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Speaker 1: Him, I boris and this is straight talk.

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Speaker 2: Is Nick curios Andrey authoritarian?

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Speaker 3: A little bit?

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Speaker 2: Like in other words, I'm not going to tell a

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Speaker 2: tell me I've got to do something. I'm going to

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Speaker 2: andy authority and I'm not making a judgment on it.

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Speaker 2: Is that the sort of person you clearly were like that?

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Speaker 2: But is that part of your DNA?

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Speaker 4: I think I just like to challenge and I'm very

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Speaker 4: even when I was in the academy. When I was twelve,

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Speaker 3: I was like, why am I doing this?

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Speaker 4: Like, well, like I need reasoning as to why you've

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Speaker 4: I'm always questioning and wanting to find the real root

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Speaker 4: I don't agree with something, I'm just going to say

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Speaker 3: Here is what I think. I think that's normal and

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Speaker 4: Like if everyone just kind of rocks up to a

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Speaker 4: It's like, well then you should do something else. Like

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Speaker 2: You're not rebellious, yes, but you ask a question.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, I think. And that's how I think people

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Speaker 4: They lack they lack that they like this generation coming up,

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Speaker 4: they lack asking questions. They just follow their rule followers.

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Speaker 4: They think what they're being told is the right thing.

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Speaker 4: Like they don't ask questions, so they just they're all

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Speaker 3: Like it's it's weird. I feel super uncomfortable.

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Speaker 2: It's funny because like one of your clos associates, Matt,

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Speaker 2: thinking to myself, it's a rule based mindset, and I say,

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Speaker 2: don't get about the money.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not about it. It's just like you should.

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Speaker 2: Be okay, you should be okay, and it's and they're

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Speaker 2: the sorts of people, those sort of that sort of

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Speaker 2: think to what it takes to be a great sports person,

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Speaker 2: because you've got to take risks definitely on the court,

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Speaker 2: your character is risk taking? And when has it turned around?

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Speaker 4: Think risk taking like in the tennis sense, when I

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Speaker 4: It's like it's risk taking, but the more risk I take,

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Speaker 4: is it really risk taking? It's like the more aggressive

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Speaker 3: And that's just how I've been in my life.

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Speaker 4: It's like the more enthusiastic I've been, the more like

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Speaker 4: It's like I've only known to be like Flamboyant or

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Speaker 4: it's like, at least it was, Like my mentality is

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Speaker 2: So so therefore, when you take risks, it sort of

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Speaker 2: so because when I watch you play tennis, it looks

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Speaker 2: that you're using your presence to sort of like overwhelm, like,

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Speaker 1: My god, what he's going to do next.

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Speaker 2: That's a good strategy because that's always worth obviously, yes,

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Speaker 2: because you've always been that person in your whole life.

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Speaker 1: You're bigger than everybody else.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I've always tried to keep I mean, that's my

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Speaker 3: We don't know what's coming.

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Speaker 4: Just get like gear up and it could be a

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Speaker 4: four hours mental and physical roller coaster. And that's I

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Speaker 4: Like in my mind, I'm trying to take them back

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Speaker 4: That's my mental is to drag him down to that

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Speaker 4: I feel uncomfortable like me, it could be me just

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Speaker 2: Possible and unpredictable and unpredictable.

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Speaker 4: And then it's worked my majority of time. Anyone that

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Speaker 4: I've nearly won the most immortal event the tennis has

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Speaker 3: I'm only human. You know.

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Speaker 2: It's funny, you know that when you say that, because

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Speaker 2: The unpredictability of this guy called Nick Curios, especially for

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Speaker 2: Curios who works out the strategy or do you sort

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Speaker 3: No, no it's it's my team has now realized.

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Speaker 4: LIKE i don't know what goes in this inside my

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Speaker 1: Want how?

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Speaker 3: Yeah and that's and to, me people, like, oh that's

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Speaker 4: giving like people like just something that they to make

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Speaker 4: sitting there and like nothing's. Happening Like i'm not SAYING

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Speaker 4: i want someone to get injured or, something BUT i

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Speaker 3: Rush and Hopefully i'll give that to people When i'm on.

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Speaker 2: Court because you just said some really good it's a.

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Speaker 3: Show it.

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Speaker 1: Is it's a.

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Speaker 2: Show and you know when you look at your mates Of,

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Speaker 4: Colosseum what he does is like The new age. Colisseums

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Speaker 2: got to be. CAREFUL i don't become nick curios the.

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Speaker 7: ME i was really just buying time UNTIL i could

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Speaker 7: that and that was All Eddie murphy's. Delirious so you

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Speaker 7: getting exposure WHICH i never. Got. Right, so my first

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Speaker 7: And Ted's Excellent. ADVENTURE i never saw A George carlin.

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Speaker 7: SPECIAL i never saw AN hbo special someone doing comedy

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Speaker 7: for an. Hour all we had was people doing comedy

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Speaker 7: for about five minutes on a late night show On Steve.

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Speaker 7: Wizard once a, month maybe you'd get a. Comedian and

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Speaker 7: they had A tv show on THE abc Called The Big,

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Speaker 7: gig and The Big Gig Wendy harmer and different comics

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Speaker 7: McK mlloyan all that And Rob. SITCH i used to

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Speaker 7: Difference between my parents didn't buy comedy. Albums there was no.

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Speaker 7: for one, special and that Was Eddie Murphy's delirious And

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Speaker 7: Eddie Murphy's. Raw, eventually but that Stage delirious And delirious

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Speaker 7: if my father, WENT i got he's doing a bit

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Speaker 7: and still to this day is sort of WHY i

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Speaker 7: hills cop AND i thought that guy was just everything to,

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Speaker 7: it and went in and went and Saw Anthony, morgan

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Speaker 7: and that was the first Time i'd seen stand up comedy,

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Speaker 7: And i've still never Met anthony and he doesn't do much,

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Speaker 7: comedy But i'd love to give that guy a hug

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Speaker 7: because that was a real pivotal moment in my, life

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Speaker 7: Beyonce fuck, YEAH i am, too, RIGHT i. Am on my,

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Speaker 7: with nothing but a. Microphone, Right and that's really that's

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Speaker 7: a fair. Point with nothing but a, microphone, RIGHT i can.

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Speaker 7: ENTERTAIN i saw that the road. LEAVE i can entertain

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Speaker 7: Seen people talk in front of rooms full of people

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Speaker 7: teachers you know WHAT i. Mean i'd seen people stand

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Speaker 7: for like stand, up can do real, punchy your best

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Speaker 7: SO i thought more than seeing you, Know i've Seen

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Speaker 7: paul McCartney in. Concert i've seen you, know great art

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Speaker 7: Of Elton, john like great. Music it's like great, musicians

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Speaker 7: and it's amazing when you watch, them like how do

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Speaker 7: i don't know why musicians even bother naming their fucking

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Speaker 7: tours because there's beans bands THAT i, Like Like i've

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Speaker 7: Seen oasis live fifteen. Times the tour is always the.

