WEBVTT - Sharri | 7 October

0:00:00.680 --> 0:00:04.640
<v Speaker 1>Live from Israel, and this is a special edition of

0:00:04.760 --> 0:00:11.280
<v Speaker 1>Sharry Good Evening. I'm here in the heart of Israel.

0:00:11.800 --> 0:00:16.160
<v Speaker 1>One year ago, terrorists tried to destroy this nation in

0:00:16.200 --> 0:00:20.639
<v Speaker 1>one of the darkest days in Jewish history. Today we

0:00:20.840 --> 0:00:25.120
<v Speaker 1>remember the invasion that would change both Israel and life

0:00:25.520 --> 0:00:28.720
<v Speaker 1>as we know it. But we also recognize that Israel

0:00:28.840 --> 0:00:32.800
<v Speaker 1>is alive. It's fighting, it's determined to survive, and it

0:00:32.880 --> 0:00:35.840
<v Speaker 1>won't rest until it brings it's one hundred and one

0:00:35.960 --> 0:00:39.840
<v Speaker 1>hostages home. This is a significant show tonight. You don't

0:00:39.840 --> 0:00:43.320
<v Speaker 1>want to miss a minute. Farmer Israeli Prime Minister of

0:00:43.520 --> 0:00:46.040
<v Speaker 1>Tarlie Bennett is on the show. He has a strong

0:00:46.120 --> 0:00:51.440
<v Speaker 1>warning for terrorist sympathizers. I speak to freed hostage Aviva Siegel.

0:00:51.720 --> 0:00:55.840
<v Speaker 1>She describes in graphic detail what it was like in

0:00:55.880 --> 0:01:00.000
<v Speaker 1>those underground her must tunnels and how the young women

0:01:00.000 --> 0:01:04.920
<v Speaker 1>women were being raped. Aviva is a living, breathing witness

0:01:05.240 --> 0:01:07.959
<v Speaker 1>to the horrors inflicted by her musk and a stark

0:01:08.040 --> 0:01:11.880
<v Speaker 1>reminder why the world can't abandon the women, children, and

0:01:11.920 --> 0:01:17.959
<v Speaker 1>even a baby still held hostage. Will also remember Galit Carbone.

0:01:18.040 --> 0:01:21.640
<v Speaker 1>She's the only Australian murdered on October seven, and I

0:01:21.680 --> 0:01:25.920
<v Speaker 1>speak to her brother. He details her harrowing final moments,

0:01:26.280 --> 0:01:30.360
<v Speaker 1>her desperate struggle to survive as she tried in vain

0:01:30.720 --> 0:01:35.640
<v Speaker 1>to fight off terrorists at Kibutz BAIRI. Plus the latest

0:01:35.800 --> 0:01:40.920
<v Speaker 1>on the despicable Palestinian protests in Australia. They've even been

0:01:41.000 --> 0:01:47.200
<v Speaker 1>praised by Hesvela. How can some Australians be so heartless?

0:01:47.720 --> 0:01:51.080
<v Speaker 1>But first, one year on from the October seven attacks,

0:01:51.960 --> 0:01:54.960
<v Speaker 1>none of our lives will ever be the same again.

0:01:55.640 --> 0:01:58.600
<v Speaker 1>We can't go back to who we were on October

0:01:58.600 --> 0:02:04.560
<v Speaker 1>sixth last year. That innocence lost forever. The sun had

0:02:04.600 --> 0:02:09.640
<v Speaker 1>barely risen at Kibbutzbery when crazed terrorists went from door

0:02:09.639 --> 0:02:13.680
<v Speaker 1>to door, intent on murdering every Jew they could hunt down,

0:02:14.200 --> 0:02:20.040
<v Speaker 1>even babies. For six hours, Avida Bacha held the safe

0:02:20.080 --> 0:02:23.760
<v Speaker 1>room door shut. He was protecting his wife and their

0:02:23.760 --> 0:02:28.040
<v Speaker 1>two children. The terrorists, knowing someone was standing there on

0:02:28.080 --> 0:02:32.160
<v Speaker 1>the other side of the door, peppered the room with bullets.

0:02:32.919 --> 0:02:34.919
<v Speaker 1>I stood in that safe room just a couple of

0:02:35.000 --> 0:02:38.720
<v Speaker 1>days ago, and looking around at the hundreds of bullet

0:02:38.720 --> 0:02:41.520
<v Speaker 1>holes in the walls and ceiling, it was hard to

0:02:41.560 --> 0:02:46.240
<v Speaker 1>imagine how anyone could have made it out alive. Mum

0:02:46.400 --> 0:02:51.000
<v Speaker 1>Dana was shot and so was her surfing loving son Carmel,

0:02:51.480 --> 0:02:56.600
<v Speaker 1>just fifteen years old. Dad Avida was shot too, but

0:02:56.760 --> 0:03:02.640
<v Speaker 1>he survived while his wife son bled to death in

0:03:02.720 --> 0:03:03.520
<v Speaker 1>that very.

0:03:03.720 --> 0:03:08.480
<v Speaker 2>Room she was supposed to be in Sri Lanka for surfing,

0:03:08.639 --> 0:03:10.919
<v Speaker 2>was a surfer and he one of the last things

0:03:10.960 --> 0:03:14.760
<v Speaker 2>he said to his dead that bury me with my surfboard,

0:03:15.000 --> 0:03:15.640
<v Speaker 2>which he did.

0:03:15.880 --> 0:03:17.040
<v Speaker 3>We did last week.

0:03:17.080 --> 0:03:17.880
<v Speaker 4>We buried them.

0:03:17.800 --> 0:03:25.760
<v Speaker 1>Beck here, just fifteen years old. No child deserves this

0:03:25.919 --> 0:03:29.440
<v Speaker 1>and no girl should watch her mum and brother be

0:03:29.680 --> 0:03:35.000
<v Speaker 1>murdered over at Kibbutz Kafaraza. As the air raids sirens

0:03:35.040 --> 0:03:41.080
<v Speaker 1>went off, new parents had and Itai Berdiceski went to

0:03:41.120 --> 0:03:45.000
<v Speaker 1>their bomb shelter with their ten month old twins. The

0:03:45.040 --> 0:03:48.760
<v Speaker 1>loving parents were only thirty years old. Hayda's last text

0:03:48.840 --> 0:03:52.760
<v Speaker 1>message was at six fifty four am, and she joked

0:03:52.800 --> 0:03:56.080
<v Speaker 1>about being stuck in the bomb shelter with dirty nampies,

0:03:56.320 --> 0:03:59.400
<v Speaker 1>a joke any mum would have made. Her dead body

0:03:59.880 --> 0:04:04.120
<v Speaker 1>was later found in the kitchen. Her husband's body in

0:04:04.160 --> 0:04:08.440
<v Speaker 1>the bomb shelter near their babies, who were alive and crying.

0:04:09.520 --> 0:04:11.760
<v Speaker 1>It appears he'd managed to put the twins on a

0:04:11.800 --> 0:04:15.000
<v Speaker 1>bed not exposed to the front door in the corner

0:04:15.080 --> 0:04:19.000
<v Speaker 1>of the room, and those babies ten months old. They

0:04:19.040 --> 0:04:22.599
<v Speaker 1>were there for twelve hours without food or water until

0:04:22.640 --> 0:04:24.960
<v Speaker 1>Israeli soldiers found them.

0:04:25.480 --> 0:04:28.719
<v Speaker 5>Sister's neighbor that he went back home and they lived

0:04:28.760 --> 0:04:30.600
<v Speaker 5>right next to each other, and he saw their door.

0:04:31.000 --> 0:04:35.400
<v Speaker 5>That the front door is open. He'sa an empty AK

0:04:35.600 --> 0:04:40.760
<v Speaker 5>forty seven magazine on the stairs, and that he hears

0:04:40.800 --> 0:04:45.440
<v Speaker 5>that they're twins. They had two baby twins ten months old.

0:04:46.000 --> 0:04:50.440
<v Speaker 5>He heard them crying. He tried to get into the house,

0:04:50.520 --> 0:04:55.200
<v Speaker 5>but every time he did, the terrorists shot at him,

0:04:55.240 --> 0:04:59.040
<v Speaker 5>so we couldn't get inside. Us told us that it's confirmed,

0:04:59.080 --> 0:05:02.839
<v Speaker 5>and a dark and entire Dad and I remember we

0:05:02.880 --> 0:05:08.320
<v Speaker 5>had this a minute or two that we kind of yeah,

0:05:08.320 --> 0:05:11.039
<v Speaker 5>I cried broke for a minute or two, but then

0:05:11.120 --> 0:05:13.240
<v Speaker 5>we looked at each other and was like, Okay, now

0:05:13.320 --> 0:05:15.039
<v Speaker 5>we don't have one baby to take care of. We

0:05:15.120 --> 0:05:18.360
<v Speaker 5>have three.

0:05:19.279 --> 0:05:22.840
<v Speaker 1>Those tiny babies are lucky to be alive, but they'll

0:05:22.880 --> 0:05:26.160
<v Speaker 1>never know their parents than our orphans being raised by

0:05:26.200 --> 0:05:30.119
<v Speaker 1>their uncle and I. At the same kibots, three little

0:05:30.200 --> 0:05:34.440
<v Speaker 1>children aged three, six and nine watched as their mom

0:05:34.480 --> 0:05:39.360
<v Speaker 1>and dad were murdered by Hamas six year old and Malia,

0:05:39.800 --> 0:05:44.160
<v Speaker 1>nine year old. Michael hid in a cupboard, but little Abigail,

0:05:44.279 --> 0:05:46.880
<v Speaker 1>only three years old, was missing.

0:05:48.640 --> 0:06:03.480
<v Speaker 6>Telephone, Michava little, that's gonna be telephone my dad, Michel Benedeta, telephone,

0:06:04.760 --> 0:06:13.560
<v Speaker 6>the Imma metaforel bit the k.

0:06:17.560 --> 0:06:20.240
<v Speaker 1>That was seven a m. By the afternoon, they were

0:06:20.320 --> 0:06:22.800
<v Speaker 1>still hiding in the closet, a six year old and

0:06:22.920 --> 0:06:27.320
<v Speaker 1>a nine year old. Twelve hours later and this was

0:06:27.400 --> 0:06:42.760
<v Speaker 1>the emotional moment when they were finally rescued Maria, but

0:06:42.920 --> 0:06:46.520
<v Speaker 1>three year old Abigail was taken hostage. She turned four

0:06:46.800 --> 0:06:50.800
<v Speaker 1>in Gaza without a single member of her family around her,

0:06:51.200 --> 0:06:54.560
<v Speaker 1>just terror. When she was released as part of the

0:06:54.640 --> 0:06:59.120
<v Speaker 1>ceasefire deal, she came home an orphan and the three

0:06:59.240 --> 0:07:04.960
<v Speaker 1>children are now with relatives. The trauma very real. Over

0:07:05.000 --> 0:07:08.400
<v Speaker 1>at the Nova Music Festival site, four hundred young Israelis

0:07:08.440 --> 0:07:12.720
<v Speaker 1>were hunted and murdered, gone down or burnt in fire,

0:07:13.320 --> 0:07:19.080
<v Speaker 1>girls were raped. Those who survived tell just unbelievable stories

0:07:19.160 --> 0:07:22.520
<v Speaker 1>of running, hiding in the bushes, in abandoned cars, and

0:07:22.640 --> 0:07:28.480
<v Speaker 1>playing dead, all trying to stay one step ahead of death,

0:07:29.120 --> 0:07:33.080
<v Speaker 1>not knowing which way to turn. We'd hope that we.

