WEBVTT - #1995 Young For Your Age - Dr. Denise Furness

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, eighteen, it's it's Tiff, it's it's the dock, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's a fatty harps a bloke in the middle on

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<v Speaker 1>my screen. Anyway, we hope you're fucking great because it's

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<v Speaker 1>how we are. I mean we we just every night,

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<v Speaker 1>the three of us get together, well sometimes Denise unless

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<v Speaker 1>she's got stuff on, but we say, dear, sweet baby Jesus,

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<v Speaker 1>just look after the flock, Just protect them, hold them

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<v Speaker 1>in your hand, just love them. And it's it's how

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<v Speaker 1>we roll. Tip. We're all about love and compassion, aren't we.

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<v Speaker 2>We are until you bang on way too close to

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<v Speaker 2>the mic and I get upset with you, and then

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<v Speaker 2>there's a little bit less than compassion.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so just today, all through the podcast, I just

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<v Speaker 1>want you to go too close when I get too close?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, too close?

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<v Speaker 1>Am I too close? Now?

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<v Speaker 2>As soon as we started, you settled on up there

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<v Speaker 2>and blew the.

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<v Speaker 1>Trying to start with a bit of warmth and a

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<v Speaker 1>bit of love and.

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<v Speaker 3>A feeling excitement. It's just the excitement and the enthusiasm

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<v Speaker 3>because you love this so much, you just get in there.

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<v Speaker 1>I dig it, I dig it. It's like people like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you work so much I go this is the bit

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<v Speaker 1>of the day that doesn't feel like work.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, and when you love it, because that's what I

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<v Speaker 3>keep telling myself. You can perform at a very high

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<v Speaker 3>level and do five, six hundred and eighty two things

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<v Speaker 3>in a week.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you? Though? But we really we did talk about

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<v Speaker 1>over commitment before we went live, and you did put

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<v Speaker 1>up your hand and say, yeah, that's me. But next

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<v Speaker 1>year it'll be different, and Tiff laughed in your face.

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<v Speaker 1>And when fucking everyone says that, but it's never any different.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe we can direct doctor Denise ti Yesterday's podcast on

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<v Speaker 2>the psychology of enough.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe we can do that.

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<v Speaker 3>I can listen to it on the plane I have

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<v Speaker 3>though I chose this, I asked the universe for it,

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<v Speaker 3>so there's no complaints. But there's a little bit of

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<v Speaker 3>like I have seven more trips between now and the

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<v Speaker 3>end of the year, two more to the US, another

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<v Speaker 3>one to London, Hong Kong, Dublin and quick back here

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<v Speaker 3>you know, Sydney. Gig Like it's a lot, but it's

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<v Speaker 3>such an exciting time. People are pumped for this information.

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<v Speaker 3>I love sharing it. There's such huge events, like since

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<v Speaker 3>I've seen you so many amazing things have happened. I've

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<v Speaker 3>got an invite to Westminster Palace.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you know that.

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<v Speaker 3>I was chatting to King Charles's doctor. I didn't know

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<v Speaker 3>it was King Charles's doctor, which maybe is a good

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<v Speaker 3>thing because I might have then been a weirdo because

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<v Speaker 3>I would have been like, you know, like intimidated or

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<v Speaker 3>feeling a little bit out of my my sir, But

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't know who he was. I knew he was

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<v Speaker 3>an important doctor. He was kind of running the event

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<v Speaker 3>at the Palace with the ex advisor, the Surgeon General

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<v Speaker 3>to Biden. Amazing people talking about changing healthcare. But there's

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<v Speaker 3>all this exciting stuff going on in the world and

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<v Speaker 3>I just want to be a part of all of it.

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<v Speaker 3>But when you live in Australia, you are so far

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<v Speaker 3>away from all the good shit.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah we are, but I mean there is some good

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<v Speaker 1>shit here. But I get what you say saying but

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<v Speaker 1>you have the opportunity to bring the good shit back,

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<v Speaker 1>to share it on the good ship Lollipop that is

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<v Speaker 1>the you project, and download some of try and keep

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<v Speaker 1>it user friendly with you because TIF and I are

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<v Speaker 1>not the sharpest tools in the shed. Our audience are

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<v Speaker 1>all journey I, but we're too dumb. Fuck, So if

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<v Speaker 1>you can kind of keep it at our level, that'd

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<v Speaker 1>be great. So what are people taking you or dragging

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<v Speaker 1>you overseas? Four Like, is it just you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>personalized guiding and medicine and all of that stuff broadly

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<v Speaker 1>or is it specific topics where you're doing like a

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<v Speaker 1>one off at a.

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<v Speaker 3>Conference, a couple of different things. When I become a

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<v Speaker 3>smarter business woman, it might be a one off and

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<v Speaker 3>then I'm delivering the same thing and it's not such

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<v Speaker 3>an effort at the moment. There's at are different things.

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<v Speaker 3>But so what I was doing just before I opped

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<v Speaker 3>on the podcast was actually an article for Men's Health.

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<v Speaker 3>So I've published the study that that healthy aging study

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<v Speaker 3>I did back in twenty twenty three, and we had

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<v Speaker 3>some great results with three and six month interventions around

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<v Speaker 3>whole food, diet, exercise. Paul Taylor was in there as

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<v Speaker 3>the exercise physiologist and using his app to help people

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<v Speaker 3>with the exercise part. So we had dietary stuff and

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<v Speaker 3>supplements all these things, and we had great results. Testing

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<v Speaker 3>biological age and I think you and I have talked

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<v Speaker 3>about this on previous podcasts. So chronological age is your birthday,

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<v Speaker 3>but you have this sort of cellular age biological age,

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<v Speaker 3>which we now have testing for and in Australia at

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<v Speaker 3>the end of twenty twenty two, the first tests were

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<v Speaker 3>really launched here and I jumped on that one because

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<v Speaker 3>I was asked by the company to do some education,

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<v Speaker 3>but also because I love this area. But I hadn't

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<v Speaker 3>used the test and was probably discussed on an earlier

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<v Speaker 3>podcast because I know we talked about meed sort of

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<v Speaker 3>doing this and moving into this area, But I said

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<v Speaker 3>to the distributor, even though I know epigenetics and have

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<v Speaker 3>a PhD in methylation, I've not used these tests. So

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<v Speaker 3>within a very short amount of time with my ideas,

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<v Speaker 3>Ding Ding Ding, I was like, oh, we'll get ten people,

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<v Speaker 3>and then we'll get thirty people, and we ended up

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<v Speaker 3>enrolling sixty people to do this test, put together an

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<v Speaker 3>intervention and see if we can actually improve biological age,

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<v Speaker 3>because I thought, well, I'm not going to one do

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<v Speaker 3>education on it if I don't know it, but also

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<v Speaker 3>two can we actually even change biological age in a

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<v Speaker 3>certain timeframe, Like as a practitioner, do I think this

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<v Speaker 3>is a test that's worthy to bring in and do

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<v Speaker 3>with my patients because there's a lot of hype online,

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<v Speaker 3>but you know, can we actually change improve biological age?

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<v Speaker 3>And the results were great. It's taken me this long

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<v Speaker 3>to get it out to the world. I only analyze

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<v Speaker 3>the data last Christmas. But there's a huge interest in

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<v Speaker 3>longevity at the moment. So there's that part that I'm presenting,

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<v Speaker 3>which is exciting. But then also this personalized medicine because

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<v Speaker 3>I do all the genetics and we're looking at differences

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<v Speaker 3>and diets, personalized nutrition, and that is a huge which

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<v Speaker 3>thing at the moment. So one of the conferences I

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<v Speaker 3>went to, which was completely different, It was fascinating in Singapore,

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<v Speaker 3>was a little bit more business orientated, and part of

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<v Speaker 3>me loved it. Part of me was frustrated as hell

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<v Speaker 3>because as the scientist, I like the science the mechanism.

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<v Speaker 3>Because it was a bit more business ye sometimes that

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<v Speaker 3>you didn't give you all the information. They just want

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<v Speaker 3>to sell stuff to you in a sense. There was

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<v Speaker 3>a guy talking about drinks with neurotropics, you know, how

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<v Speaker 3>to make you smarter and concentrate.

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<v Speaker 1>More, sure do it's one of my favorite topics and neutropics. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so he was.

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<v Speaker 3>There and you know, and me when I go to

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<v Speaker 3>these conferences and me who ship tells everyone everything. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>tell me the ingredients, tell me what's in it. But

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<v Speaker 3>he sort of gave you half the story. But everyone

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<v Speaker 3>kind of needs it. But anyway, the point of telling

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<v Speaker 3>about that conference is they made it really clear the

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<v Speaker 3>top three areas of health at the moment of personalized nutrition,

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<v Speaker 3>slized medicine what I do, longevity, which is obviously the

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<v Speaker 3>space we're moving into iological age, and then GLP one

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<v Speaker 3>weight loss, which we all know. So they're the big

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<v Speaker 3>three areas. And I work really closely in two of those.

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<v Speaker 3>And have you know, with my background genetics epigenetics for

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<v Speaker 3>twenty years, so all of a sudden, the knowledge I

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<v Speaker 3>have and the things I'm doing a really interesting interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>I just accidentally blocked Denise.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, unblocker, Denise, you've been muted. Perhaps has muted you.

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<v Speaker 1>Denise. This is a thing, Denise, you just need to

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<v Speaker 1>press the unmute thing. I didn't do it. Yes, stay tip,

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<v Speaker 1>I promise.

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<v Speaker 3>I now I can't believe you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd promise, I promise, and we're back. Sorry, everyone, I

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<v Speaker 1>just accidentally muted the doc when she was so.

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<v Speaker 3>He muted me and said you talk too fucking much,

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<v Speaker 3>and I haven't had space to say anything.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I did not say now, you're a fucking fibber dibber.

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<v Speaker 1>You know you're way more interesting than me. Nobody including me,

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<v Speaker 1>wants you to stop, So keep going, keep going.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, actually you probably did me a favor because I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not sure when you muted me, but I was trying

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<v Speaker 3>to spit something out and I said it about four

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<v Speaker 3>times and about it stumbling.