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Speaker 7: Same they can name it something, else but it's always

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Speaker 7: the old albums and IF i played one of my old,

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Speaker 7: keep on bringing him out all the. Time if you

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Speaker 7: do stand up comedy at a certain, level once you

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Speaker 7: record a, joke you have to not, everybody Like seinfeld

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Speaker 7: has a different theory on. This he reckons you keep

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Speaker 7: SO i got nine specials and A, cd SO i

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Speaker 7: of stand up or something like. That but it's all different,

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Speaker 7: stuff you, know some of it's better than, others and

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Speaker 7: then there's some more iconic pieces and stuff like. That

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Speaker 7: just crack on about gun control again Because I've i've done.

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Speaker 7: It so there's a bigger WORKLOAD i think involved in

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Speaker 7: live touring for a.

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Speaker 2: about BECAUSE i, mean it's funny you should say, that

434
00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:13,760
Speaker 2: BECAUSE i, Mean i'm always on a comedy AND i

435
00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:16,679
Speaker 2: go into YouTube usually because i'm seeing looking On. Netflix

436
00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:18,520
Speaker 2: there's a lot of old stuff on, there And i've

437
00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:21,960
Speaker 2: seen it, all And i've watched you and you Mentioned

438
00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:24,240
Speaker 2: Bill burr and then and.

439
00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:25,560
Speaker 1: He's, like he's, larious lovely.

440
00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:27,960
Speaker 2: MAN i like the way he gets sort of yells

441
00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:29,720
Speaker 2: at me and gets me thinking about.

442
00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:33,120
Speaker 7: Myself he is going to slip very easily into being

443
00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:35,360
Speaker 7: an old. Man he's already, comaginate but.

444
00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:36,240
Speaker 3: He's a sweet.

445
00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:39,560
Speaker 2: Guy and he's BUT i like his, content but it's.

446
00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:41,520
Speaker 2: Funny you should say what you said BECAUSE i keep

447
00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:44,439
Speaker 2: either NO I i've seen that one or, not and

448
00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:46,520
Speaker 2: BECAUSE i don't want to see it, again same as

449
00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:47,720
Speaker 2: you WHEN i look at your, STUFF i don't.

450
00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:47,920
Speaker 1: Want to see it.

451
00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:50,440
Speaker 2: Again you're, right that's quite interesting between that and the

452
00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:53,120
Speaker 2: difference between the singing because or a. Musician because you're

453
00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:54,439
Speaker 2: right when it comes to music.

454
00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:55,960
Speaker 1: And what the funk, way where are all the old?

455
00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:59,440
Speaker 7: Songs because you want to tap your foot along with the, music.

456
00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:00,840
Speaker 1: He's a more memorable memory or?

457
00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:03,399
Speaker 7: Nostalgia do you want to tap your foot along with

458
00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:06,679
Speaker 7: the music and know when the chorus is? Coming and with,

459
00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:10,000
Speaker 7: comedy you want to be, surprised, Right, Okay so so

460
00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:12,040
Speaker 7: music is about being.

461
00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:13,479
Speaker 1: Familiar comedy is about being.

462
00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:16,680
Speaker 7: Surprised, yeah. Comedy music is about. Memories surprise.

463
00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:16,879
Speaker 3: Me.

464
00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:19,439
Speaker 7: Yeah you want to hear a? Joke, yeah give, ME

465
00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:23,120
Speaker 7: i don't have. One i'll tell you pub, jake let

466
00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:25,639
Speaker 7: me think Of, okay this joke is a name drop for,

467
00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:28,840
Speaker 7: you was told to me By Jay. Leno whenever anyone

468
00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:30,520
Speaker 7: asks for a pub, Jake this is the pub JOKE i.

469
00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:34,360
Speaker 7: Give so who knows who wrote? This but what's the pub?

470
00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:35,920
Speaker 7: Jake he, Goes so there's a guy who finds A

471
00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:40,280
Speaker 7: genie's bottle and he rubs. It genie comes out and he,

472
00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:43,439
Speaker 7: goes you have two, wishes and the guy, WENT i

473
00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:45,920
Speaker 7: THOUGHT i get three. Wishes he goes check your pants

474
00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:47,480
Speaker 7: and he looks down he's got a, great big, Dick

475
00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:49,800
Speaker 7: and the jenny, Goes i've been doing this a long.

476
00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:55,120
Speaker 7: Time that's a good pub, joke, Right and the good

477
00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:57,760
Speaker 7: thing about that joke is now you can tell it your,

478
00:20:57,800 --> 00:20:59,439
Speaker 7: friends and you can tell it your friends and then

479
00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,240
Speaker 7: they will spread like a fucking std and everyone will enjoy,

480
00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:04,280
Speaker 7: it just like an, sdds just like good Dick.

481
00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:08,440
Speaker 2: Jack what was it then About Eddie murphy that actually

482
00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:12,320
Speaker 2: got you enthralled about being a? Comedian, like was it his?

483
00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:15,080
Speaker 2: Content was it about how the accoladesy goy was the

484
00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:15,919
Speaker 2: fact that he just made you?

485
00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:17,000
Speaker 1: Laugh he made me?

486
00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:21,240
Speaker 7: Laugh but also just cool? Man he is a cool,

487
00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:24,199
Speaker 7: dude because, like, okay SO i.

488
00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,040
Speaker 1: Don't know that means cool? Man what do you? Mean

489
00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:26,919
Speaker 1: he's just cool?

490
00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:30,960
Speaker 7: Man it's like it's like Before Eddie. Murphy, Right so

491
00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:34,760
Speaker 7: there's there's arguments with comedy where you can have higher

492
00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,920
Speaker 7: status and lower status than the, crowd, right you can

493
00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:41,280
Speaker 7: be above them or below. Them for the most, Part

494
00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:47,119
Speaker 7: british comedy and Somewhat australian, comedy Definitely New zealand. Comedy

495
00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:51,359
Speaker 7: for some, reason the comedian normally has a lower, status, right.

496
00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:53,639
Speaker 1: Really, Yeah like that's the, thing is?

497
00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:59,720
Speaker 7: It so like Mister, bean Mister, bean bumbling, idiot, Right

498
00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:05,960
Speaker 7: Frank spencer bumbling? Idiot, Right Eddie murphy cool, right being

499
00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:09,439
Speaker 7: the same as everyone in the, audience Doesn't it's not,

500
00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:10,960
Speaker 7: funny you?

501
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:11,119
Speaker 8: Know?

502
00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:14,120
Speaker 7: So so Like cleice could Play John clees could play

503
00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,480
Speaker 7: above and below depending on What sketchy, did he could

504
00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,520
Speaker 7: do above or below and. So But Eddie murphy was

505
00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:24,399
Speaker 7: always cooler THAN i could ever fucking, be, man cooler

506
00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:24,879
Speaker 7: THAN i could ever.

507
00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:25,439
Speaker 3: Be AND i met.

508
00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:30,360
Speaker 7: Him i've met him, twice and and you, Know i've

509
00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,520
Speaker 7: met a lot of famous people doing this, job and

510
00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:37,760
Speaker 7: But Eddie murphy is the most Starstruck i've been to,

511
00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,199
Speaker 7: meet to meet the human. Being AND i met him

512
00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:43,880
Speaker 7: once At James packard's birthday party WHERE i was employed

513
00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:46,920
Speaker 7: to be the entertainment AND i was sitting in the.

514
00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,119
Speaker 7: Kitchen Mariah carey had paid for me to be.

