WEBVTT - Why is Prince Harry styling himself as a statesman? 

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<v Speaker 1>From The Australian. Here's what's on the front. I'm Claire Harvey.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Tuesday, April twenty eight, twenty twenty six. Penny Woe

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<v Speaker 1>wants China to commit to fuel and fertilizer for Australia,

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<v Speaker 1>and she's prepared to leverage our ninety three billion dollar

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<v Speaker 1>iron ore trade to get it. The Foreign Minister will

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<v Speaker 1>meet with her Asian counterparts on a diplomatic trip this week.

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<v Speaker 1>Plans by the Albanese government to shake up capital gains

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<v Speaker 1>tax and negative gearing in next month's federal budget would

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<v Speaker 1>add just five billion dollars to the bottom line over

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<v Speaker 1>the next four years, and it would do little to

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<v Speaker 1>improve housing supply, according to a new analysis in The

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<v Speaker 1>Australian Today. Those exclusives alive right now at Beaustralian dot

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<v Speaker 1>com dot au. He's picked a fight with Donald Trump,

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<v Speaker 1>embarked on an unsanctioned royal tour and undermined one of

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<v Speaker 1>his late grandmother's last wishes. So what is rins Harry

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<v Speaker 1>playing at and what will the Royals do about it?

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<v Speaker 1>Today we unpack the inner workings of Sussex Inc. With

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<v Speaker 1>Associate editor Jenna Clark. She's here in just a moment.

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<v Speaker 1>Jenna Clark is an associate editor with The Australian, and

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<v Speaker 1>I've dragged it back into the front to help me

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<v Speaker 1>understand what on earth Harry and Meghan, the Duke and

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<v Speaker 1>Duchess of Sussex, are actually up to. Jenna, I am

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<v Speaker 1>looking at the statement that the Queen released in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty after the so called Sandringham Summit, where Harry and

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<v Speaker 1>Meghan had pitched their big idea of being half in

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<v Speaker 1>half out working not working royals, and what the Queen

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<v Speaker 1>said at the time was that with a Queen's blessing,

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<v Speaker 1>the Sussexes will continue to maintain their private patronages and

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<v Speaker 1>associations while they can no longer formally represent the Queen.

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<v Speaker 1>The Sussexes have made clear that everything they do will

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<v Speaker 1>continue to uphold the values of Her Majesty. The Sussexes

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<v Speaker 1>will not use their His or her Royal Highness titles

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<v Speaker 1>as they are no longer working members of the royal family.

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<v Speaker 1>So looking at what the Sussexes are actually up to,

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<v Speaker 1>and let's start with Prince Harry's visit to Ukraine, where

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<v Speaker 1>he showed up in Kiev and made a speech nominally

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<v Speaker 1>in association with his Invictus charity.

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<v Speaker 2>Ladies and gentlemen, distinguished leaders and friends, it is an

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<v Speaker 2>honor and a privilege to return to Kiev, my third

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<v Speaker 2>visit to your beautiful country, and the privilege to be

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<v Speaker 2>asked to speak to you today.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think they're sticking to the letter of that

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<v Speaker 1>agreement with the Queen?

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<v Speaker 3>Look.

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<v Speaker 4>I think they would definitely have lawyers poring over that

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<v Speaker 4>statement for sure, because it just seems a very, very

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<v Speaker 4>confusing considering we've just come off the back of that

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<v Speaker 4>non royal royal tour slash money making exercise in Australia,

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<v Speaker 4>and then all of a sudden he's hosting and fronting

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<v Speaker 4>security summits in Ukraine, which you know, sure, but I

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<v Speaker 4>don't think that their whole concept of what the Sussexes

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<v Speaker 4>actually stand for and what their brand is all about

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<v Speaker 4>has really cutting through. I don't even think Harry knows

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<v Speaker 4>exactly what he's doing, and I think he just looks

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<v Speaker 4>like a little boy lost and that's why he's running

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<v Speaker 4>around the globe now embarking on these trauma porn tours.

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<v Speaker 2>I am not here as a politician. I am here

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<v Speaker 2>as a soldier who understands service as a humanitarian, who

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<v Speaker 2>has seen the human cost of conflict, and as a

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<v Speaker 2>friend of Ukraine who believes the world must not grow

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<v Speaker 2>used to this war or numb to its consequences.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of sad to see him almost sort of

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<v Speaker 1>playing dress ups as a royal, isn't it, going to

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<v Speaker 1>lay wreaths at cenotaphs and showing up, as you say,

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<v Speaker 1>in war zones Like if I did that, people would

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<v Speaker 1>think I was insane.

