WEBVTT - CREEPY OR CUTE? THE DOBLER DAHMER THEORY 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:01.000 He wasn't happy. 0:00:01.200 --> 0:00:03.320 He was not He was like ready to kiss someone 0:00:03.320 --> 0:00:05.800 else that night and break up with her in two 0:00:05.880 --> 0:00:09.600 to three business days and say, sos, this ain't working out. 0:00:14.640 --> 0:00:19.760 Where's Your Head At? Is a podcast that talks all things. 0:00:19.880 --> 0:00:24.840 Hold on a sec, let's give this a refresh. Hi. 0:00:25.239 --> 0:00:27.880 I'm Anna and I'm Matt, and we are now too 0:00:27.920 --> 0:00:30.840 newlywed not to each other. Just a female and male 0:00:30.920 --> 0:00:33.000 best friend here for the good, the bad, and the 0:00:33.080 --> 0:00:34.479 ugly times and. 0:00:34.520 --> 0:00:38.560 Exploring adulthood, family relationships, dilemmas. 0:00:38.200 --> 0:00:40.720 And whatever else we have the mental capacity to deal with. 0:00:41.080 --> 0:00:42.080 Come get the lowdown. 0:00:42.280 --> 0:00:44.040 This is your male and female perspective. 0:00:44.479 --> 0:00:46.279 So, Matt, where's your head at? 0:00:49.360 --> 0:00:52.080 So Anna, thank you for asking me where my head is? 0:00:53.560 --> 0:00:54.360 How are you today? 0:00:54.600 --> 0:00:54.840 Man? 0:00:54.840 --> 0:00:55.920 I small? 0:00:57.920 --> 0:01:00.000 I just thought I was bringing a really good idea. 0:01:00.080 --> 0:01:03.000 You to the why do you tell people and then 0:01:03.000 --> 0:01:03.840 they can decide? 0:01:04.319 --> 0:01:07.600 So I said, I said, instead of asking me, hey, 0:01:07.760 --> 0:01:09.720 how are you? What's going on? Just ask me where 0:01:09.760 --> 0:01:10.360 my head is at? 0:01:10.400 --> 0:01:14.000 But then I said, our new intro says, so, Matt, 0:01:14.040 --> 0:01:15.040 where's your head at? 0:01:15.240 --> 0:01:17.520 And I said, I'm not going to answer, being like 0:01:17.760 --> 0:01:19.880 so much to the intro. Yeah, I'm going to answer 0:01:19.920 --> 0:01:21.760 the intro. I feel like that's a separate thing, but 0:01:22.080 --> 0:01:26.800 you should say, well, no, we do, hey, hey, yo, 0:01:27.120 --> 0:01:28.480 And then we just go, well, so where's your head at? 0:01:28.520 --> 0:01:29.559 And we get into chat guys. 0:01:29.560 --> 0:01:30.479 I'm going to leave a poll. 0:01:30.800 --> 0:01:33.880 Should we have obviously the intro is there now permanently, 0:01:34.120 --> 0:01:37.199 which says, Matt, where's your head at? And then should 0:01:37.200 --> 0:01:38.800 I then say to Matt where's your head at? 0:01:38.920 --> 0:01:41.760 No? Well you don't just go straight away where's your head? No? 0:01:41.840 --> 0:01:44.720 So you go hello and hello Matt, So where's your 0:01:44.720 --> 0:01:45.520 head at? 0:01:46.160 --> 0:01:50.080 It sucks? Sorry, mag God's sold to you that I do. 0:01:50.120 --> 0:01:51.840 I think it's something that we keep doing. 0:01:51.680 --> 0:01:53.560 And people get familiar with that puppy. 0:01:53.680 --> 0:01:55.760 Then we asked our guests where the heads are. That's 0:01:55.800 --> 0:01:57.120 how we start the conversation. 0:01:57.440 --> 0:02:01.120 People know the name of the podcast, type it in 0:02:01.200 --> 0:02:01.880 to find it. 0:02:02.080 --> 0:02:06.040 Well, this is true, Well and my head is good. Thanks, 0:02:06.360 --> 0:02:08.160 that's where my head is. That I've actually taken up 0:02:08.200 --> 0:02:11.519 reading you. Yeah, so I don't know if I listed 0:02:11.560 --> 0:02:14.200 this on the goals for twenty twenty five, but I 0:02:14.200 --> 0:02:16.480 want to read. So we went into a bookshop the 0:02:16.560 --> 0:02:19.920 other day. Yeah, the kids got some books and then 0:02:19.960 --> 0:02:22.000 I was standing around like their section, looking at books 0:02:22.000 --> 0:02:24.440 with them, and I saw Goosebumps. 