515
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,080
Speaker 1: There must a couple years ago, then, yeah.

516
00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:52,439
Speaker 7: Yeah Mariah, carey it's not.

517
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,280
Speaker 2: Recent mike care would be a couple of years. Ago,

518
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,000
Speaker 2: yeah you know this is BEFORE, Covid.

519
00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,440
Speaker 1: Yeah before. Covered that's when they were. Engaged, yeah when they're.

520
00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,199
Speaker 7: Engaged and so SO i was in the. KITCHEN i

521
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 7: was in the, kitchen AND i normally don't do corporate,

522
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,560
Speaker 7: gigs but the money was, right and, that you know, whatever,

523
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,000
Speaker 7: RIGHT i was sitting in the. KITCHEN i meant to

524
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,639
Speaker 7: be the surprise birthday. Gift you, know you're you're a

525
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,080
Speaker 7: you're a wealthy. Man you know how it is right

526
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:19,200
Speaker 7: when you, guys don't you rich? People you don't get?

527
00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:22,160
Speaker 7: Presents do you? Get you get other human beings performing?

528
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:22,560
Speaker 3: Tricks?

529
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:27,000
Speaker 7: Right you, know you buy, Experiences you're, right experiences rather

530
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,920
Speaker 7: than material because any material thing you want you can.

531
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,399
Speaker 7: Get but then every now AND i get someone, GO

532
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:34,080
Speaker 7: i just bought you a thing to go do this,

533
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,639
Speaker 7: thing go drag race a. Car oh, brilliant because you

534
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,400
Speaker 7: never would have bought that for, Yourself you're, right, Right,

535
00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:45,159
Speaker 7: so so So i'm in the kitchen when you go

536
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,479
Speaker 7: out And i'm shipping myself and then Our pacino And

537
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,679
Speaker 7: Warren batty And Leonardo DiCaprio and all these people at

538
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:52,960
Speaker 7: this bloody, dinner, Right And i'm sitting there in the

539
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:56,400
Speaker 7: dressing room in the, kitchen being hidden, away and they've

540
00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:58,920
Speaker 7: given me a, meal the same meal as Then i'm off.

541
00:23:58,800 --> 00:23:59,439
Speaker 3: Of the kitchen of.

542
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,639
Speaker 7: Yourself And Eddie murphy comes in AND i can't get.

543
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,840
Speaker 7: Impersonation but he walks up to one of the he

544
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:07,879
Speaker 7: was there, Too, yeah he was. There he walks up

545
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:09,679
Speaker 7: to one of the catering. People he, GOES i need

546
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 7: a solda or something that sold a little drink or

547
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:13,159
Speaker 7: that is, Right and he looked at. Me AND i

548
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,280
Speaker 7: used to have a sitcom Called legit that was ON,

549
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:20,840
Speaker 7: fx and in THAT i had a it was based

550
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 7: on a true, story BUT i had a friend who was, disabled,

551
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:25,920
Speaker 7: Right and he, goes, oh no. You he, goes you

552
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 7: do you do THE tv show with the disabled? Boy you?

553
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 7: Show you knew my? SHIRT i was, like, yeah, YEAH i,

554
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 7: DO i do do. This he, goes what are you doing?

555
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 7: Here AND i, Said i'm going to do this stand

556
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:41,680
Speaker 7: up for the dinner. Party and he, goes there is

557
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:43,119
Speaker 7: no way that's going to work. Out and then he

558
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 7: left AND i was, like oh. No my favorite comedian,

559
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:48,120
Speaker 7: Said i've just got an unachievable.

560
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:55,159
Speaker 8: Task i'm very very particular about HOW i go about my,

561
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 8: work And i'm very much focused on the individual and

562
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,639
Speaker 8: then their overall quality of, life and then their relational

563
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 8: and sexual quality of life as. Well so if they

564
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,639
Speaker 8: do have a, partner if one person has a, problem

565
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 8: it is also a couple's problem as. Well SO i

566
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,199
Speaker 8: do bring the partner, in BUT i want to make

567
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 8: sure they're getting very specific recommendations for their individual.

568
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 2: Needs and do, YOU i, mean how important is the

569
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 2: follow up? PROCESS i mean do you sort of, say,

570
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:24,439
Speaker 2: okay go and try. THIS i would like to know

571
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 2: tomorrow morning the result of what you tried the night,

572
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,800
Speaker 2: before or do you just make another, point like what's

573
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 2: the process and how is? It how do you encourage

574
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 2: people to be really open with you and. Honest you

575
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:37,919
Speaker 2: listen to.

576
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,199
Speaker 8: The, podcast you'll find that people are very open and

577
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 8: honest with. Me, Now i'm very good at my job

578
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:46,480
Speaker 8: at making people feel extremely. Comfortable it's a very safe.

579
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:50,399
Speaker 8: Situation it's a non judgmental. Space my job is to

580
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,359
Speaker 8: hear all of their, questions AND i don't have a.

581
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 8: Bias i'm just there to help them AND i want

582
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 8: them to feel seen, her it understood and. Supported it's

583
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:03,640
Speaker 8: me and them against whatever problems that they. Have in

584
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 8: regards to the follow up, Process i'll generally see someone

585
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 8: for a fifty minute appointment and then i'll see them

586
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 8: maybe three weeks, later because they have to have enough

587
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 8: time to implement some of the strategies THAT i give

588
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 8: them effective homework home. PLAY i like to call it home.

589
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 3: Play.

590
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 8: Yeah work, Yet, yeah we've got enough work going, on don't.

591
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 8: We we're all a little bit. Stressed SO i try

592
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,879
Speaker 8: and and it might be simple things, like you, know

593
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 8: change up the time in which you're trying to have.

594
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,919
Speaker 8: Playtime so maybe ten pm on a weeknight is not

595
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,640
Speaker 8: the right time for you because you're absolutely cooked and

596
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 8: your partner's, Cooked and then it's kind of. Robotic why

597
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 8: don't you Try sunday morning so you've had a day

598
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 8: off to, rest you might have done something that has

599
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 8: filled your cup and made you feel really. Good and

600
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 8: Then sunday morning so you can sleep in and then

601
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,160
Speaker 8: just have a relaxing time where you can engage with each.

602
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 8: Other or if it's an, Individual i'll, say you, know

603
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 8: what maybe you should try going out and not having

604
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 8: so many drinks when you go, out or forming a

605
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,399
Speaker 8: connection with someone instead of one night stands and so

606
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 8: we talk through the dating, process or you know how

607
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,879
Speaker 8: to feel confident in their chat, game for. Example so

608
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 8: sometimes sex is the last THING i talk about in my.

609
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 2: Sessions why is sexual health so? Important why is it

610
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,639
Speaker 2: important to any one? Individual what's the? Reason is it

611
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 2: because of the chemistry releases of all the various, hormones

612
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 2: et cetera that come about as a result of having,

613
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:32,359
Speaker 2: it or is it about just about. Intimacy what's the

614
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:33,199
Speaker 2: reason why it's so?

615
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,639
Speaker 8: Important The World Health organization sees that as a fundamental

616
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:40,120
Speaker 8: part of our quality of life and our, health not

617
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,880
Speaker 8: only for the way that impacts our body in various positive,

618
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 8: Ways so the endorphins that get, released the dopamine, responses the,

619
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:52,160
Speaker 8: oxytocin the, bonding the love, hormones but also it's great

620
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,199
Speaker 8: for cardiovascular, health it's great for stress, relief it's great for.

