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Speaker 1: Apoche Production.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Secrets of the Underworld.

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Speaker 3: I am Neil the Muscle comments and in this episode

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Speaker 3: I speak with radio host Bianca die put.

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Speaker 4: A fucking orchie bottle up your hinus and I'll pay

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Speaker 4: you five thousand dollars And you go, all.

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Speaker 1: Right, don't should we delete that? No? Delete that.

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Speaker 4: I'll just live with the spare room. Jack, if you've

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Speaker 4: got I'll live in the basement. Quentin Tarantino, Daryl Hannah, Justin, Timberlay,

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Speaker 4: Ricky Martin.

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Speaker 1: I would happily show my gold flaps.

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Speaker 5: We can't use any of that. You're talking about DilOS

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Speaker 5: and atal sex and what the fuck. It's like two

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Speaker 5: minutes we can play.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for coming on, thank you for having you here.

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Speaker 3: But before we get into all this nitty gritty you

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Speaker 3: have no.

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Speaker 2: I want to know about you growing gop fist from school. Family.

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Speaker 2: Let's start from the ground upwards. Okay.

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Speaker 4: I grew up in an interesting situation. My dad came

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Speaker 4: out here as a refugee immigrant. So my grandparents were

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Speaker 4: in Auschwitz, which is a Nazi death camp, and they survived,

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Speaker 4: which is pretty amazing. So they came out to Australia

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Speaker 4: as I want to say refugees, but yeah, they I

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Speaker 4: guess they were. So my dad was from a place

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Speaker 4: called Budgestein in Austria and he came out here, typical thing.

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Speaker 1: He was like Jewish, got to do the law or

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Speaker 1: engineering or what have you.

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Speaker 4: So started to do an engineering course, realized it wasn't

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Speaker 4: for him, was in the local band singing, bought some

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Speaker 4: blue suede shoes, turned into Elvis, became a rock star,

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Speaker 4: much to his Jewish parents like disgrace.

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Speaker 1: Like, oh my god, you should be a lawyer. What

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Speaker 1: are you doing? And he he was doing rock gigs everywhere.

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Speaker 4: I met my mom, who was modeling at the time, and.

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Speaker 1: It was a disaster.

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Speaker 4: They got on again, off again, on again, off again.

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Speaker 4: Mum got pregnant. Didn't know she was modeling in London.

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Speaker 1: They'd broken up.

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Speaker 4: She basically rang my grandparents and said I'm pregnant, I'm

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Speaker 4: gonna have a termination whatever, and they.

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Speaker 1: Were like, no, come back to Australia, have the baby,

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Speaker 1: will help you. So I'm a miracle.

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Speaker 4: I wasn't supposed to be here here. I wasn't supposed

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Speaker 4: to be here, but I'm here. So I had a

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Speaker 4: weird upbringing because my dad got custody of me, which

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Speaker 4: in nineteen seventy six or seventy.

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Speaker 1: Five for a man to get custody of a child

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Speaker 1: was really unusual. So it was weird. But I grew

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Speaker 1: up with him.

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Speaker 4: He was doing late night TV, working with people like

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Speaker 4: Bert Newton Don Lane, So I grew up running around

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Speaker 4: the studios of Channel nine being a little turd apparently

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Speaker 4: esta running into Bert Newton's dressing room and like annoy

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Speaker 4: then be like, can you get this child out?

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Speaker 1: And get her out?

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Speaker 4: So it was really tumultuous, but I didn't know any

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Speaker 4: other way, So it was I was like a bit

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Speaker 4: of a gypsy from a kid like dad, stay with Dad.

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Speaker 4: Had a fight with my stepmom, was a typical teenager.

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Speaker 4: Had a fight with my step mom. She was pregnant

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Speaker 4: and I slapped her, so she slapped me back. We

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Speaker 4: had a big fight. Dad and I had a massive argument.

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Speaker 4: When he got home from work.

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Speaker 1: He goes, go and live with your mother. So I

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Speaker 4: I moved back to Melbourne and finished high school there,

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Speaker 1: Want to say the rest is history, but there's a

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Speaker 1: lot more. But yeah, that was the childhood part.

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Speaker 2: How much cool?

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Speaker 4: Yeah I did, I did, Yeah, I loved it. I

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Speaker 4: was in the musicals, was always.

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Speaker 1: Wanting to be in the choir.

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Speaker 4: And I ended up duxing my high school so I

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Speaker 4: got the top marks in year twelve, which is a

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Speaker 4: fucking absolute mind blow to me because I'm not that smart.

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Speaker 4: But I think it was more that I wanted to

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Speaker 4: prove to my dad, who was saying to.

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Speaker 1: Me, you can't do it, can't do everything.

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Speaker 4: You can't be quiet, captain, drama captain and do well

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Speaker 4: in year twelve, and I was like, fuck you, yeah

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Speaker 1: So I ducks my high school. But I didn't get.

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Speaker 4: of Arts in media journalism. And I deferred, You're not

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Speaker 4: gonna believe this, but it's true because they got offered

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Speaker 4: a job in the circus.

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Speaker 2: Nope, I got it here, You've got it. I got

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Speaker 2: it here, Ringmaster.

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Speaker 2: Really Yeah.

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Speaker 4: It was weird because dad knew Michael Edgley, so the

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Speaker 4: Edgeley family were a very famous circus family in Australia.

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Speaker 1: And he rang me and in typical misogynist style for.

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Speaker 4: The day, you know, and I understand how that all works.

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Speaker 1: But he was like, do you know a guy that

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Speaker 1: could be a ring master of the circus? I was like, oh,

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Speaker 1: do I know a guy? I'll ever think about it.

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Speaker 1: I'll bring you back. And then I remember, like about

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Speaker 4: Me like, did I have to have a guy? Could

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Speaker 4: I said what about me? And Dad went yeah, actually

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Speaker 4: that's a great idea. So he rang Michael and his

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Speaker 4: son Mark Edgeley was running it all and Mark said.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great idea.

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Speaker 4: So I went to Coffs Harbor, did an audition, got

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Speaker 4: the job, and traveled with the Moscow Circus for about

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Speaker 4: eight months all around Australia being the ring master of

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Speaker 4: the circus.

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Speaker 1: It was fucking surreal. It was surreal.

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Speaker 2: Did you enjoy it?

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Speaker 6: Like?

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Speaker 2: Was it good?

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Speaker 1: I loved it. I loved it. But you know, I

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Speaker 1: was twenty one. I turned twenty one on tour.

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Speaker 4: Actually I had my birthday in a little like shitty

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Speaker 4: hotel room in Coffs Harbor on my own going who's

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Speaker 4: this show?

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Speaker 2: Because it's really fun.

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Speaker 1: There's no one here.

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Speaker 4: It's my twenty first but it was an amazing experience.

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Speaker 4: The Russians who had all come out as part of

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Speaker 4: the circus were very much from Moscow in a very

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Speaker 4: So I'm roaming around as this little twenty one year

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Speaker 4: I got so when you travel with the circus, they

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Speaker 1: But that we was shitty, but I didn't care. It

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Speaker 4: I was traveling with a circus. It was exciting. But

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Speaker 4: I got a little cabin. They were like shipping containers

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Speaker 4: have been because that they're quite big. But anyway, it

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Speaker 1: They shoved me right up the back, and I was like, okay, whatever.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't a dava then, so I didn't. And I

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Speaker 4: I was doing my makeup, and I was like, I

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Speaker 4: A group of the I remember it was the Pusanoffs,

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Speaker 4: that in Moscow prostitutes whistle like ladies of glow it.

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Speaker 5: So they were like ah, and I was like what,

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Speaker 5: Oh my god, I'm twenty one.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know any different. I was like whistling to

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Speaker 4: Traveled by bus because they wouldn't fly as because they're

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Speaker 4: tight asses. So we'd travel by bus to town to town,

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Speaker 4: and the Russians, God loved them because this is part

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Speaker 1: Would eat dried, raw kind of fish.

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Speaker 4: You can imagine being in a hot bus traveling from

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Speaker 1: Up the back and I'm on the back going eh.

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Speaker 7: I was like, keep it together, You're the tokenazzie, just

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Speaker 4: And then we got to Mount Isa and I went

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Speaker 4: as a Maryland Monroe impersonator.

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Speaker 2: I've got that too, Yes.

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Speaker 4: So I'd like get hired by like cool them golf

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Speaker 1: God, happy mister president.

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Speaker 4: And like just be a fucking idiot. And I'd get

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Speaker 1: Yes, So I was like, oh, yes, all right, And.

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Speaker 4: Then I just kept doing voiceovers for CFM and annoying them,

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Speaker 2: What made you go to radio? Like, how did you

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Speaker 4: To be an actress, and I always wanted to do

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Speaker 4: And I got hired as one of the first ever

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Speaker 4: My little like my little speaker in my microphone and

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Speaker 4: then i'd plug it in and I'd stand outside like

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Speaker 4: shop Katie's Fashion and go hi guys, and because it.

