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Speaker 1: This is Brownies Podcast!

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Brownies Podcast.

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Speaker 3: Dear God, we've got a lot to cover, including Melbourne

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Speaker 3: are falling apart at the seams. Campbell Brown has an expose. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 3: we're not going to call Sticks for a real messed

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Speaker 3: up story this episode, but oh well, you're giving your take.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, good afternoon, good morning, whatever it is, Dino,

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Speaker 2: but I'll tell you what, Sticks was wrapped. He was

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Speaker 2: absolutely wrapped when you went to work on the podcast,

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Speaker 2: the editing, and Broads then came in over the top

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Speaker 2: and did some more editing. It was wrapped up. That

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Speaker 2: whole story got cut out of the podcast. I texted him.

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Speaker 2: I said, mate, thought best not to include the story

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Speaker 2: in the podcast. And he replied, thanks, mate. Yeah. I

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Speaker 2: think he's very happy.

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Speaker 4: A strong argument to come on.

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Speaker 3: We haven't chatted to Campbell since the incident. So Campbell,

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Speaker 3: in hindsight, dog, do you see why it might not

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Speaker 3: have been too palatable for the internet?

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Speaker 4: I'm not a big hindsight operator. I believe you just

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Speaker 4: push forward in.

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Speaker 5: Life and you never look back too far, especially when

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Speaker 5: you've made an error in judgment. But look, he does

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Speaker 5: work for the same company as my sister and my

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Speaker 5: sister being on the board there. I did strong arm

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Speaker 5: him into that chat. He was reluctant to, but I

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Speaker 5: sort of, I did four sticks.

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Speaker 2: And he had a few crownies at that stage, Brown Dog,

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Speaker 2: when you twisted his arm.

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Speaker 5: He was about to head into a catch up with

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Speaker 5: some of his, premiership teammates.

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Speaker 4: So I think he'd either had a few or was

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Speaker 4: about to have a few and he's.

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Speaker 5: In quite a jovial mood when he said yes and

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Speaker 5: I wouldn't let him back out of it.

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Speaker 3: My favourite part was when Sticks being a gentleman, an

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Speaker 3: old school gentleman.

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Speaker 1: That he is, he goes, are there any women there? Alright,

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Speaker 1: I won't swear.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it wasn't that lovely because I've been in that

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Speaker 5: situation before and I just haven't given a f * * *

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Speaker 5: if women were there or not.

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Speaker 2: Do you call that chivalrous, Dino?

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Speaker 1: Old school chivalry.

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Speaker 2: Old school chivalry. Yeah, he's one of the great sticks.

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Speaker 2: And I tell you what, can drop a crown lager,

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Speaker 2: the pride of the fleet, better than any man I've

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Speaker 2: ever seen. Man, woman, child, animal, whatever it is. He

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Speaker 2: drops a crown lager like it's going out of fashion.

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Speaker 3: Did he mention anything about Campbell's real cringe voicemail where

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Speaker 3: he just had to sing Stand By Your Man?

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Speaker 1: Any mention of that, John?

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Speaker 2: No, no, I actually didn't bring that up because I

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Speaker 2: know it's a sore point for Sticks. He probably, hopefully,

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Speaker 2: like most people, we don't answer his voicemails. So hopefully

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Speaker 2: that just stays that way. Tell you what, I had

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Speaker 2: something to do this morning, Brown Dog, and been watching

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Speaker 2: the UFC promos because Israel Adesanya fights Drakis Duplessis, the

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Speaker 2: big South African, on Sunday in Perth. That's going to

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Speaker 2: be awesome over at the Wildcat Stadium. I think it's

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Speaker 2: RAC Arena, Dino. Over in your old neck of the woods,

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Speaker 2: that's going to be massive for the middleweight title. But obviously,

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Speaker 2: my little Jackie Brown's been excited, been watching the promo.

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Speaker 2: So he's challenged me to a fight this morning. So

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Speaker 2: the fight in the lounge room, on the carpet, and

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Speaker 2: we went to work. We went to work for five

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Speaker 2: or ten minutes. I'll tell you what. He's getting the

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Speaker 2: strong little bastard. 12 years old, so brown dog, all

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Speaker 2: the best. When your three Bs grow up, it's going

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Speaker 2: to be on for young and old. So if I

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Speaker 2: center and start training because your young bloke's going to

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Speaker 4: I hope he does.

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Speaker 5: You always wish that your kids grow up to be

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Speaker 5: bigger and better than you are. And I hope Israel

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Speaker 5: Adesanya dishes up a better performance than the absolute garbage

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Speaker 5: he dished up in his last title fight up.

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Speaker 4: In Sydney last year, wasn't it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was there.

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Speaker 5: I was there and I think I was in the

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Speaker 5: KO box.

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Speaker 4: I think you actually organised it, JB, for me.

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Speaker 2: Or Dicko.

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Speaker 4: Dicko did, remember?

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Speaker 2: That's right. Yeah, KO, yep.

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Speaker 3: With the greatest respect to your son, is he going

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Speaker 3: to stick to boxing? Because we've had falconry in the past.

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Speaker 3: We've had judo.

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Speaker 1: We've had archery. He wanted to be an F1 driver.

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Speaker 4: Blown mowing, fishing.

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Speaker 1: How long is this boxing going to last, realistically?

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Speaker 2: Well, the BMX is the latest. So he's in the BMX. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so he's got a... Discus, he's going to be the

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Speaker 2: next Matt Denny. We've spoken about that. Matt Denny. There's

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Speaker 2: a lot happening. There's a lot happening in Jackie Brown's

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Speaker 2: little mind. And obviously he's putting the crab pots out

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Speaker 2: because there's been a lot of rain up here, Dino.

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Speaker 2: He's hit me up this morning and said, hey, Dad,

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Speaker 2: after I've made him submit in a magnificent ankle lock

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Speaker 2: or whatever it's called, he said, make sure you go.

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Speaker 2: you load up with plenty of mullet because we've got

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Speaker 2: to fill the crab pots tonight because it's been raining

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Speaker 2: and the crabs will be out. Son of a bitch.

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Speaker 1: Hey, how long a drive from Brisbane City is your place?

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Speaker 2: Hour.

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Speaker 1: I'm coming, mate, for them crabs. I need that white gold.

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Speaker 2: In my mouth. succulent crabs as jack carlson would say.

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Speaker 3: All right pete now hey so before we get into

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Speaker 3: it uh brody you said uh there's some show feedback

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Speaker 3: you want to get that out of the way first

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Speaker 3: brother oh.

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Speaker 6: It's it's pretty important lads and it's just good to

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Speaker 6: see that people are acknowledging all members of the team

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Speaker 6: here so yeah and this is from a an avid

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Speaker 6: listener and he just wanted to let us know something

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Speaker 6: so please pay attention.

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Speaker 7: Yeah hang on mate um I just thought it was

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Speaker 7: funny that over the months gone by.

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Speaker 8: That they sort of try to shut you up and

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Speaker 8: have more of their own voices on the podcast when

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Speaker 8: Brown Dog just sounds like a little child giggling at

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Speaker 8: his own jokes and JB sounds like he's choking on

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Speaker 8: gravel most of the time and Dino just yells at

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Speaker 8: random comments and carries on like a pork chop.

