1 00:00:05,921 --> 00:00:07,281 Speaker 1: Apodchey Production. 2 00:00:10,921 --> 00:00:13,921 Speaker 2: I'm Mickey Fisher and welcome to the Village Crazy Lady. 3 00:00:14,321 --> 00:00:17,441 Speaker 2: People are talking to me and they are not physically 4 00:00:17,481 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 2: in this room, so just strap in for that. Can't 5 00:00:21,201 --> 00:00:23,921 Speaker 2: call me crazy, so I said it first. Whoever's trying 6 00:00:23,921 --> 00:00:26,121 Speaker 2: to come through, whatever messages need to come through, like, 7 00:00:26,241 --> 00:00:29,961 Speaker 2: just bring it on. Let's do it. Crazy Crazy Crazy 8 00:00:30,241 --> 00:00:36,521 Speaker 2: the Village Crazy Lay Podcast. Hello, gorgeous legends, and welcome 9 00:00:36,561 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 2: to another episode of the Village Crazy Lady Today. I 10 00:00:41,001 --> 00:00:45,281 Speaker 2: definitely have another Village Crazy Lady with me. Jessica Leen 11 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:49,001 Speaker 2: is a very popular medium. She has her own podcast 12 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 2: as well, called Talk Spirit to Me. She is the 13 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:56,721 Speaker 2: Queen of the Lime, which probably makes no fucking sense 14 00:00:56,761 --> 00:00:59,481 Speaker 2: to you right now, but we'll get into it. Jess 15 00:00:59,561 --> 00:01:02,041 Speaker 2: I'm so excited to have you on. I'm so excited 16 00:01:02,041 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 2: to have another medium on. I am so excited to 17 00:01:04,601 --> 00:01:07,161 Speaker 2: be here, and I mean I can't wait to hear 18 00:01:07,481 --> 00:01:09,721 Speaker 2: all about the Lime of it all. I mean, like 19 00:01:09,761 --> 00:01:13,161 Speaker 2: it's so interesting because I've even heard other people talking 20 00:01:13,161 --> 00:01:15,961 Speaker 2: about it and I'm like, okay, this is like literally 21 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 2: since we tried to tee up this chat and I'm like, okay, 22 00:01:18,961 --> 00:01:23,921 Speaker 2: I'm really looking forward to understanding what this lime is. 23 00:01:24,441 --> 00:01:27,481 Speaker 2: And I'm also really looking forward to I sort of 24 00:01:27,521 --> 00:01:30,121 Speaker 2: said to you before this, like have a conversation sort 25 00:01:30,161 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 2: of medium to medium, like we were even saying we're 26 00:01:32,881 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 2: really different. You love doing one on ones and working 27 00:01:36,521 --> 00:01:40,001 Speaker 2: one on one with people, whereas like I just really struggle, 28 00:01:40,321 --> 00:01:43,601 Speaker 2: not struggle, but I get really zapped working one on one, 29 00:01:43,601 --> 00:01:45,881 Speaker 2: and I love working in like groups and on a 30 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:50,561 Speaker 2: collective sort of level. So it's just so interesting, like 31 00:01:51,081 --> 00:01:53,761 Speaker 2: just howeveryone works so differently we do. 32 00:01:54,121 --> 00:01:56,641 Speaker 3: We are all so different, and it's so weird because 33 00:01:56,721 --> 00:01:58,841 Speaker 3: in the last week i've been talking about this, I've 34 00:01:58,841 --> 00:02:00,001 Speaker 3: been starting to think. 35 00:02:00,121 --> 00:02:01,521 Speaker 1: You know what, I don't know if I'm going to 36 00:02:01,561 --> 00:02:04,081 Speaker 1: do my groups anymore. I'm just not sure it's for me. 37 00:02:04,441 --> 00:02:06,401 Speaker 3: And then to talk to you today and you're like, 38 00:02:06,681 --> 00:02:08,881 Speaker 3: that's my jam and that's what I love to do. 39 00:02:09,001 --> 00:02:11,441 Speaker 3: I'm like, we're all kind of figuring out what works 40 00:02:11,481 --> 00:02:11,881 Speaker 3: for us. 41 00:02:11,961 --> 00:02:14,441 Speaker 1: So it's a time of like clarity. 42 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:16,681 Speaker 2: I feel, yes, I love that, and we're kind of 43 00:02:16,721 --> 00:02:18,761 Speaker 2: like the more that we slip into sort of like 44 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:21,081 Speaker 2: what feels really good for us, it just makes space 45 00:02:21,161 --> 00:02:23,681 Speaker 2: for other people to sort of thrive where they thrive 46 00:02:23,721 --> 00:02:24,441 Speaker 2: as well. 47 00:02:24,761 --> 00:02:27,921 Speaker 3: Yes, exactly, And there's no one person. There's like a 48 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:31,001 Speaker 3: person for everyone. So you know, if you want a 49 00:02:31,041 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 3: group collective experience, and clearly they need to come your 50 00:02:34,201 --> 00:02:36,481 Speaker 3: wave and if they want more one on one then 51 00:02:36,761 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 3: that's that's my thing. 52 00:02:37,921 --> 00:02:40,641 Speaker 2: That is like I thrive, yes, not for me. Don't 53 00:02:40,641 --> 00:02:45,601 Speaker 2: come to me. I say that with love bluff. 54 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:46,441 Speaker 1: You don't come. 55 00:02:48,721 --> 00:02:50,201 Speaker 2: Come to a class. 56 00:02:50,921 --> 00:02:51,321 Speaker 1: Okay. 57 00:02:51,841 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 2: Firstly I want to hear your story, like when did 58 00:02:55,001 --> 00:02:58,001 Speaker 2: you start realizing that you could see like dead people 59 00:02:58,001 --> 00:03:01,161 Speaker 2: and start talking to them? How does your mediumship work 60 00:03:01,281 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 2: as well? Because they know you know it's different for everyone. 61 00:03:04,281 --> 00:03:08,321 Speaker 3: Yes, So I've always been very intuitive, like super switched on. 62 00:03:08,721 --> 00:03:09,481 Speaker 1: Even as a kid. 63 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:11,681 Speaker 3: I just picked up on things and I just knew stuff, 64 00:03:11,721 --> 00:03:12,921 Speaker 3: and I didn't know how I knew it. 65 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:13,881 Speaker 1: I just sort of did. 66 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:16,081 Speaker 3: But it wasn't until my nana passed away when I 67 00:03:16,121 --> 00:03:20,041 Speaker 3: was twelve that I really started to wonder, like what 68 00:03:20,161 --> 00:03:21,041 Speaker 3: else is out there? 69 00:03:21,081 --> 00:03:23,761 Speaker 1: Like this just can't be it, she can't be just gone. 70 00:03:24,001 --> 00:03:27,001 Speaker 1: So I started to actually had I lived with. 71 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:30,241 Speaker 3: My granddad really from the time that she passed because 72 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 3: I kept him company and we were kind of two 73 00:03:31,881 --> 00:03:34,601 Speaker 3: peas in upon us together, and her ashes were there, 74 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:37,561 Speaker 3: so she was cremated in like a wooden box, and 75 00:03:37,601 --> 00:03:39,241 Speaker 3: I used to just sit there with her ashes and 76 00:03:39,281 --> 00:03:40,921 Speaker 3: just talk to her and just hope that she could 77 00:03:40,961 --> 00:03:44,441 Speaker 3: hear me. And the box of ashes actually had a 78 00:03:44,481 --> 00:03:46,281 Speaker 3: really beautiful sweet wooden. 79 00:03:45,961 --> 00:03:48,081 Speaker 1: Smell, and every time I was near it, I could 80 00:03:48,121 --> 00:03:49,761 Speaker 1: smell it, and then it started. 81 00:03:49,481 --> 00:03:51,561 Speaker 3: To fill the room. Like every time I would sit 82 00:03:51,601 --> 00:03:53,041 Speaker 3: with it, I'd be like, this is weird. Now I 83 00:03:53,041 --> 00:03:54,761 Speaker 3: can smell it in the whole room, and then it 84 00:03:54,801 --> 00:03:57,241 Speaker 3: would expand sometimes and I could smell it rout down 85 00:03:57,281 --> 00:04:00,121 Speaker 3: the hallway as well, and I was like, this cannot 86 00:04:00,161 --> 00:04:03,161 Speaker 3: be a thing, Like maybe she's trying to show me 87 00:04:03,281 --> 00:04:06,281 Speaker 3: she's here through this smell. And I ended up smelling 88 00:04:06,321 --> 00:04:09,601 Speaker 3: it like when I was in the supermarket, not even 89 00:04:09,681 --> 00:04:12,241 Speaker 3: near that. So she sort of started small and then 90 00:04:12,281 --> 00:04:15,921 Speaker 3: started to connect with me through smell outside of that environment. 91 00:04:16,441 --> 00:04:18,001 Speaker 1: So this is when I really started a clue on. 92 00:04:18,081 --> 00:04:20,601 Speaker 3: I'm like, there's something going on here, like that's just 93 00:04:20,641 --> 00:04:24,641 Speaker 3: not what everyone experiences. So I started to sort of explore, 94 00:04:24,921 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 3: like a few years later, meditation and tapping in that way, 95 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:30,561 Speaker 3: and I started doing some classes when I was like 96 00:04:30,721 --> 00:04:34,041 Speaker 3: sixteen seventeen, and I just go to the local shop 97 00:04:34,121 --> 00:04:36,721 Speaker 3: in like Chelsea, and I'd sit there with these women 98 00:04:36,801 --> 00:04:39,561 Speaker 3: and we'd meditate and it was super cool, Like to 99 00:04:39,561 --> 00:04:41,561 Speaker 3: be around people who kind of believed what you did. 100 00:04:41,721 --> 00:04:42,761 Speaker 1: It's really nice. 101 00:04:43,081 --> 00:04:45,801 Speaker 3: And I saw every psychic medium I could find, like 102 00:04:45,841 --> 00:04:48,281 Speaker 3: in my twenties. I just loved it so much. I 103 00:04:48,361 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 3: go to all the mind, body, spirit festivals and I'd 104 00:04:51,121 --> 00:04:52,201 Speaker 3: just be one of those like. 105 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:55,201 Speaker 1: Psychic medium groupies. I was just so into it. 106 00:04:55,681 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 3: And one day I saw this lady. She was a medium, 107 00:04:58,801 --> 00:05:00,601 Speaker 3: and she said, yes, I don't know why you're here. 108 00:05:01,201 --> 00:05:02,841 Speaker 3: I'm like, what do you mean? She goes, why are 109 00:05:02,841 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 3: you here? You should be sitting on this side of 110 00:05:04,801 --> 00:05:07,201 Speaker 3: the like you should be the one telling me what's 111 00:05:07,241 --> 00:05:09,041 Speaker 3: going on. You should turn this on and off like 112 00:05:09,081 --> 00:05:11,681 Speaker 3: a light switch. And I was like what. I'm like, 113 00:05:11,801 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 3: I wish, like I really wish I could, but I 114 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 3: don't really know how. And I kind of left it 115 00:05:16,681 --> 00:05:18,001 Speaker 3: for a bit and I was like, oh, I'll just 116 00:05:18,001 --> 00:05:20,241 Speaker 3: see what happens. And I ended up seeing another medium 117 00:05:20,241 --> 00:05:22,641 Speaker 3: and then she was a teacher. She taught it, and 118 00:05:22,681 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 3: she's like, come along to one of my classes. 