640 Speaker 3: enjoy this and I'm getting a lot out of this, 451 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 3: and i really. 452 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 4: Want to do this. 453 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 3: So what's stopping me when I've got such a great 454 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 3: opportunity and I've got all of the tools right. 455 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:07,640 Speaker 4: In front of me to be able to do it. 456 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 3: So I've reframed that, and I've really been pushing myself 457 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 3: to create something every day. And whether I share it 458 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,440 Speaker 3: or not is a different story. But I'm pushing myself 459 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 3: to do that. And even when I was away, it 460 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 3: was just taking little notes about well, what am I 461 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 3: seeing and how is this different to my everyday life? 462 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 3: And you know what's that like over there? And is 463 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,400 Speaker 3: you know, how's that person interacting with that person, and 464 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 3: what am I actually getting out of this experience that's 465 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 3: that's bigger. 466 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 4: Than me that I can take into. 467 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,199 Speaker 3: And that was probably another really big question that I 468 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,959 Speaker 3: had about the time I was away, and it was like, 469 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 3: I've got this wonderful feeling where I'm stepping out of 470 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 3: my comfort zone and it's really lovely and I feel 471 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 3: really empowered. 472 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 4: And I know it's. 473 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 3: Because I'm not seeing or dealing with anyone that I 474 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:01,439 Speaker 3: would normally see in my everyday life. But why can't 475 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 3: I take this attitude and this feeling back home? And 476 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 3: so that is again part of this reframing of the story. 477 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 1: I think part of the human experience, A big part 478 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 1: of the human experience is because we're emotional. Right, It 479 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:20,120 Speaker 1: doesn't matter how logical and intellectual and strategic we are 480 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 1: on this show and we talk about it, but at 481 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 1: the end of the day, I get off here and 482 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 1: I'm more emotional than I am logical. That doesn't mean 483 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 1: I'm controlled by emotions, but we are all. I think 484 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 1: human beings are more emotional and social creatures than we 485 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,640 Speaker 1: are intellectual, Which is not say we're stupid. We're clearly 486 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 1: not stupid, but this is why so many people, when 487 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:51,399 Speaker 1: they get out of the emotional state of motivation, just 488 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 1: stop doing what they need to do to live their 489 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 1: best life or actually their goals or get where they 490 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 1: say they want to go right. And so we are 491 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:03,400 Speaker 1: so controlled by these fluctuating states that we call emotions. 492 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 1: We need to find a way to be able to 493 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:11,120 Speaker 1: in the middle of our emotion turn the volume down 494 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,959 Speaker 1: a little bit, feel what we feel, acknowledge what's going on. 495 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 1: We're not pretending we're not emotional. We're not pretending we're 496 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,439 Speaker 1: not anxious when we are anxious. We're not pretending that 497 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 1: things are great when they're shit. But we need to 498 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 1: find a way in the middle of the peaks and 499 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,399 Speaker 1: troughs of the emotional experience that is being human. We 500 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,439 Speaker 1: need to find a way to keep doing what works, 501 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:33,679 Speaker 1: and we need to find a way to move forward 502 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:37,119 Speaker 1: with the program or the protocol or the framework or 503 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 1: the to do list or whatever it is, because so 504 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 1: many of us are held to ransom by how we 505 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:48,120 Speaker 1: feel on a day, and how I feel today will 506 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 1: determine what I do now. If that happens four days 507 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 1: a week, my emotions and my feelings are controlling my behavior, 508 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 1: then your emotions and feelings are controlling your outcomes, which 509 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,920 Speaker 1: is controlling your reality. Now, we're not trying to turn 510 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 1: everyone into cyborgs, because I just said I'm more emotional 511 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 1: than logical. But I want to be able to acknowledge 512 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 1: my emotions, my feelings, my fears, my anxiety, my self doubt, 513 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 1: my internal bullshit, while still intellectually understanding that I'm okay, 514 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 1: I'm pretty good. I'm not a terrible human. I'm not 515 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 1: terrible at podcasting. Sometimes I'm not great. Sometimes I'm fucking brilliant, 516 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 1: let's be honest. Sometimes I'm funny. Sometimes I'm a dickhead, right, 517 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 1: But it's being able to self regulate and ride these 518 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 