WEBVTT - A Bit of Magic 0:00:08.000 --> 0:00:11.280 Welcome to the Daily Telegraph NROL podcast. It's full of 0:00:11.320 --> 0:00:14.000 magic this week and to share the love, I've got 0:00:14.000 --> 0:00:17.800 Bretton Reid and David, Ricky Harley fellas well Mickey Terry 0:00:17.840 --> 0:00:21.200 Onis very well, ready, goody, good week. 0:00:21.400 --> 0:00:23.000 Has been a big week. What's going on? 0:00:23.560 --> 0:00:24.160 News around on? 0:00:24.239 --> 0:00:25.239 It's always a big week in. 0:00:25.239 --> 0:00:26.200 The n W. 0:00:26.440 --> 0:00:28.560 It's a big week. 0:00:29.400 --> 0:00:31.240 That means it's not always a busy week in the NROL. 0:00:31.320 --> 0:00:33.319 Then okay, you with me. 0:00:33.320 --> 0:00:38.600 It's a busy week in anticipatient. Well, let's start with 0:00:39.240 --> 0:00:39.519 there's a. 0:00:39.520 --> 0:00:41.720 Bit of coaching news in and around the game. Let's 0:00:41.720 --> 0:00:44.879 start with your story, Dave, that you brought on Tuesday 0:00:45.000 --> 0:00:48.200 night that you broke regarding Ricky Stewart and his new 0:00:48.240 --> 0:00:53.560 contract details any surprise by not so much that Ricky 0:00:53.600 --> 0:00:55.959 is extended, but the length of of that deal. Look, 0:00:56.040 --> 0:00:58.840 I've been making inquiries with the Raiders probably. 0:00:59.600 --> 0:01:02.400 Probably four weeks ago, four to five weeks ago, and 0:01:02.560 --> 0:01:04.760 I know I just started making the inquiries on the 0:01:04.760 --> 0:01:06.760 basis if I just like where the Raiders have been 0:01:06.760 --> 0:01:10.000 heading this year, I don't think you could. I don't 0:01:10.040 --> 0:01:13.120 think many other teams have been in this situation where 0:01:13.120 --> 0:01:16.759 they're sitting inside the top eight with such a rookie spine. 0:01:16.920 --> 0:01:19.600 And I read that police guys a few weeks ago 0:01:19.680 --> 0:01:24.880 now that they had their youngest, most inexperienced one six 0:01:24.959 --> 0:01:28.520 and seven in their entire history against the Sharks. It 0:01:28.680 --> 0:01:32.360 was Chevy Shield at fullback, Ko Works at half back 0:01:32.880 --> 0:01:35.240 and Ethan Strange at five eighth. 0:01:34.600 --> 0:01:37.160 And yeah, they got bad that day. 0:01:37.200 --> 0:01:40.800 But what I'm saying is they're in this development phase 0:01:40.840 --> 0:01:45.160 of you know, basically trying to get three years ahead 0:01:45.160 --> 0:01:48.800 of other clubs by blooding these players earlier than what 0:01:48.880 --> 0:01:52.360 they're expected anyway, So look, I just like what they 0:01:52.360 --> 0:01:55.760 were doing, and it led to the point where I 0:01:55.880 --> 0:01:57.880 got a response that yes, indeed they were looking to 0:01:58.200 --> 0:02:03.680 extend Ricky, which which unfolded. He was on contract to 0:02:03.720 --> 0:02:05.320 the end of twenty five and they pushed him out 0:02:05.320 --> 0:02:06.640 through until twenty twenty nine. 0:02:07.280 --> 0:02:09.880 Ready any suit, any surprise by. 0:02:11.360 --> 0:02:13.560 Maybe with the length of the deal. It's a long 0:02:13.600 --> 0:02:16.959 it's a long extension. But you know, we all love Ricky. 