WEBVTT - Flashback Friday - The Questions We Never Usually Answer 0:00:05.921 --> 0:00:07.281 Appogiae Production. 0:00:10.921 --> 0:00:14.081 Welcome to the Sheep Risers Podcast. I'm Ashy and I'm Tiana. 0:00:14.361 --> 0:00:15.201 This podcast is. 0:00:15.201 --> 0:00:18.800 About female empowerment and encouraging you to be your biggest, boldest, 0:00:18.801 --> 0:00:20.800 and most authentic version of yourself. 0:00:20.961 --> 0:00:23.281 We help you shed the shame, grow to a new level. 0:00:23.321 --> 0:00:25.601 We're gonna laugh and cry and talk about the topics 0:00:25.881 --> 0:00:27.801 everyone else is too afraid to talk about. 0:00:28.401 --> 0:00:32.921 Get ready for your next level of self. What have 0:00:33.040 --> 0:00:34.121 you said to a troll? 0:00:34.321 --> 0:00:37.201 This is probably more for Ashy. What have you said 0:00:37.241 --> 0:00:39.120 to a troll that you probably shouldn't have? 0:00:39.400 --> 0:00:41.040 Oh, that's a good question. 0:00:41.921 --> 0:00:42.241 Hmmm. 0:00:43.400 --> 0:00:46.001 I don't know if it's anything directly that I've said, 0:00:46.040 --> 0:00:47.881 but I think I've just been a bit spicy back, 0:00:48.241 --> 0:00:50.280 like maybe just you know, you to take good look 0:00:50.281 --> 0:00:53.641 in the mirror, or I've been a bit passive, aggressive 0:00:53.961 --> 0:00:56.441 or sarcastic back to them. I don't think there's anything 0:00:56.481 --> 0:00:58.321 that really bad, Like I get told with my head 0:00:58.321 --> 0:01:00.241 in a blender, I get told to go walk in 0:01:00.241 --> 0:01:01.880 front of a bus, I get told go jump off 0:01:01.881 --> 0:01:05.361 a bridge. Never anything like that. It's more just like, Okay, 0:01:05.361 --> 0:01:08.041 the other day someone wrote a shit review. I didn't 0:01:08.041 --> 0:01:10.401 even say anything, actually, but I said to Tiana, like 0:01:10.441 --> 0:01:12.520 I'd love to say to them, like you're complaining about 0:01:12.560 --> 0:01:14.800 listening to me for the last fifteen years, yet you're 0:01:14.840 --> 0:01:17.761 still here fucking listening. Yeah, like, go get a live, 0:01:18.081 --> 0:01:20.680 go for a hobby. Why am I your hobby? Stuff 0:01:20.721 --> 0:01:22.601 like that. I think I've said over the years, like 0:01:22.601 --> 0:01:24.801 why are you here? Surely you have something better to 0:01:24.840 --> 0:01:26.921 do you on your Sunday morning. See, there's a little 0:01:26.920 --> 0:01:28.041 bit of attitude in there. 0:01:28.161 --> 0:01:29.441 Yeah, it was just like, you're not putting up for 0:01:29.481 --> 0:01:32.601 the bullshit coming online, coming onto your page where they 0:01:32.601 --> 0:01:33.280 don't have to be. 0:01:33.521 --> 0:01:35.481 But I should just block and delete. But sometimes I'm 0:01:35.521 --> 0:01:37.321 spicy and I'll just be like, well, what are you 0:01:37.321 --> 0:01:39.241 doing here? Like, surely you have a busy life. Don't 0:01:39.241 --> 0:01:40.881 you have kids to go be with instead of being 0:01:40.920 --> 0:01:41.641 on my page. 0:01:42.000 --> 0:01:44.321 You've also dealt with it for fifteen years. Yeah, so 0:01:44.360 --> 0:01:46.721 I could imagine that would push your buttons. Sometimes it's 0:01:46.761 --> 0:01:49.321 not often, but every now and again I'll add a 0:01:49.321 --> 0:01:51.641 little spicest definitely comes down and just like, no, fuck 0:01:51.681 --> 0:01:53.800 you and come on my page and disrespect me like that. 0:01:53.961 --> 0:01:54.281 Yeah. 0:01:54.321 --> 0:01:56.201 Does it ever continue into an argument back? 0:01:56.521 --> 0:01:58.800 No, don't allow it to because I'm just very protective 0:01:58.801 --> 0:02:00.201 of my energy, and I'm like, you don't deserve to 0:02:00.201 --> 0:02:01.561 be my page if that's what you're going to do. 0:02:02.121 --> 0:02:03.921 And most of the time I just block them, delete them. 0:02:03.921 --> 0:02:04.921 You can see when they're being a. 0:02:04.841 --> 0:02:07.001 Trip, yeah, when really looking for a fight. 