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Speaker 2: Welcome back to another episode of Am I A Bad Mom?
Speaker 3: Podcast?
Speaker 2: We constantly asked the same question, and actually I was
Speaker 2: having a conversation with someone the other day about alcohol
Speaker 2: in mums. I won't get into the darkness of it,
Speaker 2: but how there's an unhealthy relationship with alcohol in.
Speaker 3: A lot of mums.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I was like, I can so relate, Like
Speaker 2: you can so relate.
Speaker 4: Do you think it's more secretive with mums than it
Speaker 4: is with dads? Like dads is just like they sit
Speaker 4: there and they just have a beer and it's just
Speaker 4: what they do. And with mum, it's like I might
Speaker 4: have a wine a bit earlier before people come home,
Speaker 4: so then you know, you don't get that distinct lab
Speaker 4: that goes with it of like, oh, sorry, you just
Speaker 4: had a wine at five and now you're having another
Speaker 4: wine whilst you're cooking dinner. And I'm like saying it
Speaker 4: because it is a thing like I've questioned myself a
Speaker 4: few times, which we've talked about, where you go do
Speaker 4: you really Yeah.
Speaker 2: There's definitely a shame around it. And I also think
Speaker 2: it's kind of a because being a mum is so hard.
Speaker 3: It's almost like it's.
Speaker 2: The kind of the reward of going, Oh my god,
Speaker 2: like such a busy day.
Speaker 3: There was so much going on. I managed to get
Speaker 3: them to.
Speaker 2: You know, football or dance or whatever it is. We
Speaker 2: got home, we did dinner, We've done lunch.
Speaker 3: Boxes and blah blah blah, bah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 3: You're thinking of a million things.
Speaker 1: It's that.
Speaker 3: Now I'm gonna have a wine. Now I'm gonna relax.
Speaker 3: Kids are in bed. It's kind of my time.
Speaker 2: We laugh about it too, like even on our logo,
Speaker 2: We've got mom with a.
Speaker 3: Glass of wine.
Speaker 2: It's like, and actually at it now the bottle was
Speaker 2: nearly empty. So it's that whole when's too early to
Speaker 2: have a wine?
Speaker 3: Like laugh about it. But yeah, I was actually having
Speaker 3: a serious conversation.
Speaker 4: I was like, it's having a real serious conversation with someone,
Speaker 4: or just with yourself.
Speaker 3: I was having a conversation with someone, genuinely.
Speaker 4: I have conversations with myself, Like I have moments where
Speaker 4: I'm like I try and ask myself the question, why
Speaker 4: are you having this? Why are you choosing to have
Speaker 4: a cider instead of a soda water?
Speaker 1: Why?
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, you know, it's more fun but yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's where I'm going to leave that one.
Speaker 3: The amount of times my kids have gone, why are
Speaker 3: you drinking wine? I'm like because of you falls.
Speaker 4: Am I a bad mom for creating bad habits?
Speaker 1: I don't know. So I don't know where I stand
Speaker 1: or land with this one. Katie. Currently Channel nine.
Speaker 4: Has a TV show on corn Maths.
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm oh, I feel like.
Speaker 4: I'm like, literally, you know, at a meeting where you
Speaker 4: own your bad behavior.
Speaker 1: That's where I.
Speaker 2: Am funny because you love maths like you've loved maths
Speaker 2: for years always. Your husband was recently on I'm a Celebrity.
Speaker 1: Get Me out of Here, really different channels.
Speaker 2: You had a bit of a battle when Maths started
Speaker 2: showing at the same time on the opposite channel. It's like, well,
Speaker 2: I should really watch my husband, but I actually really
Speaker 2: like Maths.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 4: So to give you a really clear view, I don't
Speaker 4: watch any other TV for the entire year. I barely
Speaker 4: sit down. I know, it's really hard to believe that
Speaker 4: I don't sit down to watch TV. And if I
Speaker 4: watch a Netflix series, it's usually like an eight part
Speaker 4: series that's like got me. But then I have to
Speaker 4: binge the whole thing, and then I'm down. I don't
Speaker 4: need to kind of thing like I'm genuinely. I train early,
Speaker 4: I go to bed early, I work early, so TV
Speaker 4: is not my go.
