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Speaker 1: On scoring ms Ostrodia.

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Speaker 2: This is the winder Panety Show.

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Speaker 3: Good evening and welcome to the Rita Panety Show. Coming

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Speaker 3: up tonight. Strong Conservatives back in shadow cabinet as Angus

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Speaker 3: Taylor unveils his way from Bench. We will go through

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Speaker 3: the appointments with Daniel Wilde and Michael Danby.

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Speaker 4: Next.

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Speaker 3: Further revelations about a transgender inflain who prison authorities moved

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Speaker 3: to a female prison where he sexually assaulted a rape survivor.

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Speaker 3: Stefaniebastian joins me with the latest on that shocking case.

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Speaker 3: Hillary Clinton's lies about her and her husband's links with

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Speaker 3: Jeffrey Epstein and Glayne Maxwell expose.

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Speaker 4: I'll go through that with Alex.

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Speaker 3: Stein and more on the Epstein files with Michael Loftus

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Speaker 3: as we examined implications for the Royal family and Left

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Speaker 3: is losing. It features this demure lady making a salient

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Speaker 3: point in a calm and measured way.

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Speaker 5: God, God, Damn, God, God.

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Speaker 4: Go but first.

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Speaker 3: Angus Taylor has unveiled his new shadow front bench, which

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Speaker 3: he says will be focused on cutting waste, boosting productivity,

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Speaker 3: and deregulating the economy. Some of the big changes include

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Speaker 3: the appointment of Tim Wilson as Shadow Treasurer, James Patterson

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Speaker 3: shifting to Defense, Jane Hume in industrial relations, productivity and deregulation,

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Speaker 3: and a number of strong Conservatives up back in shadow

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Speaker 3: cabinet with Andrew Hasty in the industry portfolio, Just Enterprise

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Speaker 3: now the Shadow Minister for Small Business, and Sarah Henderson

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Speaker 3: has communications. Tim Wilson said the coalition's economic agenda would

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Speaker 3: be centered on reward for effort and keeping taxes low.

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Speaker 3: He also took direct aim at Treasurer Jim Chalmers for

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Speaker 3: his push to amend the capital gains tax discount.

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Speaker 4: Have a listen.

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Speaker 6: We need to unleash the ingenuity and potential of the

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Speaker 6: Australian community and creating a pathway for jobs in the

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Speaker 6: private sector. That requires private investment. That means people need

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Speaker 6: to be confident. And there is one sure fireway to

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Speaker 6: kill private investment, and that is by adding new taxes

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Speaker 6: and creating uncertainty on the Australian economy. So Jim Chalmers

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Speaker 6: floated new housing tax is directly going to harm investment

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Speaker 6: in the sector where one we need more houses, but

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Speaker 6: two in creating the jobs that we need and the

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Speaker 6: skills we need towards more houses.

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Speaker 3: Let's bring in the panel joining me now as former

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Speaker 3: Labor MP Michael Danby and Deputy Executive director of this

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Speaker 3: Suite of Public Affairs Daniel Wilde. Dan I'll start with you.

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Speaker 3: How do you see this reshuffle. We've got plenty of

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Speaker 3: moderates still in shadow cabinet, but some bold choices there

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Speaker 3: from angers Taylor.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's a step in the right direction.

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Speaker 7: There's some heavy hitters that have been returned to cabinet,

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Speaker 7: as you rightly or shadow cabinet, I should say, as

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Speaker 7: you rightly mentioned, so it is certainly a as I say,

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Speaker 7: step in the right direction. I think the key thing

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Speaker 7: for the Liberal Party and the coalition is not just

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Speaker 7: the people who are there or even the policies that

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Speaker 7: they have. It's whether or not the community is listening

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Speaker 7: when the Liberal Party talks.

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Speaker 1: That is the big question that we don't have an

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Speaker 1: answer to yet.

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Speaker 7: It is quite possible that the Party could have the

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Speaker 7: best policies in the world with the best shadow cabinet

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Speaker 7: in the world. But we've seen what's happened to the

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Speaker 7: Tories in the UK, where they have a lot of

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Speaker 7: good policies on net zero on immigration, for example, But

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Speaker 7: a lot of people in the UK have said, well,

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Speaker 7: you guys had over ten years and you botched it,

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Speaker 7: and so we're all voting for reform. That could be

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Speaker 7: the case here, and so I just wonder whether that

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Speaker 7: whether that I guess depth of the trust crisis in

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Speaker 7: the Liberal Party has been recognized, because if people aren't listening,

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Speaker 7: it doesn't matter what you're saying. So yeah, step in

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Speaker 7: the right direction, but let's see whether the public has

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Speaker 3: Still, how do you, said, Michael, is Angus Taylor the

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Speaker 3: man to do something about that crisis in trust that

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Speaker 3: it seems to exist with so many in the Liberal

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Speaker 3: base looking elsewhere. They are looking at one nation, they're

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Speaker 3: looking at some other minor parties, independence, and they've stopped listening.

