Speaker 1: Welcome back back Fences. Look, we've just waited to do
Speaker 1: this podcast to see what the new Soal's team is.
Speaker 1: We're going to do a bit of a reaction to
Speaker 1: the announcement the Blues obviously Queensland are going to be
Speaker 1: tomorrow when recording this their team announcement. We've also got
Speaker 1: some mail on some transfer whispers before June thirty at
Speaker 1: different clubs, some big injury news over the weekend and
Speaker 1: some of the results, as well as a little bit
Speaker 1: of an update on where we think the competition's at
Speaker 1: the moment, and some big news out of the TV
Speaker 1: rights deal Matthew. But the new Sol's Blues side, we're
Speaker 1: about to read through it. But initial reaction, what do
Speaker 1: you think?
Speaker 2: Look, there's there's some surprises and there's no doubt about it.
Speaker 2: I think Laurie will play, and I'll explain it a
Speaker 2: little bit later when we get into it. I think
Speaker 2: he'll play. I think he'll play Ducks and drakes a
Speaker 2: little bit here in that in game two we thought
Speaker 2: he'd do a little bit shifting around the last minute.
Speaker 2: He didn't. I think he will here do you think yep?
Speaker 2: I think he will. There's some surprise selections. But there's
Speaker 2: a method there. Let's get into it. Let's talk.
Speaker 1: Let's read. Let's read number one, James Tedesco.
Speaker 2: Number just on Tedesco, I was of I thought that
Speaker 2: Dylan Edwards. I probably would have brought him in. However,
Speaker 2: you know, it was bad timing. Dylan and Panthers lost
Speaker 2: to the Cowboys, and he was underwhelming, what not one
Speaker 2: of his better games, and I probably thought that was enough.
Speaker 2: And Todsco was really strong. He was he was out
Speaker 2: on Fox Sports our high flyer of the round, got
Speaker 2: the most points for players under pressure, and so I
Speaker 2: suppose that for me is undereniable.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the wingers, this is the biggest talking point, Mark Nagan,
Speaker 1: he played in game two, Jackie Bostock coming in to
Speaker 1: make his debut. Look, he's under and I have been
Speaker 1: playing really good for the Dolphins. But the biggest talking
Speaker 1: point Brian to a man who has done a lot
Speaker 1: for the Blues, has played really good anytime he's in
Speaker 1: that arena dropped.
Speaker 2: That's just that that's a big surprise.
Speaker 1: Did you can I ask you, like, because we've everyone speculating,
Speaker 1: you know this played. Was there ever a part of
Speaker 1: you that thought Biz was in doubt to be dropped potentially.
Speaker 2: Look, he hasn't played anywhere near his best, but I
Speaker 2: didn't think he'd be dropped. I just thought his yardage
Speaker 2: is invaluable, so that's why I thought he'd remain. But
Speaker 2: you know what, Coops, I'll say this. I wrote an
Speaker 2: article on Friday about Laws and I said, the biggest
Speaker 2: challenge for Laws is going to be to remove his
Speaker 2: natural self from selections. What I mean by that he's
Speaker 2: such a champion bloke and he's so loyal. But if
Speaker 2: you look at coaches like Wayne Bennett, who's like a
Speaker 2: father to his players, However, he'll kick someone out of
Speaker 2: the family if they stand between he and success. And
Speaker 2: for Laurie, he's got two big challenges. One is going
Speaker 2: out to some corpse stadium and winning, obviously, but the
Speaker 2: other big challenge was this challenge picking the team and
Speaker 2: been able to make some really ruthless, tough decisions. It
Speaker 2: was one of them. Interesting with Bostock, these two players
Speaker 2: could not be more different. So's just pure yardage. Justly
Speaker 2: the the greatest yardage winger in the history of the game.
Speaker 2: Boss Stock is a high kick target. Yeah yeah, as
Speaker 2: far as diffusing high kicks and as far as scoring
Speaker 2: high kicks, he will be a huge here human Markey
Speaker 2: mar Mark, knowing they will be big targets for Nathan
Speaker 2: Cleary and Moses.
Speaker 1: I did think that initially when I saw it, is like,
Speaker 1: obviously he's performed when he's in that jersey, probably not
Speaker 1: the last few games there. But we saw how isolated
Speaker 1: they probably tried to go after putting Jojo Fafieda on
Speaker 1: him in game two, So I have no doubt that
Speaker 1: may have played into hand of Look, maybe we want
Speaker 1: to have more kick targets for this game three, and
Speaker 1: there's no doubt that two of the best kick targets
Speaker 1: in the ENA right now is Jack Bostock and Mark.
Speaker 1: They are extremely good kick targets. So look, and what
Speaker 1: I'll say about Lorry, like people people giving it to Lorry,
Speaker 1: and like some decisions have been big, and I understand
Speaker 1: that that brings a lot of criticism. I've been critical
Speaker 1: with some of the decisions as well. But for a
Speaker 1: guy that everyone's like, you know, he's such a nice guy,
Speaker 1: fire out. He's not afraid to go against like what
Speaker 1: everyone else, like what people want and what people are saying,
Speaker 1: like he is quite more ruthless than I probably thought
Speaker 1: in terms of he's not afraid to make a big decision,
Speaker 1: like this is a big decision.
Speaker 2: I spoke to Lorry yesterday, had he armed him on
Speaker 2: the phone, and I tell what it was. I got
Speaker 2: what I got from it. When the way he was
Speaker 2: talking about the game, he actually sounded like the old
Speaker 2: Lorry like it made when Lurie was a player, mate,
Speaker 2: particularly in his early years. Mate, he was wild, like
Speaker 2: you know, like just so aggressive so forthright made him
Speaker 2: just tear in but and obviously do down there's the
Speaker 2: Lorry winner now. I just sensed when I had he
Speaker 2: earned him on the phone, there was a lot of
Speaker 2: the old Lorry like you're really decisive about things he
Speaker 2: was going to do in the game and certain things.
Speaker 2: I just went away and we'll get to it to
Speaker 2: the end. I've got a real I've got a real
Speaker 2: optimism about this game.
Speaker 1: Do you think that's come from a little bit of
Speaker 1: like a lot of the pressure. And it's almost like,
Speaker 1: you know, after this, if I'm going to go out,
Speaker 1: I'm going out.
Speaker 2: Of my terms. Here's the thing about laws and again
Speaker 2: this way I wrote this in an article. It doesn't
Speaker 2: matter what lass does right, It doesn't matter what side.
Speaker 2: There was no compete there was. There was never going
Speaker 2: to be a complete popular decision as far as his
Speaker 2: selections are concerned. Whoever he selected, he was always going
Speaker 2: to be branded one side a genius or a dunce.
Speaker 2: Either way, it doesn't matter. So the thing was loss.
Speaker 2: You just pick on your own intuition. Don't don't worry
Speaker 2: about what you the player you think you should pick
Speaker 2: or that. Mate, You just pick the side that you
Speaker 2: think you need to pick to win. Because mate, he
Speaker 2: knows winning. Mate, he's a winner.
Speaker 1: Because I haven't agree with some of the stuff that's
Speaker 1: happening in game one and game two, But at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, if he wins game three, all
Speaker 1: of that stuff's avoid Who.
