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Speaker 1: On scor MS Australia.

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Speaker 2: This is the Winner Panalty Show.

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Speaker 3: Good evening and welcome to the Riata Panicky Show. Coming

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Speaker 3: up tonight, A former defense minister warns that Ben Roberts

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Speaker 3: Smith's arrest will have dramatic effects on the Australian Defense

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Speaker 3: Forces recruitment efforts. The panel will join me surely to

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Speaker 3: discuss that a groundbreaking study finds that puberty blockers and

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Speaker 3: irreversible treatments lead to worse psychiatric outcomes. I'll speak to

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Speaker 3: Rachel Wong about that shortly. Mihrowitz will have the latest

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Speaker 3: from the US, including the Seaspy deal appearing to fracture

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Speaker 3: within the verse twenty four hours and later in the

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Speaker 3: News and we never forget left. He is losing it tonight.

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Speaker 3: We have a young man pretending to be a woman

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Speaker 3: who wants a safe space away from women.

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Speaker 4: I want to see beast from siss women. How about that?

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Speaker 3: But first, our fears that the charges laid against Ben

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Speaker 3: Roberts Smith will have a dramatic effect on recruitment efforts

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Speaker 3: for the Australian Defense Force. Former labor Defense Minister Joel

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Speaker 3: Fitzgibbon is among experts warning that the charges against Robert

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Speaker 3: Smith will make recruitment more difficulty. Said, I fear some

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Speaker 3: parents will discourage their adult children from becoming involved in

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Speaker 3: the Defense Forces because of the treatment of an Australian hero.

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Speaker 3: Victoria Cross recipient Ben Robert Smith has been charged with

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Speaker 3: five counts of the war crime of murder the five

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Speaker 3: alleged defenses occurring in Afghanistan between two thousand and nine

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Speaker 3: and twenty twelve. If found guilty, the maximum penalty is

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Speaker 3: life in prison. Joining me now is the Institute of

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Speaker 3: Public Affairs chief economist Adam Crichton and former Liberal MP

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Speaker 3: Nicole Flint. Nicole, I'll start with you. The Australian Defense

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Speaker 3: Force currently has sixty one thous members. It wants to

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Speaker 3: have eighty thousand members by twenty forty. I don't think

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Speaker 3: that's likely under the current circumstances.

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Speaker 5: Do you?

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Speaker 6: I don't think it's likely.

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Speaker 5: Rita, Why would you join the Australian Defense Force and

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Speaker 5: risk your life and your reputation and your family knowing

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Speaker 5: what has just happened to Ben Roberts Smith, one of our.

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Speaker 6: Most decorated soldiers.

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Speaker 5: Why would you sign up when you know that your

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Speaker 5: superiors probably won't be held to account for alleged cultural

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Speaker 5: issues or issues and things that may have happened on

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Speaker 5: the battlefield. Why would you sign up to endure a

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Speaker 5: decade of allegations hanging over you and then have the

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Speaker 5: full force of the federal government departments and sections of

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Speaker 5: the mainstream media pursuing you. Rita, it is completely unfair

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Speaker 5: and I just can't see how people can have confidence

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Speaker 5: after you look at the manner in which Ben Robert

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Speaker 5: Smith was arrested, which I think would make Russia and

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Speaker 5: Chinese communists really happy. He was arrested in front of

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Speaker 5: his family. He was arrested in public at an airport.

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Speaker 5: The media were there. How they were granted access like

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Speaker 5: they were is beyond belief.

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Speaker 6: The AFP have a lot.

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Speaker 5: To answer for, but of course the AFP aren't answering

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Speaker 5: any questions. Rita, this is an absolutely shocking situation, and

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Speaker 5: at a time when we have record low recruitment.

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Speaker 6: And defense, it is just a disaster.

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Speaker 3: On the arrest, Adam, the AFP really need to account

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Speaker 3: for how certain members of the media seem to be

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Speaker 3: It's like a humiliation ritual.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: Look, and he's already been humiliated quite well enough, I

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Speaker 8: There's leaks from the AFP, like there are any police forces.

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Speaker 8: It's a bad thing, and of course it's designed to

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Speaker 7: Look, the only things that I.

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Speaker 8: Would add to Nicole's comments there, which I completely agree with,

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Speaker 8: is that you know, these these events are based on

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Speaker 8: Shouldn't there be some sort of statute limitations with these charges?

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Speaker 8: I mean, how can you have so many years later

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Speaker 8: you would not join the force thinking that. You know,

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Speaker 8: fifteen years later. It's crazy.

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Speaker 3: Well. Hugh Pote, the father of Fall an Australian soldier,

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Speaker 3: Private Robert Pote has question why dedicated team of investigators

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Speaker 3: Smith while his son killer remains free. Robert was one

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Speaker 3: of three Australians killed in Afghanistan by rogue Afghans so

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Speaker 3: known as heck Matulla, while they were playing cards. This

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Speaker 3: Daily Telegraph they've spent ten years and hundreds of millions

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Speaker 3: determined to find enough evidence to arrest Ben for allegedly

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Speaker 3: murdering three Afghans, but successive governments have taken no action

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Speaker 3: My son was one of them. Nicole, This is just

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Speaker 3: a heartbreaking case and you can understand that father's grief.

