Speaker 1: He wasn't happy.
Speaker 2: He was not He was like ready to kiss someone
Speaker 2: else that night and break up with her in two
Speaker 2: to three business days and say, sos, this ain't working out.
Speaker 1: Where's Your Head At? Is a podcast that talks all things.
Speaker 1: Hold on a sec, let's give this a refresh. Hi.
Speaker 3: I'm Anna and I'm Matt, and we are now too
Speaker 3: newlywed not to each other. Just a female and male
Speaker 3: best friend here for the good, the bad, and the
Speaker 3: ugly times and.
Speaker 2: Exploring adulthood, family relationships, dilemmas.
Speaker 3: And whatever else we have the mental capacity to deal with.
Speaker 1: Come get the lowdown.
Speaker 3: This is your male and female perspective.
Speaker 1: So, Matt, where's your head at?
Speaker 3: So Anna, thank you for asking me where my head is?
Speaker 3: How are you today?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 2: I small?
Speaker 3: I just thought I was bringing a really good idea.
Speaker 1: You to the why do you tell people and then
Speaker 1: they can decide?
Speaker 3: So I said, I said, instead of asking me, hey,
Speaker 3: how are you? What's going on? Just ask me where
Speaker 3: my head is at?
Speaker 2: But then I said, our new intro says, so, Matt,
Speaker 2: where's your head at?
Speaker 3: And I said, I'm not going to answer, being like
Speaker 3: so much to the intro. Yeah, I'm going to answer
Speaker 3: the intro. I feel like that's a separate thing, but
Speaker 3: you should say, well, no, we do, hey, hey, yo,
Speaker 3: And then we just go, well, so where's your head at?
Speaker 3: And we get into chat guys.
Speaker 1: I'm going to leave a poll.
Speaker 2: Should we have obviously the intro is there now permanently,
Speaker 2: which says, Matt, where's your head at? And then should
Speaker 2: I then say to Matt where's your head at?
Speaker 3: No? Well you don't just go straight away where's your head? No?
Speaker 3: So you go hello and hello Matt, So where's your
Speaker 3: head at?
Speaker 1: It sucks? Sorry, mag God's sold to you that I do.
Speaker 3: I think it's something that we keep doing.
Speaker 1: And people get familiar with that puppy.
Speaker 3: Then we asked our guests where the heads are. That's
Speaker 3: how we start the conversation.
Speaker 2: People know the name of the podcast, type it in
Speaker 2: to find it.
Speaker 3: Well, this is true, Well and my head is good. Thanks,
Speaker 3: that's where my head is. That I've actually taken up
Speaker 3: reading you. Yeah, so I don't know if I listed
Speaker 3: this on the goals for twenty twenty five, but I
Speaker 3: want to read. So we went into a bookshop the
Speaker 3: other day. Yeah, the kids got some books and then
Speaker 3: I was standing around like their section, looking at books
Speaker 3: with them, and I saw Goosebumps.
Speaker 1: And I was like, old, classic, old fave.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I used to read them when I was a kid.
Speaker 3: And I just picked one up and I looked at
Speaker 3: it and I was like, no, they'd already taken off.
Speaker 3: Actually I was still reading like the blurb and looking
Speaker 3: at it, and they'd already paid and walked out, and
Speaker 3: I was like, oh fuck, I'll get this. So I
Speaker 3: ran up to the thing, got it, and then like
Speaker 3: I caught up with them, and they're like, oh what
Speaker 3: we where were you? And I was like, I've got
Speaker 3: a book I'm going to read. So I've been reading that.
Speaker 1: So it's a kid's book essentially.
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, sure, it's a kid's book, but like
Speaker 3: you got to start, I'm starting where I took off.
Speaker 3: So I quit reading for like a couple of years,
Speaker 3: So I'm going to take off where I left. My
Speaker 3: mom went to a charity shop and she brought me
Speaker 3: home like eight of them. Yeah, I got eight to read.
Speaker 3: I'm really excited.
Speaker 2: When I saw your mom the other day, she was
Speaker 2: extremely excited that you were reading.
