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Speaker 1: Our next guest tragically lost her partner, Olympic snowboarder Alex

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Speaker 1: Chumpy pulland in twenty twenty one year later, through IVF,

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Speaker 1: she welcomed their.

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Speaker 2: Miracle child, Mini into the world.

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Speaker 1: Now she's a supermum and author, host of the successful

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Speaker 1: podcast Darling Shine and founder of the Chumpy pulland Foundations.

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Speaker 2: Hey Chumpy would be so proud.

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Speaker 1: Well, please welcome to the show, the Beautiful Alerdie pulland

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Speaker 1: Hey Mowning.

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Speaker 2: Hey guys, thanks so much for having me.

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Speaker 3: That's all.

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Speaker 1: We're excited to have you here. Welcome to Melbourne. You're

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Speaker 1: a Gold Coast girl. How are you coping in this Melbourne,

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Speaker 1: beautiful Melbourne morning.

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Speaker 2: It's actually been raining a lot at home though now,

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Speaker 2: so I'm kind of I'm kind of loving that the

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Speaker 2: rain and the cold actually surprisingly.

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Speaker 3: Just before we move on, can you confirm something for us?

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Speaker 4: Mum of the show, Lauren was up at the Fisher

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Speaker 4: Content on the coast the other day. How she claims

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Speaker 4: that she didn't get on anyone's shoulders.

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Speaker 3: Can you confirm or demid I did know?

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Speaker 2: Did you not? I did not? All the other moms

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Speaker 2: did I did not? Oh my gosh, yeah, I stayed

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Speaker 2: down to It was quite hard. People like get up

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Speaker 2: on my shoulds. I'm like, do not freaking lift me out?

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Speaker 3: Why Lauren was saying walking on the sand was hard enough.

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Speaker 1: While we're talking about Fisher were both there. That show

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Speaker 1: was unbelievable, wasn't it in his hometown? Forty thousand people

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Speaker 2: That was ridiculous. I've seen heaps of shows, and that

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Speaker 2: one tops it. Like, I don't know, something to do

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Speaker 2: with being at home and on a beach and that

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Speaker 2: many people just frothing at the same time. I was like,

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Speaker 2: imagine making thirty or forty thousand people just so stoked

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Speaker 2: and like community. It was just so beautiful.

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Speaker 1: He's just canceled all these concerts in New York because

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Speaker 1: Chloe Fisher, who's your best friend, who has documented her

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Speaker 1: IVF journey so publicly, is in the hospital potentially in

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Speaker 2: How she going. So she's just on bed rest at

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Speaker 2: the moment, because you know, she's super busy, and I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think it's just the universe saying slow down. So

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Speaker 2: bub and her are both She's just resting. So the

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Speaker 2: baby could come like tomorrow, but it could actually come

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Speaker 2: in four weeks, so like it's just all very unknown

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Speaker 2: as she's just relaxing. So she's all good.

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Speaker 3: Everything's all good.

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Speaker 5: So the book Elidie, and also the podcast is sort

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Speaker 5: of warts and all. Is it like, what does it

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Speaker 5: detail and how important is it for you to sort

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Speaker 5: of articulate that in words?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's honestly like therapy for me. So the podcast,

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Speaker 2: Clo and I jump on and we get we get

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Speaker 2: a lot of guests on, but we chat a lot

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Speaker 2: of monkst just her and I about like grief and

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Speaker 2: miscarriage and loss and trauma, like I've obviously lost Chumpy

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Speaker 2: and then I'm doing a single motherhood alone. And then yeah,

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Speaker 2: she's had a bunch of miscarriages and really struggle with

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Speaker 2: her fertility. Thank god she's about to you know, have

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Speaker 2: her beautiful little bundle of joy soon. But yeah, we

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Speaker 2: just chat about all all the it's really nice womanhood

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Speaker 1: So well, for those who haven't read the book, your

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Speaker 1: partner Chumpy, who was a friend of mine, He was

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Speaker 1: just the best bloke in the world. He tragically passed

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Speaker 1: away in twenty two and you've gone on to have

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Speaker 1: your baby together without him through an extraordinary circumstance. Can

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Speaker 1: you just briefly touch on how you managed to create

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Speaker 1: a family together.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's actually crazy. We were trying for a baby

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Speaker 2: for Oh I can see Mini waving through the glass

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Speaker 2: right now were she.

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Speaker 3: Was doing the wrap up signal.

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Speaker 2: But she looks so much like him to this crazy.

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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, DNA. But so we were trying for

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Speaker 2: a baby for a while, weren't falling pregnant, we were

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Speaker 2: actually about to do IVF. So when he passed, we

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Speaker 2: And yeah, I mean, it just it felt right. It

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Speaker 2: on his legacy. And I'm just like I couldn't imagine.