0:07:35.240 --> 0:07:40.040
<v Speaker 7>Escape from the terrorists that come from one direction from

0:07:40.120 --> 0:07:45.720
<v Speaker 7>this point, and when we reach to the road, we

0:07:45.880 --> 0:07:48.120
<v Speaker 7>get shot from the bury directions.

0:07:48.280 --> 0:07:51.200
<v Speaker 4>So they surrounding us.

0:07:52.800 --> 0:07:53.120
<v Speaker 7>And we.

0:07:55.440 --> 0:07:58.800
<v Speaker 4>Leaned on the road hiding.

0:07:59.480 --> 0:08:03.880
<v Speaker 8>Run from wherever you try to go, you have terrorists.

0:08:04.560 --> 0:08:07.400
<v Speaker 8>They're coming from that direction with Rpgan. From the underdirection,

0:08:07.480 --> 0:08:11.000
<v Speaker 8>you have cipers, and then you see them on motorcycles

0:08:11.040 --> 0:08:14.560
<v Speaker 8>and it's you just don't have a good option. They

0:08:14.600 --> 0:08:15.280
<v Speaker 8>don't have her to go.

0:08:18.240 --> 0:08:23.560
<v Speaker 1>Entire families were slaughtered one year ago today Tamar, her

0:08:23.640 --> 0:08:26.600
<v Speaker 1>husband Jonatan. They're five and a half year old, twin

0:08:26.720 --> 0:08:31.560
<v Speaker 1>daughters Shah and Abel, and their son Omer, aged just two.

0:08:32.160 --> 0:08:35.760
<v Speaker 1>They were all murdered at their home in Kibbutz near Oz.

0:08:36.600 --> 0:08:40.199
<v Speaker 1>Terrorists also shot dead parents Dina and Evgeny, and their

0:08:40.360 --> 0:08:44.760
<v Speaker 1>daughters Eleene aged eight and Ethan, aged five, as they

0:08:44.840 --> 0:08:47.800
<v Speaker 1>returned to their home from a camping trip after hearing

0:08:48.000 --> 0:08:52.000
<v Speaker 1>sirens and came across hermus on the road. There were

0:08:52.040 --> 0:08:56.000
<v Speaker 1>more than one two hundred Israelis massacred on October seven

0:08:56.600 --> 0:09:01.199
<v Speaker 1>in what is a true genocide committed by Hamas and

0:09:01.320 --> 0:09:06.000
<v Speaker 1>Palestine in Islamic g hat. According to Israeli data, thirty

0:09:06.040 --> 0:09:11.120
<v Speaker 1>eight children were murdered on October seven, thirty eight children.

0:09:11.880 --> 0:09:14.679
<v Speaker 1>This vision is distressing, just a warning, but you can

0:09:14.760 --> 0:09:18.160
<v Speaker 1>see the blood soaked cots where some were killed, and

0:09:18.320 --> 0:09:22.920
<v Speaker 1>twenty children had both parents killed. Ninety six children had

0:09:23.000 --> 0:09:26.400
<v Speaker 1>one parent killed, and there are fifteen children who still

0:09:26.480 --> 0:09:31.320
<v Speaker 1>have both one parents held hostage in Gaza. And then

0:09:31.400 --> 0:09:35.240
<v Speaker 1>there's the child hostages who still haven't been released by Hermas.

0:09:36.160 --> 0:09:40.720
<v Speaker 1>Baby Kafir Bivas. He was kidnapped at nine months old

0:09:41.320 --> 0:09:45.800
<v Speaker 1>along with his brother Ariel, who was four. Kafa turned

0:09:45.840 --> 0:09:52.160
<v Speaker 1>one in captivity and his brother turned five. No birthday celebrations, presents, cake,

0:09:52.640 --> 0:09:56.199
<v Speaker 1>or even sunlight. We don't know if they're still alive.

0:09:56.400 --> 0:09:59.480
<v Speaker 1>We don't know if baby Kafir ever made it to

0:09:59.559 --> 0:10:04.600
<v Speaker 1>his firm birthday. They're among the one hundred and one children,

0:10:04.880 --> 0:10:09.240
<v Speaker 1>elderly women and men who are still hostage in Gaza.

0:10:10.120 --> 0:10:12.600
<v Speaker 1>It's believed many of them are being used as human

0:10:12.679 --> 0:10:18.280
<v Speaker 1>shields to protect the cowardly harmas leader Yaya Sinha. Some

0:10:18.559 --> 0:10:24.200
<v Speaker 1>hostages thankfully have made at home through unbelievably courageous rescue

0:10:24.240 --> 0:10:29.200
<v Speaker 1>missions or early ceasefire ideals. Those who have made at

0:10:29.240 --> 0:10:33.200
<v Speaker 1>home face deep trauma. Some are a shelf of their

0:10:33.280 --> 0:10:34.079
<v Speaker 1>former selves.

0:10:34.720 --> 0:10:34.800
<v Speaker 3>Now.

0:10:34.840 --> 0:10:37.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to share some of these stories with you

0:10:37.640 --> 0:10:40.719
<v Speaker 1>either tonight or over the next few days. But this

0:10:40.960 --> 0:10:45.600
<v Speaker 1>celebration of death by Hermas speaks to something darkly wrong

0:10:45.960 --> 0:10:49.199
<v Speaker 1>with the education and political system in Gaza, where the

0:10:49.280 --> 0:10:53.400
<v Speaker 1>government pays a salary to the families whose sons or

0:10:53.520 --> 0:10:59.360
<v Speaker 1>daughters are martyrs or terrorists, where school children are indoctrinated

0:10:59.760 --> 0:11:03.199
<v Speaker 1>to want death to Jews. Yet instead of trying to

0:11:03.360 --> 0:11:08.000
<v Speaker 1>change the Palestinian leadership and actually support Israel in removing

0:11:08.080 --> 0:11:13.240
<v Speaker 1>the terror threat, the international community makes daily demands of

0:11:13.360 --> 0:11:17.439
<v Speaker 1>the Jewish nation. The October seven terror attacks, in truth,

0:11:17.920 --> 0:11:23.079
<v Speaker 1>have only benefitted the Palestinian cause, which has since received

0:11:23.400 --> 0:11:26.840
<v Speaker 1>billions of dollars in funding and has improved its international

0:11:26.960 --> 0:11:31.240
<v Speaker 1>standing at bodies like the United Nations. The horrors inflicted

0:11:31.280 --> 0:11:34.960
<v Speaker 1>by Himas have not only rocked to Israel, but they've

0:11:35.040 --> 0:11:40.760
<v Speaker 1>exposed the failings in Western civilization. We simply can't imagine

0:11:40.760 --> 0:11:46.160
<v Speaker 1>anyone trying to claim the Holocaust should be contextualized, yet

0:11:46.320 --> 0:11:50.040
<v Speaker 1>that somehow Jews brought it upon themselves. Yet that's the

0:11:50.200 --> 0:11:53.640
<v Speaker 1>kind of unforgivable victim blaming that we've seen on a

0:11:53.760 --> 0:11:57.640
<v Speaker 1>daily basis over the past year, as the world urged

0:11:57.760 --> 0:12:02.679
<v Speaker 1>Israel to pack up, go home, forget the hostages, and

0:12:02.920 --> 0:12:08.440
<v Speaker 1>let the terrorists live. The October seven attacks rocked Israel

0:12:08.559 --> 0:12:12.280
<v Speaker 1>to its core, and Israelis continue to grapple with the

0:12:12.480 --> 0:12:19.240
<v Speaker 1>enormity of this devastating loss. But there's also a renewed

0:12:19.400 --> 0:12:24.400
<v Speaker 1>determination to survive. There's strength and resolve in the face

0:12:24.440 --> 0:12:27.959
<v Speaker 1>of weak Western leadership that knows nothing about the threat

0:12:28.000 --> 0:12:31.400
<v Speaker 1>of terror on their doorstep, yet they seek to impose

0:12:31.480 --> 0:12:35.560
<v Speaker 1>their virtue signaling ideas upon a people who've always had

0:12:35.640 --> 0:12:41.400
<v Speaker 1>to fight for survival. The lessons of past persecutions will

0:12:41.559 --> 0:12:47.439
<v Speaker 1>not be easily forgotten the anniversary today, it's important. We

0:12:47.600 --> 0:12:52.640
<v Speaker 1>can't look away. This is history in the making, history

0:12:53.280 --> 0:12:57.800
<v Speaker 1>of the very worst kind, and we have to bear

0:12:57.880 --> 0:13:05.880
<v Speaker 1>witness of all the one two hundred innocent victims of

0:13:05.920 --> 0:13:09.160
<v Speaker 1>October seven. It was the kibbutzim near the border of

0:13:09.240 --> 0:13:12.719
<v Speaker 1>Gaza which bore the brunt of the massacre. As I've

0:13:12.760 --> 0:13:17.079
<v Speaker 1>been saying, entire families murdered. The only Australian victim that

0:13:17.280 --> 0:13:21.760
<v Speaker 1>day Garlic Carbone, and she fought a desperate but ultimately

0:13:22.000 --> 0:13:25.600
<v Speaker 1>hopeless battle to survive. I spoke to her brother Danny

0:13:25.679 --> 0:13:29.800
<v Speaker 1>Masner at Kiboltz Bery where so many lost their lives,

0:13:30.480 --> 0:13:34.320
<v Speaker 1>and a warning this interview it's a must watch. It's powerful,

0:13:34.760 --> 0:13:36.120
<v Speaker 1>it's also confronting.

0:13:41.840 --> 0:13:44.000
<v Speaker 3>The rockets came down really heavily.

0:13:44.320 --> 0:13:47.439
<v Speaker 2>That a friend of mine saw from his house all

0:13:47.559 --> 0:13:51.680
<v Speaker 2>the Hamas guys on their bikes and their pickup trucks,

0:13:52.000 --> 0:13:55.160
<v Speaker 2>and that was about six thirty from the road that's

0:13:55.160 --> 0:13:58.319
<v Speaker 2>surrounding the Kibbutz. They came from the strip. They murdered

0:13:58.400 --> 0:14:00.839
<v Speaker 2>the guy that's really in charge of the security on

0:14:00.840 --> 0:14:03.719
<v Speaker 2>the Kibuti came. It didn't know anything what happened, and

0:14:03.840 --> 0:14:05.360
<v Speaker 2>they just shot him and that was it.