0:02:07.241 --> 0:02:09.161 Yeah. But over the years and my fifteen years have 0:02:09.201 --> 0:02:11.321 I been back, for sure, but never anything to the 0:02:11.361 --> 0:02:13.481 extent that I look back, I'm like, holy shit, why 0:02:13.520 --> 0:02:14.081 did I say that? 0:02:14.520 --> 0:02:17.161 You know, what would you like to say to one 0:02:17.161 --> 0:02:19.441 of Ashy's trolls when they'd tell her to put her 0:02:19.441 --> 0:02:20.201 head in a blender? 0:02:20.401 --> 0:02:23.881 Tatiana initially wanted to be like, get fucked. That sounds 0:02:23.921 --> 0:02:26.201 so bad, but like that was my initial just response 0:02:26.201 --> 0:02:29.361 thing because I'm so protective of her, but also like 0:02:29.401 --> 0:02:31.801 what are you doing? Just honestly, like what are you doing? 0:02:31.800 --> 0:02:35.121 Like I genuinely hope that one day you find something 0:02:35.161 --> 0:02:37.361 that lights you up enough in life that you aren't 0:02:37.481 --> 0:02:41.081 here sitting at your home on a computer putting down 0:02:41.121 --> 0:02:43.081 someone who is doing everything that she can to create 0:02:43.121 --> 0:02:45.801 a fucking really good life for herself. Considering where she 0:02:45.841 --> 0:02:48.721 came from, that she actually had the balls big enough 0:02:48.800 --> 0:02:50.681 to go out and get where she fucking wanted in life. 0:02:50.761 --> 0:02:52.601 Like the fact that you're sitting there doing that to 0:02:52.641 --> 0:02:54.561 her just shows that maybe you wish that you could 0:02:54.601 --> 0:02:56.081 have done that in your life and you haven't yet 0:02:56.081 --> 0:02:57.841 done that, and she highlights that for you, So it's 0:02:57.881 --> 0:02:58.561 something to look at. 0:02:58.641 --> 0:03:00.721 I would love to just have a face to face conversation. 0:03:01.361 --> 0:03:03.681 I feel like within five minutes of them actually getting 0:03:03.680 --> 0:03:05.561 to know who I am and just talking to me, 0:03:05.921 --> 0:03:10.481 their assumptions about me would dissolve. I really do. I'd 0:03:10.520 --> 0:03:12.361 love to ask them and let them get out what 0:03:12.361 --> 0:03:15.081 they want to say and then talk about it. They'd 0:03:15.121 --> 0:03:17.481 realize a lot about themselves and a lot about the 0:03:18.201 --> 0:03:21.161 maybe noise that they've collectively heard or read or felt 0:03:21.240 --> 0:03:21.761 or assumed. 0:03:21.800 --> 0:03:23.041 I think it would dissolve very quickly. 0:03:23.161 --> 0:03:27.081 They'd almost be disappointed, like, oh, yeahh it's nice. I 0:03:27.121 --> 0:03:28.521 wasn't expecting there. Yeah. 0:03:28.680 --> 0:03:30.641 Sometimes as well, that's hard for people to look at 0:03:30.641 --> 0:03:32.601 because then they have to admit that they're at fault. Yeah. 0:03:32.641 --> 0:03:34.401 People don't like doing that, but you still do this. 0:03:34.441 --> 0:03:35.521 You still did that. 0:03:35.921 --> 0:03:39.721 Also, love just talking about and teaching about change. They 0:03:39.721 --> 0:03:41.521 hold onto things that I might have said or done 0:03:41.601 --> 0:03:43.921 fifteen years I'm like, oh my gosh, I was to 0:03:43.961 --> 0:03:45.561 go back and look at things that you've done with 0:03:45.601 --> 0:03:48.041 fifteen years ago, You're a be a completely different person now. 0:03:48.481 --> 0:03:51.761 Like allow people to evolve, grow and change, Like we 0:03:51.841 --> 0:03:53.921 all have to forgive ourselves for the mistakes that we made. 0:03:53.961 --> 0:03:55.761 We have to figure other people as well. You just 0:03:55.801 --> 0:03:56.921 know that's a part of their journey. 