WEBVTT - Blues Teamlist REACTION + The $5 Billion Deal That Changes Everything

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back back Fences. Look, we've just waited to do

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<v Speaker 1>this podcast to see what the new Soal's team is.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to do a bit of a reaction to

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<v Speaker 1>the announcement the Blues obviously Queensland are going to be

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<v Speaker 1>tomorrow when recording this their team announcement. We've also got

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<v Speaker 1>some mail on some transfer whispers before June thirty at

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<v Speaker 1>different clubs, some big injury news over the weekend and

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<v Speaker 1>some of the results, as well as a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of an update on where we think the competition's at

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<v Speaker 1>the moment, and some big news out of the TV

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<v Speaker 1>rights deal Matthew. But the new Sol's Blues side, we're

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<v Speaker 1>about to read through it. But initial reaction, what do

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<v Speaker 1>you think?

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<v Speaker 2>Look, there's there's some surprises and there's no doubt about it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Laurie will play, and I'll explain it a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit later when we get into it. I think

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<v Speaker 2>he'll play. I think he'll play Ducks and drakes a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit here in that in game two we thought

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<v Speaker 2>he'd do a little bit shifting around the last minute.

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't. I think he will here do you think yep?

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<v Speaker 2>I think he will. There's some surprise selections. But there's

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<v Speaker 2>a method there. Let's get into it. Let's talk.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's read. Let's read number one, James Tedesco.

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<v Speaker 2>Number just on Tedesco, I was of I thought that

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<v Speaker 2>Dylan Edwards. I probably would have brought him in. However,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it was bad timing. Dylan and Panthers lost

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<v Speaker 2>to the Cowboys, and he was underwhelming, what not one

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<v Speaker 2>of his better games, and I probably thought that was enough.

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<v Speaker 2>And Todsco was really strong. He was he was out

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<v Speaker 2>on Fox Sports our high flyer of the round, got

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<v Speaker 2>the most points for players under pressure, and so I

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<v Speaker 2>suppose that for me is undereniable.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the wingers, this is the biggest talking point, Mark Nagan,

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<v Speaker 1>he played in game two, Jackie Bostock coming in to

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<v Speaker 1>make his debut. Look, he's under and I have been

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<v Speaker 1>playing really good for the Dolphins. But the biggest talking

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<v Speaker 1>point Brian to a man who has done a lot

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<v Speaker 1>for the Blues, has played really good anytime he's in

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<v Speaker 1>that arena dropped.

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<v Speaker 2>That's just that that's a big surprise.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you can I ask you, like, because we've everyone speculating,

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<v Speaker 1>you know this played. Was there ever a part of

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<v Speaker 1>you that thought Biz was in doubt to be dropped potentially.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, he hasn't played anywhere near his best, but I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't think he'd be dropped. I just thought his yardage

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<v Speaker 2>is invaluable, so that's why I thought he'd remain. But

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, Coops, I'll say this. I wrote an

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<v Speaker 2>article on Friday about Laws and I said, the biggest

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<v Speaker 2>challenge for Laws is going to be to remove his

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<v Speaker 2>natural self from selections. What I mean by that he's

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<v Speaker 2>such a champion bloke and he's so loyal. But if

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<v Speaker 2>you look at coaches like Wayne Bennett, who's like a

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<v Speaker 2>father to his players, However, he'll kick someone out of

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<v Speaker 2>the family if they stand between he and success. And

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<v Speaker 2>for Laurie, he's got two big challenges. One is going

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<v Speaker 2>out to some corpse stadium and winning, obviously, but the

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<v Speaker 2>other big challenge was this challenge picking the team and

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<v Speaker 2>been able to make some really ruthless, tough decisions. It

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<v Speaker 2>was one of them. Interesting with Bostock, these two players

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<v Speaker 2>could not be more different. So's just pure yardage. Justly

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<v Speaker 2>the the greatest yardage winger in the history of the game.

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<v Speaker 2>Boss Stock is a high kick target. Yeah yeah, as

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<v Speaker 2>far as diffusing high kicks and as far as scoring

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<v Speaker 2>high kicks, he will be a huge here human Markey

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<v Speaker 2>mar Mark, knowing they will be big targets for Nathan

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<v Speaker 2>Cleary and Moses.

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<v Speaker 1>I did think that initially when I saw it, is like,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously he's performed when he's in that jersey, probably not

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<v Speaker 1>the last few games there. But we saw how isolated

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<v Speaker 1>they probably tried to go after putting Jojo Fafieda on

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<v Speaker 1>him in game two, So I have no doubt that

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<v Speaker 1>may have played into hand of Look, maybe we want

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<v Speaker 1>to have more kick targets for this game three, and

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<v Speaker 1>there's no doubt that two of the best kick targets

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<v Speaker 1>in the ENA right now is Jack Bostock and Mark.

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<v Speaker 1>They are extremely good kick targets. So look, and what

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<v Speaker 1>I'll say about Lorry, like people people giving it to Lorry,

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<v Speaker 1>and like some decisions have been big, and I understand

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<v Speaker 1>that that brings a lot of criticism. I've been critical

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<v Speaker 1>with some of the decisions as well. But for a

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<v Speaker 1>guy that everyone's like, you know, he's such a nice guy,

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<v Speaker 1>fire out. He's not afraid to go against like what

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<v Speaker 1>everyone else, like what people want and what people are saying,

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<v Speaker 1>like he is quite more ruthless than I probably thought

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of he's not afraid to make a big decision,

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<v Speaker 1>like this is a big decision.

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<v Speaker 2>I spoke to Lorry yesterday, had he armed him on

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<v Speaker 2>the phone, and I tell what it was. I got

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<v Speaker 2>what I got from it. When the way he was

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<v Speaker 2>talking about the game, he actually sounded like the old

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<v Speaker 2>Lorry like it made when Lurie was a player, mate,

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<v Speaker 2>particularly in his early years. Mate, he was wild, like

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like just so aggressive so forthright made him

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<v Speaker 2>just tear in but and obviously do down there's the

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<v Speaker 2>Lorry winner now. I just sensed when I had he

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<v Speaker 2>earned him on the phone, there was a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>the old Lorry like you're really decisive about things he

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<v Speaker 2>was going to do in the game and certain things.

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<v Speaker 2>I just went away and we'll get to it to

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<v Speaker 2>the end. I've got a real I've got a real

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<v Speaker 2>optimism about this game.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that's come from a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>like a lot of the pressure. And it's almost like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, after this, if I'm going to go out,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going out.

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<v Speaker 2>Of my terms. Here's the thing about laws and again

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<v Speaker 2>this way I wrote this in an article. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>matter what lass does right, It doesn't matter what side.

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<v Speaker 2>There was no compete there was. There was never going

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<v Speaker 2>to be a complete popular decision as far as his

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<v Speaker 2>selections are concerned. Whoever he selected, he was always going

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<v Speaker 2>to be branded one side a genius or a dunce.

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<v Speaker 2>Either way, it doesn't matter. So the thing was loss.

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<v Speaker 2>You just pick on your own intuition. Don't don't worry

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<v Speaker 2>about what you the player you think you should pick

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<v Speaker 2>or that. Mate, You just pick the side that you

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<v Speaker 2>think you need to pick to win. Because mate, he

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<v Speaker 2>knows winning. Mate, he's a winner.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I haven't agree with some of the stuff that's

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<v Speaker 1>happening in game one and game two, But at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the day, if he wins game three, all

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<v Speaker 1>of that stuff's avoid Who.

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<v Speaker 2>Gives a fuck bet anything's happening in game one, in

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<v Speaker 2>game two, you know the selections, it didn't work out,

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<v Speaker 2>you know the you know getting in the change is wrong,

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<v Speaker 2>losing track of inner change, all they It does not

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<v Speaker 2>matter is you clear the slate, just gonna win Game three.

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<v Speaker 2>Well known to Jack Bostock. I remember Jack when the

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<v Speaker 2>Dolphins first come into the competition, they signed him as

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<v Speaker 2>a young bloke. I remember watching a trial game and

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<v Speaker 2>they go, mate, this kid's something special and the poor

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<v Speaker 2>had been a young Blake had at a barrier.

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<v Speaker 3>Had a really tough one, and I thought, oh, yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>but I see it in the last twelve months they

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<v Speaker 3>were spot on and he's a real special player.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's a good I watched him play on a

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<v Speaker 1>nine ends origin. I think Jonah Pezant was his half

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<v Speaker 1>and he put on an absolute clinic.

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<v Speaker 2>Jackie I can repeat that here.

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<v Speaker 1>And the centers Stephen Crichton and Bradman Bess looked.

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<v Speaker 2>No surprises With Stephen Kricht, he's he's done, he's he's done.

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<v Speaker 2>Fantastic at the Dogs going into six. Interesting watching him

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<v Speaker 2>play six. Luke Kerey picked it up. He's doing the

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<v Speaker 2>majority of the calling, he said, Like Luke Hey said,

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<v Speaker 2>he's playing more half than probably than Lucky Galvin. But

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<v Speaker 2>the other thing is defending three in you know, like

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<v Speaker 2>him defending three and gives him greater control of that

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<v Speaker 2>defensive edge as far as calls and everything, like he's

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<v Speaker 2>the captain of that defense on the edge. And it's

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<v Speaker 2>really stiffened the Dogs up. And so he reverts now

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<v Speaker 2>to his preferred defensive position and this is the big matchup,

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<v Speaker 2>he versus Calen pomer and that's the big one.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, he'll be the right center and Bradman on the left.

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<v Speaker 1>And you said that after gain to where Caylyn kept

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<v Speaker 1>going down, they're putting Catoni Staggs under pressure and Nathan

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<v Speaker 1>there as well. I mean he's you're talking about smart

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<v Speaker 1>defensive centers who are also long and range. You can

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<v Speaker 1>get in the passing lane, go for interceps. No one

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<v Speaker 1>is better at it than Stephen Crichton.

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<v Speaker 2>To let people know, you know how important it is

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<v Speaker 2>inside and outside you to have a person you can

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<v Speaker 2>rely on, like, for instance, if I you know, let's say,

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<v Speaker 2>for instance, or like I'm defending and I've got a

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<v Speaker 2>guy who's inexperienced on the outside and he's not talking

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<v Speaker 2>to me. You've got to understanding defense. Half a second

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<v Speaker 2>of silence is unnerving. So it's like, right here, you

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<v Speaker 2>got what you're doing, and all of a sudden goes

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<v Speaker 2>yeah yeah, yeah, silence at half a second. This is

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<v Speaker 2>what forces you into a bad defensive route. What you

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<v Speaker 2>need to hear from the inside and outside is I

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<v Speaker 2>got him, I got him, I got him, I got him.

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<v Speaker 2>Come in in kill him outside in outside in, you

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<v Speaker 2>hear it continually. That gives you that safety and confidence

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<v Speaker 2>to just do you're wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>Yea, the best I ever played with doing that. Justin

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<v Speaker 1>Olum he even though English like when he first come

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<v Speaker 1>to Australia, he actually had to learn like English. Basically

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<v Speaker 1>he's not strong. But when he got really good at communicating.