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Speaker 8: Well, you and Daniel both write the drift to one

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Speaker 8: nation may have gone too far. So what happens with

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Speaker 8: this by election in Pharaoh is poor old Angus says,

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Speaker 8: to come along and get more than one nation or

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Speaker 8: the independent in a rural and regional electric where Barnaby

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Speaker 8: Joyce's campaigning against him very difficult. So it could be

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Speaker 8: denigrated by the first bi election he has to face. However,

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Speaker 8: he has got some good people who's put forward. I

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Speaker 8: don't think it's on the basis of moderate or conservative reader.

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Speaker 8: I think it's on the basis of cut through. Like

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Speaker 8: Tim Wilson is a very good cut through politician to

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Speaker 8: win that seat, just as next door to my old

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Speaker 8: seat in Goldstein against the Teal was so favored by

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Speaker 8: the ABC and had so much.

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Speaker 4: Of Daniel money.

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Speaker 3: It was the only one who defeated a Till, wasn't

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Speaker 3: they would work against him in those Till electorates, but

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Speaker 3: he prevailed. Talking about politicians who have cut through, just

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Speaker 3: Enterprice is back. She has been I think probably the

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Speaker 3: most successful liberal woman in having cut through. Her impact

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Speaker 3: on the Voice was incredible. And Andrew Hasty is back,

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Speaker 3: and he's also been given the position of a deputy

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Speaker 3: leader in the House of Representatives.

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Speaker 8: Yes, well, I think he'll be very good at that.

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Speaker 8: But there's still a couple of puzzles in there. I

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Speaker 8: can't understand why Ted O'Brien is the foreign spokesman. It

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Speaker 8: maybe because the former leader in the Senate didn't want

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Speaker 8: to keep the job. But I think Claire Chandler's very good.

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Speaker 1: Yes, she's really cut through.

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Speaker 8: She's from Tasmania and it's hard to criticize her as

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Speaker 8: a young female from a regional place too, so she's

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Speaker 8: got all of the categories.

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Speaker 3: That well, it doesn't seem to matter Dad if a

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Speaker 3: female could take every diversity box. But if she's conservative,

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Speaker 3: they will come for her. We've seen that over and

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Speaker 3: over again. I want to say, I do worry about

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Speaker 3: some of these moderate stan I mean, how can you

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Speaker 3: have someone like Julie and Lisa in the Indigenous portfolio

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Speaker 3: after he backed the Voice, the dangerous and divisive Voice.

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Speaker 7: I don't get it, But you know, we'll wait and

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Speaker 7: see what he has to offer in the portfolio responsibilities

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Speaker 7: that he's been given. I think a broader point here is,

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Speaker 7: going to be needed? If it's sort of I mean

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Speaker 7: it's okay to sort of criticize the government on a

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Speaker 7: day to day basis, and all of that's important, but

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Speaker 7: I really think that if not now, then when you're

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Speaker 7: sort of existential crisis, bells ringing.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 7: I just wonder whether this is a steady as she

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I've got an open mind to it.

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Speaker 7: But the real thing here is not so much sort

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Speaker 7: of conservative moderates and so forth. It's between those who

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Speaker 7: understand the moment.

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Speaker 1: That they're in.

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Speaker 7: And it's not just existential for the Liberal Party, it's

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Speaker 7: for our country. I mean, our country can't keep going

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Speaker 7: the way it's going, with our economy, with our society.

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Speaker 7: So it's going to have to be some brave, bold

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Speaker 7: risk taking to get the Liberal Party out of its position,

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Speaker 7: but also to help get our country out of the

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Speaker 3: I write in the Herald Sun today that we need

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Speaker 3: to see a policy from them, an immigration policy with

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Speaker 3: some rastic cuts in the numbers. They can't just talk

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Speaker 3: about values and the door is closed on those who

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Speaker 3: hate this country. That's all well and good, I agree

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Speaker 3: with that, but we need to see a key differentiation

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Speaker 3: with Labor on a policy that so many Australians care

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Speaker 3: about and both major parties have ignored. So it'll be

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Speaker 3: very interesting to see what that policy looks like when

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Speaker 3: it is released. Let's move on to former Reserve Bank

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Speaker 3: Governor Philip Blow, who slammed the federal government's cost of

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Speaker 3: living handouts and failure to boost the economy. Lo said

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Speaker 3: the government's spending was making the economic challenges worse, and

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Speaker 3: he warned that bigger issue was labour's failure to act

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Speaker 3: on productivity and increase growth. He said, productivity capacity of

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Speaker 3: the economy is not growing very quickly, and the government

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Speaker 3: wants to keep spending and wants to keep offering people handouts,

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Speaker 3: which adds to demand, which in the normal course of

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Speaker 3: events would be fine. But if the supply is not growing,

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Speaker 3: you can't do it. And if you try to do it,

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Speaker 3: then interest rates have to go up. Dan, we are

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Speaker 3: in a serious economic crisis and if these trends continue.

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Speaker 3: The Albanyzy government seems to just be blind to this.

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Speaker 3: They show no signs of changing course.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean they don't understand economics is a part

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Speaker 7: of it. And what Philip Low has said is spot on.