0:03:56.961 --> 0:03:57.160 Yeah. 0:03:57.601 --> 0:03:59.761 So yeah, but no one will ever meet up with me. 0:03:59.801 --> 0:04:00.481 I've tried over the. 0:04:00.521 --> 0:04:03.641 Years because they don't want to be proven wrong, or 0:04:03.681 --> 0:04:04.441 it's embarrassing to. 0:04:04.401 --> 0:04:04.801 Be a troll. 0:04:05.201 --> 0:04:07.601 It is because then I have to own it. Yeah, 0:04:07.721 --> 0:04:08.121 own it. 0:04:08.241 --> 0:04:09.721 That's not cool to be known as a troll. Why 0:04:09.721 --> 0:04:12.481 do they have no photos on their profile? Because they're embarrassed. 0:04:12.481 --> 0:04:13.401 They don't want show you they are. 0:04:13.641 --> 0:04:16.521 People get uncomfortable with the face to face. People only 0:04:16.521 --> 0:04:19.121 comfortable because it's behind a screen and they're tired, so 0:04:19.201 --> 0:04:22.001 they can say the most unfiltered thing because there's no repercussions, 0:04:22.081 --> 0:04:24.721 or they believe that there's no consequence or repercussion for 0:04:24.801 --> 0:04:27.481 what they're choosing to do. But if they had every 0:04:27.521 --> 0:04:31.041 single person that they respected, loved, valued, cared about, or 0:04:31.161 --> 0:04:35.161 inspired by sitting there watching them while they're trolling, somebody 0:04:35.201 --> 0:04:37.121 who's doing good, they would be so ashamed. 0:04:37.601 --> 0:04:39.521 And it's not to make you feel shame or judgment 0:04:39.521 --> 0:04:39.841 if this. 0:04:39.801 --> 0:04:42.561 Is something that you're doing, but it's just recognizing, like 0:04:43.041 --> 0:04:45.281 would you actually be proud of the choices that you're 0:04:45.281 --> 0:04:48.281 making if you were fully aware of how that might 0:04:48.320 --> 0:04:50.041 impact you in your life, you wouldn't. 0:04:50.241 --> 0:04:53.121 It's like leaving a Google review, Like you're happy to 0:04:53.201 --> 0:04:55.841 leave a Google review telling a restaurant that their meal 0:04:55.921 --> 0:04:57.681 was shit, but you didn't say it at the time 0:04:57.721 --> 0:04:59.400 when you were yes, wrong. 0:04:59.401 --> 0:05:01.721 Right, it was a restaurant, and probably you appreciate the 0:05:01.761 --> 0:05:04.761 feedback if you were like, hey, my stake was really undercooked, 0:05:04.880 --> 0:05:07.521 or this felt raw, or this had hair in it. 0:05:07.561 --> 0:05:09.761 You'd rather get told face to face and be able 0:05:09.761 --> 0:05:12.320 to make the improvements, offer a free meal or discount 0:05:12.361 --> 0:05:13.241 for next time they come. 0:05:13.401 --> 0:05:15.001 But there's a way to do it, Yeah, there is, 0:05:15.161 --> 0:05:16.921 Like what you were just saying when you were sharing that, 0:05:16.961 --> 0:05:17.921 I was like, there's a way. 0:05:17.801 --> 0:05:19.001 To do it. It's like anything in life. 0:05:19.761 --> 0:05:22.641 Communicators and not expecting that other people can't handle your 0:05:22.681 --> 0:05:23.401 honest feedback. 0:05:23.521 --> 0:05:25.121 Yes, you know, one. 0:05:25.201 --> 0:05:27.201 Hundred percent is always a way to communicate it. Can 0:05:27.201 --> 0:05:29.001 you've done kindly and effectively. 