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Speaker 1: Was pretty quiet, I got bored.

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Speaker 4: So I started to almost do like stand up comedy,

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Speaker 4: like kind of do my own routines but not thought out,

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Speaker 4: just ad libbing, which is kind of turned out to

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Speaker 1: So I'm just standing outside of shop.

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Speaker 4: And I'm kind of doing this funny room ten, like, ladies,

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Speaker 4: your husband's dresses really badly. They've got a really good

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Speaker 4: sale in here, and you might want to sleep with

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Speaker 4: him tonight if he wears his pants. Like I was

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Speaker 4: kind of, I was kind of doing it for myself,

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Speaker 4: and this guy walked past and he goes, you're hilarious.

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Speaker 1: Have you ever thought about radio?

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Speaker 4: And I was like, with this face, I'm joking, but

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Speaker 4: I was like, no, I want to do TV.

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Speaker 1: I want to be an actress. And I was like radio,

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Speaker 1: that's interesting, Okay, maybe radio.

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Speaker 1: There's no one boss.

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Speaker 4: ground and remember that you're talking to real people and

441
00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:31,720
Speaker 4: you still need someone there to go that wasn't your

442
00:20:31,721 --> 00:20:32,281
Speaker 4: best work.

443
00:20:32,441 --> 00:20:34,200
Speaker 1: I think we can do it better, you know, And

444
00:20:34,241 --> 00:20:35,241
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people are.

445
00:20:35,120 --> 00:20:38,440
Speaker 4: Probably too scared to say that because these guys have

446
00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:42,360
Speaker 4: just elevated themselves to I mean, there's been nothing like

447
00:20:42,441 --> 00:20:45,521
Speaker 4: it in the history of radio. It's like even Hami,

448
00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:47,881
Speaker 4: Shenandy and all of those guys. I mean, but they're

449
00:20:47,961 --> 00:20:50,840
Speaker 4: very humble. They're very hard working, humble guys. Very different

450
00:20:51,241 --> 00:20:53,801
Speaker 4: to Colin Jack. Not saying that Colin Jack aren't hardworking

451
00:20:53,801 --> 00:20:57,080
Speaker 4: and humble, but it's just a different beast. These guys

452
00:20:57,080 --> 00:21:00,120
Speaker 4: have kind of rewritten the rules. And what's scary about

453
00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:03,321
Speaker 4: it is their pay is eaten up so much that

454
00:21:03,561 --> 00:21:05,200
Speaker 4: there are so many people out of work now.

455
00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:10,000
Speaker 1: Because they have to pay them. So it's yeah.

456
00:21:09,801 --> 00:21:12,001
Speaker 4: It's not a great it's not an ideal situation for

457
00:21:12,041 --> 00:21:14,561
Speaker 4: the industry, but great for them to.

458
00:21:14,561 --> 00:21:17,360
Speaker 1: Own their twelve million dollar houses in Blue.

459
00:21:19,201 --> 00:21:21,201
Speaker 4: I'll just live in the spare room, Jack, if you've

460
00:21:21,201 --> 00:21:23,001
Speaker 4: got I'll live in the basement if.

461
00:21:22,921 --> 00:21:23,360
Speaker 1: You need me.

462
00:21:23,801 --> 00:21:24,880
Speaker 2: TV. Would you go back to TV?

463
00:21:25,321 --> 00:21:26,721
Speaker 1: Yeah? I love TV.

464
00:21:26,521 --> 00:21:29,201
Speaker 3: Because I did take notes of all the TV shows

465
00:21:29,201 --> 00:21:31,481
Speaker 3: that you've done. So you've done Today Show, Some Rights,

466
00:21:31,801 --> 00:21:40,720
Speaker 3: Morning Show, and Contestants on Contestants on This Celebrities, Dog School.

467
00:21:41,120 --> 00:21:42,281
Speaker 3: I've seen the dog School.

468
00:21:42,481 --> 00:21:45,880
Speaker 4: That was such a fuck up Ready Steady and it

469
00:21:46,001 --> 00:21:46,721
Speaker 4: was a disaster.

470
00:21:46,761 --> 00:21:49,080
Speaker 1: It got booted after six weeks. It was terrible.

471
00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:51,801
Speaker 3: I seen Ready Steady cook, what's that one? Thank god

472
00:21:51,961 --> 00:21:53,881
Speaker 3: you're what? Thank God you're here, you, thank God you're here.

473
00:21:53,961 --> 00:21:54,761
Speaker 1: That was amazing.

474
00:21:55,001 --> 00:21:57,200
Speaker 4: It was big stars on that, like Iffy Box and

475
00:21:57,241 --> 00:21:59,600
Speaker 4: Sean macalifrom whatever. And for me to get on that

476
00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:01,720
Speaker 4: was a big deal because American rosso hadn't even been

477
00:22:01,761 --> 00:22:03,360
Speaker 4: asked to go on that, and I got asked and

478
00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:04,801
Speaker 4: I remember seeing Americ in the corridor.

479
00:22:05,041 --> 00:22:07,000
Speaker 1: I was like, you're going on Thank God you're here.

480
00:22:07,120 --> 00:22:10,201
Speaker 1: And I was like yeah, He's like, oh fuck, nen't

481
00:22:10,201 --> 00:22:10,561
Speaker 1: asked me.

482
00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:12,401
Speaker 4: And then next minute he's on it. And I never

483
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,761
Speaker 4: got on it again. But I nailed it. If you

484
00:22:15,761 --> 00:22:17,561
Speaker 4: YouTube be and god die, thank god you're here, I

485
00:22:18,441 --> 00:22:20,080
Speaker 4: can proudly say now I nailed it.

486
00:22:20,241 --> 00:22:22,321
Speaker 1: Was it was funny, but it's improve and it's scary.

487
00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:24,361
Speaker 2: But I seen the dog show. I've seen that one.

488
00:22:24,281 --> 00:22:25,480
Speaker 1: Dog Show's hilarious.

489
00:22:25,721 --> 00:22:28,360
Speaker 4: Like I feel guilty because I literally adopted a dog

490
00:22:28,481 --> 00:22:31,120
Speaker 4: just for that show and then had to send it

491
00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:32,041
Speaker 4: off to the farm.

492
00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:33,881
Speaker 1: Not like that, not like that.

493
00:22:34,681 --> 00:22:36,360
Speaker 4: No, because they said to me, you want to be

494
00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,440
Speaker 4: in the Celebrity Dog Show and I went, yeah, great,

495
00:22:38,481 --> 00:22:40,120
Speaker 4: And so they had all these celebrities and we were

496
00:22:40,120 --> 00:22:44,561
Speaker 4: all D graders, like celebrity very loosely loose turn and

497
00:22:44,681 --> 00:22:46,480
Speaker 4: Larry Mda was the host and it was hilarious and

498
00:22:46,521 --> 00:22:48,041
Speaker 4: we had to get our dogs to do all these things.

499
00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:51,401
Speaker 1: And my two dogs, my jack Russell and Chihuahua, were

500
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:52,041
Speaker 1: really old.

501
00:22:52,561 --> 00:22:54,360
Speaker 4: So they were like, these dogs are too fucking old

502
00:22:54,360 --> 00:22:57,161
Speaker 4: to do these tricks, like we can't, and I was like.

503
00:22:57,681 --> 00:22:59,561
Speaker 1: I still want to be on the show though, like

504
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:01,240
Speaker 1: you know, it's TV, right, I'm like, this is my

505
00:23:01,321 --> 00:23:01,880
Speaker 1: big break.

506
00:23:02,241 --> 00:23:04,200
Speaker 4: Fuck, it was the last It was so not my

507
00:23:04,241 --> 00:23:06,561
Speaker 4: big break. So they said, all right, well, can you

508
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:08,761
Speaker 4: borrow a dog, like we'll keep you on the show.

509
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:10,401
Speaker 1: Just get a friend's dog and just for the sake

510
00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,521
Speaker 1: of the show, will books and no one had a

511
00:23:12,521 --> 00:23:13,201
Speaker 1: dog I will borrow.

512
00:23:13,281 --> 00:23:17,001
Speaker 4: So I adopted a dog from the RSPCA Bucky, and

513
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:20,201
Speaker 4: the dog chat and pissed and drove my neighbor's nuts

514
00:23:20,201 --> 00:23:21,801
Speaker 4: and my other two dogs hated it. So I had

515
00:23:21,801 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 4: to keep Bucky in the lounge and the two dogs outside.

516
00:23:24,041 --> 00:23:26,241
Speaker 4: When I was living in Newtown, it was a shit fight.

517
00:23:27,041 --> 00:23:29,001
Speaker 4: Did the show got axed and then I fell back,

518
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:30,801
Speaker 4: so I couldn't keep Bucky because Bucky was this.

519
00:23:30,761 --> 00:23:32,721
Speaker 1: Rambunctious, huge cattle dog.

