WEBVTT - Sharri | 25 February

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<v Speaker 1>Why On Sky News This is Sharry.

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<v Speaker 2>Good Evening. Tonight we'll expose Australians attending the Lebanese funeral

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<v Speaker 2>of hesbl Alida Hassan Nasralla, our explosive report. In a moment,

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<v Speaker 2>Plas Albanizi defends China's aggressive actions in the Tasman Sea.

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<v Speaker 2>This is their safety. Authorities reveal they only learned about

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<v Speaker 2>the live fire exercises thirty minutes after they started. Rodin

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<v Speaker 2>Bishop and Holly Hughes would join me to discuss and

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<v Speaker 2>Ariel Bibbis's five year old best friend tells his mum

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<v Speaker 2>that he's not dead and he's just in his room.

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<v Speaker 2>Elon Levy would join me from Israel to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>this heartbreak ahead of tomorrow's funeral. Refers tonight to our

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<v Speaker 2>exclusive story. We can expose Australians who've flown to Lebanon,

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<v Speaker 2>where they've attended terror leader Hassan Nasralla's funeral. Nasralla was

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<v Speaker 2>responsible for the murder of thousands during his three decade

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<v Speaker 2>reign of Hesbelah. He was finally killed in his bunker

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<v Speaker 2>by Israel in September last year, and this came after

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<v Speaker 2>Hesbelah began prolific attacks against Israel on October the eighth,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty three. Now, all political leaders, from the Prime

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<v Speaker 2>Minister to the Opposition leader have been pretty clear that

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<v Speaker 2>Hesbela is a terror organization and its leader is not

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<v Speaker 2>someone any Australian should mourn.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, there's no place for morning a terrorist leader, and

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<v Speaker 3>we're very concerned about.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of the terrorist symbols.

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<v Speaker 3>It's completely unacceptable.

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<v Speaker 1>They're a terrorist organization that they organized terrorist attacks.

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<v Speaker 2>Yet Tony Burke's Home Affairs Department didn't stop Australians from

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<v Speaker 2>traveling to Lebanon to attend his funeral, despite the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that Azio confirmed to they do have the power to

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<v Speaker 2>do this. Sydney based religious leader Ahbed Almajed Murtada is

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<v Speaker 2>pictured at Nasula's funeral. He's on the left in a

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<v Speaker 2>photograph he posted to his own social media account just

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<v Speaker 2>a day ago. As you can see in his social

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<v Speaker 2>media posts that I'm about to show you, he had

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<v Speaker 2>prime seating at the funeral. He was right in front

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<v Speaker 2>of the stage at the center of the stadium. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>we put questions to Ahbed and he told us, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a proud Australian citizen. I flew to Lebanon to

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<v Speaker 2>pay my respects to our beloved and esteemed clergy. So

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<v Speaker 2>he's proudly admitting that he flew to Lebanon to attend

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<v Speaker 2>the funeral of a terrorist leader. Now Ahbed is a

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<v Speaker 2>Scout leader. He teaches Australian youth, including children in Sydney.

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<v Speaker 2>Now here's another Australian mirror who's posted videos where she

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<v Speaker 2>smiles before panning her camera round to show that she's

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<v Speaker 2>also at Nasrulla's funeral. Miriam also posted this video with

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<v Speaker 2>the caption for Israeli jets flew above us twice and

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<v Speaker 2>in another post she wrote Sayid Hassan Nasrallah on a

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<v Speaker 2>video as you can see of Mourna's touching the coffin.

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<v Speaker 2>She also posed for photographs in front of many tributes

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<v Speaker 2>to Nasrallah. You can see that on your screen now.

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<v Speaker 2>Miriam posted many videos of her trip. She posted videos

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<v Speaker 2>as well of her trip from Australia to Lebanon. She

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<v Speaker 2>captured herself flying to Beirute via Abu Dhabi, going to

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<v Speaker 2>the hairdresser, going out for meals, and also at an

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<v Speaker 2>at Nasraela's funeral in Sydney. She has a children's hair

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<v Speaker 2>braiding business, where she claims on the Instagram page that

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred percent of the profits go to Palestine and Lebanon.