0:05:28.641 --> 0:05:29.921 And then I'm over here like, fuck off. 0:05:31.121 --> 0:05:33.241 You don't actually do that though, No, I doubt you. 0:05:33.561 --> 0:05:35.761 Get to clive of you and you. 0:05:35.721 --> 0:05:36.961 Can feel angry in the moment. 0:05:37.121 --> 0:05:38.281 Yeah, you know that's normal. 0:05:38.481 --> 0:05:42.001 Next question, is there an influencer that you wish you 0:05:42.001 --> 0:05:42.801 were friends with? 0:05:44.201 --> 0:05:46.161 The first person that comes to mind is Leila Harmosey. 0:05:46.641 --> 0:05:47.361 Yeah you love her? 0:05:47.561 --> 0:05:48.081 Do you love her? 0:05:48.841 --> 0:05:50.960 I would love to be a fly on the wall. 0:05:51.281 --> 0:05:54.081 Her perspective, her mindset, the way that she does business. 0:05:54.161 --> 0:05:57.841 She's got like a billion dollar empire and come from nothing, 0:05:57.880 --> 0:06:00.921 no money, you know, had to basically fend for herself 0:06:00.921 --> 0:06:03.121 and had a really hard upbringing to where she is now. 0:06:03.121 --> 0:06:04.761 I just find it really inspiring, and. 0:06:04.641 --> 0:06:06.641 I just I have a lot of respect for her 0:06:06.681 --> 0:06:08.161 and what I see her do and the way she 0:06:08.241 --> 0:06:12.921 navigates not only business, but emotions relationships. There are a 0:06:12.921 --> 0:06:14.801 lot of beautiful things that I see her do and 0:06:14.801 --> 0:06:17.361 she's just got this, like, she emulates a lot of strength. 0:06:17.921 --> 0:06:19.681 If I could, I would love to have a conversation 0:06:19.761 --> 0:06:21.161 with her, and yeah, be a. 0:06:21.161 --> 0:06:21.801 Fly on the wall. 0:06:22.041 --> 0:06:25.200 I think that I've always really liked Witnessmans. She's a 0:06:25.481 --> 0:06:28.521 US influencer. She has a help and venus app and 0:06:29.201 --> 0:06:31.481 she told her story of her upbringing and she has 0:06:31.521 --> 0:06:34.921 really bad psoriasis, and she's gone through depression and the 0:06:34.961 --> 0:06:37.640 online world, and I think maybe I find relatability in 0:06:37.641 --> 0:06:39.881 her story as well, going through a lot of grief 0:06:39.880 --> 0:06:42.681 at the moment, she's lost someone to cancer, and she's 0:06:42.681 --> 0:06:46.241 just very honest and real and humble and just seems 0:06:46.241 --> 0:06:48.121 like a really beautiful person. I think she'd be really 0:06:48.201 --> 0:06:49.401 nice vibe to be around. 0:06:49.521 --> 0:06:52.961 What would you do if social media died tomorrow gone? 0:06:53.081 --> 0:06:55.081 Well, when we went to eat and retreat, I really 0:06:55.081 --> 0:06:57.401 love not having my phone. I think I would really 0:06:57.481 --> 0:07:00.161 enjoy your life without my phone. I love it and 0:07:00.201 --> 0:07:02.121 I'm addicited to it and it gives me all these 0:07:02.161 --> 0:07:06.121 opportunities and it's fun and every single day. But I 0:07:06.161 --> 0:07:09.241 also loved how peaceful I felt not having a phone, 0:07:09.361 --> 0:07:13.081 so I'd kind of accept it. But work wise, I mean, 0:07:13.121 --> 0:07:15.681 I hope we could still do the podcast and retreats. 0:07:15.681 --> 0:07:17.161 But does something. Podcasts are not a thing. 0:07:17.481 --> 0:07:19.521 Podcasts are still a thing that you can't promote it 0:07:19.561 --> 0:07:21.521 on social media. There's no socials. 0:07:22.001 --> 0:07:24.321 Hopefully we've built our podcasts up enough to continue to go, 0:07:24.481 --> 0:07:27.961 keep going, and your in person stuff. But yeah, retreats, workshops, 0:07:28.161 --> 0:07:30.841 in person events. Hopefully we can still sell tickets without 0:07:31.041 --> 0:07:33.921 social media. I've always wanted to be a dog washer. 