1 00:00:05,921 --> 00:00:07,281 Speaker 1: Apoge Production. 2 00:00:10,921 --> 00:00:13,921 Speaker 2: I'm Mickey Fisher and welcome to the Village Crazy Lady. 3 00:00:14,321 --> 00:00:17,441 Speaker 2: People are talking to me and they are not physically 4 00:00:17,481 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 2: in this room, so just strap in for that. Can't 5 00:00:21,201 --> 00:00:23,921 Speaker 2: call me crazy, so I said it first. Whoever's trying 6 00:00:23,921 --> 00:00:26,121 Speaker 2: to come through, whatever messages need to come through, like, 7 00:00:26,241 --> 00:00:26,761 Speaker 2: just bring it on. 8 00:00:26,841 --> 00:00:27,361 Speaker 3: Let's do it. 9 00:00:28,201 --> 00:00:35,281 Speaker 2: Crazy Crazy Crazy The Village Crazy Lay Podcast. Hey Gordeous Legends, 10 00:00:35,281 --> 00:00:37,200 Speaker 2: and welcome to another episode of the. 11 00:00:37,241 --> 00:00:38,481 Speaker 3: Village Crazy Lady. 12 00:00:39,081 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 2: Last episode, I was talking to Sheridan Austin and we 13 00:00:41,961 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 2: were talking all about food and intuition, and because we 14 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:48,081 Speaker 2: spoke so much, we really needed to break it up 15 00:00:48,081 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 2: into two episodes. So we're just about to kick it 16 00:00:50,801 --> 00:00:54,601 Speaker 2: off into Sheridan's about to tell us her story, why 17 00:00:54,721 --> 00:00:57,721 Speaker 2: she got into what she's doing, and everything she went 18 00:00:57,801 --> 00:00:59,361 Speaker 2: through to get to where she is now. 19 00:01:00,361 --> 00:01:04,601 Speaker 4: So when I remember this pivotal time in my life, 20 00:01:05,361 --> 00:01:07,521 Speaker 4: it's gonna it sounds like it's gonna be really like 21 00:01:08,241 --> 00:01:12,281 Speaker 4: such an amazing story. However, what happened was I had 22 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:15,681 Speaker 4: this moment of realizing, Wow, I should be eating fats. 23 00:01:15,721 --> 00:01:18,681 Speaker 4: They're actually really good for me, and saturated fats perfect 24 00:01:18,681 --> 00:01:19,441 Speaker 4: fine toss. 25 00:01:19,241 --> 00:01:21,881 Speaker 1: The Margarine, get rid of it, get rid of your 26 00:01:21,961 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 1: vegetable oils. 27 00:01:22,881 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 4: Once I realized this, I went and bought pork crackle, 28 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:28,801 Speaker 4: a couple of rhines, like just the pork crackle. 29 00:01:28,961 --> 00:01:32,641 Speaker 1: Crapple crapple pork crackle, Ryan. 30 00:01:32,521 --> 00:01:33,121 Speaker 3: So you can do that. 31 00:01:33,161 --> 00:01:34,801 Speaker 2: You can go to your butcher, you can just ask 32 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 2: for that. And I know you're not a big pork person, 33 00:01:37,081 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 2: so yeah, not if you're me, but if you're if 34 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:42,161 Speaker 2: you're a if you're a pig eater, if you're a 35 00:01:42,721 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 2: do you eat bacon, Yeah, it has to be super 36 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:46,441 Speaker 2: doo dooper crispy. 37 00:01:46,481 --> 00:01:48,561 Speaker 3: But I like bacon now. But that took me a. 38 00:01:48,521 --> 00:01:50,641 Speaker 2: Lot time crackle because that's super dup crispy. 39 00:01:51,801 --> 00:01:53,921 Speaker 3: I don't know. Pork to me smells too picky. 40 00:01:54,081 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 2: Oh okay, yeah, but we're moving past, you know, rules 41 00:01:57,681 --> 00:01:59,641 Speaker 2: and things like that, so well, it's not a rule, darling. 42 00:01:59,681 --> 00:02:02,761 Speaker 2: If that's your intuition, like, that's okay, Well that's true, 43 00:02:02,761 --> 00:02:06,401 Speaker 2: it is my my intuition, like it's not to pork. Really, yeah, 44 00:02:06,441 --> 00:02:09,681 Speaker 2: that is absolutely fine, gorgeous, Okay, as long as you're 45 00:02:09,721 --> 00:02:14,441 Speaker 2: not listening to noise me and trying to force you 46 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,161 Speaker 2: to eat pork. Okay, you're not like how I tried 47 00:02:17,201 --> 00:02:20,281 Speaker 2: to eat patai and I was like, Sheridan, I cannot 48 00:02:20,281 --> 00:02:20,881 Speaker 2: eat this ship. 49 00:02:21,161 --> 00:02:24,881 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, well you do need this ne's forage. 50 00:02:27,601 --> 00:02:27,881 Speaker 2: Again. 51 00:02:28,401 --> 00:02:33,801 Speaker 4: So anyway, I like sat there with two rinds of 52 00:02:33,841 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 4: pork crackle. They're quite large, and I demolished it. So 53 00:02:39,321 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 4: they're not young for me, for you, for me demolished. 54 00:02:43,321 --> 00:02:45,481 Speaker 2: And I remember so clearly sitting there looking at my 55 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:47,961 Speaker 2: partner going like are you finished? Like why aren't you 56 00:02:48,041 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 2: eating anymore? 57 00:02:49,121 --> 00:02:54,201 Speaker 4: But it's because my hormones, my gut, my brain was 58 00:02:54,721 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 4: screaming at me, and my partner at the time probably 59 00:02:57,081 --> 00:03:00,001 Speaker 4: hadn't been going or thinking like oh I shouldn't eat 60 00:03:00,081 --> 00:03:03,081 Speaker 4: too much fat, and probably wasn't avoiding as much as 61 00:03:03,121 --> 00:03:03,881 Speaker 4: what I was. 62 00:03:03,881 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 2: At that time in my life. So my body was screaming. 