Speaker 2: Gives a fuck bet anything's happening in game one, in
Speaker 2: game two, you know the selections, it didn't work out,
Speaker 2: you know the you know getting in the change is wrong,
Speaker 2: losing track of inner change, all they It does not
Speaker 2: matter is you clear the slate, just gonna win Game three.
Speaker 2: Well known to Jack Bostock. I remember Jack when the
Speaker 2: Dolphins first come into the competition, they signed him as
Speaker 2: a young bloke. I remember watching a trial game and
Speaker 2: they go, mate, this kid's something special and the poor
Speaker 2: had been a young Blake had at a barrier.
Speaker 3: Had a really tough one, and I thought, oh, yeah, okay,
Speaker 3: but I see it in the last twelve months they
Speaker 3: were spot on and he's a real special player.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a good I watched him play on a
Speaker 1: nine ends origin. I think Jonah Pezant was his half
Speaker 1: and he put on an absolute clinic.
Speaker 2: Jackie I can repeat that here.
Speaker 1: And the centers Stephen Crichton and Bradman Bess looked.
Speaker 2: No surprises With Stephen Kricht, he's he's done, he's he's done.
Speaker 2: Fantastic at the Dogs going into six. Interesting watching him
Speaker 2: play six. Luke Kerey picked it up. He's doing the
Speaker 2: majority of the calling, he said, Like Luke Hey said,
Speaker 2: he's playing more half than probably than Lucky Galvin. But
Speaker 2: the other thing is defending three in you know, like
Speaker 2: him defending three and gives him greater control of that
Speaker 2: defensive edge as far as calls and everything, like he's
Speaker 2: the captain of that defense on the edge. And it's
Speaker 2: really stiffened the Dogs up. And so he reverts now
Speaker 2: to his preferred defensive position and this is the big matchup,
Speaker 2: he versus Calen pomer and that's the big one.
Speaker 1: Well, he'll be the right center and Bradman on the left.
Speaker 1: And you said that after gain to where Caylyn kept
Speaker 1: going down, they're putting Catoni Staggs under pressure and Nathan
Speaker 1: there as well. I mean he's you're talking about smart
Speaker 1: defensive centers who are also long and range. You can
Speaker 1: get in the passing lane, go for interceps. No one
Speaker 1: is better at it than Stephen Crichton.
Speaker 2: To let people know, you know how important it is
Speaker 2: inside and outside you to have a person you can
Speaker 2: rely on, like, for instance, if I you know, let's say,
Speaker 2: for instance, or like I'm defending and I've got a
Speaker 2: guy who's inexperienced on the outside and he's not talking
Speaker 2: to me. You've got to understanding defense. Half a second
Speaker 2: of silence is unnerving. So it's like, right here, you
Speaker 2: got what you're doing, and all of a sudden goes
Speaker 2: yeah yeah, yeah, silence at half a second. This is
Speaker 2: what forces you into a bad defensive route. What you
Speaker 2: need to hear from the inside and outside is I
Speaker 2: got him, I got him, I got him, I got him.
Speaker 2: Come in in kill him outside in outside in, you
Speaker 2: hear it continually. That gives you that safety and confidence
Speaker 2: to just do you're wrong.
Speaker 1: Yea, the best I ever played with doing that. Justin
Speaker 1: Olum he even though English like when he first come
Speaker 1: to Australia, he actually had to learn like English. Basically
Speaker 1: he's not strong. But when he got really good at communicating.
Speaker 1: To give people an example, if you're a half inside
Speaker 1: Justin Olim he would live some of the stuff that
Speaker 1: he would say to you. And Stephen Crichton is the same.
Speaker 1: You can see he communicates exact same. He's loud and
Speaker 1: he will actually identify the shape that's coming. You've got
Speaker 1: a back rower that's going to run at your inside shoulder.
Speaker 1: Justin used to say he was like Cooper, the blocks
Speaker 1: on you, the blox on you. And then he'd say
Speaker 1: if he's going deep, old jam like, he'll make you
Speaker 1: comfortable so you actually know what's coming. Center is the
Speaker 1: most important position on the field. They get the best
Speaker 1: view and they're the ones, oftentimes are the ones that
Speaker 1: I identify in the actual shape in communicating to the heart.
Speaker 2: It's interesting to say that because when we played the
Speaker 2: three inn was the most important. He was the shot caller.
Speaker 2: He depended. He was the one that decided. We used
Speaker 2: to call a Newcastle a red defense was up and
Speaker 2: in the green defense was up and hold and slide.
Speaker 2: But these days generally everyone just goes up square and
Speaker 2: the center makes that defensive decision, don't they think if
Speaker 2: they gam or whatever. So that's on him, But yeah,
Speaker 2: that's that's that's really smart from Oldham to actually recognize
Speaker 2: the shape and then talk you through it. Bradman on
Speaker 2: that left side, I thought they might have went for Turba,
Speaker 2: but at the end of the day, Turbo hasn't played
Speaker 2: a lot of center. You put a bloke in there
Speaker 2: and Bradman's Bradman's strong.
Speaker 4: I think Bradman's got an excellent record of origin. I
Speaker 4: think the most controver, like the controversial part of that
Speaker 4: is probably leaving Cooler out. I'd say Bradman's probably pretty trusted.
Speaker 4: I don't think anyone's saying that's a bad decision at all.
Speaker 4: It's a great decision. But Cole has probably been hard
Speaker 4: done by whether it comes in anywhere, whether it be
Speaker 4: on the bench or whatever it is, is.
Speaker 1: On that six man bench. Yeah, so he's there for
Speaker 1: cover but yeah, it's weird with the six man bench.
Speaker 4: I feel like that that twenty it's very like immovable,
Speaker 4: like leading to the game, like you don't know how
Speaker 4: even himole like for the previous game.
Speaker 2: I was I was.
Speaker 4: Thinking to myself like, even though he's not even in
Speaker 4: the starting team at all, or the bench, I was thinking,
Speaker 4: for all, you know, on game day you can go
Speaker 4: from that twenty straight to the starting back. You never
Speaker 4: know how it's going to be maneuvered around the bench.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the halves obviously there was a bit of room
Speaker 1: around potentially moving in the house, but they've stuck strong
Speaker 1: with Mitchell Mosis and Nathan Cleary. Yeah that's surprising.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought because I watching Mitchell play the other night,
Speaker 2: particularly defensively, to me, he appeared a long way off
Speaker 2: being one hundred percent fit. But it's probably just the
Speaker 2: stuff we're talking about there. He had young guys inside
Speaker 2: and outside him. He's probably trying to solve decisions, solve
Speaker 2: problems by himself. But look, one of those guys, Mitchell,
Speaker 2: you just got to You've got to call him and
Speaker 2: talk to him. And I think he's on and honest
Speaker 2: enough that if you ring him and sae, Mitch, you
Speaker 2: know the importance of this game. Come on, you know
Speaker 2: how are you? You know you're going to be able
Speaker 2: to be at your best? If he says to me,
Speaker 2: yew I am, then look I put him in because
Speaker 2: one thing you met, Mitchell is that mate, he has
Speaker 2: got that healthy arrogance. He's the type of personality that
Speaker 2: will go into sun Corps Stadium and that hostile environment
Speaker 2: will bring out the best in him. And the bottom line, Coop,
Speaker 2: is that I go. And you know I would have
Speaker 2: went strange, but Coop, if you know Moses and Cleary
Speaker 2: are on, you win.
