1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: Five double A nice with Matthew pantalas something to Richard 2 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 1: Pasco here in the corridors of five double A earlier today, 3 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: and i'd seen his Facebook post to this effect. Somebody's 4 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:15,319 Speaker 1: been I suppose stealing his identity is the best way 5 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 1: of putting it, giving him a whole lot of qualifications 6 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: in the meantime, I know that's the desired result here, 7 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 1: Richard Pasco. 8 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:26,120 Speaker 2: Hello, Yeah, good evening, Matthew, and good evening to all 9 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 2: listeners out there. Somebody's out there imitating me. So what's 10 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 2: happened at the moment is that I get up in 11 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 2: the morning and I've got emails sudents sitting there from 12 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 2: lawyers saying they can either assist me or not assist 13 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 2: me with basically taking five double A to court because 14 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 2: they supposedly owe me one hundred and seventy five thousand dollars, 15 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 2: which they don't. People know, wonderful employers got to say 16 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 2: that right up front. 17 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: I reckon I mode that much, though. 18 00:00:56,680 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 2: Richard, Well, we can find a lawyer for we there, 19 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:06,119 Speaker 2: but it's just it's and so I've had that from 20 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 2: several lawyers, and look, I've got to take time out 21 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:11,959 Speaker 2: to contact them back, and some have said we've got 22 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 2: people who can help you, or we've got people that can't. 23 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 2: So I've got to knock all that on the head. 24 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 2: And this morning I got up to that I've got 25 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 2: along and inquired about being a boost Juice franchise owner. 26 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 1: Wow, well see on the top of that. So somebody's 27 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: writing to people saying you rode this or you're a 28 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 1: boost Juice oigner. Is that what it is? 29 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 2: And today I was supposed to be in Burke Street 30 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 2: Mall from ten thirty in David Jones. This got sent 31 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 2: to three a w book signing my latest book, Lost 32 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 2: in Taxlation. 33 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 1: That's a good title if you ever get around the 34 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 1: writing a book like I do that. 35 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 2: So I had nothing to do with this. So what 36 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 2: this person is doing is using what happens well like 37 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 2: a web portal on there. So you know, it's a 38 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 2: standard thing. If you want to send a company an email, 39 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 2: you put an email address in there and put all 40 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 2: the crappy want to stay underneath now for it, And 41 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 2: a lot of times it will get knocked off as 42 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 2: spam because you know, all the qualifications on that were 43 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 2: set on the bottom of one of the emails on 44 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 2: there should have basically put that into spam and I 45 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 2: talked to the lawyer for the legal firm about that 46 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 2: and they agree with me. So I haven't done it. 47 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 2: But one of the legal firms out there was actually 48 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 2: able to get the person who sent this their IP address. 49 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 2: So we'll get a bit ticky here for a moment. 50 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 2: So the IP address is like your telephone number, but 51 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:48,399 Speaker 2: when people have got that, they can track down where 52 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 2: you come from. So I thought, this is a good idea, 53 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 2: we can do this. So I found out the Internet 54 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:57,519 Speaker 2: service provider today is either Dodo or I primus of 55 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 2: it to the people that control them. They're actually in 56 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 2: Flinders Street in the city. Lovely woman there said, you know, 57 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 2: if you come up, legal paperwork will gladly help you 58 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 2: track this person down. But I took all this to 59 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 2: the police this afternoon and they went, change your email address. 60 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 2: That's all we can do. Really, So SOMEDAYUBT they're imitating 61 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 2: me and this all just got shut down as far 62 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 2: as they're concerned. But unfortunately, you know what, I'm like, 63 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 2: I'm like a dog for the body. I Am not 64 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 2: going to let this go okay, So I'm going to 65 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 2: run after I will be trying to track down a 66 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 2: lawyer tomorrow. So I've got several and ones with the 67 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:44,119 Speaker 2: station on there, try and find out something who can 68 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 2: go along and track this IP address down so this 69 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 2: person can be you know, maybe we can charge them. 70 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, well hopefully because what are they They're not 71 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: after money or anything, are they? Or I presume they're not. 72 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 2: No, no, just trying to just a new sage trying 73 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 2: to damage my reputation. And I worked too hard and 74 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 2: too long today for this. Yeah, so you know, to me, 75 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 2: you know, it's it's it's just annoying getting up in 76 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 2: the morning, stayable. Now we've got another lawyer. I've got 77 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 2: to sit there and ring and get them to ring back. 78 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 2: And you've explained the whole story to them for it, 79 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 2: you know, and this morning boost his franchise and the 80 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 2: Burt Street more one. So but I was just I 81 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:37,039 Speaker 2: was disappointed in the police's attitude. And but well maybe 82 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 2: if you go to another station you might get a 83 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:39,799 Speaker 2: better response. 