63 00:03:08,161 --> 00:03:10,761 Speaker 4: So now you put a you know, a couple of 64 00:03:10,841 --> 00:03:12,361 Speaker 4: rides of port krackline from me, I'm just gonna have 65 00:03:12,401 --> 00:03:14,601 Speaker 4: a few pieces, like I'm good, I'm done. You don't 66 00:03:14,601 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 4: need a whole pick exactly, because my body is sufficed 67 00:03:17,761 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 4: like I'm eating it throughout my life always, like all 68 00:03:21,601 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 4: the different types and varieties of fats, right, so, and 69 00:03:26,841 --> 00:03:30,161 Speaker 4: the thing is is with what comes with intuition is 70 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:34,441 Speaker 4: the particular nutrients that you're receiving from the food, which 71 00:03:34,481 --> 00:03:38,281 Speaker 4: is really critical. So we really need fats for our brain, 72 00:03:38,321 --> 00:03:41,961 Speaker 4: We really need fats for our hormones. And so many 73 00:03:41,961 --> 00:03:45,881 Speaker 4: people have, you know, hormdal imbalances these days, whether it 74 00:03:45,921 --> 00:03:49,881 Speaker 4: be mentally or showing up in your menstrual cycle or 75 00:03:49,921 --> 00:03:54,201 Speaker 4: your skin, or other nutrient deficiencies which are like showing 76 00:03:54,281 --> 00:03:57,041 Speaker 4: up in also different ways, like vitamin D, vitamin K, 77 00:03:57,641 --> 00:04:00,441 Speaker 4: you know, not very good mineralization of your teeth because 78 00:04:00,441 --> 00:04:02,401 Speaker 4: we need K vitamin K for that, which is a 79 00:04:02,441 --> 00:04:09,761 Speaker 4: fat soluble vitamin cetera, et cetera. So that's your body communicating. However, 80 00:04:10,041 --> 00:04:15,761 Speaker 4: there's a big however here, because when we have all 81 00:04:15,961 --> 00:04:19,561 Speaker 4: foods available to us these days, and it's not living 82 00:04:19,561 --> 00:04:23,761 Speaker 4: off a field, we are exposed to so many other 83 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:27,521 Speaker 4: foods that maybe we should think twice about and not 84 00:04:27,801 --> 00:04:32,361 Speaker 4: necessarily go is this a craving or is it true intuition. 85 00:04:32,761 --> 00:04:36,561 Speaker 4: Intuition still does tell you probably shouldn't be eating seven 86 00:04:36,641 --> 00:04:42,161 Speaker 4: donuts like really, However, so there's a difference between craving 87 00:04:42,201 --> 00:04:49,121 Speaker 4: and intuition because sometimes people have really bad imbalances in 88 00:04:49,161 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 4: their gut where they might have overgrowths where it whether 89 00:04:52,801 --> 00:04:58,001 Speaker 4: it be yeast overgrowth or parasite overgrowth or bacterial overgrowth. 90 00:04:58,401 --> 00:05:02,921 Speaker 4: Communicating with your brain via your vegas nerves, sending little postcodes, postcodes, 91 00:05:03,081 --> 00:05:06,721 Speaker 4: postcards up there going hate, Can you please eat that 92 00:05:07,041 --> 00:05:12,641 Speaker 4: very easily accessible glucose in that doughnut right now? So 93 00:05:12,721 --> 00:05:18,041 Speaker 4: I can be fed real quick and then reproduced rapidly. However, 94 00:05:18,121 --> 00:05:20,481 Speaker 4: we do need to kind of draw the line there 95 00:05:20,521 --> 00:05:23,721 Speaker 4: and go, hey, mate, I am bigger than you, a 96 00:05:23,761 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 4: bugger in my gut, and I'm going to have to 97 00:05:27,121 --> 00:05:32,401 Speaker 4: really listen to my deep intuition there and override that craving. 98 00:05:33,001 --> 00:05:36,281 Speaker 4: So that goes the same with gluten. So for example, 99 00:05:36,841 --> 00:05:41,401 Speaker 4: there is people do suffer gluten addiction or wheat addictions 100 00:05:41,801 --> 00:05:47,841 Speaker 4: because it creates this morphine effect it's called gluciomorphines that 101 00:05:48,361 --> 00:05:53,201 Speaker 4: we can be experiencing when we are consuming these sorts 102 00:05:53,241 --> 00:05:55,721 Speaker 4: of things. So it's creating this like addictive kind of 103 00:05:55,801 --> 00:05:59,841 Speaker 4: like calm. It creates like a calm state and like, ah, 104 00:05:59,841 --> 00:06:01,481 Speaker 4: I've got my fixed state. 105 00:06:02,521 --> 00:06:06,601 Speaker 2: So like having a path of a joint for something, Yeah, you're. 106 00:06:06,481 --> 00:06:09,121 Speaker 4: Kind of more I'd say more like a cocaine, like 107 00:06:09,161 --> 00:06:13,881 Speaker 4: a dopamine like LYFT, but it doesn't last a long time, 108 00:06:13,961 --> 00:06:16,081 Speaker 4: so then you want more, and then you want more, 109 00:06:16,121 --> 00:06:18,721 Speaker 4: and then you want more. So then when so that 110 00:06:18,961 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 4: same thing with sugar, So sugar and things like gluten 111 00:06:23,001 --> 00:06:25,241 Speaker 4: and of course like MSG which is in processed foods. 112 00:06:25,241 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 4: It makes me more and more and more with that 113 00:06:27,961 --> 00:06:31,801 Speaker 4: kind of stuff. It's really helpful to have knowledge. We 114 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:37,121 Speaker 4: need to pair intuition, culture and tradition and knowledge because 115 00:06:37,121 --> 00:06:40,921 Speaker 4: we're in this weird, fed up world now where there's 116 00:06:40,961 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 4: a lot of things that we haven't previously been exposed to. 117 00:06:44,041 --> 00:06:48,121 Speaker 4: And this is why when someone says eat everything in balance, 118 00:06:48,201 --> 00:06:51,441 Speaker 4: for some people that can be really challenging on their 119 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:54,321 Speaker 4: health but also their mental state because then they're battling 120 00:06:54,601 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 4: this addiction constantly, which is frustrating. 121 00:06:57,961 --> 00:06:58,881 Speaker 1: I have been there. 122 00:06:58,921 --> 00:07:03,681 Speaker 4: I have suffered serious addictions to sugar and wheat. Where 123 00:07:03,681 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 4: it can sit there and eat cheese and bacon, cheese 124 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 4: and bacon rolls, yes, yeah, phenomenal. 125 00:07:08,601 --> 00:07:10,001 Speaker 2: Yeah. I used to be a slut for those and 126 00:07:10,041 --> 00:07:13,721 Speaker 2: I didn't even eat bacon. To pick the bacon, yeah, 127 00:07:13,721 --> 00:07:15,321 Speaker 2: I literally I used to pick the bacon off. 128 00:07:15,321 --> 00:07:17,081 Speaker 1: Because you were a lot player based and stuff. 129 00:07:17,121 --> 00:07:19,881 Speaker 2: Right, Well, yeah, well I just didn't. I never, even 130 00:07:19,921 --> 00:07:21,841 Speaker 2: as a kid, I didn't eat meat. And it's interesting 131 00:07:21,881 --> 00:07:24,201 Speaker 2: because I was that. I'm that person who like when 132 00:07:24,241 --> 00:07:26,961 Speaker 2: I fell pregnant and I'd gone my whole life going 133 00:07:27,041 --> 00:07:29,641 Speaker 2: like no, my body honestly like doesn't need meat. 134 00:07:29,681 --> 00:07:31,121 Speaker 3: I don't crave it. I don't. 135 00:07:31,161 --> 00:07:33,321 Speaker 2: I don't like it. And I don't even remember why 136 00:07:33,321 --> 00:07:35,521 Speaker 2: I didn't like it. I think it was just when 137 00:07:35,521 --> 00:07:38,041 Speaker 2: I was young, it just became it became a control, 138 00:07:38,681 --> 00:07:40,081 Speaker 2: which a lot of it for a lot of us, 139 00:07:40,081 --> 00:07:43,081 Speaker 2: it is it's like, you know, like you can control. 