0:02:24.400 --> 0:02:27.280 And I was like, old, classic, old fave. 0:02:27.880 --> 0:02:29.200 Yeah, I used to read them when I was a kid. 0:02:29.240 --> 0:02:30.880 And I just picked one up and I looked at 0:02:30.919 --> 0:02:33.200 it and I was like, no, they'd already taken off. 0:02:33.240 --> 0:02:35.119 Actually I was still reading like the blurb and looking 0:02:35.160 --> 0:02:37.160 at it, and they'd already paid and walked out, and 0:02:37.200 --> 0:02:38.959 I was like, oh fuck, I'll get this. So I 0:02:39.040 --> 0:02:41.040 ran up to the thing, got it, and then like 0:02:41.080 --> 0:02:42.520 I caught up with them, and they're like, oh what 0:02:42.560 --> 0:02:43.840 we where were you? And I was like, I've got 0:02:43.880 --> 0:02:46.640 a book I'm going to read. So I've been reading that. 0:02:47.520 --> 0:02:48.880 So it's a kid's book essentially. 0:02:49.520 --> 0:02:51.680 I mean, yeah, sure, it's a kid's book, but like 0:02:51.720 --> 0:02:54.920 you got to start, I'm starting where I took off. 0:02:55.320 --> 0:02:57.560 So I quit reading for like a couple of years, 0:02:57.960 --> 0:03:01.400 So I'm going to take off where I left. My 0:03:01.520 --> 0:03:03.280 mom went to a charity shop and she brought me 0:03:03.320 --> 0:03:06.639 home like eight of them. Yeah, I got eight to read. 0:03:06.639 --> 0:03:07.480 I'm really excited. 0:03:08.080 --> 0:03:10.120 When I saw your mom the other day, she was 0:03:10.160 --> 0:03:12.480 extremely excited that you were reading. 0:03:12.960 --> 0:03:15.120 Didn't matter if it was Goosebumps, she was just like, 0:03:15.520 --> 0:03:18.880 thrilled to pieces you're reading. That's very cute. 0:03:18.960 --> 0:03:20.280 Yeah, we went to shops. We were looking for him 0:03:20.280 --> 0:03:22.760 as well. Remember that's right. Yeah, we'll go and try 0:03:22.800 --> 0:03:24.480 to find him in the shops. But my mom found 0:03:24.520 --> 0:03:25.239 him in a charity shop. 0:03:25.480 --> 0:03:27.120 Your mom was like, I can find them cheaper, and 0:03:27.200 --> 0:03:28.680 don't you worry, I've got you. 0:03:28.960 --> 0:03:31.080 But it actually had ones that you probably wouldn't find 0:03:31.080 --> 0:03:32.560 it in a shop anymore, like the older ones that 0:03:32.639 --> 0:03:33.960 when I was a kid I was reading. So it's 0:03:33.960 --> 0:03:36.880 pretty nostalgic to read them. Love it, it's fun. 0:03:37.120 --> 0:03:38.760 Love it heading back to your youth. 0:03:38.960 --> 0:03:41.120 Well, I'm going to and then I'll work up to 0:03:41.200 --> 0:03:44.560 read like more you know, adult books or more. Because 0:03:44.560 --> 0:03:45.960 I bumped into a mate when I was at a 0:03:45.960 --> 0:03:48.440 bookshop and he was like, you know, I'm getting this 0:03:48.520 --> 0:03:50.720 book and then I was like, oh, I've started trying 0:03:50.760 --> 0:03:53.080 to find Goosebumps. I'm reading Goosebumps. And he did have 0:03:53.080 --> 0:03:55.080 a little dig he was like, oh, yeah, I'm just 0:03:55.240 --> 0:03:57.800 I'm on the more adult stuff. And I was like, 0:03:58.200 --> 0:04:00.400 I was like, you saw that and said and I 0:04:00.440 --> 0:04:02.600 was like I was like, mate, like you know, like 0:04:03.240 --> 0:04:06.320 give me a break. I haven't read somewhere somewhere I 0:04:06.360 --> 0:04:08.600 haven't read. I'm not. I'm not saying I'm a professor 0:04:08.640 --> 0:04:09.120 at reading. 