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<v Speaker 1>To give people an example, if you're a half inside

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<v Speaker 1>Justin Olim he would live some of the stuff that

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<v Speaker 1>he would say to you. And Stephen Crichton is the same.

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<v Speaker 1>You can see he communicates exact same. He's loud and

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<v Speaker 1>he will actually identify the shape that's coming. You've got

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<v Speaker 1>a back rower that's going to run at your inside shoulder.

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<v Speaker 1>Justin used to say he was like Cooper, the blocks

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<v Speaker 1>on you, the blox on you. And then he'd say

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<v Speaker 1>if he's going deep, old jam like, he'll make you

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<v Speaker 1>comfortable so you actually know what's coming. Center is the

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<v Speaker 1>most important position on the field. They get the best

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<v Speaker 1>view and they're the ones, oftentimes are the ones that

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<v Speaker 1>I identify in the actual shape in communicating to the heart.

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<v Speaker 2>It's interesting to say that because when we played the

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<v Speaker 2>three inn was the most important. He was the shot caller.

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<v Speaker 2>He depended. He was the one that decided. We used

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<v Speaker 2>to call a Newcastle a red defense was up and

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<v Speaker 2>in the green defense was up and hold and slide.

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<v Speaker 2>But these days generally everyone just goes up square and

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<v Speaker 2>the center makes that defensive decision, don't they think if

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<v Speaker 2>they gam or whatever. So that's on him, But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's that's that's really smart from Oldham to actually recognize

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<v Speaker 2>the shape and then talk you through it. Bradman on

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<v Speaker 2>that left side, I thought they might have went for Turba,

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<v Speaker 2>but at the end of the day, Turbo hasn't played

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of center. You put a bloke in there

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<v Speaker 2>and Bradman's Bradman's strong.

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<v Speaker 4>I think Bradman's got an excellent record of origin. I

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<v Speaker 4>think the most controver, like the controversial part of that

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<v Speaker 4>is probably leaving Cooler out. I'd say Bradman's probably pretty trusted.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think anyone's saying that's a bad decision at all.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a great decision. But Cole has probably been hard

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<v Speaker 4>done by whether it comes in anywhere, whether it be

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<v Speaker 4>on the bench or whatever it is, is.

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<v Speaker 1>On that six man bench. Yeah, so he's there for

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<v Speaker 1>cover but yeah, it's weird with the six man bench.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like that that twenty it's very like immovable,

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<v Speaker 4>like leading to the game, like you don't know how

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<v Speaker 4>even himole like for the previous game.

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<v Speaker 2>I was I was.

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<v Speaker 4>Thinking to myself like, even though he's not even in

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<v Speaker 4>the starting team at all, or the bench, I was thinking,

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<v Speaker 4>for all, you know, on game day you can go

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<v Speaker 4>from that twenty straight to the starting back. You never

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<v Speaker 4>know how it's going to be maneuvered around the bench.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the halves obviously there was a bit of room

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<v Speaker 1>around potentially moving in the house, but they've stuck strong

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<v Speaker 1>with Mitchell Mosis and Nathan Cleary. Yeah that's surprising.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I thought because I watching Mitchell play the other night,

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<v Speaker 2>particularly defensively, to me, he appeared a long way off

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<v Speaker 2>being one hundred percent fit. But it's probably just the

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<v Speaker 2>stuff we're talking about there. He had young guys inside

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<v Speaker 2>and outside him. He's probably trying to solve decisions, solve

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<v Speaker 2>problems by himself. But look, one of those guys, Mitchell,

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<v Speaker 2>you just got to You've got to call him and

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<v Speaker 2>talk to him. And I think he's on and honest

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<v Speaker 2>enough that if you ring him and sae, Mitch, you

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<v Speaker 2>know the importance of this game. Come on, you know

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<v Speaker 2>how are you? You know you're going to be able

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<v Speaker 2>to be at your best? If he says to me,

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<v Speaker 2>yew I am, then look I put him in because

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<v Speaker 2>one thing you met, Mitchell is that mate, he has

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<v Speaker 2>got that healthy arrogance. He's the type of personality that

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<v Speaker 2>will go into sun Corps Stadium and that hostile environment

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<v Speaker 2>will bring out the best in him. And the bottom line, Coop,

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<v Speaker 2>is that I go. And you know I would have

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<v Speaker 2>went strange, but Coop, if you know Moses and Cleary

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<v Speaker 2>are on, you win.

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<v Speaker 1>And I did see. I was watching the list show

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<v Speaker 1>when Laurie announced the team and the big reason he

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<v Speaker 1>went with Bradman Bess He said, I want someone who's

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<v Speaker 1>used to the atmosphere at lang Park mostly sun Corp

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<v Speaker 1>Stadium now, but Bradman was a part of the series

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<v Speaker 1>the last series when they went up and he scored

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<v Speaker 1>the match winning try. So I mean Mitch Moses is

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<v Speaker 1>used to that hostile environment up there as well. The

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<v Speaker 1>front row announcement Paynehass, Rhys Robson and Mitchell Barnett.

0:11:58.600 --> 0:12:05.079
<v Speaker 2>Mitch Barnett, he wasn't in my nineteen. But Cooper, after

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<v Speaker 2>the way he played against the Dolphins, watching it, sitting

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<v Speaker 2>there and watching it, I thought, yeah, he'll he'll be picked.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought that was his that was by far his

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<v Speaker 2>best performance coming back from that ACL injury. So he's

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<v Speaker 2>starting to he's starting to sort of find his best

0:12:20.120 --> 0:12:22.680
<v Speaker 2>he's finding his best self. I thought he was really

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<v Speaker 2>really strong. So yeah, well under Mitch there Paynehouse who

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<v Speaker 2>goes with it. That goes without saying, if we just

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<v Speaker 2>move there, Cooper, just for one second, move on to

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<v Speaker 2>Isaai Yale. I think, I think Loriol paid, I think

0:12:37.760 --> 0:12:39.880
<v Speaker 2>you played Ducks and Drakes here, you do, I think

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<v Speaker 2>Murial start. I just look at one thing we really

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<v Speaker 2>knew early in the game. We need Upfiell thrust and

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<v Speaker 2>punch because that gets Nathan and Mitchell in the groove,

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<v Speaker 2>gets some going. I look and I go, pain, Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>but but Mitch Barnett's not like what you'd call a

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<v Speaker 2>powerhouse Mota Eader like, he works his ass off, brilliant,

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<v Speaker 2>but he's not a powerhouse of Bens the line back

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<v Speaker 2>all the time, and neither is Isaiah. Isaiah is more

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<v Speaker 2>of a passer. So I think, looking at the line

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<v Speaker 2>up there from one to thirteen. I think that middle

0:13:11.000 --> 0:13:13.319
<v Speaker 2>we lack a little bit of punch. I'm certain Cam

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<v Speaker 2>Murray are going to third.

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<v Speaker 1>You really do?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I do it because look a lot everyone was speculating, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>Game two is going to be a bit of ducks

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<v Speaker 1>and trapes, and then when everybody got the pre game

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<v Speaker 1>there was nothing. Do I think he will.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think you will. Well, if I put it

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<v Speaker 2>this way, I'm absolutely certain. I bet my kid's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>say my life wouldn't do that. I'll bet my blue

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<v Speaker 2>Swede shoes that either Barnett or Isaia Ah will make

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<v Speaker 2>way for Cam Murray in the starting link.

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<v Speaker 4>What has that jacket you got last week that you

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<v Speaker 4>took into the podcast, that shocking brown cardigan thing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's one of those things Jack like, when you look

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<v Speaker 2>at the mirror you're looking at it's pretty stylish. And

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<v Speaker 2>then when I saw it in the little cuts you did,

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<v Speaker 2>you're right, it was just all fitting.

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<v Speaker 1>I get to burn your jacket. If you're wrong, you're welcome.

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<v Speaker 1>You can buy okay, and then obviously reach Reece Robson.

0:14:07.000 --> 0:14:09.760
<v Speaker 1>People are sort of saying whether Appy Blake Brailey has

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<v Speaker 1>come onto the bench, but whether they're going to play

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<v Speaker 1>a bit of stuff, whether it's Blake Brailey and Appy

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<v Speaker 1>corus our. Ree Robson played really well against the Broncos

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<v Speaker 1>the other night in that Rooster side. My big thing

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<v Speaker 1>looking at that is, I think, Laurie, you saw the

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<v Speaker 1>mistake in game two in terms of the interchange. He

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<v Speaker 1>can't have the mentality that Ree Robson is going to

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<v Speaker 1>play eighty minutes. I think there's got to be some

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<v Speaker 1>sort of better plan there.

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't surprise me if Blake comes on sort of

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<v Speaker 2>bit midweth through the first half. The thing about it

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<v Speaker 2>is with the nine in the current rules and which

0:14:41.960 --> 0:14:45.680
<v Speaker 2>make the middle defenses really vulnerable, the easiest and the

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<v Speaker 2>best place to attack from stummy half Scoop and gar. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's immediate and it's straight, and that's why I

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<v Speaker 2>would have started. That's why I would have went with Appy,

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<v Speaker 2>the combination of Appy and Blake Brayley. But Reece he

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<v Speaker 2>is a very easy guy to get behind because he

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<v Speaker 2>but because he's all heart. Sorry I'm a little bit tired.

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<v Speaker 2>He's all hard.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. The back row as well, another big decision in

0:15:14.080 --> 0:15:16.840
<v Speaker 1>their Hutson Young obviously speaks to himself on that left side.

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<v Speaker 1>Leam Martin has come straight into the starting side. You

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<v Speaker 1>were big on this in the in your article and

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<v Speaker 1>whatnot through the media during the week. You thought Liam

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<v Speaker 1>Martin is a player no matter his former club because

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<v Speaker 1>he hasn't been playing his best football, but he elevates

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<v Speaker 1>in that jersey.

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<v Speaker 2>Months still hate that selection. Yeah, that's enough, it's enough

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<v Speaker 2>said on mate. Monster will hate that.

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<v Speaker 1>They have a big rivalry here and money they always have.

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<v Speaker 1>They go at each other quite hard. And he's and

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<v Speaker 1>every time Lea Martin's been in a Blue jersey, anytime

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<v Speaker 1>there's a kick chase or anything, he goes after people, doesn't.

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<v Speaker 2>He does, and just looking at his left side semi

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<v Speaker 2>generally his right side and if he if Sammy Walker

0:15:56.400 --> 0:15:58.400
<v Speaker 2>switches over that side a little bit like we've seen

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<v Speaker 2>him do occasionally, you'll go after see hi.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, isaiahell like we just spoke about him. Cam Murray

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<v Speaker 1>on the bench, which you're saying you'll start start. Adam

0:16:06.640 --> 0:16:11.480
<v Speaker 1>Fanila Blake Hamalekawatu fifteen and sixteen was a tall man.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a that first interchange. We get that timing right,

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<v Speaker 2>Los gets that timing right. That's a big boost if

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<v Speaker 2>you get Adam you know coming on. If you if

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<v Speaker 2>you don't like put it this way, if you would

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<v Speaker 2>start with Cam Murray, Isaiah and pain if you can

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<v Speaker 2>do that first in the change of say Isaiah comes

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<v Speaker 2>off and Adam comes on and have about ten to

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen minutes there of adding and Payne operating with Kem

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<v Speaker 2>Murray altogether. Fucking hell mate, you know you're gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>eating in him there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then Ham. I'm I think Ham needs to

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<v Speaker 1>have They need to have a plan, not just if

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<v Speaker 1>a back row gets hurt like Camalo you need him

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<v Speaker 1>in that game. We saw what he did in the

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<v Speaker 1>Cooper Johns Cup on the weekend against Melbourne. He was

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<v Speaker 1>the best player on that field. I actually do have

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<v Speaker 1>He actually got my Cup Player of the Match.