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<v Speaker 4>Look, I think you can kind of understand where Harry

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<v Speaker 4>is coming from, because when he did kick off his

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<v Speaker 4>remarks in Ukraine, he did, you know, I'm here as

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<v Speaker 4>a soldier. And one thing that we all understand about

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<v Speaker 4>the armed forces, you never ever leave because it is

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<v Speaker 4>your family, it is your you know, it is basically

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<v Speaker 4>more than a vocation, and it's do with you for life.

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<v Speaker 4>So you can understand his passion for that, and we

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<v Speaker 4>see that through Invictus and things like that. But then

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<v Speaker 4>when he's standing there saying I don't come as a royal,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't come as a politician. I come as a humanitarian.

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<v Speaker 4>It's all very you know, the American buzzwords just keep

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<v Speaker 4>popping up. He's and he's telling one of his favorite

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<v Speaker 4>journalists when he's there, I'm here to speak truth to

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<v Speaker 4>power and you couldn't help it, Ayral thinking you've definitely

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<v Speaker 4>caught that on the school run in Montecito.

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<v Speaker 2>For sure, this is a moment for American leadership, a

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<v Speaker 2>moment for America to show that it can honor its

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<v Speaker 2>international treaty obligations, not out of charity, but out of

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<v Speaker 2>its own enduring role in global security and strategic stability.

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<v Speaker 4>It just feels a bit icky about what he's sort

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<v Speaker 4>of doing. He's kind of like the Malcolm Turmbul of Royals.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, he used to be cool, so influential within

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<v Speaker 4>the institution of which he helmed, and then it just

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<v Speaker 4>turned out to be a really big disappointment. Now you know,

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<v Speaker 4>they're just boring white dudes throwing rocks from their mansions.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just really disappointing.

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<v Speaker 2>Prince Harry, how's he doing?

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<v Speaker 5>How's his wife?

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<v Speaker 2>Please give him my regards? Okay, No, no, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I know one thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Prince Harry is not speaking for the UK, that's for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I'm speaking for the UK more than Prince Harry.

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<v Speaker 2>But I appreciate his advice, great advice.

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<v Speaker 1>He also started a fight with Donald Trump, and Harry

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<v Speaker 1>is not silly. He would have known that going to

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<v Speaker 1>a war zone and essentially criticizing the West and Trump

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<v Speaker 1>for not having saved Ukraine before now was going to

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<v Speaker 1>start a fight. And Donald Trump, you know, was happy

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<v Speaker 1>to play ball. He really criticized Harry quite sharply. And

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<v Speaker 1>this is someone Trump is a massive monoch. Kirsten royalists.

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<v Speaker 1>He loves the royal family, he loves the pomp and ceremony.

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<v Speaker 1>You think you get the field. He was quite late

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<v Speaker 1>to be king himself. We're just waiting for those means

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<v Speaker 1>to roll through next week. And again you can just imagine.

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<v Speaker 4>The absolute clutching of pearls that's going on not only

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<v Speaker 4>in Buckingham Palace from this visit from Harry, but also

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<v Speaker 4>number ten because don't forget, we've got the state visit

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<v Speaker 4>from King Charles and Queen Kimilla kicking off to the

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<v Speaker 4>US within a manner of hours. And the fact that

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<v Speaker 4>you know, Charles has basically been dispatched to fix everything

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<v Speaker 4>that Sirkis Starmer has cannot do. It is just it's

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<v Speaker 4>going to be one for the ages, that's for sure,

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<v Speaker 4>and it is interesting to see some of the commentators

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<v Speaker 4>say that maybe this is a trip that, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>Queen Elizabeth would have canceled. But Charles is sticking to

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<v Speaker 4>his guns and he's heading over there to the United

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<v Speaker 4>States after a very fractuous weekend obviously for the President

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<v Speaker 4>and the administration.

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<v Speaker 5>But we begin with what appears to have been an

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<v Speaker 5>assassination attempt on the president another one and his top

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<v Speaker 5>officials in Washington, DC yesterday. Donald Trump has called the

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<v Speaker 5>accused and sick and described a frightening incident as a

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<v Speaker 5>moment of unity.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's going to be very interesting.

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<v Speaker 4>I think maybe Harry's comments could be the least of

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<v Speaker 4>their problems, but definitely for the royal family, it's going

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<v Speaker 4>to be front and center. I mean, maybe I've got

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<v Speaker 4>this conspiracy theory that probably I need to add some

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<v Speaker 4>meat to the bones that Harry is basically being dispatched,

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<v Speaker 4>this double agent to the royal family, you know, go

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<v Speaker 4>in there and add some WD forty to an international

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<v Speaker 4>a very tricky international situation. And then the official royals

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<v Speaker 4>come in and add the pomp and grandeur and the

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<v Speaker 4>tiaras and the air kisses with the administration to kind

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<v Speaker 4>of make things all rosy again. I'm pretty sure the

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<v Speaker 4>British government and the royal family would like that right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a role that the Queen might not have

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<v Speaker 1>thought of. It would probably be quite useful and certainly

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<v Speaker 1>saw Trump absolutely loving being fated at Buckingham Palace, sitting

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<v Speaker 1>next to Katter and toasting her. She was wearing a

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<v Speaker 1>gold sort of larmeaie dress, which was very appropriate for him.