0:04:09.560 --> 0:04:13.000 Well, I'm on the baby books, which is not very 0:04:13.240 --> 0:04:15.680 very different spectrum to goosebumps. 0:04:16.200 --> 0:04:18.120 I read posy baby books. 0:04:18.960 --> 0:04:21.760 No, like not baby books like for babies. I mean 0:04:21.839 --> 0:04:24.920 like an adult book how to have a baby. 0:04:24.960 --> 0:04:26.120 I was just going to give you a cheek. I 0:04:26.120 --> 0:04:27.520 was just going to give you a cheat code. Then 0:04:27.560 --> 0:04:31.200 when you're reading to kids and your baby, you don't 0:04:31.200 --> 0:04:32.880 have to They don't they can't read, so you can 0:04:32.920 --> 0:04:35.720 make it up as whatever you want to do. So, 0:04:35.920 --> 0:04:37.800 like I look at the pictures sometimes and I just 0:04:37.800 --> 0:04:39.960 make my own thing off. They don't know different, they're 0:04:40.000 --> 0:04:42.080 not I think Sas one time was like you're not 0:04:42.080 --> 0:04:43.640 reading that, are you? And I was like, no, I'm 0:04:43.680 --> 0:04:44.960 making my own story off. 0:04:46.560 --> 0:04:49.520 Do you know what type of book I would imagine, 0:04:49.520 --> 0:04:51.960 because Okay, Michael sometimes reads. 0:04:52.520 --> 0:04:53.960 When I say reads, he makes. 0:04:53.800 --> 0:04:56.520 Up stories to our baby, but he makes up stories 0:04:56.520 --> 0:04:57.200 about himself. 0:04:57.240 --> 0:04:59.040 And I could just so see you doing the same thing. 0:04:59.160 --> 0:04:59.680 Yeah. 0:04:59.760 --> 0:05:02.080 Well, upon a time there was this guy and he 0:05:02.160 --> 0:05:03.880 was the lead singer in a band. He was a 0:05:03.920 --> 0:05:07.039 really cool guy. He's talking about himself. 0:05:08.120 --> 0:05:12.080 So I sort of so I don't really confuse her biography. 0:05:12.200 --> 0:05:15.320 I sort of used the pictures as what I'm trying 0:05:15.320 --> 0:05:17.440 to talk about, so it's not completely. 0:05:17.000 --> 0:05:18.400 Left your imagination. 0:05:18.880 --> 0:05:20.280 Man. I look at the pictures and it was like 0:05:20.320 --> 0:05:22.320 a duck doing something and I was just talking about 0:05:22.320 --> 0:05:23.520 what it was doing. But I was going into more 0:05:23.560 --> 0:05:26.000 details than like the four words that it says in 0:05:26.040 --> 0:05:28.120 a baby book. But yeah, there's a little cheap for 0:05:28.160 --> 0:05:31.520 you to my parenting. 0:05:33.480 --> 0:05:36.600 Okay, the Australian Open is on at the moment. We 0:05:36.960 --> 0:05:40.440 I specifically am a huge Australian Open fan. I thought 0:05:40.520 --> 0:05:42.039 you were Australian Open fan. 0:05:42.120 --> 0:05:44.520 Yeah, I do. I like one. Yeah, when it's on, 0:05:44.800 --> 0:05:48.240 I won't like follow it outside throughout the year, throughout 0:05:48.279 --> 0:05:50.400 the year. So Tammy and I went the other day 0:05:50.600 --> 0:05:53.320 for we came a swear house and we went and 0:05:53.320 --> 0:05:56.520 watched it. We watched Novak Lovely, and I watched Novak 0:05:56.520 --> 0:05:58.120 again last night with my sister. I went with. 0:05:58.080 --> 0:06:00.839 Emma, Oh you went last night, so you would have 0:06:00.960 --> 0:06:03.160 seen that he did not give an interview. 