Speaker 1: All right, right back for another episode of the Daily
Speaker 1: Telegraph and Real podcast. Adam Mob's here with you with
Speaker 1: Fatima Cando. How are you going, Fatima?
Speaker 2: I am well, the wea on, but well.
Speaker 1: Under the weather. Well Tyson Jackson who jumping in the
Speaker 1: hot seat this week? And you and I've got a
Speaker 1: little bit of sidebant going at the moment because I'm
Speaker 1: an eelsman and you're a Tiger supporter, and we thought
Speaker 1: round twenty seven might be the wooden spoon by my friend,
Speaker 1: but you might have just got the jump on you
Speaker 1: after last weekend.
Speaker 3: Oh it's there's still a couple of weeks left. I
Speaker 3: wouldn't get to ahead of yourself. I jumped on the
Speaker 3: ladder predicted last night and the Tiger's still going to
Speaker 3: finish sixteenth and there's only one team they'll finish below that.
Speaker 3: So I'll leave that to your imagination.
Speaker 2: I'm your left questioning Mobs here where where that performance
Speaker 2: from the Ills was like six eight weeks ago? Look,
Speaker 2: well maybe it's a it's a taste of they're just
Speaker 2: resigned to the fact that the season is done and
Speaker 2: there's that less pressure and.
Speaker 1: Well you look last week they were the better team
Speaker 1: in the first half against Melbourne and trailed. They threw
Speaker 1: a couple of trial, gave a couple of tries up,
Speaker 1: they had all the possession. You look back earlier in
Speaker 1: the year, they should have beaten Canary that time when
Speaker 1: they didn't. You know, Mitch Moses should have iced that game.
Speaker 1: They were in it against the Roosters that time. There
Speaker 1: was three games in the middle. I think the Gold
Speaker 1: Coast was the other one. That games they should have
Speaker 1: one that would have you look at that roster. They're
Speaker 1: not a wooden spoon roster and no offense tice. But yeah,
Speaker 1: but it is what it.
Speaker 2: Is, and they did play in patches this year where
Speaker 2: you're got your thinking like, how is this team at
Speaker 2: the bottom of the roster, bottom of the table even
Speaker 2: with all the injuries they've had in the setbacks and
Speaker 2: the rest of it. So maybe it's not as bad
Speaker 2: it Maybe it's not bottom of the barrel just yet.
Speaker 2: Maybe it might be if the chat on the radio
Speaker 2: this morning through that Mitch that the Dragons are monitoring
Speaker 2: Mitchell Moses's situation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so is that in the same conversation that Mitchell
Speaker 1: Moses wants to go somewhere where he's going to win
Speaker 1: a comp and St. Georgia Laura and that conversation. Come on,
Speaker 1: I'm not listening to this crap anymore.
Speaker 2: He's a premiership winning coach, so he's gone that over
Speaker 2: Jason Rayles.
Speaker 1: Well he is. And what about what do you make
Speaker 1: of the Dragons at the weekend?
Speaker 3: Very good? I thought they were. They were very good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they were, they were good. I didn't realize it
Speaker 2: was Anthony Mundane. Whodo is another like generational thing that
Speaker 2: we should have known about.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, ninety nine Grand Final they were with in
Speaker 1: a whisker of beating Melbourne. Obviously there was the the
Speaker 1: Craig Smith incident, the call with Jamie Ayin's co and
Speaker 1: you know the penalty try. But you know they were
Speaker 1: within a whisker of winning it when Mundane was he
Speaker 1: could have passed it right on the line when himself
Speaker 1: knocked it on and Chock said the next year, you know,
Speaker 1: we're going to charm who the real deal is, and
Speaker 1: Melbourne pumped him seventy to ten the following They haven't
Speaker 1: won in twenty five years there. But tell you what
Speaker 1: what Shane Flatagan's done with this team, that same roster
Speaker 1: as last year and to go down there to mel
Speaker 1: But I don't care who you are, especially the Dragons
Speaker 1: after twenty five years to put in the performance they did,
Speaker 1: and you're always sitting here watching this going, oh god,
Speaker 1: Melbourne are going to do something here. They're just going
Speaker 1: to find a way, find a way. And the Dragons
Speaker 1: held so firm in defense, unbelievable. Jaden Sewer I thought
Speaker 1: was terrific in attack again.
Speaker 2: He's been great since missing out on Origin. In that
Speaker 2: last game, I think it was yeah, yeah, And they're
Speaker 2: just they're just in terms of like physicality, conditioning fitness wise.
Speaker 2: They matched it with a storm, the Storm more obviously.
Speaker 2: I know they've been sort of off the pace for
Speaker 2: the last couple of weeks. They've probably got away with
Speaker 2: one last week. The thing for the Dragons for me
Speaker 2: is when they're in that mood like they were against
Speaker 2: the Storm, you know, they look like a top eight team,
Speaker 2: but then they get blown off the park every now
Speaker 2: and then, and so they're still struggling for that consistency.
Speaker 2: And I know that's something that Shane Flanagan is working on.
Speaker 2: But you know, the people derided their forward pack seems
Speaker 2: to be matching them they've got really big outside backs.
Speaker 2: Zach Climax. I feel it's probably been a little bit
Speaker 2: off the pace since Origin, but you know, yeah, they
Speaker 2: look good and it sets up a massive game at
Speaker 2: Cogra against Cannobary.
Speaker 1: What do you think of Tyrrell Sloan's performance, Tice?
Speaker 3: I thought, coming back and all the criticism, I thought
Speaker 3: it was all right. I thought, you know, I spoke
Speaker 3: to Flano last week before they left for Melbourne, and
Speaker 3: I was surprised when Flano was very open and saying
Speaker 3: that he didn't want to bring him back. I thought
Speaker 3: that was not a tough call. But I mean to
Speaker 3: come and tell the media that you don't see many
Speaker 3: other coaches doing that. So then that might have let
Speaker 3: a rocket under Tyrolle and I think after a win
Speaker 3: like that, he probably keeps his spot.
Speaker 1: I'm so happy for him. I'm so happy for because
Speaker 1: Flannel has not been backwards in coming forward about tyre
Speaker 1: Ol Sloan's format and what he sees as deficiencies in
Speaker 1: his role as a fallback. You know, he's sometimes, you know,
Speaker 1: willing to put your head in the areas that other
Speaker 1: people won't put them, that kind of thing. But obviously
Speaker 1: was the ball support runner that we saw on the weekend,
Speaker 1: of course, but you know, he didn't shirk his responsibilities
Speaker 1: at all. And they were they were so tough. They
Speaker 1: were so tough out there, just supporting each other through
Speaker 1: the middle. And Flano has got him playing some really
Speaker 1: nice football and I don't know about you guys' we'll
Speaker 1: get to this. I've got him in my eight for
Speaker 1: the rest of the season. I think they're going to
Speaker 1: play finals.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's it's kind of between. The Dragons
Speaker 3: will only make it titan Stone, so they need the
Speaker 3: Titans to drop off a couple of massive weeks though,
Speaker 3: Like we said, that Bulldogs game is going to be unbelievable.
Speaker 3: Sell out our Cogra. I'm a local there so you
Speaker 3: might see me. Ye might get around, but yeah, I
Speaker 3: can't wait. Rugby League is a good place when the
Speaker 3: Dragons and the Bulldogs. Hopefully one day the Tigers are
Speaker 3: doing well. So I'm excited. I think, yeah, like a
Speaker 3: world of momentum. The atmosphere comes Saturday night at Cogra
Speaker 3: is going to be unbelievable.