Speaker 1: Didn't matter if it was Goosebumps, she was just like,
Speaker 1: thrilled to pieces you're reading. That's very cute.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we went to shops. We were looking for him
Speaker 3: as well. Remember that's right. Yeah, we'll go and try
Speaker 3: to find him in the shops. But my mom found
Speaker 3: him in a charity shop.
Speaker 1: Your mom was like, I can find them cheaper, and
Speaker 1: don't you worry, I've got you.
Speaker 3: But it actually had ones that you probably wouldn't find
Speaker 3: it in a shop anymore, like the older ones that
Speaker 3: when I was a kid I was reading. So it's
Speaker 3: pretty nostalgic to read them. Love it, it's fun.
Speaker 1: Love it heading back to your youth.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm going to and then I'll work up to
Speaker 3: read like more you know, adult books or more. Because
Speaker 3: I bumped into a mate when I was at a
Speaker 3: bookshop and he was like, you know, I'm getting this
Speaker 3: book and then I was like, oh, I've started trying
Speaker 3: to find Goosebumps. I'm reading Goosebumps. And he did have
Speaker 3: a little dig he was like, oh, yeah, I'm just
Speaker 3: I'm on the more adult stuff. And I was like,
Speaker 3: I was like, you saw that and said and I
Speaker 3: was like I was like, mate, like you know, like
Speaker 3: give me a break. I haven't read somewhere somewhere I
Speaker 3: haven't read. I'm not. I'm not saying I'm a professor
Speaker 3: at reading.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm on the baby books, which is not very
Speaker 1: very different spectrum to goosebumps.
Speaker 3: I read posy baby books.
Speaker 2: No, like not baby books like for babies. I mean
Speaker 2: like an adult book how to have a baby.
Speaker 3: I was just going to give you a cheek. I
Speaker 3: was just going to give you a cheat code. Then
Speaker 3: when you're reading to kids and your baby, you don't
Speaker 3: have to They don't they can't read, so you can
Speaker 3: make it up as whatever you want to do. So,
Speaker 3: like I look at the pictures sometimes and I just
Speaker 3: make my own thing off. They don't know different, they're
Speaker 3: not I think Sas one time was like you're not
Speaker 3: reading that, are you? And I was like, no, I'm
Speaker 3: making my own story off.
Speaker 2: Do you know what type of book I would imagine,
Speaker 2: because Okay, Michael sometimes reads.
Speaker 1: When I say reads, he makes.
Speaker 2: Up stories to our baby, but he makes up stories
Speaker 2: about himself.
Speaker 1: And I could just so see you doing the same thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, upon a time there was this guy and he
Speaker 1: was the lead singer in a band. He was a
Speaker 1: really cool guy. He's talking about himself.
Speaker 3: So I sort of so I don't really confuse her biography.
Speaker 3: I sort of used the pictures as what I'm trying
Speaker 3: to talk about, so it's not completely.
Speaker 1: Left your imagination.
Speaker 3: Man. I look at the pictures and it was like
Speaker 3: a duck doing something and I was just talking about
Speaker 3: what it was doing. But I was going into more
Speaker 3: details than like the four words that it says in
Speaker 3: a baby book. But yeah, there's a little cheap for
Speaker 3: you to my parenting.
Speaker 2: Okay, the Australian Open is on at the moment. We
Speaker 2: I specifically am a huge Australian Open fan. I thought
Speaker 2: you were Australian Open fan.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do. I like one. Yeah, when it's on,
Speaker 3: I won't like follow it outside throughout the year, throughout
Speaker 3: the year. So Tammy and I went the other day
Speaker 3: for we came a swear house and we went and
Speaker 3: watched it. We watched Novak Lovely, and I watched Novak
Speaker 3: again last night with my sister. I went with.
Speaker 2: Emma, Oh you went last night, so you would have
Speaker 2: seen that he did not give an interview.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what did he say? We couldn't really hear.
Speaker 2: So he basically there's a Channel nine presenter who was
Speaker 2: making fun of him and his Serbian fans. I think
Speaker 2: it was during the time of COVID. I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 3: And he's still and he's still well.