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<v Speaker 2>That's at the point that I thought you muted yourself

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<v Speaker 2>when that happened because you were struggling.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I was trying to say, yeah, because when I

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<v Speaker 3>do speak an event, then there's an interest in what

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<v Speaker 3>I do. And I kept saying interesting, but I want

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<v Speaker 3>to say they're interested, and then that leads to the

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<v Speaker 3>next thing, the next thing. And a lot of these

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<v Speaker 3>events I've been at have been very high caliber, as

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<v Speaker 3>I said in London, and I've got Longevity Fest in

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<v Speaker 3>the US, and I'm going over in October for another

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<v Speaker 3>trip to the US as a thought leader with some

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<v Speaker 3>amazing practitioners, so wonderful opportunities to talk about how we

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<v Speaker 3>can move medicine healthcare forward. Moving to a proactive model.

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<v Speaker 3>So lots of really fantastic conversations and I love being

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<v Speaker 3>a part of it. I feel blessed. But it's a

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<v Speaker 3>lot when you're a mom, and it's lots of flights

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<v Speaker 3>and clinic and all that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>It is. It's funny because you talk about high performance

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<v Speaker 1>and longevity and cognitive function and eutropics and all things

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<v Speaker 1>optimal you but in the middle of talking about all

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<v Speaker 1>of these things, all three of us who kind of

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<v Speaker 1>work vaguely in that different areas but overall same, how

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<v Speaker 1>do we think better, do better, be better, look, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>be biologically more efficient and all of those things. It's

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<v Speaker 1>funny you can run yourself down well ironically talking about

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<v Speaker 1>how to be optimal to others. So I guess self management,

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<v Speaker 1>self awareness and self regulation is important for you in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of your own body and your own mind and

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<v Speaker 1>your own energy.

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<v Speaker 3>Huge, huge, and I have to take really good care

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<v Speaker 3>of myself. And I think we had a really random

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<v Speaker 3>chat on one of the last podcasts about how when

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<v Speaker 3>I was in Jubai at the end of last year

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<v Speaker 3>and I had what I thought was a bit of

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<v Speaker 3>a hot flash with perimenopause, but then realized when I

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<v Speaker 3>went through a menopause doctor, actually it was more likely

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<v Speaker 3>to be an anxiety like a panic attack, because I

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<v Speaker 3>said to her it was the end of the I've

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<v Speaker 3>done multiple talks that come from Saudi tod Jubai. I've

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<v Speaker 3>got this hot flash. I just couldn't get my breath.

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<v Speaker 3>I was up there and she said, oh, that's that's

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<v Speaker 3>actually a panic attack, that's common in perimenopause. You're like wonderful.

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<v Speaker 3>So since then, I really have made a big effort

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<v Speaker 3>to rest as much as possible. And I'm lucky I'm

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<v Speaker 3>flying business class. I wouldn't go. I couldn't do it

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<v Speaker 3>any other way. So I'm resting on the plane. But

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<v Speaker 3>I'm very strict, actually probably stricter with sort of taking

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<v Speaker 3>care of myself when I'm away than when I'm at home.

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<v Speaker 3>So in the morning, I'm having my greens powders. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>trying to get out and walk see the sun straight away,

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<v Speaker 3>kind of get that circadian rhythm sorted, going to bed

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<v Speaker 3>to de decent now and not drinking alcohol. And even

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<v Speaker 3>if there's been a few no's to even dinners, like

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<v Speaker 3>sometimes they'll put on an event for me because I've

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<v Speaker 3>come and I'm actually better now at just saying I'm

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<v Speaker 3>really sorry, I'm really tired. I need to rest so

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<v Speaker 3>that I can be at my best when I'm on

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<v Speaker 3>stage tomorrow or whatever it may be. So, yeah, just

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<v Speaker 3>being very conscious of mind energy output.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like sometimes when you're talking about all these

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<v Speaker 1>high level things like neutropics and you know, genetic optimization

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<v Speaker 1>and all of which are important and fascinating and moving forward,

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a big part of how we operate

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<v Speaker 1>and optimize our health, I guess. But at the same time,

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<v Speaker 1>if we go down to level one, the basement, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>where we're talking about sleep, we're talking about managing anxiety,

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about good nutrition, we're talking about moving your body,

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about lifting a few weights. I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>some people want to bypass the basement stuff to get

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<v Speaker 1>to level two. You know, it's like, you know what's

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<v Speaker 1>great for cognitive function? Sleep? Yeah? Oh what neotropic? How

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<v Speaker 1>about you fucking the sleep? Let's try that, because that

0:11:47.640 --> 0:11:51.640
<v Speaker 1>is overwhelmingly the best thing you can do for your brain. Second,

0:11:52.040 --> 0:11:54.840
<v Speaker 1>cut down on booze because that's fucking up your neurons.

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<v Speaker 1>That's fucking up your brain. Thirdly, don't be dehydrated also

0:11:59.120 --> 0:12:01.480
<v Speaker 1>makes you stupid, Like I forget the numbers, but you

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<v Speaker 1>could probably tell us it's a small percentage of being

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<v Speaker 1>dehydrated as she drinks some water that decreases our IQ

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<v Speaker 1>do you know what I mean? And it's so funny

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<v Speaker 1>when I talk about this in a corporate gig. I

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<v Speaker 1>talk about the impact of consistent or regular dehydration on

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<v Speaker 1>your body and tears drinking as well. And then all

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<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, there's two hundred people in a room,

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and ninety five of drinking water, and they

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<v Speaker 1>don't they don't even laugh, They don't even realize that

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<v Speaker 1>they're but they all recognize, or a lot of them

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<v Speaker 1>recognize that they don't. They literally don't drink enough. And

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<v Speaker 1>it makes you stupid because your brains whatever ninety percent water.

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<v Speaker 3>It's so true, and the sleep part of it. I

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<v Speaker 3>have my little routine now, and this is definitely not

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<v Speaker 3>for every listener because we're all different and shod work

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<v Speaker 3>with a practitioner. But my little routine that just works

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<v Speaker 3>so beautifully for me is Elthenine or love ealthine. Chiff's nodding.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you take lthene as well?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I take two and gabber for me.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's a nice product that I picked up, which

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<v Speaker 3>actually I think we can get here in Australia now,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's got elthenine, gabba rodiola, a few other little

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<v Speaker 3>things in it. But even just straight elthenine, it has

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<v Speaker 3>to be at least two hundred milligrams, so I track.

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<v Speaker 3>I just took my whoop off because you get too

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<v Speaker 3>close to your microphone. I bang my hands and then

0:13:19.440 --> 0:13:21.439
<v Speaker 3>it hits on there and I did that. I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll take that off because my husband always lets me

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<v Speaker 3>know how annoying it is when I bang the microphone

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<v Speaker 3>and hit my hands on there and make noises. But

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<v Speaker 3>when I have lthanine, I see that my deep sleep

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<v Speaker 3>increases one hundred milligrams, which is often what they say

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<v Speaker 3>you need. I don't have any change. I personally need

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<v Speaker 3>two hundred milligrams. I know some people have more than that,

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<v Speaker 3>but you know, definitely don't want to have more than

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<v Speaker 3>the recommend a dose unless you're working with someone. But

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<v Speaker 3>the lthenine magnesium glacinate and very low melatonin like one

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<v Speaker 3>point five milligrams, And that's obviously for when I'm traveling

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<v Speaker 3>in a different time zones, but that is just beautiful.

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<v Speaker 3>I sleep really well. So now I've got my little

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<v Speaker 3>thing where I know I can get and it doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>matter what time of day it is, if I can

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<v Speaker 3>just be calm, because it's not just taking the supplements.

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<v Speaker 3>If you've been jumping around and you're on the screen,

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<v Speaker 3>that's obviously going to affect you. It is about sort

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<v Speaker 3>of winding down doing the lifestyle stuff as well. But

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<v Speaker 3>that little combination works, and maybe it's even a bit

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<v Speaker 3>of a placebo, like I know all those things work,

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<v Speaker 3>but it makes me think I'm going to sleep, because

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<v Speaker 3>one of my biggest issues with all the international travel

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<v Speaker 3>was that I wouldn't sleep. You're on the other side

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<v Speaker 3>of the world and it's daytime in Australia and I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not sleeping, and then I've got to get up and perform.

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<v Speaker 3>Whereas now my sleep is much much better when I travel.

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<v Speaker 3>But I also walk as much as I can. I

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<v Speaker 3>try to make time if I can in the morning

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<v Speaker 3>and seeing a bit of sunlight, like just getting out

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<v Speaker 3>and moving my body as well. Once upon a time,

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<v Speaker 3>I'd be so tired, I'd be like, oh, just stay

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<v Speaker 3>in the hotel room. I'm just going to cheer. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>going to unpack my bag, have a shower, and just hibernate.

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<v Speaker 3>Now I'm like, get it. If it's daytime, it's like

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<v Speaker 3>get outside, like it doesn't matter how you feel, move

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<v Speaker 3>my body and it's and I sleep so much better

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<v Speaker 3>as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you tell us a little bit about the protocol

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<v Speaker 1>for the biological age evaluation? What does that look like?

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<v Speaker 1>What is that? What are the bits and pieces.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's from a dietary perspective, relatively high protein because

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<v Speaker 3>there's the assumption that everyone's exercising at least thirty minutes

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<v Speaker 3>a day, and there's three strength training sessions. So the

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<v Speaker 3>protein was one point six to two grams of protein

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<v Speaker 3>per kilo of ideal body weight, so it doesn't mean

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<v Speaker 3>your total body weight. If you are ten kilos overweight,

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<v Speaker 3>then a little bit less. So relatively high protein with

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<v Speaker 3>the assumption that we are building some muscle, and we

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<v Speaker 3>had people do DEXes and they did lose weight and

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<v Speaker 3>build muscle. From a vegetable perspective, it's six serves of

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<v Speaker 3>veggies a day for those listening, a serve of cooked vegetables.

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<v Speaker 3>So let's say you got your sweet potato or your broccoli.

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<v Speaker 3>It's half a cup. It's not very much at all.

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<v Speaker 3>So six serves in total, and that is including two

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<v Speaker 3>serves of chrysiferous chrysiferous things like broccoli, cauliflower, brussel sprouts,

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<v Speaker 3>so they've got things in them that really support what

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<v Speaker 3>we call liver health and detoxification and things like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Great for metabolizing hormones and stuff as well for women

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<v Speaker 3>that need that so chrysiferous. Two serves of greens. One

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<v Speaker 3>of the biggest questions is if I have broccoli, is

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<v Speaker 3>that a serve of greens as well? The answer is no,

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<v Speaker 3>you need to have two serves of greens, whether that's

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<v Speaker 3>spinach or other leafy greens, and then two serves of

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<v Speaker 3>colored so red, orange, yellow. All those what we call

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<v Speaker 3>phitronutrients in the colors are amazing antioxidants. You know a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of people supplement with all of these crazy things,

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<v Speaker 3>but the truth is you get them in these colored vegetables.