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<v Speaker 2>And that must have mean that it must have been

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<v Speaker 2>everything for him.

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<v Speaker 1>I messaged him anyhow address I said, mate, you can't

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<v Speaker 1>pick it up. He said, who is this block? My number?

0:17:05.640 --> 0:17:07.480
<v Speaker 4>Great to see the storm really turn off the Cuba

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<v Speaker 4>John's cut.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, yeah, are going to talk. Probably didn't go

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<v Speaker 2>have the impact you thought it could.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's good to see, I mean something to the

0:17:14.960 --> 0:17:17.360
<v Speaker 1>manly boys. That's the positive, but I think you need

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<v Speaker 1>to get him out there. They used to have a

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<v Speaker 1>good combination where they get Martin off or move Martin

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<v Speaker 1>into the middle. I think that's probably where they looked at.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I would love to see in the middle operating.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd love to see Hudson Young. Yeah, Hudson Young with

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<v Speaker 2>his speed and his footwork through the middle. That that

0:17:31.760 --> 0:17:33.200
<v Speaker 2>is a guy that I would love to see there.

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<v Speaker 2>If you want to talk about a blitzkrieg that you

0:17:35.440 --> 0:17:38.800
<v Speaker 2>got when if they look vulnerable, a lightweight blitz kreeg

0:17:38.800 --> 0:17:41.080
<v Speaker 2>where you just go at them and try to drive

0:17:41.160 --> 0:17:44.440
<v Speaker 2>them through the middle, you'd have you know, through the middle,

0:17:44.480 --> 0:17:49.560
<v Speaker 2>you'd have Ethan Strange and and Hudson Hudson operating through

0:17:49.560 --> 0:17:51.879
<v Speaker 2>that middle. Mate with his spoed and foodwork. That'd be

0:17:51.960 --> 0:17:53.760
<v Speaker 2>really hard to handle. You just got to get the

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<v Speaker 2>timing right. You've got to get the time. You know.

0:17:56.040 --> 0:17:58.879
<v Speaker 4>That's if you don't know a blitzkrieg. Year is coupo.

0:17:58.920 --> 0:18:01.520
<v Speaker 4>It was a military tactic world War two, mathe you go,

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<v Speaker 4>that was that. Yeah, it's a military tactic. Bush I

0:18:04.640 --> 0:18:05.719
<v Speaker 4>think for a German.

0:18:05.920 --> 0:18:08.240
<v Speaker 2>I know it was for a lightning wall, Yes, I know,

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<v Speaker 2>it right, you got to Jack, Yeah, I know it was,

0:18:10.480 --> 0:18:12.720
<v Speaker 2>and then it's good. I'm glad you explained it. I

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<v Speaker 2>just took it and it was a great song from Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Blitz Green.

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<v Speaker 1>It's in the school of Rock.

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<v Speaker 2>Blake was Jack Black for you, doesn't it?

0:18:22.359 --> 0:18:25.720
<v Speaker 1>Blake, Blake, Bradley, Ethan Strange, Toller Colo up we spoke

0:18:25.760 --> 0:18:29.119
<v Speaker 1>about and then Victor Radley, he's moved the twentieth. I

0:18:29.160 --> 0:18:32.720
<v Speaker 1>don't think Victor probably did a lot wrong in that game.

0:18:32.760 --> 0:18:34.640
<v Speaker 1>I thought he probably does, like he didn't do anything

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<v Speaker 1>to lose this spot. I think maybe Laurie just had

0:18:37.320 --> 0:18:39.520
<v Speaker 1>to make way for some other people. You actually had

0:18:39.600 --> 0:18:43.240
<v Speaker 1>Victor on your show tonight when the team was announced.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well you look, Victor wasn't given anything away like

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<v Speaker 2>I because, as Jack said, you don't know like you know,

0:18:53.560 --> 0:18:55.800
<v Speaker 2>it's very It's every chance that Laurie might have said him,

0:18:55.840 --> 0:18:58.520
<v Speaker 2>may listen, you're twenty, but just keep it under wraps

0:18:58.520 --> 0:18:59.960
<v Speaker 2>and might be playing doctor in your except But I

0:19:00.240 --> 0:19:01.880
<v Speaker 2>don't know. But I said to him at the time

0:19:01.920 --> 0:19:03.880
<v Speaker 2>when he came back and he got the phone call

0:19:03.920 --> 0:19:08.000
<v Speaker 2>and all he said, and make you talk about it's

0:19:08.080 --> 0:19:11.439
<v Speaker 2>the mark of a man. He said, oh yeah, you know,

0:19:11.480 --> 0:19:12.800
<v Speaker 2>it's all good. I'm going to go in there and

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<v Speaker 2>just make give him best and lift the boys for it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's good.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it was awesome. But again, you know, you

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, Lorry, this could make There could be a

0:19:20.920 --> 0:19:22.040
<v Speaker 2>lot of ducks and drakes going on.

0:19:22.160 --> 0:19:24.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I like that from Victoriday EXAs a legend. Everyone

0:19:24.760 --> 0:19:27.440
<v Speaker 1>was taught, I'll tell you what. Like a lot of

0:19:27.440 --> 0:19:30.240
<v Speaker 1>people probably different stages, hard done by with selection. I know,

0:19:30.400 --> 0:19:33.080
<v Speaker 1>like even Dylan Lucas, one of our friends. Outside of there,

0:19:33.359 --> 0:19:35.520
<v Speaker 1>there's just good. There's a lot of competition with spots

0:19:35.520 --> 0:19:37.640
<v Speaker 1>in some well, so not everyone can get picked. It's

0:19:37.640 --> 0:19:39.200
<v Speaker 1>good to see the attitude of some of the boys.

0:19:39.240 --> 0:19:41.719
<v Speaker 1>Even in game two for vi all reports was amazing

0:19:41.720 --> 0:19:43.400
<v Speaker 1>in the camp class.

0:19:43.440 --> 0:19:46.119
<v Speaker 2>The way he handled that our mission, Homol, it was

0:19:46.200 --> 0:19:48.199
<v Speaker 2>just class and that was his reward get back in

0:19:48.320 --> 0:19:51.119
<v Speaker 2>and and and Victorius, I said, I'm not sure, but

0:19:51.200 --> 0:19:53.800
<v Speaker 2>if you know, if that is that if with this said, mate,

0:19:53.800 --> 0:19:55.959
<v Speaker 2>you're not going to the way he handled it, and

0:19:56.000 --> 0:20:00.000
<v Speaker 2>I saw it, you know, face to face class class.

0:20:00.320 --> 0:20:02.679
<v Speaker 1>We're going to talk more about previewing it next Monday.

0:20:02.680 --> 0:20:04.320
<v Speaker 1>Before the game, we just wanted to give a little

0:20:04.359 --> 0:20:07.359
<v Speaker 1>live reaction to the Blues team. Obviously, Maron's tomorrow, but

0:20:07.920 --> 0:20:09.720
<v Speaker 1>June thirty in a couple of days, well math here

0:20:09.840 --> 0:20:13.520
<v Speaker 1>lots of rumors going around about. I mean, the biggest

0:20:13.560 --> 0:20:16.760
<v Speaker 1>storyline from the June thirty stuff is Bronson Cherry could

0:20:16.760 --> 0:20:21.280
<v Speaker 1>potentially be going down to Melbourne Storm. Apparently he's allegedly

0:20:21.320 --> 0:20:25.040
<v Speaker 1>signed already, I've heard and then great pick up for mel.

0:20:24.960 --> 0:20:27.200
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think a journal announced it was he's signed

0:20:27.200 --> 0:20:29.040
<v Speaker 4>possibly a three year deal already.

0:20:30.520 --> 0:20:33.879
<v Speaker 1>I love Bronson Cherry. You love Bronze Cherry's and you

0:20:34.000 --> 0:20:36.879
<v Speaker 1>just know you get him down in that Melbourne system,

0:20:37.320 --> 0:20:39.159
<v Speaker 1>he could be a really really good bye for them.

0:20:39.160 --> 0:20:42.560
<v Speaker 2>When the Dogs bought him, I was watching him, took

0:20:42.640 --> 0:20:44.399
<v Speaker 2>him about took him about eight or nine weeks to

0:20:44.400 --> 0:20:46.480
<v Speaker 2>put him in first grade because he had such a

0:20:46.480 --> 0:20:48.320
<v Speaker 2>long time out of the game. He was playing New

0:20:48.320 --> 0:20:50.120
<v Speaker 2>South Wales Cup and they watched him in New South

0:20:50.480 --> 0:20:54.199
<v Speaker 2>Wild's Cup and May's just come made. This bloke's just

0:20:54.359 --> 0:20:58.920
<v Speaker 2>made his league's lengths above this level. Mate. I think

0:20:58.960 --> 0:21:02.360
<v Speaker 2>I love about Bronson. He's a powerhouse and yardage, he's

0:21:02.359 --> 0:21:07.520
<v Speaker 2>a great finisher and he's fast. Mate. Yeah, Like I said,

0:21:07.600 --> 0:21:10.040
<v Speaker 2>last year when he was flying last year. At times

0:21:10.040 --> 0:21:13.679
<v Speaker 2>I said, honestly, you could put him in state of origin.

0:21:13.720 --> 0:21:16.080
<v Speaker 2>He's got that state of origin for Suk, for Zoke

0:21:16.119 --> 0:21:19.040
<v Speaker 2>and all the attributes. So for Melbourne, that's it's a

0:21:19.040 --> 0:21:23.320
<v Speaker 2>great pickup and I'm really surprised that the Dogs have

0:21:23.400 --> 0:21:27.880
<v Speaker 2>allowed him to go. Great pickup and good for Bronson too.

0:21:27.880 --> 0:21:30.040
<v Speaker 2>May going down to Melbourne. It's gonna be it's good

0:21:30.040 --> 0:21:30.520
<v Speaker 2>move for him.

0:21:30.520 --> 0:21:32.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm here in that. I mean it's I think tomorrow

0:21:32.880 --> 0:21:34.639
<v Speaker 1>is June thirty. I'm here in that he might be.

0:21:35.200 --> 0:21:36.800
<v Speaker 1>He's might be going down there in the next couple

0:21:36.800 --> 0:21:37.200
<v Speaker 1>of days.