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Speaker 3: Why hasn't more been done to bring some justice to

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Speaker 5: Well precisely, and I think that this is the very

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Speaker 5: question that she should be put to every single Defense

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Speaker 6: In that portfolio since the incident and our involvement in

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Speaker 5: I would love to hear their answers, and I would

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Speaker 5: also love to hear the answers from the AFFE, from

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Speaker 5: the Department of Defense and any other bureaucrats that have

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Speaker 5: been involved in this entire reprehensible process involving our sas

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Speaker 5: troops and particularly Ben Roberts Smith. And I'm guessing Rita,

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Speaker 5: but one of the answers as to why they haven't

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Speaker 6: Because that would be quite difficult.

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Speaker 5: They would have to leave the safety of Australia, they

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Speaker 5: would have to go to a terrorist controlled country, they

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Speaker 5: sincerely doubt we will see that happen. Now.

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Speaker 6: I'd love to be proven wrong.

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Speaker 5: So please, if you're a bureaucrat out there who has

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Speaker 5: actually done the right thing and tried to bring justice

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Speaker 5: for an Australian soldier who gave his life for our nation,

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Speaker 5: I would love to hear about it.

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Speaker 3: Adam, the War Memorial in Canberra has confirmed it won't

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Speaker 3: take down its display of Ben Roberts Smith while he's

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Speaker 3: facing these charges. Is that the right decision?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: Look, I think it certainly is. There's something in this

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Speaker 8: country called the presumption of innocence, and he is certainly

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Speaker 8: we often forget that. I think people are charged with

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Speaker 8: You know, it just goes back to my earlier point.

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Speaker 8: I mean, it's been so long since these events, the

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Speaker 8: charges are still being brought, and could I just stress

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Speaker 8: you know, the decision to charge someone is real. It's

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Speaker 8: almost a political decision when you have limited resources in

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Speaker 8: I just don't understand from a pragmatic point of view,

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Speaker 8: solely pragmatic point of view, why would you choose to

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Speaker 3: Well more so than that, do they really have a

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Speaker 3: you bring charges. Is there a reasonable chance that you're

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Speaker 8: Well, from what I've read, no, it's not very high

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Speaker 8: at all, Because you know, I hope he has some

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Speaker 8: and to prove something beyond reasonable doubt that occurred in

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Speaker 3: Extremely in a foreign country. In a foreign country, But

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Speaker 3: the AFP would say there's a number of witnesses and

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Speaker 3: there's people who've given evidence, so we will leave that

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Speaker 3: to the courts. Now, let's move on to Labour's proposal

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Speaker 3: to overhaul tax settings for property investors. Well, that could

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Speaker 3: drive a thirty percent spike in rents over the next

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Speaker 3: two years. That's according to a major real estate boss.

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Speaker 3: Nathan Birch, the head of property management firm Blink, told

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Speaker 3: a lot of investors into selling. It's poor timing. It

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Speaker 3: would be a massive shock to the market and the

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Speaker 3: average tenant would struggle. Nicole Cheam charmers. I've got to

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Speaker 3: say the treasure I wonder whether it is economically illiterate.

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Speaker 3: He's hinted that there's going to be changes to the

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Speaker 3: capital gains tax discount and negative gearing provisions. Are they

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Speaker 3: just clueless about the full effects of a change like this,

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Speaker 3: or are they so ideologically driven that they don't care.

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Speaker 3: They're just so embroiled in the politics of envy and

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Speaker 3: the haves and have nots. And despite the fact that

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Speaker 3: secure their financial future, they're going after that sector.

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Speaker 5: Last time I checked, the main group of property investors

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Speaker 5: properties at most ritas. So yep, they're going after mum

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Speaker 5: and dad investors again. What really irks me about this,

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Speaker 5: though not even nerks me, disgusts me, is that Prime

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Speaker 5: Minister Anthony Arbernezi said during the federal election camp there

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Speaker 5: will be no changes to capital gains tax. So once

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Speaker 5: again we are seeing labor lying. We are seeing labor

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Speaker 6: Tax people more. This is what they always do.

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Speaker 5: They lied when they said that they wouldn't during the

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Speaker 5: previous election campaign, and here they are not even twelve

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Speaker 3: Adam Nicole makes an excellent point thereabout we just had

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Speaker 3: an election not too long ago. This wasn't on the agenda.

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Speaker 3: They don't have a mandate to make these sort of changes.

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Speaker 3: The last time they took this sort of issue to

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Speaker 3: now they're talking about it because there's a fuel crisis,

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Speaker 3: there's a budget crisis. They're not going to waste this crisis,

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Speaker 3: are they.

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Speaker 8: No, It certainly not. But look, you said that they're

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Speaker 8: This is all about politics, basically, it's about making a

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Speaker 8: change that will not actually have much impact.

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Speaker 9: In my view.

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Speaker 8: They're going to twiddle with They're going to tweak the

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Speaker 8: fifty percent discount. It's not going to raise any money.

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Speaker 8: People are just less likely to sell in that case.