0:14:08.600 --> 0:14:12.040
<v Speaker 1>Many families called this Cubo time. Eleven hundred people lived

0:14:12.080 --> 0:14:16.840
<v Speaker 1>here before October seven, including your sister Gallette. How many were.

0:14:16.840 --> 0:14:21.400
<v Speaker 2>Killed a year ago, it's one hundred and two people

0:14:21.520 --> 0:14:22.440
<v Speaker 2>from our community.

0:14:23.000 --> 0:14:24.240
<v Speaker 3>That's nearly ten percent.

0:14:24.600 --> 0:14:27.400
<v Speaker 2>As you can see on the banner here on the side,

0:14:28.120 --> 0:14:32.560
<v Speaker 2>we still have hopefully three hostages, kidnapped people that are

0:14:32.560 --> 0:14:37.040
<v Speaker 2>still alive, and seven bodies that need to be returned

0:14:37.080 --> 0:14:39.280
<v Speaker 2>for permanent beryl that we know that they're dead.

0:14:40.360 --> 0:14:44.479
<v Speaker 3>So it's something really unthinkable.

0:14:45.000 --> 0:14:47.720
<v Speaker 1>So they climbed the gates. How did they physically get They.

0:14:47.680 --> 0:14:51.280
<v Speaker 2>Broke in this window and they pressed the electricty gate

0:14:51.480 --> 0:14:52.720
<v Speaker 2>and they opened it and.

0:14:52.760 --> 0:14:57.440
<v Speaker 3>They just stormed inside. They just came in numbers, more

0:14:57.480 --> 0:14:58.360
<v Speaker 3>and more and more.

0:14:58.560 --> 0:15:06.600
<v Speaker 1>Which should we go inside and show us what happened? Yes, indeed, so, Danny,

0:15:06.640 --> 0:15:10.240
<v Speaker 1>your sister Garlett was here in her home on the

0:15:10.320 --> 0:15:14.640
<v Speaker 1>morning of October seven when her mask came inside her house.

0:15:14.720 --> 0:15:15.280
<v Speaker 1>What happened?

0:15:17.600 --> 0:15:20.160
<v Speaker 3>From what I know, She rang me at twelve or

0:15:20.280 --> 0:15:23.360
<v Speaker 3>nine twelve pm and telling me.

0:15:23.480 --> 0:15:27.280
<v Speaker 2>That she hears them inside the house and she's not

0:15:27.440 --> 0:15:29.560
<v Speaker 2>sure if she locked the door, didn't lock the door,

0:15:30.040 --> 0:15:33.160
<v Speaker 2>as if it really matters, And I told her, okay,

0:15:33.240 --> 0:15:35.520
<v Speaker 2>let's whisper, let's not them here that.

0:15:36.720 --> 0:15:38.840
<v Speaker 3>Let them know that someone's there. She was in her

0:15:38.880 --> 0:15:40.200
<v Speaker 3>safe she was in a safety room.

0:15:40.240 --> 0:15:46.080
<v Speaker 2>Of course, she was holding the handle, and you know

0:15:46.560 --> 0:15:48.880
<v Speaker 2>it's it's other who's going to bend first.

0:15:49.000 --> 0:15:52.240
<v Speaker 3>You know, she didn't stand a chance, not one chance.

0:15:52.800 --> 0:15:55.160
<v Speaker 3>My father was overseas. He's a ninety one year old.

0:15:55.160 --> 0:15:57.400
<v Speaker 2>It was at ninety at the time, you old Holocaust

0:15:57.400 --> 0:15:59.800
<v Speaker 2>survivor from France, and I had to tell him that

0:16:00.160 --> 0:16:03.760
<v Speaker 2>daughter was murdered on the keyboards by Yeah, it was

0:16:04.920 --> 0:16:06.680
<v Speaker 2>certainly and definitely the hardest thing I.

0:16:06.720 --> 0:16:07.680
<v Speaker 3>Had to do in my life.

0:16:08.040 --> 0:16:09.440
<v Speaker 1>You both grew up in Australia.

0:16:09.720 --> 0:16:12.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we grew up till she was eleven.

0:16:12.360 --> 0:16:15.240
<v Speaker 2>I was seven when we left Sydney to come to

0:16:15.360 --> 0:16:16.680
<v Speaker 2>these keyboats Kibutzberi.

0:16:17.200 --> 0:16:19.200
<v Speaker 1>So the rest of her life was really based in

0:16:19.240 --> 0:16:21.920
<v Speaker 1>this keyboat. She had children here.

0:16:22.520 --> 0:16:25.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she had kids here and her life was here. Really,

0:16:25.600 --> 0:16:29.000
<v Speaker 2>she had a very comfortable life. She has three kids,

0:16:29.080 --> 0:16:31.600
<v Speaker 2>six grandkids, and she loved them all.

0:16:34.880 --> 0:16:38.720
<v Speaker 1>Did the terrorists they come to your house or they.

0:16:38.480 --> 0:16:43.080
<v Speaker 2>Just moved underneath? They burned a few houses next to me.

0:16:43.200 --> 0:16:45.960
<v Speaker 2>They murdered a few people next to me. I live

0:16:46.000 --> 0:16:49.920
<v Speaker 2>on the second floor. So hopefully that's what saved me.

0:16:49.960 --> 0:16:50.960
<v Speaker 2>I'd say, when the.

0:16:51.080 --> 0:16:54.280
<v Speaker 1>Army evacuated you and you would have walked through the keyboards,

0:16:54.280 --> 0:16:54.720
<v Speaker 1>it just.

0:16:55.080 --> 0:16:59.560
<v Speaker 3>Must have looked like something apocalyptia. It was a graveyard.

0:16:59.640 --> 0:17:01.440
<v Speaker 3>It was everything was burnt.

0:17:03.360 --> 0:17:05.240
<v Speaker 2>And it was just and I was sort of like

0:17:05.359 --> 0:17:08.240
<v Speaker 2>as a sort of speaks, tall guy. The soldiers told

0:17:08.280 --> 0:17:11.320
<v Speaker 2>the kids behind me, looks forward, straight ahead of him,

0:17:11.359 --> 0:17:12.800
<v Speaker 2>don't look sidewards.

0:17:12.520 --> 0:17:15.320
<v Speaker 1>All the families who lived here were defenseless.

0:17:14.840 --> 0:17:16.800
<v Speaker 3>That I want to protect them absolutely.

0:17:17.160 --> 0:17:21.520
<v Speaker 1>The Foreign Minister, Pennywong refused to come here. She refused

0:17:21.640 --> 0:17:25.720
<v Speaker 1>to see firsthand what had happened. She did visit Israel,

0:17:25.800 --> 0:17:28.760
<v Speaker 1>but she refused to come to the keyboard. Sim what's

0:17:28.800 --> 0:17:29.639
<v Speaker 1>your reaction to that?

0:17:32.440 --> 0:17:38.600
<v Speaker 2>Well, that's really a mind blower, Shari, because one would think, Okay,

0:17:38.800 --> 0:17:42.000
<v Speaker 2>you made a trip half around the world, you circle

0:17:42.080 --> 0:17:45.720
<v Speaker 2>the globe, you got to Israel, and when you asked

0:17:46.080 --> 0:17:48.119
<v Speaker 2>why didn't you come down to Berea, why didn't you

0:17:48.200 --> 0:17:52.119
<v Speaker 2>contact any one of your civilians that live overseas. The

0:17:52.200 --> 0:17:54.200
<v Speaker 2>only thing you could say, oh, I had to meet

0:17:54.320 --> 0:17:56.160
<v Speaker 2>mister Danny danone yad Vashem.

0:17:56.760 --> 0:17:57.680
<v Speaker 3>I didn't have time.

0:17:58.800 --> 0:18:02.600
<v Speaker 2>I mean, seriously, you're the foreign minister of a big

0:18:02.720 --> 0:18:06.399
<v Speaker 2>country called Australia. You come over to Israel. You've got

0:18:06.440 --> 0:18:08.720
<v Speaker 2>one citizen that was murdered. I think it's the only

0:18:08.840 --> 0:18:14.119
<v Speaker 2>Australian citizen on the attack. Please make a little effort.

0:18:14.520 --> 0:18:18.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying much, contact us, contact her kids, come

0:18:18.240 --> 0:18:20.119
<v Speaker 2>and see what happened firsthand.

0:18:20.240 --> 0:18:20.399
<v Speaker 7>You know.

0:18:24.840 --> 0:18:27.800
<v Speaker 1>So this is typical of what happened to so many

0:18:27.880 --> 0:18:29.159
<v Speaker 1>homes on October seventh.

0:18:29.720 --> 0:18:34.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, unfortunately, Yes, this is a house of Vivia and Silver,

0:18:34.920 --> 0:18:39.400
<v Speaker 2>Jewish Canadian that moved from Canada to Israel many years ago.

0:18:39.800 --> 0:18:41.080
<v Speaker 3>She retired and she.

0:18:41.200 --> 0:18:47.159
<v Speaker 2>Dedicated her life to help the poor Palestinians living in

0:18:47.280 --> 0:18:53.960
<v Speaker 2>Gaza regarding their health condition and unfortunately she founded. She

0:18:54.119 --> 0:18:58.040
<v Speaker 2>found her death in her house. She was burnt and

0:18:58.440 --> 0:19:00.879
<v Speaker 2>it took while to identify via DNA.

0:19:01.440 --> 0:19:03.560
<v Speaker 1>She was in her safe room. But they burnt down the.

0:19:03.600 --> 0:19:05.720
<v Speaker 2>Hand, burnt everything, and it took a while to really

0:19:06.560 --> 0:19:11.800
<v Speaker 2>understand that it's her, and that just shows that they

0:19:11.920 --> 0:19:13.280
<v Speaker 2>killed and murdered everyone.

0:19:15.920 --> 0:19:19.280
<v Speaker 1>So this is a safe room. There was a family here,

0:19:19.359 --> 0:19:23.280
<v Speaker 1>two children. I mean, there's hundreds of bullet holes around

0:19:23.320 --> 0:19:23.640
<v Speaker 1>the room.

0:19:24.520 --> 0:19:26.960
<v Speaker 3>This is a typical safety room like we all have.