0:06:03.520 --> 0:06:05.839 Yeah, what did he say? We couldn't really hear. 0:06:06.200 --> 0:06:12.320 So he basically there's a Channel nine presenter who was 0:06:12.360 --> 0:06:16.320 making fun of him and his Serbian fans. I think 0:06:16.360 --> 0:06:19.520 it was during the time of COVID. I'm pretty sure. 0:06:19.920 --> 0:06:23.039 And he's still and he's still well. 0:06:23.080 --> 0:06:25.839 I think the footage has just come I think the 0:06:25.839 --> 0:06:28.520 footage has just come back out. He's seen this for 0:06:28.560 --> 0:06:32.479 the first time and he is not happy. So he 0:06:32.560 --> 0:06:34.280 is putting his foot down, and he said that he's 0:06:34.320 --> 0:06:36.920 not giving any more interviews with Channel nine until he 0:06:36.960 --> 0:06:41.599 receives a formal apology from either the journalist who is 0:06:41.640 --> 0:06:43.120 the one mocking him. 0:06:43.640 --> 0:06:47.400 Is this Chompers Tony Jones, Yeah, Chompers, And he's like 0:06:47.520 --> 0:06:50.320 and he's saying Novak sucks or something to them when 0:06:50.320 --> 0:06:51.000 they're chancing. 0:06:51.680 --> 0:06:54.280 I saw that, Yeah, it was something along those lines. 0:06:54.400 --> 0:06:54.640 Yeah. 0:06:54.800 --> 0:06:56.920 So he is like not happy, so he's like fully 0:06:56.920 --> 0:06:58.400 putting his foot down. Yeah. 0:06:58.400 --> 0:07:01.000 I think he has a bit of resentment towards Melbourne 0:07:01.320 --> 0:07:04.359 for how he was treated during COVID. He's not happy 0:07:04.400 --> 0:07:06.560 about it still, and I think this is kind of 0:07:06.600 --> 0:07:08.839 like he's got like a little bone to pick and 0:07:08.880 --> 0:07:11.760 this is where he's taking out his frustrations. Anyway, I 0:07:11.800 --> 0:07:14.480 guess it's gonna unfold throughout the week and we'll see 0:07:14.480 --> 0:07:14.880 what happens. 0:07:14.920 --> 0:07:17.440 We'll see if he gives another interview, if he sticks 0:07:17.480 --> 0:07:18.400 to his word, if. 0:07:18.320 --> 0:07:21.400 Channel nine's gonna cave in, give an apology, who knows 0:07:21.400 --> 0:07:22.000 what's gonna happen. 0:07:22.040 --> 0:07:22.679 But I'm excited. 0:07:23.000 --> 0:07:25.800 I love the stories in between the Australian Open. I 0:07:25.800 --> 0:07:28.240 think that's what I live for when it comes to 0:07:28.280 --> 0:07:29.400 the Ossie Open. 0:07:29.600 --> 0:07:31.400 Yeah, I don't get that invested in it. I mean 0:07:31.440 --> 0:07:35.880 I like to watch tennis. I enjoy. You're fully invested. Well, 0:07:35.960 --> 0:07:39.360 I were talking him before about that tennis player. 0:07:39.120 --> 0:07:40.880 The girl, Daniel Collins. 0:07:41.240 --> 0:07:44.360 Yeah, and how I saw that. My sister showed me 0:07:45.400 --> 0:07:47.400 how she had some stuff to say to the fans 0:07:47.400 --> 0:07:48.120 that were billing her. 0:07:48.360 --> 0:07:48.640 Yeah. 0:07:48.680 --> 0:07:53.720 She's definitely caused a stir and some controversy. She yeah, 0:07:54.000 --> 0:07:57.680 was getting booed, as a lot of people who reversing 0:07:57.800 --> 0:08:01.760 Australians do, because the crowd definitely has. 0:08:01.760 --> 0:08:02.720 Do you agree with booing? 0:08:05.600 --> 0:08:07.400 I mean it's a bit of entertainment. 0:08:08.200 --> 0:08:11.440 I obviously grew up and like still love wrestling, So 0:08:11.560 --> 0:08:14.440 you boo the bad guy? Yeah, But I think in 0:08:14.600 --> 0:08:17.800 real life competition, when they're real people, they're not portraying 0:08:17.800 --> 0:08:20.880 a character. I don't think you should boo I don't 0:08:20.880 --> 0:08:24.880 think so. I understand American football games and that they 0:08:24.880 --> 0:08:28.720 will make noise so they can't hear like calls from 0:08:28.760 --> 0:08:31.680 like the players, so they can't play properly. So they 0:08:31.720 --> 0:08:33.719 make a lot of noise so they can't hear when 0:08:33.720 --> 0:08:35.920 they call plays. Now I agree with that. That's but 0:08:35.960 --> 0:08:39.080 they're not booing. They're just making noise. But I don't 0:08:39.080 --> 0:08:41.680 think you should boo real people that are athletes. 