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Speaker 7: And ah, well, I mean that's the case.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you.

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Speaker 7: Can pump a lot of money into an economy, provided

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Speaker 7: the economy is growing faster than the rate at which

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Speaker 7: you're pumping the money into it, that's fine, it will

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Speaker 7: absorb it and you won't get higher prices. What Philip

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Speaker 7: Loow is saying is that our actual capacity is a

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Speaker 7: also mass migration that is exacerbating. We know about housing

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Speaker 7: but everywhere else. But our actual ability to generate wealth

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Speaker 7: but they in and of themselves do not generate new wealth.

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Speaker 7: The wealth has to come from the private sector, which

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Speaker 7: is declining as a share of the economy. So you've

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Speaker 7: got the perfect storm that's happening. And the government doesn't

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Speaker 7: have a growth agenda. It has a redistribution agenda, so

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Speaker 7: it's just shifting money around without growing the economy. So yeah,

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Speaker 7: I mean, inflation is going to go up, in interest

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Speaker 1: Going to go up. In Australians will keep getting poorer.

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Speaker 3: Now prime in a Stanton Albanezi has appeared on the

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Speaker 3: ABC and he has blamed all sorts of things, social media,

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Speaker 3: One Nation, the coalition, it's all of that that's to

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Speaker 4: Have listened to this.

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Speaker 2: Think devices like that one making it well, they're pushing

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Speaker 2: people towards algorithms, push people towards extreme and towards really simple,

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Speaker 2: not solutions, but identifying problems.

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Speaker 4: Who's concerned about the fairbrill nature of debate.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, and One Nation have always been about identifying problems.

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Speaker 2: And a primary thing of your problem in life is

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Speaker 2: because of people who don't look like you, that division

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Speaker 2: that they have promoted consistently.

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Speaker 4: There you go, Michael, it's everyone's fault.

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Speaker 3: It's the devices, it's social media, it's people identifying problems,

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Speaker 3: taking zero responsibility for his government's role in the collapse

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Speaker 3: of trust in public in the government.

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Speaker 8: Really, to quote some of very unfashionable Bill Clinton, it's

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's the fact that all.

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Speaker 8: The factors that dom that Daniel Wilde was talking about before.

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Speaker 8: But look, I agree with him about social media, but

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Speaker 8: don't just focus it on the right and One Nation.

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Speaker 8: The most febrile, fascist, racist, bigoted stuff comes from the

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Speaker 8: doesn't stand up and say that is a coward. And

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Speaker 7: You continue to run from social division, and you're blaming

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Speaker 4: It was revealed that prison bosses in Victoria.

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Speaker 9: Well, good evening reader, absolutely, I mean this case is

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Speaker 10: Payment to make it go away is just diabolical.

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Speaker 9: And even since the Victorian Labor government have done their

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Speaker 10: It's absolutely shocking.

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Speaker 9: I mean you would think, after this scenario, and after

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Speaker 10: But it's really.

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Speaker 3: Now, Premier Allen has said that prisoner's safety is the

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Speaker 4: Stephanie.

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Speaker 3: Women have started petitions inmates of started petitions to try

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Speaker 10: No, that's right.

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Speaker 9: We've been campaigning earlier than twenty twenty two on this.

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Speaker 9: Started a campaign in twenty twenty two themselves and it

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Speaker 4: Well, where are the liberals on this?

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Speaker 9: Yes, so there's actually been a significant shift with the

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Speaker 4: Important to point that out.

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Speaker 9: Well, I think when you're investigating a matter like this,

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Speaker 9: People have a right to the truth, they have a

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Speaker 3: Now we've had more cases of trans identified mass shootings.

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Speaker 4: Himself, Stephanie.

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Speaker 3: There have been a number of mass shootings, including at schools,

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Speaker 9: Yes, absolutely, But I think the whole issue around gender

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Speaker 9: There are serious mental ill concerns here and these are

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Speaker 9: So not only is this gender ideology doing enormous disservice

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Speaker 3: Tonight still to come, Lefty's Losing Ed plus the latest

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Speaker 3: Rita Pannehy Show, and it's time for lefties losing it

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Speaker 3: I've said it before and I'll say it again. A

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Speaker 3: septum ring is almost always linked to severe mental health issues,

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Speaker 3: and this next last is just further proof of that theory.

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Speaker 4: Here's the thing. I don't want to pitch man. I

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Speaker 4: don't want that a serb time.

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Speaker 11: I want to take it into the citytown square.

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Speaker 12: God, God, damn God, got.

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Speaker 3: Calming, delightful lady, not at all disgustingly violent and unhinged.

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Speaker 3: Just a typical lifty losing And let's see it now

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Speaker 3: from another lifty lady who explains she has no love

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Speaker 3: for America. She's only in the country because it's easy

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Speaker 3: to make money.

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Speaker 11: Let me hold your hand when I say this. We

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Speaker 11: do not move to America because we think it's a

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Speaker 11: better country. We move here because it's a little less

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Speaker 11: worse than our other countries.