84 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: Huh how about that? Yeah, So I try your luck 85 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: with with different police. Yep, what can they do realistically? 86 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 2: Well, if they've well to me, they should have had 87 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 2: to go along if go along, they've got the IP address, 88 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 2: they can go along and get the person's name and address, 89 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 2: go around and knock on the door and say we're 90 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 2: going to charge you with this. 91 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, well what can what could he be charged with? Impersonation? 92 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: I suppose I. 93 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 2: Think it's impersonation. Yeah, so you know, once once, I've 94 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 2: got to call it. You know, I've got a couple 95 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 2: of people tell me that whoever's doing this can be 96 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 2: charged criminal offense. No long and do this. But I've 97 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 2: got to I've got to find the exact letter of 98 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:24,159 Speaker 2: the law. So I've got to spend time going to 99 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 2: a lawyer to get all of this done. 100 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: There. Yeah, wow, what's your advice for anyone? Just again, lawyer, 101 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 1: lawyer up? 102 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 2: I suppose lawyer right, But you know, I think, you know, 103 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 2: you know, I understand the police are busy, but I 104 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 2: did all the I did all the legwork. 105 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: For them police, you know, police honestly, and and insurance 106 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 1: companies too. We had a theft and because it was 107 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,919 Speaker 1: a trade e and like the police didn't want to 108 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: know because and the insurance company the same because we 109 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 1: invited them in. 110 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:55,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm. 111 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:59,359 Speaker 1: Thinking, but hang on, it's theft it isn't this your job? Nope, 112 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: you invited him in. And the same with the insurance companies. 113 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: So needless to say that insurance company is in the bin. 114 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: And and for the police, very disappointing. 115 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 2: Frankly, Look it is, but you know I'm going to 116 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 2: keep pursuing this. That the person's listening tonight, i'd stop 117 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 2: doing it, and there is going to be a knock 118 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 2: on your door. 119 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:20,719 Speaker 1: All right, how do you find the IP address? 120 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 2: I had the legal firm that did it. Was able 121 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 2: to go along and when it comes into from the 122 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 2: web portal or into their system on there, you had 123 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 2: to go back out of the emails, go into the system. 124 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 2: Was able to pull it off, okay, how long and 125 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 2: grab it, which was really nice. And when I faked 126 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 2: him immensely for going along and doing it. 127 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 1: Goodness, all right, Well there it is so unusual, I suppose, 128 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 1: but not in this day and age. Totally surprising, is it. 129 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: I mean, it's terrible and it happens, but it is 130 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: a factor of living in twenty twenty five. Sadly that 131 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 1: people behave like this. 132 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 2: It is, and you know, just for people out there, 133 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 2: you know who go along, and so many businesses have 134 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 2: got web pages where they can go in and just 135 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 2: send an inquiry, and I've got one online, you know 136 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 2: for that. Just be aware that if you think it's 137 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 2: funny to go along and do that sort of thing, 138 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 2: you can be caught. 139 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, well there we are simple as that, Richard. 140 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: Good luck. I hope they desist. But I mean the 141 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: first time, and I've only seen the one post, and 142 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 1: it was a few days back, and you were kind 143 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: of talking about the qualification save give. I think you're 144 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: an MP, a member. 145 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 2: Of par was I don't think I'm up for election 146 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 2: this next I was a member of all these different 147 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 2: societies and person. It's gone to a great lengths to 148 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 2: put all that crap up there, you know about it. 149 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 2: But you know, it's a lesson for people out there 150 00:07:57,400 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 2: just to be really careful about this sort of thing. 151 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 2: And if you run a business, you know, on the 152 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 2: back end of your website, it should have all been 153 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,239 Speaker 2: grabbed and put into spam. Should never have happened. 154 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. 155 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 2: And doesn't look like they're going to stop. 156 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: Well all right, well, good luck Richard, and hopefully you 157 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 1: get to the bottom of it and maybe them police 158 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 1: can act. 159 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 2: We hope. So we'll keep the updated. 160 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: Now, good on you, thank you, good luck. Gee, how awful. 161 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: And who's got to let alone the stress of dealing 162 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: with that, who's got the time and everything else? Well, 163 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: you've got to make the time because it's it's serious 164 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 1: and it's harassment. I would have thought, and police, come on, 165 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 1: I know, I know you're busy. I know there's not 166 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:47,439 Speaker 1: enough of you, but things like this, do your job 167 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: and it is your job. Not well, nothing we can do. 168 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: Change your email address. Well he could do that, but 169 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: that's it's not going to help. Ultimately, it's not going 170 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 1: to stop the person being a pain.