119 00:05:25,281 --> 00:05:28,001 Speaker 1: So I dragged my friend on, like we're going. I'm like, 120 00:05:28,041 --> 00:05:30,041 Speaker 1: I don't know what we're going to experience when you're 121 00:05:30,081 --> 00:05:34,041 Speaker 1: going to run into the dead today dead. She's like, cool, 122 00:05:34,121 --> 00:05:34,961 Speaker 1: all right, So. 123 00:05:34,841 --> 00:05:37,281 Speaker 3: She showed up with me, and within ten minutes we 124 00:05:37,401 --> 00:05:40,121 Speaker 3: got paired up with total strangers and had to start 125 00:05:40,201 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 3: channeling the other side. And I remember I was sitting 126 00:05:43,241 --> 00:05:46,761 Speaker 3: with this lady and I instantly started to feel this 127 00:05:46,841 --> 00:05:49,761 Speaker 3: man come through and I saw this man that I 128 00:05:49,841 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 3: knew actually, and I was like, why am I seeing 129 00:05:52,081 --> 00:05:54,281 Speaker 3: a man that I know that's past when I meant 130 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,921 Speaker 3: to be connecting with this woman's dad. And it ended 131 00:05:57,001 --> 00:06:00,361 Speaker 3: up being part of the way that spirit use symbolism 132 00:06:00,401 --> 00:06:02,041 Speaker 3: with me. It is to show me somebody that I 133 00:06:02,121 --> 00:06:04,481 Speaker 3: know that's passed the same way. So that was my 134 00:06:04,521 --> 00:06:08,241 Speaker 3: first dig experience with them connecting my memories in. 135 00:06:08,281 --> 00:06:10,561 Speaker 1: Order to show me the information I need to feel. 136 00:06:10,601 --> 00:06:12,681 Speaker 3: And that was in the first like five minutes of 137 00:06:12,761 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 3: my first connection. So it was like floodgates open and 138 00:06:15,921 --> 00:06:19,161 Speaker 3: everything just came to fruition and everything started happening, and 139 00:06:19,281 --> 00:06:21,241 Speaker 3: I was super excited because I wanted to do this 140 00:06:21,281 --> 00:06:23,561 Speaker 3: for so long. And anyway, afterwards, I said to my friend. 141 00:06:23,601 --> 00:06:25,401 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my god, what happened for you? Did 142 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:26,801 Speaker 3: you feel anything. 143 00:06:26,561 --> 00:06:29,241 Speaker 1: Like what was going on? And she's like, Jess, all 144 00:06:29,281 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: I saw was colors. I was I saw nothing but colors. 145 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:34,881 Speaker 1: And she's like, I feel so stupid. I'm like no, 146 00:06:35,041 --> 00:06:37,601 Speaker 1: I'm like, you're more of a healer. I feel like 147 00:06:37,721 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: you have got that healing vibe where you see auras 148 00:06:40,121 --> 00:06:41,561 Speaker 1: and you move energy and all that. 149 00:06:41,641 --> 00:06:43,681 Speaker 3: I'm like, maybe you're not a medium, but this was 150 00:06:43,721 --> 00:06:46,401 Speaker 3: opening your eyes to that, so you knew where to go. 151 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:48,761 Speaker 1: And she hasn't quite done anything with it yet, but 152 00:06:48,801 --> 00:06:50,721 Speaker 1: I remember laughing so hard with her. She's like, what 153 00:06:50,761 --> 00:06:51,801 Speaker 1: the hell have you brought me to? 154 00:06:51,921 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 2: I saw shit? All yeah. Yeah, You're like, thank you, 155 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:55,641 Speaker 2: She's like. 156 00:06:55,601 --> 00:06:56,481 Speaker 1: Thanks a lot, girl. 157 00:06:57,081 --> 00:06:59,721 Speaker 3: No. But from there I ended up doing more classes 158 00:06:59,761 --> 00:07:02,121 Speaker 3: with this lady and she mentored me for years, and 159 00:07:02,161 --> 00:07:04,721 Speaker 3: I did free readings for anyone who would let me, 160 00:07:05,201 --> 00:07:07,161 Speaker 3: and then I got the courage to open up my 161 00:07:07,241 --> 00:07:09,441 Speaker 3: business and fast forward, here we are. 162 00:07:10,201 --> 00:07:10,801 Speaker 1: I love that. 163 00:07:10,961 --> 00:07:14,761 Speaker 2: I love hearing the stories of how people receive information 164 00:07:15,441 --> 00:07:18,721 Speaker 2: because I feel like there's this just I don't know, 165 00:07:18,801 --> 00:07:24,161 Speaker 2: this misconception that every single medium literally sees dead people 166 00:07:24,321 --> 00:07:28,281 Speaker 2: as though they are like you're fucking like in flesh grammar, 167 00:07:28,481 --> 00:07:30,561 Speaker 2: sitting at the end of your bed, like wanting to 168 00:07:30,561 --> 00:07:33,721 Speaker 2: have a cup of tea with you. I know, But 169 00:07:33,801 --> 00:07:36,481 Speaker 2: it's really it's not that. It's like I always explain 170 00:07:36,521 --> 00:07:39,761 Speaker 2: it to people, like it's so obvious, but it's not obvious. 171 00:07:41,241 --> 00:07:44,121 Speaker 1: I agree. It's not like a person's just sitting there 172 00:07:44,161 --> 00:07:46,041 Speaker 1: staring at you. I've actually only had. 173 00:07:46,161 --> 00:07:49,521 Speaker 3: One experience where it's been a little bit like that, 174 00:07:49,921 --> 00:07:51,921 Speaker 3: and it was when it was when I went for 175 00:07:51,961 --> 00:07:55,761 Speaker 3: a massage. So whenever I'm in a meditative state or 176 00:07:55,761 --> 00:07:58,681 Speaker 3: i'm really relaxed spirit think that it's on. So I 177 00:07:58,721 --> 00:08:02,681 Speaker 3: was like laying there in Dodaspa having my relaxation massage, 178 00:08:02,721 --> 00:08:04,881 Speaker 3: and all of a sudden I saw this woman standing 179 00:08:05,041 --> 00:08:06,841 Speaker 3: at the end of the bed and I was like, 180 00:08:07,001 --> 00:08:08,241 Speaker 3: you've got to be kidding me. 181 00:08:08,601 --> 00:08:10,921 Speaker 1: I'm like, no, I'm not open for business. 182 00:08:11,001 --> 00:08:12,161 Speaker 2: And she's like one hundred percent. 183 00:08:12,241 --> 00:08:14,241 Speaker 3: Oh, She's like, that's my granddaughter. You have to tell 184 00:08:14,241 --> 00:08:16,521 Speaker 3: her that I'm here. And I'm like I'll tell her 185 00:08:16,561 --> 00:08:19,281 Speaker 3: when i'm done, right, So you just stay there and 186 00:08:19,321 --> 00:08:20,721 Speaker 3: you just not be seen. 187 00:08:20,841 --> 00:08:22,161 Speaker 1: And she stood there the whole time. 188 00:08:22,241 --> 00:08:25,481 Speaker 3: I was like, oh my god, see, only time I've 189 00:08:25,521 --> 00:08:28,761 Speaker 3: seen someone that actually I could see the figure. The 190 00:08:28,801 --> 00:08:31,001 Speaker 3: rest of the time, it's always in my mind, like 191 00:08:31,081 --> 00:08:32,921 Speaker 3: you sort of see things in your mind, but this 192 00:08:33,121 --> 00:08:34,601 Speaker 3: was like outside of my body. 193 00:08:34,601 --> 00:08:36,481 Speaker 1: She's a super strong lady that spirit. 194 00:08:37,121 --> 00:08:39,801 Speaker 2: Yes, okay, I love this so much. And it's so 195 00:08:40,201 --> 00:08:42,841 Speaker 2: because I remember when I first was like going through 196 00:08:42,841 --> 00:08:44,681 Speaker 2: my whole you know, when I was a kid, I 197 00:08:44,721 --> 00:08:47,921 Speaker 2: could see things and same thing as you, Like, I 198 00:08:48,001 --> 00:08:50,481 Speaker 2: just knew certain things about people and knew certain things 199 00:08:50,521 --> 00:08:53,401 Speaker 2: about everything, and I just felt like I saw things 200 00:08:53,481 --> 00:08:57,441 Speaker 2: that other people didn't see and that It wasn't until 201 00:08:57,481 --> 00:09:00,321 Speaker 2: I was a lot older when I started to and 202 00:09:00,361 --> 00:09:03,561 Speaker 2: I was the same. I was just very interested in spirituality. 203 00:09:03,641 --> 00:09:06,401 Speaker 2: I just was like I loved to explore it. And 204 00:09:06,401 --> 00:09:08,601 Speaker 2: I'd always go to mediums and they'd say the same 205 00:09:08,721 --> 00:09:12,481 Speaker 2: fucking thing that always go why are you here? Yes? Mate, 206 00:09:12,521 --> 00:09:14,441 Speaker 2: why do you think I'm here? Read my future? Tell 207 00:09:14,481 --> 00:09:17,201 Speaker 2: me what's going on? Like connect to the dead, like 208 00:09:17,481 --> 00:09:19,641 Speaker 2: you you know why I'm here. I've paid your money, 209 00:09:19,841 --> 00:09:21,441 Speaker 2: And they're like they would say the same thing. You 210 00:09:21,481 --> 00:09:23,001 Speaker 2: can do this. You can see the same people I 211 00:09:23,001 --> 00:09:26,881 Speaker 2: can see and it wasn't. And I feel like so 212 00:09:26,881 --> 00:09:29,041 Speaker 2: so much of it is just that confirmation because it's 213 00:09:29,121 --> 00:09:32,281 Speaker 2: just such a lack of trust as well, because you're like, 214 00:09:32,441 --> 00:09:35,481 Speaker 2: we've spent so much of our life being told that 215 00:09:35,561 --> 00:09:38,441 Speaker 2: what we're experiencing isn't real and it's just your imagination, 216 00:09:38,601 --> 00:09:40,801 Speaker 2: and because it isn't just you know, a bless and 217 00:09:40,881 --> 00:09:44,241 Speaker 2: blood person sitting at the end of your bed going hey, hi, 218 00:09:44,361 --> 00:09:46,041 Speaker 2: oh I'm dead, by the way, that can we try 219 00:09:46,041 --> 00:09:48,561 Speaker 2: out I've got a message for you or whatever. It's 220 00:09:48,681 --> 00:09:51,401 Speaker 2: kind of like really hard to recognize that that's what 221 00:09:51,561 --> 00:09:51,841 Speaker 2: it is. 222 00:09:52,801 --> 00:09:55,801 Speaker 3: Yes, it's hard at the start, particularly when you're tapping 223 00:09:55,801 --> 00:09:59,081 Speaker 3: into this, to trust yourself. It's the biggest hurdle. It's 224 00:09:59,121 --> 00:10:01,641 Speaker 3: like every little piece of information, even to this day, 225 00:10:01,761 --> 00:10:04,201 Speaker 3: Like I did readings today and sometimes I sit there 226 00:10:04,201 --> 00:10:06,841 Speaker 3: and I'm like, God, please let that land. 227 00:10:07,321 --> 00:10:10,721 Speaker 1: I'm like, you never lose that. It's human. The fear 228 00:10:10,761 --> 00:10:14,641 Speaker 1: of being wrong is paralyzing heart. 