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Speaker 8: They're just going to hold it on forever, basically passing

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Speaker 8: on to their kids. All the studies in the world,

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Speaker 8: basically even from Gratton, show that a small change will

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Speaker 8: only have a one or two percent effect on prices

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Speaker 8: at most, and even then over quite a long period

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Speaker 8: of time. So this is just to be seen to

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Speaker 8: be doing something. But the irony of that is it's

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Speaker 8: going to actually hurt younger people the most. And the

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Speaker 8: government's banging on all the time about intergenerational equity. Well

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Speaker 8: presumably and almost certainly it's going to be grandfathered. So

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Speaker 8: anyone who's already bought is going to be fined sand

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Speaker 8: on the fifty percent rate, but anyone new will be

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Speaker 8: on say thirty three percent discount or twenty five percent discount,

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Speaker 8: so they won't go in. So basically, the younger people

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Speaker 8: the so called evil boomers and the Gen x's or whatever,

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Speaker 8: they're going to be fine with their fifty percent discount.

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Speaker 3: You'll be okay, ridden fantastic. That's all I care about.

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Speaker 3: Adam Kraut and Nikolf Llene, thanks for your time tonight,

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Speaker 3: Thanks Na. A groundbreaking study from Finland has found that

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Speaker 3: So we've got Finland here tracking every gender referred adolescent

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Speaker 10: Hi, Rachel, great to join you. On the one hand,

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Speaker 10: Damning evidence that not when did these young people present

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Speaker 10: And so I think that, on the one hand, a

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Speaker 10: Well, creator, I think there was no excuse when the

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Speaker 3: you still to come. Left Ear is Losing It plus

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Speaker 3: and it's time for Leftie is Losing It Now. We

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Speaker 3: Anka Lawrence O'Donnell, who had this to say after the

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Speaker 9: That brilliant rescue was described by the Secretary of Defense

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Speaker 9: Chiefs of Staff, as a longstanding American military rule of

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Speaker 7: We leave no man behind.

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Speaker 9: That is, of course, the old school version of the

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Speaker 7: We leave no one behind.

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Speaker 9: The General knows, unlike Pete Hegsath, that that could have

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Speaker 3: Next time the man needs help. Let's be honest, professional help.

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Speaker 3: Imagine being aggrieved by the term no man left behind

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Speaker 11: I can't stop thinking about how grass lines are racist

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Speaker 11: It's really upsetting. Bring back weeds, bring back clovery yards.

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Speaker 11: Can we just can can anything just be okay in

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Speaker 3: It's exhausting, it really is. And does she realize how

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Speaker 4: Heart take? I want to save space from CIS women?

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Speaker 3: He wants a safe space from sis woman. That's real woman.

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Speaker 3: Well you got it, honey, it's called the men's bathroom,

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Speaker 3: the men's locker rooms. You won't find any real women

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Speaker 3: brock Collier, a they them writer from the New York

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Speaker 3: magazine Now. She says, woke culture is more live than ever.

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Speaker 2: I mean it feels like more fraught and policy than ever.

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Speaker 2: In my social circles. There's like a slight fascistic thing

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Speaker 2: you like Lina delve Oh but wait, she dated a

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Speaker 2: And she has Chadwaite aesthetics, you know, all sharing on Instagram,

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Speaker 2: And if you don't rank it exactly that way, then

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Speaker 3: Natural woman railing against biological reality. And this is a

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Speaker 3: soccer player, the spectacularly arrogant and dumb Meaghan Rapperno, claiming

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Speaker 12: Hateful transgender day of Visibility. So we just want to

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Speaker 3: Here's a little reality check, Meagan, you would not have

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Speaker 3: and you wouldn't even be important enough to feature on lifties.

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Speaker 3: Losing it. The truth is elite female teams have lost

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Speaker 3: the Matilda's lost seven nil to the under fifteen boys

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Speaker 3: in recent weeks we've discussed the comic convoy to Cuba

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Speaker 3: and that track record has become so egregious that earlier

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Speaker 13: This, here's some of what he actually has said about

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Speaker 13: the depravity of the October seventh terror attack, the deadliest

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Speaker 7: America deserved nine to eleven.

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Speaker 14: Dude, I'm saying it, but we totally brought it on ourselves.

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Speaker 7: Dude, holy shit, we did.

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Speaker 3: We did. Feels like deja vu all over again. Didn't

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Speaker 14: It was very sad.

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Speaker 14: But then it was very angering.

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Speaker 7: It was very angry.

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Speaker 14: Inducing because I felt like, you know, there was a

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Speaker 14: lot of potential on this island that we were just

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Speaker 14: robbing the people of and and and it's it's totally

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Speaker 14: cruel and totally unnecessary.

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Speaker 3: So ha Son wants to talk about what's cruel and unnecessary.

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Speaker 3: The dude who is untroubled by the rapes and slaughter

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Speaker 3: of October seven is feeling sad about unnecessary cruelty. I mean,

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Speaker 3: well done CNN for giving that dude a platform and

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Speaker 3: not asking him about his many abhorrent comments. Let's bring

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Speaker 3: in documentary filmmaker and commentator Army Horowitz. Army, we will

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Speaker 3: turn out and to events in the Middle East shortly.

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Speaker 3: But first, your response to Hassan Piker being embraced by

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Speaker 3: Democrat politicians.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, I just.

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Speaker 1: Want to they're not just kind of giving them a platform.

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Speaker 1: I actually wouldn't have put it that way. They're just

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Speaker 1: trying to mainstream him.

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Speaker 7: That's the problem.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, at dand Bash, too little, too late. When your

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Speaker 1: organization and CNN and MSNBC and the New York Times

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Speaker 1: all are trying, they're not just having them on their show.