0:08:42.280 --> 0:08:48.520 Yeah, look quite, I've quite enjoyed this situation. I obviously 0:08:48.520 --> 0:08:51.640 don't agree with booing, but I do love the theater 0:08:52.080 --> 0:08:52.760 of the whole thing. 0:08:52.960 --> 0:08:55.160 I call it pageantry to tammy shit. I love the 0:08:55.240 --> 0:08:58.240 pageantry of like wrestling and everything like that. I love 0:08:58.360 --> 0:09:02.760 when it's like full than life, grandiose pageantry. Yeah, I 0:09:02.760 --> 0:09:03.160 do like it. 0:09:03.240 --> 0:09:06.800 And obviously I'm a very competitive person. Right, So, as 0:09:06.840 --> 0:09:10.400 someone who's very competitive who does not like to lose. 0:09:10.640 --> 0:09:12.520 If every shot that you're about to. 0:09:12.520 --> 0:09:15.040 Take and then you miss or you fail and you're 0:09:15.080 --> 0:09:17.600 like already kicking yourself and then you have a whole 0:09:17.640 --> 0:09:20.600 crowd of people booing you, you'd be pissed. 0:09:20.679 --> 0:09:21.960 I'd be pissed personally. 0:09:22.000 --> 0:09:24.280 So the fact that she was kind of giving it 0:09:24.360 --> 0:09:27.600 back to the crowd. She did a little kiss my ass. Oh, 0:09:27.679 --> 0:09:28.720 she smacked her ys. 0:09:28.960 --> 0:09:32.160 She worked fully into that heel role of being the heel. 0:09:32.320 --> 0:09:35.200 She fully like was like ha ha ha I won 0:09:35.679 --> 0:09:36.280 yea shit. 0:09:36.480 --> 0:09:38.240 And I saw when she's like me and my coach 0:09:38.320 --> 0:09:40.840 like five star resorts, so we're gonna take the prize money. 0:09:40.960 --> 0:09:43.040 That was that was funny? Did they boor when she 0:09:43.040 --> 0:09:43.439 said that? 0:09:43.600 --> 0:09:44.600 Yeah, oh big time. 0:09:44.760 --> 0:09:45.360 Yeah, I love that. 0:09:45.440 --> 0:09:48.000 But it was so good, so I was just like, yes, 0:09:48.160 --> 0:09:48.839 get it girl. 0:09:49.520 --> 0:09:51.440 Yeah, I love that she's working into it and like, 0:09:51.640 --> 0:09:52.959 actually like giving. 0:09:52.720 --> 0:09:54.480 It back, Yeah, giving it back. 0:09:54.840 --> 0:09:57.120 I mean, I think obviously there's a few people who 0:09:57.120 --> 0:10:00.280 probably don't like her because of that happening, but at 0:10:00.280 --> 0:10:03.520 the same time, it's such good entertainment for the crowd. 0:10:03.600 --> 0:10:06.520 And then I've never watched her flow tennis. The next 0:10:07.080 --> 0:10:09.640 time she played, I was like, I'm watching it. And 0:10:09.679 --> 0:10:10.280 then she last. 0:10:10.320 --> 0:10:12.440 But you know what did she did when she last? 0:10:12.480 --> 0:10:19.080 Did she just put legs? Didn a guy crack it 0:10:19.120 --> 0:10:22.000 and break the ring the ring camera, the ring camera, 0:10:22.040 --> 0:10:22.800 the net camera. 0:10:22.640 --> 0:10:23.640 The net camera. Yeah. 0:10:23.760 --> 0:10:25.520 Yeah, had got fined eighty grand? 0:10:25.960 --> 0:10:29.280 Shut up? What about the amount of money in the 0:10:29.320 --> 0:10:31.360 Australian open. It just blows my mind. 0:10:31.480 --> 0:10:36.800 Yeah, I'm going again tonight. I yeah, who with my 0:10:36.840 --> 0:10:37.679 other sister Laura. 0:10:37.720 --> 0:10:38.680 Who got your tickets? 