0:19:27.160 --> 0:19:31.960
<v Speaker 2>It's a nine square meter and everyone was supposed to

0:19:32.000 --> 0:19:34.520
<v Speaker 2>go in the safety rooms and close or lock the

0:19:34.600 --> 0:19:39.520
<v Speaker 2>door behind. So did this family, My friend Avida and

0:19:39.640 --> 0:19:44.080
<v Speaker 2>his wife Dona and two kids, Calmel and Hadaal, And

0:19:44.200 --> 0:19:47.960
<v Speaker 2>they went in here and about an hour after the

0:19:48.240 --> 0:19:50.359
<v Speaker 2>vists got to this place, and they had to hold

0:19:51.240 --> 0:19:51.760
<v Speaker 2>between them.

0:19:51.760 --> 0:19:53.879
<v Speaker 9>Between Carmel and Avida, they held the handle.

0:19:54.240 --> 0:19:56.240
<v Speaker 4>There's no locks, so that was holding it shot.

0:19:56.400 --> 0:19:58.359
<v Speaker 2>They were holding it one way while they're trying the

0:19:58.440 --> 0:20:02.480
<v Speaker 2>other way, and then he told them go away in Arabic,

0:20:03.600 --> 0:20:08.040
<v Speaker 2>there's only kids here, and obviously they didn't and they

0:20:08.119 --> 0:20:10.159
<v Speaker 2>realized that if the handle is here someone standing in

0:20:10.200 --> 0:20:14.280
<v Speaker 2>front of they start shooting. Calmel was shot in the shoulder,

0:20:14.920 --> 0:20:20.280
<v Speaker 2>a video was shot both legs and Dana was sitting here,

0:20:20.920 --> 0:20:26.200
<v Speaker 2>the wife, the mother, and she got hurt through a ribcage,

0:20:26.720 --> 0:20:29.720
<v Speaker 2>a very small and tiny hole which he didn't even

0:20:29.760 --> 0:20:33.520
<v Speaker 2>see any blood, but she started to gasp for air

0:20:34.600 --> 0:20:36.760
<v Speaker 2>and afterwards that was it.

0:20:37.359 --> 0:20:40.600
<v Speaker 3>She bled internally. Yeah.

0:20:40.720 --> 0:20:45.159
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, And one of the sons, Calmel, which he was

0:20:45.200 --> 0:20:48.600
<v Speaker 2>supposed to be in Sri Lanka for surfing, was a

0:20:48.680 --> 0:20:51.200
<v Speaker 2>surfer and one of the last things he said to

0:20:51.320 --> 0:20:55.400
<v Speaker 2>his dad that bury me with my surfboard, which he did.

0:20:55.720 --> 0:20:56.880
<v Speaker 2>We did last week.

0:21:03.640 --> 0:21:07.640
<v Speaker 1>Such a heartbreaking story and walking through that kidbootz, of course,

0:21:07.760 --> 0:21:12.040
<v Speaker 1>was really quite emotional. Well let's turn to politics now,

0:21:12.320 --> 0:21:14.640
<v Speaker 1>and there's a lot of debate in Israel and around

0:21:14.720 --> 0:21:18.520
<v Speaker 1>the world about how exactly to eliminate the terror threat.

0:21:19.119 --> 0:21:22.440
<v Speaker 1>Farmer Israeli Prime Minister and f Tarlie Bennett, who's a

0:21:22.520 --> 0:21:26.800
<v Speaker 1>political rival of Netanyahu joined me a little while ago.

0:21:27.160 --> 0:21:31.520
<v Speaker 1>Here's that interview. Former Prime Minister Aftali Bennett, thank you

0:21:31.640 --> 0:21:34.560
<v Speaker 1>so much for joining us today. I want to start

0:21:34.600 --> 0:21:38.320
<v Speaker 1>with your reflections a year on from the October seven

0:21:38.520 --> 0:21:39.200
<v Speaker 1>terror attacks.

0:21:40.160 --> 0:21:45.480
<v Speaker 9>You know, October seventh was a day that caused great

0:21:45.560 --> 0:21:50.480
<v Speaker 9>trauma for the people of Israel. They were at an

0:21:50.560 --> 0:21:57.080
<v Speaker 9>institutional level, the government, the military, the institutions failed. But

0:21:57.240 --> 0:21:59.600
<v Speaker 9>on the same day it was also a day of

0:22:00.119 --> 0:22:04.520
<v Speaker 9>great heroism of the nation of Israel, the people, especially

0:22:04.600 --> 0:22:08.359
<v Speaker 9>the younger generation, where thousands of young men and women

0:22:09.040 --> 0:22:13.240
<v Speaker 9>got in their cars and drove down to the Gaza

0:22:13.720 --> 0:22:18.360
<v Speaker 9>envelope in order to save lives of their brothers and sisters,

0:22:18.760 --> 0:22:22.560
<v Speaker 9>who many of them have never met before, and many

0:22:22.600 --> 0:22:26.840
<v Speaker 9>of them fell in the action while fighting terrorists. This

0:22:27.040 --> 0:22:31.040
<v Speaker 9>is unheard of, this degree of heroism. So I would say,

0:22:31.760 --> 0:22:35.840
<v Speaker 9>we've learned that we have an amazing nation, but we've

0:22:35.880 --> 0:22:40.159
<v Speaker 9>also learned that our institutions failed us badly and we

0:22:40.280 --> 0:22:41.000
<v Speaker 9>need to fix them.

0:22:44.000 --> 0:22:48.280
<v Speaker 1>Will you say your institutions failed you badly? And Naftali Bennett,

0:22:48.320 --> 0:22:51.200
<v Speaker 1>I've spent the past few days speaking to people who

0:22:51.280 --> 0:22:54.200
<v Speaker 1>survived the Nova Music Festival and also people at the

0:22:54.280 --> 0:22:57.800
<v Speaker 1>kibbut Sim who lost loved ones, and they told me

0:22:57.920 --> 0:23:01.159
<v Speaker 1>that many were left to fend for them for twelve

0:23:01.280 --> 0:23:05.960
<v Speaker 1>hours or more. Why did the military fail to arrive?

0:23:06.080 --> 0:23:07.280
<v Speaker 1>Why did it take so long?

0:23:09.880 --> 0:23:13.840
<v Speaker 9>This is one of the biggest failures, perhaps the biggest

0:23:13.880 --> 0:23:17.160
<v Speaker 9>failure in the history of the State of Israel. You see,

0:23:17.200 --> 0:23:21.359
<v Speaker 9>the State of Israel was established precisely so Jews would

0:23:21.880 --> 0:23:26.359
<v Speaker 9>never again be under massacres for hours and hours of

0:23:26.440 --> 0:23:31.840
<v Speaker 9>pogrom like we were in Europe or in North Africa, helpless.

0:23:32.400 --> 0:23:37.400
<v Speaker 9>And that's, unfortunately exactly what happened. This is a magnitude

0:23:37.440 --> 0:23:41.440
<v Speaker 9>of an epic failure of the State of Israel. And

0:23:41.600 --> 0:23:44.240
<v Speaker 9>as I said, the people who saved the day are

0:23:44.440 --> 0:23:49.000
<v Speaker 9>the nation and the younger generation. There were about sixty

0:23:49.320 --> 0:23:54.680
<v Speaker 9>communities under attack. There were four massacres that took place

0:23:54.800 --> 0:23:59.640
<v Speaker 9>in Kibutsk, far As Biri, Neurals and the Nova Music

0:23:59.680 --> 0:24:05.200
<v Speaker 9>Fest of all. But in the other sixty communities, the

0:24:06.480 --> 0:24:11.600
<v Speaker 9>few civilians that were there repelled dozens and dozens of

0:24:11.840 --> 0:24:15.440
<v Speaker 9>terrorists at the highest degree of heroism. We're going to

0:24:15.480 --> 0:24:16.680
<v Speaker 9>have to learn the lessons.

0:24:19.920 --> 0:24:22.560
<v Speaker 1>Well, how do we learn those lessons? Do you think

0:24:22.640 --> 0:24:24.920
<v Speaker 1>that now that it has been a year. It's time

0:24:25.000 --> 0:24:27.320
<v Speaker 1>to start talking about an inquiry.

0:24:28.960 --> 0:24:35.560
<v Speaker 9>Absolutely, we need to form a national inquiry. I think

0:24:35.640 --> 0:24:40.400
<v Speaker 9>it's a long time should have been done already. Now

0:24:40.480 --> 0:24:42.800
<v Speaker 9>that we're a year in we need to do it.

0:24:43.000 --> 0:24:43.560
<v Speaker 3>We need to be.

0:24:45.320 --> 0:24:49.920
<v Speaker 9>As honest with ourselves and open with ourselves so something

0:24:50.040 --> 0:24:53.160
<v Speaker 9>like this can never again occur. I think it would

0:24:53.200 --> 0:24:56.240
<v Speaker 9>be wrong to postpone this any longer.

0:24:59.280 --> 0:25:02.440
<v Speaker 1>Mister Bennett and Australia. This weekend and even today on

0:25:02.560 --> 0:25:07.560
<v Speaker 1>October seven, we've seen the most disgraceful pro Palestinian rallies

0:25:07.880 --> 0:25:12.359
<v Speaker 1>Hesbala flags being waived, or flags with na Israela's face

0:25:12.440 --> 0:25:16.159
<v Speaker 1>on them. We've seen similar scenes at university campuses around

0:25:16.200 --> 0:25:20.040
<v Speaker 1>the world where students are even saying that Israel shouldn't

0:25:20.119 --> 0:25:21.600
<v Speaker 1>have the right to exist.

0:25:21.680 --> 0:25:26.200
<v Speaker 9>What's your response to all of this, Well, I don't

0:25:26.240 --> 0:25:31.600
<v Speaker 9>give them what some snotty student whose parents are spending

0:25:31.640 --> 0:25:34.159
<v Speaker 9>one hundred thousand dollars a year to send them to

0:25:34.400 --> 0:25:38.840
<v Speaker 9>gender studies at Harvard what he thinks about whether I

0:25:39.000 --> 0:25:40.760
<v Speaker 9>have a right or don't have a right to live

0:25:40.800 --> 0:25:45.400
<v Speaker 9>in my homeland. We live here, this is Israel has

0:25:45.480 --> 0:25:49.399
<v Speaker 9>been the Jewish ancestral land for almost four thousand years.

0:25:50.040 --> 0:25:53.639
<v Speaker 9>I've fought for this land. I've lost very good friends

0:25:53.720 --> 0:25:57.280
<v Speaker 9>fighting on this land. My son is in a combat unit.

0:25:57.960 --> 0:26:03.240
<v Speaker 9>And the fact that there are extremely confused students in

0:26:03.440 --> 0:26:07.200
<v Speaker 9>Harvard or Ivy League schools around the world that think

0:26:07.280 --> 0:26:11.840
<v Speaker 9>they have the right to even a doubt whether we

0:26:12.000 --> 0:26:15.760
<v Speaker 9>have the right to live here, that's ridiculous. The problem

0:26:15.880 --> 0:26:19.360
<v Speaker 9>is there is not ours. Israel is a nation of lions.