0:02:17.160 --> 0:02:19.200 He's a great character to having the game right. I mean, 0:02:19.360 --> 0:02:22.840 rugby league's better when ri Ricky's involved. I think he's 0:02:22.840 --> 0:02:24.639 done a good job down there and day it's right 0:02:24.680 --> 0:02:28.680 I mean they've committed to go with youth and keeping 0:02:28.760 --> 0:02:33.320 Ricky long term allows that Ricky to bring that youth 0:02:33.360 --> 0:02:35.120 through and it shows a bit of faith and then 0:02:35.240 --> 0:02:37.600 he doesn't need to get immediate results. He can he 0:02:37.639 --> 0:02:41.160 can take his time with his kids, grow with them. 0:02:41.280 --> 0:02:45.400 And you know, I think that club, it's not like 0:02:45.440 --> 0:02:49.519 your average club don't talk. You know, the fans haven't 0:02:49.520 --> 0:02:52.080 made happy and you're talking other people. But it's a 0:02:52.160 --> 0:02:54.480 unique club and he is a unique coach for that club. Well, 0:02:54.480 --> 0:02:57.400 there's not many coach in the game who are more 0:02:57.440 --> 0:02:59.560 suited to a footy club that a foot club than 0:02:59.639 --> 0:03:04.400 Ricky is. The camera is camera, So you know, I 0:03:04.440 --> 0:03:05.840 think that I. 0:03:05.880 --> 0:03:09.840 Don't think fans understand and just hold on, Yes, I 0:03:09.880 --> 0:03:10.840 don't patient. 0:03:11.360 --> 0:03:13.800 I don't think fans appreciate the. 0:03:15.639 --> 0:03:20.080 Struggle the challenges that camera have to recruit talent and 0:03:20.200 --> 0:03:22.680 retain talent and you really need. 0:03:22.600 --> 0:03:24.480 To figure head coach there. You can't. 0:03:25.160 --> 0:03:28.160 You can't have anyone that's our first time you needed 0:03:28.160 --> 0:03:30.880 someone with profile. Let it be known that Ricky Stewart 0:03:31.040 --> 0:03:33.400 can pick up the phone to Peter Valandi's He picks 0:03:33.480 --> 0:03:36.320 up the phone to end to abdou He has connections 0:03:36.320 --> 0:03:38.680 throughout the game, and that comes through his experience of 0:03:38.760 --> 0:03:40.240 being involved in the game. 0:03:40.240 --> 0:03:41.880 At the highest level for so long. 0:03:42.280 --> 0:03:45.120 And I think that's paramount to the success of the Raiders. 0:03:45.720 --> 0:03:47.160 Correct me if I'm wrong. I think they've made the 0:03:47.200 --> 0:03:49.560 finals the last four out of the last five years. 0:03:50.320 --> 0:03:52.520 OK. I don't know, it sounds right. 0:03:52.600 --> 0:03:57.760 I don't think you know, looking at pass marks, I 0:03:57.760 --> 0:04:00.680 don't have premierships in camp. Yes, everyone wants a premiership, 0:04:00.720 --> 0:04:02.160 but I don't have premierships in camera. 0:04:04.400 --> 0:04:06.840 Whether it's deemed a successful failure. 0:04:07.920 --> 0:04:10.160 Really quickly. For the reason you'll be very quiet, Can 0:04:10.200 --> 0:04:11.840 I tell the listeners. 0:04:11.720 --> 0:04:17.680 I'm trying to because YouTube some comments towards the top suggesting. 0:04:17.400 --> 0:04:20.159 Sort of top people. So he's taking that to heart. 0:04:20.080 --> 0:04:21.160 Taking them back seace. 0:04:23.480 --> 0:04:25.919 Today when everyone else is stored. So you can. 0:04:26.839 --> 0:04:29.960 Sorry. I'm surprised by the length of it twenty nine. 0:04:30.120 --> 0:04:34.800 I think was there a necessity to draw him out 0:04:34.800 --> 0:04:35.960 that long? I don't know. 0:04:36.279 --> 0:04:40.640 Like stability, I think he still Ricky is so comfortable 0:04:40.640 --> 0:04:42.400 in his own skin, and we've seen the way he's 0:04:42.400 --> 0:04:45.960 coached this year that he's he hasn't been a guy 0:04:46.080 --> 0:04:48.359 that's fearful of his job and he's going to blood 0:04:48.360 --> 0:04:51.600 those youngsters and he's done an exceptional job this year. 0:04:51.600 --> 0:04:53.279 I hadn't I said on him, I had a bottom 0:04:53.279 --> 0:04:53.880 four this year. 0:04:54.400 --> 0:04:59.360 Right, they have done finish, but I don't think at 0:04:59.360 --> 0:05:01.200 the halfway will We're not at the halfway well almost 0:05:01.200 --> 0:05:02.080 at the halfway point. 