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<v Speaker 1>It looked like the wallpaper at Trump Tower in New

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<v Speaker 1>York City.

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<v Speaker 4>Totally, it was very much Shamara a Lago meets Sandria.

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<v Speaker 4>And again this is the genius of the royals. They

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<v Speaker 4>absolutely knew how to play Trump like a fiddle, knowing

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<v Speaker 4>full well that he loves, like you said, to be

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<v Speaker 4>fated and to be treated like king. So watch out

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<v Speaker 4>what this mean factory could have installed this week. But

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<v Speaker 4>also on the flip side of that is the darker

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<v Speaker 4>side to don't forget that there's still this bubbling issue

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<v Speaker 4>in the US around Harry's visa, because remember when it

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<v Speaker 4>was disclosed that he used drugs in his memoir, that

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<v Speaker 4>has sort of been one of the aces in Trump's

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<v Speaker 4>back pocket when there's ever sort of some criticism around

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<v Speaker 4>the Royal family or all things like that, but that

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<v Speaker 4>sort of been put on the back burner by the

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<v Speaker 4>security department over there. So it's going to be interesting

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<v Speaker 4>to see when that issue arises, probably within the Daily

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<v Speaker 4>Mail in the next couple of weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up. How Megan's spinning her wardrobe into passive income.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about Meghan on the quasi Royal tour of Australia.

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<v Speaker 1>There were some engagements which were strictly commercial. There were

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<v Speaker 1>some engagements which were not, like, for example, the visit

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<v Speaker 1>to a children's hospital.

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<v Speaker 6>This was the first official stop for Harry and Meghan

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<v Speaker 6>on their Australian too I hear at the Royal Children's

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<v Speaker 6>Hospital in Melbourne. There was quite a lot of build

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<v Speaker 6>up well before they arrived, with lots of patients and

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<v Speaker 6>families and visitors and even staff gathering here in the

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<v Speaker 6>foyer of the hospital hoping for a chance to see

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<v Speaker 6>Harry and Meghan and even have a word.

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<v Speaker 1>But those were subsequently commercialized by the launch of her

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<v Speaker 1>involvement and in fact her part ownership in a platform

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<v Speaker 1>where you could shop Meghan's wardrobe. Now she is undoubtedly

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<v Speaker 1>one of the most stylish women in the world. She's

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<v Speaker 1>a great influence on fashion and you know she's seeing

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<v Speaker 1>an opportunity there to make some money.

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<v Speaker 5>Can you tell me a.

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<v Speaker 1>Little bit about that platform, How does it work and

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<v Speaker 1>what does it mean for that line that the Queen

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<v Speaker 1>drew about everything that the success did being within her

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<v Speaker 1>Majesty's values.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it is.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that would be the one thing that would

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<v Speaker 4>definitely stick in the late Queen's cross, specifically with the

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<v Speaker 4>fact that you know, I mean, you see a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of those fan sites now popping up probably on your

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<v Speaker 4>Instagram or your or your TikTok accounts, where they sort

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<v Speaker 4>of highlight exactly what specific royal members of royal families

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<v Speaker 4>from around the globe a wearing on certain occasions. Meghan

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<v Speaker 4>has decided that she would like some affiliate links for

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<v Speaker 4>the affluent. She has sort of spun it the way

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<v Speaker 4>that she wants to make sure that specific brands that

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<v Speaker 4>she chooses to wear because she understands her power, her

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<v Speaker 4>commercial power. They receive the kickbacks and the financial gains

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<v Speaker 4>from when people go searching for things that she wears

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<v Speaker 4>in public. But the very difference, the difference part there

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<v Speaker 4>is that she will also be receiving, as reported by Vogue,

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<v Speaker 4>I believe between ten and fifteen percent in commission of

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<v Speaker 4>all those sales. And look, on one hand, it's been

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<v Speaker 4>amazing because apparently it was an incredible coup when she

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<v Speaker 4>launched it in Australia, because a lot of local brands

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<v Speaker 4>such as Mateo, Camilla and Mark received quite a bit

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<v Speaker 4>of a boost from having her wear they're wears around town.