520
00:23:33,360 --> 00:23:35,401
Speaker 4: But I kind of feel okay because when I say

521
00:23:35,441 --> 00:23:37,401
Speaker 4: send it to the farm, I literally got him adopted

522
00:23:37,681 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 4: and he went out and lived on a farm and

523
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:40,921
Speaker 4: had a great life. So I did save him from

524
00:23:40,921 --> 00:23:42,801
Speaker 4: euthanasia whatever you call it.

525
00:23:42,921 --> 00:23:43,081
Speaker 6: But.

526
00:23:44,921 --> 00:23:48,480
Speaker 4: Being euthanized. But it was the show was hilarious. It

527
00:23:48,521 --> 00:23:51,680
Speaker 4: was it was a disaster, but it was fun. It

528
00:23:51,721 --> 00:23:52,640
Speaker 4: was fun to be a part of it.

529
00:23:52,721 --> 00:23:54,960
Speaker 2: But you're a fair what you're a fair Radio or

530
00:23:55,001 --> 00:23:57,241
Speaker 2: TV radio TV.

531
00:23:57,481 --> 00:24:00,001
Speaker 4: As I said, it's like I used to do Beauty

532
00:24:00,001 --> 00:24:02,160
Speaker 4: in the Beast. That was fun because it got to

533
00:24:02,201 --> 00:24:04,721
Speaker 4: be me and give my opinion on stuff. I actually

534
00:24:04,801 --> 00:24:08,241
Speaker 4: had my own show on Arena called Access All Areas,

535
00:24:08,761 --> 00:24:11,721
Speaker 4: and Shari Ramaro really believed in me, and so Bruce

536
00:24:12,041 --> 00:24:13,441
Speaker 4: Brian Walsh from Foxtel.

537
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 1: They gave me my own show. So it was Access

538
00:24:15,721 --> 00:24:16,361
Speaker 1: All Areas with.

539
00:24:16,321 --> 00:24:20,441
Speaker 4: Bianca Die, which looking back now was so fucking huge

540
00:24:20,561 --> 00:24:22,921
Speaker 4: and I wish I had been a little bit more grateful.

541
00:24:22,961 --> 00:24:25,041
Speaker 4: And I was grateful, but because I was so busy

542
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,321
Speaker 4: at Nova and being a want to be rock star

543
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:31,041
Speaker 4: and voiceovers here and going to host Russell Crowe's opening

544
00:24:31,120 --> 00:24:34,121
Speaker 4: there and Kylie Minogue's perfume launch there, and I sound

545
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,400
Speaker 4: like a wanker, and I know because I was, so

546
00:24:36,521 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 4: this show was kind of like, oh yeah, They've given

547
00:24:39,120 --> 00:24:40,841
Speaker 4: him my own show, whereas now I'd be like, oh

548
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:46,361
Speaker 4: my god, m so. I interviewed Quentin Tarantino, Darryl Hannah,

549
00:24:46,561 --> 00:24:51,600
Speaker 4: Justin Timberlay, Ricky, Martin Heath, Ledger rest in Peace.

550
00:24:51,961 --> 00:24:53,641
Speaker 1: Heath was interesting because.

551
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,921
Speaker 4: He hated me, He didn't like media likes, he wasn't

552
00:24:56,921 --> 00:24:59,561
Speaker 4: a good interviewer. He didn't like being in being interviewed

553
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:00,640
Speaker 4: for stuff. He was an artist.

554
00:25:01,120 --> 00:25:03,161
Speaker 1: And I remember the producer came in and said, look,

555
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:04,721
Speaker 1: we've got a bit of a delay da da da

556
00:25:05,201 --> 00:25:05,521
Speaker 1: on some.

557
00:25:05,481 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 4: Coffees and Heath was like, I'll just have the and

558
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,521
Speaker 4: I went, I'll love it, so laute a week so

559
00:25:10,761 --> 00:25:12,120
Speaker 4: late with the extra chocolate on.

560
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:15,160
Speaker 1: Top, and he just looked at me and went, and

561
00:25:15,241 --> 00:25:18,521
Speaker 1: you're fucking serious. And I was like, oh, he hates me.

562
00:25:18,961 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 1: And this is before the interview even started. So I

563
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:24,001
Speaker 1: felt very small before that.

564
00:25:24,360 --> 00:25:27,041
Speaker 4: But that was a show that I was so grateful

565
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,921
Speaker 4: for getting, and it lasted about eight months and then

566
00:25:31,041 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 4: typical bloody the way it just they fucked it off.

567
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:35,880
Speaker 4: And I was like, I'd kill for a show like

568
00:25:35,961 --> 00:25:38,201
Speaker 4: that now. So those kind of shows are cool because

569
00:25:38,201 --> 00:25:40,961
Speaker 4: that was my show, whereas when you're kind of guesting,

570
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:41,761
Speaker 4: it's fun, but.

571
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:43,881
Speaker 1: It's nice to have your own show. But I don't

572
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:45,321
Speaker 1: know if that's going to happen again.

573
00:25:46,360 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 2: Fingers crossed.

574
00:25:47,241 --> 00:25:48,321
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe, who knows.

575
00:25:48,681 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 3: Now you've had a lot of highs and you've had

576
00:25:51,801 --> 00:25:55,400
Speaker 3: a lot of lows, okay, And I did come up

577
00:25:56,441 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 3: on a low that you opened up two on your

578
00:25:59,360 --> 00:26:03,841
Speaker 3: radio show about when you were younger about domestic violence.

579
00:26:04,120 --> 00:26:07,041
Speaker 2: Yes, but you kept quiet above for a while.

580
00:26:07,441 --> 00:26:10,041
Speaker 4: So I had a DV situation when I was really young.

581
00:26:10,561 --> 00:26:12,961
Speaker 4: So I was dating a guy and he was modeling

582
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,440
Speaker 4: and he was overseas, and he would always accuse me

583
00:26:15,561 --> 00:26:16,680
Speaker 4: of doing stuff in radio.

584
00:26:17,281 --> 00:26:18,880
Speaker 1: You're doing this with that person, You're doing that.

585
00:26:19,041 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 4: And I think a lot of the time, when someone's

586
00:26:22,001 --> 00:26:25,761
Speaker 4: pointing the finger that much, well I've learnt now, it's

587
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 4: usually because the fingers pointed back at them because they're

588
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:30,761
Speaker 4: doing something. Because I had never thought of cheating on

589
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:32,640
Speaker 4: him or doing that. I was just in my bubble,

590
00:26:32,761 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 4: happy in love, would never have thought about it. And

591
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 4: that was a horrible night. He came back and you know,

592
00:26:41,041 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 4: there was a knife and he punched me and kicked

593
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,681
Speaker 4: me in the ribs and he was off his head

594
00:26:48,721 --> 00:26:51,641
Speaker 4: from a big night out. I'd come home. He wasn't

595
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:53,360
Speaker 4: meant to be at my apartment because we've broken up,

596
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,561
Speaker 4: but he had a key, so he'd come in. This

597
00:26:55,721 --> 00:26:58,481
Speaker 4: is when I was like twenty two or three or something,

598
00:26:59,120 --> 00:27:02,880
Speaker 4: and it was horrible. But it's weird how you can

599
00:27:02,961 --> 00:27:06,160
Speaker 4: compartmentalize things, because I can't put it behind me and

600
00:27:06,241 --> 00:27:09,160
Speaker 4: went as in for the next few days, Okay, that happened.

601
00:27:09,201 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 1: That was horrible.

602
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,001
Speaker 4: I didn't want to tell anyone because I didn't want

603
00:27:13,041 --> 00:27:15,400
Speaker 4: to scare anyone or worry anyone.

604
00:27:16,241 --> 00:27:18,360
Speaker 1: But I started feeling this weird thing in my ribs.

605
00:27:19,321 --> 00:27:21,801
Speaker 1: Isn't it weird how you can disassociate in these situations?

606
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 4: Because I went to the doctor and I said I

607
00:27:24,281 --> 00:27:28,041
Speaker 4: was really pain in my ribs and he's talking to me.

608
00:27:28,120 --> 00:27:29,721
Speaker 4: He goes, has anything happened to you in the last

609
00:27:29,761 --> 00:27:33,281
Speaker 4: couple of weeks? And I, honestly my brain, because it

610
00:27:33,360 --> 00:27:37,281
Speaker 4: was so traumatizing, had obviously just shut out that I'd

611
00:27:37,321 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 4: had been kicked in the ribs. And I went, no, no, no,

612
00:27:42,681 --> 00:27:44,761
Speaker 4: and he's like, well, it looks like you've had a

613
00:27:44,761 --> 00:27:46,481
Speaker 4: pretty hard hit to the ribs.

614
00:27:46,201 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 1: And one of your ribs is cracked and or something

615
00:27:48,681 --> 00:27:52,601
Speaker 1: like that. And I went, oh. And I remember him

616
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,281
Speaker 1: like writing up something that was like a DV thing,

617
00:27:55,400 --> 00:28:00,160
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh my god, the guy, Oh

618
00:28:00,241 --> 00:28:00,561
Speaker 1: my god.