0:21:37.359 --> 0:21:40.040
<v Speaker 2>So that's pretty that's well, that's really interesting coup because

0:21:40.320 --> 0:21:43.040
<v Speaker 2>I looked at we were at the game the other

0:21:43.119 --> 0:21:46.399
<v Speaker 2>night watching at the Cooper John's Cup, and I was

0:21:46.400 --> 0:21:49.600
<v Speaker 2>watching Melbourne. I thought, yeah, it's going this year's and

0:21:49.640 --> 0:21:52.360
<v Speaker 2>anomally there were just things in their game. But I'll

0:21:52.359 --> 0:21:53.840
<v Speaker 2>tell you what, I could think it'll win six of

0:21:53.840 --> 0:21:56.760
<v Speaker 2>the last eight and they've got a tough draw. But

0:21:57.560 --> 0:21:59.399
<v Speaker 2>if they get him down there and he starts to

0:21:59.400 --> 0:22:02.040
<v Speaker 2>play his best football, and who knows, they might be

0:22:02.119 --> 0:22:03.240
<v Speaker 2>able to creep in correct.

0:22:03.640 --> 0:22:05.840
<v Speaker 1>And then also some just big news from the round

0:22:05.880 --> 0:22:09.120
<v Speaker 1>just going in the same game. Luke Brooks has done

0:22:09.119 --> 0:22:11.160
<v Speaker 1>his acl Man, which is going to see him back

0:22:11.200 --> 0:22:12.880
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty seven midway through the year.

0:22:13.320 --> 0:22:15.200
<v Speaker 2>That's a shape because mate, he was one of the

0:22:15.200 --> 0:22:19.960
<v Speaker 2>biggest beneficiaries of fosball. Yeah, Kieran being a playmaker and

0:22:20.040 --> 0:22:22.840
<v Speaker 2>understand how to switch playmakers on Brooks, he was playing

0:22:22.840 --> 0:22:25.600
<v Speaker 2>some of the best football his career. Finally just got

0:22:25.640 --> 0:22:28.199
<v Speaker 2>him in the sweet spot. That's tragic and him and.

0:22:28.640 --> 0:22:31.159
<v Speaker 1>It's going to be a big loss for Manly, but

0:22:32.240 --> 0:22:36.160
<v Speaker 1>one a glass half full perspective. Young Joey Wals should

0:22:36.240 --> 0:22:38.639
<v Speaker 1>have been trying. Who's been playing really good football. When

0:22:38.680 --> 0:22:41.520
<v Speaker 1>he's in there, he gets a chance to really come

0:22:41.520 --> 0:22:44.040
<v Speaker 1>into first grade consistently in the back end of the

0:22:44.080 --> 0:22:46.120
<v Speaker 1>year of a team that's really going well and potentially

0:22:46.200 --> 0:22:48.680
<v Speaker 1>cement that number six role as his own.

0:22:49.640 --> 0:22:51.840
<v Speaker 2>I mean, is the X factor in it? Yeah, isn't.

0:22:52.000 --> 0:22:55.560
<v Speaker 2>Isn't And this is a really big X factor. How

0:22:55.960 --> 0:22:58.240
<v Speaker 2>Joey goes in there and goes I mean, let's go

0:22:58.320 --> 0:23:02.840
<v Speaker 2>back to twenty eleven. Young bloke Dally Cherry Evans sort

0:23:02.840 --> 0:23:04.760
<v Speaker 2>of went into the mainly first grade side in his

0:23:04.840 --> 0:23:08.080
<v Speaker 2>first year. You know and leads them to a competition

0:23:08.119 --> 0:23:10.120
<v Speaker 2>when now it's a long long way to go there

0:23:10.119 --> 0:23:12.159
<v Speaker 2>for Joey. I'm not going to draw that conclusion, but

0:23:12.200 --> 0:23:13.959
<v Speaker 2>it just shows you when a young player comes in

0:23:14.160 --> 0:23:17.400
<v Speaker 2>who can transform a team, and Joey can certainly do that.

0:23:17.640 --> 0:23:19.800
<v Speaker 4>Also, I'll just say to you too, like I have

0:23:19.880 --> 0:23:22.920
<v Speaker 4>tied it well, like they re signed him till twenty

0:23:23.000 --> 0:23:25.560
<v Speaker 4>nine last week, so like if he goes in and

0:23:25.680 --> 0:23:28.600
<v Speaker 4>kills it, they've just got an absolute bargain on their hands.

0:23:28.600 --> 0:23:30.440
<v Speaker 1>Manly, it's a really good point.

0:23:30.480 --> 0:23:32.240
<v Speaker 2>But you know, Jack and the thing about it is

0:23:32.280 --> 0:23:34.240
<v Speaker 2>too and this is a lesson kids, and this is

0:23:34.280 --> 0:23:36.440
<v Speaker 2>a theme that has run through this podcast so far.

0:23:36.680 --> 0:23:38.960
<v Speaker 2>So far, it's how you deal with some things that

0:23:39.040 --> 0:23:41.720
<v Speaker 2>don't always go your way. Joey the way he started,

0:23:41.840 --> 0:23:43.720
<v Speaker 2>you know, the year and flashes of brilliance, people have

0:23:43.760 --> 0:23:45.400
<v Speaker 2>been going, mate, this kid's got to be in the team,

0:23:45.400 --> 0:23:48.160
<v Speaker 2>et cetera, et cetera. He has never he's never turned

0:23:48.160 --> 0:23:50.159
<v Speaker 2>his toes up and gone no no, or blown up

0:23:50.240 --> 0:23:52.720
<v Speaker 2>or wanted to release or threaten the club anyway, shape

0:23:52.760 --> 0:23:55.560
<v Speaker 2>or form. He has shown class and being willing to

0:23:55.600 --> 0:23:59.360
<v Speaker 2>sit behind Jamal and Brooksy and be patient and now

0:23:59.359 --> 0:24:02.919
<v Speaker 2>his time has come and it's just really exciting and

0:24:03.359 --> 0:24:05.320
<v Speaker 2>it's a really good combination. He's got to He's going

0:24:05.320 --> 0:24:07.959
<v Speaker 2>to have a great mentor there in Jamal. Jamal's strength

0:24:08.119 --> 0:24:10.359
<v Speaker 2>is and we had him on the podcast. Jamal said,

0:24:10.520 --> 0:24:12.479
<v Speaker 2>the two things I'm good at that I focus on,

0:24:12.960 --> 0:24:16.720
<v Speaker 2>he said, is organizing and kicking. He's going to do that.

0:24:16.720 --> 0:24:19.720
<v Speaker 2>That's going to allow Joey some freedom to play ram

0:24:19.760 --> 0:24:22.400
<v Speaker 2>around the field. So that's that's really exciting.

0:24:22.640 --> 0:24:24.440
<v Speaker 1>And is he can't tell your man? I know you're

0:24:24.800 --> 0:24:27.719
<v Speaker 1>probably the biggest Easy Cartell fan of anyone in the NRL.

0:24:28.960 --> 0:24:31.399
<v Speaker 1>He fractured his wrist on the weekend as well, a

0:24:31.440 --> 0:24:33.680
<v Speaker 1>massive loss for the Dolphins. He's been an integral part

0:24:33.680 --> 0:24:37.199
<v Speaker 1>of their attack. But the Dolphins who were flying at

0:24:37.200 --> 0:24:39.679
<v Speaker 1>the moment he got a pretty early. Brad Schneider went

0:24:39.720 --> 0:24:41.919
<v Speaker 1>on and they ended up grinding a really good win

0:24:41.960 --> 0:24:45.239
<v Speaker 1>against the Wires. But I'm not sure the timeline of

0:24:45.760 --> 0:24:48.960
<v Speaker 1>is his injury. But can they can they How does

0:24:49.000 --> 0:24:52.879
<v Speaker 1>this affect their final chances? It just all depends what

0:24:52.960 --> 0:24:55.360
<v Speaker 1>it means. So if is he he'll get the scan

0:24:55.440 --> 0:24:58.080
<v Speaker 1>and everything done to speak to the surgeon. Hopefully it's

0:24:58.080 --> 0:25:00.040
<v Speaker 1>not too bad, too bad a frash all war. I

0:25:00.160 --> 0:25:02.600
<v Speaker 1>say this not in a bad spot that basically prolongs

0:25:02.600 --> 0:25:03.320
<v Speaker 1>that they come back.

0:25:03.720 --> 0:25:06.960
<v Speaker 2>Hopefully. It's only you know, four or five weeks, which

0:25:07.040 --> 0:25:11.600
<v Speaker 2>is still a fair spot out, but it affects us.

0:25:12.080 --> 0:25:14.440
<v Speaker 2>I think that I think the Dolphins can win the competition.

0:25:14.720 --> 0:25:17.560
<v Speaker 2>But if you tell me that easy Gita, you know

0:25:18.760 --> 0:25:23.240
<v Speaker 2>that he's not going to be there, then then he's

0:25:23.240 --> 0:25:24.640
<v Speaker 2>still their most important players.

0:25:24.640 --> 0:25:26.800
<v Speaker 4>Look at it right now too, Like it's a crazy

0:25:26.880 --> 0:25:29.040
<v Speaker 4>you know how Like we talked about the middle part

0:25:29.080 --> 0:25:31.080
<v Speaker 4>of the ladder sort of like that bottleneck, Well it's

0:25:31.080 --> 0:25:33.240
<v Speaker 4>not really the middle third. It's actually gone up. So

0:25:33.280 --> 0:25:36.520
<v Speaker 4>you've got we've got the Wires, Dolphins, Roosters, and Knights

0:25:36.600 --> 0:25:40.280
<v Speaker 4>all locked in twenty four points on second position locked in,

0:25:40.320 --> 0:25:42.960
<v Speaker 4>and then we've got we've got another three teams locked

0:25:42.960 --> 0:25:45.640
<v Speaker 4>in at six, seven, and eight. So like even then,

0:25:45.760 --> 0:25:48.200
<v Speaker 4>like the Dolphins are sitting there at third, but they're

0:25:48.240 --> 0:25:50.359
<v Speaker 4>four points away from being first on the ladder, and

0:25:50.400 --> 0:25:52.480
<v Speaker 4>then they are four points below them from being out

0:25:52.480 --> 0:25:52.840
<v Speaker 4>of the eight.

0:25:53.040 --> 0:25:56.960
<v Speaker 2>I was a believer, boys is you don't see an

0:25:56.960 --> 0:26:00.320
<v Speaker 2>effect a great player has on a team till the

0:26:00.359 --> 0:26:03.119
<v Speaker 2>following week. So you get there. You know, you're in

0:26:03.160 --> 0:26:04.720
<v Speaker 2>a game, in the in the cut and thrust of

0:26:04.800 --> 0:26:07.600
<v Speaker 2>a game, and suddenly easy Guitara gets injured. It's all right,

0:26:07.640 --> 0:26:10.359
<v Speaker 2>you know, other players, you don't have time for it

0:26:10.359 --> 0:26:12.679
<v Speaker 2>to affect your confidence. Yeah, that makes sense. You're in

0:26:12.760 --> 0:26:14.240
<v Speaker 2>the you're in the you know, you're in the cut

0:26:14.240 --> 0:26:16.440
<v Speaker 2>and thrust and you just going. But and you saw

0:26:16.480 --> 0:26:18.359
<v Speaker 2>that in the weekend, like they didn't miss a beat.