140 00:07:43,161 --> 00:07:45,041 Speaker 2: It was something in my life that I could control. 141 00:07:45,041 --> 00:07:48,121 Speaker 2: I could control my eating. I could control that when 142 00:07:48,121 --> 00:07:49,721 Speaker 2: I said I didn't want meat, And for me, that 143 00:07:49,801 --> 00:07:52,761 Speaker 2: was an autonomous decision. It was me getting to have autonomy, 144 00:07:53,161 --> 00:07:55,721 Speaker 2: which I think it's really interesting like even when we 145 00:07:56,041 --> 00:07:58,841 Speaker 2: you know, when you delve into relationships with food and 146 00:07:59,121 --> 00:08:02,001 Speaker 2: all of these sorts of things like asking the why 147 00:08:02,161 --> 00:08:04,561 Speaker 2: and even like exploring. 148 00:08:03,881 --> 00:08:05,601 Speaker 3: The like where did it come from? Well why did 149 00:08:05,641 --> 00:08:07,681 Speaker 3: I decide that? Or like is it? 150 00:08:07,721 --> 00:08:10,361 Speaker 1: And C made this decision for me? 151 00:08:10,721 --> 00:08:10,921 Speaker 2: Yeah? 152 00:08:11,241 --> 00:08:14,881 Speaker 4: What life experience made this decision? For me totally, And 153 00:08:14,921 --> 00:08:17,321 Speaker 4: that's why pairing it with knowledge can be helpful. 154 00:08:18,401 --> 00:08:21,161 Speaker 2: Knowledge from the right people, that's the thing, well, and 155 00:08:21,201 --> 00:08:26,041 Speaker 2: that's exactly right, and from people who feel like who 156 00:08:26,081 --> 00:08:30,281 Speaker 2: feel like they're empowering you and not taking away from 157 00:08:30,321 --> 00:08:33,441 Speaker 2: you even like as far as you know, listening to 158 00:08:33,721 --> 00:08:37,201 Speaker 2: your intuition. I think I've mentioned this exercise on the 159 00:08:37,241 --> 00:08:41,321 Speaker 2: podcast before, but I always talk about you can ask 160 00:08:41,361 --> 00:08:45,841 Speaker 2: your body yes and nose, so like bypassing the gut, okay, 161 00:08:45,881 --> 00:08:48,041 Speaker 2: we're not talking to we're not talking to the bugs 162 00:08:48,081 --> 00:08:50,081 Speaker 2: or the monkeys or whatever live that we live inside 163 00:08:50,121 --> 00:08:54,801 Speaker 2: of our gut lining, but like our actual intuition. So 164 00:08:56,001 --> 00:08:58,801 Speaker 2: it's basically like using yourself as a pendulum. And it's 165 00:08:58,801 --> 00:09:01,201 Speaker 2: something that I mentioned to people when they're first like 166 00:09:01,321 --> 00:09:03,521 Speaker 2: really connecting to their intuition. And because a lot of 167 00:09:03,521 --> 00:09:05,841 Speaker 2: the time people go, I don't know which is my 168 00:09:05,921 --> 00:09:07,721 Speaker 2: tuition and which is my head and which is just 169 00:09:07,801 --> 00:09:10,241 Speaker 2: an anxious thought or an intrusive thought or at this, 170 00:09:10,321 --> 00:09:12,881 Speaker 2: and I go, okay, we'll take a really like just 171 00:09:12,921 --> 00:09:15,201 Speaker 2: take a few big deep breaths, close. 172 00:09:15,041 --> 00:09:15,721 Speaker 3: Down your eyes. 173 00:09:15,841 --> 00:09:18,521 Speaker 2: And I mentioned this because this helped me a lot 174 00:09:18,561 --> 00:09:21,681 Speaker 2: when I was trying to navigate my own food journey 175 00:09:22,001 --> 00:09:24,441 Speaker 2: and trying to quiet the noise outside of me and 176 00:09:24,681 --> 00:09:28,401 Speaker 2: understand what I was really wanting. And so what you 177 00:09:28,441 --> 00:09:30,441 Speaker 2: do is you close your eyes and you need to 178 00:09:30,441 --> 00:09:33,201 Speaker 2: try this a fair few times to really listen into 179 00:09:33,241 --> 00:09:35,601 Speaker 2: your body and what it tells you. And you say, 180 00:09:35,641 --> 00:09:39,921 Speaker 2: show me you know, and then you like, just listen, 181 00:09:40,561 --> 00:09:42,961 Speaker 2: how does my body feel when I say show me 182 00:09:43,001 --> 00:09:46,401 Speaker 2: you know? Do I feel tense? Do I feel anxious? 183 00:09:46,441 --> 00:09:49,001 Speaker 2: Do I feel a little bit unwell? And like, you know, 184 00:09:49,321 --> 00:09:51,321 Speaker 2: try and get out of your head as much as possible, 185 00:09:51,361 --> 00:09:54,161 Speaker 2: because sometimes we can start to tell ourselves stories or why. 186 00:09:54,001 --> 00:09:55,561 Speaker 3: Am I not doing this? Why am I not thinking that? 187 00:09:55,601 --> 00:09:56,601 Speaker 3: Why am I not feeling this? 188 00:09:57,281 --> 00:10:00,081 Speaker 2: Just ask your body show me you know, and just 189 00:10:00,121 --> 00:10:03,041 Speaker 2: be interested to see how it reacts. Then I ask 190 00:10:03,121 --> 00:10:06,081 Speaker 2: it to show you a yes, and then again be 191 00:10:06,201 --> 00:10:08,841 Speaker 2: interested to show how it responds. For me, my no 192 00:10:09,081 --> 00:10:11,641 Speaker 2: is very like it's almost like I see black and 193 00:10:11,721 --> 00:10:14,281 Speaker 2: I feel tense, and I can just like it's like 194 00:10:14,321 --> 00:10:16,681 Speaker 2: this feeling of like I just want I feel repulsed. 195 00:10:17,281 --> 00:10:18,001 Speaker 3: When I feel. 196 00:10:17,961 --> 00:10:21,801 Speaker 2: Yes, I get shivers, I feel open, and I use 197 00:10:21,881 --> 00:10:24,561 Speaker 2: feel your energy flow. Yeah, I feel my energy flow 198 00:10:24,561 --> 00:10:26,681 Speaker 2: and I feel my and that's me listening to my 199 00:10:26,721 --> 00:10:29,481 Speaker 2: body and listening to my intuition, and my intuition going oh. 200 00:10:29,321 --> 00:10:30,721 Speaker 3: Okay, I feel really good about that. 201 00:10:30,841 --> 00:10:34,041 Speaker 4: So I guess it's becoming familiar with those yess and 202 00:10:34,121 --> 00:10:37,601 Speaker 4: the nose. And then you can also bring that towards 203 00:10:37,761 --> 00:10:38,961 Speaker 4: whatever might be in front of you. 204 00:10:39,201 --> 00:10:40,201 Speaker 3: Yeah, I literally would. 205 00:10:40,281 --> 00:10:43,161 Speaker 2: It's almost like be doing kinesiology on your body as well, 206 00:10:43,161 --> 00:10:46,681 Speaker 2: Like it's like literally using yourself as a tool. And 207 00:10:46,761 --> 00:10:50,601 Speaker 2: so I would bring that into like does my body 208 00:10:50,641 --> 00:10:54,081 Speaker 2: want such and such or does my body really want 209 00:10:54,121 --> 00:10:56,161 Speaker 2: blah blah blah. I used it a lot in pregnancy too, 210 00:10:56,281 --> 00:10:59,761 Speaker 2: because I would be like, my body wants great mentos. 211 00:10:59,961 --> 00:11:02,921 Speaker 2: My body wants you know, but my body is telling me. 212 00:11:03,121 --> 00:11:04,841 Speaker 3: And I didn't listen to it all the time, Yeah, 213 00:11:05,081 --> 00:11:06,121 Speaker 3: because I just went. 214 00:11:06,321 --> 00:11:08,321 Speaker 2: No, if I don't get a great mentos in my mouth, 215 00:11:08,401 --> 00:11:14,281 Speaker 2: I will fucking run someone over. But it's like, you know, 216 00:11:14,481 --> 00:11:18,601 Speaker 2: not wow to running people over, not wow to that either, 217 00:11:19,001 --> 00:11:21,881 Speaker 2: and not well like that you really really wanted that, 218 00:11:21,721 --> 00:11:24,161 Speaker 2: But that's just a really weird thing to crave. 