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<v Speaker 3>So the different colors, the different types of veggies, you

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<v Speaker 3>get all these things to support your gut, all these

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<v Speaker 3>natural antioxidants, all this beautiful fiber. So six serves of veggies,

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<v Speaker 3>it's not a ketogenic diet. There is whole grains, fermented

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<v Speaker 3>food if people can tolerate it, at least one server

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<v Speaker 3>a day, as many and spices as you want, and

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<v Speaker 3>a serve of nuts and seeds and two serves of fruit.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's quite a lot of food. We had some

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<v Speaker 3>people saying this is a lot of food. We had

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<v Speaker 3>others who didn't think it was much because they were

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<v Speaker 3>getting rid of all the carbs and all of a

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<v Speaker 3>sudden they felt like they needed to eat more. But

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<v Speaker 3>it's definitely not a low food diet in the sense of, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>plenty of whole foods. That's the food component. We got

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<v Speaker 3>the exercise component, the supplements, and again, of course work

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<v Speaker 3>with a practitioner or at least speak to a pharmacist

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<v Speaker 3>or someone before you jump in. I definitely don't recommend

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<v Speaker 3>self prescribing. But we had a bee complex, and that

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<v Speaker 3>was a methylated bee complex to support something called methylation,

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<v Speaker 3>which is sort of all the epigenetic stuff there things

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<v Speaker 3>sitting on the DNA, so methylated bees ubiquanol, which is

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<v Speaker 3>an active form of co Q ten. This supports your mitochondria,

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<v Speaker 3>your batteries. That was two hundred milligrams. So the research

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<v Speaker 3>which most of the research shows that around one hundred

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<v Speaker 3>milligrams to three hundred milligrams is really beneficial for cardiovascular health,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, longevity, reducing oxidative stress. So I sort of

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<v Speaker 3>went in the middle two hundred milligrams and then I

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<v Speaker 3>had nigotinamide ribocide. So for those of your you'll have

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<v Speaker 3>probably a ton of listeners that are sort of fitt

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<v Speaker 3>into that almost biohackery lito, MNN and the NAD precursors.

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<v Speaker 3>So the only one that's regulated and approved here in

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<v Speaker 3>Australia so far with TGA out of all those different

0:18:32.680 --> 0:18:36.200
<v Speaker 3>things that everyone sees online is called nicotimind riboside NR.

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<v Speaker 3>Very low dose one hundred milligrams, So for those people

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<v Speaker 3>that do look at online these supplements sometimes there's really

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<v Speaker 3>high doses. Everything I did was sort of standard or

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<v Speaker 3>lower dose, something called rerisperratrol, and then a bit of

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<v Speaker 3>a complex that had NAC sulfur of fame which comes

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<v Speaker 3>from the chrysiferous vegetables, and a few things to support

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<v Speaker 3>liver health. So those five supplements, and if someone was

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<v Speaker 3>not eating oily fish, so we recommended a couple of

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<v Speaker 3>serves of oily fish, particularly small oily fish, sardines. If

0:19:09.520 --> 0:19:11.960
<v Speaker 3>people like them, I know lots of people don't. I

0:19:12.040 --> 0:19:15.600
<v Speaker 3>don't either. Unfortunately, do you eat sardines.

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<v Speaker 1>Them, Tiff, Yeah, I'm.

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<v Speaker 3>Just because they're good for me. All the Amiga three

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<v Speaker 3>because they're small fish, they don't accumulate all the environmental pollutants.

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<v Speaker 3>They're not getting the mercury, they're not getting all the

0:19:30.680 --> 0:19:32.680
<v Speaker 3>crap that we threw in the ocean. So they're really

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<v Speaker 3>a good source of protein and amiga threes. But if

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<v Speaker 3>people aren't eating small oily fish, we educated them on

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<v Speaker 3>the importance of amiga threes. A lot of people aren't

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<v Speaker 3>getting enough. And there's this issue and I think you've

0:19:43.640 --> 0:19:47.359
<v Speaker 3>had many speakers on your podcast before great talking about

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<v Speaker 3>that Amiga six Amiga three ratio, the importance of healthy,

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<v Speaker 3>healthy fats, so reducing those you know, seed oils, Amiga

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<v Speaker 3>six's improving your Amiga threes. And then vitamin D was

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<v Speaker 3>not Stan did supplement, but we did do blood testing

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<v Speaker 3>and if someone was deficient in iron or vitamin D,

0:20:06.080 --> 0:20:10.880
<v Speaker 3>we would talk about that with them. So and then mindfulness,

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<v Speaker 3>which is up your alley five to ten minutes of

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<v Speaker 3>mindfulness a day. There were some guided meditations and mindfulness

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<v Speaker 3>suggestions and apps provided and most of them did it.

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<v Speaker 3>To be honest, this was not part of the protocol

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<v Speaker 3>initially but got thrown in and most people loved it.

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<v Speaker 3>Was cold showers.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, sounds like Paul Tyler thing. You know.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a full tailor thing. It was not in

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<v Speaker 3>the protocol protocol. And then because we had group sessions

0:20:41.119 --> 0:20:44.480
<v Speaker 3>every fortnite to talk to people about other things as well,

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<v Speaker 3>like reducing chemicals and toxins in your environment because that affects,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, biological age, and so we had these are

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<v Speaker 3>the sessions every fortnight, and he said the cold showers.

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<v Speaker 3>I would say to the listeners that cold showers. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>there's quite a bit of evidence, and it sort of

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<v Speaker 3>builds that that was rezilience and the kind of cohort

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<v Speaker 3>we had in the study, most of them were able

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<v Speaker 3>to tolerate that really well. But I also work with

0:21:08.200 --> 0:21:12.520
<v Speaker 3>some people that have chronic fatigue or long term stress,

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<v Speaker 3>and they're just a little bit more vulnerable, and I

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<v Speaker 3>don't want to add any more stress straight away, so

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<v Speaker 3>I am still a little bit cautious with the cold showers,

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<v Speaker 3>although we have tons of great evidence for it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think It's really important with all of this to

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<v Speaker 1>point out that, you know, everything needs to be on

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<v Speaker 1>an individual level. You need to see how your body

0:21:33.520 --> 0:21:36.720
<v Speaker 1>responds to that. So you're right. For some people, cold showers,

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<v Speaker 1>as Paul Taylor says, tikety boo amazing. For other people,

0:21:40.760 --> 0:21:43.359
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't create an amazing result. Just like two people

0:21:43.680 --> 0:21:46.879
<v Speaker 1>with the same condition take the same medicine and they

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<v Speaker 1>get totally different outcomes because they don't live in the

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<v Speaker 1>same body and they don't have the same responses to

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<v Speaker 1>the same stimulize. So it's trying to figure out what's

0:21:55.240 --> 0:21:59.399
<v Speaker 1>optimal for me ergo personalized medicine. But that even with

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<v Speaker 1>something like where people talk about mindfulness and meditation, and

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<v Speaker 1>quite rightly, as you said, this is up your ally.

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<v Speaker 1>I fucking hate min mindfulness and meditation me personally, like

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<v Speaker 1>me sitting on the floor or in a you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just I don't work like that. But I realized that

0:22:15.960 --> 0:22:18.040
<v Speaker 1>a lot of other people get great benefit from it.

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<v Speaker 1>So my advice is, see if that works for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I feel way more relaxed walking at the beach,

0:22:28.520 --> 0:22:31.600
<v Speaker 1>walking at the beach, like listening to something awesome or

0:22:31.640 --> 0:22:38.840
<v Speaker 1>listening to nothing. I feel ironically and almost counterintuitively more relaxed.

0:22:38.960 --> 0:22:43.080
<v Speaker 1>Riding a motorbike, I feel, you know, just being obviously

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<v Speaker 1>not in bumper a bumper traffic, but riding a motorbike,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel really calm, I feel happy. My energy is great,

0:22:49.560 --> 0:22:53.760
<v Speaker 1>I believe it, or not, very relaxed. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>that whole thing of I do this, and this was

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<v Speaker 1>the outcome, which is definitely not what you're saying. So

0:22:59.400 --> 0:23:02.600
<v Speaker 1>therefore you you should do that. This will help your body. No,

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<v Speaker 1>this might help your body. Let's see, let's see how

0:23:06.560 --> 0:23:10.199
<v Speaker 1>you respond. Now, I will backtrack a little bit. That

0:23:10.320 --> 0:23:12.520
<v Speaker 1>was a beautiful answer that you gave, but to the

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<v Speaker 1>wrong question I asked you. I didn't ask you what

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<v Speaker 1>your protocol was or what that I asked you about

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<v Speaker 1>getting the biological age test done that protocol so.

0:23:24.320 --> 0:23:27.639
<v Speaker 3>You wanted to know more? No, No, I mean to

0:23:27.680 --> 0:23:29.240
<v Speaker 3>reduce their biological age.

0:23:29.280 --> 0:23:30.840
<v Speaker 1>I know I would have got to that, but you

0:23:30.920 --> 0:23:33.720
<v Speaker 1>shared it anyway, and it was beautiful. But just because

0:23:34.000 --> 0:23:36.840
<v Speaker 1>here's what happens. Every time I talk about biological age,

0:23:37.280 --> 0:23:41.560
<v Speaker 1>not versus but in contrast to chronological age, I have

0:23:41.640 --> 0:23:44.160
<v Speaker 1>at least five people ten people come up and go, oh,

0:23:44.160 --> 0:23:47.000
<v Speaker 1>that's really interesting. Where can I get it done? So

0:23:47.720 --> 0:23:53.240
<v Speaker 1>what is the protocol to assess your biological age that

0:23:53.359 --> 0:23:56.400
<v Speaker 1>you did or that you use?