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Speaker 7: We're really the only one with actual rich timber and

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Speaker 7: deep tones perfect for radio and in this case podcasting

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Speaker 7: is you. anyone with half a brain would know that

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Speaker 7: your voice is very resonant and, you know, it sounds great.

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Speaker 7: So don't take their comments to heart because it really

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Speaker 7: should be you and.

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Speaker 8: Less of them.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree that your voice is fantastic for radio.

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Speaker 5: It's just the stuff that comes out of your mouth

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Speaker 5: that's garbage.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Brodie's word economy just doesn't exist. He thinks that

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Speaker 3: everything he says is profound, like we all did when

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Speaker 3: we first started on the microphone. And Rick's got to

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Speaker 3: stop drinking. With voicemails like that, he's got to get

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Speaker 2: I think Rick and Brodie are related. I think there's

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Speaker 2: a fair chance that Rick may be Brodie's dad. Is

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Speaker 2: that a chance, Brown Dog? Should we investigate that? Is

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Speaker 2: it Ancestry.com maybe?

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Speaker 1: They could be related.

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Speaker 2: One of the degenerates is Brodie's dad.

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Speaker 4: They could absolutely be related. There's no doubt about that.

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Speaker 5: Hey, you know how I had to walk back some

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Speaker 5: comments a few weeks ago about Dean Cox?

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Speaker 4: Not coaching the West Coast Eagles.

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Speaker 2: Hasn't there been some walking back?

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Speaker 4: Can I walk forward on that?

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Speaker 5: Because I still think, and this is not sort of

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Speaker 5: David Ox-Schwartz saying that Dusty's still going to play for

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Speaker 5: the Gold Coast and everything.

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Speaker 4: I still think that he's a chance to coach the

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Speaker 4: West Coast Eagles.

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Speaker 1: Based on?

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Speaker 4: Ash Hansen's pulled out. Everyone's pulled out.

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Speaker 5: And I just reckon they're going to offer him a

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Speaker 5: godfather offer that might.

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Speaker 4: Have too many Hungry Jacks to refuse.

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Speaker 3: Don't do this to me because that's all I want.

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Speaker 3: He knows the secrets of John Longmire. He's a spicy boy.

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Speaker 3: We've seen him go nuts. Did you see his ass crack.

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Speaker 1: When they came back and beat.

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Speaker 1: Collingwood the other week.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, last week.

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Speaker 1: Coxie was going so wild that he showed the nation

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Speaker 1: his ass crack. I want that ass crack intensity in

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Speaker 1: the Eagles coaching.

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Speaker 2: Hang on. Danny Daly was mentioned. It was interesting this

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Speaker 2: morning on SEN. I just listened to the boys while

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Speaker 2: I was doing leg day. Leg day is hard too,

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Speaker 2: isn't it? Because it's full body. Anyway, that's another topic.

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Speaker 2: But Danny Daly was suggested. Danny Daly is the GM

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Speaker 2: of football. He's been very well-respected. assistant coach around the

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Speaker 2: Brisbane for a few years. Would West Coast entertain the

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Speaker 2: Chris Fagan route of a non-ex-AFL player, but also someone

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Speaker 2: who's come from the footy management industry Well, GM, a

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Speaker 2: football background, Brown Ducks. It's certainly been successful for the

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it has.

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Speaker 5: Look, it's a little bit hit and miss, isn't it? Yeah,

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Speaker 5: it worked up in Brisbane with Fakes. I don't think

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Speaker 5: it worked with Brendan Bolton, David Noble, a couple of,

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Speaker 5: you know, I know that they coached well, Brendan Bolton

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Speaker 5: coached Box Hill and was under Clarko, but that didn't work.

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Speaker 5: I think their main priority will be to get someone

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Speaker 5: in their top three or four, like your Ash Hansons,

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Speaker 5: like your Dean Cox's.

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Speaker 4: They'll have a list there that they're going to go through.

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Speaker 2: I see Ash Hanson just pulled out this morning. Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Do you reckon, Dino, you've lived there. I've lived there

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Speaker 2: for 18 months when I was a kid, but it's

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Speaker 2: hard to remember, but Do you think they want a

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Speaker 2: big name or do you think that big name needs

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Speaker 2: to be there to succeed in that town?

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Speaker 3: John, maybe a big name, but what they certainly would

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Speaker 3: not do given the size of the club, the wealth

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Speaker 3: of the club, the potency of the media over there,

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Speaker 3: how psycho everyone is. They'd never take a risk. Like

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Speaker 3: they wouldn't go down the fags route because people would

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Speaker 3: lose their minds. So if not a big name, someone

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Speaker 3: that's definitely been in the game and in.

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Speaker 1: The box for a long time, I reckon. Does that

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Speaker 1: make sense?

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Speaker 4: It does.

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Speaker 2: It makes absolute total sense.

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Speaker 4: It's big business.

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Speaker 5: And I tell you who aren't getting their business right

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Speaker 5: at the moment, that's Melbourne Footy Club.

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Speaker 4: It's been 12 to 18 months since. of just negative

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Speaker 4: press after negative press.

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Speaker 5: And when you're a premiership winning side, you've got expectation

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Speaker 5: around you. Dynasties were spoken about. They haven't won a

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Speaker 5: final since, bowed out in straight sets. Then there's the

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Speaker 5: off-field drama. Then there's the stars that have gone off

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Speaker 2: No, it's a very good point. It's a great talking point. Brady,

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Speaker 4: He's now at Fremantle. So he's gone. Michael Hibbert.

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Speaker 4: You can throw him in the midfield. Who's played one

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Speaker 5: You throw your Ben Browns in there that haven't got

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Speaker 2: No, you made very good points. And I wouldn't be

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Speaker 2: And then you look at the younger mid. I'm just

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Speaker 2: They're going to be very, very competitive. They need to

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Speaker 2: it looks terrible. It looks like Melbourne's absolutely imploding. But

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Speaker 2: in regards to Melbourne, I think they'll be okay next year.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Well, that's the mail.

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Speaker 2: They've got some good draft capital. Yeah, they do.

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Speaker 5: And Tommy Lynch I know they're into, you know, who's

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, I'd love to see a Tom Lynch

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Speaker 3: Also, if you're Melbourne, pretty unlucky. Two straight sets, exits

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Speaker 1: It's a prick of.

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Speaker 4: A fine line sometimes.

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Speaker 2: Small margins, and they shouldn't have lost the Carlton game.

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Speaker 2: you one thing, just quickly. Are we done with Melbourne, boys?

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Speaker 2: Just quickly, an interesting note, and Bucks obviously knows the

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Speaker 2: So the rule change has actually been quite effective. in

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, ball security is a massive one in close games,

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Speaker 4: And remember, they got.

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Speaker 2: It allows structure, doesn't it, Brown Dog?

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Speaker 5: Remember they got pinged down in Perth against Fremantle for

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Speaker 4: So, no, good pick up there, JB.

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Speaker 3: John, have you noticed that if you– so Liam Duggan

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Speaker 3: almost as if you act cool enough, your demeanour will

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Speaker 2: As if you just stop, completely stop and go.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, rather than trying.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a good point. I think the umpires are

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Speaker 2: It wasn't a massive blow-up five or six weeks ago

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised. On the hardest trip in football

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Speaker 4: It's extraordinary.