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Speaker 10: Because you're stupid.

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Speaker 11: To think that we move to this country for some

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Speaker 11: hot dogs and some baseball. We have better vibes, music, food, culture, history.

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Speaker 10: Literally all of the aboves.

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Speaker 11: We just move here because we are looking to make

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Speaker 11: more money and offer a better chance for our families.

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Speaker 3: Okay, but if those countries are so much better than America,

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Speaker 3: then why do you need to move to America to

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Speaker 3: give your family a better life?

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Speaker 4: Why would a country.

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Speaker 3: With such rich culture, traditions, superior in every way to

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Speaker 3: America not be.

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Speaker 4: A great place to raise your family.

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Speaker 3: Why is there more opportunity in America even for an

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Speaker 3: impoverished migrant?

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Speaker 4: May want to reflect on that one love now.

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Speaker 3: Earlier in the week, I brought you their happy news

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Speaker 3: of CNN losing two thirds of its audience since twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 4: And here's another reason why they.

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Speaker 3: Are so hard left these days, that this conspiracy theorist

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Speaker 3: is the network's chief international anchor.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to put you on the spot, Senator and

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Speaker 4: ask you a question about American elections. There are we're.

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Speaker 1: Going to have them. Are you sure?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Are you sure?

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Speaker 1: That president?

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Speaker 10: To me, that is really offensive, But yeah, we're going.

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Speaker 12: To have them.

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Speaker 4: Okay, But you know why, because you don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know why anybody would ask

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Speaker 1: me that.

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Speaker 12: You're missing You're missing the lights going on.

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Speaker 10: I like you, let's talk about but you can convince everybody.

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Speaker 4: You can assure Americans and others that it will go usual.

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Speaker 12: Only people worried about us not having elections.

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Speaker 10: You influte phone booth.

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Speaker 5: Okay, we're going to.

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Speaker 4: Just incredible stuff.

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Speaker 3: I can't believe she really asked the US were going

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Speaker 3: to hold elections.

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Speaker 4: Embarrassing to New York now.

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Speaker 3: Where idiot lefty protesters are blocking Fifth Avenue to yell

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Speaker 3: at Trump Tower and give it the finger. Yes, I'm

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Speaker 3: sure the building's feelings are really really hurt. Meanwhile, this

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Speaker 3: is the man New Yorkers have elected as mayor. Zorn

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Speaker 3: Mandani is now threatening too and I quote raid our

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Speaker 3: Rainy Day Fund and retire Benefit Fund.

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Speaker 4: Good times.

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Speaker 13: Rather do is ensure that they remain as they are

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Speaker 13: so that the city can be on firm financial footing. However,

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Speaker 13: in order to get to this point of closing the

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Speaker 13: gap on both this fiscal year and the next fiscal year,

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Speaker 13: we are forced to raid the Rainy Day Fund, the

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Speaker 13: Retiree Health Benefits Trust Reserve, and to increase property taxes

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Speaker 13: across these other years.

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Speaker 3: And increase property taxes. Wowee, got the trifecta.

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Speaker 1: There.

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Speaker 4: Now, let's talk about Cardi B.

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Speaker 3: She's been having a meltdown since the clearly more talented

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Speaker 3: and successful Nicki Minaj declared his support for the Trump

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Speaker 3: administration and in particular the work the administration is doing

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Speaker 3: to protect persecuted Christians in countries like Nigeria and elsewhere.

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Speaker 3: Cardi B's meltdown has seen her indulge in some bizarre antics.

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Speaker 3: I don't even know what she is doing in this

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Speaker 3: next clip, and I apologize in advance for what I

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Speaker 3: think is going to be an uncomfortable and cringe worthy

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Speaker 3: thirty seconds. She can hardly walk with all the weird

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Speaker 3: surgeries as she's had performed as a medical malpractice suit. There, somewhere,

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Speaker 3: now here is Cardi B taking another tumble, this time

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Speaker 3: on stage. I just tried there by a dancers trying

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Speaker 3: to cover that up when she's not falling over like

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Speaker 3: a drunken clown. Can't you be saying stuff like this,

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Speaker 3: mouthing off a bad ice and threatening to mace their offices.

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Speaker 14: So many of the tilty's are the baking.

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Speaker 15: Beating.

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Speaker 3: And that's who the Democrats thought was an ideal candidate

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Speaker 3: to campaign for. Kamala Harris good work team talking about

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Speaker 3: the Democrats. You know, you have to admire this about

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Speaker 3: Hillary Clinton.

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Speaker 4: She has an.

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Speaker 3: Easy ability to lie with complete confidence, complete lack of shame.

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Speaker 3: Here she explains to the BBC that her and her husband,

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Speaker 3: Bill Clinton had no relationship with Jeffrey Epstein and Gallainne Maxwell.