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<v Speaker 2>Then there's ishak Zaan, who's been posting prolifically on social

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<v Speaker 2>media from the funeral ceremonies. He also posted a picture

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<v Speaker 2>with a group of men that he says are the

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<v Speaker 2>AUSSI contingent. You can see that there, he says, AUSSI crew.

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<v Speaker 2>In another post, he said he arrived at the funeral

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<v Speaker 2>at five am. He said the stadium filled up until

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<v Speaker 2>there were one point four million people there. That's his claim.

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<v Speaker 2>In another post, he wrote, I'm just trying to process

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<v Speaker 2>the most emotional day of my life. I can't even

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<v Speaker 2>put into words what I experienced today. Crying in the

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<v Speaker 2>arms of brothers before even knowing their names, he said,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad I was granted the opportunity to be in

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<v Speaker 2>the presence of history and take it all in. He

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<v Speaker 2>also showed himself at the funeral along with the tens

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<v Speaker 2>of thousands of other people there. You can see him

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<v Speaker 2>in the right hand corner of your screen. And then

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<v Speaker 2>of Nasralla, the terror leader, he said, a giant of

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<v Speaker 2>a man in a Coffin didn't think I'd see the day,

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<v Speaker 2>nor did it feel real. In another post, he filmed

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<v Speaker 2>the destruction from the war and said their day will come,

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<v Speaker 2>God willing. Their day will come, God willing. Now one

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<v Speaker 2>of the other Australians with him has also posted a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of content, a lot of videos from Hassan Nasralla's

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<v Speaker 2>funeral and many from Lebanon over the past couple of years.

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<v Speaker 2>But then I had a look at his social media

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<v Speaker 2>archives and I saw that there were videos taken from

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<v Speaker 2>Dover Heights Park in Sydney, and Dover Heights is a

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<v Speaker 2>predominantly Jewish area. You can see those videos on your screen.

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<v Speaker 2>It was quite chilling to see that. And those videos

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<v Speaker 2>were taken in May twenty twenty four, and you just

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<v Speaker 2>wonder what someone who supports a terrorist organization like this

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<v Speaker 2>person does was doing in Dover Heights Park. Then here's

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<v Speaker 2>another Australian, Hassan Jeba. He says on his social media

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<v Speaker 2>that he lives in Sydney, Australia, and he's posted footage

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<v Speaker 2>from the Palestinian protests at Hyde Park. That photograph you're

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<v Speaker 2>looking at was on October the twenty ninth, twenty twenty three.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, just a couple of weeks after October

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<v Speaker 2>the seventh. Here here is at another pro Palestinian protest.

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<v Speaker 2>He's holding a toddler in his arms. Then he shared

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<v Speaker 2>this photograph of himself at Nosula's funeral wearing a scarf

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<v Speaker 2>with the terror leader's face on it. He also posted

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<v Speaker 2>countless videos. Now we do have documented evidence for several

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<v Speaker 2>more individuals as well, but I'd be here all night. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>let's go through this very carefully. Hesbela is a prescribed

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<v Speaker 2>terror organization and support for a terrorist organization is banned

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<v Speaker 2>in Australia. It's a criminal offense to openly support terrorism.

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<v Speaker 2>There are also new hate speech laws which prohibit the

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<v Speaker 2>waving of prescribed symbols such as the Hesbela flag. Now

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<v Speaker 2>we ask the Home Affairs Department whether this travel that

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<v Speaker 2>I've shown tonight breaches the laws that prohibit support for

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<v Speaker 2>a terrorist organization in our country. We also are asked

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<v Speaker 2>Home Affairs whether they knew that these individuals were flying

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<v Speaker 2>to Lebanon seemingly with the explicit purpose of attending the funeral,

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<v Speaker 2>and if so, why were they allowed to leave the country.