0:10:38.720 --> 0:10:42.520 Apparol lucky. I love an aperol. 0:10:42.240 --> 0:10:44.040 Spirits, love an approll spirits. 0:10:44.040 --> 0:10:46.040 That's I think that's the one thing that I've truly 0:10:46.760 --> 0:10:52.720 truly missed during my pregnancy. Some apaol, some sashimi, a 0:10:52.760 --> 0:10:55.040 bit of pate or Pathe. 0:10:55.400 --> 0:10:57.800 Went on the other night and had the chicken pate. 0:10:58.240 --> 0:11:03.079 Oh don't that It was so good. That's like the 0:11:03.200 --> 0:11:03.880 number one thing. 0:11:04.240 --> 0:11:05.800 Well, you can't eat that when you're pregnant. I don't 0:11:05.800 --> 0:11:07.360 actually know what you can and can't eat. 0:11:07.520 --> 0:11:08.600 There's a lot you can't eat. 0:11:08.960 --> 0:11:12.280 Anyway, should we get into the episode, let's do it. 0:11:14.360 --> 0:11:17.280 I'm a huge fan of How I Met Your Mother. 0:11:17.800 --> 0:11:21.160 I finished it now, I finished it. It was anyone, 0:11:21.280 --> 0:11:24.720 no spoilers. But the end's a bit a bit lackluster. 0:11:24.960 --> 0:11:28.400 I heard that. I've never watched it, but Michael's given 0:11:28.400 --> 0:11:29.680 me the fall on one. He's a fan. 0:11:29.920 --> 0:11:32.160 He's a fan. Yeah, the end's a bit anti climax. 0:11:32.200 --> 0:11:36.720 I mean, I get it, sure, but like it was okay, 0:11:36.760 --> 0:11:38.840 but there was brought to my attention because they have 0:11:38.960 --> 0:11:42.319 like good episodes about different sort of relationships stuff, and 0:11:42.360 --> 0:11:45.120 there was one episode where they brought up the Dobbler 0:11:45.280 --> 0:11:46.080 Dharma theory. 0:11:46.400 --> 0:11:52.240 Yes they did, indeed, so obviously four people playing at 0:11:52.240 --> 0:11:55.600 home who might not be aware. Jeffrey Darma is the 0:11:55.760 --> 0:12:01.160 very notorious serial killer, and then Tommy Darbler is a 0:12:01.160 --> 0:12:05.080 fictional character from the nineteen ninety film Say Anything, which 0:12:05.320 --> 0:12:07.920 I actually haven't seen. They will put my hands up 0:12:07.960 --> 0:12:12.720 and say, but this theory that don't we're so bad 0:12:12.760 --> 0:12:17.000 at saying it. The don't blow Dharma theory is basically 0:12:17.040 --> 0:12:19.560 just about the two types of male personas that women 0:12:19.840 --> 0:12:22.960 may be attracted to, may be drawn too, and how 0:12:23.160 --> 0:12:26.920 people respond in a romantic or emotional way. 0:12:27.280 --> 0:12:29.360 Super interesting and. 0:12:30.200 --> 0:12:31.679 There was a lot more in depth than we thought. 0:12:32.240 --> 0:12:33.680 It is way more in depth. 0:12:33.960 --> 0:12:39.560 To simplify it, it's basically when someone potentially does a 0:12:39.640 --> 0:12:45.720 romantic gesture towards you, and in one scenario, you're like, 0:12:46.400 --> 0:12:50.559 that's giving me the creeps. That's an absolute no versus 0:12:51.400 --> 0:12:54.320 that's really hot. I'm really into that. And it's the 0:12:54.360 --> 0:12:56.120 same thing but different persons. 0:12:56.320 --> 0:12:59.640 So they use the example of in the movie Say Anything, 0:13:00.280 --> 0:13:03.080 he comes and holds a speaker out the window and 0:13:03.120 --> 0:13:05.760 plays like a romantic song to her. So they're saying, 0:13:05.960 --> 0:13:10.199 if she wasn't into him and didn't like him, it's creepy. 0:13:10.280 --> 0:13:14.400 It's like stalker, but because she's into him likes him, 0:13:14.440 --> 0:13:15.480 it's cute. 0:13:15.360 --> 0:13:15.600 Yeah. 0:13:15.840 --> 0:13:17.760 Have you got anything off the top of your head 0:13:18.440 --> 0:13:21.040 that makes you think that you've gone, Oh, that's creepy. 