1: peaks and troughs of the human experience that usually shows 519 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 1: up in the form of, you know, some kind of emotion, 520 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 1: and it's the challenge is not to be perpetually focused 521 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 1: and disciplined and in the zone and you know, just 522 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: full of fucking self control and resilience. And because that's 523 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 1: a ridiculous unachieved aspiration, But what's a better aspiration is 524 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 1: to go, well, look, I'm pretty fucking human, and there's 525 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 1: a fair chance tomorrow I'm going to get up after 526 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 1: I listened to Craig and Tiff and Kelly, and despite 527 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 1: the fact that I'm in the zone and pumped and 528 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 1: excited now, either tomorrow or the day after, I'm not 529 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 1: going to be. So what I'm interested in is not 530 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 1: what people do after they listen to this show because 531 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 1: they're pump focused in the zone or whatever. I'm interested 532 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 1: in next Friday, when all this shit is just a 533 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:35,479 Speaker 1: distant memory. So it is. I believe that success is 534 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 1: so much about our ability to keep doing the things 535 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 1: that we want to stop doing, and to be the 536 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 1: person who when everyone else gets to a particular stage, 537 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 1: an emotional state, a stage of their journey, when they 538 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 1: would step down, it's how challenge to step up? And 539 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 1: that is just how long can you keep going? How 540 00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:00,040 Speaker 1: resilient can you be? What can you do when and 541 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 1: you can't be bothered, like when you really feel like 542 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 1: giving up, when no one's watching, when no one's cheering, 543 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 1: when no one's telling you you're good, when there's no validation, 544 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 1: even when you're not getting good results, What can you 545 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 1: do then? Because it's in all of those different emotional 546 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 1: and psychological spaces where people would go, oh, it's totally 547 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 1: reasonable that you gave up, or that you stopped because 548 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 1: it wasn't working, or because this, or because your back 549 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 1: was sore, or because fuck it's cold, or because and 550 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 1: then we're fifty, and this is my That was my 551 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 1: fear for me. I was terrified of waking up at 552 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 1: forty or fifty and being a nobody doing nothing, And 553 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 1: not because I thought I was destined for greatness, but 554 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 1: because I knew I had potential. I knew I had potential, 555 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 1: and I know that when I was young, nobody else 556 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 1: thought I had potential, and that scared me, you know. 557 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 1: So it's just like this is all of these things 558 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 1: that we all. You know, you feel it, tip feels 559 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 1: that I feel it. You get up and you're like, 560 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 1: I'm not feeling it today. Cool? Great, great? So today 561 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 1: when you're not feeling it, how fucking awesome can you 562 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 1: be today? That's the great question. And we've got to 563 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 1: keep going to the wall, like we've got to keep 564 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 1: going to the fucking room of mirrors and have a 565 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 1: look at ourselves. And it sounds all very gung ho, 566 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 1: Craig Harprish, but tell me how else it works. Like 567 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 1: if we're not doing the work, if we're not making 568 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 1: the decisions. If we're not rolling up our sleeves, if 569 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,959 Speaker 1: we're not getting courageous, if we're not producing the outcomes, 570 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 1: how the fuck else do we succeed? There is no 571 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 1: other way. Nobody can make success for you. Nobody can 572 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 1: lose weight for you. Nobody can do a PhD for you, 573 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 1: Nobody can build a business for you. Nobody can do 574 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 1: the work like. This is the uncomfortable reality that people 575 00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 1: try and avoid by taking the fuck and easy path, 576 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 1: or the instant gratification path, or the dopamine button. Good luck. 577 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 1: After you've pressed the dopamine button for fucking ten years, 578 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 1: then what now I'm addicted to seventeen different things? Tiff? 579 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 2: How do you walk the line between knowing really knowing 580 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 2: when it's appropriate to push and change your circumstances and 581 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 2: when it's appropriate to sit down and change your expectations? 582 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 1: Like? 583 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 2: How long can you let your expectations run the show 584 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 2: and in a toxic way before you go? Fuck? It 585 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 2: doesn't matter what. I'm never going to be happy and 586 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 2: pushing through and soldiering on is not going to be 587 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 2: the answer. 