0:23:56.920 --> 0:24:00.600
<v Speaker 3>So I used a company. They're in America. They're called

0:24:01.040 --> 0:24:04.080
<v Speaker 3>True Diagnostic and I get no you know, blacks of

0:24:04.160 --> 0:24:06.879
<v Speaker 3>money from the test. But that was the test that

0:24:07.000 --> 0:24:11.840
<v Speaker 3>was first distributed here in Australia. And it has some

0:24:11.960 --> 0:24:16.160
<v Speaker 3>really great markers in it in that there are some

0:24:16.240 --> 0:24:18.679
<v Speaker 3>things like what we call a duneat and pace that

0:24:18.760 --> 0:24:21.040
<v Speaker 3>talks about your pace of aging. Some of the listeners

0:24:21.119 --> 0:24:23.600
<v Speaker 3>might have heard about that, like big biohackers like Brian

0:24:23.680 --> 0:24:26.679
<v Speaker 3>Johnson talks about how he slowed his age and so

0:24:26.760 --> 0:24:31.720
<v Speaker 3>it has that in it. It has some other biological

0:24:31.760 --> 0:24:35.400
<v Speaker 3>age assessments. One of them is called the intrinsic age

0:24:35.840 --> 0:24:38.200
<v Speaker 3>which he's linked to a guy called Stephen Horvath, who

0:24:38.240 --> 0:24:40.440
<v Speaker 3>by the way, I met in London and now linked

0:24:40.440 --> 0:24:43.400
<v Speaker 3>with his clock foundation dropping more names as an additional

0:24:43.640 --> 0:24:46.080
<v Speaker 3>look at you gu So he's really the father of

0:24:46.119 --> 0:24:49.119
<v Speaker 3>the biological age testing. He brought out the first epigenetic

0:24:49.320 --> 0:24:52.160
<v Speaker 3>or biological age clock that sort of looked was able

0:24:52.200 --> 0:24:54.679
<v Speaker 3>to measure biological agental tissue. So there's one based on

0:24:54.760 --> 0:24:58.200
<v Speaker 3>his algorithm The point is that the true diagnostic has

0:24:58.320 --> 0:25:02.080
<v Speaker 3>lots of different biological age tests. Now it's not always

0:25:02.119 --> 0:25:06.960
<v Speaker 3>easy to interpret because different companies, different tests that have

0:25:07.040 --> 0:25:10.800
<v Speaker 3>come out over the last decade, assess biological age differently,

0:25:11.280 --> 0:25:13.400
<v Speaker 3>So you need to be cautious if you are going

0:25:13.440 --> 0:25:15.760
<v Speaker 3>to do a test, you want to be looking at

0:25:15.800 --> 0:25:18.760
<v Speaker 3>the same test that's using the same you know, if

0:25:18.760 --> 0:25:20.880
<v Speaker 3>they're looking at methylation, which is what I'm looking at

0:25:20.960 --> 0:25:23.480
<v Speaker 3>changes on the DNA that are linked with aging that

0:25:23.640 --> 0:25:26.200
<v Speaker 3>same test, because you can't compare one to the other.

0:25:26.400 --> 0:25:29.040
<v Speaker 3>It's not like genetics, like if you've got MTHFR and

0:25:29.080 --> 0:25:32.000
<v Speaker 3>you're a TT, doesn't matter what company you go to.

0:25:32.600 --> 0:25:34.639
<v Speaker 3>That's what you got from your parents. Your genes will

0:25:34.680 --> 0:25:39.440
<v Speaker 3>never change. But epigenetics, these biological age tests, different people

0:25:39.480 --> 0:25:42.239
<v Speaker 3>are coming out with different ways to assess it. So

0:25:42.280 --> 0:25:46.800
<v Speaker 3>there's one called PhenoAge which is very popular. It's been

0:25:47.480 --> 0:25:50.840
<v Speaker 3>reproduced in multiple cohorts, lots of studies. It's more based

0:25:50.840 --> 0:25:55.320
<v Speaker 3>on metabolic health blood markers CRP, which is inflammation, liver enzymes,

0:25:55.359 --> 0:25:57.760
<v Speaker 3>things like that. So some are more around metabolic health

0:25:58.520 --> 0:26:01.919
<v Speaker 3>linking with more d A damage. So there's quite a

0:26:01.920 --> 0:26:05.399
<v Speaker 3>few on the market now. And I would look for

0:26:05.480 --> 0:26:09.040
<v Speaker 3>a practitioner that does this kind of testing or or

0:26:09.960 --> 0:26:10.920
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if this is.

0:26:11.000 --> 0:26:13.760
<v Speaker 1>A appropriate and uh color is whatever it is.

0:26:14.440 --> 0:26:19.359
<v Speaker 3>I have a calculator that you can plug your blood

0:26:19.359 --> 0:26:22.120
<v Speaker 3>results in that matches the pheno age, which has been

0:26:22.480 --> 0:26:24.920
<v Speaker 3>shown to be valid, and you can work it out yourself,

0:26:25.080 --> 0:26:26.880
<v Speaker 3>like just having your full blood count and your liver

0:26:27.000 --> 0:26:30.960
<v Speaker 3>enzymes and you're inflammatory markers. I will tell everyone the

0:26:30.960 --> 0:26:33.399
<v Speaker 3>pheno age is great. I come out like a decade younger.

0:26:33.440 --> 0:26:37.280
<v Speaker 3>I love it, of course, but there are other biological

0:26:37.320 --> 0:26:39.600
<v Speaker 3>age tests where I don't come out so young, So

0:26:39.680 --> 0:26:42.640
<v Speaker 3>some of them will always predict you a little bit higher.

0:26:42.760 --> 0:26:45.199
<v Speaker 3>That's how that goes, and some of them always come

0:26:45.200 --> 0:26:46.920
<v Speaker 3>out a bit younger. But if you come out older

0:26:46.960 --> 0:26:49.719
<v Speaker 3>in the pheno age, you've got work to do. You

0:26:49.760 --> 0:26:51.920
<v Speaker 3>are on the road for chronic illness or you probably

0:26:51.960 --> 0:26:55.720
<v Speaker 3>already have one, or you've got what we call accelerated aging,

0:26:55.720 --> 0:26:58.320
<v Speaker 3>and you're more likely to get these age related conditions.

0:26:58.359 --> 0:27:00.800
<v Speaker 3>So there's a lot we know now. We're really the

0:27:00.840 --> 0:27:04.479
<v Speaker 3>first generation to understand the molecular things that happen at

0:27:04.480 --> 0:27:07.120
<v Speaker 3>a level cellular level with aging. And what I will

0:27:07.160 --> 0:27:10.320
<v Speaker 3>say to everyone is you can undo this even if

0:27:10.359 --> 0:27:13.080
<v Speaker 3>you're biologically older, like I came out the first time,

0:27:14.800 --> 0:27:17.040
<v Speaker 3>coming off the back of having Graves disease and caring

0:27:17.080 --> 0:27:19.320
<v Speaker 3>for parents and stresses. There's so much that you can

0:27:19.400 --> 0:27:21.879
<v Speaker 3>do even in a short amount of time. But with

0:27:21.960 --> 0:27:24.600
<v Speaker 3>the testing you can do it yourself with blood bio markers,

0:27:24.720 --> 0:27:28.080
<v Speaker 3>or if you want epigenetic testing, you need to work

0:27:28.119 --> 0:27:30.960
<v Speaker 3>with someone like me. Not that I'm seeing anyone in

0:27:31.000 --> 0:27:33.320
<v Speaker 3>the moment, but little plug, I'm going to have a

0:27:33.359 --> 0:27:36.240
<v Speaker 3>retreat next year where I'm going to work with a

0:27:36.240 --> 0:27:38.879
<v Speaker 3>group of people around biological age. If people are interested

0:27:38.880 --> 0:27:43.000
<v Speaker 3>in that reach out, we could do something together, Harps.

0:27:42.800 --> 0:27:44.960
<v Speaker 1>We could could you know what I'm thinking? Yep, sure,

0:27:45.040 --> 0:27:47.679
<v Speaker 1>let's talk about that. I will make everyone breakfast and

0:27:47.720 --> 0:27:49.480
<v Speaker 1>you can run the program. That's what? What the fuck

0:27:49.520 --> 0:27:50.199
<v Speaker 1>am I going to do?

0:27:50.480 --> 0:27:56.359
<v Speaker 3>What stand live and breathe Like reducing your cellular coological age?

0:27:56.600 --> 0:27:58.320
<v Speaker 3>Here's what about?

0:27:58.640 --> 0:28:01.000
<v Speaker 1>Here's what I want to buy logical age test that

0:28:01.080 --> 0:28:07.680
<v Speaker 1>incorporates votwo MAC subvotwo MAC strength, balance, coordination, cognitive performance,

0:28:07.840 --> 0:28:11.560
<v Speaker 1>bone density. Like want to I want to see if

0:28:11.600 --> 0:28:15.520
<v Speaker 1>you give me ten people and let them walk twenty

0:28:15.560 --> 0:28:18.520
<v Speaker 1>meters in front of me, just across I will tell

0:28:18.520 --> 0:28:21.280
<v Speaker 1>you who's the oldest by function. Do you know what

0:28:21.320 --> 0:28:25.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean with a level of accuracy without access to

0:28:25.119 --> 0:28:27.760
<v Speaker 1>any of that data, because I mean, you look at

0:28:27.760 --> 0:28:32.840
<v Speaker 1>some people. This is what I'm sharing everyone. It's bro science,

0:28:32.880 --> 0:28:36.800
<v Speaker 1>it's opinion. And also everything that Denise is sharing is great,

0:28:36.800 --> 0:28:39.320
<v Speaker 1>but it's not a personal recommendation. Of course, we need

0:28:39.360 --> 0:28:42.520
<v Speaker 1>to say that as our disclaimer. But the information is

0:28:43.280 --> 0:28:45.720
<v Speaker 1>she's at the pointy end of this stuff. So I

0:28:45.760 --> 0:28:50.640
<v Speaker 1>trust her believer and value her opinion, but I want

0:28:50.680 --> 0:28:54.280
<v Speaker 1>to know. In fact, we'll ask Tiff as well. So

0:28:54.800 --> 0:28:58.720
<v Speaker 1>I think the average fifty year old in Australia, this

0:28:58.840 --> 0:29:03.480
<v Speaker 1>is not an insult. I reckon the average chronologically fifty

0:29:03.560 --> 0:29:07.400
<v Speaker 1>year old in Australia. I'm not talking about individuals, but

0:29:07.640 --> 0:29:12.480
<v Speaker 1>across the board probably somewhere closer to fifty five biologically.