219 00:11:24,241 --> 00:11:24,721 Speaker 1: I think for. 220 00:11:26,161 --> 00:11:29,521 Speaker 4: Oh my yes, it could be the sweetness, all the freshness, 221 00:11:29,641 --> 00:11:33,361 Speaker 4: or the I don't know for some reason, but I 222 00:11:33,481 --> 00:11:36,401 Speaker 4: like this is just another example of just listen to 223 00:11:36,481 --> 00:11:40,361 Speaker 4: your body. Okay, yeah, yeah yeah, because okay, pregnant women, 224 00:11:41,281 --> 00:11:45,161 Speaker 4: the classic thing to crave is chippies. 225 00:11:45,561 --> 00:11:48,921 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, hot chips, corn chips, hot chips, usbee chips, 226 00:11:49,121 --> 00:11:49,921 Speaker 2: the plain. 227 00:11:50,721 --> 00:11:53,561 Speaker 1: Well yeah, but. 228 00:11:52,801 --> 00:11:56,521 Speaker 4: The big thing is to me with the knowledge that 229 00:11:56,601 --> 00:12:01,441 Speaker 4: I like reflect on is the salt and the fat. 230 00:12:02,001 --> 00:12:06,281 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, salt, fat taty. 231 00:12:06,121 --> 00:12:07,481 Speaker 1: Yes exactly. 232 00:12:07,761 --> 00:12:09,721 Speaker 2: You know, yeah, the potato is a bit bland. 233 00:12:09,801 --> 00:12:10,961 Speaker 3: You know, you got the salt on there. 234 00:12:11,041 --> 00:12:12,081 Speaker 1: Okay, you got the fat there. 235 00:12:12,361 --> 00:12:12,561 Speaker 2: Yeah. 236 00:12:12,721 --> 00:12:13,041 Speaker 3: Whatever. 237 00:12:13,361 --> 00:12:17,601 Speaker 4: This is where the knowledge also is really beautiful to 238 00:12:17,761 --> 00:12:21,041 Speaker 4: have in this disgusting day and age. 239 00:12:20,801 --> 00:12:21,681 Speaker 1: That we're in. 240 00:12:22,001 --> 00:12:27,881 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, we're surviving through because the salt isn't what 241 00:12:27,881 --> 00:12:31,201 Speaker 4: it used to be. Fat isn't what it used to be. 242 00:12:31,561 --> 00:12:37,441 Speaker 4: Who knows about the tato. But however, when. 243 00:12:40,441 --> 00:12:42,201 Speaker 2: We can just do our best with the tady, we 244 00:12:42,401 --> 00:12:44,561 Speaker 2: just just leave the humble tato. 245 00:12:45,081 --> 00:12:49,481 Speaker 1: Let's talk about the fat salt. Okay, so, oh god, salt. 246 00:12:49,561 --> 00:12:50,401 Speaker 3: Let's talk about. 247 00:12:50,201 --> 00:12:52,881 Speaker 1: Salt, because salt is actually such. 248 00:12:53,121 --> 00:12:56,881 Speaker 4: A beautiful, very crucial thing for all of us, so 249 00:12:57,161 --> 00:13:00,841 Speaker 4: much like it's it's just it's always been really important, 250 00:13:01,001 --> 00:13:03,481 Speaker 4: but I feel like it's becoming more and more important, 251 00:13:03,601 --> 00:13:06,801 Speaker 4: and especially the more I learned. So salt is actually 252 00:13:06,921 --> 00:13:11,041 Speaker 4: really mineral rich, Like we require minerals for everything to 253 00:13:11,081 --> 00:13:14,881 Speaker 4: be done in our body, and we require sodium itself. However, 254 00:13:14,921 --> 00:13:17,161 Speaker 4: what we've done to the salt now today is we've 255 00:13:17,201 --> 00:13:20,961 Speaker 4: stripped it of minerals, so we have sodium chloride. That's 256 00:13:21,001 --> 00:13:24,961 Speaker 4: what we're left with. Like table salt is salt. Yeah, 257 00:13:25,161 --> 00:13:29,121 Speaker 4: it's like sodium chloride. That's a couple of minerals. Nothing 258 00:13:29,121 --> 00:13:32,281 Speaker 4: else has all been stripped. However, when we eat something 259 00:13:32,321 --> 00:13:36,161 Speaker 4: like sea salt or Celtic sea salt or even Himalayan 260 00:13:36,201 --> 00:13:40,001 Speaker 4: salt that's got the minerals within it still that our 261 00:13:40,041 --> 00:13:45,361 Speaker 4: body is truly craving. So pregnant women, we need heaps 262 00:13:45,401 --> 00:13:50,361 Speaker 4: of salt. Our blood volume, our water volume is increasing dramatically, 263 00:13:50,561 --> 00:13:54,121 Speaker 4: and we're needing it for all these things that we're 264 00:13:54,161 --> 00:13:54,961 Speaker 4: doing right. 265 00:13:54,921 --> 00:13:56,761 Speaker 3: Yeah, like limb making and sin. 266 00:13:56,641 --> 00:14:02,721 Speaker 2: Making, eyeball forming. We really do need them and need 267 00:14:02,721 --> 00:14:05,521 Speaker 2: the salt, and we need that extra magnesium that also 268 00:14:05,841 --> 00:14:09,881 Speaker 2: in salt as well. So when we're stressed physically or mentally, 269 00:14:10,081 --> 00:14:12,841 Speaker 2: we require more salt. Think about the classic symptoms when 270 00:14:12,841 --> 00:14:15,921 Speaker 2: we're actually inflamed, it's actually a sign we need. 271 00:14:15,761 --> 00:14:16,721 Speaker 1: A little bit more salt. 272 00:14:16,921 --> 00:14:17,681 Speaker 3: Oh gorgeous. 273 00:14:17,761 --> 00:14:21,801 Speaker 4: Yes, when our dreamals are overworked and like pumping, like 274 00:14:21,841 --> 00:14:25,121 Speaker 4: going through stressful times again physically or mentally, we really 275 00:14:25,161 --> 00:14:27,801 Speaker 4: need to replenish those minerals and that's coming through salt, 276 00:14:28,001 --> 00:14:28,721 Speaker 4: but good salt. 277 00:14:29,401 --> 00:14:32,121 Speaker 2: So basically, if you're listening to this podcast, walk away, 278 00:14:32,281 --> 00:14:34,961 Speaker 2: just lick some good salt all the time. 279 00:14:35,081 --> 00:14:36,161 Speaker 3: Yeah. I actually do too. 280 00:14:36,321 --> 00:14:41,401 Speaker 2: See I'm a slut for salt, and salt is something 281 00:14:42,121 --> 00:14:47,241 Speaker 2: is so intuitive, like we really our salt change a 282 00:14:47,361 --> 00:14:51,121 Speaker 2: salt taste and wants change when you're eating real food 283 00:14:51,961 --> 00:14:54,601 Speaker 2: and not like salt mixed with a bit of MSG. 284 00:14:54,761 --> 00:14:58,001 Speaker 2: Your salt requirements are really speak to you. And say 285 00:14:58,001 --> 00:15:02,281 Speaker 2: with protein as well, it's really hard to overdo things 286 00:15:02,321 --> 00:15:05,361 Speaker 2: like when you're eating meat, right, Yeah, it's it really 287 00:15:05,361 --> 00:15:07,881 Speaker 2: hard to just like overindulge in that because your body 288 00:15:07,921 --> 00:15:08,561 Speaker 2: is like hey. 289 00:15:08,361 --> 00:15:11,401 Speaker 1: Cool, I'm done. Yeah, And that goes the same as salt. 290 00:15:11,841 --> 00:15:12,641 Speaker 1: And then fat. 291 00:15:13,001 --> 00:15:16,241 Speaker 4: Okay, so we've talked about how important fat is, but 292 00:15:16,361 --> 00:15:20,441 Speaker 4: particularly for pregnant women, it's like your body will never 293 00:15:20,481 --> 00:15:25,481 Speaker 4: communicate more than when you're pregnant, right, and so kind 294 00:15:25,481 --> 00:15:29,161 Speaker 4: of like really tap into that intuition because it is critical. 