0:26:18.840 --> 0:26:20.080
<v Speaker 2>But now they're going to sit for a week and

0:26:20.080 --> 0:26:21.520
<v Speaker 2>they've got to prepare and they've got to go through

0:26:21.520 --> 0:26:24.480
<v Speaker 2>all the nuances of training, and you don't know. Sometimes

0:26:24.480 --> 0:26:26.720
<v Speaker 2>you know, you get blokes finish their training session of

0:26:26.800 --> 0:26:30.160
<v Speaker 2>driving home going, it's not the same without him missing.

0:26:30.119 --> 0:26:30.760
<v Speaker 2>It's all that.

0:26:31.240 --> 0:26:34.440
<v Speaker 1>That's a good point because like you think about, where

0:26:34.440 --> 0:26:37.600
<v Speaker 1>does confidence go into a game. Confidence comes from preparation,

0:26:37.960 --> 0:26:39.959
<v Speaker 1>like it is, it comes from preparation. It comes from

0:26:39.960 --> 0:26:43.560
<v Speaker 1>people talking and conveying a really clear message on the

0:26:43.600 --> 0:26:45.800
<v Speaker 1>Dolphins playing the Warriors on the weekend, this is the

0:26:45.800 --> 0:26:48.040
<v Speaker 1>shakes we want to run, This is how we want

0:26:48.080 --> 0:26:49.480
<v Speaker 1>to play the Dolphins. This is how we want to

0:26:49.480 --> 0:26:51.439
<v Speaker 1>play the Warriors. And then, like you said, if he's

0:26:51.480 --> 0:26:53.560
<v Speaker 1>the guitar gets injured in the first ten minutes, that plan,

0:26:53.760 --> 0:26:56.399
<v Speaker 1>that plan that is he helped create, doesn't change. That

0:26:56.440 --> 0:26:58.840
<v Speaker 1>doesn't change the training through the week that's the thing

0:26:58.840 --> 0:27:00.919
<v Speaker 1>that has laid the platform for that win on the weekend.

0:27:01.040 --> 0:27:05.840
<v Speaker 2>They have got a very very strong system. However, the

0:27:05.880 --> 0:27:08.600
<v Speaker 2>loss of easy Gaitoa to the Dolphins is like Nathan

0:27:08.640 --> 0:27:11.960
<v Speaker 2>being out for the Panrith Panthers made. I think it's identical.

0:27:12.040 --> 0:27:14.760
<v Speaker 2>I think it's I think it's only more Yeah, yep, yep,

0:27:14.800 --> 0:27:19.440
<v Speaker 2>I think so young side, he's just he's a juniors footballer,

0:27:19.720 --> 0:27:22.320
<v Speaker 2>so that's hopefully. I just want him back. I want

0:27:22.359 --> 0:27:23.680
<v Speaker 2>to see him back on the field before final.

0:27:23.760 --> 0:27:27.080
<v Speaker 1>While we're we're almost like past the halfway point of

0:27:27.119 --> 0:27:28.800
<v Speaker 1>the season, let's get can we give a little bit

0:27:28.800 --> 0:27:31.000
<v Speaker 1>of an update. Where do we see because teams are

0:27:31.040 --> 0:27:33.960
<v Speaker 1>sort of fluctuated, forms going up, forms going down. Who

0:27:33.960 --> 0:27:35.879
<v Speaker 1>are the teams right now that you think they can

0:27:35.920 --> 0:27:36.440
<v Speaker 1>win the camp?

0:27:37.280 --> 0:27:42.320
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Panthers goes with that saying roosters wars. So there

0:27:42.359 --> 0:27:51.879
<v Speaker 2>wars like certain little aspects, uh Tomorray Martin and and

0:27:52.000 --> 0:27:53.960
<v Speaker 2>Chanelle at the at the moment, God, I'd love to

0:27:53.960 --> 0:27:57.120
<v Speaker 2>see metcalf find watched him play in New South Wales

0:27:57.200 --> 0:28:00.240
<v Speaker 2>Cup today has some good moments. Your running game was good.

0:28:00.359 --> 0:28:04.440
<v Speaker 2>It's called to try. I'd love to see him sort

0:28:04.440 --> 0:28:06.880
<v Speaker 2>of start to find toward that form of last year.

0:28:07.160 --> 0:28:08.640
<v Speaker 2>If he can do that, then I go, mate, they're

0:28:08.720 --> 0:28:11.199
<v Speaker 2>up to their eyeballs. I think they can still win

0:28:11.240 --> 0:28:14.919
<v Speaker 2>the comp Their system of play is so strong Dolphins.

0:28:15.080 --> 0:28:17.560
<v Speaker 2>But again that Cavet sitting there with with easy at

0:28:17.560 --> 0:28:23.480
<v Speaker 2>the moment and and Manly. I liked Manly at round four.

0:28:23.520 --> 0:28:25.600
<v Speaker 2>You to have him at two hundred to one, you know,

0:28:26.200 --> 0:28:29.120
<v Speaker 2>coach Ben sacked and then Fos comes in and it's

0:28:29.200 --> 0:28:32.880
<v Speaker 2>just been a remarkable turnaround and just growing belief and

0:28:32.960 --> 0:28:35.280
<v Speaker 2>doing it at the moment without a couple of stars.

0:28:35.800 --> 0:28:39.320
<v Speaker 2>Like you know, I saw Clayton the other night like, yeah,

0:28:39.320 --> 0:28:41.000
<v Speaker 2>I saw him having the under him and mate, like

0:28:41.560 --> 0:28:43.280
<v Speaker 2>what a play he would make for a month's dreath.

0:28:43.320 --> 0:28:45.880
<v Speaker 2>He was borth playing the comp Yeah, even didn't play

0:28:45.880 --> 0:28:51.960
<v Speaker 2>the other night. And the sleeper, the sleeper is South's right.

0:28:52.440 --> 0:28:56.760
<v Speaker 2>Souths have the old bloke Wayne Bennett in charge. He

0:28:56.800 --> 0:28:58.800
<v Speaker 2>knows how to win a competition more than anyone. There

0:28:58.880 --> 0:29:01.240
<v Speaker 2>was a point through last year right that I reckon

0:29:01.280 --> 0:29:03.160
<v Speaker 2>Wayne sort of went, you know what, this is not

0:29:03.200 --> 0:29:06.120
<v Speaker 2>going to really, this is not panning out. I'm going

0:29:06.200 --> 0:29:07.760
<v Speaker 2>to take I want to take one for the team

0:29:07.800 --> 0:29:10.120
<v Speaker 2>here and Mate, there was a lot of players that

0:29:10.120 --> 0:29:12.320
<v Speaker 2>I reckon. He just rested and just said, don't worry

0:29:12.320 --> 0:29:15.600
<v Speaker 2>about this year. It's ride off. We'll build to next year.

0:29:15.920 --> 0:29:18.960
<v Speaker 2>And even with Latrell, like, he's been really patient bringing

0:29:19.040 --> 0:29:22.000
<v Speaker 2>Latrell back. And there's that calf twinge who knows he

0:29:22.080 --> 0:29:23.600
<v Speaker 2>might have been okay to play in a week or two.

0:29:23.640 --> 0:29:25.360
<v Speaker 2>He's going to hold him a little bit longer. His

0:29:25.440 --> 0:29:28.440
<v Speaker 2>side's going good, and he knows right, I'll get the

0:29:28.760 --> 0:29:31.200
<v Speaker 2>I'll get the side all going good, and then I'm

0:29:31.200 --> 0:29:34.480
<v Speaker 2>going to eject Latrell into that team for the run home.

0:29:34.920 --> 0:29:37.360
<v Speaker 2>So what I like about saus You got Wayne who's

0:29:37.360 --> 0:29:39.720
<v Speaker 2>done before, but what you've got your brand and come

0:29:39.760 --> 0:29:42.080
<v Speaker 2>back into the side. You see Brandon's about to hit

0:29:42.120 --> 0:29:44.960
<v Speaker 2>top form. Dave for Feeder looks really good. He's starting

0:29:44.960 --> 0:29:47.760
<v Speaker 2>to find his place there, Cody looks really good, Tall

0:29:47.800 --> 0:29:51.040
<v Speaker 2>Us Duncan, They're all just starting to form up.

0:29:51.600 --> 0:29:53.800
<v Speaker 1>So Coop and I on South particularly branded. I thought

0:29:53.800 --> 0:29:55.240
<v Speaker 1>Brandon that was his best game of the year for

0:29:55.280 --> 0:29:57.680
<v Speaker 1>Souse easily. The other came a couple of years mate,

0:29:57.720 --> 0:30:00.400
<v Speaker 1>and he's but he looks fit, and we said, it's

0:30:00.840 --> 0:30:03.400
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of the Brandon of Melbourne get roxbeed,

0:30:03.440 --> 0:30:05.640
<v Speaker 1>get rax speed and then just take off and skittle

0:30:05.640 --> 0:30:08.280
<v Speaker 1>bokes and when he runs you see the effect on

0:30:08.320 --> 0:30:10.760
<v Speaker 1>the line when he runs a b and see all goes,

0:30:10.840 --> 0:30:13.080
<v Speaker 1>oh shit, Brandon Smith runner. They all turn in. I

0:30:13.080 --> 0:30:14.600
<v Speaker 1>think you set you and aching up with a really

0:30:14.680 --> 0:30:15.800
<v Speaker 1>nice try on the left hand side.

0:30:15.840 --> 0:30:16.680
<v Speaker 4>It looks quick too.

0:30:17.400 --> 0:30:18.040
<v Speaker 1>He is quick.

0:30:18.160 --> 0:30:21.520
<v Speaker 2>He shouldn't fat, but he's powerful. He's wombats. You underestimate

0:30:21.600 --> 0:30:24.440
<v Speaker 2>how quick a wombat can move. You get near their burrs,

0:30:24.520 --> 0:30:28.280
<v Speaker 2>you watch them go the uh. But yeah, so the

0:30:28.360 --> 0:30:32.600
<v Speaker 2>other ones uh Penrith, Roosters, Wis, Dolphins, Manly and the

0:30:32.600 --> 0:30:35.719
<v Speaker 2>sleeper Souths six teams. Mate, it's going to be some

0:30:35.760 --> 0:30:39.440
<v Speaker 2>sort of final series. Nights have been fantastic at the moment,

0:30:39.440 --> 0:30:40.640
<v Speaker 2>they're still twelve months away.