0:05:02.440 --> 0:05:05.880 They're one of these success stories of the season so far. 0:05:05.920 --> 0:05:08.960 Can but they've been outstanding in not only you know, 0:05:09.000 --> 0:05:10.800 they've had to deal with some injuries as well. They 0:05:10.800 --> 0:05:12.520 finally got Jordan up in a back, so I think 0:05:12.520 --> 0:05:15.159 the coaching this year has been outstanding. I am surprised 0:05:15.440 --> 0:05:16.880 by the length of the deal. I just didn't know. 0:05:17.080 --> 0:05:18.720 I don't think you needed to do that. 0:05:18.880 --> 0:05:21.480 I think the length of the deal is timed with 0:05:21.600 --> 0:05:25.640 the current rookies that are being bloody through the team, 0:05:25.920 --> 0:05:28.920 and they are Ethan's strange through until twenty eight. I'm 0:05:28.960 --> 0:05:34.040 pretty sure it gives stability for these younger players. And 0:05:34.120 --> 0:05:38.240 also when you're trying to recruit, it makes it so 0:05:38.320 --> 0:05:41.400 much easier when you can tell the player you're trying 0:05:41.400 --> 0:05:42.800 to chase to who the coach is for the next 0:05:42.839 --> 0:05:45.039 three to four years and this is my plan for you, 0:05:45.120 --> 0:05:46.600 and this is what I believe you're going to be 0:05:46.640 --> 0:05:50.280 able to do when coaches aren't contracted beyond the next 0:05:50.600 --> 0:05:53.839 one to two years, it's difficult for a player outside 0:05:53.880 --> 0:05:57.120 to commit to that football club knowing that now she 0:05:57.400 --> 0:06:00.560 is on getting promised everything at the moment, coach might 0:06:00.600 --> 0:06:03.680 not be here in two years time. So I think 0:06:03.680 --> 0:06:06.640 it's about stability. And one of the interesting points boys, 0:06:06.640 --> 0:06:10.920 I haven't raised this before, is that a rival club 0:06:10.920 --> 0:06:12.920 I was talking to rival club about five weeks ago, 0:06:12.960 --> 0:06:15.359 and Ricky walked into a press conference and just gone 0:06:16.040 --> 0:06:19.400 absolutely on the defense, which he does for his team. 0:06:19.880 --> 0:06:24.640 It's like he puts a barrier between himself and the 0:06:24.680 --> 0:06:26.840 rest of the world and the team behind him. And 0:06:27.400 --> 0:06:29.520 a rival club said, you know what, if we were 0:06:29.560 --> 0:06:33.280 to move on our coach, the first person would chase. 0:06:33.120 --> 0:06:34.640 Is Ricky Stewart. And I. 0:06:36.200 --> 0:06:39.960 Think that can't be understated about how he's also perceived 0:06:40.000 --> 0:06:43.440 within the game, about how he creates that win it 0:06:43.440 --> 0:06:45.120 all costs environment for the Raiders. 0:06:45.480 --> 0:06:49.160 As ready said, it's good theater that Ricky remains press conferences, 0:06:49.400 --> 0:06:53.040 always entertaining on the sidelines. To me, yeah, speaking of 0:06:53.080 --> 0:06:55.320 the entertainment. A last a minute at the moment with 0:06:55.360 --> 0:06:59.239 Wayne Bennett He's been in fine form with his press 0:06:59.240 --> 0:07:04.200 conferences at the moment. Suggestions yesterday that he officially committed 0:07:04.240 --> 0:07:07.800 to South Sydney, both parties have sort of said that's 0:07:07.839 --> 0:07:10.600 not the case. But just being so boring me. I 0:07:10.640 --> 0:07:13.120 think if we sit down this time next week we 0:07:13.120 --> 0:07:17.080 all expect Wayne Benett. I'm seriously, it's boring. What's boring 0:07:17.120 --> 0:07:21.200 about what he is doing? One of the what's what's 0:07:21.200 --> 0:07:24.920 the hold up? Why we I don't know? 0:07:25.040 --> 0:07:27.080 Wayne? Wayne was playing. 0:07:26.880 --> 0:07:31.080 Wayne sneezes and were reported playing games with the media 0:07:31.200 --> 0:07:33.760 and with clubs and keeping people guessing. 