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Speaker 2: So Vossi only has 11 players left. to pick to

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's extraordinary.

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Speaker 5: And we spoke about luck in winning close games as well.

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Speaker 4: He took them to the three.

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Speaker 2: Based on what?

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Speaker 4: Oh, he just... He knew your body. He knew your

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Speaker 5: He would sometimes come up and you'd be running a

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Speaker 4: And you'd go, yeah, how'd you know that? And he'd go, oh,

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Speaker 5: final when he'd done his hammy and managed time and

436
00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:45,510
Speaker 5: box hill and and everything like that and he's copped

437
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Speaker 5: a lot of criticism in the last certainly the last

438
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Speaker 5: month a lot of people are just blaming him for

439
00:19:51,270 --> 00:19:54,100
Speaker 5: the injury list. And I know that the game has

440
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Speaker 5: changed and they've had a few injuries for a long time,

441
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Speaker 5: but it's a whole football thing. You sit down with

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Speaker 5: your fitness staff and your strength and conditioning staff and

443
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Speaker 5: and your physios and your coaches and everything, you go

444
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Speaker 5: through programs and you do need to get the balance

445
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Speaker 5: right between pushing the players to get that elite level

446
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Speaker 5: of fitness and you might lose a couple along the

447
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Speaker 5: way due to soft tissue injuries.

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Speaker 4: But, geez, they've come out and absolutely assassinated him.

449
00:20:20,250 --> 00:20:24,050
Speaker 5: And as far as I'm concerned, he was one of the–

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Speaker 5: I mean, you've got Clarko and you've got the stars

451
00:20:26,619 --> 00:20:29,379
Speaker 5: like Buddy and Ruffy and Hodgie and that, but you've

452
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Speaker 5: got to get him on the park and and get

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Speaker 5: them fit and firing. And he certainly did that for

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Speaker 5: a long period of time at Port Adelaide and then

455
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Speaker 5: at Hawthorne. So the run's on the board for him.

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Speaker 5: It might not have gone to plan at Carlton, but

457
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Speaker 5: I don't like hearing his name getting besmirched because they've

458
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Speaker 5: had a bad run of injuries.

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Speaker 2: Well done, dog.

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Speaker 1: Good word. Besmirched.

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Speaker 2: I love it. I love these games too because I

462
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Speaker 2: remember going over to West Coast and it was supposed

463
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Speaker 2: to be Ben Cousins' return after he'd been into rehab.

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Speaker 2: And we went over there with a lot of injuries

465
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Speaker 2: because he didn't eventually play. He pulled out late in

466
00:21:05,020 --> 00:21:08,220
Speaker 2: the game. But Lee Matthews said to us, and this

467
00:21:08,260 --> 00:21:10,970
Speaker 2: happened maybe five or six times during Lee's coaching career

468
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Speaker 2: at Brisbane, where it was backs to the wall game.

469
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Speaker 2: And he used to say to the group, okay, boys,

470
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Speaker 2: this is a shield game. And what he meant by

471
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Speaker 2: that was if this team wins this game for whatever reason,

472
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Speaker 2: and in this regard it was injuries, the shield's going

473
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Speaker 2: to go up in our meeting room. and with the

474
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Speaker 2: names of the players that played in that team and

475
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Speaker 2: won that game. So he said he offered us the

476
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Speaker 2: Shield game. And we went over to Perth. We're paying

477
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Speaker 2: over $ 10, Brown Dog, against the West Coast Eagles. And

478
00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:42,619
Speaker 2: we got the chocolates. We won. I remember it was

479
00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,030
Speaker 2: a famous game. West Coast were wearing the WA jumper,

480
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Speaker 2: the famous Sandgrover jumper, and we were wearing the old

481
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Speaker 2: Fitzroy jumper. And we actually knocked them off. So these

482
00:21:51,770 --> 00:21:54,030
Speaker 2: are the games that really unify a group, and they

483
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Speaker 2: can pull them together. I wouldn't be surprised if Vossie,

484
00:21:57,100 --> 00:21:59,230
Speaker 2: just leant into that a little bit, leant into the

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Speaker 2: experiences he learned from Wayne Matthews.

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Speaker 3: John, having said all that, for us, for Eagles fans,

487
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Speaker 3: and credit to Eagles fans who are still packing out

488
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Speaker 3: that stadium for the last two and a half years. Like,

489
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Speaker 3: this has been dark times. But this is pretty much

490
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Speaker 3: our finals now. Any win we get, the crowd's going

491
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Speaker 3: to go ballistic. So you've got that added pressure. I've

492
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Speaker 3: just logged on to the Ladbrokes thingy, and Carlton are

493
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Speaker 3: at long odds. Eagles are at $ 1. 86.

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Speaker 1: Carlton, $ 1. 96. That's insane. It also says Donald Trump's at

495
00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:33,919
Speaker 1: long odds. Sorry about that. But this is wild, right?

496
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Speaker 1: Carlton are expected to lose against the Eagles. What world

497
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Speaker 1: are we living in?

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Speaker 5: It's a fickle world because if you'd have said that

499
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Speaker 5: to anyone in the footy world, especially the Eagles supporters

500
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Speaker 5: even a month ago, they would have thought they'd got

501
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Speaker 5: the market wrong.

502
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Speaker 4: There was a glitch in the system.

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Speaker 2: Amazing. I'll tell you what, I've got to– what about

504
00:22:53,570 --> 00:22:58,170
Speaker 2: this for a solution? Now, I think this is– Carlton's

505
00:22:58,230 --> 00:23:01,050
Speaker 2: a storied club. They've got so many supporters. They've got

506
00:23:01,070 --> 00:23:03,869
Speaker 2: so many passionate supporters. And I'm sure there's a lot

507
00:23:03,910 --> 00:23:06,010
Speaker 2: of talented footballers out there. So when we look at

508
00:23:06,050 --> 00:23:09,260
Speaker 2: the injury list and the replacements, they've got hardly anyone

509
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,619
Speaker 2: to pick from. I don't think it's out of the

510
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 2: question that tonight, Thursday night, out at Carlton, let's say

511
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Speaker 2: at Norton's or Percy's Bar, those famous pubs, and when

512
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Speaker 2: they run the meat tray or the raffle, whatever it

513
00:23:22,790 --> 00:23:27,530
Speaker 2: may be, if you win the meat tray tonight, you get–

514
00:23:27,990 --> 00:23:30,629
Speaker 2: a place in the team for Carlton on Sunday night

515
00:23:30,690 --> 00:23:34,840
Speaker 2: at the West Coast Leagues. Don't you reckon?

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Speaker 1: Yes, I do reckon.

517
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:39,500
Speaker 2: You never know what's out there. You could find a

518
00:23:39,619 --> 00:23:42,649
Speaker 2: spirited little forward pocket, a little nipsy just pops up

519
00:23:42,690 --> 00:23:45,210
Speaker 2: and kicks a couple of goals late over in Optus

520
00:23:45,230 --> 00:23:47,770
Speaker 2: Stadium and just gets the chocolates. Wouldn't that be a

521
00:23:47,810 --> 00:23:48,810
Speaker 2: fantastic story?

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Speaker 1: Mate, absolutely.

