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Speaker 1: And with Kate Ritchie podcast. This is an interesting one

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Speaker 1: catfish stories. It just blows me away, and I'm saddened

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Speaker 1: by people that actually are lonely enough to fall into

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Speaker 1: the trap at the catfish.

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Speaker 2: I think I have to step in very early here.

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Speaker 2: When you paint people like that as like sad and lonely.

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Speaker 3: Like andau nothing.

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Speaker 2: It's not that kind of painting.

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Speaker 1: I think we got that under original.

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Speaker 2: I think it is somewhere.

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Speaker 1: Is it floating around?

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Speaker 2: Is at my house?

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Speaker 4: Actually we have got an amazing prize for Kate today.

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Speaker 3: Later on in the show in prison.

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Speaker 2: I want you to say sad and lonely about these people,

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Speaker 2: because I think that that's okay.

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Speaker 1: Well if you if this happened to you, I would

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Speaker 1: be surprised you had enough time in your day to

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Speaker 1: focus on what's going on here. So I suggest they

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Speaker 1: have enough time to commit to somebody who's catfishing. That's

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Speaker 1: what concerns me, okay. And you know what this does

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Speaker 1: happen more than you think. Where someone is through social

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Speaker 1: media or email, whatever it might be, is contacting someone

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Speaker 1: pretending to be somebody else. This story was on sixty

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Speaker 1: minutes and it's been floating around for a while because

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Speaker 1: we know Lincoln Lewis, son of Wally Lewis and Home

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Speaker 1: and Away Star, was caught up in this, but he

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Speaker 1: was completely innocent, had nothing to do with it. So

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Speaker 1: this was a woman by the name of Lydia who

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Speaker 1: over a decade pretended to be Lincoln Lewis. Yeah, this story.

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Speaker 2: Is extraordinary, incredible.

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Speaker 1: So this woman, first off, met Lincoln Lewis on an aeroplane.

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Speaker 1: She was a flight attendant. Lincoln Lewis was on the plane,

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Speaker 1: so they started chatting. Anyway, she must have taken to

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Speaker 1: social media to say on Facebook, great flight today. I

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Speaker 1: can't believe it had Lincoln Lewis on there.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's right, because there is a photo of her

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Speaker 2: standing in the aisle in her uniform.

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Speaker 1: Can't believe I got to meet Lincoln Lewis. It's awesome.

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Speaker 1: Then it went on and somebody then obviously was able

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Speaker 1: to get her details and start messaging her pretending to

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Speaker 1: be Lincoln Lewis.

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Speaker 4: Saying great, I was so good to meet you on

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Speaker 4: the flight the day You're lovely.

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Speaker 1: And this is how cat fishing often starts.

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Speaker 3: So my favorite Home and Away character.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was raymar Alf Stewart, which was great. That's

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Speaker 1: that's the top. Didn't get to mention. No, no, Angel did,

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Speaker 1: but not Kate. There's been a message. Wow, yeh, I

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Speaker 1: know who Angel is. I'll have to tell you a

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Speaker 1: little bit more about that place. Anyway. So this went

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Speaker 1: on and on. It starts with basic chat, then it

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Speaker 1: becomes friendship, then it becomes more intimate where they start

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Speaker 1: sharing details and they're going back and forth. So this

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Speaker 1: girl by the name of Jess constantly wanted to catch

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Speaker 1: up with Lincoln Lewis, When are we going to meet?

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Speaker 1: When can we chat? Finally it got to this stage.

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Speaker 1: You have a listen to this from sixteen.

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Speaker 2: In twenty thirteen, Lincoln suddenly wanted to be more than

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Speaker 2: just friends. Jess was pleasantly surprised by the celebrities attention.

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Speaker 5: I still remember the actual day that it all changed.

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Speaker 5: I recall him saying can I call you? And I

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Speaker 5: was like, oh my god, okay, you used to call me?

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Speaker 5: And I thought, wow, okay, why not? So I gave

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Speaker 5: him my number?