0:30:40.680 --> 0:30:42.640
<v Speaker 1>For me, I've got I've got a sleep and then

0:30:42.640 --> 0:30:44.640
<v Speaker 1>I've got four who I think right now can win

0:30:44.680 --> 0:30:47.920
<v Speaker 1>the comp. And this comp's unbelievably weird to pick because

0:30:47.960 --> 0:30:49.960
<v Speaker 1>someone can come in two weeks and just randomly find

0:30:50.000 --> 0:30:51.960
<v Speaker 1>form and people can come out of form. But I

0:30:51.960 --> 0:30:54.680
<v Speaker 1>think Penrith, Dolphins, Roosters, Manly are my four that can

0:30:54.680 --> 0:30:56.760
<v Speaker 1>win the comp right now. And I'm with your sleepers

0:30:56.800 --> 0:30:58.120
<v Speaker 1>of Souse. If they can get a few of those

0:30:58.120 --> 0:31:00.520
<v Speaker 1>boys back like Campbell, Graham, Jack White and still Out,

0:31:00.760 --> 0:31:03.360
<v Speaker 1>They're to come back in that side Patrell Mitchell obviously,

0:31:03.600 --> 0:31:04.920
<v Speaker 1>and then a few of those boys like you said,

0:31:04.920 --> 0:31:08.000
<v Speaker 1>they're starting to find form. Injuries is their biggest weakness

0:31:08.280 --> 0:31:10.320
<v Speaker 1>at the moment. South, Yeah, but if they can come

0:31:10.320 --> 0:31:11.640
<v Speaker 1>back in and find a bit of the.

0:31:11.920 --> 0:31:14.520
<v Speaker 4>Left side mate when they take shape, yeah, can I

0:31:14.840 --> 0:31:19.720
<v Speaker 4>raise something really strange right now? The wagers have obviously

0:31:19.760 --> 0:31:21.920
<v Speaker 4>got some sort of inside that no one else knows.

0:31:21.920 --> 0:31:22.040
<v Speaker 1>Now.

0:31:22.080 --> 0:31:25.000
<v Speaker 4>I'm looking at the top eight right so if you look,

0:31:25.040 --> 0:31:26.560
<v Speaker 4>if you tell me right, if I told you guys

0:31:26.640 --> 0:31:28.440
<v Speaker 4>right now, if you had to put money on either

0:31:28.480 --> 0:31:30.240
<v Speaker 4>Melbourne or the Knights to win the comp, which one

0:31:30.280 --> 0:31:30.520
<v Speaker 4>are you.

0:31:30.440 --> 0:31:33.240
<v Speaker 2>Get to back? Oh?

0:31:33.600 --> 0:31:37.280
<v Speaker 1>Probably Knights win the comp this year. Probably Nights right now,

0:31:37.400 --> 0:31:38.640
<v Speaker 1>Melbourne I don't know.

0:31:38.640 --> 0:31:41.640
<v Speaker 2>Actually, Oh jeezuz, that is tough. Yeah.

0:31:42.000 --> 0:31:44.960
<v Speaker 4>Probably no Knights are tied second at the moment, right

0:31:45.520 --> 0:31:48.840
<v Speaker 4>eight points below them and Melbourne now Knights are Knights

0:31:48.840 --> 0:31:51.680
<v Speaker 4>are paying the most tied at second to win the

0:31:51.680 --> 0:31:54.720
<v Speaker 4>comp in that in that those people, those teams locked

0:31:54.720 --> 0:31:57.959
<v Speaker 4>in it that second position, they're paying twenty three bucks

0:31:58.440 --> 0:32:02.240
<v Speaker 4>right now, eight points belo them sitting at twelve is

0:32:02.280 --> 0:32:06.120
<v Speaker 4>the Storm paying thirty right, only only a few odds better.

0:32:06.480 --> 0:32:08.680
<v Speaker 4>But above them then you go the two teams above

0:32:08.720 --> 0:32:11.200
<v Speaker 4>them are paying in the eighties. So there's obviously there's

0:32:11.240 --> 0:32:13.680
<v Speaker 4>something there with Melbourne where the teams that are above them,

0:32:14.080 --> 0:32:16.000
<v Speaker 4>I think they're looking at Melbourne going there's still a

0:32:16.080 --> 0:32:16.720
<v Speaker 4>chance to win.

0:32:16.600 --> 0:32:17.560
<v Speaker 2>It because it's Melbourne.

0:32:17.520 --> 0:32:20.320
<v Speaker 1>It's one of those things big and like you see

0:32:20.320 --> 0:32:23.520
<v Speaker 1>their finals record and you get the vibe like they

0:32:23.560 --> 0:32:25.320
<v Speaker 1>got a few more they've got a couple buys coming up,

0:32:25.320 --> 0:32:27.040
<v Speaker 1>so that's where it's going to play in. But that

0:32:27.320 --> 0:32:29.680
<v Speaker 1>like it's a hard sort of to get from where

0:32:29.680 --> 0:32:31.520
<v Speaker 1>they are twelfth right now into that eight. There's a

0:32:31.520 --> 0:32:33.120
<v Speaker 1>few teams in there that have also got I think

0:32:33.200 --> 0:32:36.040
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys still have three more buys. Cowboys have got a

0:32:36.040 --> 0:32:37.840
<v Speaker 1>great runner, they've got a really good run home, So

0:32:37.840 --> 0:32:39.320
<v Speaker 1>they're going to strugg They're going to struggle to be

0:32:39.400 --> 0:32:41.240
<v Speaker 1>knocked out of that eight, so there's not a whole

0:32:41.280 --> 0:32:44.000
<v Speaker 1>heap of teams that the hardest thing for Melbourne is

0:32:44.000 --> 0:32:45.400
<v Speaker 1>to get into the eight. But if they get in

0:32:45.440 --> 0:32:48.720
<v Speaker 1>the finals, like in Terrified, they have a lot of

0:32:48.720 --> 0:32:51.080
<v Speaker 1>players who are just elevating final because if they do

0:32:51.160 --> 0:32:53.680
<v Speaker 1>make the finals, it means their best players are on fire.

0:32:53.880 --> 0:32:56.600
<v Speaker 2>In four. I just wanted to have a look on people.

0:32:56.600 --> 0:32:58.400
<v Speaker 2>I say, if you can have a pun of the competition,

0:32:59.000 --> 0:33:01.240
<v Speaker 2>just have a look at the team going into the

0:33:01.280 --> 0:33:04.000
<v Speaker 2>finals where they had that last buy. Newcastle are going

0:33:04.040 --> 0:33:05.680
<v Speaker 2>to be very, very hard to beat in the first

0:33:05.680 --> 0:33:07.440
<v Speaker 2>week of the finals because they've got the buy the

0:33:07.480 --> 0:33:09.720
<v Speaker 2>week before, they all get the freshen up. They're going

0:33:09.760 --> 0:33:11.080
<v Speaker 2>to hit the field. They're going to be nice and

0:33:11.120 --> 0:33:13.160
<v Speaker 2>fresh and rare and to go coming off a two

0:33:13.200 --> 0:33:17.880
<v Speaker 2>week preparation for finals. Football cowboys make cowboys get in there.

0:33:17.880 --> 0:33:19.400
<v Speaker 2>They're going to be a handful because as I said,

0:33:19.400 --> 0:33:20.880
<v Speaker 2>they've got a good run home and they still got

0:33:20.920 --> 0:33:25.280
<v Speaker 2>their buyers. So there's so many little factors coming into

0:33:25.320 --> 0:33:26.160
<v Speaker 2>this final series.

0:33:27.160 --> 0:33:29.880
<v Speaker 1>And then obviously Matthew, the TV deal that everyone keeps

0:33:29.920 --> 0:33:30.400
<v Speaker 1>reporting on.

0:33:30.440 --> 0:33:32.160
<v Speaker 2>Incredible, Mate, you are incredible.

0:33:32.520 --> 0:33:33.480
<v Speaker 1>You're across a lot of it.

0:33:33.520 --> 0:33:36.480
<v Speaker 2>Well, my understanding is it's going to be basically five

0:33:36.720 --> 0:33:40.440
<v Speaker 2>billion five So what Peter of landis was after Peter

0:33:40.480 --> 0:33:45.920
<v Speaker 2>of Landers was after over for full bing something he

0:33:46.040 --> 0:33:48.280
<v Speaker 2>was looking at around four point four b in. He's

0:33:48.280 --> 0:33:51.560
<v Speaker 2>got five b in. Basically that is the richest TV

0:33:51.680 --> 0:33:55.040
<v Speaker 2>deal in Australian sports history. His whole thing you go

0:33:55.200 --> 0:33:59.520
<v Speaker 2>understand about Peter of Alandi. Valandi's most driven man. He

0:33:59.680 --> 0:34:02.320
<v Speaker 2>took He took New South Wales Racing when it was

0:34:02.360 --> 0:34:07.239
<v Speaker 2>in crisis, the Equan influenza. He's built it up now

0:34:07.280 --> 0:34:10.280
<v Speaker 2>into this powerhouse. Even down south of Melbourne Racing, Carnival

0:34:10.320 --> 0:34:13.160
<v Speaker 2>Spring Carnival is untouchable. He's gone in and put a

0:34:13.200 --> 0:34:16.680
<v Speaker 2>massive dint it, huge dint with the Everest, Golden Eogle,

0:34:16.719 --> 0:34:19.080
<v Speaker 2>all those things. Like what he has done for New

0:34:19.120 --> 0:34:23.600
<v Speaker 2>South Wales Racing has been insane. Now he's coming to

0:34:23.600 --> 0:34:26.120
<v Speaker 2>the Rugby League and his big thing is with racing.

0:34:26.239 --> 0:34:29.200
<v Speaker 2>He goes, I'm going to get like Melbourne, Melbourne Racing,

0:34:29.320 --> 0:34:31.640
<v Speaker 2>Victoria Racing used to take the piss out of him

0:34:31.719 --> 0:34:34.080
<v Speaker 2>quite a bit, and like because he came from I

0:34:34.120 --> 0:34:36.160
<v Speaker 2>think it was greyhounds into trots and that they're like

0:34:36.280 --> 0:34:38.560
<v Speaker 2>I made this blog and he went, I'm going to

0:34:38.680 --> 0:34:40.319
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to give it to these places, and he

0:34:40.360 --> 0:34:42.360
<v Speaker 2>has and he's done the same with the AFL. His

0:34:42.440 --> 0:34:45.160
<v Speaker 2>whole thing was I'm going to beat the AFL TV

0:34:45.280 --> 0:34:49.960
<v Speaker 2>deal and he's gone and he's done it. Now. So

0:34:50.480 --> 0:34:53.879
<v Speaker 2>five BM seven years, Now, what does this mean? My understanding?

0:34:54.440 --> 0:34:57.319
<v Speaker 2>At the moment, the CAP's around eleven point nine, they're

0:34:57.360 --> 0:35:00.000
<v Speaker 2>saying the cap will go up, probably could hit a

0:35:00.000 --> 0:35:03.440
<v Speaker 2>about eighteen million. The seller cap, aid of means so

0:35:03.480 --> 0:35:06.399
<v Speaker 2>you so that means so if the salary cap goes up,

0:35:06.600 --> 0:35:09.120
<v Speaker 2>what's that? Is that sort of about fifty or sixty percent?

0:35:09.920 --> 0:35:10.359
<v Speaker 4>That all?

0:35:10.560 --> 0:35:13.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what's what's half of five point five? Yeah, it's

0:35:13.600 --> 0:35:14.680
<v Speaker 1>about another fifty percent.

