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Speaker 1: I ran towards the guy with a gun. He pulled

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Speaker 2: For thirty four years, I saw a side of life

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Speaker 2: the average person is never exposed to. I was a

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Speaker 2: homicide detective and catching killers was what I did for

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Speaker 3: They told me that my daughter was dead. She'd been

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Speaker 3: shot dead by police. I remember saying to them, you've

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Speaker 3: made a mistake. Obviously they hadn't made a mistake.

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Speaker 2: I'm no longer just inter viewing the bad guys. Every

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Speaker 2: week i'd take you into the world of crime, with

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Speaker 2: guests from all sides of the law joining me to

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Speaker 2: share their stories.

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Speaker 4: I was only just sitting there at home, having dinner

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Speaker 4: with my missus, and then within a night or two,

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Speaker 4: I was on the truck heading out the park.

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Speaker 5: I remember walking into my cell. All I could see

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Speaker 5: was cockroaches all over the war and I thought, I

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Speaker 5: can't believe this is jail.

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Speaker 6: I was thrown with solitary confinement. There were no beds,

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Speaker 6: them in a mattress, there's no pillows. I would hear

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Speaker 6: the sounds of other prisoners screaming.

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Speaker 7: The stories are raw, honest and confronting.

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Speaker 2: That's because no one who comes into contact with crime,

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Speaker 2: is left unchanged.

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Speaker 8: These are three kids that have called miss in Australia

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Speaker 8: on one Street and no one cares.

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Speaker 7: But it's not all dark. We have lighter moments too.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to another episode of What do we call When I?

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Speaker 2: I can't rehead, I can't even remember.

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Speaker 7: The room.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Welcome to another episode of I Catch Killers. Join

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Speaker 2: me as I take you into this world on my podcast.

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Speaker 2: Listen early and ad free on Crime x Plus on

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