229 00:10:14,681 --> 00:10:18,721 Speaker 2: Realizing the amount of times I'm like literally being with 230 00:10:18,761 --> 00:10:22,041 Speaker 2: someone and I'm like, their mom's dead. I can see her, 231 00:10:22,121 --> 00:10:24,241 Speaker 2: she's she wants to talk to them, But what if 232 00:10:24,241 --> 00:10:27,681 Speaker 2: she's alive. What if I'm like what if this isn't 233 00:10:27,761 --> 00:10:29,481 Speaker 2: right or whatever, and you're sitting there going, god, I 234 00:10:29,521 --> 00:10:32,801 Speaker 2: fucking hope if you if you are taking me on here, 235 00:10:33,281 --> 00:10:34,801 Speaker 2: I'm going to make your sob of it. And you're 236 00:10:34,881 --> 00:10:38,361 Speaker 2: like did your mom pass away? And they're like yes, 237 00:10:38,841 --> 00:10:43,001 Speaker 2: and I'm like, okay, one, thank god, but also sorry, 238 00:10:43,921 --> 00:10:45,881 Speaker 2: she's got a message. 239 00:10:47,361 --> 00:10:47,881 Speaker 1: I agree. 240 00:10:47,921 --> 00:10:50,121 Speaker 3: And sometimes I hear other mediums and we have to 241 00:10:50,161 --> 00:10:52,681 Speaker 3: be so careful the way we say things, because I've 242 00:10:52,681 --> 00:10:55,881 Speaker 3: heard people, like other mediums say when someone's like, yes, 243 00:10:55,961 --> 00:10:58,241 Speaker 3: my mom passed away and they provide the validation, the 244 00:10:58,321 --> 00:10:59,441 Speaker 3: medium goes okay, good. 245 00:10:59,841 --> 00:11:02,521 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're like all right, great, and they don't mean that. 246 00:11:02,641 --> 00:11:05,601 Speaker 3: What they mean is you validated the information, so it's good. 247 00:11:05,641 --> 00:11:07,441 Speaker 3: But it's made me really be aware of how I 248 00:11:07,481 --> 00:11:10,841 Speaker 3: say things. So now I'm like, I'm like okay, and 249 00:11:10,881 --> 00:11:13,121 Speaker 3: I'm like I'm so sorry to hear that, or sometimes 250 00:11:13,161 --> 00:11:14,881 Speaker 3: I won't say that, I'll be like all right. 251 00:11:14,761 --> 00:11:16,441 Speaker 1: Well, I feel like la la lah. 252 00:11:16,481 --> 00:11:18,721 Speaker 3: But sometimes you have to be so careful because it's 253 00:11:18,761 --> 00:11:19,601 Speaker 3: not great that there. 254 00:11:19,521 --> 00:11:22,921 Speaker 2: I'm dead no no, and I feel like you're so 255 00:11:23,681 --> 00:11:26,761 Speaker 2: you're so aware of like the human of it. But 256 00:11:26,841 --> 00:11:30,321 Speaker 2: when you're communicating with the dead so often you also 257 00:11:30,481 --> 00:11:34,801 Speaker 2: have this kind of like blurred I don't know reality 258 00:11:34,841 --> 00:11:37,001 Speaker 2: of it as well, not reality, but you just see 259 00:11:37,041 --> 00:11:37,801 Speaker 2: it a bit differently. 260 00:11:38,601 --> 00:11:41,001 Speaker 3: It's it's normal, Like every single day I'm talking to 261 00:11:41,041 --> 00:11:43,561 Speaker 3: dead people, I'm talking about grief and loss. It becomes 262 00:11:43,641 --> 00:11:48,121 Speaker 3: so normalized for us that it's not when someone says 263 00:11:48,201 --> 00:11:52,401 Speaker 3: or someone passed away, Like my instant reaction isn't the 264 00:11:52,441 --> 00:11:55,441 Speaker 3: shock of what it was when I didn't do this, 265 00:11:56,001 --> 00:11:58,161 Speaker 3: Like I would be really like, oh my god, and 266 00:11:58,241 --> 00:12:01,121 Speaker 3: I still feel terrible for people, Like don't get me wrong, 267 00:12:01,201 --> 00:12:04,161 Speaker 3: but you just sort of it's normalized. 268 00:12:04,361 --> 00:12:05,041 Speaker 1: It's really weird. 269 00:12:05,241 --> 00:12:07,241 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I feel like in a way you almost 270 00:12:07,401 --> 00:12:10,361 Speaker 2: just you really understand the grief and hurt of people 271 00:12:10,841 --> 00:12:13,481 Speaker 2: a lot because you can even like because you're communicating 272 00:12:13,521 --> 00:12:15,841 Speaker 2: with their loved ones as well, you understand that they 273 00:12:16,001 --> 00:12:18,561 Speaker 2: know what it's like for them, you know. But like 274 00:12:18,641 --> 00:12:20,281 Speaker 2: it's just like you see it in such a different, 275 00:12:20,321 --> 00:12:25,561 Speaker 2: beautiful kind of way. So one the nuggets of it all, 276 00:12:25,961 --> 00:12:30,401 Speaker 2: like just the little the little nuggets of information, like 277 00:12:30,441 --> 00:12:32,441 Speaker 2: as you said at the beginning, a lot of it 278 00:12:32,481 --> 00:12:34,761 Speaker 2: is one I'm so terrified that I'm going to give 279 00:12:34,801 --> 00:12:39,041 Speaker 2: someone that like what I'm hearing isn't correct. That's scary. 280 00:12:39,521 --> 00:12:42,321 Speaker 2: But also it's like I'm being shown all of these 281 00:12:42,841 --> 00:12:45,401 Speaker 2: different things and it's up to me to learn what 282 00:12:45,601 --> 00:12:48,121 Speaker 2: is and what isn't for me, Like as in like 283 00:12:48,641 --> 00:12:50,241 Speaker 2: I know it was the same for me. It's like 284 00:12:50,241 --> 00:12:52,241 Speaker 2: if I'm if I'm getting something from the left side, 285 00:12:52,281 --> 00:12:54,121 Speaker 2: it means this. If I'm getting it from the right side, 286 00:12:54,121 --> 00:12:56,241 Speaker 2: if it means it means this. If it looks like this, 287 00:12:56,361 --> 00:12:58,481 Speaker 2: it means such and such, and like same thing. I'd 288 00:12:58,521 --> 00:13:01,001 Speaker 2: get like a memory of a movie or something, and 289 00:13:01,001 --> 00:13:02,721 Speaker 2: it would be like, oh, okay, right, so it's a 290 00:13:02,721 --> 00:13:05,921 Speaker 2: similar situation to that. Or I'd feel something in my 291 00:13:05,961 --> 00:13:07,721 Speaker 2: body and I'd be like, why the fuck do I 292 00:13:07,721 --> 00:13:10,521 Speaker 2: feel like I can't breathe? Oh okay, they couldn't breathe. 293 00:13:10,521 --> 00:13:13,001 Speaker 2: They die that's how they died or whatever. You know. 294 00:13:13,161 --> 00:13:15,441 Speaker 2: And it takes a bit of time just really trying 295 00:13:15,441 --> 00:13:18,241 Speaker 2: to figure out what those clues are for you. 296 00:13:19,201 --> 00:13:22,001 Speaker 3: Yeah, it does, the symbology. It takes a while to 297 00:13:22,081 --> 00:13:24,521 Speaker 3: figure it out. And this is why if someone's getting 298 00:13:24,561 --> 00:13:26,921 Speaker 3: started in this area, it's so important to take the 299 00:13:26,921 --> 00:13:30,201 Speaker 3: time to practice, Yes, like practice like I did two. 300 00:13:30,041 --> 00:13:31,241 Speaker 1: Years of practice. 301 00:13:31,441 --> 00:13:33,961 Speaker 3: Anyone, I'm like, please just let me try, like let 302 00:13:33,961 --> 00:13:36,681 Speaker 3: me read for you, Like, don't pay anything. I just 303 00:13:36,721 --> 00:13:39,321 Speaker 3: want to practice with people and not knowing and getting 304 00:13:39,361 --> 00:13:41,521 Speaker 3: the validation because it builds to the trust that you 305 00:13:41,561 --> 00:13:45,041 Speaker 3: have within yourself and your confidence and your symbology and 306 00:13:45,041 --> 00:13:46,801 Speaker 3: your flow starts to go too. Like I don't know 307 00:13:46,841 --> 00:13:49,601 Speaker 3: about you, but when I first started, everything felt clunky. Yeah, 308 00:13:49,641 --> 00:13:51,361 Speaker 3: it was like you got a little piece of information, 309 00:13:51,441 --> 00:13:53,361 Speaker 3: then it stopped, and then you have to search again, 310 00:13:53,441 --> 00:13:55,321 Speaker 3: and then you have to search again. Whereas now it 311 00:13:55,361 --> 00:13:57,201 Speaker 3: probably feels how it does for me, where it kind 312 00:13:57,201 --> 00:13:59,121 Speaker 3: of just flows. You're onto the next thing, onto the 313 00:13:59,161 --> 00:14:01,121 Speaker 3: next thing, and then the person validates and you're thinking 314 00:14:01,161 --> 00:14:03,681 Speaker 3: about the next piece of information and it kind of 315 00:14:03,761 --> 00:14:05,881 Speaker 3: just goes, but takes time time to get there. 316 00:14:06,321 --> 00:14:08,001 Speaker 1: It's not an overnight thing. 317 00:14:08,241 --> 00:14:10,681 Speaker 2: No, one hundred percent. It definitely is a practice thing. 318 00:14:10,761 --> 00:14:13,801 Speaker 2: I spent years practicing too. I would actually like get 319 00:14:13,841 --> 00:14:16,761 Speaker 2: a bit drunk with my friend. When I was a 320 00:14:16,761 --> 00:14:20,601 Speaker 2: bit drunk, I felt confident and okay, yeah, I'd be 321 00:14:20,721 --> 00:14:24,201 Speaker 2: like guys, to be honest with you, I can actually 322 00:14:24,241 --> 00:14:27,321 Speaker 2: see dead people. I can talk to them and communicate 323 00:14:27,361 --> 00:14:29,601 Speaker 2: with them. And then they'd be like, oh my god, 324 00:14:29,601 --> 00:14:31,121 Speaker 2: that's so interesting, and I'd be like, oh, I can 325 00:14:31,161 --> 00:14:34,081 Speaker 2: see your timelines, like who wants a reading? And that 326 00:14:34,161 --> 00:14:36,841 Speaker 2: I'd be so good. They're like channeling their grandma or something, 327 00:14:36,881 --> 00:14:40,761 Speaker 2: and we're like fifteen Margarita's deep, Oh my god. Health. 328 00:14:41,201 --> 00:14:45,361 Speaker 3: Hey, whatever works to get you like in that confident space. 329 00:14:45,641 --> 00:14:49,481 Speaker 2: You know. Look, I'm not recommending that as like a 330 00:14:49,601 --> 00:14:51,161 Speaker 2: practice course. That was young. 331 00:14:53,721 --> 00:14:54,641 Speaker 1: We show up today. 