0:07:33.880 --> 0:07:35.920 And we all know what's going to happen, right, It's 0:07:35.920 --> 0:07:37.480 going to end up at House. It's going to coach 0:07:37.560 --> 0:07:40.640 House for the next three years, then probably coach P and 0:07:40.680 --> 0:07:42.640 G when they coming in the comp in twenty and. 0:07:42.640 --> 0:07:43.840 Then Sam Burgess will be back. 0:07:44.000 --> 0:07:48.680 Yeah, you know, we all you know, Wayne just just 0:07:48.720 --> 0:07:52.120 doesn't want to it to be formally announced to Wayne's 0:07:52.160 --> 0:07:56.080 ready to formally announce it. So it'll happened. Nick, Yeah, 0:07:56.200 --> 0:07:58.480 I made a magic ground. Probably sign off the contract 0:07:58.480 --> 0:08:00.400 and Bob's your uncle. Move on. 0:08:00.640 --> 0:08:03.280 I like the fact. Or we'll get some more clarity 0:08:03.320 --> 0:08:05.120 on it from South in the next couple of weeks. 0:08:05.160 --> 0:08:08.760 But if I'm them, I'm not making the same mistake 0:08:08.800 --> 0:08:11.400 and putting the cap on Wayne Wayne's tenure. I'm not 0:08:11.440 --> 0:08:14.080 saying in the fourth year, this is who's coaching. 0:08:14.120 --> 0:08:17.880 But I think Wayne has my gap feelers. Wayne's almost 0:08:17.880 --> 0:08:20.080 committed to coach the expansion team. 0:08:20.160 --> 0:08:22.040 If Wayne thinks he can win a comp in that 0:08:22.040 --> 0:08:25.200 fourth year of SOUSE, He's not going anywhere, regardless of what. 0:08:25.240 --> 0:08:28.680 If he's given Peter Landy to promise I'll coach them, because. 0:08:28.480 --> 0:08:30.240 He hasn't broken his word before. 0:08:30.920 --> 0:08:34.000 Oh, well, I'm being serious though, And if I'm if, 0:08:34.000 --> 0:08:37.480 I'm if, I'm I don't know. If I'm well, ask 0:08:37.520 --> 0:08:39.880 the Dragons, ask the roosters. Oh you're talking about yeah, 0:08:40.200 --> 0:08:41.880 directly to PVL, I'm. 0:08:41.679 --> 0:08:43.440 Not saying he has made a promise to people. Yeah, 0:08:43.920 --> 0:08:47.120 our suggestions, PV. I wants him to coach the P 0:08:47.200 --> 0:08:48.200 and G team when it comes to. 0:08:48.400 --> 0:08:50.280 Me seventy seven, seventy eight by. 0:08:50.200 --> 0:08:52.560 Then, yeah, wh shows no signs. 0:08:53.240 --> 0:08:53.880 I love it. 0:08:54.240 --> 0:08:56.800 He loves that PNG and he plays games with us. 0:08:56.840 --> 0:08:58.200 Just with that the media, it's be a lot of 0:08:58.200 --> 0:09:00.960 trouble in that PG, so it wouldn't be so private jet. 0:09:02.600 --> 0:09:04.520 But the suggestion is going to get a private jet. 0:09:04.720 --> 0:09:07.480 I think what's our Sydney. They don't need to worry 0:09:07.559 --> 0:09:10.360 about who's going to be their next coach. Yeah, until 0:09:10.600 --> 0:09:12.880 you know, well, once we get into year two and 0:09:12.960 --> 0:09:16.880 whatever the case, maybe I'd be surprised if it's not Dave. 0:09:17.160 --> 0:09:19.800 The question will be is when they can do they 0:09:19.840 --> 0:09:22.800 put Sam into that role alongside Wayne in that third 0:09:22.880 --> 0:09:24.240 year when it's not necessary. 0:09:24.720 --> 0:09:28.199 I think is better off doing what he's doing Warrington, 0:09:29.880 --> 0:09:31.319 So that was that would have mean he would have 0:09:31.400 --> 0:09:34.719 coached in the Super League for three years, do you 0:09:34.800 --> 0:09:35.240 know what I mean? 0:09:35.360 --> 0:09:38.520 Like not, but if you're head coaching superle are you 0:09:38.559 --> 0:09:40.360 going to come back to serve the year as an 0:09:40.400 --> 0:09:43.920 assistant coach to Wayan Bennett or that's true. 0:09:44.840 --> 0:09:46.959 It just depends on if you're coming back guaranteed with 0:09:47.000 --> 0:09:50.160 that position, then you do. If you're not guaranteed, I 0:09:50.160 --> 0:09:52.439 don't think it's absolutely necessary and I don't think it is. 0:09:52.640 --> 0:09:55.079 No, I'm not saying I think I think you can 0:09:55.120 --> 0:10:00.640 love in Sydney in October of course preseason on in November. 