621
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,919
Speaker 8: Sleep there are so many physical benefits of. It but

622
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:02,639
Speaker 8: from an intimate emotional point of, view you, know the

623
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:06,120
Speaker 8: way that you can connect with yourself is very. Important

624
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 8: so how you feel about, yourself especially as an erotic,

625
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,879
Speaker 8: being because sex and eroticism is really it's somewhere that you.

626
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 8: Go it's not just something that you do. Right it's

627
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 8: a place that you can go with your, mind with

628
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:21,639
Speaker 8: the way that you. Touch it's a sensory experience and

629
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:26,399
Speaker 8: it can be really incredibly beautiful if we don't LOSE i,

630
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 8: guess the goal of making it. BEAUTIFUL i think a

631
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 8: lot of the time people get into this rhythm where they,

632
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 8: GO i have to be doing this because it means

633
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 8: that you, know A i'm. Successful they start looking at

634
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 8: the goal of, sex so penetration and orgasm if we're

635
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 8: talking about cis hetero. Relationships they lose the fact that

636
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 8: sex is about pleasure and connection and feeling into someone

637
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 8: or into yourself with your, body with your. Mind it's

638
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 8: such a beautiful. EXPERIENCE i just think that we grew

639
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 8: up OR i definitely grew up with a lot of

640
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 8: movies that kind of showed it as a bit of

641
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 8: a novelty or a silly, thing or something that we

642
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 8: have to be ashamed. ABOUT i, MEAN i grew up

643
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 8: with The american pie, era so that was when my

644
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 8: guys were fucking pies like it doesn't make it look that, sexy,

645
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 8: Right and it was all, about you, know the penis

646
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 8: and all about the pleasure of the penis or, LIKE

647
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 8: i don't. Know it was kind of just dumb and.

648
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 8: Silly AND i think as a, female as a feminine,

649
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 8: PERSON i never learned that pleasure was for. Me and

650
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 8: a lot of my. FRIENDS i went to an all girls,

651
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 8: school A catholic, SCHOOL a lot of them didn't know

652
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 8: that pleasure was for. Them AND i see the difficulties

653
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 8: that they've had over the, years thinking a SHOULD i

654
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,239
Speaker 8: be doing, this because there's a lot of shame that

655
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 8: when you come from like a different religion, background but

656
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 8: also the fact that you never get asked about consent

657
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 8: or we never learned about consent or boundaries or how

658
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 8: to ask for what we. Want so my job is

659
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 8: to really make people feel empowered in their sexual, experiences

660
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 8: but also within themselves and their boundaries and their, pleasure

661
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 8: asking for what they, want saying no setting boundaries, around

662
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 8: even like timings when you're dating someone new and going

663
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 8: you don't have to rush into. Anything we had an

664
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 8: event last night for My audible, series and there was

665
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 8: a woman there who was, like how do you ask

666
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 8: someone she would have been in her. FORTIES i think she's,

667
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 8: like what do you mean you prioritize? Yourself, like how

668
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 8: do you prioritize yourself as a? Woman you, Know i'm

669
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 8: meant to be doing the, washing the, cleaning you, know cooking.

670
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 8: Food how AM i meant to ask for WHAT i

671
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 8: want in the? Bedroom and she's, LIKE i listened to

672
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 8: half an episode of your sex therapy series AND i

673
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 8: had to stop because it was so confronting for me

674
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 8: Because i've never learned That i'm allowed to ask for

675
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 8: pleasure Or i'm allowed to ask FOR i. Want so

676
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 8: that was a really interesting experience AND i hope to

677
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 8: see her in my clinic maybe one. Day but the fact,

678
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 8: is if you can feel empowered in your erotic experiences

679
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 8: and in yourself and your self, worth then you can

680
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 8: really conquer a lot of other domains of your life as.

681
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 2: Well you said something very interesting a moment. Ago but

682
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 2: when we're talking ABOUT i Guess i've got to be

683
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 2: careful saying HOW i delineate. This but just by way

684
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 2: of example a, woman you, said you have to know

685
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 2: how to put out boundaries like THINGS i don't want

686
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 2: you to, Do but you also have to open up

687
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 2: a door to get things that you do want someone

688
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 2: to do or things that you do want to. Do

689
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 2: is you go sort of putting up a, fance but

690
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 2: you're also putting up a gate as.

691
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 1: Well, yeah so.

692
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 8: You can look at it as like if you're driving

693
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 8: like a car and your sexual, experiences you have a green.

694
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 8: Light all the things THAT i say yes, TO i

695
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 8: do want to do. Them i've told You i'm so

696
00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 8: comfortable with these. Experiences and then we have the. Amberlte

697
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 8: this is a, maybe this is a proceed with. Caution

698
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 8: you still you have to ask quite, regularly ongoing enthusiastic,

699
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 8: consent DO i want this or maybe today we don't try?

700
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 8: This so it's an, Amberlite and then there's a red.

701
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 8: Light this stuff is off the. TABLE i don't want

702
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 8: to try this, stuff don't even go. There it might

703
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 8: if we create a safe space together AND i feel,

704
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 8: really really comfortable and safe with, you we might move

705
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 8: some of those things that are in the red light

706
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 8: zone into the amber zone and see if we can try.

707
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 8: Them but they're are no for.

708
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 6: Now so.

709
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 2: When someone sets that process, up let's say it's the,

710
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 2: female for, example in a heterosexual, couple it's the. Female

711
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 2: how do you sort of reconcile that process with, say

712
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:56,479
Speaker 2: being sexually, Adventurous so, like how does how does that

713
00:32:56,600 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 2: individual indicate to the side the other person in the

714
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 2: relationship that they're prepared to be sexually adventurous and how

715
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 2: important is it to be sexually adventurous in terms of

716
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 2: Sex in terms of the advice that you give to

717
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 2: someone as a, therapist.

718
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 8: It's individualis you don't have to you can be. Vanilla

719
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 8: vanilla is great as, well depends on who you are

720
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 8: and what relationship you're. IN i think that probably because

721
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 8: of the society that we, have we view adventure as

722
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 8: something that we should be kind of aiming. Towards but

723
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 8: if you're happy and satisfied and it's, good it's great for,

724
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 8: you then that's absolutely. OKAY i think in regards to

725
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 8: setting up boundaries and then trying new, things these are

726
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 8: things that you can discuss outside the, bedroom, Right so

727
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 8: you never want to be in a situation with someone

728
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 8: where they're, Like, okay well NOW i want to try

729
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 8: if we say something that's kind of extreme that is

730
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 8: happening quite a lot at the, MOMENT i want to try,

731
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 8: choking and you're, like, well, okay we've never talked about this.

732
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 8: Before or Now i'm, Here i'm, NAKED i mean your.

733
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 8: BEDS i feel really. Uncomfortable you can go into fight

734
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,879
Speaker 8: flight or, freeze and often people, freeze and that's when

735
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 8: you have people crossing over the boundaries of. Consent and

736
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 8: that's when you have either coercion or you can have.