Speaker 2: I think the footage has just come I think the
Speaker 2: footage has just come back out. He's seen this for
Speaker 2: the first time and he is not happy. So he
Speaker 2: is putting his foot down, and he said that he's
Speaker 2: not giving any more interviews with Channel nine until he
Speaker 2: receives a formal apology from either the journalist who is
Speaker 2: the one mocking him.
Speaker 3: Is this Chompers Tony Jones, Yeah, Chompers, And he's like
Speaker 3: and he's saying Novak sucks or something to them when
Speaker 3: they're chancing.
Speaker 1: I saw that, Yeah, it was something along those lines.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So he is like not happy, so he's like fully
Speaker 1: putting his foot down. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think he has a bit of resentment towards Melbourne
Speaker 2: for how he was treated during COVID. He's not happy
Speaker 2: about it still, and I think this is kind of
Speaker 2: like he's got like a little bone to pick and
Speaker 2: this is where he's taking out his frustrations. Anyway, I
Speaker 2: guess it's gonna unfold throughout the week and we'll see
Speaker 2: what happens.
Speaker 1: We'll see if he gives another interview, if he sticks
Speaker 1: to his word, if.
Speaker 2: Channel nine's gonna cave in, give an apology, who knows
Speaker 2: what's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: But I'm excited.
Speaker 2: I love the stories in between the Australian Open. I
Speaker 2: think that's what I live for when it comes to
Speaker 2: the Ossie Open.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't get that invested in it. I mean
Speaker 3: I like to watch tennis. I enjoy. You're fully invested. Well,
Speaker 3: I were talking him before about that tennis player.
Speaker 1: The girl, Daniel Collins.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and how I saw that. My sister showed me
Speaker 3: how she had some stuff to say to the fans
Speaker 3: that were billing her.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: She's definitely caused a stir and some controversy. She yeah,
Speaker 2: was getting booed, as a lot of people who reversing
Speaker 2: Australians do, because the crowd definitely has.
Speaker 3: Do you agree with booing?
Speaker 1: I mean it's a bit of entertainment.
Speaker 3: I obviously grew up and like still love wrestling, So
Speaker 3: you boo the bad guy? Yeah, But I think in
Speaker 3: real life competition, when they're real people, they're not portraying
Speaker 3: a character. I don't think you should boo I don't
Speaker 3: think so. I understand American football games and that they
Speaker 3: will make noise so they can't hear like calls from
Speaker 3: like the players, so they can't play properly. So they
Speaker 3: make a lot of noise so they can't hear when
Speaker 3: they call plays. Now I agree with that. That's but
Speaker 3: they're not booing. They're just making noise. But I don't
Speaker 3: think you should boo real people that are athletes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, look quite, I've quite enjoyed this situation. I obviously
Speaker 2: don't agree with booing, but I do love the theater
Speaker 2: of the whole thing.
Speaker 3: I call it pageantry to tammy shit. I love the
Speaker 3: pageantry of like wrestling and everything like that. I love
Speaker 3: when it's like full than life, grandiose pageantry. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: do like it.
Speaker 2: And obviously I'm a very competitive person. Right, So, as
Speaker 2: someone who's very competitive who does not like to lose.
Speaker 1: If every shot that you're about to.
Speaker 2: Take and then you miss or you fail and you're
Speaker 2: like already kicking yourself and then you have a whole
Speaker 2: crowd of people booing you, you'd be pissed.
Speaker 1: I'd be pissed personally.
Speaker 2: So the fact that she was kind of giving it
Speaker 2: back to the crowd. She did a little kiss my ass. Oh,
Speaker 2: she smacked her ys.
Speaker 3: She worked fully into that heel role of being the heel.
Speaker 1: She fully like was like ha ha ha I won
Speaker 1: yea shit.
Speaker 3: And I saw when she's like me and my coach
Speaker 3: like five star resorts, so we're gonna take the prize money.
Speaker 3: That was that was funny? Did they boor when she
Speaker 3: said that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh big time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 1: But it was so good, so I was just like, yes,
Speaker 1: get it girl.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that she's working into it and like,
Speaker 3: actually like giving.
Speaker 1: It back, Yeah, giving it back.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think obviously there's a few people who
Speaker 2: probably don't like her because of that happening, but at
Speaker 2: the same time, it's such good entertainment for the crowd.