0:35:15.200 --> 0:35:17.200
<v Speaker 2>So if it goes if it goes up, say fifty percent,

0:35:17.520 --> 0:35:20.000
<v Speaker 2>So all of a sudden, Nathan Cleary, if he's on

0:35:20.000 --> 0:35:22.399
<v Speaker 2>one point five million dollars, put another fifty percent, he's

0:35:22.400 --> 0:35:24.800
<v Speaker 2>on two point two. Wow. So that's the difference is

0:35:24.840 --> 0:35:26.600
<v Speaker 2>going to make to the game and the players. So

0:35:26.680 --> 0:35:30.040
<v Speaker 2>what does that do? What that does is that stops

0:35:30.080 --> 0:35:33.480
<v Speaker 2>the next Joseph Suli going to rugby union and in turn,

0:35:33.680 --> 0:35:35.279
<v Speaker 2>what that what it's going to do. It's going to

0:35:35.280 --> 0:35:38.440
<v Speaker 2>give rugby league clubs an opportunity to even sign European

0:35:38.520 --> 0:35:41.279
<v Speaker 2>rugby players to get them to this competition. The flow

0:35:41.320 --> 0:35:42.520
<v Speaker 2>and effect is going to be enormous.

0:35:43.000 --> 0:35:44.720
<v Speaker 4>What I was going to say to you too, Matthew,

0:35:44.719 --> 0:35:47.520
<v Speaker 4>because you don't see it much, is people talk about,

0:35:47.600 --> 0:35:49.520
<v Speaker 4>you know, this rights to how it benefits clubs and

0:35:49.800 --> 0:35:53.080
<v Speaker 4>players and salary caps and the organization itself and then

0:35:53.080 --> 0:35:56.640
<v Speaker 4>obviously the broadcasters. But there's like, I'm not sure if

0:35:56.800 --> 0:35:58.000
<v Speaker 4>you've got a few off your off the top of

0:35:58.040 --> 0:36:00.280
<v Speaker 4>your head, I've got a couple here that like actually

0:36:00.280 --> 0:36:02.799
<v Speaker 4>affect the fans in a positive way because obviously the

0:36:02.840 --> 0:36:06.120
<v Speaker 4>fans listen to the TV rights deal from their perspective,

0:36:06.160 --> 0:36:09.359
<v Speaker 4>they're going, that's great, but how is it a fed Yeah,

0:36:09.360 --> 0:36:10.440
<v Speaker 4>you know what I mean? And I was looking at

0:36:10.480 --> 0:36:13.480
<v Speaker 4>just before and some of the articles coming out now

0:36:13.520 --> 0:36:15.520
<v Speaker 4>are starting to say, so what what could happen? How

0:36:15.520 --> 0:36:18.000
<v Speaker 4>it's going to benefit the fans is obviously the broadcast

0:36:18.080 --> 0:36:19.720
<v Speaker 4>are going to be better, there's going to be more coverage,

0:36:19.719 --> 0:36:22.799
<v Speaker 4>more prime time TV and rugby league, but a big

0:36:22.840 --> 0:36:25.120
<v Speaker 4>one too, like it could affect game day experience a

0:36:25.160 --> 0:36:27.520
<v Speaker 4>lot for a lot of a lot of the lot

0:36:27.520 --> 0:36:30.200
<v Speaker 4>of the fans too, Like we we could see not

0:36:30.239 --> 0:36:32.880
<v Speaker 4>only like better deals or cheaper prices for tickets, but

0:36:32.920 --> 0:36:35.719
<v Speaker 4>also better Dame Day experiences from you know, it could

0:36:35.719 --> 0:36:39.480
<v Speaker 4>be from food to facilities, entertainment.

0:36:39.520 --> 0:36:41.680
<v Speaker 2>They're talking about National un twenty ones competition.

0:36:41.800 --> 0:36:44.239
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, well that's the other one too. There's another

0:36:44.239 --> 0:36:47.200
<v Speaker 4>one who's saying grassroots benefits and that's the one that

0:36:47.600 --> 0:36:49.799
<v Speaker 4>you know, with having this deal if we do beat

0:36:49.920 --> 0:36:52.520
<v Speaker 4>the a f L. The AFL have done so well

0:36:52.520 --> 0:36:55.480
<v Speaker 4>with their junior grassroots systems, like the way they budget there,

0:36:55.880 --> 0:36:59.239
<v Speaker 4>the facility, the resources out to junior clubs. Hopefully we'll see,

0:36:59.280 --> 0:37:02.040
<v Speaker 4>you know, rugby league, the NRL itself will start really

0:37:02.080 --> 0:37:02.680
<v Speaker 4>dipping into that.

0:37:03.040 --> 0:37:06.759
<v Speaker 1>Saw how how good? Like six I can't remember how

0:37:06.800 --> 0:37:09.840
<v Speaker 1>long Fox League has been around for, but like seven

0:37:09.880 --> 0:37:11.560
<v Speaker 1>years ago. You just wait until the foot he was

0:37:11.560 --> 0:37:14.719
<v Speaker 1>on to watch or have any football content. There's there's

0:37:14.760 --> 0:37:17.360
<v Speaker 1>rugby league content twenty four to seven now, h Like definitely,

0:37:17.400 --> 0:37:20.440
<v Speaker 1>you know it's also and you see end shout out

0:37:20.440 --> 0:37:23.040
<v Speaker 1>to the fans because without the fans watching, engaging in it,

0:37:23.239 --> 0:37:25.919
<v Speaker 1>you know, listen to dribblers like us on this podcast. Yep,

0:37:26.160 --> 0:37:28.600
<v Speaker 1>the game doesn't grow and be able to have that

0:37:28.640 --> 0:37:30.200
<v Speaker 1>sort of billion dollar deal.

0:37:30.239 --> 0:37:33.000
<v Speaker 2>So shout out no doubt, mate, no doubt. Well that's

0:37:33.160 --> 0:37:35.319
<v Speaker 2>the figures I've got there at adm B. The when

0:37:35.360 --> 0:37:37.759
<v Speaker 2>I've come to Aden being listen to people that was

0:37:37.800 --> 0:37:41.319
<v Speaker 2>in the paper. They're talking sorry, Aden, me and selar Cap.

0:37:41.360 --> 0:37:43.919
<v Speaker 2>There was reports in the paper that could be twenty million.

0:37:44.160 --> 0:37:47.160
<v Speaker 2>My understanding is that's a little high. I've heard other

0:37:47.160 --> 0:37:49.239
<v Speaker 2>people say there's going to be more like sixteen and

0:37:49.239 --> 0:37:52.000
<v Speaker 2>a half million, and I've heard now that's slightly low.

0:37:52.200 --> 0:37:54.080
<v Speaker 2>I've come to Ad and me and on that okay,

0:37:54.120 --> 0:37:56.279
<v Speaker 2>and I believe it is. I'm just creating from I

0:37:56.360 --> 0:37:58.640
<v Speaker 2>believe sellar Cap at the moment is eleven point nine.

0:37:58.760 --> 0:37:58.960
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:37:59.080 --> 0:38:01.200
<v Speaker 2>Now what this mean? You've got an extra game next

0:38:01.280 --> 0:38:03.920
<v Speaker 2>year with Perth coming in there minudstanding, there won't be

0:38:03.920 --> 0:38:06.440
<v Speaker 2>Monday on football, it'll be an extra same on a Sunday.

0:38:06.480 --> 0:38:08.400
<v Speaker 2>It'll be something. You'll have a Sunday night game, so

0:38:08.760 --> 0:38:10.680
<v Speaker 2>the four o'clock game, then you'll have a six o'clock claim.

0:38:10.719 --> 0:38:12.160
<v Speaker 1>What happens to your show later?

0:38:12.400 --> 0:38:14.839
<v Speaker 2>Maybe I don't be later. God. The next thing they're

0:38:14.840 --> 0:38:16.960
<v Speaker 2>looking at with the money in the game is the

0:38:16.960 --> 0:38:20.000
<v Speaker 2>global round they're talking about having. You know, you've got

0:38:20.160 --> 0:38:22.920
<v Speaker 2>the Vegas experience, having one in London and another city

0:38:23.239 --> 0:38:25.520
<v Speaker 2>and another one which is really really big that they're

0:38:25.520 --> 0:38:28.160
<v Speaker 2>looking at. It's getting more and more likely is buying

0:38:28.360 --> 0:38:31.600
<v Speaker 2>the UK Super League, which is enormous. Now it's going

0:38:31.600 --> 0:38:33.759
<v Speaker 2>to be very interesting what they do if they buy that.

0:38:34.080 --> 0:38:37.120
<v Speaker 2>At the moment, I believe over there in England it's

0:38:37.120 --> 0:38:39.960
<v Speaker 2>split a little bit. I think the the ruling parties

0:38:39.960 --> 0:38:43.120
<v Speaker 2>are a little bit they't want to lose control. But

0:38:43.640 --> 0:38:45.839
<v Speaker 2>apparently all the strong clubs and the power breakers they're

0:38:45.840 --> 0:38:49.080
<v Speaker 2>going to mate. This has to happen to save our competition.

0:38:49.280 --> 0:38:51.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, someone someone said to me in the next sort

0:38:51.360 --> 0:38:52.200
<v Speaker 1>of month, they're looking at it.

0:38:52.360 --> 0:38:55.360
<v Speaker 2>The deal done so that now what may happen here people,

0:38:55.400 --> 0:38:57.799
<v Speaker 2>you're going to understand it for our younger listeners. Here

0:38:58.520 --> 0:39:02.880
<v Speaker 2>is what used to happen. Was they used to it

0:39:03.040 --> 0:39:05.440
<v Speaker 2>used to be played. The rugby League was traditionally always

0:39:05.480 --> 0:39:08.280
<v Speaker 2>played for one hundred years in the winter in England.

0:39:08.600 --> 0:39:11.719
<v Speaker 2>Now we play winter. They played winter. So what they

0:39:11.760 --> 0:39:14.160
<v Speaker 2>were allow to do is the best English players at

0:39:14.200 --> 0:39:16.200
<v Speaker 2>the end of their season would come and play for

0:39:16.239 --> 0:39:19.240
<v Speaker 2>about three months in Australia, the very best Australian players,

0:39:19.360 --> 0:39:21.400
<v Speaker 2>vice versa. We'll go over and do stints over there.