0:10:00.720 --> 0:10:04.600 Yeah, Yeah, there's no there's there's no great need or 0:10:04.840 --> 0:10:06.920 rush to have Sam Burgess as part of that coaching 0:10:07.000 --> 0:10:10.320 staff unless he wants to unless he wants to return 0:10:11.240 --> 0:10:14.439 because this is his home now, right and we're closely 0:10:14.480 --> 0:10:17.800 with Wayne. But I just don't if I'm South, I'm not. 0:10:19.480 --> 0:10:22.160 Question sounds and crisis at the moment. Right, there are 0:10:22.320 --> 0:10:22.920 all sorts. 0:10:23.040 --> 0:10:25.439 Yes. Can Wayne walk in there, Yes. 0:10:25.200 --> 0:10:28.840 And turn them into a contender with that squad? 0:10:29.320 --> 0:10:30.960 I think you can because if you look at that 0:10:31.000 --> 0:10:33.600 squad right this side that's playing North Queens, then play 0:10:33.640 --> 0:10:39.120 the Dragons unreconnic. But if we throw in Latrell, Campbell, Graham. 0:10:40.240 --> 0:10:42.640 But I'm talking, these are the names that are in 0:10:42.679 --> 0:10:48.120 that side, right, Patroll, Campbell, Graham, Cody Walker, Keon Tatola, Widen, 0:10:49.320 --> 0:10:54.320 Cam Murray Arrow. Okay, there's eight representative really good players there. 0:10:54.400 --> 0:10:56.960 Cody iven' ever mentioned Cody and Cook right because their 0:10:57.000 --> 0:10:59.440 former well their formers waiving. 0:11:00.000 --> 0:11:01.280 I want to get the best out of Cody. 0:11:01.400 --> 0:11:04.360 Okay, So I think you can build that Like people 0:11:04.440 --> 0:11:06.440 have been so too critical of the roster that the 0:11:06.440 --> 0:11:08.840 issue is is the balance of the ross is not there. Right. 0:11:09.120 --> 0:11:11.040 You can pick holes in terms of their middles and 0:11:11.080 --> 0:11:15.439 the like, but we haven't seen You've got laws god, right, 0:11:15.520 --> 0:11:15.960 So that's. 0:11:15.840 --> 0:11:16.400 A great thing. 0:11:16.520 --> 0:11:18.320 So that's what I'm saying. 0:11:17.600 --> 0:11:19.640 It's not. 0:11:20.160 --> 0:11:23.120 It's the top eight side. Whether it's a Premiership winningside, 0:11:23.120 --> 0:11:25.160 I'm not sure, but it is the top eight side. 0:11:25.200 --> 0:11:27.360 And then the upside of having Wayne in there to 0:11:27.440 --> 0:11:30.880 get the best out of la Cody, which you're going 0:11:30.960 --> 0:11:33.959 to back him to do. Who knows, who knows what. 0:11:33.920 --> 0:11:36.280 The top fourteen, it's top fourteen next year. 0:11:36.200 --> 0:11:38.520 And we've got a bit of sprinkling of some talent 0:11:39.760 --> 0:11:42.640 they need. Good point, Yeah, Monroe, and I didn't mention 0:11:42.720 --> 0:11:46.200 Alex Johnston and the wife right so the site is 0:11:46.280 --> 0:11:49.679 not as bad as people suggestion right on, if you 0:11:49.720 --> 0:11:50.640 can get them all all fit. 0:11:50.720 --> 0:11:54.120 And what understand my understanding is the salary caps out 0:11:54.120 --> 0:11:57.040 of whack. So something's going to have to give and 0:11:57.080 --> 0:12:00.080 they're gonna have to tap a few players, yeah, for 0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:02.160 for Wayne to get some flexibility in the raw stuff. 0:12:02.480 --> 0:12:05.280 And we've overpaid in a couple of areas. We've heard 0:12:05.320 --> 0:12:06.800 them and we know that they want to talk to them. 0:12:06.800 --> 0:12:09.240 They've reached out to Angus Crichton, whether or not they'd 0:12:09.280 --> 0:12:13.240 have the finances to get that done. They've signed laws Dodd. 0:12:14.400 --> 0:12:15.880 You're looking at props. 