619
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,241
Speaker 4: Of course, and I didn't want to say anything to

620
00:28:02,360 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 4: him because I was ashamed, embarrassed. I don't know how

621
00:28:04,761 --> 00:28:07,081
Speaker 4: to talk about it, Like I was twenty two I'd never.

622
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,200
Speaker 1: Been talked to about how to talk about that stuff.

623
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 4: So anyway, I never saw him again, obviously, broke up

624
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,561
Speaker 4: with him, and then I had another situation which I

625
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:20,321
Speaker 4: won't go into only because I'm protecting kids involved. If

626
00:28:20,321 --> 00:28:22,561
Speaker 4: there were no kids involved, I would happily out him.

627
00:28:23,041 --> 00:28:25,521
Speaker 4: But the thing is, I also don't want to be

628
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 4: the victim. And what I say by that, what I

629
00:28:28,201 --> 00:28:31,721
Speaker 4: mean by that is because of my profile, if it

630
00:28:31,801 --> 00:28:33,681
Speaker 4: had got out, because a friend of mine's a cop

631
00:28:33,801 --> 00:28:35,761
Speaker 4: and took a whole report and said, this is in

632
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:39,001
Speaker 4: the top draw and if you ever need it, it's there,

633
00:28:39,321 --> 00:28:40,761
Speaker 4: so if you ever need me, And I said, all right,

634
00:28:40,881 --> 00:28:43,641
Speaker 4: just leave it in the top draw. And I never

635
00:28:43,721 --> 00:28:45,881
Speaker 4: needed it because I didn't hear from him again. But

636
00:28:48,201 --> 00:28:51,041
Speaker 4: when you you know, for someone like me with a profile,

637
00:28:51,201 --> 00:28:52,481
Speaker 4: I didn't want to be on the front page of

638
00:28:52,521 --> 00:28:55,241
Speaker 4: the Gold Coast Bulletin as a domestic violence victim.

639
00:28:55,921 --> 00:28:57,761
Speaker 1: Not that I don't want to empower other women, but

640
00:28:57,881 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 1: I didn't know what the fuck to say. At that stage.

641
00:29:00,001 --> 00:29:00,921
Speaker 1: It was all too much.

642
00:29:01,041 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 4: I was in the bubble, trying to heal, trying to protect,

643
00:29:03,841 --> 00:29:06,441
Speaker 4: workout what was next for me. I was also trying

644
00:29:06,481 --> 00:29:11,161
Speaker 4: to protect family of his and mine that had nothing

645
00:29:11,201 --> 00:29:13,121
Speaker 4: to do with it. And I didn't want to be

646
00:29:13,201 --> 00:29:15,601
Speaker 4: that person where I'd be bringing all these other people

647
00:29:15,681 --> 00:29:19,361
Speaker 4: in that didn't ask to be involved, and they would

648
00:29:19,401 --> 00:29:21,361
Speaker 4: be because when you got a profile and you talk

649
00:29:21,401 --> 00:29:24,241
Speaker 4: about it, you know. And then I look at someone

650
00:29:24,321 --> 00:29:26,881
Speaker 4: like Eron Mullin, who I fucking love, and then she

651
00:29:27,561 --> 00:29:29,041
Speaker 4: just came out recently on the front page of the

652
00:29:29,121 --> 00:29:30,841
Speaker 4: Daily Telly and talked about her whole thing, and I was.

653
00:29:30,841 --> 00:29:32,041
Speaker 1: Like, Wow, that's so brave.

654
00:29:32,881 --> 00:29:37,001
Speaker 4: But still now, this person's child is still really young,

655
00:29:37,761 --> 00:29:40,041
Speaker 4: and because I had such a high profile, and because

656
00:29:40,041 --> 00:29:43,041
Speaker 4: so many people listened to the radio show, I felt

657
00:29:43,121 --> 00:29:46,521
Speaker 4: like this kid would get maybe bullied at school or

658
00:29:46,681 --> 00:29:48,801
Speaker 4: get given shit because.

659
00:29:49,081 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 3: Of what had happened with But don't you think, like

660
00:29:53,681 --> 00:29:56,001
Speaker 3: I remember when it happened and you reached out to me,

661
00:29:56,961 --> 00:30:00,241
Speaker 3: and I remember me telling you that he reached out

662
00:30:00,281 --> 00:30:00,681
Speaker 3: to me too.

663
00:30:01,361 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 2: Full story.

664
00:30:02,161 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 1: Ah. That blew my mind because because.

665
00:30:05,961 --> 00:30:07,761
Speaker 2: He was saying that he's the victim, oh.

666
00:30:07,961 --> 00:30:10,001
Speaker 1: I know, and I was like, oh my god, You're

667
00:30:10,041 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 1: not the victim.

668
00:30:11,401 --> 00:30:13,921
Speaker 4: I mean I did something a little bit questionable, yes,

669
00:30:14,201 --> 00:30:16,041
Speaker 4: not that questionable, but we'd kind.

670
00:30:15,921 --> 00:30:16,561
Speaker 1: Of broken up.

671
00:30:16,601 --> 00:30:19,721
Speaker 4: We were on the rocks, very much on the rocks,

672
00:30:19,721 --> 00:30:22,241
Speaker 4: and I did do something a bit questionable, but nothing.

673
00:30:22,041 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 1: That deserved what happened after that.

674
00:30:25,081 --> 00:30:31,121
Speaker 4: And because I'm such an honest person, and when I

675
00:30:31,201 --> 00:30:33,721
Speaker 4: say that, I don't mean innocent or perfect or whatever.

676
00:30:33,841 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 4: I got severe fuck ups and I'm broken just like

677
00:30:37,241 --> 00:30:37,841
Speaker 4: everybody else.

678
00:30:37,921 --> 00:30:39,841
Speaker 1: But it would never.

679
00:30:39,761 --> 00:30:42,521
Speaker 4: Occur to me to do what he did or say

680
00:30:43,961 --> 00:30:46,521
Speaker 4: what he said to someone else about the situation. So

681
00:30:46,721 --> 00:30:49,041
Speaker 4: when I heard, because you weren't the only person, there's

682
00:30:49,041 --> 00:30:52,001
Speaker 4: other people that would come back, and I'm like, I.

683
00:30:52,121 --> 00:30:54,841
Speaker 1: Said, what, That's not how it happened.

684
00:30:55,281 --> 00:30:57,921
Speaker 4: But I felt like I had to defend myself because

685
00:30:57,921 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 4: I was like and then I went, I don't want

686
00:30:59,321 --> 00:31:00,321
Speaker 4: to have to defend myself.

687
00:31:00,441 --> 00:31:02,161
Speaker 1: Fuck you. I don't want to have to defend myself.

688
00:31:02,961 --> 00:31:06,361
Speaker 1: And then if I pressed charges, as I said, I

689
00:31:06,401 --> 00:31:08,881
Speaker 1: didn't want it to go public because I didn't want

690
00:31:10,121 --> 00:31:10,601
Speaker 1: But don't you.

691
00:31:10,681 --> 00:31:13,401
Speaker 2: Think that you let him get it? You've let him

692
00:31:13,401 --> 00:31:13,961
Speaker 2: get away with it.

693
00:31:14,281 --> 00:31:17,401
Speaker 4: Yes, I do feel that I do, and it fucking

694
00:31:17,481 --> 00:31:21,521
Speaker 4: eats at me. But it's like, I don't want him

695
00:31:21,601 --> 00:31:24,921
Speaker 4: to be able to have the narrative over me. It's

696
00:31:24,961 --> 00:31:26,721
Speaker 4: a really fucking hard one new because I don't want

697
00:31:26,801 --> 00:31:32,481
Speaker 4: him because I work in such a volatile industry where

698
00:31:32,641 --> 00:31:36,321
Speaker 4: I didn't want to be the girl that that had

699
00:31:36,361 --> 00:31:38,881
Speaker 4: happened to, and then people didn't want to employ me

700
00:31:39,001 --> 00:31:39,841
Speaker 4: because I'm broken.

701
00:31:40,841 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 1: I know that sounds fucked.

702
00:31:42,081 --> 00:31:44,641
Speaker 3: I think you thinking at the time, that's how I

703
00:31:45,041 --> 00:31:47,561
Speaker 3: That's how I come across you. You you're over thought

704
00:31:48,001 --> 00:31:51,961
Speaker 3: of the situation instead of dealing with it how it

705
00:31:52,001 --> 00:31:54,081
Speaker 3: should have been dealt with. I know, I know.

706
00:31:55,801 --> 00:31:57,641
Speaker 1: In look in retrospect.

707
00:31:58,361 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 4: I reached out to this person's new girlfriend and I

708
00:32:02,321 --> 00:32:05,241
Speaker 4: had a few ones, and I left her a message saying.

709
00:32:05,521 --> 00:32:06,601
Speaker 1: You need to know what you're dealing with.