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Speaker 7: To show to see and to see.

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Speaker 1: His views radicalism and his views on that and trying

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Speaker 1: to say, hey, there's an issue here. They're actually giving

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Speaker 1: him a place to talk about political analysis, right to.

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Speaker 7: Discuss the world.

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Speaker 1: They're interested in his ideas and thoughts. That's a much

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Speaker 1: much larger problem. Look, he's a rock star of the

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Speaker 1: Democratic Party and of chat GPT because of course, when

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Speaker 1: when I went up to my good friend chat and said, hey,

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Speaker 1: can you walk me through some more controversial statements of

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Speaker 1: Hassan Piker, even chat GBT went out of its way

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Speaker 1: to soften the edges of Hassan and give me context.

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Speaker 7: Thanks, but no thanks CHATPT.

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Speaker 5: No.

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Speaker 1: Look, this is a guy who shared a stage with

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Speaker 1: AOC and shar Talab and Bertie Sanders and even ro Kana,

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Speaker 1: A guy who actually I disagree with him, a guy

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Speaker 1: that I like.

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Speaker 7: It shows you to pull and power as he has.

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Speaker 1: He has candidates asking him to come and campaign with them, right,

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Speaker 1: most notably El Sayed, who maybe the next Senator of Michigan,

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Speaker 1: the guy who famously said their sadness and dearborn over

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Speaker 1: the death of Romeni. Yeah, look, the the if Democrats

483
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Speaker 1: are wondering, you know, why the electorate is looking at

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Speaker 1: our party as saying, hey, we have anti Semites. We're

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Speaker 1: out of touch with mainstream America. Hassan Piker is exhibit A.

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Speaker 3: Now to the war against the Iranian regime, and we

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Speaker 3: have reports that the ceasefire deal is already in tatters

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Speaker 3: with your closing the Strait of Homus in response to

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Speaker 3: Israeli air strikes in Lebanon. What more can you tell me?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, look, ceasefires are in general very fragile, and yeah,

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Speaker 1: the ceasefire has been a little bit back and forth.

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Speaker 1: But look we saw that with the Palate with Kamas

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Speaker 1: and Israel, and ultimately there was a ceasefire there.

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Speaker 7: I feel like this is.

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Speaker 1: Probably going to hold over a long period of time

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Speaker 1: because frankly, the Iranians, they don't have any choice. Okay,

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Speaker 1: it's crazy how badly Iran has played a very bad hend.

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Speaker 1: First of all, they attack their neighbors, the Gulf States,

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Speaker 1: pushing the it's incredible, pushing the Gulf States to side

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Speaker 1: with Israel, to nearly almost beg Israel in the US

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Speaker 1: to continue bombing Iran because of how scared they are

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Speaker 1: on the reaction one have to them. It's my feeling

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Speaker 1: that China has actually put a lot of pressure on

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Speaker 1: Iran to agree the ceasefire, because let's not forget that's.

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Speaker 7: A straight up hormus.

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Speaker 1: The oil is not going to the West, It's going

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Speaker 1: to Asia in particular China. China gets between ten to

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Speaker 1: fifteen percent of all their oil from the Straits. And

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Speaker 1: talk about you know, cutting your nose off to spite

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Speaker 1: your face, Iran, and how badly you've played this. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: China buys nearly eighty percent of all your goods, including

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Speaker 1: oil and gas, yet you chose to try to freeze

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Speaker 1: out one of your partners.

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Speaker 7: I mean, it's crazy.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, the straight up Homu's reopening, which

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Speaker 1: has reopened, is really the only area of leverage that

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Speaker 1: Iran has right now.

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Speaker 7: They lost that pressure point.

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Speaker 1: And I guess now CNN can drop the chiron that

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Speaker 1: I saw up all day Rita where it said that

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Speaker 1: the gas prices are up one dollar since the start

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Speaker 1: of the war.

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Speaker 7: I don't know if I saw the same.

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Speaker 1: Chiron when get gas prices were up three dollars under

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Speaker 1: by night. I think I may have missed that. But look,

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Speaker 1: the ceasefire is going to allow a number of things

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Speaker 1: to happen. Iron Israel can now focus on Lebanon and

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Speaker 1: eradicating them from the issue, and all the dominoes that

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Speaker 1: will fall from what's going on here.

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Speaker 7: Is absolutely incredible.

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Speaker 1: It's going to change the entire region, if not the world, Lebanon,

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Speaker 1: the Palestinians, Iraq, it changes it all. So yeah, let's

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Speaker 1: see what happens. But I feel like we're going a

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Speaker 1: good place.

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Speaker 3: Have those broadcasters, I think CNN, perhaps even MS now

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Speaker 3: have they dropped those banners about what the ship market

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Speaker 3: is doing and what gas prices are doing as soon

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Speaker 3: as they started going in the right directions? Is that true?

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Speaker 3: Because I'm hearing reports that as soon as the news

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Speaker 3: was positive, those scare banners were gone.

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Speaker 1: They dropped it as soon I was technically possible, that's right.

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Speaker 1: As gas prices plummeted today.

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Speaker 3: Well, we've got short in this country where not energy

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Speaker 3: independent like the US, and the Wall Street Journal is

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Speaker 3: reporting that Iran has told mediators it would limit the

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Speaker 3: number of ships transiting through the Strait to about a

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Speaker 3: dozen a day as part of this cease fire army.