Speaker 2: It's going to be interesting because it's two very passionate
Speaker 2: you know, Sydney supporter basis. So I think Flannel was
Speaker 2: on the radio this morning saying how much they love
Speaker 2: coming to Cogra to play because it is a different
Speaker 2: group of fans, you know, to the Illawarra so and
Speaker 2: we saw all the scenes at Bellmore. They were carrying
Speaker 2: on like they just won the Grand Final. So they're
Speaker 2: probably going to take over the streets of Cogor as
Speaker 2: well if they win too. But it'll be the same
Speaker 2: for the Dragons, who you know, if they put themselves
Speaker 2: well and truly in the finals race, if they get
Speaker 2: over the Bulldogs, I think it's going to be it'll
Speaker 2: be interesting because they're both gritty teams when they can be,
Speaker 2: and they both can score points when they want to.
Speaker 2: But I think it's going to be a tight, closer,
Speaker 2: fair and I think defense is going to win this one,
Speaker 2: and they're both defensive minded coaches.
Speaker 3: So yeah, well I looked. I looked last night. The
Speaker 3: Dragons have only won back to back games twice this year. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so massive tests. If that's their deficiency. There might be
Speaker 3: a bit of complacency. They have a real high one
Speaker 3: week and then the next week drop a bit. I
Speaker 3: don't know, but that's that's going to be the biggest
Speaker 3: test for them is to go back to back for
Speaker 3: only the third time this year. And I mean to
Speaker 3: get into the top eight mobs. You say the Dragons
Speaker 3: are in your eight. They need to be able to
Speaker 3: do that. If they can't do that, then then you
Speaker 3: have to put a line to them.
Speaker 1: Well, the start off the year that way, didn't they
Speaker 1: They smashed the Titans away from home. I thought, oh wow,
Speaker 1: and I didn't pick them week one. So they're playing
Speaker 1: the Dolphins week two. I said, oh, I'm on the Dragons.
Speaker 3: They get pump thirty eight l Yeah.
Speaker 1: You know. Then they beat teams like they beat the
Speaker 1: Warriors in Woollongong. They got smashed by sixty by the Roosters.
Speaker 1: You know, they lose to the Sharks, they beat South,
Speaker 1: they get smashed by Canterbury, they come and beat the Dragons,
Speaker 1: sorry the Panthers in fair Refords. It's a crazy stat
Speaker 1: I think Aaron Wallace from Fox League had a weird
Speaker 1: step that there's only one other team that's beaten Penrith
Speaker 1: and Melbourne home and away in a season and that
Speaker 1: was Paramatter in twenty twenty two. In the last five years.
Speaker 3: But so you're saying the Dragons are going to win.
Speaker 1: They're going to win. They were in anything from there.
Speaker 2: But it's but that also says a bit about because
Speaker 2: I think after all those blobout scores they came back
Speaker 2: and wine right, They've been able to bounce back. So
Speaker 2: I think that says a lot about the kind of
Speaker 2: coach Flannely is and the way he's able to sort
Speaker 2: of elicit a response from his side when they've just
Speaker 2: been in the dumps. But yeah, the key is consistency.
Speaker 2: If they can find that consistency, then you know, as
Speaker 2: Tyson said, you know, Canvy is shown that can be consistent.
Speaker 2: All of a sudden, you've got these two sides that
Speaker 2: are struggled for a really long time playing some really
Speaker 2: good footy. And I mean, I guess if you're a
Speaker 2: Sydney footy fan, it's what you want.
Speaker 3: You can tell how the Dragons are going to go
Speaker 3: after the first fifteen minutes of a game. If they
Speaker 3: come out with that kind of bully mentality that Shane
Speaker 3: Flanagan meant, you know you're in for a rough night.
Speaker 3: Both times a versus Tigers this year, they've come out
Speaker 3: with that form and as a Tiger supporter, I'm like going, no,
Speaker 3: you know, but then you see him sometimes when they
Speaker 3: don't come out with that form and that first impact,
Speaker 3: that first carry is not that well, you kind of
Speaker 3: go back to my Dragons mates. You guys are in
Speaker 3: for a rough day to day.
Speaker 1: But what impressed me most is you've got to do
Speaker 1: it for eighty minutes against the Storm because they will
Speaker 1: just pick you apart. And like I said, I was
Speaker 1: just waiting at one point for Melbourne to turn it
Speaker 1: on and just put on a move blom away and
Speaker 1: then okay and just do what Melbourne do and then
Speaker 1: they couldn't get the job done. So big game against
Speaker 1: Bulldogs who were great against I thought your Raiders played
Speaker 1: really well. They turn up red to play, but shows
Speaker 1: you how tight the comp can be.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was a strange game because there was
Speaker 2: a lot of blowout scores in that round as well,
Speaker 2: so I thought, you know, I don't know, maybe they're
Speaker 2: going to turn it on, but it was a really
Speaker 2: tight game. I mean there were I was really surprised
Speaker 2: to see Ricky leave Ethan strange out of that game.
Speaker 2: He played all year, this massive game they need to win.
Speaker 2: There's a final spot on the line. And sort of
Speaker 2: the way he explained it after the game was he
Speaker 2: felt like he was it was time to start managing
Speaker 2: his workload. It was really curious cool and I don't
Speaker 2: know whether I buy that. You know, he's played, he's
Speaker 2: played all year, he's built that combination on the edge,
Speaker 2: and then to pull him out of the game. I'm
Speaker 2: not gonna say that's the reason why they lost, but
Speaker 2: it was curious decision. But yeah, they were, they were
Speaker 2: in it. There was just a couple of tries from
Speaker 2: Canary that were just absolutely freaky.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: You saw Stephen Crichton with his chip over the shoulder,
Speaker 2: like howdie defend that? You know, and then Matt Burdon
Speaker 2: had been sort of kept his bomb sort of in
Speaker 2: the kick bag for weeks and weeks and then comes
Speaker 2: up with a bomb and that I think Critter was
Speaker 2: on the other side of the field, gathered, you know,
Speaker 2: gives it off to Fish to josh Oda car and
Speaker 2: they score. So that was the that was the difference
Speaker 2: in the end. I think Burton's bomb. So yeah, in it,
Speaker 2: but still a game that they had to win because
Speaker 2: the Raiders, if you look at their own hammand, we're
Speaker 2: going to look at it a little bit later. It
Speaker 2: is it is tough. I don't think they could have
Speaker 2: afforded to drop those two points, to be honest, they.
Speaker 3: Struggled to score points. I think defense on both sides
Speaker 3: wasn't really the issue. And you look at you look
Speaker 3: at the triers of the Bulldog scored and they weren't
Speaker 3: like this is just individual brilliance. But Ethan strange. I mean,
Speaker 3: he's broken games open this year for them before. And
Speaker 3: I think Cook's a great player, you know, playing in
Speaker 3: the harves and he's a good backup player. But I
Speaker 3: think he really got a back your young guys there
Speaker 3: to do a job.
Speaker 2: And that's what I find found strange, Right, he backed
Speaker 2: him all the way up until this point, and this
Speaker 2: is probably the biggest game of their season and he's
Speaker 2: not there.
Speaker 3: So and it looked like they missed him.
Speaker 1: I think, I wonder what's going on there for Ricky
Speaker 1: to make that call.
Speaker 2: So, I mean he said it before. I mean, you know,
Speaker 2: with Savage, right when Savage first came through it, I
Speaker 2: was like, oh, this kid's are prodigy, this kid's are
Speaker 2: that And Sticky sort of was bringing him in and
Speaker 2: out of the side adamant that he was doing the
Speaker 2: right thing by him. I mean, eventually Savage came good,
Speaker 2: but yeah, it is strange since he's played the whole year.