710
00:32:06,761 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, remember you're telling me that, And she.

711
00:32:09,001 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 4: Didn't believe me at first, and then it like eight

712
00:32:11,041 --> 00:32:15,841
Speaker 4: months later, she rang me and said, you're right. And

713
00:32:16,081 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 4: so I feel like in some ways I helped her

714
00:32:18,801 --> 00:32:23,281
Speaker 4: and saved her from what anymore. But I don't know

715
00:32:23,761 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 4: if it's my job to save everybody else that might

716
00:32:26,801 --> 00:32:30,121
Speaker 4: come into contact with that person or anybody else, because

717
00:32:30,201 --> 00:32:33,041
Speaker 4: by me going public, I have to remember that that

718
00:32:33,281 --> 00:32:36,881
Speaker 4: has ramifications for me, and all I cared about at

719
00:32:36,881 --> 00:32:41,361
Speaker 4: the time was protecting myself, my job, and my sanity.

720
00:32:41,761 --> 00:32:43,361
Speaker 4: Do you know what I mean, like to put yourself

721
00:32:43,401 --> 00:32:45,561
Speaker 4: in there. I'm not saying that there won't come a

722
00:32:45,641 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 4: time where I might not go ahead with that, but

723
00:32:49,601 --> 00:32:52,321
Speaker 4: this person was doing things behind the scenes that were

724
00:32:52,401 --> 00:32:55,881
Speaker 4: so horrible. I didn't want to poke the bear. I

725
00:32:56,041 --> 00:32:58,441
Speaker 4: was like, I just want this to end. I don't

726
00:32:58,441 --> 00:32:59,801
Speaker 4: want to know, I don't want to speak to this person.

727
00:32:59,801 --> 00:33:04,401
Speaker 4: I want to see this person. Yeah, it's a hard one,

728
00:33:05,121 --> 00:33:07,201
Speaker 4: really hard one. Until you're in that position at the time,

729
00:33:08,201 --> 00:33:10,801
Speaker 4: you don't know what to do. And looking back now,

730
00:33:11,601 --> 00:33:13,041
Speaker 4: I don't know if I've done and I don't know

731
00:33:13,121 --> 00:33:16,881
Speaker 4: if I would have done anything differently. But as a

732
00:33:16,881 --> 00:33:18,841
Speaker 4: fifty one year old woman, now, if someone did that

733
00:33:18,921 --> 00:33:22,521
Speaker 4: to me now, holy fuck, no way, Like it would

734
00:33:22,521 --> 00:33:23,641
Speaker 4: be a totally different scenario.

735
00:33:24,321 --> 00:33:26,001
Speaker 1: But that was like sixty years ago when I was

736
00:33:26,041 --> 00:33:29,681
Speaker 1: probably I was a different person then. So that's yeah,

737
00:33:30,081 --> 00:33:33,481
Speaker 1: that's a hard one. That's a hard one, I know,

738
00:33:33,841 --> 00:33:38,041
Speaker 1: and I yeah, there's a lot there. That's a big one.

739
00:33:38,161 --> 00:33:39,841
Speaker 2: That's a big that's a big one, and.

740
00:33:39,881 --> 00:33:42,001
Speaker 1: I'm happy to talk about it. But it's a big one.

741
00:33:42,121 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 2: That's a big one. But you're also known for your

742
00:33:46,041 --> 00:33:47,121
Speaker 2: body positivity.

743
00:33:48,281 --> 00:33:48,801
Speaker 1: Yes and no.

744
00:33:49,201 --> 00:33:52,361
Speaker 2: Yes, yeh, Now, this this is a this is a thing.

745
00:33:52,481 --> 00:33:55,041
Speaker 3: Yeah, I actually came across. I knew you did one,

746
00:33:55,121 --> 00:34:00,281
Speaker 3: but know you did two. You posed new twice Yeah, yeah,

747
00:34:01,001 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 3: and nine and twenty twenty two.

748
00:34:03,281 --> 00:34:05,481
Speaker 1: So there was Black and White magazine where it was

749
00:34:05,521 --> 00:34:06,161
Speaker 1: Cream magazine.

750
00:34:06,161 --> 00:34:07,881
Speaker 4: It was one of those black and white Sydney mags

751
00:34:07,921 --> 00:34:10,481
Speaker 4: where people all got the gear up and the irony

752
00:34:10,561 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 4: of the black yeah, the irony of I think it

753
00:34:12,481 --> 00:34:15,881
Speaker 4: was black and white. The shoot was I was naked

754
00:34:16,121 --> 00:34:20,321
Speaker 4: And the funniest thing was Jackie O's husband, well fiance

755
00:34:20,521 --> 00:34:24,161
Speaker 4: at the time, Lee Henderson, was the photographer's assistant on

756
00:34:24,201 --> 00:34:26,201
Speaker 4: the choote and he saw me Starkers and I just

757
00:34:26,281 --> 00:34:28,521
Speaker 4: remember like because I had to do this like Vargas

758
00:34:28,561 --> 00:34:30,521
Speaker 4: girl thing, like sitting there with covering my boobs and

759
00:34:30,561 --> 00:34:31,241
Speaker 4: my fanny and I was like.

760
00:34:31,241 --> 00:34:31,961
Speaker 6: Oh god, jack he.

761
00:34:33,801 --> 00:34:36,441
Speaker 1: And he's really hot, he's really sexy. And I was

762
00:34:36,481 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 1: like whoa. I was like yeah, look, I don't mind.

763
00:34:41,161 --> 00:34:43,521
Speaker 4: Then I did d did something for Cream, and then

764
00:34:43,601 --> 00:34:47,121
Speaker 4: I did something for Cleo where we were Annealic's bracket

765
00:34:47,201 --> 00:34:48,321
Speaker 4: see God Rest Her Soul.

766
00:34:49,321 --> 00:34:51,721
Speaker 1: Ricky Lee mass Compton there was a few of us.

767
00:34:51,801 --> 00:34:53,761
Speaker 4: We took our clothes off in the name of charity,

768
00:34:53,801 --> 00:34:55,841
Speaker 4: and we just had like a hat in front of

769
00:34:55,881 --> 00:34:56,481
Speaker 4: our fennies.

770
00:34:57,201 --> 00:34:59,321
Speaker 1: Oh god, it was something like that. What was the

771
00:34:59,401 --> 00:34:59,801
Speaker 1: other one?

772
00:35:00,521 --> 00:35:02,561
Speaker 2: The one was in twenty twenty two, Oh.

773
00:35:02,641 --> 00:35:06,041
Speaker 1: God, the Gwynneth pok True one. Yes, that actually went viral.

774
00:35:06,161 --> 00:35:08,121
Speaker 1: I was really surprised by that. That was not my idea.

775
00:35:08,161 --> 00:35:10,401
Speaker 4: That was my boss's idea at CFM. So Gwyneth Poltro

776
00:35:10,441 --> 00:35:13,001
Speaker 4: I would turn fifty and she'd done this photo shoot

777
00:35:13,081 --> 00:35:16,441
Speaker 4: nude where her body was gold and she looked fucking amazing,

778
00:35:17,001 --> 00:35:19,401
Speaker 4: and I was like, that's interesting. I was talking to

779
00:35:19,441 --> 00:35:21,241
Speaker 4: my boss at the time at CFM, and I was like, God,

780
00:35:21,321 --> 00:35:22,241
Speaker 4: we should do something with that.

781
00:35:22,681 --> 00:35:23,441
Speaker 1: She goes, yeah, you.

782
00:35:23,441 --> 00:35:25,121
Speaker 4: Should do a photo shoot, and you should do what

783
00:35:25,201 --> 00:35:27,041
Speaker 4: a real woman looks like at fifty that doesn't have

784
00:35:27,081 --> 00:35:30,601
Speaker 4: a chef and a fucking personal trainer and blah blah blah.

785
00:35:31,121 --> 00:35:32,721
Speaker 4: And I was slightly bigger than I am now, not

786
00:35:32,841 --> 00:35:37,361
Speaker 4: much at twelve fourteen, and I was like, fuck, okay,

787
00:35:37,401 --> 00:35:39,921
Speaker 4: And in radio you can't. You have to strike while

788
00:35:39,921 --> 00:35:41,881
Speaker 4: the iron's hot, right, So these sort of things happen

789
00:35:41,921 --> 00:35:43,801
Speaker 4: and you've got to go for it. So our publicist

790
00:35:43,881 --> 00:35:46,561
Speaker 4: came in and like within two days, next minute, I'm there,

791
00:35:46,841 --> 00:35:48,201
Speaker 4: full body paint in gold.

792
00:35:48,321 --> 00:35:49,001
Speaker 1: You can google it.

793
00:35:49,601 --> 00:35:52,241
Speaker 4: It actually went everywhere. It was on like The Project,

794
00:35:52,281 --> 00:35:53,641
Speaker 4: Channel nine, Channel seven, Channel two.

795
00:35:53,641 --> 00:35:56,321
Speaker 1: It was hilarious. I had no idea that anyone.