0:26:20.320 --> 0:26:26.040
<v Speaker 9>The Israelis are, in my opinion, the bravest, have the

0:26:26.119 --> 0:26:29.800
<v Speaker 9>bravest younger generation in the world. We're going to win

0:26:30.040 --> 0:26:35.040
<v Speaker 9>our and defeat our enemies. And you know these students

0:26:35.040 --> 0:26:38.080
<v Speaker 9>should spend their time on better endeavors.

0:26:41.119 --> 0:26:45.720
<v Speaker 1>Very well said, completely agree. Turning to around now, we're

0:26:45.760 --> 0:26:50.760
<v Speaker 1>seeing the international community demand of Israel as ceasefire. There

0:26:50.920 --> 0:26:54.680
<v Speaker 1>are concerns by the US President Joe Biden that this

0:26:54.800 --> 0:26:58.600
<v Speaker 1>could lead to a wider regional escalation if Israel does

0:26:58.720 --> 0:27:03.280
<v Speaker 1>retaliate again. Anst Iran, what's your response to the international

0:27:03.359 --> 0:27:06.399
<v Speaker 1>community demanding a ceasefire and do you think Israel should

0:27:07.040 --> 0:27:12.400
<v Speaker 1>hit target the nuclear capabilities that Iran is currently developing.

0:27:14.600 --> 0:27:22.399
<v Speaker 9>Israel must attack Iran's nuclear program. Iran's leadership and the

0:27:23.040 --> 0:27:28.359
<v Speaker 9>regime's economic system. The Islamic Republic of Iran a terrible

0:27:28.440 --> 0:27:33.000
<v Speaker 9>regime which is hijacked its own people who despise it.

0:27:33.960 --> 0:27:40.560
<v Speaker 9>This regime has been lobbying rockets at Israel and causing

0:27:41.040 --> 0:27:44.440
<v Speaker 9>terror through its arms. It's like an octopus of terror,

0:27:44.520 --> 0:27:47.840
<v Speaker 9>so through its tentacles for the better part of thirty years.

0:27:48.480 --> 0:27:53.919
<v Speaker 9>Over the past year, it directly shot five hundred projectiles

0:27:54.160 --> 0:27:57.760
<v Speaker 9>over to Israel. We have all the legitimacy to act,

0:27:58.440 --> 0:28:02.560
<v Speaker 9>but now as an opportune time, a very narrow window

0:28:02.560 --> 0:28:08.359
<v Speaker 9>of opportunity, where Iran's two main tentacles, Hamas and Chrisbala,

0:28:09.080 --> 0:28:14.400
<v Speaker 9>which could have defended Iran or retaliated. Right now, these

0:28:14.480 --> 0:28:19.119
<v Speaker 9>two arms are neutralized. They're almost entirely paralyzed. So Iran

0:28:20.200 --> 0:28:23.600
<v Speaker 9>is laid open, and now is the exact time that

0:28:23.760 --> 0:28:27.320
<v Speaker 9>we must attack. We must take out the nuclear program

0:28:27.480 --> 0:28:31.880
<v Speaker 9>or at least severely damage it. They already have accumulated

0:28:32.960 --> 0:28:39.000
<v Speaker 9>enough enriched uranium for ten nuclear bombs. If not now, when,

0:28:39.480 --> 0:28:42.240
<v Speaker 9>If we don't do it now, I don't see anyone

0:28:42.280 --> 0:28:44.239
<v Speaker 9>will ever take care of it, and we'll wake up

0:28:44.720 --> 0:28:47.200
<v Speaker 9>to nuclear nightmare in the Middle East.

0:28:50.000 --> 0:28:54.640
<v Speaker 1>Noughteralie Bennett. You've clearly got very strong and precise views

0:28:54.760 --> 0:28:57.760
<v Speaker 1>on what needs to be done now in Israel's interests.

0:28:58.040 --> 0:29:00.960
<v Speaker 1>It has been reported that you're considering forming a new

0:29:01.240 --> 0:29:04.280
<v Speaker 1>political party, and that perhaps you have ambitions to be

0:29:04.400 --> 0:29:06.920
<v Speaker 1>Prime minister again. What can you tell me about this?

0:29:09.000 --> 0:29:12.120
<v Speaker 9>My only ambition is for the Jewish state, for the

0:29:12.240 --> 0:29:16.360
<v Speaker 9>only Jewish state in the world, Israel, to be strong,

0:29:16.600 --> 0:29:20.960
<v Speaker 9>to prosper, and I'll do anything necessary to help that.

0:29:22.080 --> 0:29:27.440
<v Speaker 9>I think everyone understands that Israel has a remarkable nation.

0:29:28.480 --> 0:29:32.560
<v Speaker 9>It lacks in the quality of its leadership. It's going

0:29:32.600 --> 0:29:36.120
<v Speaker 9>to need to change. That's clear to everyone. If and

0:29:36.240 --> 0:29:38.920
<v Speaker 9>when I'll join, I'll certainly let you know.

0:29:41.520 --> 0:29:43.120
<v Speaker 1>Do you think you could be the man for the job?

0:29:44.960 --> 0:29:48.280
<v Speaker 9>As I said, if and when I'll have any decision

0:29:48.520 --> 0:29:51.640
<v Speaker 9>on this, I'll let you know. As I also said,

0:29:51.720 --> 0:29:56.560
<v Speaker 9>I'll be and do anything necessary to help my country

0:29:56.800 --> 0:29:58.880
<v Speaker 9>at a terrible, terrible moment.

0:30:01.960 --> 0:30:05.600
<v Speaker 1>It is indeed, Naftali Bannett, I really appreciate your time

0:30:05.840 --> 0:30:07.720
<v Speaker 1>on this momentous day.

0:30:07.880 --> 0:30:09.600
<v Speaker 9>Thank you, Thank you.

0:30:11.960 --> 0:30:14.440
<v Speaker 1>All right. Plenty more to come. The harrowing story of

0:30:14.520 --> 0:30:17.320
<v Speaker 1>a former hostage. She tells me what it's like to

0:30:17.400 --> 0:30:21.120
<v Speaker 1>be held captive deep in the her Musk tunnels in Gaza.

0:30:21.160 --> 0:30:26.080
<v Speaker 1>It's a powerful interview. Plus those disgraceful protests, even Hezblah

0:30:26.320 --> 0:30:29.880
<v Speaker 1>has applauded the pro Palestinian rallies. That tells you everything

0:30:30.200 --> 0:30:32.239
<v Speaker 1>that's wrong with them. I'm going to talk about all

0:30:32.280 --> 0:30:38.480
<v Speaker 1>of this after this quick break. Welcome back.

0:30:38.680 --> 0:30:38.840
<v Speaker 3>Well.

0:30:38.960 --> 0:30:43.160
<v Speaker 1>I spoke with a remarkable, inspiring woman, Aviva Siegel. She

0:30:43.520 --> 0:30:47.320
<v Speaker 1>was a former hostage in Gaza. She's lived to bear

0:30:47.440 --> 0:30:52.320
<v Speaker 1>witness to horrific crimes. Here is that interview and a warning.

0:30:52.720 --> 0:30:56.280
<v Speaker 1>Her story is confronting, but it's a story that you

0:30:56.520 --> 0:31:02.320
<v Speaker 1>must hear. Aviva. A year you were kidnapped from your

0:31:02.400 --> 0:31:05.400
<v Speaker 1>home at the kiboardzkathar Aza by terrorists.

0:31:05.560 --> 0:31:12.240
<v Speaker 4>What happened? Can you believe that somebody in the pajamas

0:31:12.320 --> 0:31:16.320
<v Speaker 4>in bed would be taken to Gaza? Because they's told

0:31:16.360 --> 0:31:21.800
<v Speaker 4>for me to understand and believe Keith and I'm sixty

0:31:21.840 --> 0:31:25.400
<v Speaker 4>three and Keith is sixty five years old American citizens,

0:31:25.920 --> 0:31:28.280
<v Speaker 4>and we were just taken from a house in such

0:31:28.320 --> 0:31:31.320
<v Speaker 4>a brutal way. On the way, they pushed Keith and

0:31:31.400 --> 0:31:34.760
<v Speaker 4>broke his ribs and shot us. I remember seeing the

0:31:35.400 --> 0:31:39.240
<v Speaker 4>bullets coming very close to my foot. I'm lucky, but

0:31:39.400 --> 0:31:42.080
<v Speaker 4>they shot Keith on his hand. So we arrived in

0:31:42.200 --> 0:31:46.120
<v Speaker 4>Gaza while Keith was bleeding and he was in such pain.

0:31:51.400 --> 0:31:54.640
<v Speaker 4>And I just didn't even know what my name was

0:31:54.720 --> 0:31:58.040
<v Speaker 4>when I was there because I was just so scared

0:31:58.280 --> 0:32:02.160
<v Speaker 4>of everything. Everything was done in such a brutal way,

0:32:03.080 --> 0:32:07.240
<v Speaker 4>and we older people, so they were in our little

0:32:07.280 --> 0:32:09.800
<v Speaker 4>shelter while they tried to kill us with their bombs,

0:32:10.560 --> 0:32:12.840
<v Speaker 4>and there was bombs that were coming and coming and coming,

0:32:13.400 --> 0:32:15.640
<v Speaker 4>and I was shaking, and Kith was trying to relax

0:32:15.760 --> 0:32:18.240
<v Speaker 4>me and calm me down and saying, you're say for Viver,

0:32:18.480 --> 0:32:21.480
<v Speaker 4>you're in the shelter, but we weren't. They just opened

0:32:21.520 --> 0:32:25.240
<v Speaker 4>the door, they shut her house, and I remember them

0:32:25.440 --> 0:32:29.960
<v Speaker 4>walking inside my house, opening the door and just pulling

0:32:30.080 --> 0:32:30.400
<v Speaker 4>us out.

0:32:31.360 --> 0:32:35.640
<v Speaker 1>When you arrived in Gaza's hostages, there were celebrations on

0:32:35.680 --> 0:32:36.160
<v Speaker 1>the streets.

0:32:37.440 --> 0:32:42.200
<v Speaker 4>There was you know, mothers with babies, older people with sticks,

0:32:42.440 --> 0:32:45.160
<v Speaker 4>the whole family, every age that you can think about it.

0:32:45.280 --> 0:32:47.520
<v Speaker 4>They were so happy. It was like a party for them.

0:32:47.880 --> 0:32:51.160
<v Speaker 4>While Kit and I were shaking and just wanted to

0:32:51.240 --> 0:32:54.400
<v Speaker 4>scream and cry and did not understand what are we

0:32:54.520 --> 0:32:55.480
<v Speaker 4>doing there? In Gaza.

0:32:56.040 --> 0:32:59.440
<v Speaker 1>Now you were moved around a lot in Gaza, thirteen

0:32:59.480 --> 0:33:02.760
<v Speaker 1>different lives occasions. Can you tell me about how you

0:33:02.840 --> 0:33:05.040
<v Speaker 1>were treated while you were held hostage?