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<v Speaker 2>We provided Home Affairs with the details of the social

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<v Speaker 2>media accounts. We did this yesterday to give them time

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<v Speaker 2>to see for themselves. As usual, we received a weak

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<v Speaker 2>and pathetic response here it is. Home Affairs said the

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<v Speaker 2>department does not comment on individuals, including travel movements or

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<v Speaker 2>citizenship status. Anyone suspecting criminal activity is urged to contact

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<v Speaker 2>law enforcement agencies. Now, Home Affairs and Bordiforce both have

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<v Speaker 2>the power to stop people leaving the country if they

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<v Speaker 2>suspect their involvement in terror. It's a point ASIO Director

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<v Speaker 2>General Mike Burgess made tonight under questioning from Shadow Home

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<v Speaker 2>Affairs Minister James Patterson.

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<v Speaker 4>We do have the ability to do security assessments which

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<v Speaker 4>would result in king the request for an individual's passport

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<v Speaker 4>to be temporarily canceled so they could not travel. The

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<v Speaker 4>fact that an organization is listed is sending a message

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<v Speaker 4>to society that's a listed terrorist organization and actually there

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<v Speaker 4>are criminal penalties for engaging with or being a member

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<v Speaker 4>of such group.

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<v Speaker 2>Secondly, Mike Burgess said that Australia also has the power

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<v Speaker 2>to temporarily prevent someone from returning to our country if

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<v Speaker 2>the authorities believe they pose a threat.

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<v Speaker 4>There are Australians will have a right to return, but

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<v Speaker 4>there is temporary exclusion orders that can be applied in

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<v Speaker 4>some circumstances that would control that return in a manner

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<v Speaker 4>which was enabled the issue to be managed effectively by authorities,

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<v Speaker 4>including ASIO.

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<v Speaker 2>Again, that was thanks to the excellent questioning of James Patterson.

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<v Speaker 2>The AZO boss then said he would be concerned if

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<v Speaker 2>he learned that Australians were traveling overseas to participate in

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<v Speaker 2>an event organized by a listed to organization, and in fact,

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<v Speaker 2>he said it's unlawful to engage with such groups.

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<v Speaker 4>As a security service, I'd be regardless of whether it's

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<v Speaker 4>listed or not, if they were going to an event,

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<v Speaker 4>whether of i'm extremists or known terrorists, we would be

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<v Speaker 4>interested as Australia's security service.

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<v Speaker 2>President of the Australian Jewish Association David Adler said it

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<v Speaker 2>was alarming that their support for HESBELA in Australia. He

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<v Speaker 2>said it represented a threat to security and social cohesion.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone needs to understand that HESBELA is one of the

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<v Speaker 1>largest and most deadly terrorist organizations the world has seen,

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<v Speaker 1>responsible for killing people in Europe, in Thailand, in South

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<v Speaker 1>America and many many people in the Middle East. This

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<v Speaker 1>man Noustralia has the blood of thousands on his heads.

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<v Speaker 2>Now. I spoke to James Patterson about this is you

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<v Speaker 2>and he said that no Australian citizen or visa holder

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<v Speaker 2>should mourn the death of a terrorist like Hassan Nasralla,

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<v Speaker 2>let alone attend his funeral. Here's what James Patterson told

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<v Speaker 2>me today. He said Tony Burke should explain why these

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<v Speaker 2>people were allowed to travel to an event organized by

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<v Speaker 2>a listed terroist organization and whether he'll use the powers

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<v Speaker 2>available to him to block their return to Australia. This

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<v Speaker 2>is James Patterson. He said, if they are non citizens,

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<v Speaker 2>their visas should be counseled without hesitation. If they are citizens,

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<v Speaker 2>they should be immediately investigated for associating with Hesbelah, which

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<v Speaker 2>is a serious terrorism offense under the Commonwealth Criminal quote.