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Speaker 3: That's not going to do much to ease global shortages.

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Speaker 3: And as I said, we've got petrol stations in this

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Speaker 3: country that have a run out of fuel.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: No, but it's not about if it's not about the

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Speaker 1: snapshot of where we're are.

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Speaker 7: It's about where this thing is progressing to.

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Speaker 1: And that's a massive change in the Iranian position to

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Speaker 1: allow any oil. And again I think this is China

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Speaker 1: kind of pressure them to do this. Yeah, look, they're

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Speaker 1: limiting it now that are trying to hold on to

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Speaker 1: whatever leverage they can. But in reality, I've already given

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Speaker 1: up the ghost and they're moving toward total capitulation.

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Speaker 3: Now, let's have a look at this ten point plan

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Speaker 3: presented by the Iranians and army. I can't see the

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Speaker 3: US agreeing to many of these demands. For starters, point three,

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Speaker 3: they want the US to accept an Iranian right to

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Speaker 3: enrich uranium. Point four calls for the lifting of all

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Speaker 3: primary sanctions, and point five lifting of all secondary sanctions. Now, again,

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Speaker 3: the Iranians seem to be rather delusional here. The US

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Speaker 3: surely isn't going to agree to all of this without

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Speaker 3: some fairly seismic changes from the regime.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they had some pretty weird aggressive asks in there,

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Speaker 1: including oddly at the iotoleby the hostler and that's golden globes.

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Speaker 7: But actually that is problem more likely.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that one's actually more likely leader than the US

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Speaker 1: agreeing for let them to continue to rich uranium. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: these are a lot of these our non starters. I

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Speaker 1: don't know who they think they're negotiating with. I think

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Speaker 1: they're still remembering what it's like to negotiat with Trump

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Speaker 1: and Biden, Obama and Biden.

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Speaker 7: But yeah, I think the difference is the.

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Speaker 1: Almost seven hundred and fifty million pounds of bombs that

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Speaker 1: Trump dropped on their heads. Maybe it gave them some

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Speaker 1: kind of, you know, weird amnesia of who they're dealing

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Speaker 1: with here.

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Speaker 7: So that's not going to really help them much.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they want you know, one of the things they

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Speaker 1: asked for all there was compensation for their damages. I

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Speaker 1: think it's more likely that Trump will get them to

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Speaker 1: pay him for the for the gas that we've spent

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Speaker 1: on our b one bombers, dropping all the ordinances on

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Speaker 1: them because gas prices spiked because of them. So yeah, look,

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Speaker 1: let's be honest what this really is about. Ultimately they're negotiating,

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Speaker 1: I get it, but I think the only way out

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Speaker 1: is through and what that really means. Ultimately, I feel

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Speaker 1: strongly this is just going to regime change.

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Speaker 7: That's the endgame here.

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Speaker 3: Well, let's hope so. But that's going to be up

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Speaker 3: to the Iranian people. And they've been battered after what

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Speaker 3: happened in January, tens of thousands of them slaughtered by

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Speaker 3: the regime for protesting for their freedom. So remains to

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Speaker 3: be seen whether they'll take to the streets and demand

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Speaker 3: regime change again. Now let's talk about Kiir Starma, the

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Speaker 3: British Prime Ministers, being widely mocked for trying to take

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Speaker 3: credit or pretending he had anything to do with this

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Speaker 3: Ceaspire deal.

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Speaker 15: What is the purpose of your visit here in the Gulf.

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Speaker 3: What kind of influence do you think you can have.

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Speaker 8: Well, we've just reached this Cea spire, which is both

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Speaker 8: welcome and I think there'll be a sense of real

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Speaker 8: relief that certainly is across the region and for the

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Speaker 8: United Kingdom.

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Speaker 11: But there's work to do.

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Speaker 3: We reached this Seaspire Army kissed Starma there in Saudi

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Speaker 3: Arabia talking about the Sea Spied deal that he had

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Speaker 3: nothing at all to do with, He had no part

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Speaker 3: in brokering it. He had nothing at all to do

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Speaker 3: with the detail. If I'm wrong, Army, but didn't you

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Speaker 3: find out about it at the same time as the

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Speaker 3: rest of.

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Speaker 1: Us In the immortal words of Tanto, What do you

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Speaker 1: mean we white man? Yeah, Kiir Starmer, you had, bro,

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Speaker 1: you had nothing to do with this. This is Kiir

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Speaker 1: Starmer who said repeatedly this is not our war. This

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Speaker 1: is the Kia Starmer who said that you, the US

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Speaker 1: cannot use our basis to free the Iranian people.

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Speaker 7: This is the Kias Starmer didn't.

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Speaker 1: Lift a finger to help the US and said that

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Speaker 1: we can't have a gen change through bombing. Yeah, Kis Starmer,

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Speaker 1: thanks a lot, but we don't need your help, bro.

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Speaker 3: Now Trump has lashed out at NATO again. He said

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Speaker 3: NATO members had actually gone out of their way not

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Speaker 3: to help with the conflict in Iran, and he said

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Speaker 3: the Alliance is a paper tiger that Russian President Vladimir

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Speaker 3: Putin is not afraid of. And he posted this earlier today.

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Speaker 7: Army.

