WEBVTT - REWIND: Kim Hollingsworth

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<v Speaker 1>Appoge production. Yeah, I knocked on the door. He was

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<v Speaker 1>heaps older than than I was. And that was November

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<v Speaker 1>twenty seventh, nineteen eighty seven. I did that. Yeah, that

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<v Speaker 1>was the date that I started longer the booking for

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<v Speaker 1>two hours, so there were two hour bookings, then two

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<v Speaker 1>fifty for two hours, I know first time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what you saw, well that.

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<v Speaker 1>We were told you were you were to talk for

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<v Speaker 1>an hour, talk for an hour, talk for an hour.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course they didn't, but you were told to talk

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<v Speaker 1>for an hour, be a lady, and then you know,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe just seduce him or entice him onto the bed.

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<v Speaker 1>So I said, they go hi, you know, and and

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<v Speaker 1>I think I used my real name then. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know that you had to have a fake hooker name,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. Yeah, so hi, and I said hi. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I was just gigging and oh, you know, nice room

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<v Speaker 1>things like that. I just did not know what what

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<v Speaker 1>the hell to do, and he certainly knew. So the

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<v Speaker 1>talking did not go on very long, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>over very very quickly, and I just remember going, oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god. And then he said, oh, you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>can go now. And it was less than two hours,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't it? And you know, I had the money. You

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<v Speaker 1>always got the money up front. That was drilled into

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<v Speaker 1>us get the money up front. So I got the money, and.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, how did you feel walking out of that room? Then?

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<v Speaker 3>Did you feel like that it was the same thing

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<v Speaker 3>going for your head when you walked in you're going

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<v Speaker 3>to walk out to the Did you feel like that

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<v Speaker 3>or did you just what?

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<v Speaker 2>Was it a different feeling?

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<v Speaker 1>No? I did. I felt I felt like a prostitute.

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<v Speaker 1>I felt like I am now a prostitute.

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<v Speaker 2>I have now off by eager to get another job.

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<v Speaker 1>I had two hundred and fifty dollars cash in my hand.

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<v Speaker 1>I was on one hundred and sixty dollars away and

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<v Speaker 1>I just earned that in like ten minutes. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course we got I think one fifty and the

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<v Speaker 1>agency got one hundred. So I had earned literally almost

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<v Speaker 1>double my pay packer in ten minutes. And that's where

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<v Speaker 1>the addiction started, at that moment, staring at that cash.

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<v Speaker 1>And we drove across. My friend drove and she picked

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<v Speaker 1>me up. Oh how was it? And oh god, I

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<v Speaker 1>did it, you know, and we're both looking at the money.

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<v Speaker 1>And then we drove across the Harbor Bridge and we say,

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<v Speaker 1>you know that we're in the money. We were singing

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<v Speaker 1>that song, yeah, and we just thought we were rich. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>we made two thousand dollars each that week and that

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<v Speaker 1>was unheard of. There's a lot of money, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we were I think we were very popular because we

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<v Speaker 1>were young and fresh and guys wanted that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>so they would say, oh, who's you knew girl? Has

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<v Speaker 1>she worked before? Has she got tattoos? You weren't allowed

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<v Speaker 1>to have tattoos. Yeah, a lot of the girls covered

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<v Speaker 1>their tattoos in those days.

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<v Speaker 3>It was awkward being like like I always I've had

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<v Speaker 3>one prostitute on before, and she said it was sometimes awkward.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, the guy's touching year and you know they

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<v Speaker 3>want to get kind of intimate, they want to kind

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<v Speaker 3>of kiss.

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<v Speaker 2>Here was it was? It hard.

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<v Speaker 1>It was hard because especially for the first time. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>prostitutes never kissed, you know that that's saying. And so

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<v Speaker 1>we would kind of just giggle and say.

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<v Speaker 2>When he said to kind of a blow job, did

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<v Speaker 2>you know what it was? Then?

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<v Speaker 1>No, I didn't. I just blew I did. I actually

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<v Speaker 1>really yes, I thought that, and I'm like going, okay, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like I ended up blowing like a cyclone.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I think he's going to get off on that,

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<v Speaker 1>but he didn't, you know, and he's like, what's have

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<v Speaker 1>you done this before? I'm like, oh, yeah, I'm real experienced,

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<v Speaker 1>and he could tell I wasn't, and he just sent

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<v Speaker 1>me away.

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<v Speaker 2>With the money.