0:29:12.040 --> 0:29:14.560
<v Speaker 3>I would agree one hundred percent, and there's actually data.

0:29:14.320 --> 0:29:18.120
<v Speaker 1>For that, right. So that's like I look at people,

0:29:18.200 --> 0:29:22.000
<v Speaker 1>and I mean, I'm not the bright shining light in

0:29:22.040 --> 0:29:25.040
<v Speaker 1>the middle of this. I've been crooked the last month,

0:29:25.120 --> 0:29:27.520
<v Speaker 1>so I'm just coming out of that now. But in

0:29:27.600 --> 0:29:31.680
<v Speaker 1>general terms, you know, when I'm not crook. I'm you know,

0:29:31.760 --> 0:29:34.680
<v Speaker 1>relatively fit, healthy, strong, don't smoke, don't drink, don't do

0:29:34.760 --> 0:29:37.000
<v Speaker 1>all that shit. And none of that is because I'm

0:29:37.000 --> 0:29:40.280
<v Speaker 1>gifted or lucky or special or got great genetics. It's

0:29:40.360 --> 0:29:43.840
<v Speaker 1>just all about my behavior and my choices, right, Tiff,

0:29:43.840 --> 0:29:46.360
<v Speaker 1>What do you think like with the average fifty year old?

0:29:47.200 --> 0:29:49.400
<v Speaker 1>Because you work with bodies all the time you train,

0:29:49.560 --> 0:29:52.200
<v Speaker 1>you probably work with more bodies than Denise and I

0:29:52.400 --> 0:29:54.760
<v Speaker 1>on a practical physical level.

0:29:55.160 --> 0:29:58.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well that gives me a warped view because I

0:29:58.040 --> 0:30:00.520
<v Speaker 2>was having to chat with someone recently and we were

0:30:00.560 --> 0:30:02.960
<v Speaker 2>talking about age, and I'm like, oh, it doesn't surprise

0:30:03.000 --> 0:30:06.160
<v Speaker 2>me when people are younger than I think they're younger

0:30:06.200 --> 0:30:08.720
<v Speaker 2>than they are because a lot of a lot of

0:30:08.760 --> 0:30:11.360
<v Speaker 2>my clients are over sixty, but they're young.

0:30:11.960 --> 0:30:14.880
<v Speaker 3>Like I hang out with you, you're sixty and you're young.

0:30:15.200 --> 0:30:19.520
<v Speaker 2>Like people that are in my world, living my lifestyle

0:30:19.560 --> 0:30:22.520
<v Speaker 2>that I'm hanging out with, even when they're twenty years older,

0:30:22.560 --> 0:30:25.160
<v Speaker 2>They're hanging out like we're like a pack of twenty

0:30:25.240 --> 0:30:26.000
<v Speaker 2>year olds.

0:30:26.920 --> 0:30:29.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so what do you reckon? The gap is about

0:30:29.720 --> 0:30:31.840
<v Speaker 1>five years at that age to give or take.

0:30:32.280 --> 0:30:36.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so we we obviously it's a little bit later

0:30:36.800 --> 0:30:41.000
<v Speaker 3>in life, but we definitely have this once we're sort

0:30:41.000 --> 0:30:44.640
<v Speaker 3>of aging, you know, seventies, we know there is this

0:30:45.360 --> 0:30:48.160
<v Speaker 3>health gap, so people are generally aging at a faster

0:30:48.360 --> 0:30:51.200
<v Speaker 3>rate and that last decade of life. In Australia, most

0:30:51.240 --> 0:30:54.400
<v Speaker 3>Australians have at least one, if not more, chronic illnesses

0:30:54.440 --> 0:30:57.200
<v Speaker 3>and are not aging well. They have a disability, they

0:30:57.200 --> 0:30:59.880
<v Speaker 3>can't function, they need help. So you know, this starts

0:31:00.040 --> 0:31:01.880
<v Speaker 3>in the fifties and sixties. They don't wake up at

0:31:01.920 --> 0:31:05.560
<v Speaker 3>seventy not being able to move their body, having that pain,

0:31:05.800 --> 0:31:08.000
<v Speaker 3>having that whatever it is, whether they're on their cholesterol

0:31:08.040 --> 0:31:10.440
<v Speaker 3>medication or their blood pressure medication or you know, having

0:31:10.480 --> 0:31:14.120
<v Speaker 3>issues with blood glucose, all that starts so much earlier.

0:31:15.200 --> 0:31:18.080
<v Speaker 3>So I do think that a lot of people are biologically,

0:31:18.200 --> 0:31:21.760
<v Speaker 3>at a cellular level older, and it's not their fault.

0:31:22.200 --> 0:31:24.600
<v Speaker 3>You know, if someone is and you're struggling now and

0:31:24.640 --> 0:31:26.920
<v Speaker 3>you're even sort of younger and you're having some of

0:31:26.920 --> 0:31:29.680
<v Speaker 3>these issues, you've got a chronic illness. It's the world

0:31:29.800 --> 0:31:32.400
<v Speaker 3>around us. We are and this is all the stuff

0:31:32.400 --> 0:31:34.560
<v Speaker 3>that we say all the time. You know, we're sitting

0:31:34.600 --> 0:31:36.560
<v Speaker 3>all the time. It's the amount of chemicals and toxins

0:31:36.560 --> 0:31:38.880
<v Speaker 3>in the environment. The food is different. You know, we're

0:31:38.880 --> 0:31:41.280
<v Speaker 3>on the screens. You know, we're not sleeping as well,

0:31:41.280 --> 0:31:43.880
<v Speaker 3>we're not moving our bodies as much. Now, that's not

0:31:43.920 --> 0:31:46.040
<v Speaker 3>the people that you're working with, Tiff, or that you're

0:31:46.080 --> 0:31:48.040
<v Speaker 3>working with, Craig, and the people that come to see

0:31:48.080 --> 0:31:51.520
<v Speaker 3>me are pretty much most of them are already in

0:31:51.560 --> 0:31:54.040
<v Speaker 3>this world as well. But that's not the majority. There

0:31:54.080 --> 0:31:55.520
<v Speaker 3>are a lot of people out there that are under

0:31:55.880 --> 0:31:59.320
<v Speaker 3>day to day stress. They're feeling financial pressure, they're feeling

0:31:59.360 --> 0:32:02.520
<v Speaker 3>family pressure, they just feel like, you know, they can't cope.

0:32:02.560 --> 0:32:05.360
<v Speaker 3>There's some mental health I mean, you know this too, Creig.

0:32:05.360 --> 0:32:07.440
<v Speaker 3>You know all the mental health disorders are increasing, chronic

0:32:07.480 --> 0:32:12.080
<v Speaker 3>illnesses are increasing. Pain. So there's a majority of people

0:32:12.120 --> 0:32:15.520
<v Speaker 3>that are struggling, and some of them, I don't think realize.

0:32:15.720 --> 0:32:18.800
<v Speaker 3>Like you said, with sleep, how easy. Now it doesn't

0:32:18.800 --> 0:32:20.760
<v Speaker 3>mean it's easy, because it's hard to change your habits,

0:32:20.800 --> 0:32:23.320
<v Speaker 3>but how easy it can be to start to undo

0:32:23.440 --> 0:32:26.120
<v Speaker 3>these things. And like you said, going back to what

0:32:26.160 --> 0:32:29.360
<v Speaker 3>you said before, Craig, getting the foundations right and not

0:32:29.440 --> 0:32:32.520
<v Speaker 3>just jumping to supplements or HRT. You know, we've discussed

0:32:32.600 --> 0:32:35.280
<v Speaker 3>this in the podcast before. But I had a beautiful

0:32:35.280 --> 0:32:38.600
<v Speaker 3>patient that I saw yesterday and who was you know,

0:32:38.600 --> 0:32:41.040
<v Speaker 3>we were talking about HRT whether she was going to

0:32:41.080 --> 0:32:43.800
<v Speaker 3>go down that route and you know, we've decided not

0:32:43.920 --> 0:32:45.600
<v Speaker 3>to for a while. We can do some more testing.

0:32:46.200 --> 0:32:48.640
<v Speaker 3>But she even said she worked it out herself. You know,

0:32:48.680 --> 0:32:50.719
<v Speaker 3>at the end of the consult, she's like, so, really,

0:32:50.760 --> 0:32:53.680
<v Speaker 3>I probably should just change some of these things first,

0:32:53.800 --> 0:32:56.880
<v Speaker 3>because I was talking to her about how much I

0:32:57.000 --> 0:33:00.160
<v Speaker 3>know that I can control my symptoms when I'm taking

0:33:00.200 --> 0:33:03.240
<v Speaker 3>care of myself. You know, that panic attack hasn't happened

0:33:03.280 --> 0:33:06.120
<v Speaker 3>since because I'm making a lot of effort to ensure

0:33:06.600 --> 0:33:09.000
<v Speaker 3>that that I'm taking care of myself. But when I'm

0:33:09.080 --> 0:33:11.240
<v Speaker 3>under the high stress, when i haven't slept or I

0:33:11.280 --> 0:33:13.720
<v Speaker 3>do go and drink alcohol, and then I'm hot and

0:33:13.800 --> 0:33:16.040
<v Speaker 3>flustered and whatever, that's when the hot flashes, and that's

0:33:16.080 --> 0:33:18.480
<v Speaker 3>when it all becomes a bit more difficult and I'm

0:33:18.480 --> 0:33:20.880
<v Speaker 3>not feeling great. But she was having a lot of

0:33:20.920 --> 0:33:23.600
<v Speaker 3>issues sleeping five to seven hours. I have a questionnaire.

0:33:24.160 --> 0:33:25.880
<v Speaker 3>We've got to get this sorted. You know, she's having

0:33:25.880 --> 0:33:29.160
<v Speaker 3>coffees in the afternoon and she's a fast caffeine metabolizer.

0:33:29.200 --> 0:33:30.800
<v Speaker 3>But still you don't want to be having coffee, you know,

0:33:30.920 --> 0:33:33.880
<v Speaker 3>particularly you know, after two and she's on her screen

0:33:33.920 --> 0:33:36.320
<v Speaker 3>at night like so many people, and I said, how

0:33:36.360 --> 0:33:40.080
<v Speaker 3>about before we think about progesterone and HRT for sleep.