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Speaker 3: He said NATO wasn't there when we needed them, and

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Speaker 3: they won't be there if we need them again. Tell

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Speaker 3: me about the meeting he had with the NATO Secretary

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Speaker 3: General of the Wide House and imagine that would have

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Speaker 3: been a fairly tense meeting Army.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, Route is a big fan of Trump right

641
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Speaker 1: famously call them daddy.

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Speaker 7: Route is actually been defender of NATO.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think that means actually particularly tense. I

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Speaker 1: gotta be honest. I think that Route kind of agreed

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Speaker 1: with most of what Trump was saying, So.

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Speaker 7: I think they're cool.

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Speaker 1: I think that the larger issue here is the way

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Speaker 1: Trump deals with NATO in general.

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Speaker 7: And I can't look.

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Speaker 1: You know, I will take a victory lap when I'm right,

651
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Speaker 1: and I will do me a couple when I am wrong.

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Speaker 1: And I have been wrong a number of times with

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Speaker 1: Trump and kitin NATO. I remember saying, me and Frank

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Speaker 1: and you know the rest of the world was saying,

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Speaker 1: I can't believe he keeps saying you want to leave NATO,

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Speaker 1: drop out of NATO. It's Look, it's Trump's way of negotiating,

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Speaker 1: and boy is he right. In twenty seventeen, okay, nearly

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Speaker 1: none of the NATO countries were paying their fair share

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Speaker 1: of their GDP to the military that they contractually were

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Speaker 1: obligated to do. And during Trump's first administration. He got

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Speaker 1: nearly all of them to pay up, and that was

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Speaker 1: because the leverage he put on them was saying, we're

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Speaker 1: going to drop at new This is all part of

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Speaker 1: Trump's master plan to get NATO to do what it

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Speaker 1: has to do and get them in line for this

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Speaker 1: new rule order that we're seeing Trump initiate across the globe.

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Speaker 3: Well, this is what's incredible about the way Trump has

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Speaker 3: handled this conflict. I'm continuously shocked at me that no

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Speaker 3: one is waking up to his strategy. He does the

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Speaker 3: same thing pretty much every time. It's the same cycle

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Speaker 3: that he goes sorry to get to the desired end results,

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Speaker 3: and yet we have this mass hysteria every time he

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Speaker 3: becomes antagonistic, every time he makes these wild claims about

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Speaker 3: wiping out of civilization or whatever the cases during each negotiation.

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Speaker 3: Is the media awake now to what he's doing. Is

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Speaker 3: this just all them buying into the hysteria because it's

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Speaker 3: a good story. Are they genuinely in shock each time?

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Speaker 3: Like they have selective amnesia.

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Speaker 1: He is the goat of trolls, the greatest of all times,

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00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:31,320
Speaker 1: and they still don't know they're being trolled. It's absolute

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Speaker 1: How does people have a job in media if they

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Speaker 1: are so gollible and fall into his trap every single time.

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Speaker 3: It's incredible, it really is. Now we've spoken about the

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Speaker 3: left wing bias of Apple News, well Google is almost

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Speaker 3: as bad. And the war against Iran is a good

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Speaker 3: sign of how they present the news. Let's have a

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Speaker 3: look at this of the one hundred and eighty nine

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Speaker 3: article it has promoted on this conflict. One hundred and

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Speaker 3: eighty three army. We're from left leaning sources. That's according

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Speaker 3: to the Media Research Center, And I think that helps

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Speaker 3: paint a picture of why so many people are buying

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Speaker 3: into the media hysteria, certainly in this country where they

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Speaker 3: think it's just chaos and the Trump administration is just

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Speaker 3: blindly going to this conflict not knowing what it's doing,

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Speaker 3: without understanding there's a strategy behind all this, there is

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Speaker 3: an end goal that is that the administration is trying

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Speaker 3: to achieve.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it really is incredible to me. Look, the bias

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Speaker 1: is not shocking, right, if the bias is what we've

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Speaker 1: seen much about this war, but anything when it comes

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Speaker 1: to conservative versus liberals and becomes to social media, right,

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Speaker 1: everybody in our business, your company, my business, everyone I

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Speaker 1: know I deal with has faced bias across social media,

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Speaker 1: particularly Google and YouTube, but certainly other ones as well.

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Speaker 7: But it just confounds me.

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Speaker 1: That this is where the Democrats, even mainstream Democrats, people

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Speaker 1: will have a lot of some you know, some true

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Speaker 1: men as a matter of respect for that, they have

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Speaker 1: come out so staunchly against this war, the freeing. They're

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Speaker 1: coming against a war that is freeing the Iranian people

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Speaker 1: from one of the most brutal, evil regimes on planet Earth.

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Speaker 1: I don't get who they're aligning themselves with. It doesn't

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Speaker 1: make sense to me. I'm not talking about the far

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Speaker 1: less Democrats that asan pikers and the shad Telaibs. I'm

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Speaker 1: talking about the mainstream Democrats who cannot support Trump. It

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Speaker 1: just shows you the reality and the truth of Trump

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Speaker 1: the arrangement syndrome that even this the freeing of the

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Speaker 1: Iranian people against this evil regime, something they cannot support,

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Speaker 1: and they are They're not even like equivocating.

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Speaker 7: There are against it full stop.

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Speaker 3: Amy, how are we? Thank you so much for your

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Speaker 3: time tonight.

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Speaker 7: Where's a pleasure.