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<v Speaker 2>He said, we must send a strong message that there's

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<v Speaker 2>no place for terrort sympathizers in Australia. Now, this is

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<v Speaker 2>all deeply worrying. These are people who've been living in

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<v Speaker 2>Australia who clearly have a strong level of emotional support

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<v Speaker 2>for terrorist organization. Some of them, even the men spoke

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<v Speaker 2>about crying at that funeral. Now this is all part

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<v Speaker 2>of the reason why social cohesion in our country is

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<v Speaker 2>now crumbling. Let's bring in now former Speaker of the

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<v Speaker 2>House Bronwin Bishop and Liberal Senator Holly Hughes, and I

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<v Speaker 2>might just get both of your reaction to that story

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<v Speaker 2>before we get to the other topics. Broumwin, what do

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<v Speaker 2>you think about this?

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<v Speaker 5>I'm just appalled, I'm seriously appalled. I have to ask

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<v Speaker 5>the question, does this mean that there is a husband

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<v Speaker 5>ast cell here in Australia? Is that cell active in

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<v Speaker 5>promoting anti Semitism? Is there criminality going on by these

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<v Speaker 5>people in our country? Those things have to be investigated

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<v Speaker 5>and have to be answered to see the the hate

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<v Speaker 5>for our country and what they're doing means, are they

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<v Speaker 5>duals citizens? Are they entitled to remain Australian citizens? There

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<v Speaker 5>are so many questions, so that story answers and we

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<v Speaker 5>need answers to them.

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<v Speaker 2>Indeed, and Holly, the more I was looking into this today,

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<v Speaker 2>you know I showed you that post where it said

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<v Speaker 2>Ossie Crewe and that I was able to click on

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<v Speaker 2>each of those people that was, you know, each of

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<v Speaker 2>them again. Another Australian who was attending the funeral. It

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<v Speaker 2>seems like this is just being No one's got control here.

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<v Speaker 2>This has just been allowed to happen.

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<v Speaker 6>It's just another example of how weak this government is

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<v Speaker 6>and how they are so determined to walk both sides

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<v Speaker 6>of the street and speak out of both sides of

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<v Speaker 6>their mouth. They are absolutely letting the national security of

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<v Speaker 6>this country down. Bromwin is right, we don't know if

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<v Speaker 6>there's some sort of Hezbalas cell operating in Australia, and

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<v Speaker 6>James Patterson is one hundred percent right when he says

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<v Speaker 6>if they are non citizens, their visas should be immediately canceled.

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<v Speaker 6>If they're dual citizens, we should look at the same

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<v Speaker 6>and if they're Australian citizens, well they need to be

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<v Speaker 6>spoken to when they get back to the country. It

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<v Speaker 6>is absolutely abhorrent. It's extraordinary that they think putting it

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<v Speaker 6>on social media and celebrating attending the funeral of a

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<v Speaker 6>known terrorist is in.

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<v Speaker 7>Any way acceptable.

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<v Speaker 6>It's beyond comprehension what these people think they're capable of doing.

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<v Speaker 2>I just worry that there's no appetite, or not much

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<v Speaker 2>appetite in the Albanese government to actually crack down on terrorism.

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<v Speaker 2>And we heard the Prime Minister and Q and A

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<v Speaker 2>last night, and he mentioned neo Nazis, he mentioned fascists,

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<v Speaker 2>but he can't actually mention radical Islam. He can't mention

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<v Speaker 2>the HEZBLA. And I don't know why it's so difficult.

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<v Speaker 7>Why are we rats? Why are we not?