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<v Speaker 4>But also I think it's one thing for them to receive,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, one hundred percent of those profits from when

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<v Speaker 4>people decide to go online and search for that specific

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<v Speaker 4>trench code or that specific shirt. But Megan is getting

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<v Speaker 4>a handy little profit on the side there. But again

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<v Speaker 4>I guess girl's got to eat. Girls got to bank

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<v Speaker 4>some money to make your jam.

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<v Speaker 1>The difference with Kasher and when she very consciously wears

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<v Speaker 1>something by a designer whom she wants to boost is

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<v Speaker 1>that she doesn't get a cut, but it is incredibly effective.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a brand called Strathberry of handmade kind of

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<v Speaker 1>handbags and luggage in the United Kingdom which was little

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<v Speaker 1>known until she wore a couple of their clutches here

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<v Speaker 1>and there. That is now a multi multi one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>million dollar one hundred million pound business in the UK.

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<v Speaker 1>She single handedly saved it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and I think she also did that with a

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<v Speaker 4>Hosary brand, much to Meghan's probably disapproval, and also l

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<v Speaker 4>K Bennett when she burst on the scene shortly after

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<v Speaker 4>her wedding where she wore the LK. Bennett nude pumps

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<v Speaker 4>and they are now a bit of a staple for

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<v Speaker 4>every single, you know, millennial and Oldham gen y woman

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<v Speaker 4>known to me.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got a pair. I have a pair, even though

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<v Speaker 1>I'm slightly older than those. You know. I'm a massive

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<v Speaker 1>fan of the Katherine wardrobe. I even bought a hat

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<v Speaker 1>that she wants wore to be you know, when they

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<v Speaker 1>do the procession to church on Christmas Day, she was

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<v Speaker 1>wearing this cool sort of blue Ford araal which I

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<v Speaker 1>then bought that would.

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<v Speaker 4>Look it amazing. I am a sucker for a print

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<v Speaker 4>and I have bought my little ones the replicas of

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<v Speaker 4>the Jenny K Kowala jumper, the Princess Diana war I

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<v Speaker 4>think in the late babies, and I wish it fit me.

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<v Speaker 3>I love it.

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<v Speaker 6>Well.

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<v Speaker 1>We're just doing our part for fashion, keeping the fashion

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<v Speaker 1>industry alive.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep, well without getting links.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly, surely we could monetize this. Now there's a

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<v Speaker 1>speculation that the main royals, the Prince and Princess of Wales,

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<v Speaker 1>are going to be coming to Australia on a tour,

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<v Speaker 1>and speculation I'm seeing in some magazines that the Sussex's

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<v Speaker 1>visit has kind of accelerated their planning or made it

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<v Speaker 1>more meaningful for them to come. What do you think

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<v Speaker 1>about that.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that's very true, and I think that they're

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<v Speaker 4>probably going to be watching things like opinion polls bubbling

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<v Speaker 4>away in the background, because we tend to forget that

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<v Speaker 4>it's not just the royal family, it's those hardcore coterias

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<v Speaker 4>in the background, which are very much like political animals.

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<v Speaker 4>They are watching to make sure, you know, when they

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<v Speaker 4>need to go and sprinkle a little bit of fairy

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<v Speaker 4>dust on Commonwealth nations, to make sure that they understand

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<v Speaker 4>that they are still a part of our country, whether

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<v Speaker 4>some people in the Republican movement like it or not,

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<v Speaker 4>they're still the heads of state to some varying levels.

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<v Speaker 4>People that understand and look, I think if you could

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<v Speaker 4>imagine after the winter, we're probably going to have very

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<v Speaker 4>uncertain times, the budget is looking pretty bleak, and then

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<v Speaker 4>all of a sudden, springtime comes and there we have

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<v Speaker 4>imagined the Prince and Princess of Wales and potentially they

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<v Speaker 4>could even bring their three children, which would be a

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<v Speaker 4>massive coup that would probably set social media and the

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<v Speaker 4>local media and of course their fans alike. If they're

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<v Speaker 4>on the steps of the Sydney Opper House comes September

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<v Speaker 4>or something like.

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<v Speaker 1>That, well, I'll start saving up right now because I

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<v Speaker 1>think I'll be purchasing some sailor suits for my children

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, yipsid what are they called fascinators for myself.

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<v Speaker 3>Definitely, I'll see you there. I'll bring the parasol.

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<v Speaker 1>Jenny Clark, thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks for that.

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<v Speaker 1>Jenna Clark is an associate editor with The Australian. You

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<v Speaker 1>can check out all the latest from Buckingham Palace and

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<v Speaker 1>Montecito anytime at the Australian dot com dot a yu