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<v Speaker 1>With the money, Yeah, a lot of guys felt sorry

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<v Speaker 1>for me. A lot of guys did feel sorry for

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<v Speaker 1>me and sent me away with the money. So of course,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, wow, that was good, but a lot didn't,

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot were violent and a lot stressed.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you got you got into situations where they where

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<v Speaker 2>they were what.

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<v Speaker 1>Hit you or I never actually got hit because I

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<v Speaker 1>was very fast. But I remember one one guy saying

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<v Speaker 1>to me back then and he said, it's girls like

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<v Speaker 1>you that deserve a punch in the face because I

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<v Speaker 1>had a really big mouth, because I got angry in

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<v Speaker 1>the end. And I remember at the start, I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of did it, and then I stopped for three months

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<v Speaker 1>because I just couldn't mentally handle it. And so what

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<v Speaker 1>happened was I went to this job and I was

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<v Speaker 1>just getting really mouthy with guys and though, fuck you

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<v Speaker 1>getting you confident now in the stage, Oh, yes, yes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that was the thing because I realized that I could

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<v Speaker 1>kind of say it and get away with it, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think I got a bit of power and

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<v Speaker 1>it went to my head and so I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>fuck you, go fuck yourself, go wenk yourself, asshole, and

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<v Speaker 1>they're like, well, you know, and in those days that

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<v Speaker 1>they would really hit girls who were working without any ramifications.

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<v Speaker 1>And I remember this guy came really close to me.

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<v Speaker 1>He says, girls like you that deserve a punch in

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<v Speaker 1>the face. And I said, we'll go and cunt punch me.

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<v Speaker 1>Give it your best shot, because if I get back up,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to kill you, and like it was your size.

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<v Speaker 1>But I was so cocky and so confident that I

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<v Speaker 1>really thought if he punched me that I wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 1>knocked out flat on the ground, which I would have been.

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<v Speaker 1>I would have got back up and killed him. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what I really believed within myself, you know, because you

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<v Speaker 1>were invincible at that age, you know. I just thought, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to give him my mouth by yourself. That

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<v Speaker 1>was yeah, yeah. No. I never had protection or anything

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<v Speaker 1>like that. No, so I had to use my brain

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<v Speaker 1>to really, I guess predict what they said. And there

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<v Speaker 1>is something that I called the hooker's sixth sense. You

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<v Speaker 1>know how you have the five senses, and you know

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<v Speaker 1>you might lose your sight while your smell we're hearing.

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<v Speaker 1>With something like that, there's this hook of sixth sense.

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<v Speaker 1>And what happens is it develops over time and you'll

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<v Speaker 1>meet a guy and your gut will start churning. He's

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<v Speaker 1>done everything right, he's given the address, he's given the

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<v Speaker 1>nearest cross street, he's given his mobile number, his landline,

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<v Speaker 1>he's done everything right. But you walk in and your

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<v Speaker 1>gut is churning for no reason, and he's getting you

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<v Speaker 1>a drink and he's really nice, and inside your gut

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<v Speaker 1>is telling you get the fuck out now. But you've

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<v Speaker 1>got that money in your hand, and you're kind of

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<v Speaker 1>obligated to stay while you feel obligated. So I know

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<v Speaker 1>I could have handed the money back, should have trusted

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<v Speaker 1>my gut, And sometimes in the end I did. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't for the sake of the money, because the

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<v Speaker 1>money was the addiction, and you think, oh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll just put up with this, it'll be fine, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>get out of this. But there was one one particular

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<v Speaker 1>time I remember, I really thought I was going to die.

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<v Speaker 1>I really thought I was going to die. And it

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<v Speaker 1>was that scenario where everything was right, There was nothing

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<v Speaker 1>wrong with this guy. Why was my gut churning? Why

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<v Speaker 1>was my hooker gut telling me get the fuck out

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<v Speaker 1>of there? Throw the money at him and run. Did

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<v Speaker 1>I throw the money? No? I didn't. I went into

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<v Speaker 1>the room with him, and he ejaculated very fast, and

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<v Speaker 1>he just hit the roof. I have never seen, were

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<v Speaker 1>experienced anything like it. I'm not scared of guys with

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<v Speaker 1>a gun or a knife. I'm used to that. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>scared of guys that just sit there with nothing and

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<v Speaker 1>threatened to kill you or threaten to hurt you, or

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<v Speaker 1>say you're not leaving. But he said to me, enjoy

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<v Speaker 1>the two hundred and fifty dollars, get the fuck out

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<v Speaker 1>of here. I'm like, oh, I still got a bit

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<v Speaker 1>of the hour left, you know, And he's like, get

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<v Speaker 1>the fuck out. And I was wearing trousers, and I

