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<v Speaker 1>Apod Shake Production.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to another episode of Am I A Bad Mom?

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<v Speaker 3>Podcast?

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<v Speaker 2>We constantly asked the same question, and actually I was

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<v Speaker 2>having a conversation with someone the other day about alcohol

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<v Speaker 2>in mums. I won't get into the darkness of it,

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<v Speaker 2>but how there's an unhealthy relationship with alcohol in.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of mums.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I was like, I can so relate, Like

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<v Speaker 2>you can so relate.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you think it's more secretive with mums than it

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<v Speaker 4>is with dads? Like dads is just like they sit

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<v Speaker 4>there and they just have a beer and it's just

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<v Speaker 4>what they do. And with mum, it's like I might

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<v Speaker 4>have a wine a bit earlier before people come home,

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<v Speaker 4>so then you know, you don't get that distinct lab

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<v Speaker 4>that goes with it of like, oh, sorry, you just

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<v Speaker 4>had a wine at five and now you're having another

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<v Speaker 4>wine whilst you're cooking dinner. And I'm like saying it

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<v Speaker 4>because it is a thing like I've questioned myself a

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<v Speaker 4>few times, which we've talked about, where you go do

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<v Speaker 4>you really Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>There's definitely a shame around it. And I also think

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<v Speaker 2>it's kind of a because being a mum is so hard.

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<v Speaker 3>It's almost like it's.

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<v Speaker 2>The kind of the reward of going, Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>like such a busy day.

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<v Speaker 3>There was so much going on. I managed to get

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<v Speaker 3>them to.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, football or dance or whatever it is. We

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<v Speaker 2>got home, we did dinner, We've done lunch.

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<v Speaker 3>Boxes and blah blah blah, bah blah blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 3>You're thinking of a million things.

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<v Speaker 1>It's that.

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<v Speaker 3>Now I'm gonna have a wine. Now I'm gonna relax.

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<v Speaker 3>Kids are in bed. It's kind of my time.

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<v Speaker 2>We laugh about it too, like even on our logo,

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<v Speaker 2>We've got mom with a.

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<v Speaker 3>Glass of wine.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, and actually at it now the bottle was

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<v Speaker 2>nearly empty. So it's that whole when's too early to

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<v Speaker 2>have a wine?

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<v Speaker 3>Like laugh about it. But yeah, I was actually having

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<v Speaker 3>a serious conversation.

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, it's having a real serious conversation with someone,

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<v Speaker 4>or just with yourself.

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<v Speaker 3>I was having a conversation with someone, genuinely.

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<v Speaker 4>I have conversations with myself, Like I have moments where

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like I try and ask myself the question, why

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<v Speaker 4>are you having this? Why are you choosing to have

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<v Speaker 4>a cider instead of a soda water?

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<v Speaker 1>Why?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, you know, it's more fun but yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, that's where I'm going to leave that one.

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<v Speaker 3>The amount of times my kids have gone, why are

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<v Speaker 3>you drinking wine? I'm like because of you falls.

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<v Speaker 4>Am I a bad mom for creating bad habits?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. So I don't know where I stand

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<v Speaker 1>or land with this one. Katie. Currently Channel nine.

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<v Speaker 4>Has a TV show on corn Maths.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I'm oh, I feel like.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, literally, you know, at a meeting where you

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<v Speaker 4>own your bad behavior.

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<v Speaker 1>That's where I.

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<v Speaker 2>Am funny because you love maths like you've loved maths

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<v Speaker 2>for years always. Your husband was recently on I'm a Celebrity.

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<v Speaker 1>Get Me out of Here, really different channels.

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<v Speaker 2>You had a bit of a battle when Maths started

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<v Speaker 2>showing at the same time on the opposite channel. It's like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I should really watch my husband, but I actually really

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<v Speaker 2>like Maths.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>So to give you a really clear view, I don't

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<v Speaker 4>watch any other TV for the entire year. I barely

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<v Speaker 4>sit down. I know, it's really hard to believe that

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<v Speaker 4>I don't sit down to watch TV. And if I

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<v Speaker 4>watch a Netflix series, it's usually like an eight part

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<v Speaker 4>series that's like got me. But then I have to

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<v Speaker 4>binge the whole thing, and then I'm down. I don't

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<v Speaker 4>need to kind of thing like I'm genuinely. I train early,

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<v Speaker 4>I go to bed early, I work early, so TV

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<v Speaker 4>is not my go.