Speaker 1: And I did see. I was watching the list show
Speaker 1: when Laurie announced the team and the big reason he
Speaker 1: went with Bradman Bess He said, I want someone who's
Speaker 1: used to the atmosphere at lang Park mostly sun Corp
Speaker 1: Stadium now, but Bradman was a part of the series
Speaker 1: the last series when they went up and he scored
Speaker 1: the match winning try. So I mean Mitch Moses is
Speaker 1: used to that hostile environment up there as well. The
Speaker 1: front row announcement Paynehass, Rhys Robson and Mitchell Barnett.
Speaker 2: Mitch Barnett, he wasn't in my nineteen. But Cooper, after
Speaker 2: the way he played against the Dolphins, watching it, sitting
Speaker 2: there and watching it, I thought, yeah, he'll he'll be picked.
Speaker 2: I thought that was his that was by far his
Speaker 2: best performance coming back from that ACL injury. So he's
Speaker 2: starting to he's starting to sort of find his best
Speaker 2: he's finding his best self. I thought he was really
Speaker 2: really strong. So yeah, well under Mitch there Paynehouse who
Speaker 2: goes with it. That goes without saying, if we just
Speaker 2: move there, Cooper, just for one second, move on to
Speaker 2: Isaai Yale. I think, I think Loriol paid, I think
Speaker 2: you played Ducks and Drakes here, you do, I think
Speaker 2: Murial start. I just look at one thing we really
Speaker 2: knew early in the game. We need Upfiell thrust and
Speaker 2: punch because that gets Nathan and Mitchell in the groove,
Speaker 2: gets some going. I look and I go, pain, Yes,
Speaker 2: but but Mitch Barnett's not like what you'd call a
Speaker 2: powerhouse Mota Eader like, he works his ass off, brilliant,
Speaker 2: but he's not a powerhouse of Bens the line back
Speaker 2: all the time, and neither is Isaiah. Isaiah is more
Speaker 2: of a passer. So I think, looking at the line
Speaker 2: up there from one to thirteen. I think that middle
Speaker 2: we lack a little bit of punch. I'm certain Cam
Speaker 2: Murray are going to third.
Speaker 1: You really do?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I do it because look a lot everyone was speculating, oh,
Speaker 1: Game two is going to be a bit of ducks
Speaker 1: and trapes, and then when everybody got the pre game
Speaker 1: there was nothing. Do I think he will.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you will. Well, if I put it
Speaker 2: this way, I'm absolutely certain. I bet my kid's gonna
Speaker 2: say my life wouldn't do that. I'll bet my blue
Speaker 2: Swede shoes that either Barnett or Isaia Ah will make
Speaker 2: way for Cam Murray in the starting link.
Speaker 4: What has that jacket you got last week that you
Speaker 4: took into the podcast, that shocking brown cardigan thing.
Speaker 2: It's one of those things Jack like, when you look
Speaker 2: at the mirror you're looking at it's pretty stylish. And
Speaker 2: then when I saw it in the little cuts you did,
Speaker 2: you're right, it was just all fitting.
Speaker 1: I get to burn your jacket. If you're wrong, you're welcome.
Speaker 1: You can buy okay, and then obviously reach Reece Robson.
Speaker 1: People are sort of saying whether Appy Blake Brailey has
Speaker 1: come onto the bench, but whether they're going to play
Speaker 1: a bit of stuff, whether it's Blake Brailey and Appy
Speaker 1: corus our. Ree Robson played really well against the Broncos
Speaker 1: the other night in that Rooster side. My big thing
Speaker 1: looking at that is, I think, Laurie, you saw the
Speaker 1: mistake in game two in terms of the interchange. He
Speaker 1: can't have the mentality that Ree Robson is going to
Speaker 1: play eighty minutes. I think there's got to be some
Speaker 1: sort of better plan there.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't surprise me if Blake comes on sort of
Speaker 2: bit midweth through the first half. The thing about it
Speaker 2: is with the nine in the current rules and which
Speaker 2: make the middle defenses really vulnerable, the easiest and the
Speaker 2: best place to attack from stummy half Scoop and gar. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's it's immediate and it's straight, and that's why I
Speaker 2: would have started. That's why I would have went with Appy,
Speaker 2: the combination of Appy and Blake Brayley. But Reece he
Speaker 2: is a very easy guy to get behind because he
Speaker 2: but because he's all heart. Sorry I'm a little bit tired.
Speaker 2: He's all hard.
Speaker 1: Yeah. The back row as well, another big decision in
Speaker 1: their Hutson Young obviously speaks to himself on that left side.
Speaker 1: Leam Martin has come straight into the starting side. You
Speaker 1: were big on this in the in your article and
Speaker 1: whatnot through the media during the week. You thought Liam
Speaker 1: Martin is a player no matter his former club because
Speaker 1: he hasn't been playing his best football, but he elevates
Speaker 1: in that jersey.
Speaker 2: Months still hate that selection. Yeah, that's enough, it's enough
Speaker 2: said on mate. Monster will hate that.
Speaker 1: They have a big rivalry here and money they always have.
Speaker 1: They go at each other quite hard. And he's and
Speaker 1: every time Lea Martin's been in a Blue jersey, anytime
Speaker 1: there's a kick chase or anything, he goes after people, doesn't.
Speaker 2: He does, and just looking at his left side semi
Speaker 2: generally his right side and if he if Sammy Walker
Speaker 2: switches over that side a little bit like we've seen
Speaker 2: him do occasionally, you'll go after see hi.
Speaker 1: Yeah, isaiahell like we just spoke about him. Cam Murray
Speaker 1: on the bench, which you're saying you'll start start. Adam
Speaker 1: Fanila Blake Hamalekawatu fifteen and sixteen was a tall man.
Speaker 2: It's a that first interchange. We get that timing right,
Speaker 2: Los gets that timing right. That's a big boost if
Speaker 2: you get Adam you know coming on. If you if
Speaker 2: you don't like put it this way, if you would
Speaker 2: start with Cam Murray, Isaiah and pain if you can
Speaker 2: do that first in the change of say Isaiah comes
Speaker 2: off and Adam comes on and have about ten to
Speaker 2: fifteen minutes there of adding and Payne operating with Kem
Speaker 2: Murray altogether. Fucking hell mate, you know you're gonna be
Speaker 2: eating in him there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then Ham. I'm I think Ham needs to
Speaker 1: have They need to have a plan, not just if
Speaker 1: a back row gets hurt like Camalo you need him
Speaker 1: in that game. We saw what he did in the
Speaker 1: Cooper Johns Cup on the weekend against Melbourne. He was
Speaker 1: the best player on that field. I actually do have
Speaker 1: He actually got my Cup Player of the Match.
Speaker 2: And that must have mean that it must have been
Speaker 2: everything for him.
Speaker 1: I messaged him anyhow address I said, mate, you can't
Speaker 1: pick it up. He said, who is this block? My number?
Speaker 4: Great to see the storm really turn off the Cuba
Speaker 4: John's cut.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, yeah, are going to talk. Probably didn't go
Speaker 2: have the impact you thought it could.