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Speaker 3: I mean, never mind the fact that Bill Clinton was

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Speaker 3: a regular on the Lolito Express, never mind that he

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Speaker 3: had such a bizarre relationship with Epstein that this painting

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Speaker 3: took pride of place in Jeffrey Epstein's main residence in

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Speaker 3: New York. Yes, that is the infamous blue dress that

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Speaker 3: Monica Lewinsky was a rumor to be wearing.

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Speaker 4: And then there are the links both Hillary.

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Speaker 3: And Bill had with Gallainne Maxwell through her rather significant

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Speaker 3: role in supporting the creation of the Clinton Global Initiative.

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Speaker 3: And so close was the relationship between the two couples

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Speaker 3: that in twenty thirteen, the Clintons, through their charity, honored

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Speaker 3: Gallaine Maxwell. This is some four years after sexual abuse

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Speaker 3: accusations against her emerged and two years after Bill Clinton's

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Speaker 3: staff recommended banning her from official events.

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Speaker 4: And who can.

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Speaker 3: Forget that infamous picture of Gallainne Maxwell at Chelsea Clinton's wedding.

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Speaker 3: But oh no, Hillary Clinton now claims there was no relationship,

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Speaker 3: no links with Epstein and Maxwell and the Clintons.

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Speaker 4: Listen to this, Do you regret the links that there

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Speaker 4: have been? You know, we have no links.

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Speaker 12: We have a very clear record that we've been willing

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Speaker 12: to talk about, which my husband has said he took

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Speaker 12: some rides on the airplane for his charitable work. I

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Speaker 12: don't recall ever meeting him. Do you ever meet I

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Speaker 12: did on a few occasions. And thousands of people go

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Speaker 12: to the Clinton Global Initiative.

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Speaker 3: Do thousands of people get honored by the Clinton Global Initiative?

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Speaker 4: Hillary?

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Speaker 3: Did thousands get invited to your only child's wedding?

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Speaker 4: Let's bring in comic Alex Stein.

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Speaker 3: Alex, what do you make of that explanation from Hillary Clinton?

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Speaker 16: Well, Hillary Clinton is a psychopath.

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Speaker 17: I mean she has the ability to lie better than

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Speaker 17: any Hollywood actress. You know what the weirdest thing is

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Speaker 17: is with this Savannah Guthrie kidnapping. You know, Savannah's husband,

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Speaker 17: Michael Feldman, actually worked in the Clinton administration in the

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Speaker 17: nineties and then he ran a group called the I

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Speaker 17: think it's called Bickfit. I wrote it down Glover Park

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Speaker 17: Group that was actually a public affairs consultant where he

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Speaker 17: worked with the Clintons and basically got all their dirt

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Speaker 17: off the internet. So there is a weird connection where

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Speaker 17: this guy is basically like a Clinton cleaner, and then

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Speaker 17: now his mother in law gets kidnapped right when the

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Speaker 17: Epstein files come out.

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Speaker 16: It's almost like I'm just speculating this.

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Speaker 17: The kidnapping could be somebody sending a message to Savannah

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Speaker 17: Guthrie not to get involved, because she's one of the

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Speaker 17: few mainstream media journalists that actually interviewed one of Epstein's victims.

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Speaker 16: So I don't know. With all of the weird mysteries surrounding.

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Speaker 3: Napping wild that is a wild conspiracy theory, even for you, Alex.

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Speaker 3: But I do know you do love your conspiracy theories,

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Speaker 3: so you're the perfect and to ask this question. There

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Speaker 3: are millions online on social media at the moment who

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Speaker 3: are speculating about Glaiy Maxwell's newly released video. There are

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Speaker 3: many who are saying this is an impostor that she

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Speaker 3: looks markedly different. Her nose in particular, the say is different.

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Speaker 3: It's been the subject of much analysis. Surely you don't

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Speaker 3: subscribe to that sort of wild conspiracy theory.

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Speaker 16: Well, Rita, of course I do. First of all, you're

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Speaker 16: big on social media. You've seen those videos.

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Speaker 17: Well I'm saying, you've seen those videos where they can

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Speaker 17: buy a mask and it looks like Walter White from

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Speaker 17: Breaking Bad, so I wouldn't be surprised. And then you

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Speaker 17: saw the Daily Mail article that said that they had

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Speaker 17: to use a fake body double and they got rid

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Speaker 17: of Jeffrey Ebstein's body.

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Speaker 16: They admitted why do they need to use a body double?

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Speaker 16: So some funny business is going on. Trust me.

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Speaker 3: Look, I just can't believe that it would be a fat,

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Speaker 3: fake Gallay Maxwell and that she's free somewhere in the

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Speaker 3: tropics enjoying herself.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I know a lot of conspiracy theories have

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Speaker 3: proved to be accurate, but that's too wild for me.

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Speaker 4: I'm not there yet, Alex.

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Speaker 3: Now, let's talk about this case out of Minneapolis. There's

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Speaker 3: been more charges arising out of a church being stormed

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Speaker 3: by anti ice protesters during Sunday service. Temple University student

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Speaker 3: Jerome Richardson turned himself into police on federal charges relating

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Speaker 3: to his alleged role in assisting Don Lemon storming that

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Speaker 3: church in Minnesota, Alex don Lemon continues to play the

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Speaker 3: victim and is now claiming that he's just hated because

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Speaker 3: he tells the truth.