0:12:15.559 --> 0:12:17.040 In England as well, which is of course a little 0:12:17.040 --> 0:12:17.640 bit of drama. 0:12:17.840 --> 0:12:21.040 If lock Ilias moves then that will clear up some 0:12:21.120 --> 0:12:23.240 part of their cap. Is the first player that's asked 0:12:23.240 --> 0:12:24.640 for permission to. 0:12:25.880 --> 0:12:30.120 The possible drama is if Dodd doesn't fire huge which 0:12:30.160 --> 0:12:31.840 is the possibility. 0:12:31.960 --> 0:12:34.959 Yeah, yeah, because that's a big money sign in a 0:12:35.800 --> 0:12:37.560 position where you could argue if they needed to make 0:12:37.600 --> 0:12:42.000 it or not, but in a side that's salary cap 0:12:42.080 --> 0:12:46.280 is so tight. They've gone all in a on a 0:12:46.360 --> 0:12:49.000 seven who were just not sure's not sure. 0:12:49.280 --> 0:12:52.160 He looks a good player though. I think Wayne. Wayne's 0:12:52.200 --> 0:12:53.880 a smart coach, and he looks a good player, and 0:12:53.920 --> 0:12:54.680 he's a smart player. 0:12:56.120 --> 0:12:56.840 Do we believe that? 0:12:57.520 --> 0:13:00.120 I wonder if ends up staying for that fire on 0:13:00.160 --> 0:13:03.000 a year of his contract on the back of a 0:13:03.040 --> 0:13:06.880 broken leg, fine and finds his feet again just and 0:13:06.920 --> 0:13:10.080 then allows him to put himself in the shop window 0:13:10.640 --> 0:13:12.880 to go again to market, but he. 0:13:12.840 --> 0:13:14.360 Won't play first grade. That's the issue. 0:13:14.360 --> 0:13:16.640 Well, if Dog doesn't fire, he will. Yeah. 0:13:16.880 --> 0:13:18.360 I think they spent a lot of money on Dowd 0:13:18.360 --> 0:13:20.280 and I think they'll they'll stick with him for as 0:13:20.320 --> 0:13:20.880 long as they can. 0:13:20.960 --> 0:13:23.439 I think black Sol said if the coach doesn't want 0:13:23.679 --> 0:13:26.440 Lewis thought, he's not the coach for us. No, No, 0:13:26.480 --> 0:13:28.400 I know what you mean. He might. He might. 0:13:29.600 --> 0:13:32.079 Eliots will end up somewhere. There's clubs that need halves 0:13:32.679 --> 0:13:33.000 of them. 0:13:33.040 --> 0:13:35.480 Yeah, but he's what I'm saying is he's on a 0:13:35.640 --> 0:13:37.640 pretty good deal at South in the final year of 0:13:37.679 --> 0:13:40.160 his contract. Stick around for twelve months, get through the 0:13:40.160 --> 0:13:42.880 broken legs, show you back in form, then you're on 0:13:42.920 --> 0:13:43.520 your way again. 0:13:44.000 --> 0:13:45.880 It just feels like to me, it's too far gone. 0:13:46.000 --> 0:13:48.120 I think, yeah, there's a bit of that and you'll. 0:13:47.920 --> 0:13:51.360 Get like the dogs and the dogs now it's too 0:13:51.360 --> 0:13:52.560 far gone in a laye. 0:13:53.160 --> 0:13:55.720 His issues not with Wayne Batat. That's right, that's exactly. 0:13:55.760 --> 0:13:57.920 So if Wayne sees something and he wants to give 0:13:57.960 --> 0:14:01.240 him a cuddle and they brought no, No, I get that. 0:14:01.320 --> 0:14:04.240 It makes sense. I need and we've just said he 0:14:05.760 --> 0:14:06.480 keeps out of whack. 0:14:06.960 --> 0:14:09.440 Is Cody Cody's got twelve months left on his deal. 0:14:10.280 --> 0:14:12.240 Is he guaranteed to be there? You know? Danmid Cole's 0:14:12.240 --> 0:14:14.320 got twelve months left on his deal? Is he guaranteed? 0:14:14.320 --> 0:14:18.280 Wayne? Wayne's shocked If. 0:14:19.720 --> 0:14:20.800 I'd be shocked you if. 0:14:21.320 --> 0:14:24.160 Cookie is the one I think we've all acknowledged Damien 0:14:24.240 --> 0:14:25.880 Cooks the interesting one at all. 0:14:26.000 --> 0:14:29.000 Who would find that he would find historically I'm just 0:14:29.000 --> 0:14:30.920 trying to think historically through the clubs. 