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<v Speaker 1>put my trousers on back to front. So that's how

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<v Speaker 1>nervous I was. Yeah, my legs, my legs shake. And

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<v Speaker 1>when I'm really really nervous, my legs will be shaking,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was uncontrollable, and I thought, I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>a poor animal would feel that knows it's about to die,

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<v Speaker 1>and you just cannot control that trembling. And I just

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't control it, and you freeze on the spot because

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<v Speaker 1>I remember looking at the bathroom door, thinking, if I

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<v Speaker 1>can just get in there and maybe lock myself in,

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<v Speaker 1>why don't I just get my phone out, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>why don't I do this? Do that? But I didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I just was like this, not making eye contact and

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<v Speaker 1>going like this and trying to get those trousers on,

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<v Speaker 1>which was really hard because I were back to the front,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm thinking, what's going on? What's going on? And

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<v Speaker 1>my hand was shaking on the doorknob because I walked out,

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<v Speaker 1>and I thought, I'll just keep my head down, okay, okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>And I walked out and I put my hand on

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<v Speaker 1>the doorknob and it was shaking, and I'm like, God,

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<v Speaker 1>crawd open open. It was like a movie, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're like anyone watching would have gone for just

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<v Speaker 1>fucking open the door and get out, you know, but

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't. I couldn't. And he came and I felt

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<v Speaker 1>his breath up behind me on my neck, and I thought, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>this is it. I'm dead. This is the moment I die.

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<v Speaker 1>And you don't do all those things you think you

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<v Speaker 1>would do. And remember I was a very cocky hooker.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a very big mouth, and I was very

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<v Speaker 1>sure of myself. But that moment I wasn't. I just melted.

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<v Speaker 1>I became nothing. He put his hand on mine and

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<v Speaker 1>opened the door and he just went enjoy the two

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifty dollars, okay. And I remember seeing daylight, sunlight,

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<v Speaker 1>and I thought, oh gosh, I got out of that.

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<v Speaker 1>So a lot of my friends didn't get out of

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<v Speaker 1>those situations, and they're not here to speak today because

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<v Speaker 1>of that, you know, because they went into that industry

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<v Speaker 1>and nobody looked after you. Then nobody cared. Everyone cared

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<v Speaker 1>about the money. The pimps cared about the money. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't matter if you had a complaint. I was told

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<v Speaker 1>do your job.

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen that when I was used to work in

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<v Speaker 2>the dress.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know exactly what it's like. Yeah, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't have all the legislation and the rights you

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<v Speaker 1>have now. Yeah, there wasn't anything like stealthy and law

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<v Speaker 1>or anything there is now. So guys were ripping off

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<v Speaker 1>the condoms, especially during the HIV, you know, the pandemic

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<v Speaker 1>we had then that was a really scary time. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we used to use the no Noxyl nine condoms to

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<v Speaker 1>do blowjobs. I'd learned how to do a blowjob by then.

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<v Speaker 2>How did you learn how to do it? Well, that's

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<v Speaker 2>good to do. I want to know about this one.

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<v Speaker 2>How did you learn to do the blowjob? I just

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<v Speaker 2>did you practice on someone at old first?

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<v Speaker 1>You know how you used to get the orange and practice.

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<v Speaker 2>What you practice on an orange?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, do you guys practice going down with

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<v Speaker 1>a girl? You know, like.

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<v Speaker 2>Practice on an orange? What the fuck?

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<v Speaker 1>No? No, but no, no your practice yeah, kissing, your

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<v Speaker 1>practice on an orange? But you never kiss them anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>But he used to kind of practice.

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<v Speaker 2>You used to practice kiss on an orange?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Really?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, just I don't know. So I knew how that one.

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<v Speaker 1>It's practice on a banana, practice on a banana? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but then not all cocks look about like bananas. It

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<v Speaker 1>was like it was like, oh, this this one's different.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, the way to get it a guy? And

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<v Speaker 1>this is the guys was so mean to me, it's

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<v Speaker 1>so nasty. The way to get to them, and I

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<v Speaker 1>figured that out was to just they'd be naked and

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<v Speaker 1>they'd be laying there and this is really terrible, but

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<v Speaker 1>I just look and and I go and then they go,

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<v Speaker 1>what what? And I go, Okay, everyone's different, Mate, plant

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<v Speaker 1>that seed and that guy will never forget that. A

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<v Speaker 1>hooker said, something's different. He's going to be forever trying

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<v Speaker 1>to get validation, you know, particular right, So we came

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<v Speaker 1>up with things like that.