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Speaker 2: None of us could imagine imagine how last.

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Speaker 4: I'm so extraordinary is like your head would have been

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Speaker 4: in so many different areas. You're going through grief, but

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Speaker 4: also you're trying to create life at the same time,

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Speaker 2: I did have to go through such a roller coaster

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Speaker 2: of went you know what I think this is the

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Speaker 2: right thing to do, And it kind of just came

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Speaker 2: to be, but I've got to make the first appointments

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Speaker 2: and just see because I was thinking, i'veya so hard regardless,

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Speaker 5: And this this is your decision, right, But what was

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Speaker 5: the reaction like, because I mean, people, I.

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Speaker 3: Know, you don't exactly.

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Speaker 5: Everyone's got everyone wanted to give their two bobs worth? Yeah,

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Speaker 5: you know, did that come into your mind at all?

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Speaker 5: Did that play on your mind?

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Speaker 2: It was a thought, but it wasn't going to define

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Speaker 2: my like what I was going to do with my

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Speaker 2: close to us was just completely backing me and stoked

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Speaker 2: with what we were doing. So it wasn't like, to

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Speaker 2: be honest, you kind of need to not care what

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Speaker 5: Courageous in that respect because it must be daunting having

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Speaker 2: I'm really good at like blocking out beats all. I

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Speaker 2: I just don't read that.

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Speaker 1: That stuff well, and I think you've just lost your partner.

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Speaker 1: You've been through worse than some sole on the internet

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Speaker 1: telling you what.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, happy Mother's Day for the weekend.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. It's actually my birthday on Sunday as well.

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Speaker 2: A bit of a double whammy.

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Speaker 3: There, Are you loving it?

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Speaker 2: I am loving it?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I honestly like so cliche, but like I just

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Speaker 4: We're just comparing war stories because we're both in the

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Speaker 4: Terrible two star.

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Speaker 2: It's pretty cute. From the gets worse and worse, but

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Speaker 1: Become a bit of a superstar in our own right.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you see Peter floating around festivals.

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Speaker 4: Holding concept people are holding up like posters on them.

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Speaker 2: I know it's hey, baby, comes sit here, you.

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Speaker 1: Want to say hi?

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Speaker 2: Why don't you say hello? I'm a bit shy.

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Speaker 3: Do you see so much of chumping?

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Speaker 2: You know? I do? I see it massively in the

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Speaker 2: which is crazy because she can't see him. Well, I

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Speaker 2: don't know, like she's she's not watching his mannerisms, you know,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're taking a bunch of single moms out for

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Speaker 1: don't think about it until someone you know or love

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Speaker 2: The most dangerous.

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Speaker 1: But how important is it when you have a child

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Speaker 1: that people need to rally around you, especially if you're

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Speaker 2: Yeah, honestly, I don't know what I would do without,

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Speaker 2: like my village that's been around me since day dot.

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Speaker 5: What will you tell Minnie about her dad?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I show her videos of him all the time.

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Speaker 2: He listened to his music, we watched like his videos

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Speaker 2: of Chumpy dancing or whatever. She loves that.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's so sweet. I mean, he was he was

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Speaker 1: an amazing man. You're Chumpy and you you are just

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Speaker 1: doing it so well. I know this has not been

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Speaker 1: easy for you, but You're just such an amazing woman,

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Speaker 1: your book, the podcast, Everything's flying. Congratulations.

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Speaker 2: Thank you guys so much.

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Speaker 1: We got a Chumpy pull and gala tomorrow night. I

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Speaker 1: know it's sold out, but that's going to be a

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Speaker 1: pretty special night honoring Chumpy as well.

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Speaker 3: She just offered Clinton Night to come down and serve drinks.

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Speaker 2: I heard her say, do you guys want to come?

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Speaker 1: Actually, there's no tickets on the staff table.

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Speaker 2: I'll turn my table of you already extended to fourteen,

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Speaker 2: and you guys are coming.

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Speaker 3: We'll re see fellows at the oscars were friends of yours.

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Speaker 4: Get up together bathroom Clinton and I'll run over. Hey,

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Speaker 4: ALIDI thank you so much for coming in. Happy Mother's

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Speaker 4: Day and Happy Birthday for the weekend as well.

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Speaker 2: Thank you guys so much for having means anytime, any time,

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Speaker 2: Lauren wake.

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Speaker 1: Up feeling good. I know one hundred Jason, Lauren, Well,

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Speaker 1: go on socials.

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Speaker 2: MHM