332 00:14:55,601 --> 00:14:57,961 Speaker 2: Sure she is not how I do it now, but look, 333 00:14:58,441 --> 00:15:00,921 Speaker 2: you got to do whatever works. Tell us about the 334 00:15:00,961 --> 00:15:04,041 Speaker 2: line and how did you get there. Tell us the story, 335 00:15:04,121 --> 00:15:07,161 Speaker 2: the journey and how a lime can help us. 336 00:15:07,441 --> 00:15:10,521 Speaker 3: Okay, So this all started when I had a dark 337 00:15:10,681 --> 00:15:13,321 Speaker 3: entity that was attached to me. And the only reason 338 00:15:13,321 --> 00:15:16,921 Speaker 3: I knew that was because one morning I woke up, well, 339 00:15:16,961 --> 00:15:18,361 Speaker 3: I was kind of like half asleep, you know, on 340 00:15:18,401 --> 00:15:21,641 Speaker 3: your half my sleep half awake. It was like five 341 00:15:21,641 --> 00:15:23,721 Speaker 3: point thirty in the morning or something. Jade had already 342 00:15:23,761 --> 00:15:26,841 Speaker 3: gone to work, and I was like, oh, that's really 343 00:15:26,881 --> 00:15:28,681 Speaker 3: weird because I feel like she's like coming back into 344 00:15:28,681 --> 00:15:31,201 Speaker 3: the room because I felt this energy come in and 345 00:15:31,321 --> 00:15:33,081 Speaker 3: I was like, oh, maybe she feels shit, and she's 346 00:15:33,081 --> 00:15:35,801 Speaker 3: like going to stay home. So I felt like someone 347 00:15:35,841 --> 00:15:37,761 Speaker 3: like sit on the bed, and then I felt like 348 00:15:37,801 --> 00:15:40,321 Speaker 3: this breath on my neck, and then I felt like 349 00:15:40,401 --> 00:15:42,761 Speaker 3: this scratch down my back. 350 00:15:42,441 --> 00:15:45,401 Speaker 1: And I was like, I'm like, she doesn't do that. 351 00:15:45,481 --> 00:15:47,441 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my god, there's somewhere in my room 352 00:15:48,041 --> 00:15:49,001 Speaker 3: my worst nightmare. 353 00:15:49,401 --> 00:15:50,481 Speaker 1: What the hell am I going to do? 354 00:15:50,641 --> 00:15:52,601 Speaker 3: I was terrified, and I was like, I don't know 355 00:15:52,641 --> 00:15:54,081 Speaker 3: what I'm what am I gonna do? Am I going 356 00:15:54,121 --> 00:15:56,281 Speaker 3: to pretend I'm asleep? Am I going to like run 357 00:15:56,321 --> 00:15:57,001 Speaker 3: for the hills? 358 00:15:57,041 --> 00:15:57,721 Speaker 1: Like? I don't know? 359 00:15:58,001 --> 00:15:59,361 Speaker 3: And in that moment, I'm like, I have to get 360 00:15:59,401 --> 00:16:02,081 Speaker 3: out of here. So I went to grab the person's 361 00:16:02,161 --> 00:16:04,561 Speaker 3: arm because I could feel something right behind me, and 362 00:16:04,601 --> 00:16:07,161 Speaker 3: I turned and then there was nothing there, and I 363 00:16:07,241 --> 00:16:08,601 Speaker 3: was like, oh no. 364 00:16:08,721 --> 00:16:11,681 Speaker 1: I'm like, hell no, this is not happening. 365 00:16:12,121 --> 00:16:15,801 Speaker 3: That is like my absolute worst nightmare, like someone coming 366 00:16:15,841 --> 00:16:18,241 Speaker 3: into the room and you can't get out and there's 367 00:16:18,241 --> 00:16:21,761 Speaker 3: no one home. So it's almost like this entity got 368 00:16:21,761 --> 00:16:24,441 Speaker 3: into my brain and was playing out like one of 369 00:16:24,481 --> 00:16:27,721 Speaker 3: my greatest fears for me, like a TV movie. 370 00:16:28,001 --> 00:16:29,441 Speaker 1: I was like, Nah, this is not on. 371 00:16:29,601 --> 00:16:31,721 Speaker 3: So I did what any spiritual chick would do. I 372 00:16:31,761 --> 00:16:33,441 Speaker 3: was like woke up straight away. I'm like, all right, 373 00:16:33,441 --> 00:16:37,281 Speaker 3: I'm getting the sage the Palasanto, just chanting, doing anything 374 00:16:37,281 --> 00:16:39,281 Speaker 3: I could to get rid of this entity off me. 375 00:16:39,641 --> 00:16:41,521 Speaker 3: And I felt a bit better after I did that, 376 00:16:41,721 --> 00:16:43,801 Speaker 3: and I was but I rang my kinesiologist. I'm like, 377 00:16:43,801 --> 00:16:46,321 Speaker 3: all right, I'm not playing, like I need you to 378 00:16:46,561 --> 00:16:48,241 Speaker 3: get me off the table and see if you can 379 00:16:48,281 --> 00:16:50,241 Speaker 3: feel anything if I've got rid of them or not. 380 00:16:50,881 --> 00:16:54,201 Speaker 1: And she's like, cool, all right, come over. I laid down. 381 00:16:54,401 --> 00:16:56,921 Speaker 3: She tried a few different things, and then she ended 382 00:16:57,001 --> 00:16:59,121 Speaker 3: up doing something. She's like, I'm just going to try 383 00:16:59,121 --> 00:17:00,841 Speaker 3: this on your feet. I'm like, okay, you do you 384 00:17:01,401 --> 00:17:03,401 Speaker 3: and she's like, Jess, it's gone. And I was like, oh, 385 00:17:03,441 --> 00:17:04,721 Speaker 3: that's really weird because I was about to tell you 386 00:17:04,761 --> 00:17:07,640 Speaker 3: I feel really grounded now, like whatever you just did worked. 387 00:17:07,641 --> 00:17:08,641 Speaker 1: And I said what did you do? 388 00:17:08,761 --> 00:17:11,641 Speaker 3: And she goes, I put lime essential oil on your feet, 389 00:17:11,921 --> 00:17:14,921 Speaker 3: and I'm like, oh, I'm like all right, I need lime. 390 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:17,561 Speaker 1: So she's like, just put a little bit of this essential. 391 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 3: Oil like on a cotton swab and put it in 392 00:17:19,521 --> 00:17:21,201 Speaker 3: your room tonight, just to make sure it. 393 00:17:21,120 --> 00:17:23,120 Speaker 1: Doesn't come back. And I'm like, I'll do you one better. 394 00:17:23,120 --> 00:17:24,640 Speaker 3: I'm getting a lime and I'm going to cut it 395 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:26,481 Speaker 3: in half and I'm going to put the two halves 396 00:17:26,521 --> 00:17:28,880 Speaker 3: in a dish beside my bed and just pray that 397 00:17:28,921 --> 00:17:31,801 Speaker 3: it soaks up all the vibes. Because I started to 398 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:35,041 Speaker 3: read up on limes and they're a really beautiful cleansing agent, 399 00:17:35,281 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 3: so they read negative fear based energies, any spirits that 400 00:17:38,481 --> 00:17:41,201 Speaker 3: don't belong in your space. Many cultures have used this 401 00:17:41,241 --> 00:17:43,880 Speaker 3: for years, but no one's just actively talking about it. 402 00:17:44,201 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 3: So I started to share it because I felt great 403 00:17:46,441 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 3: after I put the limes in, I slept like a baby. 404 00:17:48,761 --> 00:17:50,281 Speaker 1: I'm like, this is a thing. 405 00:17:50,761 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 3: And then it went viral, but everyone started asking me 406 00:17:53,721 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 3: about it. 407 00:17:54,561 --> 00:17:56,360 Speaker 1: Moms are like, can I do it with my kids? 408 00:17:56,360 --> 00:17:57,400 Speaker 1: Can I just put it in their. 409 00:17:57,360 --> 00:17:59,441 Speaker 3: Room to make them like sleep really well and rid 410 00:17:59,441 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 3: the energy. I'm like, you may as well give it 411 00:18:01,481 --> 00:18:02,880 Speaker 3: a shot, and they did. 412 00:18:03,481 --> 00:18:04,360 Speaker 1: All over the world. 413 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:06,801 Speaker 3: All my real went crazy, and all these mums a 414 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:09,400 Speaker 3: messaging me going, oh my god, yess, my kids are 415 00:18:09,441 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 3: sleeping like twelve hours and they've never slept through the 416 00:18:12,001 --> 00:18:14,440 Speaker 3: night in their lives, and they're saying that there's no 417 00:18:14,521 --> 00:18:17,920 Speaker 3: more monsters in their room. And there's no weird lady 418 00:18:17,961 --> 00:18:22,041 Speaker 3: standing by the door anymore. Like it's just change the 419 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:23,161 Speaker 3: world crazy. 420 00:18:23,441 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 2: Everyone's like, okay, we're all cutting up blines tonight and 421 00:18:26,721 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 2: putting them out in our rooms. 422 00:18:29,921 --> 00:18:32,521 Speaker 3: Yes, it is the thing, and I find too when 423 00:18:32,561 --> 00:18:35,681 Speaker 3: you send an intention for it, everything's so much more powerful. 424 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:38,561 Speaker 3: So if you believe and you put them there with 425 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 3: the intention of ridding any negative energies, any spirits that 426 00:18:42,241 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 3: don't belong there, anyone playing funny buggers at night, it 427 00:18:45,120 --> 00:18:45,880 Speaker 3: will clear it. 428 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:46,601 Speaker 1: It will be amazing. 429 00:18:46,721 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 2: I was wondering. I'm like, isn't it Is it an 430 00:18:49,041 --> 00:18:51,521 Speaker 2: intention thing? Like could you do it to anything? Or 431 00:18:51,561 --> 00:18:54,241 Speaker 2: do you think it's almost just like the lime as well? 432 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:58,321 Speaker 3: Oh, it's definitely the lime, like because sometimes you know, 433 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:00,080 Speaker 3: parents are putting it in the kids rooms and they're 434 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:01,880 Speaker 3: not telling the kids that they're putting it in there 435 00:19:02,201 --> 00:19:04,201 Speaker 3: or why they are, and it's still having the effect. 436 00:19:04,561 --> 00:19:06,801 Speaker 3: So I don't think think it's a placebo. I just 437 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 3: feel like there's when you have more intention around things, 438 00:19:10,120 --> 00:19:12,281 Speaker 3: it tends to be more powerful, So I think it 439 00:19:12,321 --> 00:19:14,921 Speaker 3: has a better effect. It's kind of like with anything 440 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 3: like when you sage, if you just walk around saging like, 441 00:19:17,961 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 3: that's cool, it'll probably do half the job. But if 442 00:19:20,001 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 3: you deal with the intention of getting rid of things 443 00:19:22,561 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 3: and like clearing the space and you're walking around thinking 444 00:19:25,120 --> 00:19:27,561 Speaker 3: about that, I just feel like there's more of an effect. 445 00:19:27,961 --> 00:19:29,561 Speaker 2: Yes and no. I wonder whether it's got something to 446 00:19:29,561 --> 00:19:32,440 Speaker 2: do almost like with the consent as well, because you know, 447 00:19:32,681 --> 00:19:37,360 Speaker 2: like obviously spirits or whatever, they there's if you say, 448 00:19:37,481 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 2: like make sure, if you're like absolutely you were not 449 00:19:40,721 --> 00:19:44,001 Speaker 2: allowed in this space, I like, you know you've consent, 450 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:47,561 Speaker 2: you haven't consented to them being new around you, whatever else, 451 00:19:47,961 --> 00:19:50,400 Speaker 2: then they know they have to like they can't. So 452 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 2: I wonder whether it's almost like they like they're like 453 00:19:53,561 --> 00:19:56,680 Speaker 2: the line that means absolutely fucking not. That's like the 454 00:19:56,801 --> 00:19:57,761 Speaker 2: human safe word. 455 00:19:58,160 --> 00:19:58,961 Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. 