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<v Speaker 5>Why are we surprised? I mean the man since he

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<v Speaker 5>was at university has been espousing pro Palestinian courses, knowing

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<v Speaker 5>what what is entailed in those ideas even then, so

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<v Speaker 5>there was just no fiber in his body that cares

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<v Speaker 5>about the anti Semitic attitudes that are going on in

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<v Speaker 5>this country. And the merely male utterances on Q and

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<v Speaker 5>A yesterday were truly pic and good on to that mother,

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<v Speaker 5>mother of your wars.

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<v Speaker 2>Isn't she amazing that he's watching now? But if you are,

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<v Speaker 2>we applaud you very strong. Against the Prime Minister and BO.

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<v Speaker 2>Speaking of Q and A last night, Albanez he basically

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<v Speaker 2>defended China's actions in the Tasmancy. He implied that all

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<v Speaker 2>they'd done wrong was not giving Australia enough notice. This

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<v Speaker 2>was extraordinary. Have a look.

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<v Speaker 3>Australia conducts exercises in the South China Sea and in

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<v Speaker 3>the region in international waters and international airspace and it

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<v Speaker 3>would be better had China. So we're put in an

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<v Speaker 3>official protest if you like that. More notice should have

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<v Speaker 3>been given.

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<v Speaker 2>So he was comparing it to the freedom of navigation

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<v Speaker 2>exercises that Australia undertakes in the South China See. But Holly,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't compare them. I mean, the South China See

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<v Speaker 2>is a major international shipping route that needs to have

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Australia, the US and others able to pass through.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know this. It was just saying ships were

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<v Speaker 2>just off Hobart, Yes, exactly, go on, holy.

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<v Speaker 7>Yep, Yeah, they were just off Hobart.

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<v Speaker 6>And the fact that we were alerted to them via

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<v Speaker 6>a Virgin Airline pilot is extraordinary. The fact that we're

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<v Speaker 6>relying on commercial airline pilots to let us know what's

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<v Speaker 6>going on in our waters or just outside of our waters.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, these guys, whether it's the Australians or people

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<v Speaker 6>that reside in Australia at at the hesbela funeral, whether

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<v Speaker 6>it's you know, China's handsome boy merely mouthed response to

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<v Speaker 6>China clearly flexing its muscle. National security under this government

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<v Speaker 6>is coming a very very distant priority down the list

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<v Speaker 6>of priorities. I don't know what their priorities are because

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<v Speaker 6>they're not doing anything well, but certainly national security and

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<v Speaker 6>at the end of the day, that is the fundamental

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<v Speaker 6>role of the federal government is to keep its citizens safe.

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<v Speaker 6>Yet this government seems incapable of standing up for Australians.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, you think what would have happened.

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<v Speaker 6>There were forty nine flights forced to divert because of

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<v Speaker 6>the live fire coming from those Chinese ships. You imagine

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<v Speaker 6>if one of those flights had been shot down with

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<v Speaker 6>Australian citizens.

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<v Speaker 7>On board, Like I mean, it's terrifying. Thoughts, you don't

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<v Speaker 7>want to think about it. It is terrifying. And our

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<v Speaker 7>government's sitting on its hands.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, of course they're sitting on its hands only because

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<v Speaker 5>the handsome boy sees cow tows to the Communist Party

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<v Speaker 5>of China. Then maybe the Communist Party of China will

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<v Speaker 5>send messages to the diaspo here for the next election

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<v Speaker 5>devote labor.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's all about politic Yeah, I just want to

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<v Speaker 2>show I get to this before we go, because I

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<v Speaker 2>noticed both of you are in Orange tonight and Holly,

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<v Speaker 2>you were watching the program last night when I spoke

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<v Speaker 2>about how Australia was one of the only countries in

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<v Speaker 2>the world that hadn't illuminated any buildings in Orange in

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<v Speaker 2>honor of the Bibas Boys, and you took up that

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<v Speaker 2>clause in a big way. In fact, you texted new

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<v Speaker 2>southe was Premier Chris Mints.