Speaker 1: Well, it's good to see, I mean something to the
Speaker 1: manly boys. That's the positive, but I think you need
Speaker 1: to get him out there. They used to have a
Speaker 1: good combination where they get Martin off or move Martin
Speaker 1: into the middle. I think that's probably where they looked at.
Speaker 2: You know, I would love to see in the middle operating.
Speaker 2: I'd love to see Hudson Young. Yeah, Hudson Young with
Speaker 2: his speed and his footwork through the middle. That that
Speaker 2: is a guy that I would love to see there.
Speaker 2: If you want to talk about a blitzkrieg that you
Speaker 2: got when if they look vulnerable, a lightweight blitz kreeg
Speaker 2: where you just go at them and try to drive
Speaker 2: them through the middle, you'd have you know, through the middle,
Speaker 2: you'd have Ethan Strange and and Hudson Hudson operating through
Speaker 2: that middle. Mate with his spoed and foodwork. That'd be
Speaker 2: really hard to handle. You just got to get the
Speaker 2: timing right. You've got to get the time. You know.
Speaker 4: That's if you don't know a blitzkrieg. Year is coupo.
Speaker 4: It was a military tactic world War two, mathe you go,
Speaker 4: that was that. Yeah, it's a military tactic. Bush I
Speaker 4: think for a German.
Speaker 2: I know it was for a lightning wall, Yes, I know,
Speaker 2: it right, you got to Jack, Yeah, I know it was,
Speaker 2: and then it's good. I'm glad you explained it. I
Speaker 2: just took it and it was a great song from Yeah,
Speaker 2: Blitz Green.
Speaker 1: It's in the school of Rock.
Speaker 2: Blake was Jack Black for you, doesn't it?
Speaker 1: Blake, Blake, Bradley, Ethan Strange, Toller Colo up we spoke
Speaker 1: about and then Victor Radley, he's moved the twentieth. I
Speaker 1: don't think Victor probably did a lot wrong in that game.
Speaker 1: I thought he probably does, like he didn't do anything
Speaker 1: to lose this spot. I think maybe Laurie just had
Speaker 1: to make way for some other people. You actually had
Speaker 1: Victor on your show tonight when the team was announced.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well you look, Victor wasn't given anything away like
Speaker 2: I because, as Jack said, you don't know like you know,
Speaker 2: it's very It's every chance that Laurie might have said him,
Speaker 2: may listen, you're twenty, but just keep it under wraps
Speaker 2: and might be playing doctor in your except But I
Speaker 2: don't know. But I said to him at the time
Speaker 2: when he came back and he got the phone call
Speaker 2: and all he said, and make you talk about it's
Speaker 2: the mark of a man. He said, oh yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: it's all good. I'm going to go in there and
Speaker 2: just make give him best and lift the boys for it.
Speaker 1: That's good.
Speaker 2: I thought it was awesome. But again, you know, you
Speaker 2: don't know, Lorry, this could make There could be a
Speaker 2: lot of ducks and drakes going on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that from Victoriday EXAs a legend. Everyone
Speaker 1: was taught, I'll tell you what. Like a lot of
Speaker 1: people probably different stages, hard done by with selection. I know,
Speaker 1: like even Dylan Lucas, one of our friends. Outside of there,
Speaker 1: there's just good. There's a lot of competition with spots
Speaker 1: in some well, so not everyone can get picked. It's
Speaker 1: good to see the attitude of some of the boys.
Speaker 1: Even in game two for vi all reports was amazing
Speaker 1: in the camp class.
Speaker 2: The way he handled that our mission, Homol, it was
Speaker 2: just class and that was his reward get back in
Speaker 2: and and and Victorius, I said, I'm not sure, but
Speaker 2: if you know, if that is that if with this said, mate,
Speaker 2: you're not going to the way he handled it, and
Speaker 2: I saw it, you know, face to face class class.
Speaker 1: We're going to talk more about previewing it next Monday.
Speaker 1: Before the game, we just wanted to give a little
Speaker 1: live reaction to the Blues team. Obviously, Maron's tomorrow, but
Speaker 1: June thirty in a couple of days, well math here
Speaker 1: lots of rumors going around about. I mean, the biggest
Speaker 1: storyline from the June thirty stuff is Bronson Cherry could
Speaker 1: potentially be going down to Melbourne Storm. Apparently he's allegedly
Speaker 1: signed already, I've heard and then great pick up for mel.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think a journal announced it was he's signed
Speaker 4: possibly a three year deal already.
Speaker 1: I love Bronson Cherry. You love Bronze Cherry's and you
Speaker 1: just know you get him down in that Melbourne system,
Speaker 1: he could be a really really good bye for them.
Speaker 2: When the Dogs bought him, I was watching him, took
Speaker 2: him about took him about eight or nine weeks to
Speaker 2: put him in first grade because he had such a
Speaker 2: long time out of the game. He was playing New
Speaker 2: South Wales Cup and they watched him in New South
Speaker 2: Wild's Cup and May's just come made. This bloke's just
Speaker 2: made his league's lengths above this level. Mate. I think
Speaker 2: I love about Bronson. He's a powerhouse and yardage, he's
Speaker 2: a great finisher and he's fast. Mate. Yeah, Like I said,
Speaker 2: last year when he was flying last year. At times
Speaker 2: I said, honestly, you could put him in state of origin.
Speaker 2: He's got that state of origin for Suk, for Zoke
Speaker 2: and all the attributes. So for Melbourne, that's it's a
Speaker 2: great pickup and I'm really surprised that the Dogs have
Speaker 2: allowed him to go. Great pickup and good for Bronson too.
Speaker 2: May going down to Melbourne. It's gonna be it's good
Speaker 2: move for him.
Speaker 1: I'm here in that. I mean it's I think tomorrow
Speaker 1: is June thirty. I'm here in that he might be.
Speaker 1: He's might be going down there in the next couple
Speaker 1: of days.
Speaker 2: So that's pretty that's well, that's really interesting coup because
Speaker 2: I looked at we were at the game the other
Speaker 2: night watching at the Cooper John's Cup, and I was
Speaker 2: watching Melbourne. I thought, yeah, it's going this year's and
Speaker 2: anomally there were just things in their game. But I'll
Speaker 2: tell you what, I could think it'll win six of
Speaker 2: the last eight and they've got a tough draw. But
Speaker 2: if they get him down there and he starts to
Speaker 2: play his best football, and who knows, they might be
Speaker 2: able to creep in correct.
Speaker 1: And then also some just big news from the round
Speaker 1: just going in the same game. Luke Brooks has done
Speaker 1: his acl Man, which is going to see him back
Speaker 1: twenty twenty seven midway through the year.
Speaker 2: That's a shape because mate, he was one of the
Speaker 2: biggest beneficiaries of fosball. Yeah, Kieran being a playmaker and
Speaker 2: understand how to switch playmakers on Brooks, he was playing
Speaker 2: some of the best football his career. Finally just got
Speaker 2: him in the sweet spot. That's tragic and him and.