Speaker 1: I've got to ask. I had the last rites for
Speaker 1: him a couple of weeks ago, but officially now the
Speaker 1: Broncos are gone for the year. You talk about rosses
Speaker 1: that should be top eight rosters and teams that were
Speaker 1: what seventeen minutes away from a Grand Final win until
Speaker 1: Nathan Cleary worked from his slumber last year. Where do
Speaker 1: you fix the Broncos? What is the issue? And they
Speaker 1: don't have a lot of players coming off contract the
Speaker 1: end of this year. CoreOS is still battling for a contract.
Speaker 1: They've got a couple of most of the guys are
Speaker 1: on deck, and then come November one, you've got guys
Speaker 1: like Catoni Stags. So we're expecting Reese Walsh to sign
Speaker 1: a new deal soon and it's going to take up
Speaker 1: a lot of their salary cap as well of a
Speaker 1: significantly larger portion that it is currently. So I don't
Speaker 1: know if they're going to be able to hit the
Speaker 1: market to bring in replacements.
Speaker 2: But when you look at them full strength, they don't
Speaker 2: need to be in the market and I like, I
Speaker 2: understand something. So what's Yeah, I know that's it. What's
Speaker 2: the issue? And the reality is I think they led
Speaker 2: into a half time here and didn't score a point
Speaker 2: and the Titans scored seven tries in the second half.
Speaker 2: You know, that's a team. And I think Kevy said
Speaker 2: it like there was just no fight in that second half.
Speaker 2: And it's curious. It's like, I just don't know. They
Speaker 2: just don't have any resilience. They haven't had any resilience
Speaker 2: at all this year. And I don't know. Maybe maybe
Speaker 2: you know, there's talk about the kind of approach they
Speaker 2: took to the preseason after the Grand Final, maybe they
Speaker 2: looked around, it's a roster for the superstars. They made
Speaker 2: the Grand Final. You know, maybe the preseason wasn't as
Speaker 2: tough or as hard as grueling as it should have been.
Speaker 2: Maybe Kevy, you know, took the foot off the pedal
Speaker 2: a little bit. I don't know, because I think it's
Speaker 2: a mental It's not a roster thing. It's not a
Speaker 2: skill thing. It's got to be an attitude mental thing.
Speaker 3: I'll touch on that. I think it's really evident in sport,
Speaker 3: and I guess in life in general. It's hard to
Speaker 3: wake up and get into the grind when you sleep
Speaker 3: in silk sheets. I think the saying goes. You see
Speaker 3: it with athletes all the time. You see it with
Speaker 3: people that move up in the world all the time,
Speaker 3: that all of a sudden their lives kind of shift.
Speaker 3: You look at the Broncos eighteen months ago. Are they
Speaker 3: the superstars they are now or are they even close
Speaker 3: to it? No, all of a sudden, they're the hottest
Speaker 3: things in rugby league. They're almost the hottest thing in
Speaker 3: Australia sport. You go to one of their games and
Speaker 3: you're seeing people there that you would have never seen
Speaker 3: a rugby league game before. But they're there because they're
Speaker 3: not there to watch the fleet. They're there because they
Speaker 3: like these players and they like the superstars that these
Speaker 3: players have kind of become. When you're getting all that
Speaker 3: love and attention, you're getting the Instagram followers, getting the
Speaker 3: endorsement deal, you're getting all that stuff, it's hard to
Speaker 3: get up, go to training in the morning and get
Speaker 3: up for the get up for the grind. Like they've
Speaker 3: got the high life, you know. You look at the
Speaker 3: way they live on their social medias and things like that.
Speaker 2: But see it's I do agree with you, but if
Speaker 2: you look at Penrith, it's fair to say that Penrith
Speaker 2: experienced something similar. Right all of a sudden, they were
Speaker 2: the kings of Western Sydney. They were superstars wherever they went.
Speaker 2: You know, they're quite vocal on social media. They don't
Speaker 2: hold back on social media. But after they lost twenty
Speaker 2: twenty Grand Final, they worked even harder, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 3: They where they come from. Though they came from that
Speaker 3: kind of that twenty nineteen they weren't. They weren't that
Speaker 3: crash hot Ivan Cleary blooded a lot of young players
Speaker 3: they dealt with that kind of hardships. These young guys,
Speaker 3: guys like Reese Walsh, Patrick Carroghan, they're informed that were
Speaker 3: not the best form. But they're still playing decent footy.
Speaker 3: But they've been handed all this luxury straight away. I
Speaker 3: don't think they know how to deal with it, and
Speaker 3: I think that's what's making them struggle on the field
Speaker 3: because they're not there for the.
Speaker 2: Fight back to you know what is going on at training,
Speaker 2: other coaching staff being hard enough on them to build
Speaker 2: that toughness and that resilience. It's you know, you've got
Speaker 2: to We're getting to a point where man managing your
Speaker 2: players is as important as them being well drilled and
Speaker 2: well coached and skilled in the rest of it. And
Speaker 2: I think that's what Penrith has done really well. You know,
Speaker 2: like Ivan Cleary is obviously an incredible coach, but he's
Speaker 2: also been really good at managing his players, the personalities
Speaker 2: of his players, And I wonder whether you know, Kevy
Speaker 2: or anybody at the Broncos has done a good enough
Speaker 2: job on that the soft skills side of things as
Speaker 2: opposed to you know, they don't need too much coaching
Speaker 2: because they're already, like you said, individually, quite brilliant players.
Speaker 1: It's quite a juxtaposition when you think that the Red
Speaker 1: Hill is still the place where a couple of eys ago,
Speaker 1: they're erecting fences, mesh fences to keep the Fians out
Speaker 1: and hiring extra security to deal with the popularity of
Speaker 1: this team. That was just on a tail spin. But
Speaker 1: speaking of someone from a rival club the other day
Speaker 1: about the Broncos, he pointed out something really interesting. He
Speaker 1: said that they know if you chip away at the
Speaker 1: Broncos this season, you can beat them, because he pointed
Speaker 1: out there was a lack of discipline in their defense
Speaker 1: where you had guys shooting out of the line, guys
Speaker 1: not trusting the guy inside, and the second efforts weren't there.
Speaker 1: If they do conceide a tackle bus last year you
Speaker 1: saw the hunger to sit there and chase down as
Speaker 1: a team and hunting a pack in defense. They haven't
Speaker 1: done that this year, and that if you can break
Speaker 1: them open a little bit, you can get through them,
Speaker 1: and that's the way they're going. You saw what the
Speaker 1: Titans did the other day, and you saw I think
Speaker 1: particularly what chem Siroaldo did the week before when targeting
Speaker 1: those edges and finding where they thought, okay, this is
Speaker 1: where we can get through and the week before was
Speaker 1: done without Stephen Crichton, you know, and yeah, I think, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of soul search and do
Speaker 1: at Redhill ahead of next season because you know, someone
Speaker 1: out my Wakers living at Penrith Way very happily pointed
Speaker 1: out that the three of the bottom four teams are
Speaker 1: Grand finalists beatn Greend finalists from Penrith, from pen So
Speaker 1: Tigers sixteenth. My Yells were fifteenth, are we Broncos fifteenth?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 1: And South's fourteenth.
Speaker 2: That's versus So Penrith are building their own dynasty all
Speaker 2: the while ruining everybody else's.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks a lot, Penrith.