796
00:35:56,081 --> 00:35:58,121
Speaker 4: Would give a fuck like I thought, but it was

797
00:35:58,241 --> 00:36:01,561
Speaker 4: good because it was. I did get incredible feedback from

798
00:36:01,601 --> 00:36:04,001
Speaker 4: women because there's me. We've been a cellulart on my

799
00:36:04,081 --> 00:36:07,201
Speaker 4: tips and that, and I'm posing in the exact same

800
00:36:07,281 --> 00:36:10,401
Speaker 4: pose as Gwyneth, but looking a little bit.

801
00:36:10,361 --> 00:36:13,321
Speaker 1: Different, not too different, but a bit different, clearly not Gwyneth.

802
00:36:13,801 --> 00:36:18,281
Speaker 4: And I was really proud of that actually, because sometimes

803
00:36:18,321 --> 00:36:22,361
Speaker 4: in radio you strike gold where you genuinely jump on something.

804
00:36:23,561 --> 00:36:25,601
Speaker 4: And I hate using this work because everyone uses it

805
00:36:25,601 --> 00:36:29,121
Speaker 4: and it's so cliched, but organically so I find in

806
00:36:29,241 --> 00:36:31,641
Speaker 4: radio when you really push and go what can we

807
00:36:31,721 --> 00:36:33,361
Speaker 4: do this week to go viral? How are we going

808
00:36:33,441 --> 00:36:36,081
Speaker 4: to get in the press? It never fucking works right.

809
00:36:36,201 --> 00:36:38,921
Speaker 4: People can sniff the desperation a mile away. But when

810
00:36:38,961 --> 00:36:42,761
Speaker 4: you do something from a place of genuine who gives

811
00:36:42,761 --> 00:36:43,041
Speaker 4: a fuck?

812
00:36:43,081 --> 00:36:44,961
Speaker 1: Who picks this up or not? But let's do this

813
00:36:45,041 --> 00:36:47,321
Speaker 1: because it's great. That's what the Gold thing was. It

814
00:36:47,401 --> 00:36:48,681
Speaker 1: was literally we decided on the.

815
00:36:48,721 --> 00:36:52,401
Speaker 4: Monday, on the by the Wednesday, I'm there getting painted

816
00:36:52,441 --> 00:36:54,961
Speaker 4: fully gold and Channel ten, Channel Night and as I said,

817
00:36:55,001 --> 00:36:56,361
Speaker 4: Channel seven they all came and they.

818
00:36:56,361 --> 00:36:59,441
Speaker 1: Did stories on it, and it was this whole body positivity.

819
00:36:59,521 --> 00:37:01,761
Speaker 4: This is what Gwyneth looks like turning fifty, This is

820
00:37:01,801 --> 00:37:04,961
Speaker 4: Bianka diet turning fifty and six months, just wanting to

821
00:37:05,121 --> 00:37:08,001
Speaker 4: show what a real woman looks like, not shit canning Gwyneth.

822
00:37:08,081 --> 00:37:10,281
Speaker 4: It wasn't meant to be about bagging her because she's

823
00:37:10,321 --> 00:37:13,601
Speaker 4: obviously naturally slim and whatever. That. It was meant to be, well,

824
00:37:13,641 --> 00:37:16,721
Speaker 4: I can pay my body gold too, And it was

825
00:37:16,801 --> 00:37:18,121
Speaker 4: kind of a piss take and a bit of fun,

826
00:37:18,201 --> 00:37:20,481
Speaker 4: but it got picked up and it went everywhere. It

827
00:37:20,561 --> 00:37:23,321
Speaker 4: was incredible pr for the station, which was great because

828
00:37:23,321 --> 00:37:26,241
Speaker 4: that's what you want. More importantly, it was great for

829
00:37:26,401 --> 00:37:30,681
Speaker 4: women to see someone like me going, fuck it, I've

830
00:37:30,681 --> 00:37:32,521
Speaker 4: got CELLI light here, a bit of a chunky bit there,

831
00:37:32,561 --> 00:37:34,241
Speaker 4: my tits are a bit saggy here, whatever, but this

832
00:37:34,361 --> 00:37:37,841
Speaker 4: is what life looks like. And that's okay, love it.

833
00:37:38,121 --> 00:37:40,121
Speaker 1: Who cares. We're going to be dead a long time.

834
00:37:40,321 --> 00:37:43,161
Speaker 1: Fuck the cely Light. Who cares? So it was really

835
00:37:43,241 --> 00:37:44,841
Speaker 1: cool that I went viral because.

836
00:37:46,121 --> 00:37:48,361
Speaker 4: So often when you try, as I said, to do

837
00:37:48,641 --> 00:37:52,961
Speaker 4: pr stunts in radio, the press go oh okay whatever.

838
00:37:53,001 --> 00:37:55,441
Speaker 4: Whereas this just got picked up naturally and we were like,

839
00:37:55,481 --> 00:37:56,561
Speaker 4: holy shit, okay.

840
00:37:56,801 --> 00:37:58,361
Speaker 1: So it was cool. That was really fun.

841
00:37:59,121 --> 00:38:01,921
Speaker 4: It was embarrassing though, because my fanny was old. Well

842
00:38:02,041 --> 00:38:03,641
Speaker 4: you know, I was having to get gold pain out

843
00:38:03,641 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 4: of my fanny for weeks.

844
00:38:07,921 --> 00:38:11,121
Speaker 1: I was like, there is golden flaps that don't exist.

845
00:38:12,121 --> 00:38:12,681
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

846
00:38:12,841 --> 00:38:14,201
Speaker 1: It was funny. It was funny.

847
00:38:15,401 --> 00:38:18,281
Speaker 2: Any regrets, Oh god, there's so many.

848
00:38:18,961 --> 00:38:21,961
Speaker 4: I also try and think, don't think of life in

849
00:38:22,401 --> 00:38:25,921
Speaker 4: the sense of regretting, because you know, the old Buddhism

850
00:38:26,001 --> 00:38:27,961
Speaker 4: thing is that everything has led you to where you

851
00:38:28,041 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 4: are now and that's where you're supposed to be, which

852
00:38:31,001 --> 00:38:32,721
Speaker 4: I don't know if that's such a fucking great spot

853
00:38:32,841 --> 00:38:33,121
Speaker 4: right now.

854
00:38:33,281 --> 00:38:35,641
Speaker 1: So what did I do wrong? No, I'm joking, but

855
00:38:36,521 --> 00:38:37,481
Speaker 1: there's heaps of regrets.

856
00:38:37,481 --> 00:38:39,641
Speaker 4: I should never have asked John Mayer about Jennifer love

857
00:38:39,681 --> 00:38:41,161
Speaker 4: Hewitt because he walked out of the interview.

858
00:38:42,641 --> 00:38:44,761
Speaker 1: You know, like in interviews we get lists of like

859
00:38:44,921 --> 00:38:47,521
Speaker 1: what not to ask an artist. And I learned very

860
00:38:47,601 --> 00:38:49,601
Speaker 1: quickly that what you do in radio is you ask

861
00:38:49,641 --> 00:38:51,361
Speaker 1: all the really cool, suck up questions.

862
00:38:51,121 --> 00:38:52,881
Speaker 4: About how great the album is and the movie and

863
00:38:52,961 --> 00:38:56,121
Speaker 4: whatever alone, and then at the end you ask the

864
00:38:56,361 --> 00:38:58,561
Speaker 4: question that you know they're going to maybe go fuck off,

865
00:38:58,601 --> 00:39:00,721
Speaker 4: put the headphones off, and walk out. But I learned

866
00:39:00,721 --> 00:39:03,001
Speaker 4: that the hard way because, like two questions in, I

867
00:39:03,081 --> 00:39:05,161
Speaker 4: wasn't meant to ask John Mayer about Jennifer Love hught it.

868
00:39:05,801 --> 00:39:07,561
Speaker 1: I thought, how can I ask him about it without

869
00:39:07,601 --> 00:39:08,801
Speaker 1: directly asking him about it?

870
00:39:09,281 --> 00:39:11,641
Speaker 4: So I said, oh, I saw on them in the

871
00:39:11,681 --> 00:39:14,481
Speaker 4: paper that you love Tim Tams. He was like, yeah, yeah,

872
00:39:14,481 --> 00:39:16,081
Speaker 4: and I'm like, will you take back a packet of

873
00:39:16,161 --> 00:39:17,161
Speaker 4: Tim Tams for general?

874
00:39:17,241 --> 00:39:20,441
Speaker 1: I love Hewitt? And he just went out, put the

875
00:39:20,521 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 1: headphones down and walked out. And I was like, okay, bye.

876
00:39:23,201 --> 00:39:26,041
Speaker 4: Whereas now that would go viral, right, That'd be you

877
00:39:26,201 --> 00:39:28,561
Speaker 4: want someone to walk out, put the headphones down, That's

878
00:39:28,601 --> 00:39:29,521
Speaker 4: what people will click on.