0:33:06.000 --> 0:33:09.320
<v Speaker 4>We were treated all the time in such a brutal way.

0:33:09.440 --> 0:33:13.280
<v Speaker 4>They starved us and ate in front of us. They

0:33:13.360 --> 0:33:17.040
<v Speaker 4>didn't give us water while they drank. One of the times,

0:33:17.120 --> 0:33:20.560
<v Speaker 4>Kit begged them, begged them for so many times, and

0:33:20.640 --> 0:33:23.240
<v Speaker 4>then I said to Kith, can you beg just once more,

0:33:23.880 --> 0:33:26.200
<v Speaker 4>just once more? And he took the bottle and hold

0:33:26.240 --> 0:33:29.800
<v Speaker 4>the bottle and hold it until he brought us water.

0:33:30.240 --> 0:33:31.920
<v Speaker 4>And then when it did bring us the water, it

0:33:32.040 --> 0:33:36.160
<v Speaker 4>brought the bottle and threw at us. The conditions were

0:33:36.200 --> 0:33:39.440
<v Speaker 4>the worst conditions that you can think about. I just

0:33:39.760 --> 0:33:42.360
<v Speaker 4>thought that I'm going to die, that kid's gonna die.

0:33:42.680 --> 0:33:44.840
<v Speaker 4>What will happen if Keith will be in the bathroom

0:33:44.880 --> 0:33:48.200
<v Speaker 4>and I'll die, or what will happen if the ceiling

0:33:48.320 --> 0:33:51.200
<v Speaker 4>falls on us and if they shoot us, or if

0:33:51.200 --> 0:33:54.160
<v Speaker 4>they're going to starve us again. And I want to

0:33:54.240 --> 0:33:58.080
<v Speaker 4>tell you that the hostages, they have been there for

0:33:58.200 --> 0:34:01.680
<v Speaker 4>a year. I was there for fifty one days, and

0:34:01.760 --> 0:34:03.200
<v Speaker 4>I know exactly what they're going through.

0:34:03.320 --> 0:34:06.520
<v Speaker 1>Your husband Keith is still there now, still suffering.

0:34:07.200 --> 0:34:10.040
<v Speaker 4>He's lying on a forty dirty mattress, just like a

0:34:10.160 --> 0:34:13.200
<v Speaker 4>rug with no human rights. We weren't allowed to move,

0:34:14.360 --> 0:34:17.320
<v Speaker 4>I wasn't even allowed to cry. And just think about it,

0:34:18.080 --> 0:34:20.880
<v Speaker 4>when in such a brutal way tortured my husband that

0:34:20.960 --> 0:34:23.439
<v Speaker 4>I've been married to for forty five years, I wanted

0:34:23.520 --> 0:34:26.839
<v Speaker 4>to scream and cry, and I wasn't allowed to cry

0:34:27.040 --> 0:34:30.359
<v Speaker 4>or scream. I just had to keep myself quiet. When

0:34:30.440 --> 0:34:33.640
<v Speaker 4>I looked at the girl that came back.

0:34:33.760 --> 0:34:36.719
<v Speaker 1>And she was shaking, she was taken to the next room.

0:34:36.840 --> 0:34:39.080
<v Speaker 4>She was taken to the next room. I got up

0:34:39.120 --> 0:34:41.359
<v Speaker 4>and gave her a hug because I felt like a mother.

0:34:42.719 --> 0:34:46.279
<v Speaker 4>And while I did that, I got screamed at. And

0:34:46.400 --> 0:34:49.320
<v Speaker 4>after a couple of hours she told us you touched me,

0:34:50.160 --> 0:34:53.400
<v Speaker 4>and you know, just a couple of days ago. I

0:34:53.560 --> 0:34:56.960
<v Speaker 4>just remembered how brave she was after that happened, because

0:34:57.400 --> 0:35:00.279
<v Speaker 4>if somebody would do that to me, I would scream him.

0:35:00.560 --> 0:35:04.680
<v Speaker 4>I would try and kill him. But she continued to

0:35:04.840 --> 0:35:07.480
<v Speaker 4>smile to him to show him that everything's okay, because

0:35:07.520 --> 0:35:11.480
<v Speaker 4>he threatened her that if he's if she'll ever tell anybody,

0:35:12.120 --> 0:35:13.000
<v Speaker 4>then he's going to kill her.

0:35:14.000 --> 0:35:16.720
<v Speaker 1>You know, this is a very difficult thing to talk about,

0:35:16.880 --> 0:35:21.120
<v Speaker 1>but you were at various times with young girls and

0:35:21.800 --> 0:35:26.680
<v Speaker 1>the issue of sexual violence, whether they were pregnant was

0:35:26.719 --> 0:35:29.120
<v Speaker 1>a live question. What can you tell me about that?

0:35:30.200 --> 0:35:32.880
<v Speaker 4>I know for sure that Keith told the girls not

0:35:32.960 --> 0:35:36.080
<v Speaker 4>to tell me everything because I'm very sensitive, and the

0:35:36.200 --> 0:35:40.080
<v Speaker 4>girls did not stop talking about the periods, and I'm

0:35:40.160 --> 0:35:44.239
<v Speaker 4>just so scared to think about them falling pregnant. And

0:35:44.400 --> 0:35:48.760
<v Speaker 4>I do know that they are now underneath the ground

0:35:49.280 --> 0:35:51.680
<v Speaker 4>and just waiting to be the next one to be raped,

0:35:52.560 --> 0:35:55.800
<v Speaker 4>or to be touched, or to be starved, or to

0:35:55.880 --> 0:35:59.800
<v Speaker 4>be hit hidden or beaten up to pieces. Because that

0:36:00.280 --> 0:36:02.680
<v Speaker 4>exactly what happened while I was there for the fifty

0:36:02.719 --> 0:36:03.160
<v Speaker 4>one days.

0:36:03.520 --> 0:36:06.879
<v Speaker 1>For it some time you were moved from civilian house

0:36:06.920 --> 0:36:10.160
<v Speaker 1>to civilian house, but you and Keith were also held

0:36:10.400 --> 0:36:14.399
<v Speaker 1>underground in the tunnels. What was it like under there

0:36:15.160 --> 0:36:18.600
<v Speaker 1>in these dark tunnels, so far away from reality and sunlight.

0:36:19.120 --> 0:36:22.879
<v Speaker 4>Yes, And then you come to a house and there's

0:36:22.920 --> 0:36:26.960
<v Speaker 4>somebody at the bottom of the ground smiling and happy

0:36:27.239 --> 0:36:29.360
<v Speaker 4>while you're shaking, and you have to go down. You

0:36:29.520 --> 0:36:32.520
<v Speaker 4>just have to go down. I shaked with the ladder

0:36:32.680 --> 0:36:37.000
<v Speaker 4>going down, and they took Keith and I underneath the ground,

0:36:37.160 --> 0:36:41.920
<v Speaker 4>fourteen meters underneath the ground, and going down we could

0:36:41.960 --> 0:36:44.840
<v Speaker 4>feel that there was no oxygen. We arrived a little

0:36:45.120 --> 0:36:49.360
<v Speaker 4>arch that's open, small, the three of us, Keith and

0:36:49.440 --> 0:36:54.000
<v Speaker 4>I and somebody else, and we just tried to figure

0:36:54.040 --> 0:36:57.000
<v Speaker 4>out if we're going to live or not. We had

0:36:57.040 --> 0:37:00.360
<v Speaker 4>to lie down on the mattress on the floor. And

0:37:00.520 --> 0:37:02.279
<v Speaker 4>one of the times kids said that he feels that

0:37:02.360 --> 0:37:07.120
<v Speaker 4>he cannot breathe, and he was like this, and you know,

0:37:08.400 --> 0:37:11.680
<v Speaker 4>it's hard to explain in words what the meaning means

0:37:11.800 --> 0:37:14.680
<v Speaker 4>by trying to figure out if there's gonna be optionen

0:37:14.840 --> 0:37:17.080
<v Speaker 4>for you or if you're gonna live. But it's the

0:37:17.200 --> 0:37:19.879
<v Speaker 4>worst feeling in earth for me to look at Keith

0:37:19.960 --> 0:37:22.920
<v Speaker 4>that he can hardly breathe and think, maybe kittle die

0:37:22.960 --> 0:37:23.880
<v Speaker 4>in front of my eyes.

0:37:24.160 --> 0:37:26.520
<v Speaker 1>Well, how do you live every day? How do you

0:37:26.640 --> 0:37:30.680
<v Speaker 1>cope with the knowledge that your your beloved, precious husband, Keith,

0:37:31.280 --> 0:37:34.600
<v Speaker 1>and some of the girls that you met and hugged

0:37:34.640 --> 0:37:38.239
<v Speaker 1>and were like a mother to are still there underground

0:37:38.320 --> 0:37:38.760
<v Speaker 1>in Gaza.

0:37:38.920 --> 0:37:41.920
<v Speaker 4>The worst thing, you know, the worst thing, the worst

0:37:41.960 --> 0:37:45.000
<v Speaker 4>thing for me. There wasn't they when they tortured Keith

0:37:45.040 --> 0:37:47.560
<v Speaker 4>and the girls, and I wanted to scream, but I

0:37:47.640 --> 0:37:50.479
<v Speaker 4>couldn't tend to keep quiet. We weren't allowed to feel.

0:37:51.280 --> 0:37:53.480
<v Speaker 4>I had to hide myself crying. I had to put

0:37:53.520 --> 0:37:56.279
<v Speaker 4>my hand on my on my eyes, just like lit

0:37:56.400 --> 0:38:00.279
<v Speaker 4>some good down on the mattress on the floor, because

0:38:00.280 --> 0:38:02.280
<v Speaker 4>we weren't allowed to feel while I wanted to scream.

0:38:03.160 --> 0:38:05.560
<v Speaker 4>One of the times they took one of the girls

0:38:05.840 --> 0:38:08.400
<v Speaker 4>and they put a blanket over her and handcuffed her

0:38:09.000 --> 0:38:11.759
<v Speaker 4>and they bittered it up into pieces, and when she

0:38:11.920 --> 0:38:15.040
<v Speaker 4>came back, she was shaking and crying. And I couldn't

0:38:15.040 --> 0:38:18.520
<v Speaker 4>even hunger cause I wasn't allowed to. And I felt

0:38:18.600 --> 0:38:21.879
<v Speaker 4>like a mother. So sorry, have you either?

0:38:22.600 --> 0:38:23.320
<v Speaker 3>I'm so sorry.