Speaker 2: And then I've never watched her flow tennis. The next
Speaker 2: time she played, I was like, I'm watching it. And
Speaker 2: then she last.
Speaker 3: But you know what did she did when she last?
Speaker 3: Did she just put legs? Didn a guy crack it
Speaker 3: and break the ring the ring camera, the ring camera,
Speaker 3: the net camera.
Speaker 1: The net camera. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, had got fined eighty grand?
Speaker 1: Shut up? What about the amount of money in the
Speaker 1: Australian open. It just blows my mind.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going again tonight. I yeah, who with my
Speaker 3: other sister Laura.
Speaker 1: Who got your tickets?
Speaker 3: Apparol lucky. I love an aperol.
Speaker 1: Spirits, love an approll spirits.
Speaker 2: That's I think that's the one thing that I've truly
Speaker 2: truly missed during my pregnancy. Some apaol, some sashimi, a
Speaker 2: bit of pate or Pathe.
Speaker 3: Went on the other night and had the chicken pate.
Speaker 1: Oh don't that It was so good. That's like the
Speaker 1: number one thing.
Speaker 3: Well, you can't eat that when you're pregnant. I don't
Speaker 3: actually know what you can and can't eat.
Speaker 1: There's a lot you can't eat.
Speaker 2: Anyway, should we get into the episode, let's do it.
Speaker 3: I'm a huge fan of How I Met Your Mother.
Speaker 3: I finished it now, I finished it. It was anyone,
Speaker 3: no spoilers. But the end's a bit a bit lackluster.
Speaker 1: I heard that. I've never watched it, but Michael's given
Speaker 1: me the fall on one. He's a fan.
Speaker 3: He's a fan. Yeah, the end's a bit anti climax.
Speaker 3: I mean, I get it, sure, but like it was okay,
Speaker 3: but there was brought to my attention because they have
Speaker 3: like good episodes about different sort of relationships stuff, and
Speaker 3: there was one episode where they brought up the Dobbler
Speaker 3: Dharma theory.
Speaker 2: Yes they did, indeed, so obviously four people playing at
Speaker 2: home who might not be aware. Jeffrey Darma is the
Speaker 2: very notorious serial killer, and then Tommy Darbler is a
Speaker 2: fictional character from the nineteen ninety film Say Anything, which
Speaker 2: I actually haven't seen. They will put my hands up
Speaker 2: and say, but this theory that don't we're so bad
Speaker 2: at saying it. The don't blow Dharma theory is basically
Speaker 2: just about the two types of male personas that women
Speaker 2: may be attracted to, may be drawn too, and how
Speaker 2: people respond in a romantic or emotional way.
Speaker 1: Super interesting and.
Speaker 3: There was a lot more in depth than we thought.
Speaker 1: It is way more in depth.
Speaker 2: To simplify it, it's basically when someone potentially does a
Speaker 2: romantic gesture towards you, and in one scenario, you're like,
Speaker 2: that's giving me the creeps. That's an absolute no versus
Speaker 2: that's really hot. I'm really into that. And it's the
Speaker 2: same thing but different persons.
Speaker 3: So they use the example of in the movie Say Anything,
Speaker 3: he comes and holds a speaker out the window and
Speaker 3: plays like a romantic song to her. So they're saying,
Speaker 3: if she wasn't into him and didn't like him, it's creepy.
Speaker 3: It's like stalker, but because she's into him likes him,
Speaker 3: it's cute.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Have you got anything off the top of your head
Speaker 3: that makes you think that you've gone, Oh, that's creepy.
Speaker 1: I have one even relating to Michael.
Speaker 2: So, like obviously, back when I was single at her
Speaker 2: my type was like tall, tan, long hair vibe, which
Speaker 2: kind of falls into like that very musician y guy. Right, Yes,
Speaker 2: So I have had a couple of men in my
Speaker 2: time without the guitar and then starts singing to me,
Speaker 2: or that's cringing, or make me a song.
Speaker 3: It reminds me of Barbie you Ken sitting around singing.
Speaker 1: So like it can.