0:14:30.960 --> 0:14:32.720 Wayne likes that experienced half. 0:14:32.960 --> 0:14:34.880 He gets a little bit more out of the older half, 0:14:36.040 --> 0:14:37.600 and can and maybe. 0:14:37.440 --> 0:14:39.480 Get a bit more juice out of Cody Walker. I 0:14:39.560 --> 0:14:40.120 reckon he can. 0:14:40.280 --> 0:14:44.800 Yeah, They've got Mamilla's to play Hooker, a long. 0:14:44.760 --> 0:14:46.400 Term deal and decent money as well. 0:14:46.600 --> 0:14:50.280 Thinking that he would slide into to replace Cook as 0:14:50.280 --> 0:14:51.440 well just doesn't quite happen. 0:14:51.600 --> 0:14:54.760 It's happened. It's happening now right, the sort of transition 0:14:54.800 --> 0:14:57.600 at the moment, it's just what it sounds like. Cookie 0:14:57.640 --> 0:15:00.880 doesn't want to go. Yeah, so that's when it becomes 0:15:00.880 --> 0:15:01.840 an issue. 0:15:01.560 --> 0:15:03.520 Speaking of people, they don't want to go. David for 0:15:03.600 --> 0:15:05.760 Feeder Dao. Wow. 0:15:06.000 --> 0:15:07.640 I think we're all stunning. 0:15:07.360 --> 0:15:11.960 All shocked around just before eight am on Wednesday morning, 0:15:12.000 --> 0:15:13.960 when a couple of emails lobbed into our inbox. 0:15:14.160 --> 0:15:16.880 I thought it was a prank. Yeah, I thought it 0:15:16.920 --> 0:15:18.760 was like a seriously. 0:15:19.680 --> 0:15:22.120 I didn't really read it. And then the phone starts 0:15:22.160 --> 0:15:24.040 blowing up and I'm like, what's going on here? And 0:15:24.080 --> 0:15:27.280 then going wow, So this all came out out of 0:15:27.320 --> 0:15:29.560 a bit of a surprise for us, it happened. It 0:15:29.600 --> 0:15:31.800 came out of surprise to the Roosters as well, when 0:15:31.880 --> 0:15:35.360 Nick Politis received the phone call from for Feeder's management 0:15:35.440 --> 0:15:40.120 late on on Tuesday night, about ten pm on Tuesday night, 0:15:40.160 --> 0:15:44.040 the first call was made, and then Nick woke up 0:15:44.040 --> 0:15:46.840 early on Wednesday morning, rang the coach and said, you 0:15:46.880 --> 0:15:50.840 know that David for Feeder guy, he's not coming and 0:15:51.000 --> 0:15:54.120 it's sort of unfolded from there. As of Wednesday afternoon, 0:15:54.200 --> 0:15:58.040 David had yet to reach out to the Roosters personally, 0:15:58.120 --> 0:16:02.320 and I'm not sure if that's since, but obviously we're 0:16:02.320 --> 0:16:06.480 all surprised by what do we make of that day 0:16:06.560 --> 0:16:09.720 for the Roosters, I guess initially and then ready for 0:16:09.760 --> 0:16:10.400 the Titans. 0:16:10.520 --> 0:16:13.040 Well, it certainly rocked the Roosters boat, that's for sure, 0:16:13.080 --> 0:16:17.000 because they had done a lot of forward planning for 0:16:17.120 --> 0:16:20.280 twenty five twenty six and it all included David Feeda 0:16:20.360 --> 0:16:24.960 a big blue chip salary cap signing and now that's 0:16:24.800 --> 0:16:29.400 that's a huge chunk of your cap, and you know, 0:16:29.440 --> 0:16:32.280 the repercussions around Angus, Crichton and Statilli Toupreneur are the 0:16:32.320 --> 0:16:34.520 big ones at the moment, and I'm a little bit 0:16:34.520 --> 0:16:36.640 concerned what impact that will have in the dressing room 0:16:37.800 --> 0:16:41.240 when you're told two players that you're free to go suddenly. 