588 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 1: Well, I think quite often we head down a road 589 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 1: me included, and we get halfway down the road and 590 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 1: we realize, oh, this is not the road for me, 591 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 1: or I'm climbing the wrong mountain, and that's okay too. 592 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:53,480 Speaker 1: That's not giving up. That's awareness. It's like I've started 593 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 1: things and I've got somewhat into the thing, and I realized, no, 594 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 1: this isn't for me. This isn't It's not that I'm scared, 595 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 1: or it's not that I'm maybe you can't do it. 596 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 1: It's just that this is not this is not for me. 597 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 1: And I think, you know, to be able to have 598 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 1: that situational awareness and figure out that you know, for 599 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 1: me in this, in this moment in time or on 600 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 1: this part of my journey, this is not a good 601 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 1: use of me. And I think also, you know, we 602 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 1: need to pay attention to the data. We need to 603 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 1: pay attention to the results there are. I mean, I've 604 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 1: done many things that failed, and I've done other things 605 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 1: that worked. But then you know, things have a used 606 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 1: by date. Like I used to love running gyms, I 607 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 1: used to love being on the gym floor, I used 608 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 1: to love coaching people. I used to love and then 609 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 1: I got to the point where I didn't. And it 610 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 1: wasn't that it was bad. It's just like, Okay, this 611 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 1: is not I need to learn and grow and evolve 612 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 1: in other ways and other environments and doing different things. 613 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 1: And it's not that owning a gym is bad or 614 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 1: training clients or athletes is bad. It's all fucking amazing. 615 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 1: But it's for me. It's reached its use by date. 616 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,720 Speaker 1: And I think that's just part of evolution, and that's 617 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:08,840 Speaker 1: part of you growing and learning but also being able 618 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 1: to you know, I could listen to you way more 619 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,919 Speaker 1: things that I've done that didn't work than things that did. 620 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 1: And you know, like even with this this podcast, it 621 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:22,360 Speaker 1: would have been very reasonable after five hundred episodes to 622 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,439 Speaker 1: go all right, I gave it a good go five 623 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 1: hundred episodes, like we're making no money because it took 624 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 1: us six hundred dollars before it was profit sorry, six 625 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:36,640 Speaker 1: hundred episodes before it was profitable. So you know, I 626 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 1: think there's that. I think there's just paying attention to 627 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,919 Speaker 1: the results and the data as well. And I think 628 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,920 Speaker 1: maybe like sometimes when you just go and go and go, 629 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 1: and you realize, well, this is never going to work. 630 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter how hard I try, Well, that that's 631 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 1: a different thing, you know, And that's just acknowledging that 632 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 1: either this isn't possible and that's okay, or it's very 633 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:02,399 Speaker 1: very unlikely, or perhaps my strategy is wrong. 634 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 2: Perhaps I'm you and our psychology like some sometimes we 635 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:11,839 Speaker 2: have a story that we're spending our lives affirming. So 636 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:15,840 Speaker 2: everything I do not me specifically, but there can be 637 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 2: people who everything they do is really unconsciously to prove 638 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,400 Speaker 2: to themselves that they will not make it, They. 639 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 4: Are not worthy. 640 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,840 Speaker 2: It will not be easy, that shit all of the things. 641 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:32,560 Speaker 2: And yes, yeah, so getting and that you can't get 642 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 2: a coach or a person that knows that about you, 643 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 2: But sometimes you don't know that about you. 644 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,839 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, And I think when your story is I'm shit, 645 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 1: you find evidence to support your story. Correct, You look 646 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:50,440 Speaker 1: for evidence and whether or not that's within or without. Yeah, 647 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 1: But I think also a big part of this journey 648 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 1: of becoming and whatever that I hate all these cliches everyone, 649 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,760 Speaker 1: so I apologize. But whatever success is for you, right, 650 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,279 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter what it is. It only matters to 651 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,400 Speaker 1: you and whatever a better version of you or a 652 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:10,959 Speaker 1: better life, whatever that means to you. But is being 653 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 1: able to do stuff where you get embarrassed, you get scared, 654 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:19,160 Speaker 1: you get humiliated, you get all of the things that 655 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:24,080 Speaker 1: you don't want, and you go, that's okay, that's okay, 656 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 1: I don't want this, but this is part of it, 657 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 1: you know that. It's like, back to your story of boxing. 