456 00:19:59,001 --> 00:20:02,041 Speaker 3: Well it's it's obviously becoming that they're recognizing it, going 457 00:20:02,321 --> 00:20:04,160 Speaker 3: oh okay, this is a hell no situation. 458 00:20:04,561 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 2: I know. That's what I'm wondering. I'm like, they're like 459 00:20:06,241 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 2: sitting out of the reels, are going crazy. They're like, well, guys, 460 00:20:09,481 --> 00:20:13,761 Speaker 2: the last group, Yeah, I'm absolutely trying. I'm doing that today. 461 00:20:13,761 --> 00:20:17,120 Speaker 2: Anyone listening, we're all trying limes. So putting limes in 462 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:19,801 Speaker 2: our room. We'll see what happens, especially with kids, because 463 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:23,641 Speaker 2: like obviously I get a lot of I've got three kids, 464 00:20:23,721 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 2: and I get a lot of people like contacting me 465 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 2: who have children who see things and experience things and everything, 466 00:20:30,921 --> 00:20:35,801 Speaker 2: And it's always really interesting trying to like balance protecting 467 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 2: them but also like them protecting themselves, but also like 468 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:44,880 Speaker 2: not making it like a scary thing or like you know, 469 00:20:45,120 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 2: trying to create that connection between them and spirit and everything. 470 00:20:47,761 --> 00:20:50,761 Speaker 2: Like one of my sons, he's a crazy medium. Like 471 00:20:51,241 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 2: the shit he sees is insane and it's so normal 472 00:20:55,481 --> 00:20:57,521 Speaker 2: for me, but he was really scared for a really 473 00:20:57,521 --> 00:21:00,121 Speaker 2: long time, even though it was the most normal thing 474 00:21:00,120 --> 00:21:02,441 Speaker 2: in our house to like talk about, you know, spirits 475 00:21:02,441 --> 00:21:04,481 Speaker 2: and all sorts of things. And it took him a 476 00:21:04,521 --> 00:21:06,721 Speaker 2: long time to not be afraid of them. But I 477 00:21:06,721 --> 00:21:08,880 Speaker 2: would always say to I would always be like, just 478 00:21:08,921 --> 00:21:12,041 Speaker 2: don't let him see you, Like, hang the fucker. I 479 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 2: know you like like him. I know you, I know 480 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,640 Speaker 2: you like him, but just like just honestly, just don't 481 00:21:18,801 --> 00:21:22,121 Speaker 2: let him see you until he's like ready, and he 482 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:25,001 Speaker 2: doesn't like he sees them, He's like, oh, I'm playing 483 00:21:25,041 --> 00:21:27,321 Speaker 2: with my friends tonight, he's like, got my ghost friends. 484 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:29,441 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my god, like I want to hang 485 00:21:29,441 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 2: out too. 486 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:37,601 Speaker 1: So good. Oh well, all right, let's talk about. 487 00:21:37,281 --> 00:21:40,481 Speaker 2: The mediumship thing again, because like I actually realize I 488 00:21:40,521 --> 00:21:42,041 Speaker 2: don't think i've I mean, I've had a lot of 489 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:44,641 Speaker 2: sort of mediums and stuff on the podcast, but it's 490 00:21:44,681 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 2: normally someone who does something and is it's not someone 491 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:53,281 Speaker 2: who's like what I do is do one on one 492 00:21:53,321 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 2: readings every single day. What do you think as a 493 00:21:57,041 --> 00:22:00,721 Speaker 2: medium who speaks to the dead all the fucking time, 494 00:22:01,561 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 2: what do you think people's loved ones want us to 495 00:22:06,561 --> 00:22:08,880 Speaker 2: know more than anything or what seems to just be 496 00:22:09,120 --> 00:22:13,841 Speaker 2: like I don't know, like a general message or something 497 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 2: that you know, you wish people knew. 498 00:22:17,681 --> 00:22:18,761 Speaker 1: I feel like a lot. 499 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,801 Speaker 3: Of the messages I get from spirit are around like closure. 500 00:22:22,561 --> 00:22:25,801 Speaker 3: It's like closure, like it was okay that you didn't 501 00:22:25,801 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 3: make it to say goodbye, or it was supposed to 502 00:22:28,201 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 3: be this way, or you know, don't feel guilty that 503 00:22:31,281 --> 00:22:33,880 Speaker 3: we didn't find out sooner what was going on with me? 504 00:22:34,241 --> 00:22:36,321 Speaker 3: Like it was all supposed to unfold the way that 505 00:22:36,360 --> 00:22:39,481 Speaker 3: it was. There wasn't anything else that you could have done. 506 00:22:39,561 --> 00:22:42,360 Speaker 3: A lot of what people bring to readings is guilt 507 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:46,641 Speaker 3: and burdens and not knowing. And I feel like if 508 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:49,321 Speaker 3: you're carrying that around, I can tell you right now 509 00:22:49,681 --> 00:22:52,281 Speaker 3: that they don't want you to feel that way. You're 510 00:22:52,321 --> 00:22:55,081 Speaker 3: not supposed to be carrying that at all. They want 511 00:22:55,120 --> 00:22:58,440 Speaker 3: you to know there at peace and everything unfortunately was 512 00:22:58,481 --> 00:23:00,041 Speaker 3: supposed to be the way that it was. 513 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:01,561 Speaker 1: You couldn't have changed that if. 514 00:23:01,481 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 3: You got there earlier that day, or you know, you 515 00:23:04,481 --> 00:23:05,801 Speaker 3: hadn't have made that call. 516 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 1: And it's like, we can't do that to ourselves, so 517 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:10,001 Speaker 1: you have to stop torturing yourself. 518 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,481 Speaker 2: That's so interesting. I did a workshop the other day 519 00:23:13,561 --> 00:23:16,521 Speaker 2: that was literally like helping people connect to loved ones 520 00:23:16,561 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 2: and like sort of teaching them how they can connect 521 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:22,120 Speaker 2: to their loved ones. And the message that spirit gave 522 00:23:22,241 --> 00:23:26,041 Speaker 2: me to share with everyone was like, please don't feel guilt. 523 00:23:26,441 --> 00:23:29,921 Speaker 2: Please don't feel guilty, and exactly what you said, there 524 00:23:29,961 --> 00:23:32,400 Speaker 2: wasn't anything else you could have done. There wasn't anything 525 00:23:32,441 --> 00:23:34,801 Speaker 2: you've done wrong. Like the last thing we ever wanted 526 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:38,400 Speaker 2: to feel is guilt because it doesn't help you. It 527 00:23:38,441 --> 00:23:41,721 Speaker 2: makes no difference to us, Like we can just see 528 00:23:41,721 --> 00:23:44,880 Speaker 2: that you're hurting, and we just wish that like, we 529 00:23:45,001 --> 00:23:47,041 Speaker 2: just wish that we could take that hurt away from you. 530 00:23:47,801 --> 00:23:48,681 Speaker 1: Yes, it is. 531 00:23:49,001 --> 00:23:51,321 Speaker 3: I'm actually glad that we've both had that first thing 532 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,321 Speaker 3: come to mind, because it is really important that you 533 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:57,561 Speaker 3: know that they've let go of all of that. And 534 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,400 Speaker 3: I think too, some of the conversations that we have 535 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,241 Speaker 3: here we hang on to that and we're like, oh, 536 00:24:03,321 --> 00:24:05,321 Speaker 3: this is the last thing I said to them. I 537 00:24:05,360 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 3: can't believe that. You know, I didn't say this or 538 00:24:07,681 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 3: I didn't say that. I always say a lot and 539 00:24:10,241 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 3: I love this. I'm not sure which spirit said it 540 00:24:12,481 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 3: this way, but now I say it like this quite often. 541 00:24:15,561 --> 00:24:18,721 Speaker 1: That's all just human stuff. Yeah, They're like. 542 00:24:18,721 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 3: That's all conversations and things that happened, and they don't 543 00:24:22,321 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 3: worry about those things. 544 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 1: That's just stuff that we have when we're here. 545 00:24:26,120 --> 00:24:29,961 Speaker 3: But souls and our connections to each other, that's what matters, 546 00:24:30,001 --> 00:24:32,401 Speaker 3: and that's what lives on. The love within the connection 547 00:24:32,521 --> 00:24:35,640 Speaker 3: that we share doesn't matter about the little the human stuff, 548 00:24:35,721 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 3: you know. 549 00:24:36,360 --> 00:24:39,561 Speaker 2: Yes, and their memories, Like that's something that I feel 550 00:24:39,561 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 2: like I'm just realizing, well not even realizing, but learning 551 00:24:42,721 --> 00:24:47,001 Speaker 2: more and more from spirits, is the significance of memories. 