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Speaker 5: I am a great foe because I'm outspoken. The President

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Speaker 5: doesn't like me. I'm black, I have a platform, I'm gay,

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Speaker 5: and I am not afraid of them. I am fearless,

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Speaker 5: and so to them, it's the perfect foil because Maga

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Speaker 5: hates me. I tell the truth about their cult?

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Speaker 3: Alex, is that why Don Lemony is mocked and maligned

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Speaker 3: because he's a brave truth toe.

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Speaker 17: Well, you know, to be fair, he's not one hundred

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Speaker 17: percent wrong, because there's nothing more dangerous than somebody that

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Speaker 17: has nothing to lose, and he's lost at all. He

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Speaker 17: lost his CNN gig. He's really got nothing else to lose.

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Speaker 16: So that is the most dangerous person.

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Speaker 17: That's why it's always best advice not to get involved

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Speaker 17: with like a homeless person if they're acting crazy because

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Speaker 17: they got nothing to lose.

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Speaker 16: So I would say that he's.

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Speaker 17: In that position where he is a little bit of

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Speaker 17: he's got a little bit of danger because he could,

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Speaker 17: you know, basically become a CAUSI as situation where he Now,

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Speaker 17: if we're being honest to his fans, he looks like

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Speaker 17: a victim of the Trump administration.

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Speaker 16: I don't think that he is. I think he deserves

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Speaker 16: to be in jail.

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Speaker 17: But he's able to spend that narrative and he probably

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Speaker 17: got more support because of it. So you know, I

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Speaker 17: don't think he's actually being that egregious when he says

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Speaker 17: that he is a little bit of a threat. But

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Speaker 17: you know, mag is a lot bigger than Don Lemon,

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Speaker 17: and I don't think that he could take down the

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Speaker 17: movement whatsoever.

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Speaker 3: He is loving the attention and the victim playing this arrest,

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Speaker 3: as he got a standing ovation in some Hollywood crowd.

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Speaker 3: I mean, this is the golden period of his career

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Speaker 3: at the moment. He's loving this. Let's talk about one

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Speaker 3: of your favorite topics. Sydney Sweeney. Busty model and actress

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Speaker 3: Sidney Sweeney joined the American Eagle Outfitters chairman and CEO

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Speaker 3: at the New York Stock Exchange last week to ring

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Speaker 3: the opening bell.

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Speaker 4: He's looking great in Denham there, Alex.

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Speaker 3: This follows the viral success of the Sydney Sweeney has

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Speaker 3: Great Gens campaign.

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Speaker 4: Which was hugely controversial.

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Speaker 3: I predicted then that she will switch to woke in

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 4: At some point. What do you make of that prediction.

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Speaker 3: I think we are going to see Sydney Sweeney come

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Speaker 3: out and just mouth all the leftist talking points.

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Speaker 17: Well, to be fair, Michael Jordan would always say the

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Speaker 17: reason why he didn't get involved in politics is because

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Speaker 17: Republicans by sneakers too, So in that sense, she's been

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Speaker 17: She's been trying to stay out of it, but I

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Speaker 17: do think at some point she might benefit from doing it.

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Speaker 17: She might get more roles because of it. So I

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Speaker 17: don't think you're necessarily wrong. But she has navigated a

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Speaker 17: pretty good so far down the middle of not being political,

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Speaker 17: even though it seems like she's right leaning.

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Speaker 3: Now, before you go, let's talk about actress Cynthia Arrivo.

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Speaker 3: She has come out and spoken about the speculation surrounding

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Speaker 3: her relationship with her wicked costar Ariana Grande. There's been

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Speaker 3: talk that they are romantically involved. Cynthia has denied this

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Speaker 3: and talked up the confusion of their relationship to people

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Speaker 3: not being used to seeing deep and real platonic female

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Speaker 3: free chips in the media. Alex, I don't know a

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Speaker 3: deep and real female friendship involves just constantly crying for

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Speaker 3: no reason, touching each other in public, and just generally

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Speaker 3: being a little painful.

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Speaker 4: I hope you'll let my friend be one of the things.

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Speaker 4: Then then you're raining hand.

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Speaker 1: In not the time.

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Speaker 14: Helicopter were such a gift, you such light into the room.

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Speaker 14: Thank you very much.

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Speaker 10: We appreciate in this room today.

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Speaker 14: We need we needed to come.

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Speaker 2: Even through this presst or something's bothering her, she's going

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Speaker 2: to make something.

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Speaker 6: I know she's getting the fixing itch that, Oh thank you.

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Speaker 10: The biggest pinch me moment for each of you on

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Speaker 10: the set?

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Speaker 15: Was it a day you arrived out on the set

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Speaker 15: or some special moment that happened during the filming of

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Speaker 15: this For each what was the biggest pinch Alex?

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Speaker 3: I don't know what's happening there, but that necklace did

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Speaker 3: not need to be adjusted.