Speaker 1: It's going to be a big loss for Manly, but
Speaker 1: one a glass half full perspective. Young Joey Wals should
Speaker 1: have been trying. Who's been playing really good football. When
Speaker 1: he's in there, he gets a chance to really come
Speaker 1: into first grade consistently in the back end of the
Speaker 1: year of a team that's really going well and potentially
Speaker 1: cement that number six role as his own.
Speaker 2: I mean, is the X factor in it? Yeah, isn't.
Speaker 2: Isn't And this is a really big X factor. How
Speaker 2: Joey goes in there and goes I mean, let's go
Speaker 2: back to twenty eleven. Young bloke Dally Cherry Evans sort
Speaker 2: of went into the mainly first grade side in his
Speaker 2: first year. You know and leads them to a competition
Speaker 2: when now it's a long long way to go there
Speaker 2: for Joey. I'm not going to draw that conclusion, but
Speaker 2: it just shows you when a young player comes in
Speaker 2: who can transform a team, and Joey can certainly do that.
Speaker 4: Also, I'll just say to you too, like I have
Speaker 4: tied it well, like they re signed him till twenty
Speaker 4: nine last week, so like if he goes in and
Speaker 4: kills it, they've just got an absolute bargain on their hands.
Speaker 1: Manly, it's a really good point.
Speaker 2: But you know, Jack and the thing about it is
Speaker 2: too and this is a lesson kids, and this is
Speaker 2: a theme that has run through this podcast so far.
Speaker 2: So far, it's how you deal with some things that
Speaker 2: don't always go your way. Joey the way he started,
Speaker 2: you know, the year and flashes of brilliance, people have
Speaker 2: been going, mate, this kid's got to be in the team,
Speaker 2: et cetera, et cetera. He has never he's never turned
Speaker 2: his toes up and gone no no, or blown up
Speaker 2: or wanted to release or threaten the club anyway, shape
Speaker 2: or form. He has shown class and being willing to
Speaker 2: sit behind Jamal and Brooksy and be patient and now
Speaker 2: his time has come and it's just really exciting and
Speaker 2: it's a really good combination. He's got to He's going
Speaker 2: to have a great mentor there in Jamal. Jamal's strength
Speaker 2: is and we had him on the podcast. Jamal said,
Speaker 2: the two things I'm good at that I focus on,
Speaker 2: he said, is organizing and kicking. He's going to do that.
Speaker 2: That's going to allow Joey some freedom to play ram
Speaker 2: around the field. So that's that's really exciting.
Speaker 1: And is he can't tell your man? I know you're
Speaker 1: probably the biggest Easy Cartell fan of anyone in the NRL.
Speaker 1: He fractured his wrist on the weekend as well, a
Speaker 1: massive loss for the Dolphins. He's been an integral part
Speaker 1: of their attack. But the Dolphins who were flying at
Speaker 1: the moment he got a pretty early. Brad Schneider went
Speaker 1: on and they ended up grinding a really good win
Speaker 1: against the Wires. But I'm not sure the timeline of
Speaker 1: is his injury. But can they can they How does
Speaker 1: this affect their final chances? It just all depends what
Speaker 1: it means. So if is he he'll get the scan
Speaker 1: and everything done to speak to the surgeon. Hopefully it's
Speaker 1: not too bad, too bad a frash all war. I
Speaker 1: say this not in a bad spot that basically prolongs
Speaker 1: that they come back.
Speaker 2: Hopefully. It's only you know, four or five weeks, which
Speaker 2: is still a fair spot out, but it affects us.
Speaker 2: I think that I think the Dolphins can win the competition.
Speaker 2: But if you tell me that easy Gita, you know
Speaker 2: that he's not going to be there, then then he's
Speaker 2: still their most important players.
Speaker 4: Look at it right now too, Like it's a crazy
Speaker 4: you know how Like we talked about the middle part
Speaker 4: of the ladder sort of like that bottleneck, Well it's
Speaker 4: not really the middle third. It's actually gone up. So
Speaker 4: you've got we've got the Wires, Dolphins, Roosters, and Knights
Speaker 4: all locked in twenty four points on second position locked in,
Speaker 4: and then we've got we've got another three teams locked
Speaker 4: in at six, seven, and eight. So like even then,
Speaker 4: like the Dolphins are sitting there at third, but they're
Speaker 4: four points away from being first on the ladder, and
Speaker 4: then they are four points below them from being out
Speaker 4: of the eight.
Speaker 2: I was a believer, boys is you don't see an
Speaker 2: effect a great player has on a team till the
Speaker 2: following week. So you get there. You know, you're in
Speaker 2: a game, in the in the cut and thrust of
Speaker 2: a game, and suddenly easy Guitara gets injured. It's all right,
Speaker 2: you know, other players, you don't have time for it
Speaker 2: to affect your confidence. Yeah, that makes sense. You're in
Speaker 2: the you're in the you know, you're in the cut
Speaker 2: and thrust and you just going. But and you saw
Speaker 2: that in the weekend, like they didn't miss a beat.
Speaker 2: But now they're going to sit for a week and
Speaker 2: they've got to prepare and they've got to go through
Speaker 2: all the nuances of training, and you don't know. Sometimes
Speaker 2: you know, you get blokes finish their training session of
Speaker 2: driving home going, it's not the same without him missing.
Speaker 2: It's all that.
Speaker 1: That's a good point because like you think about, where
Speaker 1: does confidence go into a game. Confidence comes from preparation,
Speaker 1: like it is, it comes from preparation. It comes from
Speaker 1: people talking and conveying a really clear message on the
Speaker 1: Dolphins playing the Warriors on the weekend, this is the
Speaker 1: shakes we want to run, This is how we want
Speaker 1: to play the Dolphins. This is how we want to
Speaker 1: play the Warriors. And then, like you said, if he's
Speaker 1: the guitar gets injured in the first ten minutes, that plan,
Speaker 1: that plan that is he helped create, doesn't change. That
Speaker 1: doesn't change the training through the week that's the thing
Speaker 1: that has laid the platform for that win on the weekend.
Speaker 2: They have got a very very strong system. However, the
Speaker 2: loss of easy Gaitoa to the Dolphins is like Nathan
Speaker 2: being out for the Panrith Panthers made. I think it's identical.
Speaker 2: I think it's I think it's only more Yeah, yep, yep,
Speaker 2: I think so young side, he's just he's a juniors footballer,
Speaker 2: so that's hopefully. I just want him back. I want
Speaker 2: to see him back on the field before final.
Speaker 1: While we're we're almost like past the halfway point of
Speaker 1: the season, let's get can we give a little bit
Speaker 1: of an update. Where do we see because teams are
Speaker 1: sort of fluctuated, forms going up, forms going down. Who
Speaker 1: are the teams right now that you think they can
Speaker 1: win the camp?
Speaker 2: Okay, Panthers goes with that saying roosters wars. So there
Speaker 2: wars like certain little aspects, uh Tomorray Martin and and
Speaker 2: Chanelle at the at the moment, God, I'd love to
Speaker 2: see metcalf find watched him play in New South Wales
Speaker 2: Cup today has some good moments. Your running game was good.
Speaker 2: It's called to try. I'd love to see him sort
Speaker 2: of start to find toward that form of last year.
Speaker 2: If he can do that, then I go, mate, they're
Speaker 2: up to their eyeballs. I think they can still win
Speaker 2: the comp Their system of play is so strong Dolphins.