Speaker 2: Go one of two ways is when someone brings out
Speaker 2: a guitar, like it can be so ikey, like I'm
Speaker 2: just so grossed out. I'm like, this is never gonna
Speaker 2: work now after this moment, like I specifically remember I
Speaker 2: stayed over at this guy's house and in the morning,
Speaker 2: like we went out bining. We were seeing each other
Speaker 2: for a while in his bed and like he brought
Speaker 2: me a coffee and then he pulled out his guitar
Speaker 2: and he was singing.
Speaker 1: For like thirty minutes straight. I was like, please make
Speaker 1: this end.
Speaker 3: New songs or like had he made up on the
Speaker 3: spot actually like covers covers?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was just like making an end, Like what
Speaker 2: am I supposed to do? I'm just sitting there like cool, what.
Speaker 3: Do you do?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 3: How did he stop? How do you?
Speaker 1: I just endured it? But in saying the same thing.
Speaker 2: When me and Michael were dating, obviously, as you know,
Speaker 2: Michael's was a lead to of a band.
Speaker 1: He sung to me and it was really hot. He
Speaker 1: also didn't overdo it, like he sung one song.
Speaker 3: So well, that is literally the theory.
Speaker 2: Yes, So we have Darma, one character who's dark, troubled,
Speaker 2: dangerous in nature, who's kind of like the bad boy,
Speaker 2: you know how there's like the bad boy versus the
Speaker 2: nice boy kind of phenomenon the Dharma, even although in
Speaker 2: real life he's a serial killer, so it's taking it
Speaker 2: to a whole different level in extreme that's like the
Speaker 2: bad boy. So the guy who will pull out his
Speaker 2: guitar and it's hot because they're like naughty and a
Speaker 2: bit mysterious, whereas a Dobbler is a character who embodies
Speaker 2: the ideal of emotional openness vulnerability.
Speaker 1: He's sincere, he's kind, and he's a very you know,
Speaker 1: he's a romantic.
Speaker 3: He wants to romantic.
Speaker 1: He's emotionally available as well. You know, sometimes when we're
Speaker 1: we think we want someone emotionally available, but do we
Speaker 1: really do we want like the bad boy?
Speaker 3: Do you remember I was telling you this the other day,
Speaker 3: even though I was I've had this before. I remember.
Speaker 3: I So this was a couple of years ago. I
Speaker 3: was single, I was casually dating, and I remember I
Speaker 3: was chatting to these two girls, two different girls. Nothing
Speaker 3: not exclusive for either one of them, you know, nothing
Speaker 3: even more than just I think a couple of dates each.
Speaker 3: But one was completely emotionally cut off. Was still talking
Speaker 3: to her. Actually, you know you remember him of us? Yeah,
Speaker 3: I do remember, you remember. Yeah. I won't say the
Speaker 3: nice we have to beep it out, but you remember
Speaker 3: how one was like completely emotionally cut off, like a
Speaker 3: red flag, huge red flag. I remember, Yeah, I remember
Speaker 3: we went to that event and yeah, and the other
Speaker 3: and the other one was like nice as.
Speaker 1: Nice as girl, sweet as part.
Speaker 3: Yeah, nothing was like just and I was so more
Speaker 3: attracted to the one that was emotionally cut off.
Speaker 1: What does that say about you?
Speaker 3: But because I've never believed in that nice guy, they
Speaker 3: like always go for the bad boy. But I think
Speaker 3: that's the only time that I've been caught in that
Speaker 3: situation where I have.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think that psychologically there is a psychological
Speaker 2: reason for that, and it's the appeal of the danger
Speaker 2: of you know what's gonna happen here, Like this girl
Speaker 2: is still talking to her ex. Can I win her over?
Speaker 2: Can I fix her? Can I help her? Can I
Speaker 2: help her get away from this guy?
Speaker 1: Can I save her?
Speaker 2: Right? The complex the appeal that I think that you
Speaker 2: felt versus the person who was very emotionally available, very
Speaker 2: very kind, safe the right word. You chose the opposite,
Speaker 2: but in choose any in the end, think I dated
Speaker 2: either of them further past that point.