879
00:39:29,681 --> 00:39:32,201
Speaker 1: But at the time my PD came in and went,

880
00:39:32,241 --> 00:39:33,161
Speaker 1: what the fuck happened?

881
00:39:33,201 --> 00:39:35,201
Speaker 4: There's how are we going to do a one hour

882
00:39:35,241 --> 00:39:37,281
Speaker 4: special with John Mayer? You've got two minutes and I'm

883
00:39:37,361 --> 00:39:40,441
Speaker 4: like you.

884
00:39:41,201 --> 00:39:43,281
Speaker 1: So, I mean, that's a silly regret. But I don't know.

885
00:39:43,281 --> 00:39:48,881
Speaker 1: I have heaps of regrets, mainly men, mainly men.

886
00:39:49,681 --> 00:39:52,161
Speaker 4: There's heaps of regrets only because i've been you know,

887
00:39:52,241 --> 00:39:54,481
Speaker 4: my dad always said to me, men don't want to

888
00:39:54,521 --> 00:39:56,361
Speaker 4: be with women like you because you're outspoken and you've

889
00:39:56,361 --> 00:39:58,721
Speaker 4: got hotspur and men just want women that can do

890
00:39:58,841 --> 00:39:59,321
Speaker 4: what they're told.

891
00:39:59,401 --> 00:40:01,321
Speaker 1: And I'm like, that's not me.

892
00:40:01,921 --> 00:40:03,761
Speaker 4: I'm not going to just do what I'm told. Fuck that,

893
00:40:03,841 --> 00:40:08,601
Speaker 4: I'm feisty. I'm bullying feisty, not quite like Blender. You're

894
00:40:08,641 --> 00:40:12,961
Speaker 4: making more money if I was like Blender. Yeah, we

895
00:40:13,081 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 4: thinking about only fans.

896
00:40:14,001 --> 00:40:17,041
Speaker 1: But no, I can't do it. I couldn't do it. Well,

897
00:40:17,241 --> 00:40:18,841
Speaker 1: apparently there's a wiki feet paidient.

898
00:40:18,921 --> 00:40:20,761
Speaker 3: If you can get your fucking gear off for fucking

899
00:40:20,801 --> 00:40:24,961
Speaker 3: these magazines, you can show your gold flaps on the.

900
00:40:28,161 --> 00:40:31,401
Speaker 1: I would happily show my gold flaps this thing. This

901
00:40:31,561 --> 00:40:32,041
Speaker 1: is the thing though.

902
00:40:32,081 --> 00:40:34,521
Speaker 4: What happens is apparently you start out where you're just

903
00:40:34,561 --> 00:40:38,041
Speaker 4: showing sexy photos, but then people will message you privately

904
00:40:38,241 --> 00:40:41,961
Speaker 4: knowing can you like put a fucking orchie bottle up

905
00:40:42,001 --> 00:40:44,041
Speaker 4: your ainus and I'll pay you five thousand dollars and.

906
00:40:44,041 --> 00:40:47,921
Speaker 1: You go, how much loop have we got, Let's go.

907
00:40:48,481 --> 00:40:51,681
Speaker 4: So I feel like I would happily do only fans

908
00:40:51,761 --> 00:40:54,721
Speaker 4: in some fun way, but I just I've seen people

909
00:40:54,801 --> 00:40:56,641
Speaker 4: go down the rabbit hole where it starts out all

910
00:40:56,681 --> 00:40:59,641
Speaker 4: innocent and then next minute they're fucking married men and

911
00:40:59,721 --> 00:41:00,161
Speaker 4: it's all.

912
00:41:00,241 --> 00:41:04,841
Speaker 1: Fucking and I'm like, I don't know, I don't know,

913
00:41:05,081 --> 00:41:08,081
Speaker 1: but I've got another guy. You should interview him. Actually

914
00:41:08,081 --> 00:41:08,681
Speaker 1: he's really cool.

915
00:41:08,881 --> 00:41:10,601
Speaker 4: I won't say his name now just in case, but

916
00:41:11,121 --> 00:41:13,801
Speaker 4: he's one of the top male escorts in the country, okay,

917
00:41:14,601 --> 00:41:16,681
Speaker 4: and he has been messaging me saying.

918
00:41:16,561 --> 00:41:17,681
Speaker 2: Oh, I wants to get in your pants.

919
00:41:17,881 --> 00:41:23,281
Speaker 1: No paying for it. I've never paid. Actually that's not true.

920
00:41:23,321 --> 00:41:24,241
Speaker 1: There was one other bigus.

921
00:41:24,281 --> 00:41:26,001
Speaker 4: I did pay for it, but I was so fucked

922
00:41:26,041 --> 00:41:27,481
Speaker 4: up I didn't end up having sex with him. I

923
00:41:27,521 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 4: was like, that's the easiest eight hundred you've ever earned,

924
00:41:29,841 --> 00:41:30,401
Speaker 4: and he's.

925
00:41:30,281 --> 00:41:31,201
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, it was.

926
00:41:31,681 --> 00:41:32,321
Speaker 1: I was so drunk.

927
00:41:32,321 --> 00:41:35,561
Speaker 4: I was like I cant sack there, take the money

928
00:41:35,801 --> 00:41:37,361
Speaker 4: and we just sat and talked and I was like, wow,

929
00:41:37,361 --> 00:41:38,841
Speaker 4: youre s doing eight hundred dollars for talking to me.

930
00:41:38,921 --> 00:41:42,681
Speaker 4: He's like, I know you sure I'm like, ah, it

931
00:41:42,801 --> 00:41:45,001
Speaker 4: was a long time ago, but he said to me,

932
00:41:46,201 --> 00:41:48,281
Speaker 4: you could make a lot of money doing high class stuff.

933
00:41:48,281 --> 00:41:52,281
Speaker 1: And I'm like, fuck, but I don't know, Like I

934
00:41:52,521 --> 00:41:53,561
Speaker 1: just don't know what you.

935
00:41:53,561 --> 00:41:55,721
Speaker 2: Think about getting in the industry for what escorn?

936
00:41:55,921 --> 00:42:01,001
Speaker 1: Yeah, no way, well not just the companionship there. I

937
00:42:01,281 --> 00:42:03,521
Speaker 1: know this isn't explosive. No.

938
00:42:03,761 --> 00:42:05,321
Speaker 4: What I meant was he was saying to me, fock

939
00:42:05,401 --> 00:42:07,521
Speaker 4: Radiom go escort. Well, he was saying to me, you

940
00:42:07,641 --> 00:42:09,921
Speaker 4: could make like five grand in a weekend to go

941
00:42:10,001 --> 00:42:13,561
Speaker 4: down and be a company. A guy in Melbourne who's

942
00:42:13,601 --> 00:42:15,761
Speaker 4: just a bit lonely, he's in his sixties, his wife's

943
00:42:15,801 --> 00:42:18,161
Speaker 4: passed away, and you don't have to have sex, And

944
00:42:18,241 --> 00:42:21,721
Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, shit. I thought about it, and then

945
00:42:21,721 --> 00:42:23,841
Speaker 4: I was like, oh, I don't know, Like how do

946
00:42:23,921 --> 00:42:27,881
Speaker 4: you pull your tax in? Guy went and saw wicked,

947
00:42:28,521 --> 00:42:31,681
Speaker 4: went to Pellegreenies, had a coffee and I've charged him

948
00:42:31,721 --> 00:42:32,841
Speaker 4: ten grand, Like I don't know.

949
00:42:32,921 --> 00:42:36,441
Speaker 1: I don't know, Like I've got friends that work in

950
00:42:36,521 --> 00:42:37,041
Speaker 1: that industry.

951
00:42:37,401 --> 00:42:37,841
Speaker 3: I know you do.

952
00:42:38,641 --> 00:42:40,721
Speaker 1: I know what you do, but I just don't know.

953
00:42:40,841 --> 00:42:42,521
Speaker 4: Because I said to this one friend, who does it,

954
00:42:43,081 --> 00:42:44,681
Speaker 4: how do you have sex with the guy if you

955
00:42:44,801 --> 00:42:47,321
Speaker 4: walk in and you're like totally grossed out by him,

956
00:42:47,401 --> 00:42:50,361
Speaker 4: or is a fuck Wait, it's more for me, Like

957
00:42:50,441 --> 00:42:52,161
Speaker 4: I've had sex with plenty of ugly men.

958
00:42:52,841 --> 00:42:54,601
Speaker 2: You know who you are, you have to think of them.

959
00:42:55,641 --> 00:42:58,241
Speaker 1: Yes, well that's what she said. She said, I find

960
00:42:58,321 --> 00:42:59,401
Speaker 1: something beautiful in them.