Speaker 2: But again that Cavet sitting there with with easy at
Speaker 2: the moment and and Manly. I liked Manly at round four.
Speaker 2: You to have him at two hundred to one, you know,
Speaker 2: coach Ben sacked and then Fos comes in and it's
Speaker 2: just been a remarkable turnaround and just growing belief and
Speaker 2: doing it at the moment without a couple of stars.
Speaker 2: Like you know, I saw Clayton the other night like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I saw him having the under him and mate, like
Speaker 2: what a play he would make for a month's dreath.
Speaker 2: He was borth playing the comp Yeah, even didn't play
Speaker 2: the other night. And the sleeper, the sleeper is South's right.
Speaker 2: Souths have the old bloke Wayne Bennett in charge. He
Speaker 2: knows how to win a competition more than anyone. There
Speaker 2: was a point through last year right that I reckon
Speaker 2: Wayne sort of went, you know what, this is not
Speaker 2: going to really, this is not panning out. I'm going
Speaker 2: to take I want to take one for the team
Speaker 2: here and Mate, there was a lot of players that
Speaker 2: I reckon. He just rested and just said, don't worry
Speaker 2: about this year. It's ride off. We'll build to next year.
Speaker 2: And even with Latrell, like, he's been really patient bringing
Speaker 2: Latrell back. And there's that calf twinge who knows he
Speaker 2: might have been okay to play in a week or two.
Speaker 2: He's going to hold him a little bit longer. His
Speaker 2: side's going good, and he knows right, I'll get the
Speaker 2: I'll get the side all going good, and then I'm
Speaker 2: going to eject Latrell into that team for the run home.
Speaker 2: So what I like about saus You got Wayne who's
Speaker 2: done before, but what you've got your brand and come
Speaker 2: back into the side. You see Brandon's about to hit
Speaker 2: top form. Dave for Feeder looks really good. He's starting
Speaker 2: to find his place there, Cody looks really good, Tall
Speaker 2: Us Duncan, They're all just starting to form up.
Speaker 1: So Coop and I on South particularly branded. I thought
Speaker 1: Brandon that was his best game of the year for
Speaker 1: Souse easily. The other came a couple of years mate,
Speaker 1: and he's but he looks fit, and we said, it's
Speaker 1: a little bit of the Brandon of Melbourne get roxbeed,
Speaker 1: get rax speed and then just take off and skittle
Speaker 1: bokes and when he runs you see the effect on
Speaker 1: the line when he runs a b and see all goes,
Speaker 1: oh shit, Brandon Smith runner. They all turn in. I
Speaker 1: think you set you and aching up with a really
Speaker 1: nice try on the left hand side.
Speaker 4: It looks quick too.
Speaker 1: He is quick.
Speaker 2: He shouldn't fat, but he's powerful. He's wombats. You underestimate
Speaker 2: how quick a wombat can move. You get near their burrs,
Speaker 2: you watch them go the uh. But yeah, so the
Speaker 2: other ones uh Penrith, Roosters, Wis, Dolphins, Manly and the
Speaker 2: sleeper Souths six teams. Mate, it's going to be some
Speaker 2: sort of final series. Nights have been fantastic at the moment,
Speaker 2: they're still twelve months away.
Speaker 1: For me, I've got I've got a sleep and then
Speaker 1: I've got four who I think right now can win
Speaker 1: the comp. And this comp's unbelievably weird to pick because
Speaker 1: someone can come in two weeks and just randomly find
Speaker 1: form and people can come out of form. But I
Speaker 1: think Penrith, Dolphins, Roosters, Manly are my four that can
Speaker 1: win the comp right now. And I'm with your sleepers
Speaker 1: of Souse. If they can get a few of those
Speaker 1: boys back like Campbell, Graham, Jack White and still Out,
Speaker 1: They're to come back in that side Patrell Mitchell obviously,
Speaker 1: and then a few of those boys like you said,
Speaker 1: they're starting to find form. Injuries is their biggest weakness
Speaker 1: at the moment. South, Yeah, but if they can come
Speaker 1: back in and find a bit of the.
Speaker 4: Left side mate when they take shape, yeah, can I
Speaker 4: raise something really strange right now? The wagers have obviously
Speaker 4: got some sort of inside that no one else knows.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 4: I'm looking at the top eight right so if you look,
Speaker 4: if you tell me right, if I told you guys
Speaker 4: right now, if you had to put money on either
Speaker 4: Melbourne or the Knights to win the comp, which one
Speaker 4: are you.
Speaker 2: Get to back? Oh?
Speaker 1: Probably Knights win the comp this year. Probably Nights right now,
Speaker 1: Melbourne I don't know.
Speaker 2: Actually, Oh jeezuz, that is tough. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Probably no Knights are tied second at the moment, right
Speaker 4: eight points below them and Melbourne now Knights are Knights
Speaker 4: are paying the most tied at second to win the
Speaker 4: comp in that in that those people, those teams locked
Speaker 4: in it that second position, they're paying twenty three bucks
Speaker 4: right now, eight points belo them sitting at twelve is
Speaker 4: the Storm paying thirty right, only only a few odds better.
Speaker 4: But above them then you go the two teams above
Speaker 4: them are paying in the eighties. So there's obviously there's
Speaker 4: something there with Melbourne where the teams that are above them,
Speaker 4: I think they're looking at Melbourne going there's still a
Speaker 4: chance to win.
Speaker 2: It because it's Melbourne.
Speaker 1: It's one of those things big and like you see
Speaker 1: their finals record and you get the vibe like they
Speaker 1: got a few more they've got a couple buys coming up,
Speaker 1: so that's where it's going to play in. But that
Speaker 1: like it's a hard sort of to get from where
Speaker 1: they are twelfth right now into that eight. There's a
Speaker 1: few teams in there that have also got I think
Speaker 1: Cowboys still have three more buys. Cowboys have got a
Speaker 1: great runner, they've got a really good run home, So
Speaker 1: they're going to strugg They're going to struggle to be
Speaker 1: knocked out of that eight, so there's not a whole
Speaker 1: heap of teams that the hardest thing for Melbourne is
Speaker 1: to get into the eight. But if they get in
Speaker 1: the finals, like in Terrified, they have a lot of
Speaker 1: players who are just elevating final because if they do
Speaker 1: make the finals, it means their best players are on fire.
Speaker 2: In four. I just wanted to have a look on people.
Speaker 2: I say, if you can have a pun of the competition,
Speaker 2: just have a look at the team going into the
Speaker 2: finals where they had that last buy. Newcastle are going
Speaker 2: to be very, very hard to beat in the first
Speaker 2: week of the finals because they've got the buy the
Speaker 2: week before, they all get the freshen up. They're going
Speaker 2: to hit the field. They're going to be nice and
Speaker 2: fresh and rare and to go coming off a two
Speaker 2: week preparation for finals. Football cowboys make cowboys get in there.
Speaker 2: They're going to be a handful because as I said,
Speaker 2: they've got a good run home and they still got
Speaker 2: their buyers. So there's so many little factors coming into
Speaker 2: this final series.
Speaker 1: And then obviously Matthew, the TV deal that everyone keeps
Speaker 1: reporting on.