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Speaker 3: Hey, we're going to take a break, but did someone

524
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Speaker 3: watch Juddy on the front bar? Because I was watching

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Speaker 3: Have You Been Paying Attention? No, thank God you're here instead.

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00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:58,840
Speaker 1: Did you see Juddy, dog?

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Speaker 5: I didn't, but my phone started to light up, and

528
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:04,730
Speaker 5: I started to get text messages and WhatsApps from a

529
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Speaker 5: few people, and he was telling a story about me.

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Speaker 4: So that sparked my interest.

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Speaker 1: All right, back in a second. Welcome back to Brownies Podcast.

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Speaker 3: So, John, a big night for our friend Samuel Pang

533
00:24:18,490 --> 00:24:20,929
Speaker 3: on the telly last night. He's on one network and

534
00:24:20,990 --> 00:24:21,810
Speaker 3: the other one he's on.

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00:24:22,670 --> 00:24:23,370
Speaker 1: Thank God you're here.

536
00:24:23,390 --> 00:24:23,790
Speaker 2: Yes, boy.

537
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,300
Speaker 3: But on the front bar, our man, well, my man, Juddy,

538
00:24:27,820 --> 00:24:30,460
Speaker 3: and fitting considering it's Eagles Carlton this weekend.

539
00:24:30,500 --> 00:24:32,380
Speaker 1: But apparently, dog, you got a run.

540
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I did get a run.

541
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Speaker 5: And let's have a listen to the story that Juddy

542
00:24:37,910 --> 00:24:40,150
Speaker 5: and Sam Pang and the boys told on the front bar.

543
00:24:41,130 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 3: Are you tangling with Hawthorne's Campbell Brown and we'll see

544
00:24:43,780 --> 00:24:45,359
Speaker 3: how misunderstood you were, Juddy.

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00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:50,120
Speaker 9: It was the tribunal hearing of the season. Hot Brownlow

546
00:24:50,180 --> 00:24:54,619
Speaker 9: medal favourite charged with eye gouging. During the hearing, Hawthorne's

547
00:24:54,660 --> 00:24:58,570
Speaker 9: Campbell Brown gave evidence that at no stage did Judd's

548
00:24:58,660 --> 00:24:59,910
Speaker 9: finger enter his.

549
00:25:05,310 --> 00:25:05,429
Speaker 8: Eye.

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Speaker 4: My retina was nearly detached.

551
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:09,740
Speaker 5: I love you.

552
00:25:09,780 --> 00:25:12,220
Speaker 1: That looks inconclusive to me.

553
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:13,100
Speaker 2: You can't get much of that.

554
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:15,160
Speaker 6: No, not really.

555
00:25:15,180 --> 00:25:17,340
Speaker 1: So, Campbell Brown, you got off, of course.

556
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 2: Campbell Brown went to your aid at the tribunal hearing

557
00:25:21,220 --> 00:25:22,590
Speaker 2: and he actually ended up getting.

558
00:25:24,020 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 9: He was fine then, and then I think a period

559
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Speaker 9: of time later he said he lied.

560
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Speaker 4: That's right, he lied on the couch.

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Speaker 6: That's right.

562
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Speaker 9: And then six months or a year later he got issued,

563
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:34,200
Speaker 9: I reckon, a 20 grand fine.

564
00:25:34,780 --> 00:25:35,639
Speaker 4: I think it was 15.

565
00:25:35,619 --> 00:25:36,639
Speaker 2: Okay, chunky.

566
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 6: 15, that's like, I think Mark Ruff could have bought

567
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:43,359
Speaker 6: 30 cars.

568
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:48,270
Speaker 9: So did you help him out with the fine? Well,

569
00:25:48,290 --> 00:25:50,630
Speaker 9: I did it with the fine, but we did eventually

570
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Speaker 9: come to.

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00:25:52,290 --> 00:25:55,570
Speaker 2: An arrangement, I'd say. Oh, this is a.

572
00:25:56,950 --> 00:25:57,429
Speaker 9: Bit tasty.

573
00:25:57,450 --> 00:25:58,610
Speaker 4: Do you think we're going to leave it there?

574
00:25:58,650 --> 00:25:59,070
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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00:26:00,609 --> 00:26:02,369
Speaker 4: I caution you. What do you call that in radio?

576
00:26:02,390 --> 00:26:04,050
Speaker 4: That's a wedge. What do you call it when you

577
00:26:04,170 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 4: let them in? Oh, what a hook.

578
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:09,360
Speaker 2: Any sort of salary cap, like post-career salary cap?

579
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:09,940
Speaker 4: No, no.

580
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:13,420
Speaker 9: I gave him a stock tip a couple of years later,

581
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:14,639
Speaker 9: which he had a win on, I believe.

582
00:26:14,660 --> 00:26:17,629
Speaker 2: I feel the debt was squared. Well done to you.

583
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:18,340
Speaker 2: Cinderella story, man.

584
00:26:22,050 --> 00:26:22,929
Speaker 4: That's a true story.

585
00:26:23,010 --> 00:26:24,070
Speaker 1: That is a true story.

586
00:26:24,310 --> 00:26:26,869
Speaker 3: Doug, what I love about that whole story is the

587
00:26:26,910 --> 00:26:31,410
Speaker 3: footage is unrefutable. The man's eye finger was in your

588
00:26:31,550 --> 00:26:34,430
Speaker 3: eye socket, and you've had the nerve to go to

589
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Speaker 3: a legal setting and say black is white.

590
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Speaker 1: North is south.

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Speaker 6: Yes.

592
00:26:38,890 --> 00:26:42,820
Speaker 5: Yes, I was cross-examined by some very experienced QCs.

593
00:26:43,690 --> 00:26:46,160
Speaker 4: And I dead set looked him straight in the eye.

594
00:26:46,100 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 2: And lied to him.

595
00:26:47,780 --> 00:26:50,010
Speaker 5: And I lied to the chairman of the tribunal and

596
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Speaker 5: I lied to the three members of the tribunal in

597
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Speaker 5: Wayne Schimmelbusch and Emmett Dunn and– I think it was

598
00:26:56,220 --> 00:26:56,540
Speaker 5: Stuart Lowe.

599
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:58,439
Speaker 2: Emma Dunn. Emma Dunn is the hangman.

600
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Speaker 4: And you know what?

601
00:27:00,030 --> 00:27:05,050
Speaker 5: I'm either a very, very accomplished liar or they just

602
00:27:05,090 --> 00:27:08,330
Speaker 5: wanted to get Juddy off because there's no doubt that

603
00:27:08,430 --> 00:27:12,270
Speaker 5: he had his finger deep down into my retina.

604
00:27:12,710 --> 00:27:13,390
Speaker 2: But, yeah, I didn't.

605
00:27:13,490 --> 00:27:14,090
Speaker 4: What year was that?

606
00:27:14,109 --> 00:27:16,350
Speaker 2: Because that was the Brownlow year, wasn't it?

607
00:27:16,350 --> 00:27:16,419
Speaker 9: 07.

608
00:27:16,410 --> 00:27:18,670
Speaker 4: He was leading the Brownlow. I think he was even money.

609
00:27:18,730 --> 00:27:21,830
Speaker 4: And I certainly didn't want to shoot Bambi.