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Speaker 4: I know that much.

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Speaker 3: What do you make of this Geo and Cynthia Rivo's

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Speaker 3: explanation of their relationship.

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Speaker 16: Well, I definitely think they're hiding something.

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Speaker 17: I mean, just the way that they're just so openly

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Speaker 17: affectionate towards one another.

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Speaker 16: That's just bizarre.

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Speaker 17: But when you watch that video, they almost look like extraterrestrials.

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Speaker 17: It doesn't like it looks like it's almost an AI

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Speaker 17: rendition of two human beings talking.

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Speaker 16: So I hope that they both get the help that

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Speaker 16: they need.

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Speaker 17: I think they've both been hurt by a lot of men,

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Speaker 17: so that's probably why they've connected in this weird relationship.

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Speaker 3: I like that theory. The men are to blame. Alex Stein,

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Speaker 3: thank you for your time. Tonight, It's still to come.

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Speaker 3: The Royals rocked by even more revelations about Andrew's disturbing

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Speaker 3: relationship with Jeffrey Epstein. Michael Loftus has the details.

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Speaker 4: Welcome back.

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Speaker 3: Joining me now is writer and comic Michael Loftus. Michael,

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Speaker 3: let's start with Whoopy Goldberg. She's denied having any involvement

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Speaker 3: with Jeffrey Epstein after her name appeared in the files.

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Speaker 4: Here she is on the view with her side of

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Speaker 4: the story.

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Speaker 18: In the name of transparency, can you put up my

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Speaker 18: name is in the file? It says Whoopy needs a

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Speaker 18: plan to get to Monaco. John Lennon's charity. It should

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Speaker 18: say Julian Lennon's charity is paying for it. People are

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Speaker 18: trying to turn me into I wasn't his girlfriend.

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Speaker 4: I was for him. I was not only too.

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Speaker 18: Old, but it was at a time you know where

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Speaker 18: this is just not You used to have to have

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Speaker 18: facts before.

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Speaker 1: You said stuff.

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Speaker 4: Michael, what's your reaction to that?

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Speaker 3: Interesting that to support a charity she needs a private

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Speaker 3: jet to Monaco. I mean I would have thought it'd

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Speaker 3: jump on a plane pay for your own afairs.

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Speaker 4: But put that to one side. What's your reaction to that?

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Speaker 15: I feel bad for woo Be Goldberg. This is so cringey.

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Speaker 15: You're yeah, she could have she could have bought a ticket,

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Speaker 15: she could have hired a jet. There's service. She wanted

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Speaker 15: to be close with Jeffrey Epstein, she wanted in. This

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Speaker 15: was her excuse to ask him for a favor. And

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Speaker 15: she doesn't say his response. He just wrote back two words,

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Speaker 15: no thanks. So Jeffrey Epstein, who's world famous for like, oh,

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Speaker 15: he likes women, he likes the ladies, he likes the party,

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Speaker 15: and whoopy Goldberg is like, hey want to hang out

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Speaker 15: and he's like, no thanks. Oh, Jeffrey Epstein turned her down.

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Speaker 15: That's she's gonna be going to therapy for years to

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Speaker 15: get over that, and.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the private jet thing, it's not good. Look, but

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Speaker 3: it's got to be said. There are a lot of

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Speaker 3: names in the files that aren't guilty, but there are

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Speaker 3: also names.

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Speaker 4: Who deserve far more scrutiny. In the US.

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Speaker 3: At the moment, you've got saturation coverage of this Nancy

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Speaker 3: Guthrie story, the suspected kidnapping of TV host Savannah Guthrie's mother.

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Speaker 3: It is a terrible case, but the coverage Michael has

767
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Speaker 3: just been completely out of whack when you consider the

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Speaker 3: coverage of the Epstein files.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, this is like watching like a pen and teller routine,

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Speaker 15: Like every magician does that misdirection thing. Hey, don't look

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Speaker 15: over here, look at this, And there's so much misdirection

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Speaker 15: going on. There's gonna be a beauty pageant at some point,

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Speaker 15: and someone's gonna get the Savannah Guph three Glove Award.

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Speaker 15: I can tell you everything about this woman. It's wall

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Speaker 15: to wall coverage. You've got like nine billion terror bytes

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Speaker 15: of emails, videos, photograph, listen to everything with Epstein. But

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Speaker 15: they're like, ooh, what do you think, Savannah Guthrie, what

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Speaker 15: do you think? What do you think she got when

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Speaker 15: she went out to lunch two years ago. I don't care.

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Speaker 15: Somebody tell me about Epstein. Tell me about people getting arrested.

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Speaker 15: For the love of.

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Speaker 4: God, Yeah, and there are people.

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Speaker 3: I had to look at some of the comments that

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Speaker 3: people are posting to media personalities or even mainstream media

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Speaker 3: outlets when they update on this story, and they're saying,

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Speaker 3: enough the coverage of this is too much.

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Speaker 4: Focus on some other stories.

