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Speaker 1: This is the fitting and with her with Kate Richie podcast.

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Speaker 2: This is really interesting. Have you seen this story floating

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Speaker 2: around of Sophie Turner. Sophie Turner of course Game of

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Speaker 2: Thrones fame.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, she was amazed.

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Speaker 2: She was brilliant in that. And then that's right, and

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Speaker 2: you know has worked on many other things.

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Speaker 1: Another one, just another one turn his sister, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you've got your spot on. Okay, action standing, yeah, okay, action.

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Speaker 1: You know nothing, John Snow, you know nothing, John Snow,

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Speaker 1: Terry Leanister, who is that wat?

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Speaker 2: I watched it when I was waiting for my baby

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Speaker 2: to arrive, all four five series, So May so May

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Speaker 2: in the womb, all May heard was dragons.

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Speaker 1: Some reading. Oh my god, the Red Wedding.

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Speaker 2: I never got to the Red Wedding. Actually I didn't

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Speaker 2: to that series.

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Speaker 1: Get to it now anyway. It's the Crimson Wedding.

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Speaker 2: Red Wedding. And then all it made me think of

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Speaker 2: was red rum Rum rum? What's red rum from that

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Speaker 2: other film The Shining Yeah, great movie.

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Speaker 1: Chat Murders Cake, go and watch the Crimson Wedding today.

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to watch it. I don't think it

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Speaker 2: gets you up and about stuff like that really does

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Speaker 2: it And I think I need a bit of a

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Speaker 2: cheer squad at the moment. Okay, we're not really talking

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Speaker 2: about Sophie's body of work, which is fantastic. We're talking

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Speaker 2: about the fact that she then went on to marry

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Speaker 2: Joe Jonas from the Jonas Brothers.

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Speaker 1: That's the finest work.

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Speaker 2: Massive hits like something about being in the ocean and

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Speaker 2: Cake by the Ocean, Cake by the Ocean.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, big fan, it was actually was that Nick for Joe?

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Speaker 1: I think it was Nick.

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Speaker 2: We're getting bogged down in because this is actually a

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Speaker 2: really I've been waiting for this. Sophie Turner has finally

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Speaker 2: come out and being able to speak about that period

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Speaker 2: when the news broke that her and Joe were no

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Speaker 2: longer together and everyone.

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Speaker 1: Here things like this should be kept them to themselves. Well, no,

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Speaker 1: she's made a statement, he's made a statement.

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Speaker 2: Stay out of it. She has finally spoken, and I

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Speaker 2: think it's been really important for her to have the

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Speaker 2: opportunity to touch on things because back then last year,

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Speaker 2: when the news of the divorce or the separation happened,

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Speaker 2: it did really feel as though the news coverage was

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Speaker 2: being manipulated maybe to make Sophie Turner look like a

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Speaker 2: bad mom, a bad partner. She was a bit of

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Speaker 2: a partier. I don't remember if you know the stories.

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Speaker 2: So I actually I believe that she's probably been waiting

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Speaker 2: to be able to say something. You're allowed to get

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Speaker 2: involved you, but he hasn't made a statement. She has.

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Speaker 2: She's spoken to British Vogue, where all good people give

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Speaker 2: their statements post divorce publication. It's quite an emotional interview

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Speaker 2: and she's just it details how she felt after the

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Speaker 2: divorce and the fact that when the story broke, she's

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Speaker 2: working on a television show not in the United States, Joan.

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Speaker 2: She's on set for another two weeks. She's contracted to

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Speaker 2: still be there. Joe Jonas is in America with the kids,

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Speaker 2: and all of the news and all of the press

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Speaker 2: starts unfolding without her being present and without being able

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Speaker 2: to comment anything. She said. I mean, those were the

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Speaker 2: worst few days of my life. I remember I was

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Speaker 2: on set. I was contracted to be on set for

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Speaker 2: another two weeks. It couldn't leave. So my kids were

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Speaker 2: in the States. This is what I've just said, I guess,

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Speaker 2: and I couldn't get to them because I had to

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Speaker 2: finish Joan all these articles started to come out. She

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Speaker 2: has two daughters with Joe. She said that the cast

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Speaker 2: that she worked with were her emotional support, people in

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Speaker 2: her family, and even some of the directors or the

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Speaker 2: producers on the show. They have come out and said,

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Speaker 2: oh my goodness. It was made out as though Sophie

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Speaker 2: was not rushing to be by her family side during

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Speaker 2: this period and she was out partying. But we know

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Speaker 2: she was on set twenty four hours a day trying

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Speaker 2: to film film this thing. And I think, just to

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Speaker 2: give the story credit, I actually, I know you're making

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Speaker 2: fun of this, but it hurt her because everyone wanted

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Speaker 2: to try and break her down and pull her apart

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Speaker 2: and make her look like she was the cause of

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Speaker 2: the marriage breakdown. I think because of legal reasons, it

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Speaker 2: can't really be discussed what that was all about. But

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Speaker 2: she actually said, I had to get to a point

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Speaker 2: where regardless of what people were saying, and I'm sure

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Speaker 2: people get to this point in their lives, even if

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Speaker 2: they're not famous and it's not public. You've got to

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Speaker 2: keep reminding yourself that I am a good mum, I

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Speaker 2: am a good parent. It doesn't matter what people are

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Speaker 2: saying out there, just focus on the kids, keep moving forward.