295 00:15:29,201 --> 00:15:33,361 Speaker 4: So when you're craving those chippies, go eat the fat 296 00:15:33,401 --> 00:15:36,761 Speaker 4: and the salt and the chippy like the potato, but 297 00:15:36,921 --> 00:15:39,161 Speaker 4: try and just get it from the better sauces or 298 00:15:39,201 --> 00:15:41,641 Speaker 4: at least if you're going to eat that, then then 299 00:15:41,761 --> 00:15:43,441 Speaker 4: catered to the actual needs later. 300 00:15:44,001 --> 00:15:45,801 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, like. 301 00:15:46,121 --> 00:15:48,121 Speaker 2: Eat hot chips from the fish and chip store, but 302 00:15:48,161 --> 00:15:51,201 Speaker 2: then go home and like just like have a chunk 303 00:15:51,241 --> 00:15:55,081 Speaker 2: of butter some salt. Yes, And the reason why fat 304 00:15:55,201 --> 00:15:57,441 Speaker 2: might not be as great from that local fish and 305 00:15:57,481 --> 00:16:00,801 Speaker 2: chip shop is because they generally use hydrogenated vegetable oil, 306 00:16:01,161 --> 00:16:04,081 Speaker 2: which is genetically modified seeds, and then they add hydrogen 307 00:16:04,161 --> 00:16:06,721 Speaker 2: bonds to the vegetable because it's not actually a solid fat, 308 00:16:07,001 --> 00:16:10,921 Speaker 2: so they make it solid chemically and then that really 309 00:16:11,081 --> 00:16:12,321 Speaker 2: stuffs up cell. 310 00:16:12,161 --> 00:16:13,801 Speaker 1: To sell to communication within your body. 311 00:16:13,801 --> 00:16:16,401 Speaker 4: It's not actually providing what you need so and it 312 00:16:16,601 --> 00:16:19,561 Speaker 4: provides inflammation at the same time, So don't do that. 313 00:16:19,601 --> 00:16:23,161 Speaker 4: We don't need any more chunky ankles than what we've 314 00:16:23,201 --> 00:16:28,401 Speaker 4: got so during pregnancy, so yeah, go have that lard, 315 00:16:28,521 --> 00:16:30,961 Speaker 4: Go have that coconut, oh gee, whatever it is, or 316 00:16:31,041 --> 00:16:32,161 Speaker 4: poorl cracker, et cetera. 317 00:16:32,401 --> 00:16:35,521 Speaker 2: It's so because when I fell pregnant, that's when I 318 00:16:35,521 --> 00:16:38,601 Speaker 2: started eating meat. And I remember when I was studying 319 00:16:38,721 --> 00:16:42,401 Speaker 2: nutrition at university and being in lectures where I was 320 00:16:42,441 --> 00:16:46,881 Speaker 2: told how good fat is for you, how good meat. 321 00:16:46,801 --> 00:16:50,881 Speaker 3: Is for you, And at this stage I gave you permission. No, 322 00:16:50,921 --> 00:16:51,641 Speaker 3: it's still didn't. 323 00:16:52,001 --> 00:16:55,721 Speaker 2: I still was sitting there going no. But that's like 324 00:16:55,841 --> 00:16:58,841 Speaker 2: my body. My body doesn't my body, you know, everyone, 325 00:16:58,961 --> 00:17:01,881 Speaker 2: everyone's bodies are different, and my body doesn't need my 326 00:17:01,961 --> 00:17:03,401 Speaker 2: body doesn't need meaty. 327 00:17:03,601 --> 00:17:04,321 Speaker 3: And I don't know. 328 00:17:04,241 --> 00:17:06,120 Speaker 2: Why I was so a touch this story fish. I 329 00:17:06,241 --> 00:17:08,241 Speaker 2: was pescatarian for a bit, but then I dabbled in 330 00:17:08,321 --> 00:17:11,681 Speaker 2: raw veganism and all these other things. Interestingly enough, did 331 00:17:11,681 --> 00:17:13,360 Speaker 2: have a lot to do with the people around me too. 332 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:16,481 Speaker 2: Mine was a combination of one. It was a control 333 00:17:16,521 --> 00:17:18,161 Speaker 2: of It was one thing in my life I felt 334 00:17:18,201 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 2: like I had control over and also who was around 335 00:17:21,521 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 2: me because I worked at like a raw vegan. I 336 00:17:23,721 --> 00:17:26,401 Speaker 2: managed a raw vegan cafe for a while, So then 337 00:17:26,721 --> 00:17:29,161 Speaker 2: if I dabbled in meat around those people, my lord, 338 00:17:29,201 --> 00:17:31,881 Speaker 2: I just felt like the biggest shit head ever those 339 00:17:31,921 --> 00:17:33,881 Speaker 2: people eat meat now, they all eat meat. 340 00:17:33,921 --> 00:17:34,680 Speaker 3: Now you know that. 341 00:17:37,360 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 2: But when I fell pregnant and I always made jokes, 342 00:17:40,201 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 2: I was like, I bet you I'll fell pregnant and 343 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:43,761 Speaker 2: I was like, that's when I'll want to eat meat. 344 00:17:43,921 --> 00:17:47,401 Speaker 2: I remember like making roast lambs and things for Chris 345 00:17:47,481 --> 00:17:49,801 Speaker 2: because I really liked to cook, and I was like, fuck, 346 00:17:50,201 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 2: I would love to get that in my face. I 347 00:17:53,561 --> 00:17:57,561 Speaker 2: had to go and get like healings, get kinesiology done 348 00:17:57,561 --> 00:17:58,441 Speaker 2: because I couldn't put. 349 00:17:58,360 --> 00:17:59,001 Speaker 3: It in my mouth. 350 00:17:59,120 --> 00:18:02,120 Speaker 2: My body was like salivating for it. Yeah, it's like 351 00:18:02,201 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 2: this trauma response or something. It was. It was it 352 00:18:05,281 --> 00:18:08,041 Speaker 2: was connected to like Atrallo Mayspons thing and again the 353 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 2: control And so when I started eating it, I have 354 00:18:11,241 --> 00:18:15,681 Speaker 2: literally I spent my whole life being insanely an emic. 355 00:18:15,761 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 3: Like would pass out. 356 00:18:16,801 --> 00:18:19,121 Speaker 2: I just thought like blacking out twelve times a day 357 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:20,041 Speaker 2: was completely normal. 358 00:18:20,041 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 3: I would pass out most days. 359 00:18:21,801 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 2: And then I was like started eating meat, and I 360 00:18:24,360 --> 00:18:27,160 Speaker 2: was like, is this how you're supposed to feel? Even 361 00:18:27,281 --> 00:18:33,041 Speaker 2: my weight just felt consistent my body, how I felt 362 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:36,721 Speaker 2: like my energy levels like and I craved fat. 363 00:18:36,761 --> 00:18:37,921 Speaker 3: I think I've said this year before. 364 00:18:37,961 --> 00:18:41,880 Speaker 2: I'm like chez I will just like my body thrives 365 00:18:41,961 --> 00:18:46,281 Speaker 2: off fats of good fats yea. And then this craving 366 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:49,640 Speaker 2: for once you give yourself that permission and truly listen in, 367 00:18:49,801 --> 00:18:52,801 Speaker 2: that craving can last a couple of years to replenish. 