610
00:27:23,730 --> 00:27:26,130
Speaker 5: And, yeah, I was always brought up with the old

611
00:27:26,170 --> 00:27:28,350
Speaker 5: man to say that you help them get off and

612
00:27:28,369 --> 00:27:30,410
Speaker 5: the good karma comes back the other way because when

613
00:27:30,430 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 5: I am then up at the tribunal, I.

614
00:27:32,940 --> 00:27:35,780
Speaker 4: Expect the same from the others, which never.

615
00:27:35,619 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 5: F * * * ing came. We came in an

616
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:40,899
Speaker 5: era where everyone just decided to start telling the truth

617
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,210
Speaker 5: and even the doctors would write medical reports based on

618
00:27:44,230 --> 00:27:46,650
Speaker 5: the truth and it didn't give you too much wiggle room.

619
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Speaker 4: But I sent Judd an invoice and I never heard

620
00:27:49,590 --> 00:27:50,830
Speaker 4: from him for a couple of years.

621
00:27:51,609 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 5: And then he started to do Triple M Radio with

622
00:27:54,340 --> 00:27:56,420
Speaker 5: a good friend of mine, Luke Tunnicliffe, and I reminded

623
00:27:56,440 --> 00:28:00,060
Speaker 5: Tunners to tell him that he still owes me because

624
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,440
Speaker 5: I'm $ 15, 000.

625
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:01,500
Speaker 4: Out of pocket.

626
00:28:02,260 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 5: And one day I just get a call and Tunners says,

627
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,880
Speaker 5: Juddy's just told me to tell you to buy this

628
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 5: iron ore penny stock, right?

629
00:28:12,340 --> 00:28:13,900
Speaker 4: Just don't ask any questions.

630
00:28:14,220 --> 00:28:17,650
Speaker 5: Just buy it, hold on to it, and Juddy will

631
00:28:17,690 --> 00:28:20,970
Speaker 5: tell me to tell you when to sell it. And

632
00:28:21,670 --> 00:28:23,649
Speaker 5: I held it for about six or nine months, and

633
00:28:23,670 --> 00:28:26,030
Speaker 5: it went like five or six times what I bought

634
00:28:26,090 --> 00:28:29,020
Speaker 5: it at. So when he said we sort of squared

635
00:28:29,060 --> 00:28:32,379
Speaker 5: the ledger, we absolutely did. In fact, I'm well in front.

636
00:28:32,420 --> 00:28:35,060
Speaker 5: So thanks, Chris Judd Investments.

637
00:28:35,580 --> 00:28:37,900
Speaker 3: Is it all right to talk about those mechanics? Like

638
00:28:38,010 --> 00:28:39,810
Speaker 3: I don't know what insider trading is.

639
00:28:39,850 --> 00:28:40,830
Speaker 1: Is that all above?

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00:28:41,310 --> 00:28:43,930
Speaker 2: That's insider trading, yeah. So that'll probably be in Jack

641
00:28:43,950 --> 00:28:44,790
Speaker 2: to write, don't it?

642
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,950
Speaker 5: No, he spends all his time reading the financial review

643
00:28:49,030 --> 00:28:51,510
Speaker 5: and analyzing stocks and seeing who's on the board and

644
00:28:51,950 --> 00:28:54,410
Speaker 5: seeing when to buy and when to sell. He puts

645
00:28:54,550 --> 00:28:56,930
Speaker 5: more time into that than I do the races.

646
00:28:56,970 --> 00:28:59,230
Speaker 2: So I just took his advice. He gets up every

647
00:28:59,270 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 2: morning about 5 o'clock. goes into the gym and listens

648
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 2: to a podcast, Dino. So where do you reckon Brownie's

649
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,580
Speaker 2: podcast rates in terms of order of priorities for a

650
00:29:08,580 --> 00:29:12,750
Speaker 2: man that's running a financial investment services company? Probably in

651
00:29:12,790 --> 00:29:16,210
Speaker 2: charge of about $ 100 million at the moment. So Brownie's podcast,

652
00:29:16,250 --> 00:29:17,590
Speaker 2: he mightn't get to this episode.

653
00:29:17,610 --> 00:29:18,810
Speaker 4: He listens.

654
00:29:18,890 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 5: He gets up early and listens to the police monitors

655
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 5: to see how many houses in.

656
00:29:22,900 --> 00:29:24,180
Speaker 4: Brighton have been broken into.

657
00:29:26,570 --> 00:29:28,650
Speaker 2: No, Beck does that. Beck's all over that.

658
00:29:28,780 --> 00:29:29,500
Speaker 4: Oh, my God.

659
00:29:29,500 --> 00:29:31,990
Speaker 1: Hey, why does it seem– I'll tell you what.

660
00:29:31,990 --> 00:29:33,570
Speaker 2: What about the big news?

661
00:29:33,570 --> 00:29:33,820
Speaker 1: Yes.

662
00:29:33,820 --> 00:29:36,820
Speaker 2: Dino, what about the big news? Our man, not only

663
00:29:36,820 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 2: is he captain of Australia in Kabaddi, he has now been...

664
00:29:40,500 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 2: He's just been given the great honour of the captaincy

665
00:29:46,100 --> 00:29:49,180
Speaker 2: of Victoria in the upcoming AFL 9s game.

666
00:29:49,350 --> 00:29:50,530
Speaker 1: That's big, mate.

667
00:29:50,590 --> 00:29:51,170
Speaker 2: What an honour.

668
00:29:52,090 --> 00:29:54,050
Speaker 6: For those at home, he's pushing his chest out and

669
00:29:54,090 --> 00:29:55,870
Speaker 6: his little belly's going with it. He's trying to stand

670
00:29:55,930 --> 00:29:58,030
Speaker 6: up nice and tall and make himself look better.

671
00:29:58,550 --> 00:29:58,990
Speaker 4: Yeah.

672
00:29:59,070 --> 00:29:59,570
Speaker 2: So, obviously.

673
00:30:00,810 --> 00:30:02,330
Speaker 1: That's a bit loud. Proud of you, dog.

674
00:30:02,350 --> 00:30:03,390
Speaker 4: Proud of you. Thank you.

675
00:30:03,870 --> 00:30:07,620
Speaker 5: Big, big nines, AFL nines games at Gosher's Paddock in

676
00:30:07,630 --> 00:30:08,340
Speaker 5: a couple of weeks.

677
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 4: And Dermot Brereton is the coach of Victoria.

678
00:30:11,660 --> 00:30:12,860
Speaker 2: Sorry, it's Dermot Brereton. Brereton?

679
00:30:16,580 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 5: You've got Scotty Cummings and Kane Corns as the captain

680
00:30:20,380 --> 00:30:25,100
Speaker 5: and coach of the All-Stars, and they apparently scoured high

681
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 5: and low right around this great country of ours looking

682
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 5: for the sort of leadership that can drive Victoria forward.

683
00:30:34,140 --> 00:30:37,420
Speaker 4: We had, you know, Teddy Witton. We've had some greats.

684
00:30:37,460 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 4: We had Jonathan Brown, who I played under in 2008

685
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:40,630
Speaker 4: when we got up and won.

686
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:40,710
Speaker 8: And.

687
00:30:44,030 --> 00:30:47,350
Speaker 5: And clearly they've seen significant growth in my development as

688
00:30:47,390 --> 00:30:50,630
Speaker 5: a leader, and they've issued me with the captaincy.