Speaker 2: Incredible, Mate, you are incredible.
Speaker 1: You're across a lot of it.
Speaker 2: Well, my understanding is it's going to be basically five
Speaker 2: billion five So what Peter of landis was after Peter
Speaker 2: of Landers was after over for full bing something he
Speaker 2: was looking at around four point four b in. He's
Speaker 2: got five b in. Basically that is the richest TV
Speaker 2: deal in Australian sports history. His whole thing you go
Speaker 2: understand about Peter of Alandi. Valandi's most driven man. He
Speaker 2: took He took New South Wales Racing when it was
Speaker 2: in crisis, the Equan influenza. He's built it up now
Speaker 2: into this powerhouse. Even down south of Melbourne Racing, Carnival
Speaker 2: Spring Carnival is untouchable. He's gone in and put a
Speaker 2: massive dint it, huge dint with the Everest, Golden Eogle,
Speaker 2: all those things. Like what he has done for New
Speaker 2: South Wales Racing has been insane. Now he's coming to
Speaker 2: the Rugby League and his big thing is with racing.
Speaker 2: He goes, I'm going to get like Melbourne, Melbourne Racing,
Speaker 2: Victoria Racing used to take the piss out of him
Speaker 2: quite a bit, and like because he came from I
Speaker 2: think it was greyhounds into trots and that they're like
Speaker 2: I made this blog and he went, I'm going to
Speaker 2: I'm going to give it to these places, and he
Speaker 2: has and he's done the same with the AFL. His
Speaker 2: whole thing was I'm going to beat the AFL TV
Speaker 2: deal and he's gone and he's done it. Now. So
Speaker 2: five BM seven years, Now, what does this mean? My understanding?
Speaker 2: At the moment, the CAP's around eleven point nine, they're
Speaker 2: saying the cap will go up, probably could hit a
Speaker 2: about eighteen million. The seller cap, aid of means so
Speaker 2: you so that means so if the salary cap goes up,
Speaker 2: what's that? Is that sort of about fifty or sixty percent?
Speaker 4: That all?
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's what's half of five point five? Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: about another fifty percent.
Speaker 2: So if it goes if it goes up, say fifty percent,
Speaker 2: So all of a sudden, Nathan Cleary, if he's on
Speaker 2: one point five million dollars, put another fifty percent, he's
Speaker 2: on two point two. Wow. So that's the difference is
Speaker 2: going to make to the game and the players. So
Speaker 2: what does that do? What that does is that stops
Speaker 2: the next Joseph Suli going to rugby union and in turn,
Speaker 2: what that what it's going to do. It's going to
Speaker 2: give rugby league clubs an opportunity to even sign European
Speaker 2: rugby players to get them to this competition. The flow
Speaker 2: and effect is going to be enormous.
Speaker 4: What I was going to say to you too, Matthew,
Speaker 4: because you don't see it much, is people talk about,
Speaker 4: you know, this rights to how it benefits clubs and
Speaker 4: players and salary caps and the organization itself and then
Speaker 4: obviously the broadcasters. But there's like, I'm not sure if
Speaker 4: you've got a few off your off the top of
Speaker 4: your head, I've got a couple here that like actually
Speaker 4: affect the fans in a positive way because obviously the
Speaker 4: fans listen to the TV rights deal from their perspective,
Speaker 4: they're going, that's great, but how is it a fed Yeah,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean? And I was looking at
Speaker 4: just before and some of the articles coming out now
Speaker 4: are starting to say, so what what could happen? How
Speaker 4: it's going to benefit the fans is obviously the broadcast
Speaker 4: are going to be better, there's going to be more coverage,
Speaker 4: more prime time TV and rugby league, but a big
Speaker 4: one too, like it could affect game day experience a
Speaker 4: lot for a lot of a lot of the lot
Speaker 4: of the fans too, Like we we could see not
Speaker 4: only like better deals or cheaper prices for tickets, but
Speaker 4: also better Dame Day experiences from you know, it could
Speaker 4: be from food to facilities, entertainment.
Speaker 2: They're talking about National un twenty ones competition.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, well that's the other one too. There's another
Speaker 4: one who's saying grassroots benefits and that's the one that
Speaker 4: you know, with having this deal if we do beat
Speaker 4: the a f L. The AFL have done so well
Speaker 4: with their junior grassroots systems, like the way they budget there,
Speaker 4: the facility, the resources out to junior clubs. Hopefully we'll see,
Speaker 4: you know, rugby league, the NRL itself will start really
Speaker 4: dipping into that.
Speaker 1: Saw how how good? Like six I can't remember how
Speaker 1: long Fox League has been around for, but like seven
Speaker 1: years ago. You just wait until the foot he was
Speaker 1: on to watch or have any football content. There's there's
Speaker 1: rugby league content twenty four to seven now, h Like definitely,
Speaker 1: you know it's also and you see end shout out
Speaker 1: to the fans because without the fans watching, engaging in it,
Speaker 1: you know, listen to dribblers like us on this podcast. Yep,
Speaker 1: the game doesn't grow and be able to have that
Speaker 1: sort of billion dollar deal.
Speaker 2: So shout out no doubt, mate, no doubt. Well that's
Speaker 2: the figures I've got there at adm B. The when
Speaker 2: I've come to Aden being listen to people that was
Speaker 2: in the paper. They're talking sorry, Aden, me and selar Cap.
Speaker 2: There was reports in the paper that could be twenty million.
Speaker 2: My understanding is that's a little high. I've heard other
Speaker 2: people say there's going to be more like sixteen and
Speaker 2: a half million, and I've heard now that's slightly low.
Speaker 2: I've come to Ad and me and on that okay,
Speaker 2: and I believe it is. I'm just creating from I
Speaker 2: believe sellar Cap at the moment is eleven point nine.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Now what this mean? You've got an extra game next
Speaker 2: year with Perth coming in there minudstanding, there won't be
Speaker 2: Monday on football, it'll be an extra same on a Sunday.
Speaker 2: It'll be something. You'll have a Sunday night game, so
Speaker 2: the four o'clock game, then you'll have a six o'clock claim.
Speaker 1: What happens to your show later?
Speaker 2: Maybe I don't be later. God. The next thing they're
Speaker 2: looking at with the money in the game is the
Speaker 2: global round they're talking about having. You know, you've got
Speaker 2: the Vegas experience, having one in London and another city
Speaker 2: and another one which is really really big that they're
Speaker 2: looking at. It's getting more and more likely is buying
Speaker 2: the UK Super League, which is enormous. Now it's going
Speaker 2: to be very interesting what they do if they buy that.
Speaker 2: At the moment, I believe over there in England it's
Speaker 2: split a little bit. I think the the ruling parties
Speaker 2: are a little bit they't want to lose control. But
Speaker 2: apparently all the strong clubs and the power breakers they're
Speaker 2: going to mate. This has to happen to save our competition.
Speaker 1: Yeah, someone someone said to me in the next sort
Speaker 1: of month, they're looking at it.
Speaker 2: The deal done so that now what may happen here people,
Speaker 2: you're going to understand it for our younger listeners. Here
Speaker 2: is what used to happen. Was they used to it
Speaker 2: used to be played. The rugby League was traditionally always
Speaker 2: played for one hundred years in the winter in England.