552 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:50,120 Speaker 2: And how that's essentially why they even come down, because 553 00:24:50,120 --> 00:24:53,441 Speaker 2: they're coming they're basically just collect they're like learning, they're 554 00:24:53,441 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 2: like collecting all of these memories, and then they take 555 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:59,160 Speaker 2: those memories on with them and then they like you know, 556 00:24:59,360 --> 00:25:02,400 Speaker 2: share their memories with others, and so they're like constantly 557 00:25:02,481 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 2: just learning and evolving and from these memories. So like, 558 00:25:06,681 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 2: as you said, you know, you can sit there and 559 00:25:08,241 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 2: go like, you know, I didn't get to have that 560 00:25:10,041 --> 00:25:13,321 Speaker 2: last conversation, But all they're thinking about is all of 561 00:25:13,321 --> 00:25:15,561 Speaker 2: those Like they're bringing all of those memories that you've 562 00:25:15,561 --> 00:25:16,441 Speaker 2: had together with them. 563 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:20,041 Speaker 3: Yes, and that's what matters. It's the connection you've shared. 564 00:25:20,281 --> 00:25:22,601 Speaker 3: It's you know, the love you've had for each other. 565 00:25:22,721 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 3: That's what lives on, not those last little moments that 566 00:25:26,561 --> 00:25:28,640 Speaker 3: maybe weren't exactly the way you would have hoped that 567 00:25:28,681 --> 00:25:31,681 Speaker 3: they would have been. It doesn't sum up your whole connection. 568 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 3: So we have to look at the whole rather than 569 00:25:33,561 --> 00:25:35,001 Speaker 3: looking at all the little pieces. 570 00:25:35,360 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 2: Yes, what kind of spirits do you communicate with? Like 571 00:25:40,761 --> 00:25:47,001 Speaker 2: are they just fast blood ones? Angels, your smiriteam galactics? 572 00:25:47,120 --> 00:25:48,321 Speaker 2: Like what have you seen? 573 00:25:49,041 --> 00:25:49,321 Speaker 1: Yeah? 574 00:25:49,360 --> 00:25:53,361 Speaker 3: So for me, it's mostly loved ones. Yeah, I can 575 00:25:53,360 --> 00:25:59,001 Speaker 3: connect with animals too. That's amazing. I love that, yeah, 576 00:25:59,041 --> 00:26:02,641 Speaker 3: pretty much. But I have had animals that have come 577 00:26:02,681 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 3: through from the start because someone said, I really want 578 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,241 Speaker 3: to connect dog, and it's ended up being the dog 579 00:26:07,281 --> 00:26:09,321 Speaker 3: giving the whole messages like all of them for the 580 00:26:09,321 --> 00:26:10,160 Speaker 3: rest of the reading. 581 00:26:10,360 --> 00:26:12,561 Speaker 1: So it's super cool to feel like. 582 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:16,680 Speaker 3: Your animals are over there watching you, like your human 583 00:26:16,681 --> 00:26:20,521 Speaker 3: loved ones. Good, Yeah, sort of, it's really cool, but yeah, 584 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,921 Speaker 3: mostly loved ones animals. I can also connect with people 585 00:26:23,921 --> 00:26:27,680 Speaker 3: who are still living, who are living with dementia or 586 00:26:27,761 --> 00:26:31,921 Speaker 3: a nonverbal So that's a really powerful thing that I've 587 00:26:31,921 --> 00:26:34,640 Speaker 3: come across and is really healing for a lot of 588 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,241 Speaker 3: people who are watching somebody in that state and aren't 589 00:26:37,241 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 3: sure if they're aware of what's going on. 590 00:26:39,921 --> 00:26:43,321 Speaker 2: That's really interesting What comes through often in those sorts 591 00:26:43,360 --> 00:26:46,481 Speaker 2: of situations with someone who's like nonverbal or has. 592 00:26:46,241 --> 00:26:50,681 Speaker 3: Dementia, it's usually around them wanting to give I guess 593 00:26:50,681 --> 00:26:53,801 Speaker 3: reassurance to that person that they know what they're doing, 594 00:26:54,001 --> 00:26:56,440 Speaker 3: they know what's going on, they know that they're showing 595 00:26:56,521 --> 00:26:59,880 Speaker 3: up for them. Also, I've actually had somebody come through 596 00:26:59,921 --> 00:27:03,281 Speaker 3: to let the person know that's like looking after them 597 00:27:03,561 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 3: the things that maybe they need more of, or the 598 00:27:05,721 --> 00:27:08,441 Speaker 3: things that might be making them sick, or like I've 599 00:27:08,441 --> 00:27:11,961 Speaker 3: had things like oh, I don't stop feeding me that. 600 00:27:11,441 --> 00:27:13,801 Speaker 1: That apple stuff, and I was like, what are you 601 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:15,441 Speaker 1: feeding them? And they're like, oh my god. 602 00:27:15,441 --> 00:27:17,001 Speaker 3: I was actually thinking that I'm going to change up 603 00:27:17,041 --> 00:27:18,801 Speaker 3: what I'm giving them because we've been giving them. 604 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:19,561 Speaker 1: Apple for a while. 605 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,401 Speaker 3: And I was like, I feel like they need pair now, 606 00:27:21,521 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 3: well they need something else, and they're like I was 607 00:27:23,761 --> 00:27:26,241 Speaker 3: just thinking that, but I wasn't sure, and I was like, well, 608 00:27:26,481 --> 00:27:29,281 Speaker 3: I don't like that, so go to something new. So 609 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,920 Speaker 3: sometimes it's just like little pieces of information to just 610 00:27:33,041 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 3: validate that they know. So if you've got someone who's 611 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,400 Speaker 3: living with this, know that their mind is wandering to 612 00:27:38,481 --> 00:27:41,201 Speaker 3: the spirit world and when they don't feel like they're 613 00:27:41,241 --> 00:27:44,801 Speaker 3: present with you, it's because they're actually present with the 614 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:48,281 Speaker 3: other side and they're not suffering in their minds. They 615 00:27:48,360 --> 00:27:50,561 Speaker 3: are traveling to the spirit world and back and they're 616 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,360 Speaker 3: finding that peace and closure in those moments. 617 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:54,521 Speaker 1: I love that. 618 00:27:54,521 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 2: That is so beautiful. I've connected with a few like 619 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:01,881 Speaker 2: dementia patients, but never lack anyone non verbal, and it's 620 00:28:01,921 --> 00:28:04,201 Speaker 2: interesting they say sort of similar things like I need 621 00:28:04,241 --> 00:28:08,041 Speaker 2: more of this less that well, like you know, and 622 00:28:08,120 --> 00:28:10,241 Speaker 2: just and same thing. It's like they're going back and 623 00:28:10,281 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 2: forth as well, like they're there and then they're not. 624 00:28:13,721 --> 00:28:17,880 Speaker 2: How about like spirit babies. Do you connect your spirit babies? 625 00:28:17,921 --> 00:28:23,160 Speaker 1: Yes? I love spirit babies. They're my favorite. Energy is so. 626 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,440 Speaker 3: Beautiful and so funny, like they're always just full of 627 00:28:26,521 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 3: life and excited and no worries and no fuss and 628 00:28:31,321 --> 00:28:32,921 Speaker 3: they're just coming in on their own time. 629 00:28:33,281 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 2: Yes, and they like they know what they want to, 630 00:28:36,561 --> 00:28:39,641 Speaker 2: like they're often like a little bit sassy like sometimes 631 00:28:39,681 --> 00:28:42,841 Speaker 2: like it's like their personalities are very much their personalities. 632 00:28:43,321 --> 00:28:44,481 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're already intact. 633 00:28:44,481 --> 00:28:46,881 Speaker 3: And I love being able to tell like the expected mother, 634 00:28:46,961 --> 00:28:49,201 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, I'm connecting with your baby. 635 00:28:48,881 --> 00:28:51,681 Speaker 1: And she's like this and she's like, oh shit, like 636 00:28:51,721 --> 00:28:52,761 Speaker 1: what am I in store for? 637 00:28:53,201 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 3: And I'm like you'll see. And then they come out 638 00:28:55,721 --> 00:28:56,081 Speaker 3: and they're like. 639 00:28:56,041 --> 00:28:57,921 Speaker 1: Oh my god, she's exactly the way that you said 640 00:28:57,921 --> 00:28:58,601 Speaker 1: she was going to be. 641 00:28:58,801 --> 00:29:01,801 Speaker 3: So it's so it's really cool to be able to 642 00:29:02,081 --> 00:29:04,961 Speaker 3: give that little gift to the mum to be as well. 643 00:29:05,161 --> 00:29:05,881 Speaker 1: It's really cool. 644 00:29:05,961 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 2: Yes, And I love like how normalized it almost is 645 00:29:10,561 --> 00:29:12,881 Speaker 2: now for people. You know, people are pregnant, they're like 646 00:29:13,801 --> 00:29:16,481 Speaker 2: connecting to their spirit baby, or they're not even they're 647 00:29:16,521 --> 00:29:19,161 Speaker 2: like I like so many people I know who I 648 00:29:19,241 --> 00:29:22,121 Speaker 2: just never would have imagined would be you know, remotely 649 00:29:22,561 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 2: wo win the slightest they're like, oh, you know, I 650 00:29:25,281 --> 00:29:27,801 Speaker 2: can feel a spirit baby around and I've been like, 651 00:29:27,841 --> 00:29:31,081 Speaker 2: my spirit baby's connecting to me, or when they are pregnant. 