689
00:30:50,650 --> 00:30:51,790
Speaker 4: So it's a real honour.

690
00:30:52,500 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 2: It's big, mate.

691
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,500
Speaker 1: It's big. It's no doubt huge. When is it, by

692
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:55,740
Speaker 1: the way?

693
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,940
Speaker 5: It's the 28th of August, which happens to be my birthday,

694
00:30:59,940 --> 00:31:02,590
Speaker 5: on a Wednesday night at Gosher's. And it would be

695
00:31:02,630 --> 00:31:06,190
Speaker 5: remiss of me not to reach out to JB and

696
00:31:07,070 --> 00:31:10,630
Speaker 5: just ask him for some advice on how to lead

697
00:31:10,670 --> 00:31:12,690
Speaker 5: from the front when you've got the big V on

698
00:31:12,770 --> 00:31:13,850
Speaker 5: to stick it up the Allies.

699
00:31:14,230 --> 00:31:16,890
Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad you asked, dog, because, you know, and

700
00:31:16,950 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 2: you would probably remember my famous speeches to get us

701
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 2: over the line back in that famous night in 2008.

702
00:31:21,660 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 2: Remind us. Yeah, but yeah, just to cover, I'm sure

703
00:31:26,140 --> 00:31:26,690
Speaker 2: you remember, dog.

704
00:31:27,060 --> 00:31:29,970
Speaker 4: I'll tell you what I do remember, JB.

705
00:31:29,990 --> 00:31:31,810
Speaker 2: You were probably up there with your childbirth and all

706
00:31:31,830 --> 00:31:32,470
Speaker 2: that sort of stuff.

707
00:31:32,930 --> 00:31:35,010
Speaker 5: You're a man of action because you just had a

708
00:31:35,050 --> 00:31:37,390
Speaker 5: tight hammy that week and Lee Matthews came out and

709
00:31:37,410 --> 00:31:39,590
Speaker 5: basically said that he wasn't going to risk you and

710
00:31:39,610 --> 00:31:41,580
Speaker 5: you weren't going to play. And so when I saw

711
00:31:41,620 --> 00:31:45,780
Speaker 5: you stride into the MCG and say, yeah, you said, Lee,

712
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:47,900
Speaker 5: I'm going to be playing. This is a great opportunity.

713
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 5: I've always wanted to lead the state. That was inspirational.

714
00:31:51,130 --> 00:31:53,210
Speaker 2: Thank you, dog. He wasn't happy with that. It didn't

715
00:31:53,230 --> 00:31:55,830
Speaker 2: go down that well. But, dog, you'll be magnificent. And

716
00:31:55,950 --> 00:31:58,650
Speaker 2: like you said, you lead by your actions, dog, which

717
00:31:58,770 --> 00:32:00,540
Speaker 2: you are. You are a man of that. You'll get

718
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,220
Speaker 2: out there. You'll lead by your actions. Don't worry about

719
00:32:03,260 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 2: all those other big names that think they should have

720
00:32:06,300 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 2: been captain. You're captain for one reason, because you're the dog.

721
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,970
Speaker 2: And there's only one dog, and that's you. And that's

722
00:32:12,990 --> 00:32:15,530
Speaker 2: why you'll lead this great state to victory. And at

723
00:32:15,550 --> 00:32:17,130
Speaker 2: the end of the day, you'll have the winning ache.

724
00:32:17,410 --> 00:32:20,270
Speaker 2: And you'll be sitting there saying, I stuck it right

725
00:32:20,350 --> 00:32:22,110
Speaker 2: up him. Or we stuck it right up him in

726
00:32:22,130 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 2: the words of E.J. Witten. So I can't wait for it, dog.

727
00:32:25,900 --> 00:32:28,180
Speaker 2: I need you to be the man who will walk

728
00:32:28,180 --> 00:32:29,900
Speaker 2: 500 miles. And then I need you to be the

729
00:32:29,940 --> 00:32:32,620
Speaker 2: man that's willing to walk another 500 miles. Just to

730
00:32:32,660 --> 00:32:36,460
Speaker 2: be that man who walked 1,000. To fall down at

731
00:32:36,510 --> 00:32:39,810
Speaker 2: the shed doors at the end of the game completely unharmed.

732
00:32:40,780 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 3: Cooked.

733
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 2: That's you, Campbell Brown, and that's why you'll be a

734
00:32:44,740 --> 00:32:46,150
Speaker 2: legend of the Big V.

735
00:32:46,330 --> 00:32:47,570
Speaker 4: Oh, there you go.

736
00:32:48,130 --> 00:32:50,110
Speaker 1: There you go. I am a Rex.

737
00:32:51,010 --> 00:32:55,770
Speaker 5: They didn't stand a chance, the All-Stars, that night when

738
00:32:55,790 --> 00:32:57,970
Speaker 5: we had the big fella giving us those sort of rev-ups.

739
00:32:58,030 --> 00:33:00,750
Speaker 5: So I might tell you what I might do next

740
00:33:00,810 --> 00:33:03,170
Speaker 5: week when you come down. I'll get the big V

741
00:33:03,370 --> 00:33:05,250
Speaker 5: jumper and I'll get you to hand it over to

742
00:33:05,270 --> 00:33:07,470
Speaker 5: me and we can have a bit of a ceremony.

743
00:33:07,830 --> 00:33:10,330
Speaker 2: Why don't we do that? I love that. Hey, I've

744
00:33:10,350 --> 00:33:13,060
Speaker 2: got another thing. Can we learn this before we go

745
00:33:13,100 --> 00:33:16,340
Speaker 2: to the games? Yeah. Have you been watching the receiver

746
00:33:16,380 --> 00:33:18,860
Speaker 2: thing on Netflix? Last year it was the quarterback. Has

747
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:23,700
Speaker 2: anyone seen– I've watched it. Yeah, and Justin Jefferson.

748
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:24,020
Speaker 8: Yes.

749
00:33:24,260 --> 00:33:26,850
Speaker 2: No, with all his bling. Yeah, with all his bling.

750
00:33:26,910 --> 00:33:29,230
Speaker 2: Legendary wide receiver for Minnesota. He's only been playing for

751
00:33:29,250 --> 00:33:30,610
Speaker 2: three or four years, but he could go down as

752
00:33:30,630 --> 00:33:33,780
Speaker 2: the greatest of all time. or certainly chasing Jerry Ross.

753
00:33:34,060 --> 00:33:36,540
Speaker 2: He does this dance after he scores a touchdown called

754
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 2: the gritty. Do we know the gritty, do we? Have

755
00:33:39,700 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 2: we seen the gritty?

756
00:33:40,980 --> 00:33:43,660
Speaker 5: I've only seen it through, well, I saw that celebration.

757
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 5: I didn't know what it was, but now the whole backstory.

758
00:33:45,620 --> 00:33:46,580
Speaker 5: Now everyone does the gritty.

759
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 6: It's a big TikTok trend.

760
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:48,870
Speaker 1: All the kids do it.

761
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 6: So even when you're playing local sport, you'll see kids

762
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 6: that trot it out and whatnot.

763
00:33:52,580 --> 00:33:53,300
Speaker 4: So it's everywhere.