Speaker 3: But that was just like I remember having that conflict
Speaker 3: when we spoke about it, and I was like, why
Speaker 3: am I more attracted to the and.
Speaker 1: Like that this girl's so nice and You're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: but I like the other. Okay.
Speaker 2: So there's also celebrity couples who we can kind of
Speaker 2: look at their dynamics between them. So, for instance, we
Speaker 2: have Courtney Kardashian and Travis Barker, who both represent this edgy, dangerous,
Speaker 2: alluring type of love, kind of like living.
Speaker 1: On the edge. It's naughty.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: When they first got together, they used to have all
Speaker 2: those photos with their tongues out, like touching tongues and
Speaker 2: like it was just like naughty versus you're Beyonce and
Speaker 2: jay Z, which is like that idealized type of love connection.
Speaker 2: It's kind of like what love is supposed to look like,
Speaker 2: and everything goes smooth and happy and rainbows and fairies.
Speaker 3: But isn't he canceled now in the whole what do
Speaker 3: you call it? The whole?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean just for the sake of me
Speaker 2: explaining it, expining.
Speaker 3: It for people to think, I like the whole Courtney
Speaker 3: and Travis sort of set up though that whole looking faces.
Speaker 3: Didn't they do the blood vile thing as well.
Speaker 1: I think it's about like.
Speaker 2: The naughtiness of it, you know, like the dangerous aspect
Speaker 2: of it. It's not like, you know, the typical nuclear
Speaker 2: family love. It's like this blended family with you know,
Speaker 2: older siblings and a new baby, and like it's just
Speaker 2: kind of like this new age.
Speaker 3: From what I've seen on TikTok, they look very in
Speaker 3: love and very good for each other. I'm not would
Speaker 3: Scott be like the dorma then in this situation the
Speaker 3: like the dama sorry, like the bad like they're not
Speaker 3: good option, and then he's the dolba.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know, because I guess in some ways
Speaker 2: this Courtney and Scott together were like that romanticized perfect couple,
Speaker 2: and then Courtney and Travis are more of like the
Speaker 2: dangerous naughty couple.
Speaker 1: But I mean you can kind of fight it both.
Speaker 3: Ways perception of what's what?
Speaker 1: I guess, Yes, So anyway.
Speaker 2: Other examples that we come across are as we've said,
Speaker 2: the bad boy vers nice guy, the toxic verse stable,
Speaker 2: the fixer versus the soulmate, the rebound versus the real thing,
Speaker 2: and the excitement versus the comfort dynamic.
Speaker 1: Super interesting theory.
Speaker 2: Have you ever been in a situation where someone has
Speaker 2: done a really nice gesture for you and maybe in
Speaker 2: one scenario you found it really romantic, in others you
Speaker 2: found it really gross and icky.
Speaker 3: Ah, I can't think of one off the top of
Speaker 3: my head where I've done it, no, where I've had
Speaker 3: someone do it for me. I remember one time, I
Speaker 3: think I said this on the podcast before I was
Speaker 3: seeing this girl and it's this was years ago, and
Speaker 3: she didn't. I can't remember. Something happened, and I think
Speaker 3: we just ended. We went in our own ways, and
Speaker 3: I remember I was like with my mate and I
Speaker 3: was like, I'm gonna buy it. I'm gonna give her flowers.
Speaker 3: And I was like, but I know that she Di
Speaker 3: wouldn't want flowers, like she'd more appreciate a plant flower,
Speaker 3: you know, like a plant, a plant. Yeah, that's so
Speaker 3: the flowers, because I remember a conversation saying like flowers die,
Speaker 3: yeah yah yah. And I was like, I don't think
Speaker 3: she wants to see me though, Like we've ended it.
Speaker 3: I was like, how about you go knock on the
Speaker 3: door and give her the flowers and just say them yeah.