0:13:21.240 --> 0:13:22.880 I have one even relating to Michael. 0:13:23.600 --> 0:13:28.280 So, like obviously, back when I was single at her 0:13:28.840 --> 0:13:33.680 my type was like tall, tan, long hair vibe, which 0:13:33.880 --> 0:13:38.320 kind of falls into like that very musician y guy. Right, Yes, 0:13:39.480 --> 0:13:43.680 So I have had a couple of men in my 0:13:43.800 --> 0:13:47.480 time without the guitar and then starts singing to me, 0:13:47.800 --> 0:13:51.120 or that's cringing, or make me a song. 0:13:51.559 --> 0:13:55.280 It reminds me of Barbie you Ken sitting around singing. 0:13:57.640 --> 0:13:59.240 So like it can. 0:13:59.040 --> 0:14:01.400 Go one of two ways is when someone brings out 0:14:01.440 --> 0:14:06.160 a guitar, like it can be so ikey, like I'm 0:14:06.240 --> 0:14:09.280 just so grossed out. I'm like, this is never gonna 0:14:09.280 --> 0:14:12.960 work now after this moment, like I specifically remember I 0:14:13.000 --> 0:14:15.920 stayed over at this guy's house and in the morning, 0:14:16.559 --> 0:14:19.400 like we went out bining. We were seeing each other 0:14:19.440 --> 0:14:23.360 for a while in his bed and like he brought 0:14:23.360 --> 0:14:25.680 me a coffee and then he pulled out his guitar 0:14:25.760 --> 0:14:26.760 and he was singing. 0:14:26.480 --> 0:14:34.960 For like thirty minutes straight. I was like, please make 0:14:35.000 --> 0:14:35.480 this end. 0:14:35.760 --> 0:14:38.120 New songs or like had he made up on the 0:14:38.160 --> 0:14:41.080 spot actually like covers covers? 0:14:41.160 --> 0:14:43.320 Yeah, I was just like making an end, Like what 0:14:43.360 --> 0:14:47.360 am I supposed to do? I'm just sitting there like cool, what. 0:14:47.200 --> 0:14:47.640 Do you do? 0:14:47.760 --> 0:14:47.840 Like? 0:14:47.920 --> 0:14:49.320 How did he stop? How do you? 0:14:50.520 --> 0:14:53.960 I just endured it? But in saying the same thing. 0:14:55.160 --> 0:14:58.320 When me and Michael were dating, obviously, as you know, 0:14:58.760 --> 0:15:00.680 Michael's was a lead to of a band. 0:15:01.400 --> 0:15:04.480 He sung to me and it was really hot. He 0:15:04.520 --> 0:15:06.800 also didn't overdo it, like he sung one song. 0:15:09.200 --> 0:15:11.000 So well, that is literally the theory. 0:15:11.160 --> 0:15:16.120 Yes, So we have Darma, one character who's dark, troubled, 0:15:16.280 --> 0:15:20.320 dangerous in nature, who's kind of like the bad boy, 0:15:20.560 --> 0:15:22.840 you know how there's like the bad boy versus the 0:15:22.960 --> 0:15:27.400 nice boy kind of phenomenon the Dharma, even although in 0:15:27.440 --> 0:15:29.240 real life he's a serial killer, so it's taking it 0:15:29.240 --> 0:15:32.120 to a whole different level in extreme that's like the 0:15:32.200 --> 0:15:35.280 bad boy. So the guy who will pull out his 0:15:35.320 --> 0:15:38.880 guitar and it's hot because they're like naughty and a 0:15:38.880 --> 0:15:42.520 bit mysterious, whereas a Dobbler is a character who embodies 0:15:42.880 --> 0:15:47.000 the ideal of emotional openness vulnerability. 0:15:47.560 --> 0:15:52.360 He's sincere, he's kind, and he's a very you know, 0:15:52.440 --> 0:15:53.359 he's a romantic. 0:15:53.480 --> 0:15:55.040 He wants to romantic. 