764
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,740
Speaker 2: So my kids do it. My Jackie Brown did it

765
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 2: in the kitchen for me the other day. And to

766
00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 2: me it looked hard, but the kids make it look easy.

767
00:33:59,620 --> 00:34:02,700
Speaker 2: So I've got Jackie Brown, my teacher. I'm going to

768
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 2: put something forward, a little challenge for us. Give us

769
00:34:05,330 --> 00:34:09,470
Speaker 2: a Fortnite and Beck can film it for us to learn.

770
00:34:09,570 --> 00:34:11,910
Speaker 2: Each of us learn the gritty. Who does the best gritty?

771
00:34:12,090 --> 00:34:13,950
Speaker 2: And we can do it on TikTok. What do you think, Beck?

772
00:34:14,450 --> 00:34:14,629
Speaker 5: Yep.

773
00:34:14,930 --> 00:34:16,069
Speaker 2: Done. Done.

774
00:34:16,110 --> 00:34:16,820
Speaker 3: It's a competition.

775
00:34:17,380 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 1: Beck looks absolutely thrilled at the prospect.

776
00:34:20,300 --> 00:34:22,310
Speaker 4: He didn't know the gritty was.

777
00:34:22,340 --> 00:34:25,779
Speaker 2: The gritty. Hey, Beck, early market, who do you think

778
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 2: the favorite is to do the best gritty? Good question.

779
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:30,620
Speaker 3: Maybe Brodie actually.

780
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:31,090
Speaker 5: Thank you.

781
00:34:31,260 --> 00:34:31,620
Speaker 6: Thank you.

782
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 5: Oh, really?

783
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,690
Speaker 2: Twinkle toes. I'm looking forward to that. So we'll do

784
00:34:35,730 --> 00:34:37,149
Speaker 2: that in a couple of weeks. Make sure we don't

785
00:34:37,170 --> 00:34:39,290
Speaker 2: forget it like most things we say on this podcast.

786
00:34:39,950 --> 00:34:41,009
Speaker 1: All right, back in a second.

787
00:34:42,060 --> 00:34:45,180
Speaker 3: Welcome back to Brownies Podcast. Follow us at Brownies Podcast

788
00:34:45,260 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 3: on TikTok and Instagram. And two rounds left, but I've

789
00:34:48,540 --> 00:34:50,459
Speaker 3: been banging on about this for the last month.

790
00:34:50,780 --> 00:34:54,060
Speaker 1: Finals have really started already. Now, the big ones, John.

791
00:34:54,620 --> 00:34:58,819
Speaker 1: Giants-Frio in Sydney. Frio, they're pretty cooked if they don't

792
00:34:58,860 --> 00:34:59,259
Speaker 1: win this.

793
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,739
Speaker 2: Absolutely, yeah. It's a huge game, isn't it? Top four

794
00:35:03,780 --> 00:35:05,899
Speaker 2: potential game. The Giants are one of the form teams

795
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 2: of the comp, but they're tough. Tough as nails. That'll

796
00:35:08,540 --> 00:35:10,299
Speaker 2: be hard up there. I'm actually going to do that game.

797
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,370
Speaker 2: It's going to be fantastic. get up there, see it

798
00:35:13,410 --> 00:35:16,029
Speaker 2: all live, see Jesse Hogan, the best forward in the competition,

799
00:35:16,070 --> 00:35:19,029
Speaker 2: back at it. Sam Taylor's back into form. So I

800
00:35:19,050 --> 00:35:21,910
Speaker 2: can't see Freo beating the Giants over there. Doug?

801
00:35:23,010 --> 00:35:24,830
Speaker 5: I think that the Giants will be getting the job done.

802
00:35:24,850 --> 00:35:27,930
Speaker 5: They're in absolutely scintillating form. They timed their run well

803
00:35:27,969 --> 00:35:28,839
Speaker 5: like they did last year.

804
00:35:29,570 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 2: What about the Pies and the Lions? Is there any

805
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 2: retribution for the Lions? Does Faggs go back to this? Doug,

806
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,860
Speaker 2: now you worked under one of the great motivators of

807
00:35:37,900 --> 00:35:41,549
Speaker 2: all time in Alistair Clarkson. and Guy McKenna for a

808
00:35:41,590 --> 00:35:42,489
Speaker 2: shorter amount of time.

809
00:35:42,950 --> 00:35:44,890
Speaker 4: Not so much a great motivator.

810
00:35:45,070 --> 00:35:55,540
Speaker 2: But does Faggs go to the well? They play in

811
00:35:55,580 --> 00:35:59,359
Speaker 2: Collingwood at the MCG on Saturday afternoon. Does he go

812
00:35:59,380 --> 00:36:01,340
Speaker 2: to the well and show them the last two or

813
00:36:01,380 --> 00:36:04,090
Speaker 2: three minutes of the grand final? and the pain and

814
00:36:04,110 --> 00:36:07,089
Speaker 2: the despair of what Collingwood did to them on that

815
00:36:07,150 --> 00:36:08,370
Speaker 2: famous day in September.

816
00:36:08,530 --> 00:36:10,800
Speaker 4: Yep, I think you should. You should always tap into that.

817
00:36:11,140 --> 00:36:12,100
Speaker 4: They'd be well aware.

818
00:36:12,660 --> 00:36:15,240
Speaker 5: Every single player would have replayed it back a thousand

819
00:36:15,260 --> 00:36:17,060
Speaker 5: times in their head what they could have done differently.

820
00:36:17,540 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 5: But I reckon as a group... They should, this time

821
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,219
Speaker 5: of year, you really want to, you know, make a

822
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:26,170
Speaker 5: bit of a statement. The last couple of rounds leading

823
00:36:26,210 --> 00:36:28,130
Speaker 5: to finals, you want to be playing your best footy.

824
00:36:28,469 --> 00:36:30,270
Speaker 5: You want to be united. You want to have a

825
00:36:30,310 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 5: clear goal and vision. And I think that would be

826
00:36:33,420 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 5: outstanding to just... You know, just tap in a little

827
00:36:36,739 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 5: bit of their hurt and misery from, you know, nearly

828
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 5: 12 months ago.

829
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:44,419
Speaker 2: And great motivation. You're right, dog, because you want to

830
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 2: play well in the home of football. That's where the

831
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,950
Speaker 2: grand finals play. But also, too, you want to put

832
00:36:48,989 --> 00:36:52,509
Speaker 2: the final nail in the coffin to the team that

833
00:36:52,530 --> 00:36:54,529
Speaker 2: knocked you off in the grand final 12 months ago.

834
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:57,380
Speaker 4: It would hurt losing one. I never did.

835
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,980
Speaker 5: I only played in the one, you know. But the

836
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,009
Speaker 5: Hawthorne boys, even the ones that won two, three and

837
00:37:02,070 --> 00:37:06,009
Speaker 5: four flags, they still talk about 2012 when they lost

838
00:37:06,030 --> 00:37:08,450
Speaker 5: to Sydney. And the Geelong players still talk about 2008

839
00:37:08,450 --> 00:37:11,370
Speaker 5: when they lost to Hawthorne, even though they won plenty.

840
00:37:11,950 --> 00:37:13,710
Speaker 4: It never leaves you.