0:33:40.800 --> 0:33:43.480
<v Speaker 3>She came to that conclusion around I don't. I don't.

0:33:43.520 --> 0:33:46.160
<v Speaker 3>I'm not that kind of practitioners. We work together, but

0:33:46.240 --> 0:33:47.800
<v Speaker 3>we're like, let's just do that for a few months.

0:33:47.880 --> 0:33:50.560
<v Speaker 3>Let's just let's just move coffee. Maybe we could even

0:33:50.600 --> 0:33:52.680
<v Speaker 3>try no coffee at all, or just you know, one

0:33:52.680 --> 0:33:55.240
<v Speaker 3>coffee earlier in the day. Let's get off the screen

0:33:55.280 --> 0:33:57.720
<v Speaker 3>at night and see if your sleep gets a little better.

0:33:57.720 --> 0:34:00.920
<v Speaker 3>She's already exercising, eating relatively well, and then we can

0:34:00.960 --> 0:34:04.560
<v Speaker 3>start to think about whether it's the hormones affecting your sleep.

0:34:05.000 --> 0:34:07.440
<v Speaker 3>So you want to get all of these things right

0:34:07.680 --> 0:34:10.840
<v Speaker 3>because they're the foundations ether thing's going to make you

0:34:10.840 --> 0:34:13.480
<v Speaker 3>feel really good. There is no quick fix. There is

0:34:13.480 --> 0:34:15.840
<v Speaker 3>no quick fix, whether it's a medication, a supplement, or

0:34:15.880 --> 0:34:18.239
<v Speaker 3>a hormone. You have some people say I feel fantastic,

0:34:18.560 --> 0:34:20.960
<v Speaker 3>but the reality is most of them have done the groundwork.

0:34:21.360 --> 0:34:24.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think, yeah, love. All of that has cut

0:34:24.760 --> 0:34:26.959
<v Speaker 1>only one thing that I object to. I don't really

0:34:27.000 --> 0:34:31.359
<v Speaker 1>object to it because you actually early in there you went,

0:34:31.440 --> 0:34:35.080
<v Speaker 1>it's not our fault, I reckon, it is our fault sometimes.

0:34:35.160 --> 0:34:39.440
<v Speaker 1>Now that's not about blame or self loathing. It's about awareness.

0:34:39.560 --> 0:34:42.560
<v Speaker 1>Because you said, oh, she drinks coffee in the afternoon,

0:34:42.640 --> 0:34:45.080
<v Speaker 1>she's on score. Well, these are all choices, like nobody's

0:34:45.280 --> 0:34:47.800
<v Speaker 1>putting a gun to your head saying, you know, be

0:34:47.920 --> 0:34:50.759
<v Speaker 1>on your computer at ten o'clock at night or drink

0:34:50.800 --> 0:34:53.359
<v Speaker 1>coffee at four pm. And so while we don't want

0:34:53.360 --> 0:34:56.399
<v Speaker 1>to beat ourselves up, of course, and you're exactly right,

0:34:56.400 --> 0:34:59.040
<v Speaker 1>there are a lot of variables like what's in the water,

0:34:59.160 --> 0:35:02.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, what foods processed in and packaged in, and

0:35:02.320 --> 0:35:05.360
<v Speaker 1>thalates and all the effect of you know, and the

0:35:05.400 --> 0:35:08.279
<v Speaker 1>crime disruptors and all that shit, right, which, but then

0:35:08.280 --> 0:35:11.680
<v Speaker 1>there's this stuff like I can sit down with anyone

0:35:11.719 --> 0:35:15.680
<v Speaker 1>and say to them, be brave and honest in the moment,

0:35:15.800 --> 0:35:18.160
<v Speaker 1>what are five things you're currently doing that are dumb?

0:35:18.960 --> 0:35:22.720
<v Speaker 1>And if they'll go, oh, well, you know, I probably

0:35:22.719 --> 0:35:24.959
<v Speaker 1>thirty percent more food than I need to. Okay, cool,

0:35:25.200 --> 0:35:28.160
<v Speaker 1>So that's great, thanks for being brave. There's no hate

0:35:28.160 --> 0:35:31.480
<v Speaker 1>in that there's no judgment or ridicule. There's just honesty

0:35:31.520 --> 0:35:34.799
<v Speaker 1>and self awareness, because we can't change what we're not

0:35:34.880 --> 0:35:37.839
<v Speaker 1>aware of, or we can't change what we won't acknowledge,

0:35:38.520 --> 0:35:41.280
<v Speaker 1>you know. So I think it's almost doing an audit

0:35:41.440 --> 0:35:46.080
<v Speaker 1>on our own behaviors and outcomes and realizing, you know,

0:35:46.160 --> 0:35:49.919
<v Speaker 1>like you said before we went live, I'm probably doing

0:35:49.960 --> 0:35:52.560
<v Speaker 1>too much. And next year I'll change that a bit.

0:35:52.600 --> 0:35:54.640
<v Speaker 1>You may, you may not. I do the same, tip

0:35:54.760 --> 0:35:58.400
<v Speaker 1>does the same. I still do dumb shit. I've changed

0:35:58.400 --> 0:36:01.359
<v Speaker 1>a lot of shit to do that is now more

0:36:01.400 --> 0:36:04.239
<v Speaker 1>intelligent and less stupid. But I think there's got to

0:36:04.280 --> 0:36:06.160
<v Speaker 1>be a part in this because we like, what are

0:36:06.200 --> 0:36:10.719
<v Speaker 1>we talking about. We're talking about change. We're talking about physical, mental, emotional,

0:36:10.960 --> 0:36:14.360
<v Speaker 1>behavioral change. We're talking about the results that we're producing

0:36:14.400 --> 0:36:17.080
<v Speaker 1>with our body and the results that we're producing in

0:36:17.120 --> 0:36:21.040
<v Speaker 1>the world. And then in order to do better, we

0:36:21.160 --> 0:36:24.520
<v Speaker 1>need to think better and choose better and behave better.

0:36:25.360 --> 0:36:28.040
<v Speaker 1>And I think sometimes before we go down the rabbit

0:36:28.080 --> 0:36:31.000
<v Speaker 1>hole of which drug or which supplement or which you know,

0:36:31.320 --> 0:36:34.960
<v Speaker 1>which CrossFit workout should we do? All of those things matter,

0:36:35.600 --> 0:36:38.439
<v Speaker 1>But I think sometimes we've got to go like way

0:36:38.560 --> 0:36:42.160
<v Speaker 1>way back even below the base level we're talking about

0:36:42.160 --> 0:36:44.400
<v Speaker 1>it. It's like, what's the thing that I do that's stupid.

0:36:44.560 --> 0:36:47.799
<v Speaker 1>Oh well, I eat on autopilot. I don't think or

0:36:48.680 --> 0:36:52.399
<v Speaker 1>you know, I have five to seven drinks a day.

0:36:52.440 --> 0:36:55.719
<v Speaker 1>And again this is just honesty and awareness. It's like, yeah,

0:36:55.800 --> 0:36:59.040
<v Speaker 1>let's just you know, you can't go get a new body,

0:36:59.080 --> 0:37:02.400
<v Speaker 1>bro like that body that's the one. You can't fuck it.

0:37:02.400 --> 0:37:04.640
<v Speaker 1>You can fuck up a lot of things and replace it,

0:37:05.200 --> 0:37:07.799
<v Speaker 1>you know, but you can't replace your body. And once

0:37:07.840 --> 0:37:11.520
<v Speaker 1>it's fucked, I mean fact, it's fucked. So you know,

0:37:11.680 --> 0:37:16.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm always very much about we can't change you know, time,

0:37:16.200 --> 0:37:18.759
<v Speaker 1>We can't change chronological aging at all, we have no

0:37:18.880 --> 0:37:21.040
<v Speaker 1>influence on it. But we can change the way that

0:37:21.080 --> 0:37:24.959
<v Speaker 1>we age. We can change our physiology and biology over

0:37:25.000 --> 0:37:29.880
<v Speaker 1>the you know, that's the variable amidst the consistency of

0:37:30.400 --> 0:37:33.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, day to day time. And so it's trying

0:37:33.400 --> 0:37:37.200
<v Speaker 1>to I think, you know, with what Tiff does, with

0:37:37.239 --> 0:37:39.920
<v Speaker 1>what you do, with what I do. It's like I

0:37:39.960 --> 0:37:43.040
<v Speaker 1>say to audiences all the time, you know, at the

0:37:43.160 --> 0:37:44.760
<v Speaker 1>end of it, I go, well, look, I just shared

0:37:44.800 --> 0:37:48.759
<v Speaker 1>with you ninety minutes of theory, ideas, strategies, science. You know,

0:37:48.880 --> 0:37:52.759
<v Speaker 1>bit of data, you know, a bit of silliness, some stories.

0:37:54.480 --> 0:37:56.480
<v Speaker 1>Who's more motivated than you were an hour ago or

0:37:56.480 --> 0:37:58.120
<v Speaker 1>an hour and a half. Every hand goes up and

0:37:58.160 --> 0:38:01.759
<v Speaker 1>I go, great, it's going to pass. What happens then, like,

0:38:02.200 --> 0:38:06.960
<v Speaker 1>what can you do when the theory, the ideas, the podcast,

0:38:07.080 --> 0:38:12.440
<v Speaker 1>the lecture, the inspiration has passed? Because ultimately what matters

0:38:12.520 --> 0:38:16.080
<v Speaker 1>is not what we know. What we know really matters,

0:38:16.120 --> 0:38:18.520
<v Speaker 1>but what matters most is what we do with that

0:38:18.680 --> 0:38:23.480
<v Speaker 1>knowledge and how we practically and consistently apply that knowledge

0:38:23.520 --> 0:38:27.239
<v Speaker 1>to create whatever is close to our optimal result. And

0:38:28.160 --> 0:38:31.800
<v Speaker 1>so how many people know they should exercise? Fucking everyone?