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Speaker 3: Still to come? All the royal and entertainment news you

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Speaker 3: care about, including Meghan Markel setting her sites on Australia.

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Speaker 3: Kinsey Schofield is up next Welcome back now. Meghan Markle's

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Speaker 3: latest move to trademark her lifestyle brand as ever here

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Speaker 3: in Australia, has cast outs over the brand success in America.

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Speaker 3: Celebrity pr specialist Kaylee Cornearly is tot page six where

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Speaker 3: reports on Netflix's pulled back as an investor. That will

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Speaker 3: likely slow down any plans to scale the business domestically,

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Speaker 3: particularly when it comes to launching new products or expanding

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Speaker 3: the brand in a meaningful way. She also added, in

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Speaker 3: that context, branching out into a new market starts to

735
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Speaker 3: feel less like a choice and more like necessity to

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Speaker 3: avoid the brand stagnating. Joining me now is host of

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Speaker 3: the Kinsey Schofield Unfiltered podcast, Kinsey Schofield. Can I say

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Speaker 3: please keep Megan Markle with you. We've got enough painful

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Speaker 3: influences in this country. We don't need to add another one.

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Speaker 16: You know, going from cable TV actress to a duchess

741
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Speaker 16: should be the fairy tale ending. That's a once in

742
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Speaker 16: a lifetime promotion, But somehow the trajectory reversed.

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Speaker 3: I mean, we were looking.

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Speaker 16: At a woman who's using her royal title to turn

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Speaker 16: it into influencer marketing, meet and greets and selfies on

746
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Speaker 16: the dollar. That's not evolution, that's like moonwalking. She's going backwards.

747
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Speaker 16: And honestly, I'm surprised the Estate of Michael Jackson hasn't

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Speaker 16: sent a season assist because the fall is dramatic.

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Speaker 3: It is quite a force. The adoration she enjoyed early

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Speaker 3: on people forget that. I'm gonna tell you in this

751
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 3: country it was enormous, as it was in the UK

752
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Speaker 3: in the early days. Now, comedian Nikki Glazer has confessed

753
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Speaker 3: on the Call Her Daddy podcast that she enjoys it

754
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 3: when her boyfriend cheats on her when he hooks up

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Speaker 3: with other women. Have a listened to this.

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Speaker 15: I don't care if a guy has a sexual connection

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Speaker 15: with a girl and like he was to use protection

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Speaker 15: and just have sex with her for a night, Like

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Speaker 15: I don't. I literally wouldn't care if my husband did that, don't.

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Speaker 15: I don't know why, Kinsey.

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Speaker 3: She went on to say a lot of other weird stuff,

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Speaker 3: sort of pick me stuff. I would say, she's certainly

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Speaker 3: a funny, funny girl, but I get a feeling she's

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Speaker 3: a little bit troubled.

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Speaker 16: I mean maybe or is this just the podcast you

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Speaker 16: hit up to put your complete lack of morals and

767
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Speaker 16: values on display? Because remember when Justin Trudeau's current girlfriend

768
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Speaker 16: Katie Perry revealed that a clean kitchen or having the

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Speaker 16: dishes done by Orlando Bloom was a major turn on.

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Speaker 16: She said something like if I come downstairs in the

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Speaker 16: kitchen is clean, and I'm not going to finish that

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Speaker 16: sentence because this is a family show, but it rhymes

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Speaker 16: where he gets a nose job.

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Speaker 7: Or when forty nine.

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Speaker 16: Year old show leased their own admitted that she recently

776
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,839
Speaker 16: had an amazing one night stand when a twenty six

777
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Speaker 16: year old man change the name of the podcast to

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Speaker 16: Golden Girls Getting Some I for one, am not prepared

779
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 16: for the stories that come out of the Call Her

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Speaker 16: Daddy podcast.

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Speaker 3: Oh, Kamala gave us nothing like that when she went

782
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Speaker 3: on that podcast. I mean that was really quite disappointing.

783
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Speaker 3: Maybe if she had, people would have taken notice of

784
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 3: that interview because they spent a lot of money getting

785
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Speaker 3: her to do that podcast. Now, some embarrassing news for

786
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Speaker 3: CNN actor Michael J. Fox has had to confirm that

787
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Speaker 3: he is in fact alive after the news publication posted

788
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Speaker 3: this article remembering the life of actor Michael J. Fox.

789
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Speaker 3: A member of Fox's team had to reach out to

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Speaker 3: TMZ to confirm that the actor is doing well. They said,

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Speaker 3: Michael is doing great. He was at Pailey Fest yesterday.

792
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Speaker 3: He was on stage giving interviews. Kinsey, more fake news

793
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Speaker 3: from CNN.

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Speaker 16: It seems CNN used to be the place where Americans

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Speaker 16: turned for facts, but since like twenty sixteen or even

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Speaker 16: before that, a lot of viewers believe the network has

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00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 16: been more interested in pushing a narrative, add in embarrassing

798
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Speaker 16: mistakes like falsely reporting the death of Michael G. Fox,

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Speaker 16: and every error tips away. It's at what's left of

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Speaker 16: this network's credibility. This is so humiliating for them now.

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Speaker 3: Rap star Kanye West made an appearance at an LA

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Speaker 3: comedy club yesterday, just hours after being hit with a

803
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Speaker 3: UK travel ban, and that travel ban has led to

804
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Speaker 3: the festival he was meant to headline being canceled altogether. Kinsey,

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00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 3: tell me, what are folks in the US making of

806
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:53,760
Speaker 3: this UK decision?