0:16:41.000 --> 0:16:43.520 No, maybe it's a chance we can keep you. 0:16:44.560 --> 0:16:47.840 I don't think Tupanoa stays day. I think that's you're 0:16:47.880 --> 0:16:51.560 right about his reaction. I think Touperneur will leave because 0:16:51.600 --> 0:16:54.400 I think we'll get interest from elsewhere and the fact 0:16:54.480 --> 0:16:57.800 they told him basically you're free to guard I think 0:16:57.960 --> 0:17:00.880 I think in his head, my sense is that he's gone, 0:17:01.080 --> 0:17:03.240 he will go. I think Angus is the chance is staying. 0:17:03.240 --> 0:17:03.520 I don't. 0:17:03.760 --> 0:17:07.400 They always said that they were hopeful to keep the Angus, 0:17:07.440 --> 0:17:10.320 so even if Dave was coming. So the issue is 0:17:10.320 --> 0:17:13.320 with Angers. His price has gone up, and what they 0:17:13.320 --> 0:17:14.920 thought they might have got Angers for a month or 0:17:14.920 --> 0:17:17.720 two months ago, it's doubled now and he's going to 0:17:17.840 --> 0:17:19.800 There's a lot of clubs interest in Angus as well, 0:17:19.880 --> 0:17:23.000 So that's the challenge for them where Angus is conserved. 0:17:23.359 --> 0:17:24.479 I think Enturepreneur will leave. 0:17:24.520 --> 0:17:26.800 I think he's Do you think he'll still go regardless? 0:17:26.840 --> 0:17:29.119 I think you'll still going regardless. Yeah, they've still got 0:17:29.119 --> 0:17:29.560 too many. 0:17:29.400 --> 0:17:32.560 Bad as depending on Angus now or well. 0:17:32.720 --> 0:17:34.920 Think as I said, I think it's hard for them to. 0:17:35.200 --> 0:17:39.560 I wouldn't resign it back now. I wouldn't one step 0:17:39.560 --> 0:17:43.560 at the So you think that even for feeder taking charge, 0:17:43.600 --> 0:17:46.560 Angus Crichton goes and they lose, Yeah. 0:17:46.400 --> 0:17:48.000 I think there's every chance that till he leaves. 0:17:48.080 --> 0:17:51.119 Yes, even if Angus doesn't stay correct well, and you 0:17:51.160 --> 0:17:52.439 think they shouldn't reach I. 0:17:52.440 --> 0:17:55.320 Don't think they should resign Angus. And I'm seeing what 0:17:55.359 --> 0:17:59.919 everyone's saying. I'm seeing a back in charge just dominating him. 0:18:00.240 --> 0:18:04.440 And however, it's taken a long time, a long time 0:18:04.480 --> 0:18:05.960 for Angus Crichton to get to this. 0:18:05.920 --> 0:18:06.639 Point in time. 0:18:07.240 --> 0:18:10.520 And my concern with the Roosters is is that there's 0:18:10.520 --> 0:18:14.399 a vacuum of talent leaving the club, a lot of 0:18:14.480 --> 0:18:15.720 leadership leaving the club. 0:18:15.920 --> 0:18:18.080 And I'm not. 0:18:18.080 --> 0:18:20.560 Being overly harsh towards Angus year, but he's not a 0:18:20.600 --> 0:18:24.440 recognized leader. And so when the Roosters go through this 0:18:24.960 --> 0:18:27.680 change next year, a bit of a reset, blooding new players, 0:18:28.080 --> 0:18:30.040 I don't know if Angus is the leader that the 0:18:30.119 --> 0:18:32.240 Roosters need. 0:18:32.880 --> 0:18:34.960 To be guiding them. 0:18:35.080 --> 0:18:37.200 And I just wonder if they just go right, twenty 0:18:37.240 --> 0:18:41.600 twenty five is a reset year. Use Angus's money for 0:18:41.760 --> 0:18:46.000 twenty six. What is it, six hundred seven hundred right? 0:18:46.200 --> 0:18:49.359 Put me probably, you know, use that money wisely for 0:18:49.440 --> 0:18:54.160 twenty six and go again. I just don't see twenty 0:18:54.200 --> 0:18:56.520 five as being a major roosters a year, given the 0:18:56.560 --> 0:19:00.199 amount of players that they're going to lose, So why 0:19:00.280 --> 0:19:05.720 not just call it without at this and he's starting form. 0:19:05.160 --> 0:19:10.639 Has been irresistible though Ogam, he should be picked. He's 0:19:10.680 --> 0:19:11.320 a form back row. 0:19:11.400 --> 0:19:13.240 He's playing better than you've got a little bit Martin 0:19:13.400 --> 0:19:14.680