0:07:33.961 --> 0:07:35.961 I don't think I'll do that anymore, though that was 0:07:35.961 --> 0:07:38.281 always a dream of mine. But even when I walk 0:07:38.281 --> 0:07:40.241 into a health food store, I could so see myself 0:07:40.281 --> 0:07:41.401 working in health food store. 0:07:41.881 --> 0:07:42.201 Love that. 0:07:42.401 --> 0:07:43.441 I love health food stores. 0:07:43.561 --> 0:07:43.921 I don't know. 0:07:43.921 --> 0:07:46.041 Maybe if I ever had to get like a normal 0:07:46.081 --> 0:07:48.081 job again, que quote normal job, That's probably where I 0:07:48.121 --> 0:07:51.361 would go interesting about you, what would do a normal. 0:07:51.721 --> 0:07:54.721 I think initially, like if social media were to die tomorrow, 0:07:54.881 --> 0:07:58.361 I would probably feel a lot of withdrawal at first, 0:07:58.681 --> 0:08:00.801 Like I think I would be pretty devastated and gutted 0:08:00.801 --> 0:08:03.561 because in the opportunity that social media does present, and 0:08:03.601 --> 0:08:06.601 also that feeling of feeling connect to everyone. I remember 0:08:06.601 --> 0:08:09.561 when I did a social media detox like six weeks, 0:08:09.921 --> 0:08:12.521 and I remember initially feeling, holy shit, I'm actually not 0:08:12.561 --> 0:08:14.521 as connected to people that as I thought I was, 0:08:14.561 --> 0:08:17.241 because I'm plugging into everyone's lives, watching what they're doing, 0:08:17.561 --> 0:08:19.641 but I'm not actually calling them, I'm not going and 0:08:19.681 --> 0:08:22.561 seeing them, And I think initially I would feel that 0:08:22.641 --> 0:08:24.281 disappointment and that feeling. 0:08:24.081 --> 0:08:25.641 Of like, oh, like whatever. 0:08:25.841 --> 0:08:27.921 But I think with time I would adjust back to 0:08:28.041 --> 0:08:30.241 normal life as well, you know, and I think I 0:08:30.241 --> 0:08:32.201 would love it. It would be peaceful, like what you said, 0:08:32.601 --> 0:08:35.641 you'd be so present in your everyday life and it 0:08:35.641 --> 0:08:36.521 would just be normal. 0:08:36.601 --> 0:08:37.601 But what job would you do? 0:08:38.161 --> 0:08:39.001 Real estate agent? 0:08:39.201 --> 0:08:39.441 Oh? 0:08:39.521 --> 0:08:40.721 Yeah, yes, that you're doing that. 0:08:40.961 --> 0:08:42.961 Yeah, I even started that, like a couple of years back. 0:08:42.961 --> 0:08:45.161 I started to go through that process just because I've 0:08:45.161 --> 0:08:47.761 been in building in construction for my whole life. 0:08:47.801 --> 0:08:48.201 That's cool. 0:08:48.281 --> 0:08:50.601 So it's really like an avenue that I feel confident 0:08:50.641 --> 0:08:52.921 and competent in and I think I could really expand 0:08:52.921 --> 0:08:55.121 and that I think i'd have fun. I'd loving that, 0:08:55.241 --> 0:08:57.521 being able to communicate with new people, make connections, you 0:08:57.641 --> 0:09:01.481 love all relationships, get to see beautiful houses. I love 0:09:01.921 --> 0:09:04.041 interior design and all that sort of stuff. So I 0:09:04.081 --> 0:09:05.641 feel like i'd really have fun with that. 0:09:05.641 --> 0:09:06.161 That's cool. 0:09:06.241 --> 0:09:08.241 Yeah, what about how it would make you feel in 0:09:08.321 --> 0:09:09.801 terms of losing your audience. 0:09:10.161 --> 0:09:12.401 I mean, it's really nice to get all those messages, 0:09:12.441 --> 0:09:14.281 but I also don't rely on it for a source 0:09:14.281 --> 0:09:17.481 of validation, so I think i'd be Okay. It is 0:09:17.561 --> 0:09:19.121 really nice and it's a nice stroke to my eg 0:09:19.161 --> 0:09:21.161 and it's good to hear feedback of what I do 0:09:21.201 --> 0:09:23.841 and what I say and how that impacts them. But yeah, 0:09:23.841 --> 0:09:25.761 I feel like I don't rely on that, so I 0:09:25.761 --> 0:09:28.001 think I'd be okay, but I would miss the connection. 