Speaker 3: So I was standing behind like the pillar of the
Speaker 3: gate at the front, and he walks up and he goes, oh,
Speaker 3: these are from Matt, and she goes thanks, and she goes,
Speaker 3: is he here? And then I remember Mate just looked
Speaker 3: around and looked at me, and I was like and
Speaker 3: then she was like thanks Matt, and then like we
Speaker 3: walked away. I think she got the I think she
Speaker 3: got the because I thought it was getting more romantic
Speaker 3: than that, But no, it wasn't. But have you seen
Speaker 3: the TikTok of the girl rocking up to the New's
Speaker 3: Eve party?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that broke my heart. That was really sad.
Speaker 2: We'll link this on our Facebook if you haven't seen it.
Speaker 2: But basically, this girl's supposed to be working on New
Speaker 2: Ye's e and this guy's like at a New Year's
Speaker 2: Eve party with all of his friends, and she surprises
Speaker 2: and he's like so excited to surprise him. She even
Speaker 2: gets people to film it to get his reaction, and
Speaker 2: he is visually devastated.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 3: I don't know, because you don't know what to believe
Speaker 3: online and that, but apparently I had been dating that long.
Speaker 3: It was only like two weeks or something, so it
Speaker 3: was quite sticky.
Speaker 1: You said that, though I don't know if you would believe.
Speaker 3: That came from a libel source.
Speaker 1: Re liable or reliable.
Speaker 3: Reliable sorry, reliable source. I think it was Tammy she
Speaker 3: read it.
Speaker 2: I mean the thing is, I feel like we've been
Speaker 2: posting on TikTok like surprising my boyfriend for news eve,
Speaker 2: which she did.
Speaker 3: She definitely surprised him, though she looked shook.
Speaker 1: He wasn't happy.
Speaker 2: He was not He was like ready to kiss someone
Speaker 2: else that night and break up with her in two
Speaker 2: to three business days and say, sos, this ain't working out.
Speaker 3: Have we heard from him since?
Speaker 2: No. She deleted it, which made me feel so bad
Speaker 2: for her because it was going so viral, but people
Speaker 2: had screened recorded it and then were like reposting.
Speaker 1: On their own accounts.
Speaker 2: But I was, God, that sucks, like, imagine you post
Speaker 2: this video thinking this is so cute, this is so
Speaker 2: romantic of me, Like I've done this really nice gesture
Speaker 2: for my boyfriend. Even if he is a two week
Speaker 2: old boyfriend, they're still boyfriend and girlfriend. And then everyone
Speaker 2: in the comments is like, sorry, this guy doesn't like you,
Speaker 2: and then you're thinking about, well does he like me?
Speaker 2: And then she's gone to the lengths where it's gone
Speaker 2: so viral that she's like, I want this gone, I
Speaker 2: want this deleted, like get this off, and then it
Speaker 2: goes even more viral because everyone screen.
Speaker 3: Recorded unpopular opinion, go for it. She should have the
Speaker 3: self awareness not to post that video and see that
Speaker 3: it was not Yeah, his reaction. She should have enough
Speaker 3: self awareness.
Speaker 1: No one has enough self awareness. Do you know why?
Speaker 2: Because people in relationships have rose colored glasses on, and
Speaker 2: you can have a thousand people tell you that someone's
Speaker 2: not that into you or treating you poorly or not
Speaker 2: right for you, and until you can personally see it,
Speaker 2: or until someone literally takes those rodes colored glasses off
Speaker 2: you and gives you real life twenty twenty vision, that person's.
Speaker 1: Never going to see it.
Speaker 3: Do you have a scenario then, Anna, I do so.
Speaker 2: Basically, when I was in year eleven at school, there
Speaker 2: was this guy and he would just stare at me
Speaker 2: in the hallways, but we had never really spoke. And
Speaker 2: then I think he kind of was like would say
Speaker 2: I think he then got up the courage to say hi, Anna.
Speaker 1: In hindsight, this makes me feel really guilty and really bad.
Speaker 2: He would say hi, Anna, and I'd say hi, and
Speaker 2: that was it, and then like I didn't think about
Speaker 2: it again anyway. It was Valentine's Day at school, yeah nice,
Speaker 2: and I was walking down the hallway. We had like
Speaker 2: this big hallway that when classes would change over, Like
Speaker 2: basically you'd have to take this huge hallway to get.
Speaker 1: To your next class.