737
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 8: Assault and it can be as small as asking someone

738
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 8: to do something that they don't want to do and

739
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 8: then not having the ability within their body or their

740
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 8: mind to problem solve because they've become so shocked that

741
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 8: they end up doing something that makes them feel really

742
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 8: uncomfortable or potentially.

743
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 2: Traumatized, yeah that's really. Interest so when would you suggest

744
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,840
Speaker 2: someone like when do they discuss, that like outside of the.

745
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 2: Bedroom for, SURE i recover a coffee or.

746
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 8: SOMETHING i don't think it has to be over a

747
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,840
Speaker 8: cup of. COFFEE i think for and you, KNOW i

748
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,439
Speaker 8: might be stereotyping a little bit, here BUT i think

749
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 8: for men masculine people, usually like driving a car works.

750
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 8: Through like when you're, driving when you're having like a

751
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 8: long trip together or you're going for a. Walk often

752
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 8: when there's other things that you can be focusing, on

753
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 8: so you can kind of just talk about it more

754
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 8: freely and not be looking at each other in the

755
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 8: eyes and being, like how do you feel ABOUT, A,

756
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 8: B c AND. D it doesn't have to be.

757
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 2: Oh by the, WAY i had that. Topic it's like

758
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 2: a by the way type. CONVERSATION i was listening.

759
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 8: To chintell's podcast the other day and then one of

760
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 8: the guys on there he was, trying you, know blah blah,

761
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,479
Speaker 8: blah AND i thought that was, like kind of. Cool

762
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 8: i'd love to know what your thoughts about it. Are

763
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,840
Speaker 8: maybe we should give that a, try or you, KNOW

764
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 8: i read this article about low desire and high, desire

765
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 8: AND i, think you, KNOW i would THINK i would

766
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 8: be more excited about trying some new things if we

767
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 8: were to create more of a safe space in our,

768
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 8: relationship and that, means you, know maybe talking about sex

769
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:42,840
Speaker 8: a little bit. MORE i know it's a bit weird and,

770
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 8: uncomfortable BUT i think the more we do, it the

771
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,359
Speaker 8: more we, practice the easier will.

772
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 2: BECOME i, actually curiously during that whole, conversation then you

773
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 2: never mentioned.

774
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 1: Cricket you just mentioned you.

775
00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 2: Whites how did day worn and become a cricketer or

776
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 2: what's the deal around. THERE i know you love Your raba,

777
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 2: league and we should put it out there straight.

778
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 1: Up he's a rooster's die, hard even though we Grow.

779
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 1: Mattreville he's a rooster's. Diehard that's. It where's you go to?

780
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 6: School Nashville public and Then Ramic boys Rum.

781
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 2: Boys, okay well there's a dispute over the, territory but you,

782
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,359
Speaker 2: know we'll take it at this. Stage we'll take him

783
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 2: as a. Rooster but how did you become a mad

784
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 2: talking in terms of, skill but a mad? Cricketer what

785
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 2: was the influence?

786
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 6: THERE i think WHEN i look, back my, brother who

787
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,840
Speaker 6: was seven years older than, me played With Arslan, kawaja

788
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 6: who Is Usman kawhija's, brother and we both were just

789
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 6: like playing up a way of the, oval throwing balls

790
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,879
Speaker 6: against the wall and hitting them and playing cricket with each.

791
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 6: Other AND i think it stems from from. THERE i

792
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 6: think having a brother that's older than you on that

793
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 6: path of trying to play cricket, professionally you learn a.

794
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 6: Lot AND i think because he is seven years older than,

795
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,360
Speaker 6: ME i learned a. Lot and it wasn't just cricket.

796
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 6: Ability he had the gift and the, talent your, brother my.

797
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 6: Brother it was just MORE i think for him that next.

798
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 6: Level we talk about. Maturity we talk about in between your,

799
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 6: ears which is your head making sure your mind's in.

800
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 6: It if your mind's not in, it you get, distracted

801
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 6: and then that deters you away from your talent and your,

802
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:27,879
Speaker 6: gift and that's playing. Cricket AND i think he at

803
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 6: some stage sort of flicked the switch around twenty two

804
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 6: to twenty three and went into sort of apprenticeships AND

805
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 6: i think if on ease with. That he did come

806
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 6: through a generation Of Stuart, Clark Michael, Slater Corey, richards

807
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 6: a few other guys Of warll. Brothers so we had

808
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 6: quite a tough task ahead of him to try and

809
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,760
Speaker 6: sort of get into that sort Of New South wales.

810
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 6: Setup and for me it was just about trying to

811
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 6: ride his journey as well for. Him and, yeah so

812
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 6: happened to. BE i played down At East Career, club

813
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 6: which was way at that Time Greg matthews. Around, Yep Greg.

814
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 6: MATTHEWS i played my first third grade great game with

815
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:11,320
Speaker 6: him at. SIXTEEN i think a, different different, EXPERIENCE i must, say.

816
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,359
Speaker 1: It's definitely different. Experience but we love, him we.

817
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 3: Do we love.

818
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 6: Him but, yeah from sixteen years of, AGE i got

819
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 6: my first great opportunity play with a few, Guys Mark,

820
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 6: Pattison Adrian, tucker Pad. Pado yeah pat was my first.

821
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:29,799
Speaker 6: Captain oh, really yeah he. WAS i played with some

822
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,839
Speaker 6: really cool. Men and WHEN i say, men that's where

823
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,320
Speaker 6: we are today in our, sport where we've got a

824
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 6: lot of kids coming. Through twenty years he, was he

825
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 6: would have been thirty five thirty six at that, time

826
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 6: just coming back From New South wales state. Stuff but

827
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 6: what that says to me is that we don't have

828
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 6: enough time to come back and play great cricket. Anymore

829
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 6: but that's where you grow as a. Kid you grow

830
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 6: with playing with. Men at the, moment you've got all

831
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 6: these different, sports a lot of kids coming, through but

832
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 6: that's why you got to hold onto the experience and

833
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 6: the experienced guys like, myself whether it's, cricket, rugby rugby LEAGUE,

834
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:08,359
Speaker 6: afl we need to hang on to try and teach

835
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,399
Speaker 6: these kids that it's not. Easy you have to put

836
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 6: in hard work and from WHEN i was eight nine

837
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 6: years of age watching my, brother that's where the hard work.

838
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:20,360
Speaker 2: Started but did you was it hard work in the

839
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 2: sense that it was grueling or was it hard work

840
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 2: in the sense that you had to be, committed you.

841
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 6: Had to be. Committed but the best thing for me

842
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,320
Speaker 6: WAS i was just having. Fun, yeah AND i still,

843
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 6: today still today go to get my game at cricket

844
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 6: Thinking i'm playing my. Mates that's all it. Is it's

845
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 6: not a job. There i'm having. Fun my job now

846
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:43,319
Speaker 6: is being a, dad being a. Husband that's my job.

847
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 6: Now that's pretty. Cool so that's How i've always seen.

848
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 6: Cricket i've always seen. Cricketers i'm still going to go

849
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 6: have a. Beer i'm still going to go out for.

850
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 6: DINNER i don't care if it's day two of A test.

851
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:53,919
Speaker 6: Match i'm still going to do these things Because i'm still.