658 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,240 Speaker 1: How did you get good at boxing? Well, you started 659 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 1: by being shit, and you got beaten, and you got skilled, 660 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,080 Speaker 1: and you got schooled, and you had a whole lot 661 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 1: of you know, I guess, mental emotional and physical pain. 662 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:45,880 Speaker 1: And through the middle of that and all the training 663 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:47,600 Speaker 1: and all the fights and all of that, you develop 664 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:51,480 Speaker 1: skill and ring craft and awareness and the right kind 665 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:55,480 Speaker 1: of fitness and strength and confidence and competence. And eventually, 666 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,359 Speaker 1: after being shit, you become less shit, and then less shit, 667 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 1: then eventually not terrible, then kind of okay, and then wow, 668 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:05,439 Speaker 1: not bad, then kind of good, and then for who 669 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,360 Speaker 1: you were and what you had to work with, really 670 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,279 Speaker 1: fucking good and winning titles. Right, But you had to 671 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,719 Speaker 1: go through all the shits. And it ain't about boxing. 672 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,680 Speaker 1: It's about growth. It's about being prepared to do what's 673 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 1: required to get to where I want to go now. 674 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,480 Speaker 1: And you started late. Imagine if you started when you're eighteen, 675 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,600 Speaker 1: you could have perhaps who knows has been a fucking 676 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:29,319 Speaker 1: world champion, who knows. Like I didn't write my first 677 00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,400 Speaker 1: book till I was Nelly forty, and people used to 678 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,200 Speaker 1: say to me, and they weren't I mean, they weren't 679 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:37,840 Speaker 1: trying to reign on my parade. I think it's just 680 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,600 Speaker 1: how they thought it's very hard to get a book 681 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:44,200 Speaker 1: published if you're not a published author. I'm like, that's 682 00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:47,520 Speaker 1: the dumbest shit ever, because everybody had at some stage, 683 00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:49,600 Speaker 1: every author wrote a first book. 684 00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:50,319 Speaker 2: You know. 685 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:55,640 Speaker 1: And it's like everyone, you know, JK. Rowlings wrote a 686 00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:59,000 Speaker 1: first book. Everyone wrote a first book, and everyone that 687 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,640 Speaker 1: is a published author I had a chance somehow or 688 00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:07,600 Speaker 1: they created one or anyway. Sorry, Kelly, we've actually hijacked 689 00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:08,680 Speaker 1: to your moment in the sun. 690 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:12,719 Speaker 4: This is great. I'd like sitting here. I'm sitting here 691 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:14,359 Speaker 4: just absorbing at all. 692 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:19,680 Speaker 3: What I do want to ask you both though, is yeah, absolutely, 693 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,160 Speaker 3: it's you know, stepping into that room and looking at 694 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:25,000 Speaker 3: yourself and asking yourself those questions about you know, what 695 00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:27,640 Speaker 3: is it that I'm telling myself around whether I can 696 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,959 Speaker 3: or I can't, and just showing up every day, which 697 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:34,799 Speaker 3: goes back to the initial thing I said about a 698 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:36,600 Speaker 3: little bit of effort and how you can get so 699 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,480 Speaker 3: much back from it, But what do you both do 700 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:48,480 Speaker 3: on the days where you just really really don't want to. 701 00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:46,600 Speaker 1: To if you go first? 702 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:53,520 Speaker 2: I feel like it's almost the opposite to me. I'm 703 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:57,960 Speaker 2: in that adjusting expectations phase where I've made changes to 704 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:04,640 Speaker 2: be okay with doing less and reprioritizing, and then still 705 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,960 Speaker 2: in recent times coming up with oh, you're like, you 706 00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:11,000 Speaker 2: just you get trained. You train yourself in a behavior 707 00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:14,200 Speaker 2: so strongly that I have just been on the go 708 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:17,200 Speaker 2: and chase and achieve and do and do every minute 709 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:21,560 Speaker 2: of the day, and it's put me in a space 710 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,880 Speaker 2: of rushing all the time. I'm always rushing, excited, like 711 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:28,600 Speaker 2: I'm excited until I'm exhausted, and then I'm like, how 712 00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:34,319 Speaker 2: did we get here? So it's, you know, everything's doing 713 00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,359 Speaker 2: the hard things hard until not doing the hard thing 714 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:40,520 Speaker 2: is harder, and stopping doing the hard thing, Like that's 715 00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:44,600 Speaker 2: what I'm The basis of my current kenot is how 716 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,640 Speaker 2: what's