368 00:18:53,041 --> 00:18:56,360 Speaker 2: Because even within the fresh years of my journey, I 369 00:18:56,441 --> 00:18:57,120 Speaker 2: was happy. 370 00:18:57,120 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 1: I would happily eat gee of the spoon. 371 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:00,201 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, for sure. 372 00:19:00,481 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 1: But now I really don't feel like I need it. 373 00:19:02,761 --> 00:19:05,281 Speaker 4: I'm putting it in everything I yea have I have 374 00:19:05,321 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 4: it everywhere, But yeah, I don't feel that my body 375 00:19:08,921 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 4: is not like, oh, I've been deprived of that for 376 00:19:11,201 --> 00:19:11,641 Speaker 4: so long. 377 00:19:11,761 --> 00:19:13,481 Speaker 1: Give me it off the spoon type thing. 378 00:19:13,721 --> 00:19:16,681 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, And that's how I felt. I've 379 00:19:16,681 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 2: felt like for years, pretty much the whole like a 380 00:19:19,561 --> 00:19:23,161 Speaker 2: thousand years that I was pregnant consistently and breastfeeding. 381 00:19:23,441 --> 00:19:25,521 Speaker 3: All I wanted, yeah, was fat. 382 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 4: It's because also you're lifting up those nutrients in the 383 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:30,801 Speaker 4: meantime again, those fat sole vitamins, that vitamin ad NK, 384 00:19:31,001 --> 00:19:34,161 Speaker 4: which are critical to manufacture a baby. 385 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 2: So manufacture a baby, that's what the storks, that's what 386 00:19:40,961 --> 00:19:43,120 Speaker 2: they do. They manufacture the baby, and you send the 387 00:19:43,201 --> 00:19:46,241 Speaker 2: nutrients up to them so that they can make. 388 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 1: Them good analogy. 389 00:19:50,041 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 4: So just reflecting on you and your cravings wanting that meat, right, 390 00:19:56,001 --> 00:19:59,001 Speaker 4: I just want to provide the knowledge behind it of 391 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:02,120 Speaker 4: why your body was really. 392 00:20:01,801 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 1: Screaming for it at this point in your pregnancy. 393 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:07,361 Speaker 2: Yeah, because I feel like when we have this noise 394 00:20:07,561 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 2: around us, it blocks us from accepting that intuition. But 395 00:20:11,561 --> 00:20:14,321 Speaker 2: when we pair that intuition with a little bit of 396 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:20,241 Speaker 2: knowledge again, it can provide that intuition and acceptance and permission. 397 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:20,921 Speaker 1: To go for it. 398 00:20:21,321 --> 00:20:28,041 Speaker 4: So why because when we eat protein and or from 399 00:20:28,201 --> 00:20:31,481 Speaker 4: meat sauces, we're not only getting the protein, we're also 400 00:20:31,521 --> 00:20:36,721 Speaker 4: getting the iron, the b vitamins, the zinc in really 401 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:42,801 Speaker 4: bioavailable forms. So there's a lot of misinformation out there 402 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:45,241 Speaker 4: that you can really easily get these sorts of things 403 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:51,920 Speaker 4: from plant sources or supplements. However, unfortunately nature has really 404 00:20:52,001 --> 00:20:55,521 Speaker 4: arranged things to not work like that. We need, unfortunately, 405 00:20:55,561 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 4: to get them from meat sauces most of the time. 406 00:20:59,561 --> 00:21:06,160 Speaker 4: So for example, from iron, you can get he from 407 00:21:06,321 --> 00:21:09,441 Speaker 4: meat sources. You can only get non hem i from 408 00:21:09,441 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 4: plant sources. The bioavailability, so the digestion, absorption and actually 409 00:21:14,321 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 4: usability within the body is so different very low percentage, 410 00:21:19,801 --> 00:21:23,041 Speaker 4: very high percentage of being able to use it and digest, 411 00:21:23,120 --> 00:21:23,561 Speaker 4: et cetera. 412 00:21:23,961 --> 00:21:26,561 Speaker 1: So that is actually going to lift your nutrients. It's not. 413 00:21:26,801 --> 00:21:31,521 Speaker 4: Actually it's not just playing games when we're just eating 414 00:21:31,521 --> 00:21:34,681 Speaker 4: it from the plant sources, it's just touching the surface. 415 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 4: B vitamins is the same, particularly B twelve. Our body 416 00:21:38,761 --> 00:21:45,521 Speaker 4: really needs that, particularly for energy, clarity, cognition, lack of anxiety, 417 00:21:45,961 --> 00:21:50,400 Speaker 4: lack of heart palpitations. So we need that in order 418 00:21:50,481 --> 00:21:53,201 Speaker 4: to and we'll crave it from the meat sources because. 419 00:21:53,041 --> 00:21:54,881 Speaker 1: That's the real source of it. 420 00:21:55,681 --> 00:22:00,080 Speaker 4: I could pretty confidently say you can't get the density 421 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:05,561 Speaker 4: within meat anywhere else. And again zinc is another part 422 00:22:05,561 --> 00:22:08,281 Speaker 4: of that too, Like plant sources can be can have 423 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:11,360 Speaker 4: some zinc in it, but again the usability. 424 00:22:10,801 --> 00:22:11,521 Speaker 1: Is so low. 425 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,441 Speaker 4: So basically meat can be a very. 426 00:22:14,521 --> 00:22:17,201 Speaker 1: Easy way for us to access this. 427 00:22:17,241 --> 00:22:21,880 Speaker 4: Incredible pocket of nutrients for us so and then liver. 