852
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 6: Living i've got to live my. Life and that's How

853
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 6: i've always seen my. Life from a kid growing, Up

854
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 6: i've not really cared about anyone's. OPINION i don't care

855
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 6: what people think or. Say i'm about me and doing

856
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 6: WHAT i can do, best and that's what i have

857
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:10,399
Speaker 6: to do for my family and. Me so CAN i.

858
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 2: Ask you a question, then and you probably know this from,

859
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 2: me but like you, know our Coach Robot lake and

860
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 2: previous coach that they know they're going to play, opposition

861
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 2: and they do a fair bit of analytics on who

862
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 2: they're playing against it and in your case is probably even

863
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 2: more focused because you know you know who you're going

864
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 2: to be batting.

865
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 6: Against for, example months.

866
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,799
Speaker 2: Out, Yeah SO i was going to, say do you're not,

867
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 2: obsessed but do you get into the. Detail So i'm

868
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 2: going to be facing up against so and, SO i

869
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 2: know what he does when he throws the. Ball and

870
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:43,800
Speaker 2: then do you then golf and practice in the nets

871
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 2: or somewhere defending or attacking that particular type of style of?

872
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 2: BOILING i, mean is it like the? Fights like styles win?

873
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 2: Fights is it like that when it comes to cricket

874
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 2: for a batsman facing a, bowler bowling styles win the.

875
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:01,319
Speaker 2: Day how does it?

876
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:05,240
Speaker 6: Work two guys specifically would Be Minus lavash And Steve.

877
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:09,720
Speaker 6: Smith they're constantly looking to their way of playing creckt

878
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,399
Speaker 6: is by batting time in the nets and figuring out

879
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 6: all that kind of. Stuff for, me early, DOORS i

880
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 6: was facing the battles in the, nets doing EVERYTHING i,

881
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 6: could work, hard present yourself when you play for a

882
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 6: long time at the highest, Level for, me it was switching.

883
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:25,840
Speaker 2: Off how do you mean switching.

884
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 6: Off so switching off not thinking about Who i'm coming up,

885
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 6: against not thinking about where the guy's going to bowl the.

886
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 6: BALL i already know, that SO i want to know.

887
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 6: That When i'm walking out to the, middle that's WHEN

888
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 6: i want to. Go i'm, On i'm in the arena,

889
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 6: now that's WHEN i. Focus IF i focus too much

890
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 6: about BEFORE i go into that arena your, mind you

891
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,959
Speaker 6: won't be able to, sleep you won't be able to think.

892
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:48,839
Speaker 6: Straight you, know you go to practice and you start

893
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 6: practicing things that is wouldn't WHEN i go to practice

894
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:53,760
Speaker 6: a practice volume, practice hitting the ball in the middle

895
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:57,800
Speaker 6: of the, bat getting my timing, right that's ALL i focus.

896
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 6: ON i don't focus About that's the only Thing i'll

897
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,840
Speaker 6: control because at the end of the, DAY i find

898
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 6: you want to keep perfecting your, perfections, Right you want

899
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 6: to keep getting better at what you do.

900
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,280
Speaker 1: Better if you want to work.

901
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 6: On your, weaknesses you're actually putting the other stuff to.

902
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 6: Decide So i've always thought my weaknesses are always going

903
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 6: to be. There it's how DO i sort of not

904
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:22,400
Speaker 6: get out with that? Weakness what what CAN i what

905
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 6: CAN i do to negate? That not about how AM

906
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 6: i going to tackle THAT i need. TO i need

907
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 6: to worry about my cover drive and my pool shot

908
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,280
Speaker 6: and reverse. Sweeps that's ALL i have to worry. About

909
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 6: because your. WEAKNESSES i find if you put too much

910
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 6: focus on, that you'll end up still playing those kind of.

911
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,760
Speaker 6: Shots you'll still look to be. Defensive i'm an attacking.

912
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 6: PLAYOFF i look to be. DEFENSIVE i might as well

913
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:43,399
Speaker 6: just kick them over and walk.

914
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 2: Off as funnys She it's a bit like that's one

915
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 2: of those game golf up BECAUSE i started taking golf,

916
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,760
Speaker 2: lessons and LIKE i was more confused after golf lessons

917
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 2: than it was.

918
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 1: BEFORE i was in the ball better before.

919
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 2: Bloody think about too, much and LIKE i was getting

920
00:42:58,239 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 2: brain damage.

921
00:42:58,960 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 1: From thinking about this.

922
00:42:59,680 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 6: Shit you.

923
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 2: Know so it would be fair to say you're like an,

924
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:07,439
Speaker 2: instinctive instinctive. Batsman in other, words you sort of play

925
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 2: what's in front of.

926
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 3: You.

927
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, Yeah and that's WHY i always talk about to

928
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 6: the younger. Guys whenever they ask me for any advice

929
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 6: or what DO i do with? Training DO i, say you,

930
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 6: know what do you do with? HITTING i, said IF i,

931
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 6: mean If i'm not in any good, form WHICH i

932
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 6: mean out of, RUNS i hate the word. FORM i

933
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 6: would say less is more.

934
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 1: Meaning what what do you?

935
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 6: Mean less meaning that take your mind away from, it

936
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 6: go do something outside of. It if you're a main,

937
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 6: session you go to your main. Session you do what

938
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:34,839
Speaker 6: you have to, do whether it's catchers you know might

939
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:36,799
Speaker 6: have a light. Hit don't think you have to hit

940
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 6: for an hour and a. HALF i only hit for

941
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 6: probably half an hour to forty five minutes. Max one.

942
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 6: Session i'll probably do for an hour and a half

943
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 6: leading into A test, match just to get volume of,

944
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 6: concentration a bit of fatigue with a new ball and

945
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,799
Speaker 6: watch the ball. Swing but all the other, STUFF i

946
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 6: go play. Golf as you, said you don't like his brain.

947
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 6: Damage it's, tough, RIGHT a lot of the creatives play.

948
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 6: Golf but taking wind away from the, game that's the

949
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 6: best thing that you can. Do if you find yourself

950
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:08,439
Speaker 6: out of, runs get yourself away from, it do something

951
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,360
Speaker 6: you enjoy outside of what you love, doing which is,

952
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 6: cricket and then you'll find that your narrow point you

953
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 6: will come. Together you'll be right here in the in the,

954
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 6: moment because when you go walk out of that and that,

955
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 6: arena that's when it all comes to. You everything outside of,

956
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 6: that you Don't you don't have a worry in the.

957
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 6: World so just put you put your create kit, down

958
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 6: go enjoy, yourself go for a, run have a cup of,

959
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 6: coffee and just embrace what living's.

960
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:36,839
Speaker 2: About how do is when you're a? Kid how do

961
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:38,799
Speaker 2: you manage this? Part so when you're a, kid you're

962
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 2: doing it with your, brother older, brother and you've Got muslim,

963
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 2: grudges older brother and no Dabt usman was there, too

964
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 2: and you all have in front of you sort of you,

965
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 2: know at the nets or fucking around, somewhere like you

966
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:50,360
Speaker 2: might have a stump and you might be hitting a

967
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 2: tennis ball or, something just having, fun hitting up against

968
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 2: the wall and then playing cricket and enjoying. Yourself you

969
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 2: might be a club cricket at school or whatever the

970
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 2: case may, be and you're off to east later on having,

971
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:04,359
Speaker 2: fun having, fun having. Fun do you remember the time

972
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:07,399
Speaker 2: when you differentiate to become to when you're having fun

973
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 2: to win and became a. Profession do you remember the

974
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 2: moments or the weeks or the period where all of

975
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 2: a sudden this Became Dave, Warner everyone's watching. You it's

976
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:22,799
Speaker 2: about this is your, career, mate really compared to you

977
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 2: just haven't fun up to that point or has it

978
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 2: never been the.