Speaker 2: It's fascinating, you know, all those sides and then have
Speaker 2: gone on to miss the final.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's fascinating for team. I love it. Great.
Speaker 3: That's a lot three years in.
Speaker 1: Oh but yeah, anyway, can anyone stop Penrith.
Speaker 2: At the moment, I think I think maybe Melbourne have
Speaker 2: another gear in them, I reckon even though they've been
Speaker 2: the latter leaders like all season, I feel like they're
Speaker 2: probably we haven't seen the best of them just yet.
Speaker 2: And I also think we probably haven't seen the best
Speaker 2: of Penrith just yet because they have. I mean, Fish
Speaker 2: was out Fish and Harris was out for this game.
Speaker 2: He'll be out for three more weeks once their full strength.
Speaker 2: Yeah don't I don't know. I don't know. Like you
Speaker 2: look at the outside of the storm in the top
Speaker 2: four at the moment, you've got Kanala and you've got
Speaker 2: the Roosters. I don't think either of them at the
Speaker 2: moment can challenge those two. The Roosters have they're another one,
Speaker 2: like just completely star studded outfit and for you know,
Speaker 2: somebody called them for twenty minutes every week they look
Speaker 2: like the Harlem Globe trotters, and then all of a
Speaker 2: sudden they switch off and again they're another team that
Speaker 2: hasn't found any consistency. They also haven't beaten anybody above
Speaker 2: them on the ladder this year, so I've lost to Kanala,
Speaker 2: I think they've lost to Melbourne twice, and I've lost
Speaker 2: to Penrith, so they don't really have a good record
Speaker 2: against the other genuine contenders. I don't know whether I'm
Speaker 2: thinking way too deeply into this, but if it holds
Speaker 2: true that defense wins Premierships, then you have to be
Speaker 2: you have to include Canterbury in that conversation at the moment.
Speaker 2: And it feels, I don't know, I feel it feels
Speaker 2: like I'm talking, you know, shit when I say it
Speaker 2: out loud, But I mean, I think the average points
Speaker 2: conceded in the last twenty years for the Premiere has
Speaker 2: been about sixteen points per game, and right now, outside
Speaker 2: of Penrith, Canbury are the best defensive team in the competition.
Speaker 1: Well, you do know twenty fourteen Grand Final, Yeah, Canterbury
Speaker 1: two thousand and four nineteen ninety four yep, and then yeah,
Speaker 1: let's not talk about eighty four.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know, maybe that's another one of those
Speaker 2: things that holds true, but yeah, if defense does win premierships,
Speaker 2: then you know, Canterbury has earned the right to be
Speaker 2: in that conversation.
Speaker 1: Going back to seventy four, could I give, I'll give,
Speaker 1: I'll give a sneaky for you.
Speaker 3: Like I said, I was on lad to Predict the
Speaker 3: last night, just with a friend on the phone, and
Speaker 3: we'll kind of.
Speaker 1: You must have a fascinating life.
Speaker 3: It was about nine. I just finished Joe Rogan's new
Speaker 3: comedy special on Netflix, and I was like, I wonder
Speaker 3: we may soon we went through the last couple of rounds.
Speaker 3: I think that I don't see the Panthers and the
Speaker 3: Storm both making the Grand Final. I think the Roosters
Speaker 3: still have a bit of footy left to play that
Speaker 3: we haven't seen yet. And I also think the Roosters
Speaker 3: is going to get up for someone like Jared for
Speaker 3: the last couple of weeks. I think it's really important
Speaker 3: to them and Robot will get that into them. So
Speaker 3: I can see a world where the Roosters play Panthers
Speaker 3: in week one of the finals and can somehow knock
Speaker 3: them off.
Speaker 1: This could be your last podcast. Just wait, just wait.
Speaker 3: I still see Panthers making the Grand Final though, because
Speaker 3: then I see Panthers beating the storm in the week before,
Speaker 3: and then I have a Rooster's Bulldogs Grand Final this year.
Speaker 1: Rooster's Bulldogs Grand Final. Wow? Okay, geez, can I ask
Speaker 1: about anything? Was there any illicit substances taken? That's wild?
Speaker 1: Although I do like I love the idea for Tima
Speaker 1: of the camp being a bit more open, because no, guys,
Speaker 1: I say it. I think it's it's absolutely sounds big
Speaker 1: bulb call. But it's penrith to lose. They just agree
Speaker 1: Bulldogs Panthers. Why don't they Roosters. I'm in Bulldogs Panthers.
Speaker 3: Hang because I said it, and then I was like, wait,
Speaker 3: that doesn't make sense. And then yeah, so Bulldogs Bulldogs
Speaker 3: will get in from the from outside of the fort
Speaker 3: and then Panthers will We'll get into the ground final
Speaker 3: by beating the storm.
Speaker 2: In the week before the ground v v His Panthers. Oh,
Speaker 2: I mean that would be I mean, we think about
Speaker 2: Grand finals and I know we're being we're probably being
Speaker 2: very you know, selfish as people from New South Wales.
Speaker 2: But that is like, you can't get any better than that.
Speaker 3: You need to be stuck in that car park at
Speaker 3: home Bush. I hate to be stuck in that car park.
Speaker 3: We transport the train as well.
Speaker 1: That's all you need. Yeah, it's I like that. I
Speaker 1: like that's interesting. You got me a little excited because
Speaker 1: it's funny. Penrith weren't great yesterday against Newcastle. Newcastle I
Speaker 1: thought fought really hard and for a team you know,
Speaker 1: down down on a little bit, but Penrith just seemed
Speaker 1: to find that way, that that bit of that bit
Speaker 1: of excellence that when you need that little five percent,
Speaker 1: Penrith have it. And they have it in different areas
Speaker 1: where you know, I know it's been Nathan clearly the
Speaker 1: last couple of weeks, but you've got jerme Leuyes been
Speaker 1: carrying them for a lot this season. Dylan Edwards still
Speaker 1: to come back when the forwards turn it on, it's I.
Speaker 2: Mean how yeah, I mean Isaiah YOUNGI was their third
Speaker 2: string fullback, do you know what I mean? And it's
Speaker 2: just it's ridiculous if they get the McLean brothers as.
Speaker 1: Well, and they've signed another one in Paris. Sorry, I'm
Speaker 1: just venting. Session'm still that over blaze to Lungey.
Speaker 2: Oh ok, yeah, I kick no, but it's just just
Speaker 2: on that. It just got me thinking. And I can't
Speaker 2: remember which because of covered Penrith quite close to the
Speaker 2: last couple of years, and I can't remember. It was
Speaker 2: after the winning the first Grand Fine. It's when I
Speaker 2: watch Pennies play, especially when they're completely like when they're peaking,
Speaker 2: when they're at their best, And it was something that
Speaker 2: I think it was Jerome that Dravivila. I said to me,
Speaker 2: we know how to win Grand finals now, and you
Speaker 2: can sort of see it when they're peaking, And I
Speaker 2: think that's probably another thing you talk about what separates
Speaker 2: them from everything else. They've got this sort of knowledge
Speaker 2: that you know on how to win big games that
Speaker 2: other teams just because they've been so good and so dominant,
Speaker 2: haven't had the chance to experience yet. So I think
Speaker 2: that also is another thing that's probably the difference for
Speaker 2: them that separates them from everyone else.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So am I right in saying I think the
Speaker 1: top seven spots standard mainly I think are sewn up.