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<v Speaker 2>To right Xactually quite funny that you love math because

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<v Speaker 2>you're not that kind of trashy TV. So the person

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<v Speaker 2>I'm that person, I love kardask I've never watched a

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<v Speaker 2>favorite episode of Kardashians in my life to this day.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that trashy I watched Real Housewives of Beverly

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<v Speaker 2>Hills like I.

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<v Speaker 3>Love that trashy shit.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't watch like heaps a bit like I've got

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<v Speaker 2>no I don't money.

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<v Speaker 4>Of those, but I don't have any, which is why

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<v Speaker 4>I get so much shit around this.

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<v Speaker 1>Right. So, in my house, if my mum.

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<v Speaker 4>Chooses to call in and stay the night, what are

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<v Speaker 4>you watching this ship for? Can we have a little

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<v Speaker 4>bit less please, I'm trying to watch TV show, so

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<v Speaker 4>going now into creating bad habits for children? Yes, mum

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<v Speaker 4>called over, Mom stayed the night. We've eaten dinner, and

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<v Speaker 4>the girls and I watched Maths from somebody?

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<v Speaker 1>Why am I going quiet? Seven thirty to eight?

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<v Speaker 4>And then they go to bed and then I'll watch

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<v Speaker 4>the end of it kind of thing, but they'll do

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<v Speaker 4>reading and do their usual thing and then eight thirties bedtimes.

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<v Speaker 4>That's how our household runs, obviously, not maths every night.

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<v Speaker 4>That's genuinely how it all runs.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 4>Mum being there, she was like, what is this shit?

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<v Speaker 4>Why are you letting them watch this?

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<v Speaker 1>Rachel?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, this is not even real life. This is not

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<v Speaker 4>real TV. And I was like, I know they know, like,

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<v Speaker 4>well they don't know, but I'm trying to tell them

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<v Speaker 4>that it's not. But it's like one of those things

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<v Speaker 4>Katie that I go, I don't ever watch anything else.

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<v Speaker 4>And yes, it is trashy TV, and no, it is

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<v Speaker 4>absolutely by far not honest or healthy relationships coming out

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<v Speaker 4>of this right and the way that they behave on there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes we know how it works.

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<v Speaker 4>There's structured people behind it making a lot of shit unfold,

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<v Speaker 4>and then our own behavior within those certain situations.

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<v Speaker 1>Reality TV is.

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<v Speaker 4>Really hard, yeah, really hard, Like the background of it

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<v Speaker 4>is tough and brutal, yet people continue to do it.

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<v Speaker 4>So then we choose to watch it, and then I

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<v Speaker 4>let my kids watch it, but then my mum comes

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<v Speaker 4>in absolutely ridicules me for it. You are teaching them

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<v Speaker 4>bad habits. Love you, Nanity, and then I feel bad

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<v Speaker 4>for it, but I don't stop doing it.

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<v Speaker 3>My kids watch. This is worse.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm putting it to you to go watch your

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<v Speaker 1>kids watch.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, this is potentially fucking up their whole reality of

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<v Speaker 4>what life is actually about.

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<v Speaker 2>They watch Love Island and they are obsessed with it

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<v Speaker 2>to the point where they act out the people and

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<v Speaker 2>they go, Hi, I'm twenty two and I'm from Essex.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 2>And then they said to me one day, Amelia goes, Mum,

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<v Speaker 2>when i'm.

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<v Speaker 3>Older, I'm going to go on Love Island.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not.

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<v Speaker 2>No, You're fucking not still watching that shit, and she's joking.

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<v Speaker 2>But they love it. They love Love Islands, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't watch it with them because you know, they're

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<v Speaker 2>teenagers and that doesn't happen now. But but I do

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<v Speaker 2>hear the stories and see little snippets of the people

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<v Speaker 2>that are.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm like, probably don't put that as your.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, tagline, your goal, your dreams. Don't aspire to

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<v Speaker 1>be on it. And we you know what.

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<v Speaker 4>Weirdly enough, ten and twelve the girls my girls, and

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<v Speaker 4>I'm having those conversations with them going this is absolutely

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<v Speaker 4>not real life, just FYI, and it is not how

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<v Speaker 4>you're going to generate or look for love in another Okay, just.

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<v Speaker 1>Letting you know.