Speaker 2: To right Xactually quite funny that you love math because
Speaker 2: you're not that kind of trashy TV. So the person
Speaker 2: I'm that person, I love kardask I've never watched a
Speaker 2: favorite episode of Kardashians in my life to this day.
Speaker 2: I love that trashy I watched Real Housewives of Beverly
Speaker 2: Hills like I.
Speaker 3: Love that trashy shit.
Speaker 2: I don't watch like heaps a bit like I've got
Speaker 2: no I don't money.
Speaker 4: Of those, but I don't have any, which is why
Speaker 4: I get so much shit around this.
Speaker 1: Right. So, in my house, if my mum.
Speaker 4: Chooses to call in and stay the night, what are
Speaker 4: you watching this ship for? Can we have a little
Speaker 4: bit less please, I'm trying to watch TV show, so
Speaker 4: going now into creating bad habits for children? Yes, mum
Speaker 4: called over, Mom stayed the night. We've eaten dinner, and
Speaker 4: the girls and I watched Maths from somebody?
Speaker 1: Why am I going quiet? Seven thirty to eight?
Speaker 4: And then they go to bed and then I'll watch
Speaker 4: the end of it kind of thing, but they'll do
Speaker 4: reading and do their usual thing and then eight thirties bedtimes.
Speaker 4: That's how our household runs, obviously, not maths every night.
Speaker 4: That's genuinely how it all runs.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 4: Mum being there, she was like, what is this shit?
Speaker 4: Why are you letting them watch this?
Speaker 1: Rachel?
Speaker 4: Oh, this is not even real life. This is not
Speaker 4: real TV. And I was like, I know they know, like,
Speaker 4: well they don't know, but I'm trying to tell them
Speaker 4: that it's not. But it's like one of those things
Speaker 4: Katie that I go, I don't ever watch anything else.
Speaker 4: And yes, it is trashy TV, and no, it is
Speaker 4: absolutely by far not honest or healthy relationships coming out
Speaker 4: of this right and the way that they behave on there.
Speaker 1: Yes we know how it works.
Speaker 4: There's structured people behind it making a lot of shit unfold,
Speaker 4: and then our own behavior within those certain situations.
Speaker 1: Reality TV is.
Speaker 4: Really hard, yeah, really hard, Like the background of it
Speaker 4: is tough and brutal, yet people continue to do it.
Speaker 4: So then we choose to watch it, and then I
Speaker 4: let my kids watch it, but then my mum comes
Speaker 4: in absolutely ridicules me for it. You are teaching them
Speaker 4: bad habits. Love you, Nanity, and then I feel bad
Speaker 4: for it, but I don't stop doing it.
Speaker 3: My kids watch. This is worse.
Speaker 1: So I'm putting it to you to go watch your
Speaker 1: kids watch.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is potentially fucking up their whole reality of
Speaker 4: what life is actually about.
Speaker 2: They watch Love Island and they are obsessed with it
Speaker 2: to the point where they act out the people and
Speaker 2: they go, Hi, I'm twenty two and I'm from Essex.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2: And then they said to me one day, Amelia goes, Mum,
Speaker 2: when i'm.
Speaker 3: Older, I'm going to go on Love Island.
Speaker 1: You're not.
Speaker 2: No, You're fucking not still watching that shit, and she's joking.
Speaker 2: But they love it. They love Love Islands, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: I don't watch it with them because you know, they're
Speaker 2: teenagers and that doesn't happen now. But but I do
Speaker 2: hear the stories and see little snippets of the people
Speaker 2: that are.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, probably don't put that as your.
Speaker 1: You know, tagline, your goal, your dreams. Don't aspire to
Speaker 1: be on it. And we you know what.
Speaker 4: Weirdly enough, ten and twelve the girls my girls, and
Speaker 4: I'm having those conversations with them going this is absolutely
Speaker 4: not real life, just FYI, and it is not how
Speaker 4: you're going to generate or look for love in another Okay, just.
Speaker 1: Letting you know.