961
00:42:59,441 --> 00:43:01,921
Speaker 4: So if I walk into the room and I'm physically

962
00:43:02,041 --> 00:43:04,681
Speaker 4: repulsed by this person and I know they're going to

963
00:43:04,721 --> 00:43:08,961
Speaker 4: have a Mellie dick, I'm like, Okay, I'm going to

964
00:43:09,001 --> 00:43:10,841
Speaker 4: find something about this person that I really like. So

965
00:43:10,921 --> 00:43:13,961
Speaker 4: she'd say he might have beautiful eyes, he might love

966
00:43:14,041 --> 00:43:16,481
Speaker 4: his kids, he might have so she would hone in

967
00:43:16,561 --> 00:43:18,561
Speaker 4: on something that she thought was really beautiful about the

968
00:43:18,601 --> 00:43:21,761
Speaker 4: person and that would turn her on, and then she

969
00:43:21,801 --> 00:43:22,641
Speaker 4: could have sex with them.

970
00:43:22,961 --> 00:43:25,201
Speaker 1: And I was like, I don't know, I don't know

971
00:43:25,281 --> 00:43:26,881
Speaker 1: if I could do that. And then I think of

972
00:43:26,961 --> 00:43:27,401
Speaker 1: all the men.

973
00:43:27,361 --> 00:43:30,001
Speaker 4: That I have had sex with that were really unattractive

974
00:43:30,041 --> 00:43:31,721
Speaker 4: when I was really drunk, and if they'd left two

975
00:43:31,761 --> 00:43:33,161
Speaker 4: grand on the fucking dressing.

976
00:43:32,961 --> 00:43:34,361
Speaker 1: Table, I would have been really happy.

977
00:43:38,121 --> 00:43:40,721
Speaker 4: Like I'm talking back in the day when I was naughty.

978
00:43:40,801 --> 00:43:42,281
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm still naughty sometimes, but you know what

979
00:43:42,321 --> 00:43:44,561
Speaker 4: I mean, but yeah, I don't know. I don't think

980
00:43:44,601 --> 00:43:46,321
Speaker 4: I could do it. My family would never speak to

981
00:43:46,361 --> 00:43:49,641
Speaker 4: me again, I don't know. They don't anyway really.

982
00:43:51,401 --> 00:43:51,921
Speaker 2: Exclusive.

983
00:43:52,441 --> 00:43:56,441
Speaker 1: I feel like it is, but I'll see its sex me,

984
00:43:58,441 --> 00:44:01,241
Speaker 1: But I just I feel like it's not something I wouldn't.

985
00:44:01,281 --> 00:44:02,801
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't look down on it. I think.

986
00:44:02,801 --> 00:44:05,481
Speaker 4: I mean, it's the oldest profession in the world world, right,

987
00:44:05,641 --> 00:44:08,121
Speaker 4: Like that's prostitution and selling your body.

988
00:44:09,761 --> 00:44:12,081
Speaker 2: No my gold flaps.

989
00:44:14,521 --> 00:44:17,401
Speaker 4: But there's also a big marketing companionship. So this particular

990
00:44:17,481 --> 00:44:20,801
Speaker 4: guy what he does and I find fascinating and really beautiful.

991
00:44:21,361 --> 00:44:23,561
Speaker 4: We actually did an interview with him and I thought

992
00:44:23,601 --> 00:44:26,401
Speaker 4: it was really sweet because forget the sex part.

993
00:44:26,641 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 1: That's kind of the easy bit. That's the well he says,

994
00:44:31,001 --> 00:44:31,641
Speaker 1: that's the easy bit.

995
00:44:31,681 --> 00:44:36,121
Speaker 4: He said, he is booked mainly as someone that is

996
00:44:36,641 --> 00:44:39,321
Speaker 4: a companion. So there are a lot of women who

997
00:44:39,401 --> 00:44:44,921
Speaker 4: were divorced, widowed, or just lost their you know, they

998
00:44:45,001 --> 00:44:47,281
Speaker 4: feel unsexy because their husband's are fucking the twenty three

999
00:44:47,361 --> 00:44:49,681
Speaker 4: year old secretary and they're sixty and their tits are sagging,

1000
00:44:49,721 --> 00:44:52,041
Speaker 4: and they feel like shit. They just want their self

1001
00:44:52,161 --> 00:44:55,521
Speaker 4: esteem boosted up. So he gets paid to go and

1002
00:44:55,601 --> 00:44:58,401
Speaker 4: join women for like a weekend at Ularu or a

1003
00:44:58,481 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 4: weekend on the Hayman Island or whatever, and the sex

1004
00:45:01,601 --> 00:45:06,161
Speaker 4: is often a very much secondary, third fourth ory thing.

1005
00:45:06,201 --> 00:45:09,321
Speaker 4: It's more about he sits there, has dinner with them,

1006
00:45:09,841 --> 00:45:13,121
Speaker 4: talks to them, makes them feel validated, cares about them

1007
00:45:13,201 --> 00:45:15,161
Speaker 4: like their husbands have had twenty years of a husband

1008
00:45:15,481 --> 00:45:18,681
Speaker 4: not giving a fuck, just cook dinner, take kids to school,

1009
00:45:18,881 --> 00:45:22,361
Speaker 4: don't care whatever. Then they've got this beautiful guy and

1010
00:45:22,441 --> 00:45:24,561
Speaker 4: he does seem like I love the guy who sits

1011
00:45:24,601 --> 00:45:27,481
Speaker 4: there and cares about what they want to talk about.

1012
00:45:28,081 --> 00:45:31,681
Speaker 4: Will escort them to plays in theater that their husbands never.

1013
00:45:31,641 --> 00:45:32,481
Speaker 1: Wanted to go to them with.

1014
00:45:33,121 --> 00:45:34,841
Speaker 4: And he's like, I get paid for that, and these

1015
00:45:34,881 --> 00:45:38,201
Speaker 4: women feel amazing, and he goes seven times out of ten,

1016
00:45:38,241 --> 00:45:39,641
Speaker 4: they actually don't want to have sex.

1017
00:45:40,241 --> 00:45:42,761
Speaker 1: They just want my company. And I'm like, that's so

1018
00:45:43,121 --> 00:45:46,001
Speaker 1: sad but beautiful. So I don't know if I could do.

1019
00:45:46,081 --> 00:45:48,401
Speaker 4: Some dude started talking about footy, I'll be like, oh whatever,

1020
00:45:48,441 --> 00:45:49,281
Speaker 4: do just let me suck you.

1021
00:45:49,721 --> 00:45:51,921
Speaker 3: I don't think it's going to be the same giveaway around.

1022
00:45:52,721 --> 00:45:55,921
Speaker 3: I think if you're going to be like the company

1023
00:45:56,081 --> 00:45:58,801
Speaker 3: escort company. The guys aren't going to be there to talk.

1024
00:45:59,001 --> 00:46:03,121
Speaker 1: No, no, no, that's teachyund are we talking?

1025
00:46:03,161 --> 00:46:07,441
Speaker 4: They'll be like, when are we having sex? Hurry up,

1026
00:46:08,081 --> 00:46:09,161
Speaker 4: I've only got two hours.

1027
00:46:09,561 --> 00:46:09,801
Speaker 1: Let's go.

1028
00:46:10,801 --> 00:46:13,921
Speaker 2: So before we go, describe yourself in one word.

1029
00:46:15,121 --> 00:46:16,801
Speaker 1: Oh god, that's really hard.

1030
00:46:18,681 --> 00:46:25,241
Speaker 4: Hopeful, hopeful as in I have faith, not religious faith,

1031
00:46:26,001 --> 00:46:28,641
Speaker 4: faith in that everything will work out the way it's

1032
00:46:28,641 --> 00:46:29,121
Speaker 4: supposed to do.

1033
00:46:29,921 --> 00:46:31,841
Speaker 1: It's very hard to sum yourself up in one word.

1034
00:46:32,321 --> 00:46:35,001
Speaker 1: It's really hard. Do people all struggle with it?

1035
00:46:35,601 --> 00:46:36,081
Speaker 4: I bet they do.

1036
00:46:36,961 --> 00:46:37,601
Speaker 2: Thank you for coming on?

1037
00:46:37,801 --> 00:46:38,081
Speaker 4: Is that it?

1038
00:46:38,721 --> 00:46:39,161
Speaker 3: Oh? My god?

1039
00:46:39,201 --> 00:46:40,121
Speaker 1: I have not shut up.

1040
00:46:40,481 --> 00:46:40,921
Speaker 4: I have not.

1041
00:46:42,761 --> 00:46:43,721
Speaker 2: I want to shut up.

1042
00:46:43,761 --> 00:46:46,441
Speaker 1: That's the good thing. I know. I know. But I

1043
00:46:46,521 --> 00:46:47,361
Speaker 1: hope you got what you wanted.

1044
00:46:47,401 --> 00:46:49,601
Speaker 2: I did get what I wanted to an exclusive that

1045
00:46:49,601 --> 00:46:50,401
Speaker 2: you're going to be an escort.

1046
00:46:52,601 --> 00:46:52,921
Speaker 4: Let me know.

1047
00:46:53,041 --> 00:46:54,361
Speaker 1: Be diet gmail dot com.