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Speaker 1: I know what you're saying. If I was to try

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Speaker 1: and summon up Coate, I'd say compartmentalize. Now, one person

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Speaker 1: that could do that better than anybody else, is it great?

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Speaker 1: Was the great austrain by the name of Shane Keith

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Speaker 1: Warn now warninge his marriage was falling apart, and his

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Speaker 1: kids are upset, the wife's distraught. He's probably got a

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Speaker 1: couple of girls, but still had come out and did

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Speaker 1: take nine for you know, And that was the power

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Speaker 1: of Shane Warn being able to focus on the task

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Speaker 1: at hand. It's got nothing to.

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Speaker 2: Do with have you turned a story about Sophie Turner

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Speaker 2: finally getting the opportunity to say something about her life

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Speaker 2: rather than having to listen to everybody.

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Speaker 1: Else comment Mornie could do it.

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Speaker 2: That you've turned it into a cricket store.

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Speaker 1: Shane Keith. So he was able to go, Okay, when

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Speaker 1: I'm at home, I'll deal with that. But now I'm

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Speaker 1: out here.

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Speaker 2: Good chat, good chat, whip, I will.

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Speaker 1: Do what I have to do now.

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Speaker 2: I was even loath to bring up the name Taylor

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Speaker 2: Swift because her name was is floating around all of

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Speaker 2: this story as well. Very good friends with Sophie Turner

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Speaker 2: deemed to be some kind of hero during this period

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Speaker 2: of the marriage breakdown, opened her home, welcomed Sophie in,

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Speaker 2: and that was like her little, you know, warm, safe

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Speaker 2: cocoon when Sophie, I think, felt like the world was

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Speaker 2: against her.

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Speaker 1: I feel tied into this too, Kate sort of Sophie,

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Speaker 1: Taylor Swift and Tom and I because we're at Toddy's

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Speaker 1: in BONDI having a feed. Weren't we told me, I

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Speaker 1: think we're just maybe some octopus and a dozen natural

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Speaker 1: And the next thing, you know, Nick Jonas walks in.

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Speaker 1: Was it Nick or Joe? I'm not sure? Kevin Kevin

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Speaker 1: Jonas Jonahs brothers turned.

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Speaker 2: Up a Jonas brother and there was Nick and getting

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Speaker 2: back to himself.

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Speaker 1: With another woman. And I was like, tell me, I

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Speaker 1: don't want to see this. Because we love Sophie Turner,

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Speaker 1: because we love Game of Throne.

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Speaker 2: Oh can I say something else that Sophie talked about.

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Speaker 2: I mean, as much as the people of Sydney are

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Speaker 2: probably loving you here loving hearing you, yeah, talking about

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Speaker 2: having a dozen oysters. Sophie has also said that she

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Speaker 2: she always hated the fact that the wives were treated

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Speaker 2: like groupies, not by the boys themselves or their husbands,

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Speaker 2: but they were always the plus ones, and they were

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Speaker 2: even called the wives. So I guess when they were

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Speaker 2: organizing functions and things, it's like, okay, what are the

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Speaker 2: boys doing. We've got Kevin, Nick and Joe, and what

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Speaker 2: are the wives doing? And for someone like Sophie or

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Speaker 2: any any wife like, we have a name, we have

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Speaker 2: a life of our own, We have a career of

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Speaker 2: our own. Is it okay if you address me by

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Speaker 2: my name not? Rather than put me in a little

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Speaker 2: group too long?

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Speaker 1: Why am I going to name three girls when I

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Speaker 1: can just say the wives? See warny, that's where it starts.

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Speaker 2: Though, if you start, we're not even giving me an individual.

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Speaker 1: Natives said we get the girls over here and the

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Speaker 1: boys over there, you'd know what to do.

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Speaker 2: No, I think I think it's it's not it's a bigger.

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Speaker 2: It's much bigger. I'd like to think your life's big

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Speaker 2: and important and stuff like that. But I think that

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Speaker 2: being called the wives publicly and privately and by all

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Speaker 2: the friends and the record companies and things like that.

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Speaker 1: You think, wat you a bit down? Yeah? I do, well,

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Speaker 1: I would would you say that the Jonahs brothers are

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Speaker 1: on your bast now? Like are they off limits? Slashed?

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Speaker 2: But you know what I mean, Call me controversial, but

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Speaker 2: say it. I've got a few things going on in

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Speaker 2: my life that means I don't get to dig deep

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Speaker 2: on the Jonas brothers every day how I feel about them.

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Speaker 2: But I have to say, hearing from Sophie Turner look

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Speaker 2: looking forward to British Vogue has really got me up

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Speaker 2: and about today.

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