0:39:21.560 --> 0:39:24.040
<v Speaker 2>Now these days, with professionalism and loads and all that

0:39:24.080 --> 0:39:26.359
<v Speaker 2>sort of stuff, you won't I don't think you'll see

0:39:26.400 --> 0:39:28.640
<v Speaker 2>players come over for that long a stretch. But what

0:39:28.719 --> 0:39:30.719
<v Speaker 2>you can actually start to do, and I just think

0:39:30.719 --> 0:39:35.120
<v Speaker 2>this is really exciting, is that they if they decide

0:39:35.200 --> 0:39:37.560
<v Speaker 2>the NRL to go, you know what, let's put it

0:39:37.600 --> 0:39:39.719
<v Speaker 2>back to a winter competition. There'll be a little bit

0:39:39.760 --> 0:39:44.600
<v Speaker 2>of pushback, but that will allow a crossover of codes

0:39:44.640 --> 0:39:48.080
<v Speaker 2>more instance, will be like this, like Joey did when

0:39:48.160 --> 0:39:50.000
<v Speaker 2>Joey was over here in the and the Nice got

0:39:50.040 --> 0:39:52.080
<v Speaker 2>knocked out of the league. I think I've got about

0:39:52.080 --> 0:39:54.359
<v Speaker 2>two thousand and five they got knocked out. He went

0:39:54.400 --> 0:39:56.600
<v Speaker 2>over and did a four game stint with Warrington on

0:39:56.640 --> 0:39:58.360
<v Speaker 2>the eve of the finals. I mean, it could be

0:39:58.400 --> 0:40:01.440
<v Speaker 2>a situation where they go right for each club, you've

0:40:01.440 --> 0:40:03.560
<v Speaker 2>got the top thirty squad. Then you've got two spare

0:40:03.600 --> 0:40:06.839
<v Speaker 2>spots left, and you go right the finals coming up.

0:40:06.960 --> 0:40:09.919
<v Speaker 2>Suddenly you know, the greatest English player in the world mate,

0:40:10.000 --> 0:40:11.879
<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden he gets banged and they buy

0:40:11.960 --> 0:40:14.319
<v Speaker 2>him and he comes over and he joins a week

0:40:14.360 --> 0:40:17.640
<v Speaker 2>out from the finals, that would just be enormous and

0:40:17.719 --> 0:40:21.360
<v Speaker 2>vice versa. It just adds a whole another demands.

0:40:21.400 --> 0:40:23.160
<v Speaker 1>Imagine what that to do for the profile for some

0:40:23.200 --> 0:40:25.520
<v Speaker 1>of the English, like in terms of they come out

0:40:25.560 --> 0:40:27.719
<v Speaker 1>here to kill it in an NURL final series gets me,

0:40:27.719 --> 0:40:29.640
<v Speaker 1>you might get a Clive Churchill and that way when

0:40:29.640 --> 0:40:31.279
<v Speaker 1>he goes back to the English in a winter camp

0:40:31.400 --> 0:40:34.040
<v Speaker 1>when it's on a different schedule, all the NFL fans

0:40:34.000 --> 0:40:35.640
<v Speaker 1>are going, I want to watch you know so and so,

0:40:35.800 --> 0:40:38.480
<v Speaker 1>and they watch the game. Like for Arabbia League supporters

0:40:38.600 --> 0:40:41.359
<v Speaker 1>or for anyone like to have a game like that

0:40:41.360 --> 0:40:43.800
<v Speaker 1>that could be year round where you're interested as interested

0:40:43.840 --> 0:40:47.200
<v Speaker 1>in both comps. It would be great entertain agree.

0:40:47.040 --> 0:40:49.000
<v Speaker 4>Because it needs to bridge the gap. Like I can't

0:40:49.000 --> 0:40:51.920
<v Speaker 4>remember last time I watched like a live game of

0:40:51.960 --> 0:40:52.600
<v Speaker 4>the Super League.

0:40:52.640 --> 0:40:55.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well made it. Well, I'll give you an example

0:40:55.520 --> 0:40:58.000
<v Speaker 2>of what you're just talking about there, boys Ellery Hanley,

0:40:58.000 --> 0:40:59.919
<v Speaker 2>who I talk about is my favorite player of all time.

0:41:00.320 --> 0:41:03.759
<v Speaker 2>Ellary O was a Balmaine Tiger's fan and he was

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<v Speaker 2>like a Wigan player but in Australia he was like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh yeah, that Blake who plays ellery handling, and they

0:41:09.960 --> 0:41:12.719
<v Speaker 2>signed him and he arrived halfway through the season. Made

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<v Speaker 2>he took him right through the Grand Final. They went

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<v Speaker 2>on about a nine to ten game winning streak, got

0:41:17.480 --> 0:41:19.600
<v Speaker 2>to the Grand finally knocked out on the day. But

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<v Speaker 2>then when he so after that the end of that season,

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<v Speaker 2>he got awarded the Golden Boot, the greatest player in

0:41:24.640 --> 0:41:26.960
<v Speaker 2>the world. Goes back to England, plays again, he gets

0:41:27.000 --> 0:41:29.440
<v Speaker 2>brought out, doesn't go to Balmain the next year because

0:41:29.600 --> 0:41:34.319
<v Speaker 2>he's out, he's out priced. Then a bonaire building guy

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<v Speaker 2>called Jim Jim Masterson, he was he owned Western Sobers

0:41:38.880 --> 0:41:40.799
<v Speaker 2>at that point, so he brought him to West. To

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<v Speaker 2>give you a difference in the profile in twelve months

0:41:44.040 --> 0:41:46.920
<v Speaker 2>for Ellary, when he went to West to play his

0:41:47.000 --> 0:41:49.320
<v Speaker 2>first game, they had to have a team of security

0:41:49.320 --> 0:41:50.920
<v Speaker 2>guards around him when they were doing the warm up.

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<v Speaker 2>Well that's like, that's how big a profile that did

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<v Speaker 2>for that player. So then when he went back to England,

0:41:58.880 --> 0:42:02.160
<v Speaker 2>like the whole just rises. And that's what we can do,

0:42:02.239 --> 0:42:04.520
<v Speaker 2>like you both competitions and all the teams can have

0:42:04.520 --> 0:42:07.520
<v Speaker 2>two spare spots for a Tom Travoyevitch when the seasons

0:42:07.520 --> 0:42:09.320
<v Speaker 2>finished to go up and join some Helen's for the

0:42:09.400 --> 0:42:12.240
<v Speaker 2>end of the year. It's just insane and the players

0:42:12.239 --> 0:42:14.520
<v Speaker 2>would love it, like players, players would love.

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<v Speaker 1>It to get over there and you get back to

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<v Speaker 1>preseason later.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm going to make it. Here's my hot take.

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<v Speaker 1>Do it. Take your shirt off, just tap.

0:42:24.560 --> 0:42:27.600
<v Speaker 4>The nipple rings out Pea of Andy's take your shirt off.

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<v Speaker 2>Peter Andys is the greatest sports administrator in Australia's history.

0:42:31.440 --> 0:42:34.080
<v Speaker 2>There you go, now, AFL people and that will people

0:42:34.120 --> 0:42:35.759
<v Speaker 2>will go, hang on, what about this? What about that?

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<v Speaker 2>I just want you to consider where rugby league was

0:42:37.840 --> 0:42:40.560
<v Speaker 2>when he took over. The game was broke, The game

0:42:40.680 --> 0:42:45.480
<v Speaker 2>was broke. And and what he has done, the Vegas stuff,

0:42:45.880 --> 0:42:49.000
<v Speaker 2>you know how it's grown, the money the game has now,

0:42:49.040 --> 0:42:51.640
<v Speaker 2>the assets of the game has got, the magic ground,

0:42:51.760 --> 0:42:54.000
<v Speaker 2>all those things that he has done for the game

0:42:54.120 --> 0:42:56.960
<v Speaker 2>is just insane and we should never lose sight of that,

0:42:57.280 --> 0:43:02.239
<v Speaker 2>because what happens with Australia sometimes truly oppositional in the

0:43:02.239 --> 0:43:04.120
<v Speaker 2>fact that someone says, mate, this guy is the best.

0:43:04.080 --> 0:43:06.520
<v Speaker 2>People going no, no, he's not. Like Bob Hawk kop

0:43:07.120 --> 0:43:10.080
<v Speaker 2>Jack was the greatest Prime minister in Australian history, Like

0:43:10.320 --> 0:43:14.279
<v Speaker 2>Charisma he represented what it was to be Australian. But

0:43:14.360 --> 0:43:16.960
<v Speaker 2>I remember at the end of his Prime ministership that'd go,

0:43:17.760 --> 0:43:20.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, grand final day, welcome to the microphone, the

0:43:20.920 --> 0:43:24.080
<v Speaker 2>Prime Minister Australia, Bob Hawk and everyone would boo, you

0:43:24.120 --> 0:43:27.600
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean. Hard to believe now, but it happened.

0:43:27.680 --> 0:43:30.240
<v Speaker 2>That's what that's what we do, is Ossie to an extent.

0:43:30.920 --> 0:43:33.759
<v Speaker 2>Never do that, ped b Andes, because what he has

0:43:33.800 --> 0:43:35.879
<v Speaker 2>done for this game is just remarkable.

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<v Speaker 1>As the wise Man Batman, I think it wasn't Batman,

0:43:39.239 --> 0:43:41.719
<v Speaker 1>it was the Commissioner. Gordon said you either die a

0:43:41.840 --> 0:43:44.640
<v Speaker 1>hero or you live long enough to see yourself become

0:43:44.680 --> 0:43:47.040
<v Speaker 1>a villain. And that's what we as Australians can do.

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<v Speaker 1>You can quote me on that.

0:43:48.600 --> 0:43:50.120
<v Speaker 2>That's I love that quote.

0:43:50.160 --> 0:43:52.600
<v Speaker 1>You couldn't quote me on that, Gary old I will

0:43:53.640 --> 0:43:54.240
<v Speaker 1>Gary Oldman.

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<v Speaker 2>What an actor.

0:43:55.120 --> 0:43:56.880
<v Speaker 1>He is, very talented, right.

0:43:56.880 --> 0:43:59.600
<v Speaker 2>I never knew he was English, you know, until later on.

0:44:00.080 --> 0:44:04.040
<v Speaker 2>And what he's rolling playing Winston Churchill was remarkable.

0:44:04.200 --> 0:44:04.840
<v Speaker 1>He's good talent.

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<v Speaker 4>Thurm and Copper did he back in the nineties, I think,

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<v Speaker 4>oh way, yeah, I think there's a bit of an

0:44:09.640 --> 0:44:10.439
<v Speaker 4>age gup there too.

0:44:10.640 --> 0:44:11.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was going to say it was one of

0:44:12.040 --> 0:44:13.960
<v Speaker 2>these I remember Lyle love it. It was a country singing.

0:44:14.040 --> 0:44:16.120
<v Speaker 2>He dated Julie Roberts.

0:44:16.920 --> 0:44:19.359
<v Speaker 1>Really, Jacob, I thought that was a strange match.

0:44:20.320 --> 0:44:22.520
<v Speaker 4>You know, our man Angeline and Jolie.

0:44:22.600 --> 0:44:23.799
<v Speaker 1>Billy Boy Thorton's.

0:44:25.040 --> 0:44:27.319
<v Speaker 4>That one. Watching the footage from the nineties is.

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<v Speaker 2>So so you're telling me I'm a chair.

0:44:29.520 --> 0:44:31.600
<v Speaker 1>They're like passion on the red carpet and that were

0:44:31.680 --> 0:44:33.160
<v Speaker 1>very publicly affectionate, had.

0:44:33.120 --> 0:44:35.040
<v Speaker 4>Vials of each other's blood on a necklace.

0:44:35.120 --> 0:44:38.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's right. And Johnny Depp and Amber heard just

0:44:38.320 --> 0:44:40.759
<v Speaker 2>never work old pistol and booo.

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<v Speaker 1>All right people, see's next week.