Speaker 1: I think those seven teams will play finals. Are we
Speaker 1: happy to say that the remaining teams, your Dolphins, Raiders, Dragons,
Speaker 1: Knights are playing for the remaining spots and the Titans, who,
Speaker 1: although the Titans are not, both have to win all
Speaker 1: their games and overcomes some pretty horrific points differential. So
Speaker 1: I think your Raiders, unfortunately for Tima, have the toughest
Speaker 1: run of anyone on the way home.
Speaker 2: Oh sorry, I just need to I think I got
Speaker 2: the that a little bit wrong. So the Dragons at
Speaker 2: eighth at the moment, Dolphins are ninth, Camera are tenth,
Speaker 2: and the Titans.
Speaker 1: Times eleventh, ninth, twelfth, yere. But I think your Raiders,
Speaker 1: who are sitting in tenth, Seagulls at home, Cowboys away,
Speaker 1: Panthers at home, Roosters away, Dragons away. I can't. I
Speaker 1: can't see that getting him into the eighth. You know,
Speaker 1: the Dolphins, the last couple of weeks, their losses are
Speaker 1: going to come back to haunt them. I think, especially
Speaker 1: They've got the Warriors this week, but the next two
Speaker 1: weeks Tice, Bulldogs away, Storm away. I think that'll be costly.
Speaker 1: That's their season on the line.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think they. I think the Dolphins
Speaker 3: be the Warriors, depending on the result between the Bulldogs
Speaker 3: and the Dragons will vary how that game goes. I
Speaker 3: think I really think the Dolphins can only afford to
Speaker 3: drop one out of those and you're probably etching that
Speaker 3: against the Storm. So yeah, it's there's also.
Speaker 2: Like when you look at it and you know there's
Speaker 2: also Baniana pill games for all those sides in that
Speaker 2: run home. You know, like the eels I reckon are
Speaker 2: going to be a thorn for some sides the Titans
Speaker 2: are playing.
Speaker 1: Really try sucking up to me now it's too late.
Speaker 2: Titans have played some really good football. I mean, we
Speaker 2: saw that the Knights refuse to go against the Panthers
Speaker 2: and sort of those three sides.
Speaker 1: Titans could be the best second half football team I've
Speaker 1: ever seen. Yeah, what about that halftime sprays from Das
Speaker 1: must be epic? My goodness, there's second Halve's lately been terrific.
Speaker 1: But that's shows what potential they've got. I know, I
Speaker 1: think from this year, from next year on with des
Speaker 1: having his second year, to see what he can do
Speaker 1: with them.
Speaker 2: But you know they're still a J. Brimson and No.
Speaker 2: Ten from Lali, so it's definitely got But that's what
Speaker 2: we sort of expected anyway, what we're seeing now from
Speaker 2: the Titans is what we sort of thought Des was
Speaker 2: going to deliver right from the start. It just took
Speaker 2: a little bit of a while for everything to gel
Speaker 2: and then out of nowhere Kinney dispersed onto the scene
Speaker 2: and he just you know, has added another sort of
Speaker 2: X factor player for them. So yeah, but sides like
Speaker 2: the Titans, like the Eels, like the Knights, I reckon
Speaker 2: will have a bit of a say into how the
Speaker 2: top eight ends up ends up looking I.
Speaker 1: Think, yeah, well, the Dragons have got two really big
Speaker 1: although they've got a lot of big games because they're
Speaker 1: sitting in eighth with the bad points differential, but they're
Speaker 1: on twenty six points there, two points ahead of camera
Speaker 1: and then who were over of the Gold Coast in
Speaker 1: the night, so they've got that advantage. Sorry, yeah, ahead
Speaker 1: of Dolphins and Camera. But the next two weeks Bulldogs
Speaker 1: at home, Titans at home and there basically home. Well,
Speaker 1: those first to four point turnaround game for you, where
Speaker 1: you sit on the ladder, you know you can put
Speaker 1: yourself that you know you can you can climb up
Speaker 1: towards Canterbury, or you can escape the Gold Coast there
Speaker 1: and then you've got that Shark's home game, which is huge,
Speaker 1: and then they finish off a way to Paramatta and
Speaker 1: then Camber again at home. So it's a winnable lot
Speaker 1: of games. But if that schizophrenic Dragon's outfit what you
Speaker 1: earlier turn up, who knows. So's yeah, it's getting interesting.
Speaker 1: But yeah, from teams that didn't make it last year, Canterbury,
Speaker 1: Manly St Georgia, Lawarov got them coming in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, yeah, I think, like I said earlier,
Speaker 2: I think Canberra had to win that game against Doggies
Speaker 2: just to keep their chances alive. You look at their run,
Speaker 2: it's probably a bit maybe a stretch too far. So
Speaker 2: the same with the Dolphins. You know, they're sort of
Speaker 2: sort of going through the same late season fade out
Speaker 2: as they did last year. So I mean, if you
Speaker 2: look at the if you look at the way the
Speaker 2: top eight looks at the moment, it's probably going to
Speaker 2: be that way in five weeks.
Speaker 1: And the Cowboys have got to buy as well, which
Speaker 1: means they only need one win to book a final spot.
Speaker 1: But Bronco's Raiders Storm Bulldogs not an easy run, so
Speaker 1: you know, for a team that's sitting six. Then you know,
Speaker 1: potentially could push for a top four spot. It's a
Speaker 1: tough lot of games. If they managed to win those,
Speaker 1: who knows, but you know, they could sort of slip
Speaker 1: down that pecking order a little bit.
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't like the Cowboys, so I think
Speaker 3: if a team's going to slip out, it's going to
Speaker 3: be them. To be honest, I don't think they're locked in.
Speaker 1: Was that.
Speaker 3: I just think they're too inconsistent, way, way, way too inconsistent.
Speaker 1: They've got twenty eight points, they're sitting in six.
Speaker 3: They almost I spoke to Todd Payden after their game
Speaker 3: against the Tigers and he was worried if Isa Popoli
Speaker 3: scored that they were going to lose and they had
Speaker 3: twelve men on the field, Like you're I said it
Speaker 3: from from day dot. They they tend to just be scraping,
Speaker 3: scraping by, scraping by. If they lose a couple of
Speaker 3: the next ones and you know, things go right for
Speaker 3: these other teams, they can slide out. I don't think
Speaker 3: it's as locked in as as maybe.
Speaker 1: It looks as maybe I'm saying, just call it if
Speaker 1: you want to go after me that's fine.
Speaker 2: Yeah did you when you did you allow to predictor yesterday?
Speaker 2: Where did you have them? Okay?
Speaker 1: Wow, you sneaking in ahead of them.
Speaker 3: I've got the Dragons and the Dolphins.
Speaker 1: Dragons and Dolphins.
Speaker 3: Yeah wow, I don't think dragons nights. I saw Dragons,
Speaker 3: Titans and Dolphins can make it. But I think the
Speaker 3: Dragons and the Dolphins can make it over the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: Wow, you're predicting a really to our North Queensland listeners,
Speaker 1: I must apologize that. I'll send your Tyson mobile number
Speaker 1: for when they do make the eight so you can
Speaker 1: ring and give him a bagging. But that's It's interesting.
Speaker 2: I think they might be the worst defensive side in
Speaker 2: the top eight at the moment too. They're scoring a
Speaker 2: lot of points, but they're conceding a hell of a
Speaker 2: lot of points as well.
Speaker 3: So who do they have? Have the Queensland Derby. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so they've got the Broncos, which can always go either
Speaker 3: way no matter where the team's sitting, The Raiders they've
Speaker 3: got the buy which is two points in the storm,
Speaker 3: and the Bulldogs. Like, realistically, they could lose all four
Speaker 3: of those games. So I think I think it's a
Speaker 3: tough drawer, right, and you're struggling to beat my tigers.