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<v Speaker 6>I did, and I haven't had a response from anyone

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<v Speaker 6>in the New South Wales government. I spoke to Sydney

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<v Speaker 6>Radio a couple of times today actually both their their

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<v Speaker 6>morning show and also in Drive the soufternoon, and I

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<v Speaker 6>understand that the radio station has been informed that they

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<v Speaker 6>have no intention of lighting up the Opera House, which

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<v Speaker 6>I think, I mean.

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<v Speaker 7>To me, this just seems like the most obvious thing

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<v Speaker 7>to do.

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<v Speaker 6>Reclaim the Opera House, reclaim the steps, light it up Orange,

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<v Speaker 6>show our solidarity with the rest of the world. From

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<v Speaker 6>China to Miamma, to Brazil to New York, everywhere these buildings.

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<v Speaker 7>Are bang lit up. But nowhere in Australia.

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<v Speaker 6>Parliament House is lit up tonight and I couldn't even

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<v Speaker 6>work out what it was.

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<v Speaker 7>It was all these weird colored dots all over the.

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<v Speaker 6>Front of Parliament House, I mean, the least they could

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<v Speaker 6>do is light up Parliament House. But I did an

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<v Speaker 6>need to a bit of Labor and honestly her response

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<v Speaker 6>was appalling.

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<v Speaker 5>The point is that I was making before is that

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<v Speaker 5>this is entirely political. This is entirely about this election

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<v Speaker 5>and all the attitudes of Burke and the Prime Minister.

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<v Speaker 5>Everything we've talked about tonight are all geared at harnessing

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<v Speaker 5>votes for the Labor Party.

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<v Speaker 7>They're on the ropes, know it.

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<v Speaker 5>And the cynicism and the lack of concern the integrity

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<v Speaker 5>of our own nation to self serve is just disgusting.

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<v Speaker 5>And if you go back and look at the character

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<v Speaker 5>with those two people, you find why are we surprised?

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<v Speaker 5>Whether you go back through mister Burke's sub diffusion in

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<v Speaker 5>so many issues, he wants to be the next prime minister.

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<v Speaker 5>He does, and he is doing everything he can from

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<v Speaker 5>changing induspilations laws to get the votes of the unions

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<v Speaker 5>when there's a new context. This is again flushing his credentials,

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<v Speaker 5>saying look at me, with all these additional people going

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<v Speaker 5>on the electoral role, look at me. Letting these people

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<v Speaker 5>go after the funeral will get their votes back in

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<v Speaker 5>everything he's doing is self serving and not in the

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<v Speaker 5>national interest. Heaven help us if they get back.

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<v Speaker 2>Indeed, all right, Holly Hughes Broman, Bishop, thank you votes

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<v Speaker 2>so much. Now still to come ahead of the funeral tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 2>the heart breaking words of Ariel Bibis's friend farmer. Israeli

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<v Speaker 2>government spokesman Elon Levy will join me after this quick break.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back and let's bring you now. Former Israeli government

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<v Speaker 2>spokesman and one of our favorite guests on the show,

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<v Speaker 2>Elon Levy. Elon, great to see you as always.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, it's going to be back sharing.

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<v Speaker 2>Tomorrow is going to be a completely heartbreaking day Wednesday,

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<v Speaker 2>Israel time. It's the funeral for Shiri, Ariel and baby Kafir.

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<v Speaker 2>This will be a private ceremony, but it will be

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<v Speaker 2>broadcast live. How are you feeling, how's all of Israel

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<v Speaker 2>feeling ahead of this?

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<v Speaker 8>Tomorrow is going to be one of the most heartbreaking

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<v Speaker 8>moments in Israel's history, a moment we thought was never

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<v Speaker 8>going to happen. That we are going to bury two

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<v Speaker 8>children who were snatched from their beds, brutally executed by

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<v Speaker 8>terrorists with their own bear hands, who then mutilated their

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<v Speaker 8>bodies to make it look like they were killed in

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<v Speaker 8>an Israeli air strike that was their cover story, and

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<v Speaker 8>then released them in a macabre dead baby parade, inviting

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<v Speaker 8>families from Gaza to watch, all set to music, sending

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<v Speaker 8>them back with a woman who wasn't even their mother.