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Speaker 3: Now, let's take a close look at one of those

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Speaker 3: prominent individuals featured in the Epstein files. A private email

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Speaker 3: from January twenty fifteen between Jeffrey Epstein and a journalist

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Speaker 3: has revealed that the man formerly known as Prince Andrew

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Speaker 3: allegedly had consensual sex with Virginia Giuffrey at least three

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Speaker 3: times in two thousand and one when she was just seventeen.

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Speaker 3: When the pediphile financier replied, he did not correct the

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Speaker 3: journalists who stated it as a fact that the former

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Speaker 3: prince had slept with the trafficking victim.

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Speaker 4: Michael Landon. Thomas Junior, who.

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Speaker 3: At the time was with The New York Times, advised

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Speaker 3: Epstein to distance himself from Andrew because he had sex

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Speaker 3: with Virginia. He wrote, I think the big issue is

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Speaker 3: separating yourself from Andrew. I mean, in the end, he

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Speaker 3: had consensual sex with Virginia, and Virginia worked for you.

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Speaker 3: The rest is atmospherics. You have moved on exclamation mark.

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Speaker 3: People don't know that and can't accept that.

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Speaker 4: Unless you say as much.

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Speaker 3: And I can't believe that We've got a New York

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Speaker 3: Times writer giving pr advice, crisis management advice to a

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Speaker 3: convicted petiphile Michael, Yes, Yes.

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Speaker 15: Jeffrey Epstein, who ran like a criminal, a global criminal

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Speaker 15: organization who writers, is now saying that the it's reaching

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Speaker 15: the levels of crimes against humanity. And he's calling a

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Speaker 15: New York Times journal, the New York Times that's supposed

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Speaker 15: to be Oh, we're about objectivity and journalism and cold heart.

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Speaker 15: This is like the guy who ran the Hindenberg talking

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Speaker 15: to the gas station attendant about fire insurance. This is

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Speaker 15: the craziest thing I've ever seen.

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Speaker 18: Now.

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Speaker 3: The former Prince has also been ghosting the US House

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Speaker 3: Oversight Committee probe into his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein, the

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Speaker 3: committee revealing that Andrew has not yet responded Michael. This

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Speaker 3: comes as his ex wife, Sarah Ferguson is moving to

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Speaker 3: dissolve five of her companies amid this Epstein.

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Speaker 15: Fallout and Andrew Betterby, I'm sorry the artist formerly known

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Speaker 15: as Prince Andrew Right now, he's just gone by a symbol.

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Speaker 15: It's a question mark because he hasn't responded to the

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Speaker 15: US government wanting to talk to him. Does this guy

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Speaker 15: not watch the news? If they ask government wants to

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Speaker 15: talk to you, you better show up because Trump will

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Speaker 15: just go and venezuela him that we will just go

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Speaker 15: get We will pull a Nicholas Maduro on his pasty

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Speaker 15: white butt and he will show up.

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Speaker 1: Oh tho.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that is a threat that anyone would take seriously.

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Speaker 3: And I'm tipping his protection isn't as good as what

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Speaker 3: Madua would have had, and they didn't seem to help

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Speaker 3: him out too much.

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Speaker 4: Now this next story, I could not believe.

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Speaker 3: This story about Kim Kardashian and F one star Lewis

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Speaker 3: Hamilton that they're dating.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 3: Normally that wouldn't be that surprising two famous people getting together,

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Speaker 3: except Lewis Hamilton has previously dated Kim's younger sister, Kendall

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Speaker 3: Jenna Michael. Fans online are up in arms about this.

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Speaker 3: They're calling this coupling disgusting. Are they being unfair because

845
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 3: love is love and he can't help you fall in

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Speaker 3: love with you know what.

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Speaker 15: I think the public is being very fair. This is disgusting,

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Speaker 15: But maybe maybe they're really trying to Maybe it's getting

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Speaker 15: the most out of the day. They're gonna say so

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Speaker 15: much time at Christmas dinner that you don't even have

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Speaker 15: to make the introductions. I think you know Mom, I

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00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,360
Speaker 15: think you know him. You definitely know my sister. You

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Speaker 15: know her in the biblical sense.

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Speaker 4: I don't know God.

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Speaker 15: Well, maybe he's maybe he's a race car driver and

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00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:30,359
Speaker 15: he's just gonna speed run the whole family. Mom is

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Speaker 15: on his list.

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Speaker 4: Who knows well.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Chris is looking very good these days, but the

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Speaker 3: Kardashian men.

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Speaker 4: Don't do too well.

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Speaker 3: There's a bit of a curse when he comes to

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Speaker 3: men who get together with one of the sisters or

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Speaker 3: even men within the family.

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Speaker 4: So Lewis Hamilton better be careful about.

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Speaker 3: That, Michael, because he's in a very dangerous occupation.

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Speaker 4: He's got to be very careful.

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Speaker 3: Michael Loftis, thank you so much for your time tonight, and.

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Speaker 4: That's all the time I have.

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Speaker 3: I'll see you at eleven Tomorrow Night with Douglas Murray.

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Speaker 4: Up next, it's Newsnight.