428 00:22:22,321 --> 00:22:25,521 Speaker 4: The big reason I included in forage because I'm constantly asked, 429 00:22:26,001 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 4: will we bring out plant based version or a vegan 430 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:31,561 Speaker 4: version or a vegetarian version of foraged My answer is 431 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 4: always compassionately no, with love, absolutely not, because there's no 432 00:22:39,201 --> 00:22:42,201 Speaker 4: other food I know of on the planet that has 433 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:50,201 Speaker 4: the likeful like nutrient density as liver does, so grand 434 00:22:50,241 --> 00:22:51,921 Speaker 4: for gram it's one of the most nutrient dense foods 435 00:22:51,921 --> 00:22:55,881 Speaker 4: on the planet. So for example, and yes, liver can 436 00:22:55,921 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 4: be a strong taste just bypass that intuition there. 437 00:23:00,921 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 2: Just yeah, just when it when you taste it, but 438 00:23:05,041 --> 00:23:07,201 Speaker 2: I don't see like when I have it in forage, 439 00:23:07,241 --> 00:23:10,161 Speaker 2: like I don't taste it. Yes, but also like if 440 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:13,681 Speaker 2: you're pregnant or yes, when I was pregnant, I did struggle. 441 00:23:13,681 --> 00:23:18,281 Speaker 2: I used to capsulize it myself. Remember I do remember that. 442 00:23:18,281 --> 00:23:21,041 Speaker 2: That's a lot of effort, darling. Thankfully we have capsules 443 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:26,321 Speaker 2: now for that time. So yeah, so you do have 444 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:26,880 Speaker 2: that option. 445 00:23:27,481 --> 00:23:30,721 Speaker 4: But also just by reflecting on your blood testing results, right, 446 00:23:31,321 --> 00:23:34,801 Speaker 4: like if you are struggling to know what your intuition 447 00:23:34,921 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 4: is talking about, again, pair it with that knowledge and 448 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,241 Speaker 4: go get your blood's done and see what's happening within 449 00:23:40,281 --> 00:23:43,401 Speaker 4: your body and cap to it, and then you might 450 00:23:43,441 --> 00:23:45,721 Speaker 4: not know how good you could feel totally. 451 00:23:46,281 --> 00:23:49,641 Speaker 2: Let's talk about the other side of that, because right 452 00:23:49,681 --> 00:23:52,120 Speaker 2: we've just talked about how good meat is. Meat is 453 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 2: so great, but then there's the other side of the 454 00:23:54,761 --> 00:23:59,241 Speaker 2: coin right where there's a lot of noise around. 455 00:23:59,681 --> 00:24:00,961 Speaker 1: It's too good being. 456 00:24:00,801 --> 00:24:06,241 Speaker 2: A caveman and being the carnival diet, and how veggies 457 00:24:06,281 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 2: are bad for you and how you shouldn't eat vegetables 458 00:24:09,761 --> 00:24:15,041 Speaker 2: because they're poisonous, and like, let's just settle some things 459 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 2: on that noise. 460 00:24:16,120 --> 00:24:20,160 Speaker 4: Okay, So as you already understand, my biggest inspiration. 461 00:24:19,961 --> 00:24:24,401 Speaker 2: Is culture and tradition. Within culture and tradition, we've always 462 00:24:24,521 --> 00:24:33,721 Speaker 2: prepared vegetables and plants as we should have, soaking, fermenting, boiling, etc. 463 00:24:34,521 --> 00:24:37,880 Speaker 2: Or removing particular parts of plants as well. 464 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,321 Speaker 1: And what that does is it. 465 00:24:40,561 --> 00:24:43,640 Speaker 4: Can go from a not so great food to a 466 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:47,961 Speaker 4: really bloody fabulous food that can be digested and absorbed 467 00:24:48,360 --> 00:24:52,801 Speaker 4: the nutrients within it really well and effortlessly. So there 468 00:24:53,001 --> 00:24:57,400 Speaker 4: is this concept that we have to avoid all of 469 00:24:57,441 --> 00:25:02,921 Speaker 4: those in order to heal. In some cases, some people 470 00:25:03,481 --> 00:25:10,441 Speaker 4: may have such sh damaged guts that they may benefit 471 00:25:10,561 --> 00:25:11,201 Speaker 4: from that for. 472 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:12,241 Speaker 1: A period of time. 473 00:25:12,681 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 4: However, it does not mean that is their life goal 474 00:25:18,041 --> 00:25:22,120 Speaker 4: or like their life sentence, sorry to be on account 475 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:26,120 Speaker 4: of a diet. Look at if you only feel okay 476 00:25:26,481 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 4: on meats, you need to go, well, what's wrong with 477 00:25:29,561 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 4: me because I should tolerate those things. 478 00:25:33,921 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 1: And it's not like what's wrong with me? 479 00:25:35,201 --> 00:25:38,441 Speaker 4: It's more like, okay, thanks, but what do I need 480 00:25:38,521 --> 00:25:41,321 Speaker 4: to do in order to tolerate these things? Because I 481 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:45,161 Speaker 4: should be able to eat them. Firstly, I would go, 482 00:25:45,201 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 4: all right, well, if you're not tolerating that, then see 483 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:53,641 Speaker 4: how it should actually be prepared. So it might be 484 00:25:53,801 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 4: a fermentation, it might be a soaking of that food. 485 00:25:57,921 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 4: Another example is in Italy, one of their big staples 486 00:26:02,120 --> 00:26:06,041 Speaker 4: is boiled spinach, and I when I was in Italy, 487 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 4: I was like, this is so cool to me because 488 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:12,201 Speaker 4: it's just like a clear example of preparing things right. 489 00:26:12,321 --> 00:26:17,321 Speaker 4: And that dish has been there for probably thousands of 490 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 4: years because they just know now we boil it before 491 00:26:20,921 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 4: we consume it. So but the noise out there is 492 00:26:24,761 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 4: that oxalates are bad for us, and spinach is a 493 00:26:27,921 --> 00:26:32,441 Speaker 4: high oxalate food. However, when you boil spinach, it goes 494 00:26:32,481 --> 00:26:35,640 Speaker 4: into the water and it's no longer high oxalate food. 495 00:26:36,721 --> 00:26:39,721 Speaker 4: So that's what really grinds me when they're like, you're 496 00:26:39,761 --> 00:26:43,321 Speaker 4: consuming toxins, It's like, well, no, if you just actually 497 00:26:43,360 --> 00:26:47,601 Speaker 4: prepared it as our great the grandparents taught us. Then 498 00:26:48,120 --> 00:26:55,360 Speaker 4: you very Italian, Lushian or something else, then you'd probably 499 00:26:55,360 --> 00:27:00,001 Speaker 4: be able to tolerate it really beautifully fermentation. So, for example, 500 00:27:00,201 --> 00:27:04,521 Speaker 4: foraged I was not going to settle with not fermenting 501 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:09,880 Speaker 4: portion of those ingredients. My husband, Sean is like, hates 502 00:27:10,001 --> 00:27:12,640 Speaker 4: me because I'm so attached to the fermentation process. 