the hard thing that I pretend I'm doing that's 717 00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,560 Speaker 2: really the hard thing would be to stop it? 718 00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:55,160 Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, yeah. 719 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:58,800 Speaker 3: I just wonder for people that are listening who maybe 720 00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:05,680 Speaker 3: are absolutely terrified about starting or stopping something that have 721 00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:11,480 Speaker 3: those days of almost being you know, they just physically 722 00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:16,239 Speaker 3: can't or they mentally can't. Because I think that the 723 00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,560 Speaker 3: three of us are probably in spaces where we seek 724 00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:23,200 Speaker 3: out to be learning more, doing more, pushing ourselves like 725 00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:26,160 Speaker 3: I know, for instance, like I push myself to do 726 00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:30,120 Speaker 3: everything that I want to achieve. And again it's a story, right, 727 00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:35,400 Speaker 3: but yeah, I just find it so fascinating around just 728 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,839 Speaker 3: being able to keep putting that one foot in front 729 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,080 Speaker 3: of the other, and whether it's like it's a relearning 730 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,440 Speaker 3: or it's just this is what I do now, or 731 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,200 Speaker 3: this is what I have to do because not doing 732 00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:48,719 Speaker 3: it is going to be harder. Yeah, it's a really 733 00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:52,480 Speaker 3: fascinating thing for me to know what gives people that 734 00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:55,799 Speaker 3: drive on the days that they potentially can't even get 735 00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:59,480 Speaker 3: out of bed, like they're just frozen almost. 736 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,439 Speaker 1: I think sometimes doing nothing is wisdom not weakness, right, 737 00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,719 Speaker 1: And there are times when doing nothing is weakness not wisdom, right. 738 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:10,600 Speaker 1: So it's like there are times when you shouldn't train, 739 00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,320 Speaker 1: there are times where you should have a day or 740 00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,200 Speaker 1: a week off. There are times when hey don't make 741 00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:19,040 Speaker 1: any hard decisions today. But I think when you do 742 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:24,000 Speaker 1: that consciously and intentionally and you've thought that through. This 743 00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:27,319 Speaker 1: is not a response or a reaction, or this is 744 00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,880 Speaker 1: not coming out of laziness or fear. This is like, oh, yeah, well, 745 00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:34,239 Speaker 1: of course I can't redline all the time. And while 746 00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,600 Speaker 1: I talk about having the crack and da da dah, 747 00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,240 Speaker 1: I'm also the big you know. I did a podcast 748 00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:43,640 Speaker 1: a few I don't know, weeks months ago, and I 749 00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:45,960 Speaker 1: think it was called there was something around the idea 750 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:49,200 Speaker 1: of having fuck all days where you do fuck all. 751 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,080 Speaker 1: It's like, what are you doing? Fuck all? But gladly 752 00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:55,319 Speaker 1: do fuck all? You know. It's like, oh, today's a 753 00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:57,640 Speaker 1: fuck all day. I'm going to watch Netflix. I'm going 754 00:41:57,719 --> 00:41:59,640 Speaker 1: to put my toes in the water, I'm going to 755 00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,640 Speaker 1: fuck can eat food. I'm not going to the gym. 756 00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:04,920 Speaker 1: I'm going to ring mum and talk shit to her 757 00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,799 Speaker 1: and doesn't and cool, That's what I'm doing. But I'm 758 00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,080 Speaker 1: not doing a month of that, do you know what 759 00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:12,200 Speaker 1: I mean? So I think to be able to and 760 00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:18,360 Speaker 1: this comes back to living consciously and intentionally, where I 761 00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:21,399 Speaker 1: would never suggest anybody redlines or has their foot flat 762 00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:24,439 Speaker 1: to the metaphoric floor. You know, seven days a week, 763 00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:26,759 Speaker 1: or six or even five days a week necessarily, it's 764 00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,400 Speaker 1: like think about you know, and if you get up 765 00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,719 Speaker 1: and your body is genuinely your body is going no, 766 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:37,080 Speaker 1: not today. Well that's just that's biological insight. That's not weakness. 767 00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,040 Speaker 1: But that's not the same as I can't be fucked. 768 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,960 Speaker 1: That's different. Go on, Tiff, I feel like, yeah, I'm 769 00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:44,560 Speaker 1: going to say. 770 00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:47,560 Speaker 2: To probably to more specifically answer your question for me, Kelly, 771 00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:51,399 Speaker 2: is I'd always lean on and remind myself of what 772 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,560 Speaker 2: I learned through boxing. Like, every single time I got 773 00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:58,279 Speaker 2: in a car to go to boxing training, I hated it. 774 00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,719 Speaker 2: I was like, I'm tired, I don't want to go this, 775 00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,440 Speaker 2: I couldn't want to go less and every time I 776 00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:07,360 Speaker 2: left training was I couldn't wait to get back. So 777 00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:09,960 Speaker 2: I remind myself, well, you know that thing you love 778 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:13,359 Speaker 2: the most, you know how every single time you had 779 00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,600 Speaker 2: to do it you hated it. That's what it takes. 