0:38:31.920 --> 0:38:36.440
<v Speaker 1>How many do? Hardly anyone? Right, It's not a knowledge issue,

0:38:36.480 --> 0:38:39.000
<v Speaker 1>a lot of it. How many people know that eating

0:38:39.120 --> 0:38:41.760
<v Speaker 1>junk food is bad? I'd say nearly everyone in Australia,

0:38:42.560 --> 0:38:46.439
<v Speaker 1>you know. But nonetheless, people who are already unhealthy, who

0:38:46.520 --> 0:38:48.960
<v Speaker 1>already don't like the way they look or feel, will

0:38:48.960 --> 0:38:52.000
<v Speaker 1>buy McDonald's tonight. I'm not judging that. I'm not saying

0:38:52.000 --> 0:38:56.840
<v Speaker 1>they're bad people. I'm saying these are two facts that exist. One,

0:38:57.080 --> 0:38:59.919
<v Speaker 1>they're in an unhealthy body. They want to be healthy too.

0:39:00.360 --> 0:39:03.640
<v Speaker 1>On the same day, day by junk, you know, and

0:39:03.719 --> 0:39:06.719
<v Speaker 1>so this is the at some stage there has to

0:39:06.760 --> 0:39:10.960
<v Speaker 1>be an internal, psychological and emotional revolution. So people like

0:39:11.080 --> 0:39:15.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm not that person anymore because they can you know,

0:39:15.640 --> 0:39:17.440
<v Speaker 1>you can give them a day of your time. You

0:39:17.480 --> 0:39:21.080
<v Speaker 1>can give them twenty grand worth of you. I'm sure

0:39:21.120 --> 0:39:24.920
<v Speaker 1>that's under selling you, but I wish. But at the

0:39:25.000 --> 0:39:27.799
<v Speaker 1>end of the day, what matters is what they do

0:39:27.920 --> 0:39:30.280
<v Speaker 1>with what they know, and what they can keep doing

0:39:30.360 --> 0:39:30.960
<v Speaker 1>over time.

0:39:31.120 --> 0:39:34.640
<v Speaker 3>Right, I think you are right in the sense when

0:39:34.680 --> 0:39:36.960
<v Speaker 3>I say it's not their fault. Yes, they're making decisions,

0:39:36.960 --> 0:39:40.200
<v Speaker 3>but I think some people genuinely there are people in

0:39:40.239 --> 0:39:42.880
<v Speaker 3>our world that really know the things they should be doing.

0:39:42.880 --> 0:39:45.239
<v Speaker 3>But there are some people that actually just go, I

0:39:45.320 --> 0:39:48.480
<v Speaker 3>really had no idea that looking at my phone really

0:39:48.480 --> 0:39:50.879
<v Speaker 3>had such a massive impact on my sleepers. And they'll

0:39:50.880 --> 0:39:52.640
<v Speaker 3>come back and go, wow, I haven't got my phone

0:39:52.680 --> 0:39:55.239
<v Speaker 3>in my room and I really am sleeping better. It's

0:39:55.280 --> 0:39:59.040
<v Speaker 3>like they're shocked, but they actually didn't. They really didn't

0:39:59.080 --> 0:40:02.320
<v Speaker 3>think it was having such a big impact. Or as

0:40:02.320 --> 0:40:04.480
<v Speaker 3>if you start taking out some of these you know,

0:40:04.480 --> 0:40:06.880
<v Speaker 3>whether it's natural skin care products or just changing the

0:40:06.960 --> 0:40:08.880
<v Speaker 3>food just a little bit, you know, small changes and

0:40:08.880 --> 0:40:11.799
<v Speaker 3>they're like, Wow, I'm actually not getting bloating anymore. I'm

0:40:11.800 --> 0:40:14.560
<v Speaker 3>not getting that brain fog just by changing a few foods.

0:40:14.800 --> 0:40:18.240
<v Speaker 3>And I think some people are genuinely shocked because even

0:40:18.320 --> 0:40:22.879
<v Speaker 3>though they kind of know, they don't really believe that

0:40:22.960 --> 0:40:25.719
<v Speaker 3>these changes are going to have such a big impact.

0:40:26.360 --> 0:40:28.839
<v Speaker 3>But for those that do, it's great because sometimes that

0:40:28.920 --> 0:40:32.000
<v Speaker 3>keeps the momentum going. But the reality is, as you

0:40:32.040 --> 0:40:34.680
<v Speaker 3>would know, even once the momentum is going, often people

0:40:34.719 --> 0:40:37.960
<v Speaker 3>fall back into habits, and I think it comes down

0:40:38.000 --> 0:40:42.960
<v Speaker 3>to stress fatigue, you know, dopamine people just looking for

0:40:43.000 --> 0:40:46.040
<v Speaker 3>that dopamine hit. Are you doing stuff with dopamine and

0:40:46.080 --> 0:40:48.040
<v Speaker 3>neurotransmitters in your PhD?

0:40:48.600 --> 0:40:51.759
<v Speaker 1>Not particularly, No, but we talk a fair bit about

0:40:51.800 --> 0:40:54.440
<v Speaker 1>pressing the dopamine button on this show, you know, for

0:40:54.480 --> 0:40:57.920
<v Speaker 1>lots of different reasons, and that, you know, one of

0:40:57.960 --> 0:41:00.719
<v Speaker 1>the biggest challenges I talk about with people is being

0:41:00.719 --> 0:41:03.799
<v Speaker 1>able to delay gratification. You know, is where you know

0:41:03.880 --> 0:41:06.800
<v Speaker 1>you could just push that button and in five seconds

0:41:06.840 --> 0:41:08.839
<v Speaker 1>or five minutes, you're going to feel fucking great. If

0:41:08.840 --> 0:41:11.760
<v Speaker 1>you don't push that button, you're not going to feel great,

0:41:11.880 --> 0:41:14.239
<v Speaker 1>and you're also not going to get any reward. Back

0:41:14.320 --> 0:41:18.600
<v Speaker 1>anytime soon, because sometimes you've got to go through months

0:41:18.640 --> 0:41:21.000
<v Speaker 1>of not pushing the button to start to see and

0:41:21.120 --> 0:41:24.680
<v Speaker 1>experience the real reward, you know, to get to that

0:41:24.880 --> 0:41:30.000
<v Speaker 1>long term you know whatever emotional, psychological, physiological state. But

0:41:30.200 --> 0:41:32.239
<v Speaker 1>I agree with you, Like I said, I agree with you.

0:41:32.360 --> 0:41:35.040
<v Speaker 1>I think what you say and what I'm saying those

0:41:35.080 --> 0:41:38.759
<v Speaker 1>things are both true and they both coexist, you know,

0:41:39.040 --> 0:41:41.160
<v Speaker 1>they can exist side by side where we go. Oh,

0:41:41.200 --> 0:41:44.160
<v Speaker 1>of course there's lots of shit people don't know, but

0:41:44.200 --> 0:41:47.160
<v Speaker 1>there's also shit people do know, and people do know

0:41:47.239 --> 0:41:49.680
<v Speaker 1>shit that they do know this is bad and then

0:41:50.040 --> 0:41:52.319
<v Speaker 1>nonetheless do it. And then there's people who don't know

0:41:52.400 --> 0:41:57.040
<v Speaker 1>that how toxic or potentially damaging that thing is, and

0:41:57.160 --> 0:41:59.920
<v Speaker 1>they you know, they can't operationalize what they don't know.

0:42:00.320 --> 0:42:04.359
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, absolutely, And that's why I mean literally, this

0:42:04.400 --> 0:42:06.799
<v Speaker 1>is why we have this discussion, just to open the

0:42:06.840 --> 0:42:12.560
<v Speaker 1>door for people or just to get people thinking or yeah, yeah,

0:42:13.200 --> 0:42:13.720
<v Speaker 1>I had.

0:42:13.560 --> 0:42:18.440
<v Speaker 3>My first corporate gig. I guess you would call it.

0:42:18.480 --> 0:42:20.279
<v Speaker 3>I don't do sort of what you do. I'm most

0:42:20.640 --> 0:42:25.479
<v Speaker 3>generally medical conferences and speaking to practitioners most of the time,

0:42:25.600 --> 0:42:27.520
<v Speaker 3>like you know, whether they're doctors or you know, health

0:42:27.560 --> 0:42:31.480
<v Speaker 3>people in that health space, and I one of my clients.

0:42:31.680 --> 0:42:33.880
<v Speaker 3>I had no idea. She has this beautiful business with

0:42:34.000 --> 0:42:36.799
<v Speaker 3>seven hundred staff, like it's her business she's created, had

0:42:36.840 --> 0:42:39.280
<v Speaker 3>no idea. She just sold it to someone in Japan.

0:42:39.360 --> 0:42:41.600
<v Speaker 3>But she said, can you come along and talk? I'm

0:42:41.640 --> 0:42:43.840
<v Speaker 3>having this sort of women in business HR things. She

0:42:43.840 --> 0:42:46.279
<v Speaker 3>had all these really high performing women and it was

0:42:46.360 --> 0:42:50.399
<v Speaker 3>so much fun. There was no slides, there was no

0:42:50.480 --> 0:42:52.040
<v Speaker 3>prepared talk.

0:42:52.040 --> 0:42:54.880
<v Speaker 1>What are you yeah?

0:42:54.920 --> 0:42:58.280
<v Speaker 3>And she had some questions. We didn't even go through

0:42:58.360 --> 0:43:01.080
<v Speaker 3>her questions because it ended up just being that, you know,

0:43:01.120 --> 0:43:02.960
<v Speaker 3>the thirty women that were at the event just ask

0:43:03.120 --> 0:43:07.120
<v Speaker 3>questions randomly. But it was such a great experience to

0:43:07.239 --> 0:43:09.839
<v Speaker 3>just sit there and be able to talk to these

0:43:09.920 --> 0:43:13.600
<v Speaker 3>people about health. You know, high performing, high functioning people

0:43:13.600 --> 0:43:16.280
<v Speaker 3>that are dealing with day to day high level stress

0:43:16.320 --> 0:43:17.680
<v Speaker 3>and trying to be a mum and trying to do

0:43:17.719 --> 0:43:20.239
<v Speaker 3>this and trying to be healthy, but the crap that

0:43:20.280 --> 0:43:23.040
<v Speaker 3>they see online and almost I felt like I was

0:43:23.080 --> 0:43:25.360
<v Speaker 3>just doing mythbusting to be honest, like it was just

0:43:25.560 --> 0:43:28.800
<v Speaker 3>what about this? I was like hmm and no, no, no, no, no,

0:43:29.200 --> 0:43:30.880
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if I don't think you need that

0:43:31.040 --> 0:43:33.440
<v Speaker 3>and let's come back to basics. But there was a

0:43:33.440 --> 0:43:36.400
<v Speaker 3>really interesting question at the end of it. And actually

0:43:36.440 --> 0:43:37.919
<v Speaker 3>I think she was quite happy with me. She goes,

0:43:38.000 --> 0:43:39.560
<v Speaker 3>I thought I was going to hate you. She was

0:43:39.600 --> 0:43:41.120
<v Speaker 3>really honest, she goes, I thought you were going to

0:43:41.160 --> 0:43:43.239
<v Speaker 3>come in and say you got to sleep this many

0:43:43.239 --> 0:43:45.920
<v Speaker 3>out nine hours every night, and you can't drink alcohol,

0:43:46.000 --> 0:43:48.360
<v Speaker 3>and you've got to do this, and because of course

0:43:48.360 --> 0:43:51.520
<v Speaker 3>we know these things help, but I'm realistic about socializing

0:43:51.560 --> 0:43:54.160
<v Speaker 3>and connecting and think, you know, eighty twenty et cetera.