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<v Speaker 4>If you come to me and tell me you're on MATHS,

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<v Speaker 4>I will not support it. We're having a gig or rat. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 4>also need to put in a disclaimer that when they

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<v Speaker 4>do the Intimacy Week in Maths, the kids don't watch.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not for them.

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<v Speaker 4>They are allowed to watch the dinner parties and they're like,

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<v Speaker 4>you know all that stuff, but the Intimacy Week, it's

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<v Speaker 4>a no go.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't watch that. We have a laugh about it,

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<v Speaker 1>watch it for half an hour a night.

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<v Speaker 4>But what did you watch as a kid that your

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<v Speaker 4>parents let you watch that you reckon really fucked up

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<v Speaker 4>your view on things?

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<v Speaker 1>If there was any.

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<v Speaker 2>Silence of the Lambs, Yeah, I watched Silence of the Lambs.

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<v Speaker 2>I recognize about ten.

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<v Speaker 4>I think I was Gracie's age, and we went to

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<v Speaker 4>a day where we went and did videos at a

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<v Speaker 4>friend's house and she put on that what's the other one?

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<v Speaker 4>That Stephen King with the clown clown come up out

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<v Speaker 4>of the thing in the drain was that the clowns

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<v Speaker 4>it maybe I don't know the one whatever that came

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<v Speaker 4>up from the drain on the ground, and would like

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<v Speaker 4>I genuinely will not still walk next to a great

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<v Speaker 4>like that on a road.

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<v Speaker 3>Weird sound comes out.

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<v Speaker 4>But in terms of like my mum just gonna throw

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<v Speaker 4>down a d under the bus because she obviously this

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<v Speaker 4>is where this topic has come from. She let us

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<v Speaker 4>watch like at say Gracie's age.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually she didn't let us watch it, just watched it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. Actually, Luke used to hide underneath her chair. She

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<v Speaker 4>would genuinely think we've gone to bed, and Luke would

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<v Speaker 4>push the envelope a little bit more hide underneath her chair.

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<v Speaker 4>So she's sitting on this chair, his head is underneath

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<v Speaker 4>the chair where her legs are watching.

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<v Speaker 1>The semi show, whereas I would just sort of be

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<v Speaker 1>like watching around the corner. I kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I've told this story previously, but I do remember being

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<v Speaker 2>on a plane and my kids sitting next to me,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was watching what Jennifer Lopez is it like

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<v Speaker 2>Hustlers or something like that where she's a stripper. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm watching and there's like some quite you know,

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<v Speaker 2>adult scenes in there, and I noticed that Holly is

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<v Speaker 2>like she's got some sort of cartoon on or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>This is years ago, and she's watching my screen, but

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<v Speaker 2>my screen's right next to her. I'm like, what are

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<v Speaker 2>you doing that situation? When you're on a plane, you

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<v Speaker 2>can't stop them from seeing. I've got the bloody safety

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<v Speaker 2>card up, like holding it against this greens as you

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<v Speaker 2>can't see.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh. I love that though, so inventive. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I would not have thought of that, would be like,

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<v Speaker 1>look away, that's.

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<v Speaker 2>The safety No one's ever actually looked at the safety

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<v Speaker 2>path of the safety card. It's just used to screen

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<v Speaker 2>your kids from watching inappropriate stuff on the TV.

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<v Speaker 1>Honestly, I can't stand those safety cards. I do not

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<v Speaker 1>touch them.

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<v Speaker 4>They've been in that seat pocket for so long that

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, no, no, no one's cleaning na no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 4>one's wiping that down.

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<v Speaker 2>You probably know this because you're hosty. The dirtiest thing

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<v Speaker 2>on the plane, isn't it the tray table where.

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<v Speaker 3>You put food.

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<v Speaker 4>Also the air vents of the recycled air they're like

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<v Speaker 4>one of the dirtiest places on an aircraft, and obviously

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<v Speaker 4>of the bathroom. So flying long distance and you think

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my gosh, I'm just going to take myself into

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<v Speaker 4>that bathroom and reach my high club. Think again, think again,

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<v Speaker 4>and think about all those things that those bathrooms.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, I think so. I can't think of

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<v Speaker 2>anything worse than joining in my hard club. I'm perfectly

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<v Speaker 2>fine without Ernie.

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<v Speaker 4>Do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Katie's in there, Hang on, I just wipe it all

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<v Speaker 1>down a second.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't even barely fit in there to go to

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<v Speaker 3>the toilet alone, do anything else,