780 00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:19,319 Speaker 2: That's what it takes to get what you want when 781 00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:20,400 Speaker 2: you know what that is. 782 00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:26,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and you think about again the old if 783 00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:28,319 Speaker 1: we had one hundred people in a room and you said, 784 00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:31,680 Speaker 1: to the hundred people, who wants to be physically mentally 785 00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:35,319 Speaker 1: and emotionally stronger and more resilient and more capable. And 786 00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:39,320 Speaker 1: everyone puts up their hand because everyone likes the idea 787 00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:42,160 Speaker 1: of that. And then you go, right now, who's going 788 00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:45,319 Speaker 1: to fully commit to the work. It's like all the 789 00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:49,520 Speaker 1: hands stayed down. This is a podcast. This is like, 790 00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:53,759 Speaker 1: it's the theory of change, and that's that, you know. 791 00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:57,640 Speaker 1: And I just think for people, I think people get 792 00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:01,560 Speaker 1: and I completely understand this. People get overwhelmed by the 793 00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:05,520 Speaker 1: magnitude of the work ahead of them, especially when they're 794 00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:09,680 Speaker 1: coming from a long way back. You know, it's like, oh, fuck, yeah, 795 00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,520 Speaker 1: that's cool, Craig. But I can't even walk a kilometer 796 00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:16,920 Speaker 1: without having a rest. Great, Like, that's called baseline data. 797 00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:18,680 Speaker 1: So what can you do? Oh, well, I can walk 798 00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:20,840 Speaker 1: about five hundred meters? I go, well, well done you. 799 00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:24,480 Speaker 1: How often do you do that? I don't. Okay, So 800 00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:29,719 Speaker 1: why don't you three times a day walk five hundred meters? Great? Well, 801 00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,279 Speaker 1: that's a kilometer and a half a day. That's ten 802 00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:35,480 Speaker 1: and a half k's a week. You know, that's over 803 00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:39,319 Speaker 1: forty kilometers a month. Fuck, that's amazing. Let's start like 804 00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:41,960 Speaker 1: what it's not like, oh, let's run a marathon. Let's 805 00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,759 Speaker 1: build a brand. It's let's become a fucking influencer. It's like, 806 00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:46,960 Speaker 1: what can you do? What can you do well? I 807 00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:50,280 Speaker 1: can do three push ups leaning against the wall. Well done, 808 00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:53,400 Speaker 1: let's start there. I can stand on one foot and 809 00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:56,520 Speaker 1: balance for twelve seconds. Fuck go you, let's do that. 810 00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:59,480 Speaker 1: What else can you do? Well? I guess I can 811 00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:03,319 Speaker 1: read a bo I can read five pages. Fuck yeah, 812 00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:06,600 Speaker 1: read five pages? Like what can you do? What? Like? 813 00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:10,000 Speaker 1: What can you do? I trained a guy called Ben. 814 00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:15,040 Speaker 1: I've told this story maybe twice. He came to me. 815 00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:18,800 Speaker 1: He was over two hundred kilos, over two hundred kilos, 816 00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:25,000 Speaker 1: young man, early twenties, maybe late maybe nineteen. Anyway, he 817 00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:28,080 Speaker 1: came to me, His mum came to me, and they're like, basically, 818 00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:31,759 Speaker 1: is there any point like could you work with him? 819 00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,719 Speaker 1: I'm like, of course I can work with him. Fuck yeah, 820 00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:37,920 Speaker 1: I'm excited to work with him. And it's just like 821 00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:41,960 Speaker 1: for me, that was so much fun and so enjoyable 822 00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:45,399 Speaker 1: and so exciting because I'm like, hey, bro, what can 823 00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:48,759 Speaker 1: you do? I'm like, here's ten stairs, can you get 824 00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,400 Speaker 1: up them? He's like he got up the ten stairs. 825 00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:54,160 Speaker 1: I'm like, fucking high five dude, get the up, butter Cup, 826 00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:56,719 Speaker 1: look at you like a fucking gang star, right, all 827 00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,839 Speaker 1: of a sudden, Like for that dude to walk ten 828 00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:04,360 Speaker 1: stairs is like Tiff running three k's right. So it's like, 829 00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:06,560 Speaker 1: what can you do? What can you do? I can 830 00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,600 Speaker 1: do ten? Great? Now can you come back down. Let's 831 00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:11,680 Speaker 1: have a little drink of water, Let's have a chat. 832 00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,680 Speaker 1: Now can you do that again? Cool? And so today 833 00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:17,120 Speaker 1: we did four times ten. We did forty steps, which 834 00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:19,920 Speaker 1: is forty more than you did yesterday. Now can you 835 00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:24,160 Speaker 1: lift this weight? Now? Can you let's go for a walk. 836 00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:26,319 Speaker 1: Let's see how far we can. Let's do a four 837 00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:29,400 Speaker 1: minute walk and see if you can walk four minutes NonStop. 