Speaker 2: Anyway, I was walking with like my book books, and
Speaker 2: then he gave me this box. It was a heart
Speaker 2: shaped red box and he just said hi Anna, gave
Speaker 2: it to me, said Happy Valentine's Day, and I like
Speaker 2: was like thanks, and like, I like had never spoken
Speaker 2: to this guy. Yeah, and because he used to stir
Speaker 2: at me, I think I was a little bit creeped
Speaker 2: out by him. And then he would say hi Anna,
Speaker 2: and I was like, oh, he's a nice guy. But
Speaker 2: then he gave me the heart box and then I
Speaker 2: was like, oh, like I don't really know him, and
Speaker 2: I was young, and I was just like thank you. Anyway,
Speaker 2: I took it to my locker and I had like
Speaker 2: a couple of friends with me, and we opened it
Speaker 2: together and he had written me a poem.
Speaker 1: No, it's really sweet. In hindsight, I think it's really sweet.
Speaker 2: And he had sprayed his cologne on on the letter,
Speaker 2: I know, and he'd obviously taken rose petals and pulled
Speaker 2: them off of roses and put them rose pedals and
Speaker 2: put little chocolate loves.
Speaker 1: And I think there was like a heady or something
Speaker 1: in there.
Speaker 3: I can't go, he's so romantic. What do you reckon
Speaker 3: he's doing right now?
Speaker 1: It was so he's actually married, but.
Speaker 3: I bet you he's doing that for his wife now.
Speaker 2: Probably and she's probably like, Wow, what a guy, and
Speaker 2: he is like that is.
Speaker 1: So nice time. At the time, I can't.
Speaker 2: Say it didn't creep me out because I hadn't had
Speaker 2: a conversation with him, and I was like, he doesn't
Speaker 2: even know me.
Speaker 1: This is creepy. I'm scared anyway, but that I do
Speaker 1: feel bad about that saying this out loud now I
Speaker 1: do feel bad about it. But at the time he
Speaker 1: creeped me out.
Speaker 3: I can see how that could creep you out. But
Speaker 3: if you were attracted to him or you thought he
Speaker 3: was cute, if he did that, that would have been
Speaker 3: a really cute gesture.
Speaker 1: This is a thing.
Speaker 2: He was a good looking guy. Like he wasn't a
Speaker 2: bad looking guy. He was he was very good looking.
Speaker 3: But do you just want attracted to him so well?
Speaker 2: I'd never spoken to him, and like this staring thing
Speaker 2: kind of creeped me out, and like, yeah, it was giving.
Speaker 1: More like the creepy he had no riz. I just
Speaker 1: wasn't emotionally open to it.
Speaker 3: You know, Yeah, I know what you're trying to say.
Speaker 1: It might not have had any risks.
Speaker 3: He had no rias. He just stared at you and
Speaker 3: thought that was going to work and it just got
Speaker 3: him nowhere.
Speaker 2: So anyway, the point is is that if you're going
Speaker 2: to do a romantic gesture, it might not drop the
Speaker 2: way you think it's going to drop. And it has
Speaker 2: nothing to do with you.
Speaker 3: No, it just has the other person and what they
Speaker 3: feel towards you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, how if they're attracted to you or if they're
Speaker 1: not attracted to you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because it could happen to someone else. You could
Speaker 3: do the exact same thing to someone else and they
Speaker 3: can think it's the most romantic thing in the world.
Speaker 3: But they are attracted to you. So if they're not,
Speaker 3: don't take it personally. We'll take a person because they're
Speaker 3: not attracted to you, but don't take it so heavily,
Speaker 3: is what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 2: And in saying that, Valentine's Day is right around the corner,
Speaker 2: so we need to start planning Valentine's Day surprise field.
Speaker 3: Well, I was going to ask people if they have
Speaker 3: anything that has happened to them like this, Yes, please
Speaker 3: please send.
Speaker 2: It our way, send us a voicemail. We want to
Speaker 2: love to react to them.
Speaker 3: We want to hear. It could be as simple as
Speaker 3: that someone gave you something back at school and just
Speaker 3: didn't land the way they thought it would. Or it
Speaker 3: could be anything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, Matt, Until next time, Bye bye