Speaker 1: Mate, you've got you've got a bulldog's Panthers Grand Final.
Speaker 1: We've got the Cowboys slipping from six to out of
Speaker 1: the eight. I like the way the last few weeks
Speaker 1: is going to go up topsy turvy with according to
Speaker 1: the Tyson Jackson system.
Speaker 2: Got three of three of the last four up in Townsville.
Speaker 2: So then might give them a bit of an advantage.
Speaker 3: You take that, Tys, talk to me in five weeks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what we want here.
Speaker 2: Wait, so what's your what's your prediction?
Speaker 1: I've got drag I've got the top eight.
Speaker 2: As it is as it is, Yeah, I sort of
Speaker 2: I tend to.
Speaker 1: Agree with I think the Dragons are going to sneak in.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: If they because twenty six points, they're going to win.
Speaker 1: You get three weeks out of one to three wins
Speaker 1: out of five win lost win lost win or lost
Speaker 1: win lost win. Ohy, gonna be called one short. If
Speaker 1: they can't win back to back games again, they're going
Speaker 1: to have to. That's a challenge, isn't it.
Speaker 3: It has to be. This week tells you what's gonna
Speaker 3: happen with the Dragons. If they can pull it off
Speaker 3: against the Bulldogs, then it was in Wooingngrang. I'd probably
Speaker 3: say that you can almost lock the Dragons in. They
Speaker 3: have a really good record there. But Cogras it's only
Speaker 3: ten minutes away from Belmore, I think they'll be is
Speaker 3: it me?
Speaker 2: And again, this might be a generational thing, but is
Speaker 2: it me or is the local derby between We can
Speaker 2: call it that right because the geographically neighbors between Canterbury
Speaker 2: and the Dragons have sort of overtaken the one that
Speaker 2: they have with the Sharks. I know there's it's you
Speaker 2: know that's always been sort of the traditional one, but
Speaker 2: I feel like there's always a bit more mission.
Speaker 3: Like generation or the Dragons and the Sharks as of
Speaker 3: recent I've always been on opposite sides of the Learner.
Speaker 3: There's always been a bit more to playful between the
Speaker 3: Dogs and the Dragons, I feel. But now with the
Speaker 3: Dog's warback.
Speaker 1: It's great to have Darby's. It's great when teams are
Speaker 1: playing well, that's when Darby's matters.
Speaker 3: I love sets like.
Speaker 1: Paramount of playing Penrith this week. It's a big game
Speaker 1: for Penrith. You know, if you're going well, that's what
Speaker 1: you say, but I love that kind of bender. But
Speaker 1: I love Derby's. I think they're great in footy. So
Speaker 1: I look forward to this weekend. But I've got to
Speaker 1: ask you. I want to get your thoughts on who
Speaker 1: is your most improved player this year because we're having
Speaker 1: a chat about this before and there's some names on
Speaker 1: our list, but there's no award for this officially anywhere,
Speaker 1: but we could go and hand out some plak to somebody.
Speaker 1: But the first name that came to my list was
Speaker 1: Jacob Carraz, who is I think is playing some really
Speaker 1: mature football at Canterbury. He's been asked to play. You know,
Speaker 1: he goes on the wings to come into center and
Speaker 1: each time he's done it. You know, I've seen a
Speaker 1: lot out of him. I know he's only a couple
Speaker 1: of years into his career, but really really impressing me.
Speaker 3: Oh it's a good it's a good pick. But when
Speaker 3: you say most improved, only think of Ja Krask. I
Speaker 3: think Jame Kraz has always been really good, Like he
Speaker 3: hasn't really had a rollercoaster re form. He's just playing
Speaker 3: more consistently this year. Last year, I think he had
Speaker 3: a couple of injuries and was in and out of
Speaker 3: the team.
Speaker 2: But we had a he had had a back injury, yeah,
Speaker 2: that he had to manage, and there was a bit
Speaker 2: of talk that you know, he might have to see
Speaker 2: out in the first couple of rounds of the season,
Speaker 2: but he was able to get it good and he's
Speaker 2: been amazing since because he's I was having a look
Speaker 2: at actually some of his stats and I didn't realize, like,
Speaker 2: obviously he's a meter eater, but to average one hundred
Speaker 2: and ninety odd meters is that's just ridiculous. Yeah, it
Speaker 2: really is.
Speaker 1: He's only twenty two. He debuted a couple of years ago.
Speaker 1: But he's winning percentage up until this year was third
Speaker 1: three thirty three percent. Now the Bulldogs this year or
Speaker 1: almost sixty percent. So playing what fifty odd games for
Speaker 1: Canterbury in those two years is almost like one hundred
Speaker 1: anywhere else because you're forged in fire and but yeah,
Speaker 1: you're right for him. He's almost doubled his line breaks
Speaker 1: this year. He's improved, he's running meters, he's a good finisher,
Speaker 1: but I think his football maturity is really excelling. So
Speaker 1: I just think you know, you're right, Tys he hasn't
Speaker 1: had a dip to be most improved, but he's been
Speaker 1: coming along and I think this year he's been one
Speaker 1: of the beneficiaries of what Cameron Sera has come to
Speaker 1: do with that club. The other guy at the Bulldogs
Speaker 1: is Reed Marnie.
Speaker 2: He's the one I would think, like, I know, obviously
Speaker 2: he's been there, paid some big games and got a
Speaker 2: lot of experience at the moment, but he just looks
Speaker 2: like a completely different player to what he was last year,
Speaker 2: and almost a different player to what he was at
Speaker 2: the Eels. So you know, I feel like he's got
Speaker 2: a more all rounded game in a different role and
Speaker 2: he does and it suits him.
Speaker 3: You say, Rollet really interesting because I feel that this
Speaker 3: year he's picked up more of a leadership role without
Speaker 3: the captaincy beside him. You see him really trying to
Speaker 3: lead that team up front and trying to make things happen,
Speaker 3: even things like as much as I dislike it, but
Speaker 3: ripping into players like you know, that gets them up,
Speaker 3: that that works for them, and there's teams like that.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I tend to agree with you with with Reid.
Speaker 3: For me personally, I think Tommy's allow from Manley has
Speaker 3: been probably the most improved player in the competition. You
Speaker 3: look at you know he's he always was that guy.
Speaker 3: When he played for the Tigers. You looked at him
Speaker 3: and you're like, you've got so much potential, but they're
Speaker 3: just I don't know what between injuries injuries and like
Speaker 3: even when he wasn't injured, he tend tended to find
Speaker 3: himself playing cup a lot there. But he's been He's
Speaker 3: been awesome for especially on the wing, I think for
Speaker 3: the Seagulls, getting out of trouble, scoring tries. I think
Speaker 3: he's been great. Also, we can't look past Mitch Barnett.
Speaker 3: He's had an amazing year for the Warriors, and I
Speaker 3: think his Game three for the Blues was a big
Speaker 3: reason why why they did so well as well.
Speaker 2: Can you Brooks in there? I feel like he just
Speaker 2: I feel like this year at the Seagulls we've actually
Speaker 2: kind of seen its potential that everybody spent the best
Speaker 2: part of a decade talking about just the way he
Speaker 2: runs the football. He's free, So I feel like he's
Speaker 2: definitely a more improved player at the Seagulls.
Speaker 1: Then he's in an approved team, isn't he. I saw
Speaker 1: his running game the Tigers. I don't think he was
Speaker 1: the blame for the ills of that club club.