0:43:54.719 --> 0:43:56.480
<v Speaker 3>But in the end, she just said, can you just

0:43:56.560 --> 0:43:59.000
<v Speaker 3>tell me one thing? She said, I loved everything you said,

0:43:59.040 --> 0:44:00.839
<v Speaker 3>but if there was just one one thing I had

0:44:00.880 --> 0:44:02.839
<v Speaker 3>to do, Like if I just took she said, You've

0:44:02.880 --> 0:44:06.160
<v Speaker 3>talked about you know, so many things, and I don't

0:44:06.200 --> 0:44:09.760
<v Speaker 3>have one thing. But what just was flashing in my mind.

0:44:09.800 --> 0:44:11.680
<v Speaker 3>It almost felt like it was too simple to say,

0:44:11.719 --> 0:44:13.319
<v Speaker 3>but it just kept flashing, and I was like, Okay,

0:44:13.360 --> 0:44:16.120
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to tell you what's in my mind. I said,

0:44:16.120 --> 0:44:18.480
<v Speaker 3>go for a walk every day, I said, just go

0:44:18.560 --> 0:44:21.480
<v Speaker 3>for a walk, I said, and just pay attention to

0:44:21.520 --> 0:44:24.560
<v Speaker 3>your thoughts, pay attention to how your body feels, and

0:44:24.600 --> 0:44:26.560
<v Speaker 3>a bit like what you were talking about before, Harps.

0:44:26.560 --> 0:44:29.960
<v Speaker 3>You don't like meditating. I don't either, but often I

0:44:29.960 --> 0:44:34.160
<v Speaker 3>think meditating something that I've recently learned, and whether it's

0:44:34.160 --> 0:44:35.680
<v Speaker 3>true or not, but this is what I've been told

0:44:35.719 --> 0:44:37.399
<v Speaker 3>and I love it because I don't think I'm good

0:44:37.400 --> 0:44:40.560
<v Speaker 3>at meditating. Is that meditating is just being okay with

0:44:40.640 --> 0:44:43.120
<v Speaker 3>your thoughts. It's actually just being okay, we're sitting with

0:44:43.200 --> 0:44:45.680
<v Speaker 3>who you are. It's not about going like blank, which

0:44:45.719 --> 0:44:47.560
<v Speaker 3>of course I don't do, ding ding ding ding ding.

0:44:48.080 --> 0:44:51.560
<v Speaker 3>It's just being okay with what's popping up and paying

0:44:51.560 --> 0:44:53.600
<v Speaker 3>attention to all the things that are going on in

0:44:53.640 --> 0:44:55.480
<v Speaker 3>your mind and do you need to deal with that

0:44:55.719 --> 0:44:57.920
<v Speaker 3>or do you just push that aside? It's not important.

0:44:59.000 --> 0:45:02.240
<v Speaker 3>And I think with walking with me, it is almost

0:45:02.239 --> 0:45:04.359
<v Speaker 3>a little bit of form of meditation, and that sort

0:45:04.360 --> 0:45:07.480
<v Speaker 3>of grounds you and then just from that little moment,

0:45:07.520 --> 0:45:09.520
<v Speaker 3>then you're more likely to maybe make a better food

0:45:09.600 --> 0:45:11.920
<v Speaker 3>choice or drink water instead of something else, and it

0:45:12.000 --> 0:45:14.920
<v Speaker 3>leads into something else. And there is no right or

0:45:14.960 --> 0:45:18.319
<v Speaker 3>wrong one thing. But I think they were all a

0:45:18.320 --> 0:45:21.360
<v Speaker 3>little bit shocked. They were happy, but how simple. You know,

0:45:21.400 --> 0:45:24.080
<v Speaker 3>we'd got into genetics and all the cool testing I do,

0:45:24.160 --> 0:45:26.680
<v Speaker 3>and then they're like, what's the one thing like And

0:45:26.719 --> 0:45:31.760
<v Speaker 3>it's just for a walk every day and pay attention

0:45:31.840 --> 0:45:36.560
<v Speaker 3>to your thoughts, you know. And it is just coming

0:45:36.600 --> 0:45:42.280
<v Speaker 3>back to those basics and also working out what works

0:45:42.360 --> 0:45:44.239
<v Speaker 3>for you. Because even though I said it's a walk,

0:45:44.320 --> 0:45:46.600
<v Speaker 3>you know, for you Harps, it's a ride on the motorbike.

0:45:47.080 --> 0:45:50.200
<v Speaker 3>Don't try to force yourself to do something because someone

0:45:50.239 --> 0:45:53.399
<v Speaker 3>else said it's the right thing to do. Because I'll

0:45:53.440 --> 0:45:56.240
<v Speaker 3>give you a recent example, as in literally last week,

0:45:56.640 --> 0:45:59.279
<v Speaker 3>I'd gone from one event to the other. There were

0:45:59.280 --> 0:46:01.560
<v Speaker 3>some issues in Sea, so I didn't arrive in Melbourne

0:46:01.600 --> 0:46:03.799
<v Speaker 3>till after midnight. I was speaking the next day. I

0:46:03.920 --> 0:46:05.920
<v Speaker 3>just and I had come from sort of three events

0:46:05.920 --> 0:46:07.839
<v Speaker 3>in a row, and I just felt really on edge.

0:46:07.840 --> 0:46:11.440
<v Speaker 3>I had a great presentation, I saw all these wonderful colleagues.

0:46:12.160 --> 0:46:15.160
<v Speaker 3>Nothing about the event was out of you know, I

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<v Speaker 3>loved it. But I just came back to the hotel

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<v Speaker 3>room and I just felt so on edge and I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, I need to calm the fuck down. I've

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<v Speaker 3>just gone from playing to events I've been on. I've

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<v Speaker 3>been on. I was like, I'm gonna have a bath

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<v Speaker 3>and listen to meditation. I could not sit still in

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<v Speaker 3>the bath. I was like, I was getting up here

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm sitting there and I'm like lay down and relaxed, Denise,

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<v Speaker 3>like switch off, and what I should have done. I

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<v Speaker 3>needed to move my body. I needed to do something

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<v Speaker 3>because I don't love just sitting there and doing meditation.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's so funny even me, I went, I need

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<v Speaker 3>to calm down. You've just been on I want to

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<v Speaker 3>sleep well tonight. I'm going to have a bath. There

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<v Speaker 3>was this spa bath in the room, but I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>enjoy it, and afterwards I was like, I should have

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<v Speaker 3>just done a few yoga poses. I should have gone

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<v Speaker 3>for a walk, Like I needed to move my body

0:46:59.239 --> 0:47:01.080
<v Speaker 3>and get all that in it. You through me. So

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<v Speaker 3>it's knowing what works for you and not just what

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<v Speaker 3>you've read online or what someone else is saying.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like the idea of it. It's better than the

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<v Speaker 1>reality of it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I was in the bath, going, why aren't I relaxed?

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<v Speaker 3>Why can't I just lay yet?

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<v Speaker 1>It's like relax right now, you fucking relax.

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<v Speaker 3>Now You've got meditation on your inner bathroom in a

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<v Speaker 3>hotel room by yourself. Everything's right now, Come on, Denise,

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<v Speaker 3>come on now.

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<v Speaker 1>We know you're busy. We appreciate you. You're amazing. You've

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<v Speaker 1>got a million things on. So we'll let you go,

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<v Speaker 1>but tell people how to connect with you and read

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<v Speaker 1>you and hear you, and.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, so you can if you want to connect.

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<v Speaker 3>It's probably easier to go to the website's bit of

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<v Speaker 3>an outdated website, but there's a page there and you

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<v Speaker 3>can reach out. If you've got any questions, that'll go

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<v Speaker 3>to my assistance. She'll let me know if you I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not taking on any patients at the moment. We're just

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<v Speaker 3>crazy till the end of the year. But next year

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<v Speaker 3>we are looking at doing these retreats and the first.

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<v Speaker 1>HAPs will be to be there apparently.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, yeah, I've got a couple that have sold

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<v Speaker 3>out already, so we could talk about some biological age

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<v Speaker 3>ones with harps. So if you're interested in that kind

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<v Speaker 3>of stuff, let me know. And yeah, if you've got

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<v Speaker 3>any questions otherwise, I will talk to you here next

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<v Speaker 3>time that I pop up on the You Project.

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<v Speaker 1>Perfect love you, guts, thank you so much. I hope

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<v Speaker 1>you enjoy the netball. Denise is off to I'll referee.

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<v Speaker 3>Do we call it umpie umpire netball?

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<v Speaker 1>I should know that I used to work in the

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<v Speaker 1>netty well with the girls. All Right, we'll chat off air,

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<v Speaker 1>but for the mini. Thanks thanks TIV, Thanks TIV.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks as you get an F for mic technique, You're welcome.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks everyone? Why why what did I do?

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<v Speaker 3>Get off it?

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<v Speaker 1>I told you to tell me what I don't understand.

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<v Speaker 2>Leaning on it.

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<v Speaker 3>He's leaning on it, Denise.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm literally two inches away from it.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the actually sounds okay to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Denise.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so gainy, So thank you, Denise. I feel I'm

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<v Speaker 2>fighting with both of you.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like Craig sounds clear and you sound really

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<v Speaker 3>quiet to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, praise the Lord. Thank you. Come on. Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>what's coming through for me. Everyone. Yeah, Tip one's feedback

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<v Speaker 1>till you give her feedback. See what happens. See everyone.

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<v Speaker 3>Hi,