652 00:29:31,361 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 2: And I think because like now that we're sort of 653 00:29:33,801 --> 00:29:38,441 Speaker 2: so open to so much more, like it's just such 654 00:29:38,481 --> 00:29:41,241 Speaker 2: a different world now, and it's so exciting for people 655 00:29:41,281 --> 00:29:43,961 Speaker 2: like you and I like you and I where it's 656 00:29:44,001 --> 00:29:46,881 Speaker 2: almost like we can just be free and brs and 657 00:29:46,961 --> 00:29:47,481 Speaker 2: be weird. 658 00:29:48,361 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, and like it's normalized totally. 659 00:29:50,681 --> 00:29:57,561 Speaker 2: Yes, it's getting them thinks it's all right, I love it. 660 00:29:57,601 --> 00:30:00,401 Speaker 2: But like, you know, people are really starting to connect 661 00:30:00,441 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 2: like with these little beings and starting to connect with 662 00:30:03,241 --> 00:30:08,281 Speaker 2: like and even to be to see children as souls 663 00:30:08,441 --> 00:30:10,881 Speaker 2: as well, I think is so powerful and is changing 664 00:30:10,921 --> 00:30:13,121 Speaker 2: a lot of how we parent because it's not like 665 00:30:13,761 --> 00:30:16,241 Speaker 2: they've come on down and you know, our job as 666 00:30:16,321 --> 00:30:18,321 Speaker 2: parents is to tell them what to do and teach 667 00:30:18,361 --> 00:30:20,641 Speaker 2: them att life and all of that kind of thing 668 00:30:20,721 --> 00:30:22,801 Speaker 2: and you're seen and not heard, and or the other 669 00:30:22,841 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 2: way around heard and also nope, that's seen, not her. 670 00:30:25,401 --> 00:30:29,641 Speaker 2: You're right. But now like these these little spirits are 671 00:30:29,641 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 2: coming down and we understand that there's like this dance 672 00:30:33,041 --> 00:30:36,881 Speaker 2: between parent and child where like we're here to help 673 00:30:36,881 --> 00:30:39,121 Speaker 2: them be human because we've been doing it for longer, 674 00:30:39,481 --> 00:30:43,041 Speaker 2: but they're here to teach us so much shit, Like 675 00:30:43,081 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 2: they're here to just evolve us in a really like 676 00:30:46,521 --> 00:30:47,561 Speaker 2: spectacular way. 677 00:30:48,961 --> 00:30:52,001 Speaker 3: I found the same thing a lot of mums. I'm like, Wow, 678 00:30:52,041 --> 00:30:54,561 Speaker 3: your daughter's here to heal you. I'm like, it's like 679 00:30:54,601 --> 00:30:57,201 Speaker 3: you see yourself in her, or like she'll trigger things 680 00:30:57,201 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 3: in you, but it's actually to help you recognize parts 681 00:31:00,481 --> 00:31:03,201 Speaker 3: of yourself that still need healing, and you'll heal yourself 682 00:31:03,321 --> 00:31:05,321 Speaker 3: through parenting your child. 683 00:31:05,601 --> 00:31:07,121 Speaker 2: Yes, children do that to us. 684 00:31:07,721 --> 00:31:11,521 Speaker 1: They're like little mirrors, yes, for sure, mirrors. 685 00:31:11,721 --> 00:31:14,401 Speaker 2: How some other ways that you find that the loved 686 00:31:14,401 --> 00:31:18,121 Speaker 2: ones really want to connect with like people on. 687 00:31:18,161 --> 00:31:23,241 Speaker 3: Earth through like signs, signs and symbols, and that's how 688 00:31:23,281 --> 00:31:25,121 Speaker 3: you can connect with your own loved ones. And I 689 00:31:25,241 --> 00:31:28,721 Speaker 3: like to say, don't wait for a sign, ask yeah them, 690 00:31:29,041 --> 00:31:30,921 Speaker 3: be like hey, I haven't heard from you guys in 691 00:31:30,921 --> 00:31:32,681 Speaker 3: a while, like where are you? Like, if you want 692 00:31:32,681 --> 00:31:35,161 Speaker 3: to connect with your nana, be like all right, Nana, 693 00:31:35,281 --> 00:31:37,921 Speaker 3: Like you show me a sign, ask for a specific 694 00:31:37,961 --> 00:31:39,201 Speaker 3: one and just see what happens. 695 00:31:39,641 --> 00:31:42,281 Speaker 2: Yes, And I always say to people, if you think it, 696 00:31:42,601 --> 00:31:45,121 Speaker 2: if you think it is, it is, like and even 697 00:31:45,161 --> 00:31:47,161 Speaker 2: the fact that if you see someone and you think 698 00:31:47,201 --> 00:31:50,961 Speaker 2: of them, it's them, you know, like I'll have to 699 00:31:51,081 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 2: I often find like when I'm connecting to loved ones, 700 00:31:53,921 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 2: like really interestingly, they they keep showing me even like 701 00:31:58,161 --> 00:32:00,481 Speaker 2: they'll show up in like books or something like they'll 702 00:32:00,521 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 2: be reading a passage for example, and it's just like 703 00:32:03,721 --> 00:32:07,081 Speaker 2: one paragraph and as they're reading that, they're like thinking 704 00:32:07,121 --> 00:32:09,681 Speaker 2: about their mum or whatever it is, and it's like 705 00:32:09,721 --> 00:32:11,881 Speaker 2: those words are like from her to you. 706 00:32:12,681 --> 00:32:15,281 Speaker 1: Oh I love that. But it's so powerful. 707 00:32:15,641 --> 00:32:18,281 Speaker 2: But it's like in ways, and it's also like funny 708 00:32:18,321 --> 00:32:20,801 Speaker 2: as well, like spiritual. So they love to make you, 709 00:32:20,921 --> 00:32:24,521 Speaker 2: especially in a time where you're grieving. They love to 710 00:32:24,561 --> 00:32:25,561 Speaker 2: bring a lightness. 711 00:32:26,441 --> 00:32:29,001 Speaker 3: Yes, I agree, and that's why I say with my 712 00:32:29,041 --> 00:32:31,401 Speaker 3: readings too, it's like, yes, we will go deep and 713 00:32:31,401 --> 00:32:32,921 Speaker 3: we need to go wherever we need to go. 714 00:32:33,121 --> 00:32:35,521 Speaker 1: But a lot of it's light. It's fun. 715 00:32:35,801 --> 00:32:38,281 Speaker 3: It's like they're reminding you of some of the weird 716 00:32:38,321 --> 00:32:40,481 Speaker 3: things they've done, all the things you've done together, or 717 00:32:40,521 --> 00:32:41,561 Speaker 3: they come through with their. 718 00:32:41,521 --> 00:32:44,321 Speaker 1: Sas and we just laugh at like their personality. 719 00:32:44,521 --> 00:32:47,681 Speaker 3: Like I just think it's nice sometimes to have the 720 00:32:47,801 --> 00:32:52,921 Speaker 3: lightness with the darker energy and that like grief in 721 00:32:52,961 --> 00:32:57,001 Speaker 3: the trenches of life loss, Like, we can't stay in that. 722 00:32:57,001 --> 00:32:59,841 Speaker 3: That's not healthy for us to be living in that 723 00:33:00,081 --> 00:33:03,161 Speaker 3: grief energy. We have to be able to find a 724 00:33:03,201 --> 00:33:06,441 Speaker 3: way to see the lightness or to. 725 00:33:06,521 --> 00:33:07,601 Speaker 1: Jump in and out of that. 726 00:33:07,761 --> 00:33:11,121 Speaker 3: So I think that spirit in readings really do that beautifully. 727 00:33:11,481 --> 00:33:14,081 Speaker 3: They jump in and out of the lightness to the grief, 728 00:33:14,121 --> 00:33:16,761 Speaker 3: and they sort of just make you feel better. I 729 00:33:16,761 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 3: always find that we always walk away from readings feeling 730 00:33:19,241 --> 00:33:21,521 Speaker 3: so much lighter, both of us really. 731 00:33:21,481 --> 00:33:24,721 Speaker 2: And I feel like they even sort of were saying 732 00:33:24,761 --> 00:33:27,081 Speaker 2: to me the other day, like about the lightness and 733 00:33:27,121 --> 00:33:29,921 Speaker 2: the darkness, especially like when we're feeling grief, because often 734 00:33:29,961 --> 00:33:32,921 Speaker 2: when people are grieving, they feel really guilty to feel 735 00:33:32,921 --> 00:33:36,641 Speaker 2: anything else the second they feel anything other than grief 736 00:33:36,681 --> 00:33:40,521 Speaker 2: and sadness, Like if they they feel this like this guilt, 737 00:33:40,601 --> 00:33:43,761 Speaker 2: Like I shouldn't be feeling this whereas like spirit is like, 738 00:33:44,321 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 2: but that's impossible, Like you should be like smiling as 739 00:33:47,561 --> 00:33:49,641 Speaker 2: much as you're grieving, Like there's so much beauty in 740 00:33:49,641 --> 00:33:52,041 Speaker 2: the world, Like it could be the most horrible day 741 00:33:52,041 --> 00:33:54,321 Speaker 2: in the whole wide world, and yet there's still like 742 00:33:54,361 --> 00:33:58,321 Speaker 2: a sunset or a sunrise, and they're still laughter. There's 743 00:33:58,361 --> 00:34:01,601 Speaker 2: still funny things, and you shouldn't be denying yourself of that. 744 00:34:01,841 --> 00:34:05,681 Speaker 2: Like it's as much to feel as it is to 745 00:34:05,681 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 2: feel the grief. 746 00:34:07,361 --> 00:34:10,561 Speaker 1: I agree. You need to try to ride the wave. 747 00:34:11,041 --> 00:34:13,241 Speaker 3: That's I like to call it, you know, if you're 748 00:34:13,241 --> 00:34:16,121 Speaker 3: feeling a certain way, like I've been through the same things. 749 00:34:16,121 --> 00:34:17,641 Speaker 3: I've lost a lot of people in my life. I've 750 00:34:17,641 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 3: had a lot of really shitty things happen with. 751 00:34:19,401 --> 00:34:21,681 Speaker 1: Me, and I just surrender to it all. Now I'm 752 00:34:21,721 --> 00:34:22,481 Speaker 1: kind of like, you know what. 753 00:34:22,881 --> 00:34:24,881 Speaker 3: At one point I said to my wife, I was 754 00:34:25,121 --> 00:34:27,041 Speaker 3: just crying one night, just in the kitchen. I wasn't 755 00:34:27,081 --> 00:34:29,361 Speaker 3: hysterically crying, just tears. We're just rolling down my face 756 00:34:29,401 --> 00:34:31,601 Speaker 3: and she's like, are you okay, And I'm like, don't worry, 757 00:34:31,721 --> 00:34:32,281 Speaker 3: just let them go. 758 00:34:32,841 --> 00:34:34,721 Speaker 1: I just kept going on with my business. I'm just 759 00:34:34,761 --> 00:34:37,441 Speaker 1: crying around the house and I didn't even know why, 760 00:34:37,481 --> 00:34:39,241 Speaker 1: but I was like, obviously I need a release. 761 00:34:39,481 --> 00:34:46,161 Speaker 2: I'm just like just restingtically moving through my body. 762 00:34:46,481 --> 00:34:48,641 Speaker 3: Yeah, but you just let yourself if you feel it, 763 00:34:48,761 --> 00:34:52,281 Speaker 3: you know, just let it go, like allow it to 764 00:34:52,361 --> 00:34:56,001 Speaker 3: come out, because you'll find that one day you'll just 765 00:34:56,561 --> 00:35:00,361 Speaker 3: stop crying and it'll be done, you know, and you 766 00:35:00,441 --> 00:35:02,641 Speaker 3: might randomly feel that way, but it won't be that 767 00:35:02,801 --> 00:35:06,201 Speaker 3: consistent energy. I feel like the more we try to 768 00:35:06,241 --> 00:35:09,041 Speaker 3: stop things, or we try to control how we're feeling, 769 00:35:09,121 --> 00:35:11,001 Speaker 3: or oh I should be over it by now, or 770 00:35:11,041 --> 00:35:13,921 Speaker 3: I can't still be crying or whatever, it's like who says, 771 00:35:14,521 --> 00:35:17,561 Speaker 3: like but why not, Like don't hold back, Like that's 772 00:35:17,641 --> 00:35:18,521 Speaker 3: you processing. 