0:09:28.081 --> 0:09:30.801 I miss the variety, the miss the fun. Social media 0:09:30.801 --> 0:09:32.961 is quite fun for me, apart from the hate, it's 0:09:33.001 --> 0:09:35.961 quite fun. So I think i'd miss that aspect, especially TikTok. 0:09:36.001 --> 0:09:36.641 It's just so fun. 0:09:36.721 --> 0:09:37.361 Yeah, it is fun. 0:09:37.481 --> 0:09:41.321 Yeah, what is one thing that people don't know about you? 0:09:41.681 --> 0:09:44.041 It would have been and you've talked about it, so 0:09:44.121 --> 0:09:46.881 people do know now, but Tiana being a tady. 0:09:46.841 --> 0:09:48.321 Yeap one hundred percent. 0:09:48.601 --> 0:09:50.281 Yeah, people not knowing that. I don't talk about it 0:09:50.321 --> 0:09:53.001 that often at all. Really on social media. I have 0:09:53.121 --> 0:09:55.401 little bits and bobs, but not really if it just 0:09:55.401 --> 0:09:57.921 feels like such like a past life now. But literally 0:09:57.961 --> 0:10:00.401 worked on site for like five years, got my carpentry 0:10:00.521 --> 0:10:02.801 my trade when I was by the time I was 0:10:02.841 --> 0:10:05.681 fully qualified by the time I was nineteen, started in 0:10:05.721 --> 0:10:08.761 school surrounded by a job site full of all men, 0:10:08.921 --> 0:10:11.401 just me and my sister and all men. It was Yeah, 0:10:11.481 --> 0:10:13.521 it was a whole experience. Taught me a lot about life, 0:10:13.561 --> 0:10:16.921 that's for sure, and like hard work, dedication, discipline. 0:10:18.361 --> 0:10:21.881 Do you still do the odd carpentry job for people? 0:10:22.001 --> 0:10:22.921 Absolutely not. 0:10:23.241 --> 0:10:24.881 I remember saying to my last part, like, don't ask 0:10:24.921 --> 0:10:26.801 me to hang a painting, Like I'm not gonna fucking 0:10:26.841 --> 0:10:28.481 do it. 0:10:28.561 --> 0:10:31.321 I just it's so done. Yeah, it's so done. 0:10:31.361 --> 0:10:33.761 It doesn't even feel like a part of who I 0:10:33.801 --> 0:10:34.401 am anymore. 0:10:34.441 --> 0:10:34.601 You know. 0:10:34.641 --> 0:10:36.561 I feel like before I used to really use it 0:10:36.601 --> 0:10:38.121 as a way to like get a bit of an 0:10:38.121 --> 0:10:40.241 ego hit because I got to prove my worth and 0:10:40.321 --> 0:10:42.801 like what I was capable of through that job, and 0:10:42.841 --> 0:10:44.641 a lot of that was like wanting to prove even 0:10:44.681 --> 0:10:45.881 to my dad that I was capable. 0:10:45.881 --> 0:10:46.041 You know. 0:10:46.121 --> 0:10:48.881 He had like he's got four girls, right, and like 0:10:48.961 --> 0:10:50.521 who's going to take over the family business? 0:10:50.801 --> 0:10:53.681 His son was like the last child, so he was always. 0:10:53.401 --> 0:10:56.401 Younger, so like, oh, we'll take on the family business, 0:10:56.441 --> 0:10:57.561 like even though we're girls. 0:10:57.801 --> 0:11:00.321 And it was like this proving energy. But I did 0:11:00.321 --> 0:11:01.921 get a lot out of it, so I'm grateful for it. 0:11:03.041 --> 0:11:05.921 Probably something I haven't really spoken about up until recently, 0:11:05.961 --> 0:11:08.121 and then I'm actually like why the fuck do I care? 0:11:08.561 --> 0:11:10.361 Is when I broke up with my first boyfriends. I 0:11:10.441 --> 0:11:14.161 must have been eighteen. I worked behind bars in wa 0:11:14.441 --> 0:11:16.401 and what they call a skimpy bar maids, So you 0:11:16.481 --> 0:11:18.121 just wear like a skimpy outfit and they give you 0:11:18.161 --> 0:11:20.641 tips and you make bank working. 