0:38:28.200 --> 0:38:31.880
<v Speaker 1>So on this one year anniversary, Now, what do you

0:38:32.000 --> 0:38:35.120
<v Speaker 1>wanna see happen? You've met US President Joe Biden twice,

0:38:35.200 --> 0:38:38.239
<v Speaker 1>You've met Anthony B. Lincoln several times. You've met to

0:38:38.320 --> 0:38:40.640
<v Speaker 1>the Prime Minister here and is for our Benjaminette and Yahoo,

0:38:41.160 --> 0:38:43.360
<v Speaker 1>w what do you want to happen? How do you

0:38:43.440 --> 0:38:45.120
<v Speaker 1>think the hostages would be released?

0:38:45.640 --> 0:38:49.479
<v Speaker 4>I want everybody to listen to my words. They aren't

0:38:49.600 --> 0:38:52.160
<v Speaker 4>just words, It's what I went through and what the

0:38:52.239 --> 0:38:56.040
<v Speaker 4>hostages are going through. They cannot allow themselves to open

0:38:56.120 --> 0:38:58.560
<v Speaker 4>the door in the stomach and then close it when

0:38:58.640 --> 0:39:00.880
<v Speaker 4>I when I stop talking. They need to open their

0:39:00.920 --> 0:39:04.880
<v Speaker 4>hearts and understand that these are people that are feeling,

0:39:05.480 --> 0:39:08.640
<v Speaker 4>and these people that are dying slowly, and we cannot

0:39:08.640 --> 0:39:12.839
<v Speaker 4>allow ourselves keeping quiet while there's people there that don't

0:39:12.880 --> 0:39:15.200
<v Speaker 4>get their metsine that are dying slowly.

0:39:15.640 --> 0:39:18.520
<v Speaker 1>The international community seems to be ignoring the hostages.

0:39:19.200 --> 0:39:23.319
<v Speaker 4>It's terrible. It's the worst cruelest thing that anybody can

0:39:23.400 --> 0:39:27.000
<v Speaker 4>go through, being underneath the ground for a year with

0:39:27.160 --> 0:39:30.640
<v Speaker 4>no oxygen and feeling that you're going to die because

0:39:30.640 --> 0:39:34.560
<v Speaker 4>they just are going to kill you by not taking

0:39:34.600 --> 0:39:37.880
<v Speaker 4>care of you of any of your needs. I just

0:39:37.960 --> 0:39:40.320
<v Speaker 4>want to say that Keith and are peacemakers, and we

0:39:40.400 --> 0:39:42.239
<v Speaker 4>want good for the whole world and for all the

0:39:42.280 --> 0:39:46.360
<v Speaker 4>good people, and I want that everybody that thinks that

0:39:46.520 --> 0:39:49.879
<v Speaker 4>we're doing to harm us is really really bad. Rather

0:39:50.320 --> 0:39:52.879
<v Speaker 4>stand up and shout for the people that live there

0:39:53.440 --> 0:39:55.719
<v Speaker 4>because they need to go back to their lives. Then

0:39:55.800 --> 0:39:58.600
<v Speaker 4>mothers are having babies intents and that should not be.

0:39:59.440 --> 0:40:02.120
<v Speaker 4>It shouldn't like that. And the older people and the

0:40:02.239 --> 0:40:07.480
<v Speaker 4>worst thing is to leave Gostjesday underneath the ground to disload.

0:40:07.840 --> 0:40:18.120
<v Speaker 1>No one can be left behind, not one person. Isn't

0:40:18.160 --> 0:40:21.960
<v Speaker 1>she an amazing woman? A Viva Siegel Well still to come?

0:40:22.200 --> 0:40:25.960
<v Speaker 1>Hesbella praises the pro Palestinian rallies in Australia and that

0:40:26.080 --> 0:40:29.040
<v Speaker 1>tells you everything you need to know about how morally

0:40:29.280 --> 0:40:31.920
<v Speaker 1>repulsive they are. I'm going to talk about that with

0:40:32.040 --> 0:40:34.880
<v Speaker 1>my panel and then later in the show an October

0:40:34.960 --> 0:40:38.640
<v Speaker 1>seven hero who saved hundreds of lives from her musk.

0:40:38.880 --> 0:40:41.759
<v Speaker 1>He'll be with me here live in Jerusalem, so don't

0:40:41.920 --> 0:40:48.640
<v Speaker 1>go away. There's a heavy police presence in both Sydney

0:40:48.760 --> 0:40:53.680
<v Speaker 1>and Melbourne tonight as pro Palestinian events unfold. One protest

0:40:53.880 --> 0:40:59.200
<v Speaker 1>organized by the extremist Islamic group his Bookteria in southwestern Sydney,

0:40:59.480 --> 0:41:03.799
<v Speaker 1>where are gathered outside La Kember Mosque. Well, let's bring

0:41:03.880 --> 0:41:05.960
<v Speaker 1>in now former chief of staff to Bill Shott and

0:41:06.040 --> 0:41:10.399
<v Speaker 1>Cameron Milner and Sky News' host Steve Price. Cameron, how

0:41:10.600 --> 0:41:14.919
<v Speaker 1>disgraceful are these protests? Why can't they pick any other day,

0:41:15.160 --> 0:41:18.000
<v Speaker 1>not the day of the massacre of Jews?

0:41:20.120 --> 0:41:22.560
<v Speaker 10>Well, isn't it an absolute disgrace? Because today it was

0:41:22.719 --> 0:41:25.360
<v Speaker 10>only ever, only ever about the twelve hundred victims and

0:41:25.400 --> 0:41:27.600
<v Speaker 10>one hundred and one hostages are still kept by Hamas.

0:41:27.840 --> 0:41:30.880
<v Speaker 10>It was a day to reflect on the awful circumstance

0:41:31.040 --> 0:41:33.640
<v Speaker 10>of the greatest loss of life since the Holocaust, Chari.

0:41:33.880 --> 0:41:35.880
<v Speaker 10>That's what today should have been about. But instead these

0:41:35.960 --> 0:41:38.960
<v Speaker 10>horrible protests is made about themselves and the politicians let

0:41:39.040 --> 0:41:41.279
<v Speaker 10>them slide. The police and the politicians let them.

0:41:41.200 --> 0:41:42.680
<v Speaker 3>Have them their day, their day.

0:41:42.880 --> 0:41:45.040
<v Speaker 10>No, this should have only been about Israel, and only

0:41:45.080 --> 0:41:48.640
<v Speaker 10>about Israel's absolute right self defense and Jewish Australians feeling

0:41:48.680 --> 0:41:50.560
<v Speaker 10>safe in their own community. That's what today should have

0:41:50.560 --> 0:41:53.680
<v Speaker 10>been about. And the fact that HESBLA could actually congratulate

0:41:53.760 --> 0:41:56.240
<v Speaker 10>those people on the streets today just shows how awful

0:41:56.600 --> 0:41:58.640
<v Speaker 10>and how divided our society has become.

0:42:01.280 --> 0:42:04.680
<v Speaker 1>One hundred percent, Steve, what do you think? I think

0:42:04.880 --> 0:42:07.520
<v Speaker 1>law enforcement wasn't strong enough here. They could have shut

0:42:07.560 --> 0:42:10.680
<v Speaker 1>these protests down. They did during the COVID pandemic. But

0:42:10.800 --> 0:42:11.399
<v Speaker 1>they don't care.

0:42:13.800 --> 0:42:15.759
<v Speaker 11>No, they haven't, And I'm going to update you on

0:42:15.840 --> 0:42:19.680
<v Speaker 11>what's actually just unfolded. Shake Shakawi at Lakember has called

0:42:19.719 --> 0:42:23.440
<v Speaker 11>October seven a day of resistance. His but to here

0:42:23.560 --> 0:42:26.000
<v Speaker 11>as you said, have turned out. But in Melbourne it

0:42:26.080 --> 0:42:30.440
<v Speaker 11>even gets worse, Cameron and Shari, where you've had six

0:42:30.760 --> 0:42:35.359
<v Speaker 11>baby carriages or prams draped in head scarfs pushed through

0:42:35.360 --> 0:42:39.160
<v Speaker 11>the streets of Melbourne and fake stretches with fake dead

0:42:39.239 --> 0:42:41.600
<v Speaker 11>people on them being carried through the streets as well

0:42:42.440 --> 0:42:47.239
<v Speaker 11>under Palestinian banners. So the whole thing, as Cameron has said,

0:42:47.280 --> 0:42:49.600
<v Speaker 11>and you've said, Schari over and over this day is

0:42:49.680 --> 0:42:53.480
<v Speaker 11>not about that. October seven was about a terrorist attack

0:42:53.800 --> 0:42:56.600
<v Speaker 11>on Israel and here we have in Australia. And I

0:42:56.680 --> 0:42:59.120
<v Speaker 11>didn't think i'd ever lived to see this, the worst

0:42:59.160 --> 0:43:02.319
<v Speaker 11>cases of anti Semitism that I've ever seen in my life.

0:43:02.360 --> 0:43:07.880
<v Speaker 1>It's just horrenders, it really is. And it's in part

0:43:08.080 --> 0:43:12.280
<v Speaker 1>because we've had a total failure of political leadership. Cameron,

0:43:12.480 --> 0:43:15.680
<v Speaker 1>how do you think the Prime Minister, compared to Peter

0:43:15.800 --> 0:43:19.960
<v Speaker 1>Dutton has handled this antisemitism crisis over the past year.

0:43:22.120 --> 0:43:24.640
<v Speaker 10>Well, Peter Dutton got a standing ovation tonight in Sydney

0:43:24.680 --> 0:43:26.879
<v Speaker 10>for what he'd said, and he's stopped for Israel today

0:43:26.920 --> 0:43:28.879
<v Speaker 10>and what he said, and what we got from from

0:43:28.920 --> 0:43:32.200
<v Speaker 10>the premise was just more weathel words, more, weathel words more,

0:43:32.239 --> 0:43:35.560
<v Speaker 10>influenced from Wong talking about restraint Bert not doing anything.

0:43:35.920 --> 0:43:38.480
<v Speaker 10>Labour's got a real problem here, Shari, a real problem

0:43:38.719 --> 0:43:42.839
<v Speaker 10>and it's endemic, systemic under Albanize. This weakness and it's

0:43:42.920 --> 0:43:46.640
<v Speaker 10>let the extremists, the Islamic extremists flourished Australia. That's why

0:43:46.680 --> 0:43:49.400
<v Speaker 10>we have these horrible protests like Epster tonight, Steve. That's

0:43:49.440 --> 0:43:51.240
<v Speaker 10>why they think they can get away with it because

0:43:51.280 --> 0:43:54.799
<v Speaker 10>Albo is so weak. But Labor needs to be better.

0:43:54.880 --> 0:43:57.319
<v Speaker 10>And Chris Min's and Jacindra Allan' sw up today which

0:43:57.320 --> 0:43:59.560
<v Speaker 10>was great. So it's not Labor, it's an albow problem.

0:44:00.000 --> 0:44:04.719
<v Speaker 1>Sorry, yeah, one hundred percent, Steve, twenty seconds. What do

0:44:04.760 --> 0:44:05.080
<v Speaker 1>you think?