838 00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:31,960 Speaker 1: You did, well done. I'm writing and in the diary 839 00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:35,759 Speaker 1: this is day one of you fuck better butter Cup. 840 00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:41,080 Speaker 1: Did my microphone just change Tiff just briefly? Yeah? Sorry? 841 00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:44,680 Speaker 1: But I mean that's the thing, like, get fucking excited. 842 00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:48,000 Speaker 1: What can you do? It doesn't matter what other people do. 843 00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:52,600 Speaker 1: The only person you should compare yourself to, you compare 844 00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:56,600 Speaker 1: yourself to is you, And then that way you're moving 845 00:46:56,640 --> 00:47:01,120 Speaker 1: forward in a positive emotional and psychological and also space. 846 00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:05,359 Speaker 1: But also it's just intelligent because the body that you've 847 00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:07,400 Speaker 1: only got one body, and that's the body you're working with, 848 00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:09,520 Speaker 1: or only one brain, or only one mind, or only 849 00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:13,120 Speaker 1: one intellect, or only one creative capacity, whatever it is 850 00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:16,399 Speaker 1: that you're working with, that's all you've got to work with. 851 00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:21,200 Speaker 1: So just compare current you with yesterday's you and tomorrow 852 00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,919 Speaker 1: with yesterday's you, and then we get a real sense 853 00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:27,400 Speaker 1: of progress and achievement. And that makes sense. And going 854 00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:31,000 Speaker 1: from you know, whether or not it's walking for three minutes, 855 00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:34,160 Speaker 1: or whether or not it's it's reading a book in 856 00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:37,719 Speaker 1: a year, or whether or not it's having a hard conversation, 857 00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:41,319 Speaker 1: it's only relative to the person in the middle of it. 858 00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:45,520 Speaker 3: And you know, that's the answer to what I was 859 00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:49,359 Speaker 3: just asking. On the days that you really don't want to, 860 00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:51,200 Speaker 3: it's just a question of what can you do? 861 00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,480 Speaker 1: Open ten dollars for that answer, No worries. 862 00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:56,400 Speaker 4: I think that's great. 863 00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:59,640 Speaker 3: I think that you can apply that to everything, and 864 00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:03,080 Speaker 3: it's just a matter of the effort and the intent 865 00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:05,799 Speaker 3: that Yeah, there we go, look at that. 866 00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:07,080 Speaker 1: Yeahreate you. 867 00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:08,560 Speaker 4: Thanks, Thanks guys. 868 00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:11,480 Speaker 1: I feel like we uh and by we I mean 869 00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:14,960 Speaker 1: me hijacked. Have you got another question? And both of us, 870 00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:18,200 Speaker 1: will shut up while you asked the question and actually 871 00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:19,399 Speaker 1: let you have some mere time. 872 00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:23,200 Speaker 4: I'm enjoying you. Though it's great, I feel a bit. 873 00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,520 Speaker 3: I feel a bit rusty having come back from, you know, 874 00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:29,440 Speaker 3: three weeks on the Carbonara tour and it was let 875 00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:31,000 Speaker 3: me tell you, it was the Carbonara tour. 876 00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:32,879 Speaker 4: It was great. Did you put on. 877 00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:36,160 Speaker 1: Did you put on weight? Mary? Mary would say, did 878 00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:38,520 Speaker 1: you put on any weight while you're away? Mary rang 879 00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:41,640 Speaker 1: me just before canell? Do you know? Can I just no, 880 00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:43,839 Speaker 1: I's going to hijack it again. Remind me to tell 881 00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:46,600 Speaker 1: you the Mary story. Tip tell us about the Carbonara 882 00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:48,759 Speaker 1: Bloody Tour. I did. 883 00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:51,239 Speaker 3: Let let Mary know that I indulged in a lot 884 00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:57,360 Speaker 3: of Carbonara daily Carbonara feasts, and I have returned a 885 00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:00,920 Speaker 3: little bit heavier, but you know, so what, it was enjoyable. 886 00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:04,720 Speaker 3: It was so enjoyable. And I've come back and started 887 00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:07,520 Speaker 3: back at the gym, which is also very enjoyable. And 888 00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:10,640 Speaker 3: it's such a beautiful community of people there. They walked 889 00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:13,160 Speaker 3: in and they're like, oh my god, you're back. 890 00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:15,080 Speaker 4: We missed you. How was it? And I was like, 891 00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:16,160 Speaker 4: oh that's nice. 892 00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:18,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's good, isn't it. 893 00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:18,640 Speaker 4: Yeah? 894 00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:23,040 Speaker 1: I've never been to Italy. Been to Europe, but I 895 00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:26,200 Speaker 1: haven't been to Italy. Is the pastor as good as 896 00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:29,239 Speaker 1: they say? Like everyone's like, oh, it's different, it's not 897 00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:32,279 Speaker 1: the same, Like you cannot understand is it that good? 898 00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:33,640 Speaker 4: It's better? 899 00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:34,680 Speaker 1: Really? 