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Speaker 1: Trump has spoken said he should be dead, a miracle

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Speaker 1: that the speech he was going to give was going

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Speaker 1: Form A special assistant to fellow Trump and former candidate

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Speaker 1: me now Andrew good morning. Thank you for your time.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, it's a pleasure to be with you.

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Speaker 1: What were your thoughts watching the assassination attempt filed out

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, the honor of working for President Trump

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Speaker 1: It changes the dynamics for the election, now, doesn't it.

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Speaker 1: What's the feeling over there about where it's so hitting?

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Speaker 2: You know, it's been an amazingly fast news site after

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Speaker 2: So you've already had that go on on a Monday

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Speaker 1: Where too from here in terms of the Secret Service,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, Trump the unifier moving forward. He's said his

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Speaker 2: become the forty seventh president. And as somebody who's a

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Speaker 2: the honor to work four years for him in the

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Speaker 2: White House, I don't want to imagine what the world

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Speaker 2: would be like if we had another four years of

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden. You think two foreign wars have started under

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Speaker 2: the Biden watch. You can see inflation through the roof

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Speaker 2: here in the United States of America, so many other issues,

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Speaker 2: and you know, us with a border crisis as well,

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Speaker 2: ten million illegal migrants coming in. President Trump is I

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Speaker 2: believe the answer to saving our constitutional republic, And that's

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Speaker 2: why I support him, and that's why i've you know,

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Speaker 2: I've worked so hard to make sure that he can

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Speaker 2: become the forty seventh president.

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Speaker 1: Andrew, appreciate your time today.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you very much. Have a great day

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Speaker 2: you too.

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Speaker 1: Andrew Giuliani, former special assistant to former President Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: in the White House, of course, and former candidate for

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Speaker 1: governor of New York