503 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 2: And that's because it's so expensive. It's so expensive to 504 00:27:16,921 --> 00:27:21,041 Speaker 2: ferment these ingredients. But I will not take a shortcut 505 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,121 Speaker 2: when I'm consuming it every single day. My children are 506 00:27:24,321 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 2: and Ronda, Joanne and Harry are too, and Mickey, yeah, 507 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:35,041 Speaker 2: and Micky. So in order to actually digest it, absorb 508 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,041 Speaker 2: it and as similar those nutrients and actually enhance the 509 00:27:37,120 --> 00:27:41,120 Speaker 2: nutrients in the process, we ferment it. It's interesting how 510 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 2: you keep talking about like and this is what I 511 00:27:43,281 --> 00:27:46,880 Speaker 2: love about your philosophy, is this concept of like of 512 00:27:47,001 --> 00:27:50,360 Speaker 2: the ancestral and like going back and like looking at 513 00:27:50,360 --> 00:27:53,681 Speaker 2: how culturally things have sort of been done, because I mean, 514 00:27:53,681 --> 00:27:54,881 Speaker 2: if you think about it. 515 00:27:55,241 --> 00:27:56,721 Speaker 3: All they had was their intuition. 516 00:27:57,281 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 2: All they had was like their intuition and the knowledge 517 00:28:00,001 --> 00:28:02,281 Speaker 2: that they had at the time too, and going off 518 00:28:02,360 --> 00:28:04,841 Speaker 2: like oh well we ate this, we tried this, this 519 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,041 Speaker 2: is this is all that we had on the land 520 00:28:07,120 --> 00:28:09,481 Speaker 2: that we had, this is what we had available to us. 521 00:28:09,561 --> 00:28:11,881 Speaker 2: And so we realized that if we just ate that raw, 522 00:28:11,961 --> 00:28:14,321 Speaker 2: then it made us feel like this, if we fermented it, 523 00:28:14,360 --> 00:28:16,001 Speaker 2: if we cooked it, if we did this, and if 524 00:28:16,001 --> 00:28:18,401 Speaker 2: we ate that and so the only gauge that they 525 00:28:18,481 --> 00:28:20,761 Speaker 2: ever had was how they felt. And so it is 526 00:28:20,801 --> 00:28:23,561 Speaker 2: a really beautiful thing. I think to like, look at 527 00:28:23,561 --> 00:28:25,360 Speaker 2: it that way and look at food that way. And 528 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:26,721 Speaker 2: I know for me that was like one of the 529 00:28:26,761 --> 00:28:30,640 Speaker 2: biggest healing things of going like, well, what's making my 530 00:28:30,721 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 2: body feel good? And like I know, even with my kids, 531 00:28:34,281 --> 00:28:36,440 Speaker 2: something that I always say to them and even to 532 00:28:36,521 --> 00:28:40,401 Speaker 2: myself to simplify it, right, because it can become really overwhelming, 533 00:28:40,481 --> 00:28:44,321 Speaker 2: especially when you're trying to educate kids in a way 534 00:28:44,361 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 2: where they still have this gorgeous relationship with food, they 535 00:28:47,201 --> 00:28:49,401 Speaker 2: don't feel afraid of it. But I always just say 536 00:28:49,401 --> 00:28:52,361 Speaker 2: to them, we're made of the earth. Because we are 537 00:28:52,401 --> 00:28:54,521 Speaker 2: we're humans, We're made of the earth, and so when 538 00:28:54,561 --> 00:28:57,801 Speaker 2: we eat food from the earth, our body feels really good. 539 00:28:57,841 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 2: Because we're made of earth, so we need earth. So 540 00:29:00,761 --> 00:29:02,801 Speaker 2: the more earth that we eat, and the more that 541 00:29:02,841 --> 00:29:04,921 Speaker 2: we eat from the earth, the better we feel. And 542 00:29:05,161 --> 00:29:07,281 Speaker 2: I even think that that can be applied to like 543 00:29:07,441 --> 00:29:09,641 Speaker 2: adults as well, you know, when we think of it 544 00:29:09,721 --> 00:29:12,081 Speaker 2: like that, and like then you know, start to really 545 00:29:12,641 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 2: even discover our own and social roots. And you know, 546 00:29:15,641 --> 00:29:19,041 Speaker 2: just in general, like people who like so connected to 547 00:29:19,081 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 2: the earth and so connected to the lend, they can 548 00:29:21,041 --> 00:29:24,121 Speaker 2: teach us so much about food and because they honor 549 00:29:24,161 --> 00:29:26,361 Speaker 2: it more than we do. For us, it's so easy, 550 00:29:26,401 --> 00:29:29,161 Speaker 2: it's so accessible, it's so there. We just grab whatever's available, 551 00:29:29,161 --> 00:29:32,161 Speaker 2: We grab whatever's there, and also like taking into account, 552 00:29:32,281 --> 00:29:36,721 Speaker 2: you know, privilege and what we have capacity for, and 553 00:29:36,801 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 2: like obviously it's so amazing that there are foods that 554 00:29:40,481 --> 00:29:44,601 Speaker 2: we can access really quickly and there are great services 555 00:29:44,641 --> 00:29:47,841 Speaker 2: that provide you know, food that's accessible. If you're a 556 00:29:47,881 --> 00:29:50,481 Speaker 2: single mum and you're working three bloody jobs to raise 557 00:29:50,481 --> 00:29:52,361 Speaker 2: your kids and like you know, you might not have 558 00:29:52,441 --> 00:29:55,801 Speaker 2: the time, the money or anything else. So like take 559 00:29:56,641 --> 00:30:01,161 Speaker 2: all of this, like take knowledge, take your intuition, and 560 00:30:01,241 --> 00:30:02,721 Speaker 2: then just apply it. 561 00:30:02,721 --> 00:30:03,361 Speaker 3: To your life. 562 00:30:03,841 --> 00:30:06,041 Speaker 2: Thank you so much as for coming in and chatting. 563 00:30:06,121 --> 00:30:07,961 Speaker 2: I know we could talk about this for forty years, 564 00:30:07,961 --> 00:30:08,921 Speaker 2: which we've already gone. 565 00:30:08,961 --> 00:30:12,281 Speaker 3: This is a two episode of Thank You beautiful and 566 00:30:12,361 --> 00:30:13,761 Speaker 3: everyone have a gorgeous week. 567 00:30:13,961 --> 00:30:20,601 Speaker 2: Bye.