773 00:35:18,561 --> 00:35:21,641 Speaker 1: We need to process to move forward and to heal. 774 00:35:22,241 --> 00:35:24,841 Speaker 2: Yes. Actually, even something came up the other day when 775 00:35:24,881 --> 00:35:27,521 Speaker 2: I was like connecting to spirit and they were talking about, 776 00:35:27,561 --> 00:35:30,361 Speaker 2: you know, grief and connecting to loved ones, and they 777 00:35:30,361 --> 00:35:34,641 Speaker 2: were saying, often they'll like even make themselves known and 778 00:35:34,881 --> 00:35:38,761 Speaker 2: like you'll feel them so that you can actually feel 779 00:35:38,801 --> 00:35:42,001 Speaker 2: and process that grief because you know, often sometimes at 780 00:35:42,001 --> 00:35:43,881 Speaker 2: the time when it's all happening and it is like 781 00:35:43,921 --> 00:35:46,121 Speaker 2: this constant thing and often we'll keep it in our 782 00:35:46,121 --> 00:35:48,881 Speaker 2: bodies and it will stay stagnant. So they'll sort of 783 00:35:49,001 --> 00:35:52,561 Speaker 2: like you'll remember them, or like you'll have a moment 784 00:35:52,601 --> 00:35:55,201 Speaker 2: where you just will miss them so much and you'll 785 00:35:55,281 --> 00:35:58,721 Speaker 2: have that real physical reaction where you'll like cry and 786 00:35:58,761 --> 00:36:01,841 Speaker 2: you'll feel it all. And they're like, we're actually helping 787 00:36:01,881 --> 00:36:04,001 Speaker 2: you move it, we're helping you process it. 788 00:36:04,681 --> 00:36:08,401 Speaker 1: Yeah, so don't deny it, just allow it to unfold. 789 00:36:09,001 --> 00:36:10,201 Speaker 1: And like the thing is, I. 790 00:36:10,201 --> 00:36:11,641 Speaker 3: Was in the kitchen, I was at home, there was 791 00:36:11,681 --> 00:36:13,801 Speaker 3: no one around, and they chose that moment. 792 00:36:13,841 --> 00:36:14,761 Speaker 1: I'm like cool. 793 00:36:15,041 --> 00:36:17,801 Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm glad you've chosen this moment. So sometimes 794 00:36:17,841 --> 00:36:19,960 Speaker 3: they do it for you. They're like, all right, she's 795 00:36:19,961 --> 00:36:22,321 Speaker 3: got a night where she's got no one around. Just 796 00:36:22,441 --> 00:36:24,201 Speaker 3: let it all happen, let it all out, and then 797 00:36:24,241 --> 00:36:26,401 Speaker 3: I can wake up the next day. And I always 798 00:36:26,441 --> 00:36:29,321 Speaker 3: like to think too that tomorrow's another day. Tomorrow will 799 00:36:29,361 --> 00:36:31,480 Speaker 3: be better. Tomorrow you'll wake up and it might hurt 800 00:36:31,481 --> 00:36:33,241 Speaker 3: just a little bit less, or you might have a 801 00:36:33,321 --> 00:36:38,121 Speaker 3: confident day, or just allow yourself to Yeah, as I said, 802 00:36:38,201 --> 00:36:39,481 Speaker 3: ride the way, it's important. 803 00:36:39,841 --> 00:36:43,401 Speaker 2: Can you think of any readings that have felt or 804 00:36:43,481 --> 00:36:47,721 Speaker 2: like moments in readings that have felt extremely significant, where 805 00:36:47,721 --> 00:36:51,921 Speaker 2: it's like it was such a like learning moment, or 806 00:36:51,961 --> 00:36:54,961 Speaker 2: in a harm moment, or like that was fucking crazy moment. 807 00:36:56,121 --> 00:36:58,721 Speaker 3: There's so many of them, hope, and all the time, 808 00:36:59,041 --> 00:37:01,321 Speaker 3: which is so great and I love it too. And 809 00:37:01,641 --> 00:37:04,881 Speaker 3: I think the most amazing readings are where you needed 810 00:37:04,881 --> 00:37:08,001 Speaker 3: the to hear that stuff too. It's like sometimes I 811 00:37:08,081 --> 00:37:10,561 Speaker 3: sit there and I'm like, wow, I'm like that was 812 00:37:10,681 --> 00:37:11,641 Speaker 3: really powerful. 813 00:37:11,721 --> 00:37:13,321 Speaker 1: And you know what, I find really sweet too. 814 00:37:13,641 --> 00:37:17,321 Speaker 3: Sometimes if I've had a really like crappy moment before reading, 815 00:37:17,441 --> 00:37:19,801 Speaker 3: or I felt a bit emotional myself, or maybe something's 816 00:37:19,841 --> 00:37:21,681 Speaker 3: just gone wrong and I can't quite get it out 817 00:37:21,721 --> 00:37:23,281 Speaker 3: of my head, but I know I need to because 818 00:37:23,281 --> 00:37:25,641 Speaker 3: I have to read for someone right now. Sometimes I'll 819 00:37:25,641 --> 00:37:27,561 Speaker 3: sit there and I'll start to channel for them, and 820 00:37:27,681 --> 00:37:30,561 Speaker 3: even before I know who the person is, that step forward. 821 00:37:30,961 --> 00:37:33,561 Speaker 3: Sometimes other people's loved ones give me comfort. 822 00:37:33,921 --> 00:37:36,881 Speaker 1: It's really quite sweet. So one time I heard this 823 00:37:37,001 --> 00:37:39,801 Speaker 1: lady and she was like, she's like, it's all right, love. 824 00:37:39,961 --> 00:37:42,961 Speaker 3: She's like, You've got this, don't worry, everything will be better. 825 00:37:43,441 --> 00:37:45,601 Speaker 1: You just relax and breathe right now and we'll get 826 00:37:45,601 --> 00:37:47,361 Speaker 1: through this. One together, and I. 827 00:37:47,281 --> 00:37:49,841 Speaker 2: Was like, oh my god, I'm like, this is somebody's 828 00:37:49,921 --> 00:37:50,321 Speaker 2: love one. 829 00:37:50,361 --> 00:37:51,841 Speaker 1: You don't know me from a bar of. 830 00:37:51,761 --> 00:37:54,161 Speaker 3: Soap, but you are making sure I'm okay before we 831 00:37:54,201 --> 00:37:55,081 Speaker 3: start the reading. 832 00:37:56,161 --> 00:37:56,961 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 833 00:37:58,601 --> 00:38:01,081 Speaker 3: I know they're the most amazing ones, but I'm like, 834 00:38:01,201 --> 00:38:04,001 Speaker 3: you are making me feel like you're my nana right now, 835 00:38:04,121 --> 00:38:06,841 Speaker 3: or you're someone who's like coming in to give me 836 00:38:06,921 --> 00:38:08,521 Speaker 3: what I need so that I can be the. 837 00:38:08,441 --> 00:38:11,041 Speaker 1: Best version of myself for the person that I'm reading for. 838 00:38:11,121 --> 00:38:11,721 Speaker 1: Who you love? 839 00:38:12,321 --> 00:38:14,601 Speaker 2: I love that so much. So how do you like 840 00:38:14,681 --> 00:38:16,960 Speaker 2: set up your reading? Like as in like when you're 841 00:38:16,961 --> 00:38:21,441 Speaker 2: calling people in, is it just like whoever just pops 842 00:38:21,481 --> 00:38:23,921 Speaker 2: in like they're coming through for that person. Have you 843 00:38:23,961 --> 00:38:27,481 Speaker 2: ever been surprised by who's coming or who hasn't come in? 844 00:38:28,041 --> 00:38:30,841 Speaker 3: Yeah. So usually when I start to read for somebody, 845 00:38:31,001 --> 00:38:33,361 Speaker 3: I'll ask them if there's anyone in particular they want 846 00:38:33,401 --> 00:38:35,440 Speaker 3: to connect with. Some people are like, yep, I want 847 00:38:35,441 --> 00:38:37,561 Speaker 3: to connect with a woman or a man or whatever. 848 00:38:37,321 --> 00:38:39,561 Speaker 1: So I kind of go in the direction they're hoping for. 849 00:38:39,801 --> 00:38:42,201 Speaker 3: But sometimes people just leave it open, so we just 850 00:38:42,241 --> 00:38:43,761 Speaker 3: go with whoever comes forward. 851 00:38:43,961 --> 00:38:45,681 Speaker 1: A lot of the time when we go with the flow. 852 00:38:45,921 --> 00:38:49,441 Speaker 3: There are times where people step forward and they're like, 853 00:38:49,721 --> 00:38:52,001 Speaker 3: oh my god, like I haven't thought about that person 854 00:38:52,121 --> 00:38:55,041 Speaker 3: in years, or I haven't seen them for so long, 855 00:38:55,161 --> 00:38:57,321 Speaker 3: or I never met them, And I'm like, well, they're 856 00:38:57,361 --> 00:38:59,481 Speaker 3: coming through so strongly because they want you to know 857 00:38:59,521 --> 00:39:02,401 Speaker 3: that they've been watching in your whole life, and regardless 858 00:39:02,401 --> 00:39:04,521 Speaker 3: of if you've had a physical connection here in the 859 00:39:05,081 --> 00:39:08,241 Speaker 3: physical world, it doesn't take away the sole connection that 860 00:39:08,281 --> 00:39:10,321 Speaker 3: you still have with them and that they know of 861 00:39:10,361 --> 00:39:12,281 Speaker 3: you and there've been a guide to you. So I 862 00:39:12,361 --> 00:39:14,440 Speaker 3: kind of like those moments where we get a little 863 00:39:14,481 --> 00:39:16,520 Speaker 3: bit shocked by who's here. 864 00:39:17,281 --> 00:39:19,481 Speaker 2: Yes, we should probably start to wrap it up, But 865 00:39:19,601 --> 00:39:22,121 Speaker 2: is there anything else? You feel like a loved ones 866 00:39:22,641 --> 00:39:25,681 Speaker 2: well loved ones would love everyone to know that. 867 00:39:25,561 --> 00:39:29,041 Speaker 3: You're never going to disappoint them. Oh, it's a massive 868 00:39:29,081 --> 00:39:31,401 Speaker 3: message I always get. There is not one single day 869 00:39:31,401 --> 00:39:33,841 Speaker 3: that goes by that you disappoint anyone on the other side. 870 00:39:34,001 --> 00:39:34,801 Speaker 1: So you just do you. 871 00:39:35,401 --> 00:39:38,841 Speaker 2: Yes, I love that. That's a perfect way to end. Yes, 872 00:39:39,001 --> 00:39:41,801 Speaker 2: I mean tell us, how how do people book in 873 00:39:41,801 --> 00:39:44,401 Speaker 2: a reading with you? How do they find about about 874 00:39:44,441 --> 00:39:47,881 Speaker 2: the limes? I mean, I mean it's pretty like straightforward. 875 00:39:47,961 --> 00:39:49,161 Speaker 2: You cut a line up and you put it in 876 00:39:49,161 --> 00:39:51,561 Speaker 2: a room. Information. 877 00:39:52,201 --> 00:39:54,601 Speaker 3: Yes, so you can follow me on Instagram or TikTok 878 00:39:54,721 --> 00:39:58,321 Speaker 3: at Jessica Lin Mediumship or my website is Jessica Lynn 879 00:39:58,361 --> 00:40:01,001 Speaker 3: Mediumship dot com or as you said at the start, 880 00:40:01,081 --> 00:40:03,281 Speaker 3: I have my own podcast called Talk Spirit to Me 881 00:40:03,441 --> 00:40:06,161 Speaker 3: on Apple or Spotify, so and check us out. 882 00:40:06,161 --> 00:40:08,000 Speaker 2: Amazing And I have all of those in the show 883 00:40:08,041 --> 00:40:09,041 Speaker 2: notes as well. 884 00:40:09,081 --> 00:40:12,281 Speaker 1: Thank you so much, jess thank you, thank you,