0:44:07.640 --> 0:44:10.319
<v Speaker 11>Cameron's absolutely right? Just send her Alan though she's been

0:44:10.360 --> 0:44:13.480
<v Speaker 11>as bad as what Albernizi has been as well. If

0:44:13.520 --> 0:44:16.640
<v Speaker 11>you don't have strong leadership about these issues, you're going

0:44:16.719 --> 0:44:19.080
<v Speaker 11>to see what you're seeing on the streets tonight. Every

0:44:19.120 --> 0:44:22.799
<v Speaker 11>Australian who's witnessing this should look at it, shake their

0:44:22.840 --> 0:44:26.239
<v Speaker 11>head and complain about it loudly to whoever wants to listen.

0:44:29.360 --> 0:44:33.120
<v Speaker 1>Steve Price, Cameron Milner, thank you both for your leadership

0:44:33.200 --> 0:44:36.279
<v Speaker 1>and strength on this now coming up after the break

0:44:36.600 --> 0:44:40.120
<v Speaker 1>among the horror on October seven, there were heroes, and

0:44:40.160 --> 0:44:42.439
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to be joined by one of them live

0:44:42.520 --> 0:44:45.880
<v Speaker 1>in Jerusalem. Next. He put his life on the line

0:44:46.200 --> 0:44:50.520
<v Speaker 1>to save hundreds of Israelis. That interview after this quick break,

0:44:54.040 --> 0:44:57.320
<v Speaker 1>welcome back. Well, I'm joined now by Israeli major Officer

0:44:57.440 --> 0:45:00.200
<v Speaker 1>Nimrod Palmach Nimbrod to thank you so much. Thanks for

0:45:00.239 --> 0:45:03.840
<v Speaker 1>joining us here in Jerusalem. Now on October seven, you

0:45:04.000 --> 0:45:07.840
<v Speaker 1>were given orders to come here. You defied them because

0:45:07.880 --> 0:45:10.160
<v Speaker 1>you heard what was going on down south. Tell me

0:45:10.239 --> 0:45:10.760
<v Speaker 1>what happened.

0:45:11.239 --> 0:45:13.239
<v Speaker 12>Ever since I was a kid, I used to listen

0:45:13.320 --> 0:45:15.439
<v Speaker 12>to my heart, and also on October seven, I listened

0:45:15.480 --> 0:45:18.560
<v Speaker 12>to my heart. I had the sense that something terrible

0:45:18.680 --> 0:45:21.120
<v Speaker 12>is happening down south, and I traveled all by myself.

0:45:21.600 --> 0:45:24.920
<v Speaker 12>I carried only my pistol with me, and I discovered

0:45:25.000 --> 0:45:27.520
<v Speaker 12>what happened there as I went. I had a chance

0:45:27.560 --> 0:45:29.879
<v Speaker 12>to stop for a couple of minutes where I left

0:45:29.920 --> 0:45:32.520
<v Speaker 12>a video, a goodbye video for my kids, realizing I'm

0:45:32.520 --> 0:45:35.439
<v Speaker 12>about to die. From that moment and on I was free,

0:45:35.880 --> 0:45:38.160
<v Speaker 12>and I just went ahead and got into a fight

0:45:38.200 --> 0:45:39.720
<v Speaker 12>with terrorists in order to save people.

0:45:40.239 --> 0:45:42.600
<v Speaker 1>How many people, did you say a year ago today?

0:45:43.040 --> 0:45:45.200
<v Speaker 12>So a few guys that I met their Israeli's. We

0:45:45.360 --> 0:45:48.840
<v Speaker 12>fought against approximately forty Hamas tourists and we saved the

0:45:48.880 --> 0:45:50.440
<v Speaker 12>community called kibutsal Umm.

0:45:50.840 --> 0:45:52.560
<v Speaker 3>Around five hundred people lived there.

0:45:53.080 --> 0:45:56.000
<v Speaker 12>No one Israeli died in this community because we got

0:45:56.040 --> 0:45:59.400
<v Speaker 12>there in time and we were able to fight haramasof.

0:45:59.000 --> 0:46:03.120
<v Speaker 1>Wow, that is a Now you were actually shot in

0:46:03.239 --> 0:46:07.120
<v Speaker 1>your chest. Yeah, during the battle with the mass terrorists.

0:46:07.600 --> 0:46:09.080
<v Speaker 3>Nothing prepared me to this day.

0:46:09.160 --> 0:46:11.719
<v Speaker 12>I took a weapon from a dead soldier, I took

0:46:11.960 --> 0:46:14.920
<v Speaker 12>a body armor from a wounded soldier, and in the

0:46:15.000 --> 0:46:17.440
<v Speaker 12>fight from seven meters I got shot in the chess

0:46:17.480 --> 0:46:21.759
<v Speaker 12>from a terrorist. Luckily I could continue on. We killed

0:46:21.760 --> 0:46:24.040
<v Speaker 12>the dollist and we managed to not only finish this

0:46:24.200 --> 0:46:26.800
<v Speaker 12>fight of Kibutz Alumin, but also to be one of

0:46:26.840 --> 0:46:28.640
<v Speaker 12>the liberators of Kibutzberri.

0:46:29.600 --> 0:46:32.920
<v Speaker 1>It's incredible, you know, I think you being one of

0:46:32.960 --> 0:46:35.279
<v Speaker 1>the people who just turned around and went in to

0:46:35.400 --> 0:46:38.960
<v Speaker 1>protect communities, mean you saved well five hundred lives that day.

0:46:39.239 --> 0:46:39.920
<v Speaker 4>It's amazing.

0:46:40.440 --> 0:46:43.719
<v Speaker 1>Now you're now sharing the story the horrors of what

0:46:44.000 --> 0:46:48.040
<v Speaker 1>happened with this virtual reality program. It's called Survived to

0:46:48.200 --> 0:46:50.560
<v Speaker 1>tell be the witness. Kid, can you tell me how

0:46:50.600 --> 0:46:51.040
<v Speaker 1>it works.

0:46:51.360 --> 0:46:52.680
<v Speaker 9>I'm a CEO of Israelis.

0:46:52.760 --> 0:46:55.080
<v Speaker 12>It's an NGO that tried to improve Israel image in

0:46:55.120 --> 0:46:58.080
<v Speaker 12>the world throughout the fighting on October seven, I held

0:46:58.200 --> 0:46:59.920
<v Speaker 12>with one end a machine gun and with the other

0:47:00.520 --> 0:47:03.200
<v Speaker 12>my iPhone and I recorded. I documented what I saw

0:47:03.280 --> 0:47:06.040
<v Speaker 12>because I knew that the world would renounce and.

0:47:06.040 --> 0:47:07.919
<v Speaker 9>The world will try to say it was lies.

0:47:08.360 --> 0:47:12.759
<v Speaker 12>It never happened, and unfortunately I saw everything in Kibbutzberry.

0:47:12.800 --> 0:47:15.280
<v Speaker 12>I decided I want to bring this to us campuses,

0:47:15.800 --> 0:47:19.359
<v Speaker 12>to have students watching it and as if they're really

0:47:19.480 --> 0:47:22.719
<v Speaker 12>there in the Nova festival, in the Kibutzim. And now

0:47:22.760 --> 0:47:26.000
<v Speaker 12>we can dialogue. Now we can create a conversation. We

0:47:26.160 --> 0:47:29.439
<v Speaker 12>already met proximately ten thousand students around the world. Wow,

0:47:29.680 --> 0:47:31.920
<v Speaker 12>and we are aiming to get to five hundred campuses

0:47:32.000 --> 0:47:33.240
<v Speaker 12>next year in America alone.

0:47:33.640 --> 0:47:36.839
<v Speaker 1>This is so important. So those students that we've seen

0:47:36.880 --> 0:47:39.640
<v Speaker 1>at the campus is the stupid students. They can put

0:47:39.719 --> 0:47:41.759
<v Speaker 1>this on. They can watch a virtual reality of what

0:47:41.920 --> 0:47:44.319
<v Speaker 1>the terrorists were during that day. Because there's a lot

0:47:44.360 --> 0:47:46.040
<v Speaker 1>of HARMSS body camp footage as well.

0:47:46.440 --> 0:47:49.520
<v Speaker 12>So both the recording of Hamas's body camps and also

0:47:49.600 --> 0:47:53.600
<v Speaker 12>testimonies from survivors. But the uniqueness is you're actually there.

0:47:53.680 --> 0:47:57.719
<v Speaker 12>On three sixty you can meet Mazad Tazazzo and she

0:47:57.800 --> 0:47:59.839
<v Speaker 12>can tell you this is the right bush where I hid.

0:48:00.120 --> 0:48:02.160
<v Speaker 12>My best friends were killed in front of me, and

0:48:02.280 --> 0:48:04.880
<v Speaker 12>you will be with her actually at the bush. And

0:48:05.080 --> 0:48:08.360
<v Speaker 12>because there's so much ignorism and hate against Israel in

0:48:08.440 --> 0:48:11.399
<v Speaker 12>those campuses and there are people that nurture this eight,

0:48:11.800 --> 0:48:13.960
<v Speaker 12>we need to fight back and this is the best

0:48:14.000 --> 0:48:17.759
<v Speaker 12>way we found. It's both storytelling and technology, and we

0:48:17.880 --> 0:48:18.680
<v Speaker 12>believe in the power of it.

0:48:19.360 --> 0:48:21.400
<v Speaker 1>You must have been so relieved to be able to

0:48:21.640 --> 0:48:24.160
<v Speaker 1>go back home to your children that night a year ago.

0:48:24.800 --> 0:48:27.759
<v Speaker 12>Sure, I mean for me, my children, my wife, my

0:48:27.840 --> 0:48:31.120
<v Speaker 12>family is everything, and it's like I was reborn. I

0:48:31.200 --> 0:48:34.279
<v Speaker 12>got my life back and it's a gift that I

0:48:34.320 --> 0:48:35.440
<v Speaker 12>will never take for granted.

0:48:35.880 --> 0:48:38.520
<v Speaker 1>Nimrod Palmach, thank you so much for joining me. Really

0:48:38.560 --> 0:48:42.279
<v Speaker 1>appreciate it. Thank you very much. Now, thanks everyone for

0:48:42.520 --> 0:48:46.919
<v Speaker 1>joining me tonight live from Israel from Jerusalem. Don't miss

0:48:47.000 --> 0:48:50.359
<v Speaker 1>tomorrow at eight pm. I've got another big show, more

0:48:50.600 --> 0:48:55.120
<v Speaker 1>incredible stories. Please join me, And right now I'm going

0:48:55.200 --> 0:48:57.719
<v Speaker 1>to hand you over to my very good friend back

0:48:57.800 --> 0:48:59.560
<v Speaker 1>in Australia, Paul Murray.