Speaker 4: If you come to me and tell me you're on MATHS,
Speaker 4: I will not support it. We're having a gig or rat. Obviously,
Speaker 4: also need to put in a disclaimer that when they
Speaker 4: do the Intimacy Week in Maths, the kids don't watch.
Speaker 1: That's not for them.
Speaker 4: They are allowed to watch the dinner parties and they're like,
Speaker 4: you know all that stuff, but the Intimacy Week, it's
Speaker 4: a no go.
Speaker 1: We don't watch that. We have a laugh about it,
Speaker 1: watch it for half an hour a night.
Speaker 4: But what did you watch as a kid that your
Speaker 4: parents let you watch that you reckon really fucked up
Speaker 4: your view on things?
Speaker 1: If there was any.
Speaker 2: Silence of the Lambs, Yeah, I watched Silence of the Lambs.
Speaker 2: I recognize about ten.
Speaker 4: I think I was Gracie's age, and we went to
Speaker 4: a day where we went and did videos at a
Speaker 4: friend's house and she put on that what's the other one?
Speaker 4: That Stephen King with the clown clown come up out
Speaker 4: of the thing in the drain was that the clowns
Speaker 4: it maybe I don't know the one whatever that came
Speaker 4: up from the drain on the ground, and would like
Speaker 4: I genuinely will not still walk next to a great
Speaker 4: like that on a road.
Speaker 3: Weird sound comes out.
Speaker 4: But in terms of like my mum just gonna throw
Speaker 4: down a d under the bus because she obviously this
Speaker 4: is where this topic has come from. She let us
Speaker 4: watch like at say Gracie's age.
Speaker 1: Actually she didn't let us watch it, just watched it.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Actually, Luke used to hide underneath her chair. She
Speaker 4: would genuinely think we've gone to bed, and Luke would
Speaker 4: push the envelope a little bit more hide underneath her chair.
Speaker 4: So she's sitting on this chair, his head is underneath
Speaker 4: the chair where her legs are watching.
Speaker 1: The semi show, whereas I would just sort of be
Speaker 1: like watching around the corner. I kind of thing.
Speaker 2: I've told this story previously, but I do remember being
Speaker 2: on a plane and my kids sitting next to me,
Speaker 2: and I was watching what Jennifer Lopez is it like
Speaker 2: Hustlers or something like that where she's a stripper. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And I'm watching and there's like some quite you know,
Speaker 2: adult scenes in there, and I noticed that Holly is
Speaker 2: like she's got some sort of cartoon on or whatever.
Speaker 2: This is years ago, and she's watching my screen, but
Speaker 2: my screen's right next to her. I'm like, what are
Speaker 2: you doing that situation? When you're on a plane, you
Speaker 2: can't stop them from seeing. I've got the bloody safety
Speaker 2: card up, like holding it against this greens as you
Speaker 2: can't see.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. I love that though, so inventive. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would not have thought of that, would be like,
Speaker 1: look away, that's.
Speaker 2: The safety No one's ever actually looked at the safety
Speaker 2: path of the safety card. It's just used to screen
Speaker 2: your kids from watching inappropriate stuff on the TV.
Speaker 1: Honestly, I can't stand those safety cards. I do not
Speaker 1: touch them.
Speaker 4: They've been in that seat pocket for so long that
Speaker 4: I'm like, no, no, no one's cleaning na no, no, no,
Speaker 4: one's wiping that down.
Speaker 2: You probably know this because you're hosty. The dirtiest thing
Speaker 2: on the plane, isn't it the tray table where.
Speaker 3: You put food.
Speaker 4: Also the air vents of the recycled air they're like
Speaker 4: one of the dirtiest places on an aircraft, and obviously
Speaker 4: of the bathroom. So flying long distance and you think
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, I'm just going to take myself into
Speaker 4: that bathroom and reach my high club. Think again, think again,
Speaker 4: and think about all those things that those bathrooms.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I think so. I can't think of
Speaker 2: anything worse than joining in my hard club. I'm perfectly
Speaker 2: fine without Ernie.
Speaker 4: Do that.
Speaker 1: Katie's in there, Hang on, I just wipe it all
Speaker 1: down a second.
Speaker 3: I can't even barely fit in there to go to
Speaker 3: the toilet alone, do anything else,