0:11:20.401 --> 0:11:20.801 By a bar. 0:11:21.481 --> 0:11:22.761 And I used to carry shame for it. 0:11:22.841 --> 0:11:22.921 Then. 0:11:23.081 --> 0:11:25.441 Honestly, the girls at Sin City and Bedroom, which is 0:11:25.481 --> 0:11:27.121 two of the big nightclubs on the Gold Coast, we 0:11:27.161 --> 0:11:28.561 we wore more clothes than the girls than the Gold 0:11:28.601 --> 0:11:32.161 Coast do. Yeah, like they were literally in bras and undies. Bedroom, Yeah, 0:11:32.241 --> 0:11:34.841 Bedroom nightclub. But yeah, me and a bunch of girlfriends 0:11:34.881 --> 0:11:36.761 went over there and it was just staying on the 0:11:36.761 --> 0:11:38.521 Gold Coast. I kept going back to my ex, even 0:11:38.561 --> 0:11:39.801 though I knew I didn't want to be with him. 0:11:39.801 --> 0:11:42.001 It was just company and I just could watch his 0:11:42.041 --> 0:11:44.321 heartbreak every time I would go in and come out 0:11:44.321 --> 0:11:46.481 and go in and come out. So I just packed 0:11:46.561 --> 0:11:48.201 up and moved over there with a bunch of girlfriends 0:11:48.201 --> 0:11:49.601 and I had a lot of guy friends over there 0:11:49.601 --> 0:11:51.881 that worked in the mines. And I spent about six 0:11:51.921 --> 0:11:55.801 months working over there, making an absolute killing, And then 0:11:55.801 --> 0:11:58.081 met Steve online and came back to meet him and 0:11:58.081 --> 0:12:00.521 met him and never went back so yeah, it was 0:12:00.521 --> 0:12:02.441 a crazy time in my life. It was really fun 0:12:02.481 --> 0:12:04.281 and it was fun just to it didn't work that 0:12:04.321 --> 0:12:06.441 many hours, worked like twenty hours a week and make 0:12:06.481 --> 0:12:07.161 ten twenty grand. 0:12:07.361 --> 0:12:07.601 Yeah. 0:12:07.641 --> 0:12:08.761 They're just men over there, just. 0:12:08.761 --> 0:12:11.561 Tipped like crazy. Yeah. I was never a topless waiter yeah, 0:12:11.641 --> 0:12:13.761 or topless bar girl. There was the pub that I 0:12:13.841 --> 0:12:15.521 worked out, and then there was one next to it 0:12:15.561 --> 0:12:17.481 with their topless girls were I never did that. I 0:12:17.601 --> 0:12:20.321 just didn't have the confidence too. But yeah, it was fun. 0:12:20.321 --> 0:12:22.681 It was a cool time in my life. Fun different 0:12:22.761 --> 0:12:25.961 be out at home and just make make bank. Yeah, 0:12:25.961 --> 0:12:27.681 and a lots of holidays. Took my friends on holidays, 0:12:27.801 --> 0:12:30.001 paid off some bills. I think because I never took 0:12:30.041 --> 0:12:32.201 my top off and I was never a flirty bar made. 0:12:32.241 --> 0:12:35.081 I was more the guy's mates. I got tipped a 0:12:35.121 --> 0:12:37.161 lot better than a lot of the other girls because 0:12:37.161 --> 0:12:39.681 I was quite friends with them, and I also felt 0:12:39.681 --> 0:12:42.121 really protected, Like I think it's quite a dangerous job 0:12:42.121 --> 0:12:44.121 for girls, like if you don't have people there, whereas 0:12:44.241 --> 0:12:45.841 I had a lot of guy friends there that were 0:12:45.881 --> 0:12:47.521 protecting me. So I would get dropped off and picked 0:12:47.561 --> 0:12:49.681 up every shift, whereas a lot of girls would stay 0:12:49.761 --> 0:12:52.601 upstairs in the bar, or like walk home, and there 0:12:52.601 --> 0:12:54.241 was some stuff that happened to a lot of women, 0:12:54.281 --> 0:12:56.561 but I always felt I was just friends with everyone. 