Speaker 3: I think the reason why I didn't even think of
Speaker 3: Luke Brooks is because I watch him play for many
Speaker 3: and I still see the same player. I think the
Speaker 3: only difference is no one's talking about him, which for
Speaker 3: him I'm so happy for because he got hammered for
Speaker 3: no reason at times at the Tigers. So I mean,
Speaker 3: I tend to disagree with you're saying most improved because
Speaker 3: I think he's still the same player. It's just the
Speaker 3: spotlights off him, and I think having someone like DC
Speaker 3: beside him has has taken that pressure off him. And
Speaker 3: he's doing his role. He's not doing anything spectacular, He's
Speaker 3: doing what he needs so he's running games great. It's
Speaker 3: helping them, you know, have some really polished plays. And yes,
Speaker 3: I don't seem as the most improved. I see him
Speaker 3: as just you know, the attentions of him. I guess
Speaker 3: he's flying under the radar.
Speaker 1: But you're right, we're seeing a lot more of that, yeah,
Speaker 1: in that team, in that better setup.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and not to continue that the Tiger's trend, but
Speaker 2: I feel like someone like Shaun blow as well, I
Speaker 2: don't know if he's being most improved, but he's definitely
Speaker 2: improved after going to Melbourne and it was a bit
Speaker 2: of a slow start for him, you know. I don't
Speaker 2: know whether it's a fitness thing or just took time
Speaker 2: to learn the Melbourne system. He missed out in the
Speaker 2: first couple of games, came back I think was selected
Speaker 2: in round three, hasn't looked back since. And get one
Speaker 2: of those guys where when he was at Penris, because
Speaker 2: he came from penrist to the Tiger from memory, just
Speaker 2: another one bit like Tommy Till out right just sort
Speaker 2: of couldn't really kick on when he was at the Tigers,
Speaker 2: and now it was just this big destructive edge forward
Speaker 2: that we sort of expect him. He's just reached the
Speaker 2: potential that we knew that he could.
Speaker 3: I remember his debut game against the Eels and he
Speaker 3: picked out Nathan Brown and every time Nathan Brown ran,
Speaker 3: Seawan Blaw was there. Every time Sean Blaw ran, Nathan
Speaker 3: Brown was there, and all Tigers supports were like, we've
Speaker 3: got ourselves a gem here. And then yeah, like you said.
Speaker 2: Just same, he's another one who had injuries. I think
Speaker 2: he might.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he had a couple of injuries, but just tended
Speaker 3: to not kick on. And then we were hearing reports
Speaker 3: that when he went to Storm, he when he went
Speaker 3: to the Storm, he was struggling fitness wise and intensity
Speaker 3: wise for their preseason. So yeah, again, like yeah, I
Speaker 3: probably do tend to agree more on blow than books
Speaker 3: with that because he has improved.
Speaker 1: What about what about Jadon Campbell? He was identified last
Speaker 1: year as a potential X factor for the Eels and
Speaker 1: I looked at went really is a bit small. I
Speaker 1: don't know where it quite where he fits and injuries
Speaker 1: and positional switches, et cetera. But I think he's thriving
Speaker 1: with the five eighth with number six Jersey on his back.
Speaker 1: I like his running game. When we're talking about Luke Brooks,
Speaker 1: I like what he's doing there. I'm really enjoying watching
Speaker 1: his footy when I flick on to see the times, Okay,
Speaker 1: I want to watch what Jaden Campbell's doing.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: It was one of those ones where for a long
Speaker 2: time he was probably a victim of that X factor
Speaker 2: tag because it meant that he got shuffled around a
Speaker 2: little bit, like is he X fact off the bench?
Speaker 2: Is he like a backline impact player. Is he a fullback?
Speaker 2: Is he you know, where is his best position? But
Speaker 2: I think it's also like what Tyson said about Brooks
Speaker 2: and DCE, I think Ford has done also a pretty
Speaker 2: good job of being a foil for Jaden Campbell. So
Speaker 2: he's taken off a lot of that pressure where the
Speaker 2: only thing he has to do is run, and like
Speaker 2: you said, in that situation, his smaller size, his agility
Speaker 2: when sides are fatigued, like we saw, you know, against
Speaker 2: the Broncos, he really comes to the foe and so yeah,
Speaker 2: absolutely you'd tap him in that conversation. It's just a
Speaker 2: bit interesting to see is this his position? And he
Speaker 2: might be forced into that position just by the fact
Speaker 2: of the emergence of Kinney And they've still got a J.
Speaker 2: Brimson to come into the side, So.
Speaker 3: There's that long jam there at the Titans. It's I mean,
Speaker 3: it's a headache for des but I mean it's almost
Speaker 3: a good headache. I don't see where you fit Brimson
Speaker 3: in though, now because of how good Campbell's going in
Speaker 3: the five eight and then obviously got Kinney up the back,
Speaker 3: he's been a revelation for them. So yeah, again, he's
Speaker 3: probably he's always had that skill there. It's not like
Speaker 3: he ever played poorly. But moving into five eighth, I
Speaker 3: guess we've seen more of him, and we've seen him
Speaker 3: play consistently and I guess almost get involved. He said
Speaker 3: he loves tackling as well, which I mean, he's a
Speaker 3: small guy. He'd be the first person you want to
Speaker 3: run at. So I guess yeah, position wise, it's a
Speaker 3: big improvement.
Speaker 1: And a couple of others throw up this up quick
Speaker 1: Terrell May, I think it's been vastly. I think he
Speaker 1: stepped up. I think he stepped up big time. So
Speaker 1: when Lindsay Collins went down the other night and Torell
Speaker 1: May is the guy that made a stack of tackles,
Speaker 1: stack of hit ups. It's been a mainstay in the
Speaker 1: Danny Crankovitch thirteen my super Coach team this year, so I.
Speaker 2: Think it might be in mind as well. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: might have started the season with him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I kept ignoring Tommy Sankster's intimation that
Speaker 1: I should sell him if I'm just gonna hold, just
Speaker 1: gonna hold, and yeah, proved revelation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And speaking of logjams, the rooster sort of when
Speaker 2: you look at their forward pack, there is a bit
Speaker 2: of a log jam there so but still like even
Speaker 2: though you know, still guys like Lindsay Collins now spent
Speaker 2: so Lennie you you know, obviously Jared's moving on, but
Speaker 2: still that log jam of prop forwards in front of him,
Speaker 2: but that hasn't seemed to bother him and he has
Speaker 2: taken his game to another level. It'll be interesting to
Speaker 2: see post Jared what that forward pack looks like. Whether
Speaker 2: Terrell's a starter with a spence Learning's a starter. But
Speaker 2: I think what's really promising about him is it doesn't
Speaker 2: matter whether you start him or whether he's off the bench.
Speaker 2: The impact that he plays with has been massive for them.
Speaker 1: And what do you make I had to throw this
Speaker 1: guy in Jaden Sewer, Yeah, I think he's.
Speaker 3: Been he's been really good. We've did him play Origin
Speaker 3: a couple of years ago and it looked like he
Speaker 3: was really going to kick on and then obviously had
Speaker 3: I think a bit of a quiet last year, came
Speaker 3: back into the Origin arena this year, although didn't hold
Speaker 3: his spot for Game three. I think that's almost a
Speaker 3: fire under him and we've seen his best foot after
Speaker 3: after the Origin series, So yeah, I think he's definitely
Speaker 3: improved this year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, interesting what our listeners think, so send him
Speaker 1: Send me an email, guy, Adam Mobs.
Speaker 2: This is one of those ones where I feel like
Speaker 2: there's going to be some names that we've missed. So
Speaker 2: if anybody has had.