0:15:55.200 --> 0:16:00.000 He's emotionally available as well. You know, sometimes when we're 0:16:00.840 --> 0:16:03.960 we think we want someone emotionally available, but do we 0:16:04.040 --> 0:16:06.120 really do we want like the bad boy? 0:16:06.560 --> 0:16:08.360 Do you remember I was telling you this the other day, 0:16:08.360 --> 0:16:10.480 even though I was I've had this before. I remember. 0:16:10.560 --> 0:16:13.440 I So this was a couple of years ago. I 0:16:13.520 --> 0:16:17.080 was single, I was casually dating, and I remember I 0:16:17.200 --> 0:16:21.000 was chatting to these two girls, two different girls. Nothing 0:16:21.080 --> 0:16:22.960 not exclusive for either one of them, you know, nothing 0:16:22.960 --> 0:16:25.400 even more than just I think a couple of dates each. 0:16:26.120 --> 0:16:30.840 But one was completely emotionally cut off. Was still talking 0:16:30.880 --> 0:16:32.920 to her. Actually, you know you remember him of us? Yeah, 0:16:32.960 --> 0:16:34.760 I do remember, you remember. Yeah. I won't say the 0:16:34.800 --> 0:16:36.280 nice we have to beep it out, but you remember 0:16:36.320 --> 0:16:39.200 how one was like completely emotionally cut off, like a 0:16:39.200 --> 0:16:41.880 red flag, huge red flag. I remember, Yeah, I remember 0:16:41.920 --> 0:16:44.360 we went to that event and yeah, and the other 0:16:45.960 --> 0:16:48.040 and the other one was like nice as. 0:16:47.880 --> 0:16:49.680 Nice as girl, sweet as part. 0:16:49.840 --> 0:16:53.160 Yeah, nothing was like just and I was so more 0:16:53.160 --> 0:16:55.360 attracted to the one that was emotionally cut off. 0:16:55.600 --> 0:16:56.720 What does that say about you? 0:16:57.800 --> 0:17:01.360 But because I've never believed in that nice guy, they 0:17:01.520 --> 0:17:03.840 like always go for the bad boy. But I think 0:17:03.840 --> 0:17:05.880 that's the only time that I've been caught in that 0:17:05.960 --> 0:17:07.359 situation where I have. 0:17:07.880 --> 0:17:11.880 I mean, I think that psychologically there is a psychological 0:17:11.920 --> 0:17:15.040 reason for that, and it's the appeal of the danger 0:17:15.240 --> 0:17:18.680 of you know what's gonna happen here, Like this girl 0:17:18.720 --> 0:17:21.760 is still talking to her ex. Can I win her over? 0:17:22.080 --> 0:17:24.600 Can I fix her? Can I help her? Can I 0:17:24.600 --> 0:17:26.080 help her get away from this guy? 0:17:26.280 --> 0:17:28.359 Can I save her? 0:17:28.280 --> 0:17:32.560 Right? The complex the appeal that I think that you 0:17:32.680 --> 0:17:37.160 felt versus the person who was very emotionally available, very 0:17:37.359 --> 0:17:43.840 very kind, safe the right word. You chose the opposite, 0:17:44.400 --> 0:17:47.080 but in choose any in the end, think I dated 0:17:47.119 --> 0:17:48.680 either of them further past that point. 0:17:48.760 --> 0:17:50.520 But that was just like I remember having that conflict 0:17:50.520 --> 0:17:52.360 when we spoke about it, and I was like, why 0:17:52.359 --> 0:17:54.320 am I more attracted to the and. 0:17:54.440 --> 0:17:56.200 Like that this girl's so nice and You're like, yeah, 0:17:56.280 --> 0:18:00.919 but I like the other. Okay. 0:18:00.960 --> 0:18:04.840 So there's also celebrity couples who we can kind of 0:18:05.600 --> 0:18:09.000 look at their dynamics between them. So, for instance, we 0:18:09.160 --> 0:18:16.280 have Courtney Kardashian and Travis Barker, who both represent this edgy, dangerous, 0:18:16.480 --> 0:18:19.240 alluring type of love, kind of like living. 0:18:18.960 --> 0:18:20.879 On the edge. It's naughty. 0:18:21.359 --> 0:18:21.560 You know. 0:18:21.640 --> 0:18:23.719 When they first got together, they used to have all 0:18:23.760 --> 0:18:27.439