900 00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:42,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, different ingredients, different way of cooking. It's very simple 901 00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:44,240 Speaker 3: food done really really well. 902 00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:46,600 Speaker 4: Yeah. 903 00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:49,120 Speaker 1: Wow, all right, I'll bet a prodominal list. All right, 904 00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:53,680 Speaker 1: let's here's my Mary story before we go. So Mary 905 00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:56,960 Speaker 1: rang me just before I was out traversing suburbia like 906 00:49:56,960 --> 00:50:00,560 Speaker 1: a fucking weirdo that I am with my beanie on, 907 00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:04,920 Speaker 1: my headphones on, looking like fucking the Hampton Terrorist. Anyway, 908 00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:10,120 Speaker 1: Mary rings and she goes, oh, you off to Queensland tomorrow? 909 00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:13,680 Speaker 1: And I go yep. She goes, all right, well I 910 00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:15,839 Speaker 1: thought i'd ring before you go. I go, mum, you can. 911 00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:17,799 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter where I am, you can ring, right, 912 00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:20,759 Speaker 1: It's like my phone works in Queensland. She thinks she 913 00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:23,040 Speaker 1: has to call me before I go and after I 914 00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:26,319 Speaker 1: get back that doesn't want to bother me. I go, mum, 915 00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:30,080 Speaker 1: I'm actually got more free time when I'm away. So anyway, 916 00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:34,360 Speaker 1: She's like, all right, all right, then I'll my Mum's 917 00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:36,000 Speaker 1: way of saying I'm going to pray for you is 918 00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:38,400 Speaker 1: I'll send a few up for you. And she's like, 919 00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:40,960 Speaker 1: and I don't know, but in Catholicism there are all 920 00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:45,640 Speaker 1: these patron saints of different things, right, So she goes, 921 00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:47,960 Speaker 1: I'll say a prayer to Sir Anthony, and she goes, all, 922 00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:51,040 Speaker 1: not Sir Anthony. She goes, who's the patron saint of 923 00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:54,480 Speaker 1: travel again, and then it's like, Saint Christopher. I'll pray 924 00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:57,080 Speaker 1: to Saint Christopher for you. I'm like, you do that, Mary, 925 00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:00,719 Speaker 1: I go, what about Jesus? She goes, yeah, him too. 926 00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:06,080 Speaker 1: But you know, I'm like, all right, well, let's let's 927 00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:08,680 Speaker 1: just bang out a couples to Saint Christopher. He's the 928 00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:11,879 Speaker 1: patron saint of travel and St Anthony, Tiff and kel 929 00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:16,000 Speaker 1: and listeners. Apparently he's the saint when you lose something 930 00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:18,360 Speaker 1: and you can't find it, you say prayer to Saint. 931 00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:21,839 Speaker 2: Anthony to befriend Saint Anthony, just to. 932 00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:25,320 Speaker 1: Keep everyone in the loop. According to Mary anyway, I 933 00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:29,040 Speaker 1: don't quote me exactly, but I think that's that's how 934 00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:32,520 Speaker 1: it goes. So, and can I say to you when 935 00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:35,000 Speaker 1: she says I'm going to pray to Saint Anthony for you. 936 00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:39,320 Speaker 1: She's not being hilarious and funny. She's like she's giving 937 00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:43,080 Speaker 1: me her like spiritual covering so that when I'm away, 938 00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:47,080 Speaker 1: I'm going to be protected. Oh. I love her so much. 939 00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:48,320 Speaker 4: That's beautiful. 940 00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:50,960 Speaker 1: Who's going to pray for me? When Mary buys the farm? 941 00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:54,759 Speaker 1: When she goes to that big bloody you know cathedral 942 00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:56,160 Speaker 1: in the sky. 943 00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:59,319 Speaker 4: She'll she'll be sending prayers down. That's right, Yeah, she'll 944 00:51:59,360 --> 00:51:59,680 Speaker 4: be sending. 945 00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:02,799 Speaker 1: That'll make me more nervous because she'll know everything I'm 946 00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:05,520 Speaker 1: fucking doing, because with her little beady eyes from her 947 00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:07,279 Speaker 1: cloud up there, she'll just be watching me. 948 00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:09,040 Speaker 2: She might be sitting in the bamboom. 949 00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:14,480 Speaker 1: Oh, I don't know how we're talking about my mum's 950 00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:16,799 Speaker 1: death now. I feel like that's taken a dark turn. 951 00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:20,719 Speaker 1: But she's still here and we love her. Let's hope 952 00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:22,880 Speaker 1: she's here for a long time. And Ronnie as well. 953 00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:28,120 Speaker 1: Oh that got bad quick, didn't it. Oh, let's chop 954 00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:31,680 Speaker 1: that out. No, Hey, everyone, thanks so much for joining us. 955 00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:33,920 Speaker 1: Kel I'm glad you're back. We're glad you had a 956 00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:34,480 Speaker 1: good trip. 957 00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:35,200 Speaker 4: Thank you. 958 00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:40,719 Speaker 1: I'm so glad you put on ten kilos via the pasta. No, 959 00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:43,160 Speaker 1: you didn't, you don't. You don't look like you've gained anything, 960 00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:47,480 Speaker 1: which is very annoying. But next time you travel, let 961 00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:49,480 Speaker 1: Mary know and she'll send a few up for you. 962 00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:52,000 Speaker 4: I'll request it, absolutely all right. 963 00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:55,840 Speaker 1: Thanks everyone, Thanks TIV, thank you Sarah,