Speaker 2: Now we play winter. They played winter. So what they
Speaker 2: were allow to do is the best English players at
Speaker 2: the end of their season would come and play for
Speaker 2: about three months in Australia, the very best Australian players,
Speaker 2: vice versa. We'll go over and do stints over there.
Speaker 2: Now these days, with professionalism and loads and all that
Speaker 2: sort of stuff, you won't I don't think you'll see
Speaker 2: players come over for that long a stretch. But what
Speaker 2: you can actually start to do, and I just think
Speaker 2: this is really exciting, is that they if they decide
Speaker 2: the NRL to go, you know what, let's put it
Speaker 2: back to a winter competition. There'll be a little bit
Speaker 2: of pushback, but that will allow a crossover of codes
Speaker 2: more instance, will be like this, like Joey did when
Speaker 2: Joey was over here in the and the Nice got
Speaker 2: knocked out of the league. I think I've got about
Speaker 2: two thousand and five they got knocked out. He went
Speaker 2: over and did a four game stint with Warrington on
Speaker 2: the eve of the finals. I mean, it could be
Speaker 2: a situation where they go right for each club, you've
Speaker 2: got the top thirty squad. Then you've got two spare
Speaker 2: spots left, and you go right the finals coming up.
Speaker 2: Suddenly you know, the greatest English player in the world mate,
Speaker 2: all of a sudden he gets banged and they buy
Speaker 2: him and he comes over and he joins a week
Speaker 2: out from the finals, that would just be enormous and
Speaker 2: vice versa. It just adds a whole another demands.
Speaker 1: Imagine what that to do for the profile for some
Speaker 1: of the English, like in terms of they come out
Speaker 1: here to kill it in an NURL final series gets me,
Speaker 1: you might get a Clive Churchill and that way when
Speaker 1: he goes back to the English in a winter camp
Speaker 1: when it's on a different schedule, all the NFL fans
Speaker 1: are going, I want to watch you know so and so,
Speaker 1: and they watch the game. Like for Arabbia League supporters
Speaker 1: or for anyone like to have a game like that
Speaker 1: that could be year round where you're interested as interested
Speaker 1: in both comps. It would be great entertain agree.
Speaker 4: Because it needs to bridge the gap. Like I can't
Speaker 4: remember last time I watched like a live game of
Speaker 4: the Super League.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well made it. Well, I'll give you an example
Speaker 2: of what you're just talking about there, boys Ellery Hanley,
Speaker 2: who I talk about is my favorite player of all time.
Speaker 2: Ellary O was a Balmaine Tiger's fan and he was
Speaker 2: like a Wigan player but in Australia he was like,
Speaker 2: oh yeah, that Blake who plays ellery handling, and they
Speaker 2: signed him and he arrived halfway through the season. Made
Speaker 2: he took him right through the Grand Final. They went
Speaker 2: on about a nine to ten game winning streak, got
Speaker 2: to the Grand finally knocked out on the day. But
Speaker 2: then when he so after that the end of that season,
Speaker 2: he got awarded the Golden Boot, the greatest player in
Speaker 2: the world. Goes back to England, plays again, he gets
Speaker 2: brought out, doesn't go to Balmain the next year because
Speaker 2: he's out, he's out priced. Then a bonaire building guy
Speaker 2: called Jim Jim Masterson, he was he owned Western Sobers
Speaker 2: at that point, so he brought him to West. To
Speaker 2: give you a difference in the profile in twelve months
Speaker 2: for Ellary, when he went to West to play his
Speaker 2: first game, they had to have a team of security
Speaker 2: guards around him when they were doing the warm up.
Speaker 2: Well that's like, that's how big a profile that did
Speaker 2: for that player. So then when he went back to England,
Speaker 2: like the whole just rises. And that's what we can do,
Speaker 2: like you both competitions and all the teams can have
Speaker 2: two spare spots for a Tom Travoyevitch when the seasons
Speaker 2: finished to go up and join some Helen's for the
Speaker 2: end of the year. It's just insane and the players
Speaker 2: would love it, like players, players would love.
Speaker 1: It to get over there and you get back to
Speaker 1: preseason later.
Speaker 2: But I'm going to make it. Here's my hot take.
Speaker 1: Do it. Take your shirt off, just tap.
Speaker 4: The nipple rings out Pea of Andy's take your shirt off.
Speaker 2: Peter Andys is the greatest sports administrator in Australia's history.
Speaker 2: There you go, now, AFL people and that will people
Speaker 2: will go, hang on, what about this? What about that?
Speaker 2: I just want you to consider where rugby league was
Speaker 2: when he took over. The game was broke, The game
Speaker 2: was broke. And and what he has done, the Vegas stuff,
Speaker 2: you know how it's grown, the money the game has now,
Speaker 2: the assets of the game has got, the magic ground,
Speaker 2: all those things that he has done for the game
Speaker 2: is just insane and we should never lose sight of that,
Speaker 2: because what happens with Australia sometimes truly oppositional in the
Speaker 2: fact that someone says, mate, this guy is the best.
Speaker 2: People going no, no, he's not. Like Bob Hawk kop
Speaker 2: Jack was the greatest Prime minister in Australian history, Like
Speaker 2: Charisma he represented what it was to be Australian. But
Speaker 2: I remember at the end of his Prime ministership that'd go,
Speaker 2: you know, grand final day, welcome to the microphone, the
Speaker 2: Prime Minister Australia, Bob Hawk and everyone would boo, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean. Hard to believe now, but it happened.
Speaker 2: That's what that's what we do, is Ossie to an extent.
Speaker 2: Never do that, ped b Andes, because what he has
Speaker 2: done for this game is just remarkable.
Speaker 1: As the wise Man Batman, I think it wasn't Batman,
Speaker 1: it was the Commissioner. Gordon said you either die a
Speaker 1: hero or you live long enough to see yourself become
Speaker 1: a villain. And that's what we as Australians can do.
Speaker 1: You can quote me on that.
Speaker 2: That's I love that quote.
Speaker 1: You couldn't quote me on that, Gary old I will
Speaker 1: Gary Oldman.
Speaker 2: What an actor.
Speaker 1: He is, very talented, right.
Speaker 2: I never knew he was English, you know, until later on.
Speaker 2: And what he's rolling playing Winston Churchill was remarkable.
Speaker 1: He's good talent.
Speaker 4: Thurm and Copper did he back in the nineties, I think,
Speaker 4: oh way, yeah, I think there's a bit of an
Speaker 4: age gup there too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was going to say it was one of
Speaker 2: these I remember Lyle love it. It was a country singing.
Speaker 2: He dated Julie Roberts.
Speaker 1: Really, Jacob, I thought that was a strange match.
Speaker 4: You know, our man Angeline and Jolie.
Speaker 1: Billy Boy Thorton's.
Speaker 4: That one. Watching the footage from the nineties is.
Speaker 2: So so you're telling me I'm a chair.
Speaker 1: They're like passion on the red carpet and that were
Speaker 1: very publicly affectionate, had.
Speaker 4: Vials of each other's blood on a necklace.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. And Johnny Depp and Amber heard just
Speaker 2: never work old pistol and booo.
Speaker 1: All right people, see's next week.