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Speaker 3: How did you? How did she get past that? How

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Speaker 3: did the catfish get past because fish is a woman,

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Speaker 3: I know, so how do.

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Speaker 1: The phone calls? Would never happen. The calls would continue

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Speaker 1: to be missed, so they were constantly trying to work out.

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Speaker 1: Then she was able to work out how she could

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Speaker 1: have a voice sounding like Lincoln Lewis on the end

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Speaker 1: of the phone.

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Speaker 3: She was doing impersonations.

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Speaker 1: Guys, welcome to the bay. It's Lincoln Lewis. My dad's

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Speaker 1: the king because he is up and a bow. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's got a great energy. How's this? So, so it

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Speaker 1: went from conversation to this girl Jess continuing continuously saying

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Speaker 1: I want to meet you, we must spend time together.

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Speaker 1: A whole heap of excuses continue to flow. Then she said,

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Speaker 1: why don't we skype? Why don't we jump on FaceTime

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Speaker 1: right and we can have a chat via zoom.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes sense.

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Speaker 1: So the next thing, you know, the zoom cannects. She says,

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Speaker 1: I remember seeing him and talking.

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Speaker 3: It's a cutout. I'd say, was it? No, I'm thinking

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Speaker 3: it's not.

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Speaker 4: Is it like his mouth's not moving and she's hardboard

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Speaker 4: cut out?

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Speaker 3: How's it going?

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the bay.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, how do you get away with that?

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Speaker 1: So she would say something and then there was a

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Speaker 1: bit of a delay and a few minutes later you

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Speaker 1: would see him and he was laughing and giggling. He

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Speaker 1: didn't say too much. She was like, oh my god,

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Speaker 1: it's actually Lincoln Lewis. This is what we used to

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Speaker 1: zoom with Lincoln Lewis.

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Speaker 2: And he's nervous.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's nervous.

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Speaker 4: This is what we used to do with Dicky. Remember

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Speaker 4: we got him with the Robbie Williams stickch that's true,

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Speaker 4: and we said we're Robbie Williams. But they were just

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Speaker 4: sound bites from Robbie Williams interview. So what she'd done,

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Speaker 4: she'd managed to trick this girl Jess into thinking she

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Speaker 4: was speaking to Lincoln Lewis by using a software that

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Speaker 4: can take video footage of a person and turn it

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Speaker 4: into a real life scenario.

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Speaker 3: Well it's worse now with AI, isn't it.

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Speaker 1: That's how far it got. So she's starting to think

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Speaker 1: I'm in a relationship with Lincoln Lewis, friends, and this

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Speaker 1: is tight, and everything's going really well. Then there was

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Speaker 1: a moment where he was meant to be on an

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Speaker 1: aeroplane flying to somewhere else and there was a breakdown

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Speaker 1: in details, which led her to finally say, Hey, who

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Speaker 1: are you, and who am I talking to the other person? Thought,

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Speaker 1: we've been so close. Now if I tell him who

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Speaker 1: I really am, I'm sure that'll be fine as well.

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Speaker 1: But it shattered this poor girl's life.

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Speaker 2: Oh so the woman who was doing the catfishing was

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Speaker 2: quite happy to offer up the friendship as well.

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Speaker 1: So from her.

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Speaker 2: Side, did she was she trying to be awful to

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Speaker 2: these people she was catfishing? She getting something out of it?

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Speaker 2: She thought she was in a relationship as well.

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Speaker 1: Correct me if I'm wrong. Tommy Casey Donovan was catfish, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: big time, and it was. She thought she was almost

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Speaker 1: in an online relationship with a guy who then taught

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Speaker 1: him or something who then turned up at the front

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Speaker 1: door turned out to be a woman. Yep, spot on,

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Speaker 1: and then they started a relationship in person anyway. Way,

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Speaker 1: Oh what a twist in the old fishing twisting, the

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Speaker 1: huge I can't get over.

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Speaker 2: I cannot get over these stories.

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Speaker 1: There's people out there that think their own relationships with

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Speaker 1: Kate Ritchie they could be.

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