979
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 6: Case it's never been the. CASE i THINK i look

980
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 6: back into SAY i sort of fell into sort of

981
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 6: everything That i've done under. Nineteens when you make the

982
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:37,799
Speaker 6: other Nineties World cup, team that's when people, say you,

983
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 6: know that's where you stood start getting serious because that

984
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 6: next step from nineteens to. Men, now WHEN i mean,

985
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:48,800
Speaker 6: men you're playing against very experienced players because you start

986
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 6: from you go from nineteens to guys that are thirty,

987
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:54,720
Speaker 6: seven thirty Eight James anderson still playing at fordy, plus

988
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 6: so you've got that time frame. There you, Go you've

989
00:45:57,239 --> 00:46:00,040
Speaker 6: got to have three years that are a pathetic and

990
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 6: then GO i hate the. GAME i want to get

991
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:03,839
Speaker 6: away from. It but for, me it was just more

992
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 6: focusing on just, playing rocking up on the, weekend playing

993
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 6: with my, mates going to Training Tuesday thursday afternoons and

994
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:13,759
Speaker 6: just loving the. Game AND i did work hard back.

995
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 6: THEN i worked a lot on my. Game and you

996
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 6: only had probably fifteen twenty minutes in great cricket in the,

997
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 6: nets AND i think that's probably Why i've started training like,

998
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:25,360
Speaker 6: that because you only had those moments to, train and

999
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 6: there was the only part you could get. BETTER i

1000
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 6: had half an hour a week to try and get

1001
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 6: better for The. Saturday SO i sort of emulated that to.

1002
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 6: Today but the, work the hard work that went in

1003
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 6: between that sort of from nineteen to say twenty, three

1004
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 6: twenty four in my first, contract there was a lot

1005
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:42,799
Speaker 6: of a lot of hard. Work and you do need some,

1006
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 6: luck you do need some people to fail you to score,

1007
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:49,839
Speaker 6: runs people to see you scoring. Runs and in the next.

1008
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 6: Level brad hadn't always said to, me you're one hundred

1009
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,320
Speaker 6: away from that next, step and it always.

1010
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 1: Does you're one.

1011
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:58,879
Speaker 6: Hundred, yeah you're one one hundred runs away from the next.

1012
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 6: Step because in your name up, here so you're identified

1013
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 6: as a young Se if you've got, talent that's one.

1014
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:08,720
Speaker 6: Thing but to excel had the character and the charisma

1015
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:10,879
Speaker 6: as well to, like you, know put it out. There

1016
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 6: AND i was always that sort of once they attack.

1017
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 6: Dog BUT i was always that bullish kid that wanted

1018
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 6: to get into into a. Contest So i'd hit a

1019
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 6: ball and say shot, mate going past the baller or

1020
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:23,840
Speaker 6: something like, that just to egg the baller, on just

1021
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:26,839
Speaker 6: to come at me a little bit AND i really

1022
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 6: enjoyed that and embraced. It but then you've got to you,

1023
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 6: know as the next steps get higher and, higher and

1024
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 6: then you get your you, know your Baggy greens or

1025
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 6: my first game of the twenty twenty game For Astral before,

1026
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 6: that that's when you, go, WHOA i, Mean i'm with

1027
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 6: the big. Boys and then it's like you've got to

1028
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 6: try and your level comes back down to here. Again

1029
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 6: it's like you're really starting.

1030
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 2: Again, yeah because they're all better than, you, are more

1031
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 2: experienced than you.

1032
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:51,879
Speaker 6: Forever definitely one hundred, percent and you've got to earn

1033
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,359
Speaker 6: respect as. Well kind of come in there being WHO

1034
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 6: i am. Today it just doesn't. Work were you a

1035
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 6: gee bastard one hundred? Percent?

1036
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 2: Yeah and when you, say because you, know always give

1037
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 2: me a little bit of a, sledge as you just

1038
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 2: said to the, ball you're nice blah blah. Blah but,

1039
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:08,399
Speaker 2: like how important is do you think in your career

1040
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 2: at least given that you're already saying that you are

1041
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 2: not the technician who sat down and did as data

1042
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 2: and you, know they sort of build up this this

1043
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 2: big program so people are not going to, say, Well

1044
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 2: Dave more is like the most crazy trainer and technician

1045
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 2: in the whole. Competition but how important then was it

1046
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 2: few to get on and sort of display your, character your,

1047
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:36,800
Speaker 2: personality you, know like as being, aggressive not taking a backward.

1048
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 2: Step how important was? That and were you conscious of?

1049
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 1: THAT i was.

1050
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 6: NEVER i wasn't conscious of. It, No and that's where

1051
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:45,799
Speaker 6: it probably led me to some, discretions in discretions with

1052
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:48,799
Speaker 6: some players on the, field going too, Far, yeah going too.

1053
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 6: Far and LIKE i, think sometimes what happens is THE

1054
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 6: ipl has created this massive family of. Friends so now

1055
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 6: when you play in financial, career you have probably played

1056
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 6: with at least four or five of those people in

1057
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 6: a game, before and you've shared the change. Rooms so

1058
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:09,319
Speaker 6: NOW i look back, Going, okay COULD i have been

1059
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 6: that same person back? Then What i've got here? Today

1060
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 6: IF i wasn't that person back, then that's what got me.

1061
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 6: Going i've said this. Before if it wasn't for my,

1062
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:22,320
Speaker 6: WIFE i definitely wouldn't be here playing.

1063
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 9: Cricket thank, you thanks for having me so, No I'm i'm.

1064
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 8: So happy to be.

1065
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 2: Here it's. Massive, well congratulations Feeling OH i.

1066
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 9: FEELING i feel. GOOD i feel a little bit Like

1067
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 9: i'm kind of stuck in this whirlwind, still AND i

1068
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 9: think it'll hit me maybe in like a few, years

1069
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 9: That i've won The olympic gold.

1070
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:52,359
Speaker 2: Medal a few, YEARS i, think, so, really.

1071
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 9: YEAH i think WHAT i found is sometimes you, like

1072
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 9: do these really cool things in your, career AND i

1073
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 9: only really hits home a few years later in, Hindsight you're,

1074
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 9: like oh my, GOD i did.

1075
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 2: That so it's funny you should. Say i've sort of

1076
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 2: been nothing on The, olympics BUT i have something happened

1077
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:12,759
Speaker 2: to me once in my life and everyone thought it

1078
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 2: was like a big. Deal AND i was In New

1079
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:19,360
Speaker 2: york when the thing, finished AND i just sat there a.