0:12:56.721 --> 0:12:57.801 Yeah, it was cool. 0:12:58.001 --> 0:12:59.721 So I haven't really ever spoken about that because it 0:12:59.721 --> 0:13:01.801 was embarrassed now and every now and again because you 0:13:01.841 --> 0:13:03.361 have to have a different name. So my name was 0:13:03.401 --> 0:13:06.081 Pam over their pants bring now and again or do 0:13:06.121 --> 0:13:07.961 a Q and A and someone will write how you 0:13:08.001 --> 0:13:09.041 go on Pam, and I'm. 0:13:08.881 --> 0:13:12.601 Like, oh, duge it, Oh my god, I. 0:13:12.481 --> 0:13:15.961 Come hide from that. Yeah, but now I'm like, oh, 0:13:15.961 --> 0:13:18.721 why do I care so much? It was actually like, yeah, 0:13:18.921 --> 0:13:22.961 sixteen years and it's just a little chapter. So what's 0:13:23.041 --> 0:13:26.121 the most you've ever been paid for a social media post? 0:13:26.641 --> 0:13:29.401 One singular post is fifteen thousand dollars, it's most have 0:13:29.441 --> 0:13:33.041 been paid. My average was like ten thousand consistently, and 0:13:33.081 --> 0:13:35.041 then it depends if you go now it's like real 0:13:35.201 --> 0:13:38.681 story set stories are now one set can be three frames, 0:13:38.721 --> 0:13:41.801 another set can be five frames. TikTok, I don't really 0:13:41.801 --> 0:13:43.361 get paid on tikto. I don't get any jobs book 0:13:43.401 --> 0:13:46.481 for TikTok, but Instagram and Snapchat. Yeah, my biggest was 0:13:46.521 --> 0:13:49.041 fifteen thousand dollars. Wow, Yeah, that's cool. 0:13:49.281 --> 0:13:52.761 Would you rather be rich and ugly or poor and hot? 0:13:53.921 --> 0:13:57.321 Wait, richie reach ugly or poor and hot richie ugly 0:13:57.321 --> 0:13:59.921 because ugly don't get worked done. 0:14:00.921 --> 0:14:03.601 I'll go visit botox stuffy. 0:14:03.121 --> 0:14:06.281 Flip it's so good. Yeah, which and ugly for sure? 0:14:06.441 --> 0:14:06.641 Yeah. 0:14:06.721 --> 0:14:08.321 I feel like just a funner life. If you had 0:14:08.361 --> 0:14:10.681 more money, you're poor, you can't do anything. You're hotter 0:14:10.721 --> 0:14:11.201 when you got. 0:14:12.841 --> 0:14:13.401 Well, you know. 0:14:13.481 --> 0:14:15.521 I mean, have you seen Jeff bezos is with that 0:14:15.641 --> 0:14:16.241 younger girl? 0:14:16.281 --> 0:14:18.961 Now he's what's the name she just went to space 0:14:19.321 --> 0:14:21.361 Lauren Sanchez or something like that. I only just saw 0:14:21.361 --> 0:14:23.521 it on Instagram the other day. But he was previously 0:14:23.561 --> 0:14:26.001 with his other wife that he'd been with for forever 0:14:26.441 --> 0:14:28.001 and then they had a divorce how to split? And 0:14:28.001 --> 0:14:29.281 now he's with like some young woman. 0:14:29.481 --> 0:14:33.401 Yeah, you know what I mean. So I'm like, that's 0:14:33.401 --> 0:14:34.041 so funny. 0:14:34.761 --> 0:14:36.761 Who's the most famous person you have in your phone? 0:14:37.041 --> 0:14:39.961 Ash? 0:14:40.001 --> 0:14:42.241 I think I have anyone famous in my phone? He's 0:14:42.281 --> 0:14:44.601 not that roll. No, but Brian Reeves who went viral 0:14:44.681 --> 0:14:46.881 on social media for a while. He was my relationship coach. 0:14:47.521 --> 0:14:50.361 Otherwise not I think. So I've known someone that's had 0:14:50.401 --> 0:14:54.161 sex with Channing Tatum. Cool. 0:14:54.961 --> 0:14:57.841 Katie loves it. She's nodding and Si I loved her 0:14:57.881 --> 0:15:00.761 and she told me. I'm like, oh my god, yeah 0:15:01.041 --> 0:15:01.481 that's cool. 0:15:01.521 --> 0:15:04.281 Did she see her me an yeah multiple times? 0:15:04.641 --> 0:15:05.521 And then what happened? 0:15:05.801 --> 0:15:08.121 It just went off? And did his career in life? 0:15:08.721 --> 0:15:12.601