Speaker 1: Any ideas, let us know, Adam dot Mobs at news
Speaker 1: dot com that you let us know, because yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: sure there's Jacob Little, Tyrone Wishart, There's guys all through
Speaker 1: here that we could talk about. What we needed to
Speaker 1: move on to is Fatima's favorite segment?
Speaker 2: Is it?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: What are you watching?
Speaker 1: Watch? Well, I'm I'm only watching Olympics at the moment
Speaker 1: because I'm so busy with I love my Olympics. I've
Speaker 1: just I'm fallen into that. But I have been receiving
Speaker 1: some notes from our listeners on disaster movies, because you know,
Speaker 1: that's kind of been my stick the last few weeks.
Speaker 1: Tim sent me an email and said, if Fatima likes
Speaker 1: True Stories, Pam likes Celine Dion, and I'm a disaster
Speaker 1: movie buff, we should get together to watch Titanic. He said, thanks,
Speaker 1: he loves the podcast. Yeah, I thought that was nice
Speaker 1: and Tesa listening in from Zurich in Switzerland. He says
Speaker 1: The Tearing Inferno is the best disaster movie ever, aid
Speaker 1: Paul Newman. Steve McQueen need I go on, but I will.
Speaker 1: It's not an over the top stupid movie, but more
Speaker 1: a foreshadowing of what could happen to these skyscraper has
Speaker 1: been built in the sixties and seventies. The tension starts
Speaker 1: building early and the time flies by.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and is it like the.
Speaker 1: Nineteen seventy four and there's a bloke on there?
Speaker 2: O J.
Speaker 1: Simpson. So I don't know whether I got it. I
Speaker 1: got to admit I haven't seen this, So I'm going
Speaker 1: to go and see whether O Jay is as good
Speaker 1: in this as he was in the Naked Gun series.
Speaker 1: Now you guys are a bit younger. Did you ever
Speaker 1: see Naked Gun? Leslie Nielsen.
Speaker 2: I've heard of it, but I haven't seen it.
Speaker 1: Watched the first You watched the first one and you
Speaker 1: didn't follow it up with Naked Gun.
Speaker 3: My parents.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've heard of Paul Newman. I don't think I've
Speaker 2: ever watched a movie.
Speaker 1: I've heard of Paul Newman, Oh my goodness.
Speaker 2: Other than The Towering Inferno has any Wait, let me
Speaker 2: rephrase that. What other prominent movies should I have watched
Speaker 2: that he's been He's.
Speaker 1: Pretty much just a legend of screen. So we're going
Speaker 1: to go.
Speaker 2: And it doesn't even make tomato sauce.
Speaker 1: It's like George Former makes grills. Oh my god, move on,
Speaker 1: I'm out. That's it. You've lost me.
Speaker 2: Sorry, Okay, I am. I'm actually still going through my
Speaker 2: true crime face so I'm up to So I was
Speaker 2: watching New York Homicide. I'm up to Los Angele's Homicide,
Speaker 2: which is like the second season of that show. I'm
Speaker 2: also still going through Supercell as well. So I thought,
Speaker 2: rather than because I'm not watching anything new, I will
Speaker 2: recommend Sweet Tooth, which is I don't know whether it's
Speaker 2: based on a book or not. Sorry, I watch things
Speaker 2: without doing too much research. But basically, it's a world
Speaker 2: where there are hybrid children, so that a part human,
Speaker 2: part animal, and they're like, I don't know, trying to
Speaker 2: find some people are trying to find a cure cure
Speaker 2: for it. But to find a cure, I think they
Speaker 2: have to like exterminate the hybrid children. It's it's interesting,
Speaker 2: it's a bit sci fi debate. The hybrids are cute.
Speaker 2: It's a fun, easy watch.
Speaker 1: I'm interested.
Speaker 2: It's one of I think it was. The first season
Speaker 2: was one of the most popular shows on Netflix.
Speaker 3: Well, I guess continuing on with your mutant type things,
Speaker 3: I went and watched Wolverine or Deadpool and Wolverine on
Speaker 3: the weekend. I'm not a big superhero guy. I like Batman,
Speaker 3: but that's about it. So yeah, I was. I really
Speaker 3: enjoyed this movie. I thought it was funny, good action scenes.
Speaker 3: Hugh Jackman's aussy gem, so that was nice.
Speaker 2: So is it like Deadpool the Wolverine or are they
Speaker 2: like you've.
Speaker 1: Seen the first one?
Speaker 2: I seen Deadpool, you have.
Speaker 3: I think they're like that. They're like a team is
Speaker 3: the best way to put it. But yeah, watched watch
Speaker 3: the movie for team.
Speaker 2: It's a there's two Deadpools, right, is there two?
Speaker 1: This is the third?
Speaker 3: This is the third, third installment. Yeah, so it was
Speaker 3: really funny. I was laughing out loud in the cinema,
Speaker 3: which I'm a bit bat.
Speaker 1: We're laughing when he was making out with the ugly Dog.
Speaker 1: It was literally the world ugliest dog starts in this movie.
Speaker 1: I've seen a clip. It's disturb That was pretty funny.
Speaker 3: It was good to see. The cinema was packed as well,
Speaker 3: which is always nice, so there was no free seats
Speaker 3: in there.
Speaker 1: Big bands back for Marvel, couple of stinkers.
Speaker 3: I stopped watching after the most recent Spider Man. I
Speaker 3: think that was my last one, and then I was like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I can't watch.
Speaker 1: Who do you know a spider Man?
Speaker 3: Spider Man growing up Tom Holand has been.
Speaker 2: Pretty good since Tom Holands Superman.
Speaker 1: Spider Man.
Speaker 2: I don't watch too many superhero movies. Is Joker super superhero?
Speaker 3: He's a villain, He's in DC.
Speaker 1: We're on mar You will be upsetting people.
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm going to be judged for this.
Speaker 2: The last the last time I went into a cinema
Speaker 2: to watch the.
Speaker 1: Movie Footage of the Dog.
Speaker 2: Sorry, yeah, it was The Joker. That was the last
Speaker 2: movie I watched in the cinema. It's been years now.
Speaker 3: The second one is coming out soon. The team will
Speaker 3: be back in the same guys.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll give you at some homework and season from
Speaker 2: from from the cinema.
Speaker 1: We're going to give you hots vouchers and just going
Speaker 1: to make you sit there and watch some classics.
Speaker 2: So I would say, now, well.
Speaker 1: We're better push off. But i just want to thank
Speaker 1: everyone for tuning in because I'm sure there's a thousand
Speaker 1: Rugby league podcasts around there, so it's nice that you
Speaker 1: spent some time stopping by with us. So again, disaster movies,
Speaker 1: if there's any others or any other suggestions for it.
Speaker 2: I didn't say it was like a disaster months. Yeah,
Speaker 2: well to August now, so you still have you got
Speaker 2: any the Olympics.
Speaker 1: The Olympics got in the way, so I'm straight back
Speaker 1: into what.
Speaker 2: Can be a new se for August. Have you got any.
Speaker 1: Ideas My daughter's getting to the age he's fifteen now,
Speaker 1: wants to start watching some more mature movies, but what
Speaker 1: matures in content? So I'm talking ted and things like that.
Speaker 1: I'm going, no, there's we're not watching that. It's just
Speaker 1: oh yeah, just terrible.
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, maybe give her a couple of years.
Speaker 1: No, no, someone will be reporting me to docks from this,
Speaker 1: so we'll get back to work. Thanks for stopping by.
Speaker 2: Thank you,