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<v Speaker 8>This story has ignited anger in Israel, a reminder that

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<v Speaker 8>we knew Hamas was evil, we didn't know how evil

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<v Speaker 8>it really is. The Bibas children became a symbol of

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<v Speaker 8>the barbarity of the October seventh massacre. What Hamas did,

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<v Speaker 8>the abduction of children, holding them for a ransom. You know,

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<v Speaker 8>today is a very sad day. Today the Lift Ship's

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<v Speaker 8>family is burying or dead Lift Shits, an eighty three

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<v Speaker 8>year old peace activist who was also snatched from his bed,

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<v Speaker 8>murdered in captivity, and sent back in a grotesque spectacle.

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<v Speaker 8>And tomorrow the eyes of the whole nation are going

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<v Speaker 8>to be on this funeral, comforting poor Yard and Bebus,

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<v Speaker 8>who survived five hundred days in captivity. Wondering how on

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<v Speaker 8>earth someone recovers from such horrific trauma.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how he will ever be able to

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<v Speaker 2>move on from this trauma. Now it was really heartbreaking

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<v Speaker 2>to see these comments. The mother of Ariel Bibas's friend

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<v Speaker 2>yo Av, so five year old boy, has recounted how

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<v Speaker 2>she broke the news to her son. Have a look

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<v Speaker 2>at this, Arias.

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<v Speaker 8>And Benasamesh Beni Berlin ex.

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<v Speaker 2>Arielo medi so Elana. Again, this is something that even

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<v Speaker 2>children are trying to process. I mean, the trauma in

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<v Speaker 2>Israel runs deeper. A five year old boy trying to

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<v Speaker 2>understand why his friends not coming home.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, children have paid a horrible price for the October

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<v Speaker 8>seventh massacre and the ongoing October seventh hostage crisis.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 8>I interviewed just a while ago the wife of one

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<v Speaker 8>of the hostages in Gaza. His name is Omri Muran.

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<v Speaker 8>He's a father of two. He has been trapped in

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<v Speaker 8>the dungeons of Gaza for over five hundred days, and

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<v Speaker 8>he left behind two little children, two little daughters, who

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<v Speaker 8>were held at gunpoint in their home in near Oz,

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<v Speaker 8>only seven hundred meters away from the Gaza strip on

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<v Speaker 8>October seventh. And I asked the mother, Elishai, what are

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<v Speaker 8>you telling your children? How do you explain this to them?

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<v Speaker 8>And she said that her daughter, who was only three

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<v Speaker 8>at the time has flashbacks and memories of things that

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<v Speaker 8>even she the mother, had managed to suppress and had

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<v Speaker 8>forgotten about from the trauma of the moment that their

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<v Speaker 8>father was abducted. And this is a reminder there is

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<v Speaker 8>no such thing as humanitarian cases and other cases for

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<v Speaker 8>bringing the hostages back. All of the hostages are humanitarian cases.

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<v Speaker 8>Hostages like Alon Orhel who still has shrapnel in his

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<v Speaker 8>eye and is going blind in a dark underground tunnel

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<v Speaker 8>because he was abducted from a bomb shelter where hamas

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<v Speaker 8>through rocket grenades five hundred days ago. And humanitarian cases

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<v Speaker 8>like those who have left kids behind, and humanitarian cases

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<v Speaker 8>of people who are just being starved and tortured.

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<v Speaker 2>It's all utterly depraved and shocking. Elon, thank you very

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<v Speaker 2>much for joining us tonight. Really appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 8>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Now. We'll be back at the normal time eight o'clock tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 2>but stay tuned. Now we've got Danika di Giorgio in

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<v Speaker 2>the man Cave filling in for Paul Marray.