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Speaker 16: I think that Kanye West remains on than ice with

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Speaker 16: Americans too. It's going to take more more than an

809
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 16: ad in a trade magazine and an apology for people

810
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Speaker 16: to forgive his past words and actions. But I think

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Speaker 16: many people recognize Americans, they should say, recognize this as

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Speaker 16: a public relations opportunity for a very weak looking Prime Minister.

813
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Speaker 16: Kier Starmer appears eager to take a stand against Kanye,

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Speaker 16: and you know what, Holding celebrities accountable is easy. Addressing

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Speaker 16: the antisemitic protests happening in London week after week as

816
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Speaker 16: apparently harder for him. That contrast is why some people

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Speaker 16: see this more as symbolism, I guess, than substance. I

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Speaker 16: call it virtue signaling. I'm just not buying this sincerity

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Speaker 16: from Kure.

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Speaker 3: Now, the woman who sold the fatal dose of ketamine

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Speaker 3: to friends Matthew Perry has been sentenced to fifteen years

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Speaker 3: in prison. Jasmine Sanga, also known as the Kettymine Queen

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Speaker 3: among her customers, pled guilty to five charges relating to

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Speaker 3: Perry's fatal overdose in October twenty twenty five. Three. Wow,

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Speaker 3: what else can you tell me about this fifteen year sentence?

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Speaker 16: Well, I could tell you. In court she acknowledged what

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Speaker 16: she called her poor choices and horrible decisions, telling the

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Speaker 16: judge she prays for forgiveness every day, and then I

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Speaker 16: thought it was very compelling. Outside of the courthouse. Keith Morrison,

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Speaker 16: Matthew Perry's stepfather. He praised the judge for delivering a

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Speaker 16: highly reasoned sentence. He said, you know, we miss Matthew dreadfully,

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Speaker 16: of course, but I also thought it was important that

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Speaker 16: he said, I feel badly for the family of the

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Speaker 16: perpetrator as well. Nobody won today, So I thought a

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Speaker 16: lot of empathy and compassion coming from Perry's family.

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Speaker 3: But a serious sentence there. Fifteen years now, we brought

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Speaker 3: you the story last week of Tilsea star Chili apologizing

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Speaker 3: to her fans and saying I'm not mag after it

839
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Speaker 3: was revealed she had donated money to the Trump campaign.

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Speaker 3: Now they're still going after there's now new reports that

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Speaker 3: Chile voted for the Republican Party from twenty sixty to

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty four in both primaries and the general election.

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Speaker 3: KINSI I couldn't believe she apologized. I mean, why can't

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Speaker 3: she be a little bit more like NICKI Minaj own

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Speaker 3: this and not I don't know, taking knee to the bullies.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 16: Look, I don't want to get her in trouble or

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Speaker 16: call her out, but we have mutual friends, and I

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Speaker 16: know she does have some conservative values. She is genuinely

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Speaker 16: a sweet girl that unfortunately is fearful of alienation over

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Speaker 16: her political affiliation. You know, she has seen a resurgence

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Speaker 16: in her career thanks to her relationship with Matthew Lawrence,

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Speaker 16: and she feels she's jeopardized that. But perhaps if she

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Speaker 16: were a little more confident and clear in her beliefs,

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Speaker 16: she would attract a much more loyal and fierce fan base.

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Speaker 16: I'm sorry, you know, I feel sorry for her. Yeah,

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Speaker 16: I think that it's a.

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Speaker 3: Difficult I get it. There's a real, real McCarthyism in

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Speaker 3: the entertainment industry, a real one. And if you are

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Speaker 3: not of the left, if you are in any way conservative,

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Speaker 3: you will be blacklisted, you will have your career impacted.

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Speaker 3: So I get it. But you know, courage is contagious,

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Speaker 3: and sometimes you need to show a little courage now

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Speaker 3: before you go. Reports that Microsoft boss Bill Gates is

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Speaker 3: said to testify before US Congress on June tenth as

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Speaker 3: part of their investigation into convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein

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Speaker 3: Kinsey's is a major development in the story. Do you

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Speaker 3: think Bill Gates will be an open book in this hearing.

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Speaker 16: I think this is likely going to play out similar

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Speaker 16: to the Clinton testimony, where we get access to the

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Speaker 16: material after the fact. I suspect Bill Gates will be

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Speaker 16: highly choreographed in his delivery, unlike Bill Clinton, who seemed

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Speaker 16: almost giddy while looking through old photos and reminiscing. But

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Speaker 16: you know, I don't have high hopes for Bill Gates.

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Speaker 16: You saw that interview he gave in Australia, very composed,

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Speaker 16: very scripted, and I.

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Speaker 3: Think it will be so well rehearsed. I think he

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Speaker 3: is going to be drilled and drilled hard by his

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Speaker 3: media people, so there will be no surprises. He'll know

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Speaker 3: what questions are coming and he'll have some very well

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Speaker 3: scripted answers that possibly don't say much at all. Kinsiscofield,

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Speaker 3: thank you so much for your time tonight, and that's

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Speaker 3: all the time we have. Don't go anywhere. Newsnight is

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Speaker 3: up next