841
00:37:13,950 --> 00:37:16,130
Speaker 2: It never leaves you. It really fired us up, I know,

842
00:37:16,130 --> 00:37:18,720
Speaker 2: 12 months after we lost in 2004. We got beaten

843
00:37:18,739 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 2: by St Kilda by 22 goals in the last round

844
00:37:21,340 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 2: of the year. So it really drives you.

845
00:37:23,500 --> 00:37:26,799
Speaker 3: John, you never want your team to get to the

846
00:37:26,820 --> 00:37:29,060
Speaker 3: end of the year and go, can we mathematically make

847
00:37:29,100 --> 00:37:29,580
Speaker 3: the finals?

848
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,259
Speaker 1: That's where Collingwood are. So this is good. The MCG

849
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,450
Speaker 1: is going to be pumping. And if you guys lose this,

850
00:37:35,590 --> 00:37:38,450
Speaker 1: top four, mate, is not looking good.

851
00:37:38,530 --> 00:37:40,330
Speaker 2: You nearly kiss a goodbye, don't you? So it'd be

852
00:37:40,350 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 2: a shame for the Lions, who've done amazing things. the

853
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 2: last three months of the season. So you'd expect the

854
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:47,750
Speaker 2: Lions to get in there and win handsomely.

855
00:37:47,790 --> 00:37:49,610
Speaker 4: You would, but it's Collingwood.

856
00:37:49,630 --> 00:37:50,930
Speaker 1: They do this.

857
00:37:51,310 --> 00:37:54,509
Speaker 2: Well, not win handsomely. I probably should. I'm going to

858
00:37:54,530 --> 00:37:56,299
Speaker 2: walk that back like a lot of pundits have had

859
00:37:56,340 --> 00:37:59,340
Speaker 2: to do over the last few weeks. I'm going to

860
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:03,020
Speaker 2: walk it back like Brown Dog's comments because Collingwood's back

861
00:38:03,060 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 2: into form and they should have beaten Sydney up at,

862
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,850
Speaker 2: the SCG last Friday night. So that'll be a tough battle,

863
00:38:07,870 --> 00:38:09,509
Speaker 2: but I expect the Lions to get over the board.

864
00:38:09,550 --> 00:38:12,770
Speaker 5: The showdown should be massive, but I'm expecting Port Adelaide

865
00:38:13,150 --> 00:38:15,170
Speaker 5: to be too strong. There's too much at stake. They've

866
00:38:15,210 --> 00:38:18,370
Speaker 5: got too much firepower up for it. Adelaide will be

867
00:38:18,450 --> 00:38:22,009
Speaker 5: absolutely up for the contest, but probably a bit more

868
00:38:22,050 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 5: at stake for Port.

869
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,219
Speaker 2: The mids are up. I'm expecting an upset. I'm going

870
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,219
Speaker 2: to go for the upset there with Rankin back in

871
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 2: the side.

872
00:38:28,540 --> 00:38:28,700
Speaker 9: Shut up.

873
00:38:28,700 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 2: I'm going to call the upset.

874
00:38:29,580 --> 00:38:33,030
Speaker 1: Shut up. All right, it's time for Waterworld.

875
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,730
Speaker 5: Now, can you believe in this really cooked up universe

876
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Speaker 5: that we live in? Some people give their time, their effort,

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00:38:39,130 --> 00:38:41,750
Speaker 5: their energy for free. And anyone out there that gets

878
00:38:41,830 --> 00:38:46,110
Speaker 5: up every morning and goes every afternoon to be a lollipop,

879
00:38:48,370 --> 00:38:51,089
Speaker 5: does a great job. They don't get paid. They look

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00:38:51,170 --> 00:38:53,959
Speaker 5: after the safety of children as they cross the road

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Speaker 5: towards school. And Mr John Goulden, no relation to Errol,

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Speaker 5: he's been doing this for 20 years out at Mount

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Speaker 5: Dandenong Primary School.

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Speaker 4: They're looking after the kids as they cross the road.

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Speaker 4: Can you believe.

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Speaker 5: that a parent drove past and saw him high-fiving some

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Speaker 5: students as they were walking across the road and rang

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Speaker 5: up the Yarra Rangers Council and made a complaint. The

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Speaker 5: complaint was that he's jeopardising kids' and students' safety by

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Speaker 5: giving this high five. Now, the council stepped in to

891
00:39:29,130 --> 00:39:33,630
Speaker 5: remind this award-winning crossing supervisor about the expectations of the

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Speaker 5: role around working with children. He was told he couldn't

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Speaker 5: comment on it. There's now a petition of 250 parents

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Speaker 5: and children that have signed this petition saying, what are

895
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Speaker 5: we actually dealing with as a state? if you are

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Speaker 5: not allowed to high-five children as they cross the road.

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Speaker 5: And what I'm going to say to you, Dino, is

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Speaker 5: you wonder why all our kids are f * * *

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Speaker 5: ed in the head at the moment?

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Speaker 2: Are they?

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Speaker 1: Are they f * * * ed in the head?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they are. Because their parents are f * * *

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Speaker 4: ed in the head.

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Speaker 5: What sort of human being, what sort of parent would

905
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Speaker 5: see a high-five from a lollipop person and see it

906
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Speaker 5: as such a negative thing that it's jeopardising the safety.

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Speaker 4: Of these pupils? It's an absolute disgrace.

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Speaker 1: Victoria.

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Speaker 5: We're in debt up to our eyeballs. The treasurer, he

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Speaker 5: said we can't spend one more cent. We've got e-scooters

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Speaker 5: that are getting banned from the CBD because it's too safe.

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Speaker 4: What happened to the environmentalists out there? E-scooters are meant

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Speaker 4: to be good and saving the planet.

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Speaker 5: Now they're abolished and we can't even high-five Lollipop.

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Speaker 2: Well, not for Dino because he nearly got chased through

916
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Speaker 2: the park and nearly got killed by a lunatic.

917
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Speaker 4: When he was on his scooter.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 5: I don't know what's going on in this world, in

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Speaker 5: this state, but... Respect to lollipop people.

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Speaker 4: What a world.

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Speaker 3: I could not give less of a f * * *

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Speaker 3: about that lollipop man high-fiving kids.

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Speaker 4: Well, you should because that's how it starts, right? That's

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Speaker 4: how it starts.

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Speaker 5: People complain and you don't do anything about it and

927
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Speaker 5: then the whole society erodes around it because the lefties

928
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Speaker 5: decide to complain and one complaint changes everything.

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Speaker 4: Whole states, whole laws. So we need to stand up.

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Speaker 2: I think that's in the future, Brown Dog. Yeah, lollipop man.

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Speaker 2: Imagine Brown Dog as a lollipop man. He'd be the

932
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Speaker 2: greatest lollipop man ever.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and Warren Kappa's a picture of mental health. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: you should do that, man.

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Speaker 3: Also, I think Channel 7's the wrong network for you, man.

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Speaker 3: You should just be on Sky News.

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Speaker 1: That'd be sick.

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Speaker 4: Me and Rita Panahia are good friends.

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Speaker 1: Hey, boys, great to see you. Enjoy the footy this weekend, degenerates.

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Speaker 3: Rick, that's really poor feedback from the top of the show.

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Speaker 1: Brodie, all the best. Beck, love you.

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Speaker 2: Peace.