1080
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 2: MOMENT i had a beer and a, pizza ordered a

1081
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 2: pizza from the. Hotel you're, right can be a bit

1082
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:26,839
Speaker 2: of any. CLIMAX i think that's everybody thinks That i'm

1083
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 2: one of. THEM i, thinking oh my, god like she

1084
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 2: must have just got mental with happiness and. JOY i,

1085
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:34,839
Speaker 2: MEAN i saw you run around with the flag and

1086
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 2: you did the, jump and you, know obviously knew you had.

1087
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:42,840
Speaker 2: Won SO i guess that there was that moment of.

1088
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 2: Elation but when you reflect on, it when do you

1089
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:48,319
Speaker 2: reflect on? It do you reflect on it like that

1090
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 2: night or after the after, party or when do you

1091
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 2: start reflecting on these?

1092
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:54,840
Speaker 9: Things and you're, right you know a little bit of.

1093
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 9: Elation it was honestly like the best week of my whole.

1094
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:00,160
Speaker 1: Life you mean during the, competition after.

1095
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 9: That whole week of probably the day of my, competition

1096
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 9: to like the week after all my, friends all my

1097
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:11,359
Speaker 9: family are In, paris it will be like the best

1098
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 9: week of my whole. LIFE i think probably why it

1099
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:18,280
Speaker 9: hasn't sunk in yet is that i haven't finished the season.

1100
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 9: Off So i'm going back To europe next, week, wow

1101
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 9: doing four more, competitions So i'm kind of still in

1102
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 9: that competition. Mode and then ONCE i get home from

1103
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 9: that and actually just have a, break that's When i'll.

1104
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:33,400
Speaker 9: Reflect that's When i'll go back and watch the competition

1105
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:37,839
Speaker 9: and you, know like do some journaling and just sit

1106
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:40,399
Speaker 9: by myself and think about. That AND i think that's

1107
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 9: where some lessons will be learned and some real deep

1108
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:44,839
Speaker 9: reflection will.

1109
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 2: Happen it seems to me, confidence like positivity is probably

1110
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 2: a key for someone like you and your. Sport it's

1111
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 2: not like you can just say there, Goes i'm offen

1112
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 2: running on a run one hundred meters And i'm gonna

1113
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:57,399
Speaker 2: run as fast AS i fucking.

1114
00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 7: Can.

1115
00:51:57,680 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 2: Now, yeah, here you got a lot of other shit

1116
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 2: that happens you've got no control over sort of you,

1117
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 2: know LIKE i, know win, factors, whatever it could be

1118
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 2: a particularly hot day or something like. That how do

1119
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:13,839
Speaker 2: you maintain your confidence during that whole? Period because like

1120
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:16,359
Speaker 2: if you missed the in your, case you didn't miss

1121
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 2: the first your first jump in your final, jump but

1122
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 2: if you miss the first two or do you have

1123
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:23,880
Speaker 2: have you shot you?

1124
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 4: Yet?

1125
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:26,879
Speaker 1: Three two three? Three so do you miss the first?

1126
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 2: Two so what do you how do you get your

1127
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 2: head around?

1128
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 3: That?

1129
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 9: Like, yeah so going back to this word confidence my

1130
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 9: sports like AND i have done so much work on, this,

1131
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 9: Right so he likes to break it down confidence verse.

1132
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:49,359
Speaker 9: Competence and you, know you can't control how confident you're

1133
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:51,719
Speaker 9: going to feel on the, day but what you can

1134
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 9: control is how competent you are going.

1135
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 2: To execute your.

1136
00:52:55,680 --> 00:53:01,360
Speaker 9: Skills, Right so it's like run, tall run sixteen, steps

1137
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 9: jump and get flung into the air and do that

1138
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:08,439
Speaker 9: thing you've done a thousand times as best you, can

1139
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 9: and that is.

1140
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 2: Competence so like chunking it out into, Parts.

1141
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 1: YEAH i, guess so so just, go oh.

1142
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:15,880
Speaker 2: FUCK i just gotta run, down put the thing and

1143
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:18,799
Speaker 2: try and jump over, that just break it. Down do

1144
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 2: you construct this sort of?

1145
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 9: Thing, yeah you are competent at what you. Do you're

1146
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:27,360
Speaker 9: an elite athlete for a. Reason and you, know confidence

1147
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 9: is this fleeting thing which comes and goes and you

1148
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:33,319
Speaker 9: get negative, thoughts but then you get positive thoughts and

1149
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:36,839
Speaker 9: you're trying to fight it and it's just not very.

1150
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 9: Stable but executing WHAT i can do and having competence

1151
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 9: and WHAT i do is very. Controllable. Right and once

1152
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 9: you've done that one hundred times whole, season, two whole,

1153
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 9: season three whole, seasons that's when a little bit of,

1154
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:55,800
Speaker 9: confidence and WHAT i like to say to my sports

1155
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:58,440
Speaker 9: like is a little bit of magic comes into, it,

1156
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 9: Right and you know that's where you really can believe

1157
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:06,759
Speaker 9: that you're going to win that gold. Medal you don't need,

1158
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:07,879
Speaker 9: it but it's.

1159
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 2: Helpful do you have these little superstitions you, KNOW i

1160
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 2: get to tie your laser up a certain, way or

1161
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:17,880
Speaker 2: not putting your spice on until the last, second or you,

1162
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 2: know have a little.

1163
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:21,320
Speaker 1: Good luck rabbit or.

1164
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:23,840
Speaker 2: SOMETHING i, mean do you have a little or is

1165
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 2: it more a. Procedure you get up on the, day

1166
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 2: when you get up at a certain, time you eat

1167
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 2: this type of, food no, superstitions no.

1168
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 9: Superstitions and you know that's again something my, sports because, like,

1169
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 9: dude if you're relying on superstitions to win a gold,

1170
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:39,880
Speaker 9: medal good luck to you kind of.

1171
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:42,440
Speaker 2: Thing you, know BECAUSE i see some of the runners

1172
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 2: they bless themselves and stuff like, that like WHICH i

1173
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 2: find is sort of, interesting like BECAUSE i often wonder

1174
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:55,279
Speaker 2: Whether i've been involve in sports definitely not your, level

1175
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:57,759
Speaker 2: but WHERE i used to, dream for, example or not

1176
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 2: BEFORE i forgot my, mouthguard turning up to the, game

1177
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:06,399
Speaker 2: turning up to the. Event do you actually get those

1178
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 2: sorts of things happening to? You you Think i've, Left

1179
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:11,839
Speaker 2: i've only a one shoe with. Me does your brain

1180
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:13,400
Speaker 2: mind pay play games with?

1181
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:15,800
Speaker 9: You of course it. Does and you, KNOW i missed

1182
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 9: one of my attempts in The olympic final at four

1183
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 9: seventy and lots of people ask me about, it and

1184
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 9: you know it was a good miss AND i knew

1185
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 9: WHAT i had to do on my second. Attempt and

1186
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 9: you go back and you do, it but those thoughts

1187
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 9: come into your, mind right and it's, like, oh what

1188
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 9: IF i miss my second attempt and what IF i freak?

1189
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 9: Out and Then i'm on my third, attempt and Then

1190
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 9: i've haven't won gold at The. Olympics so it's literally

1191
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 9: just about noticing those negative, thoughts seeing them for what they.

1192
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 9: Are your brain, is you, know programmed to find, Fear notice,

1193
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 9: it put it, away and you get on the bit.

1194
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:51,879
Speaker 4: Job