1 00:00:05,921 --> 00:00:13,161 Speaker 1: Apoja Production. Welcome to the Sheep Risers podcast. I'm Ashi 2 00:00:13,281 --> 00:00:14,081 Speaker 1: and I'm Tiana. 3 00:00:14,361 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 2: This podcast is about female empowerment and encouraging you to 4 00:00:17,361 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 2: be your biggest, boldest, and most authentic version of yourself. 5 00:00:20,961 --> 00:00:23,281 Speaker 1: We'd help you shed the shame, grow to a new level. 6 00:00:23,361 --> 00:00:26,241 Speaker 1: We're gonna laugh, cry, and talk about the topics everyone 7 00:00:26,281 --> 00:00:27,801 Speaker 1: else is too afraid to talk about. 8 00:00:28,401 --> 00:00:30,681 Speaker 2: Get ready for your next level of self. 9 00:00:30,921 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: It's a little bit nervous for this one. Welcome back 10 00:00:33,721 --> 00:00:37,921 Speaker 1: to the podcast. Guys. It's just something I never thought 11 00:00:37,921 --> 00:00:40,041 Speaker 1: I would openly talk about now. I have kind of 12 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:43,161 Speaker 1: mentioned it in a previous one, just like a little bit, 13 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:45,281 Speaker 1: and then it did spread around to a couple of 14 00:00:45,281 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: the gossip pages and the gossip podcasts, but I thought 15 00:00:48,281 --> 00:00:49,961 Speaker 1: quant not talk about it. Yeah, it's a part of 16 00:00:50,001 --> 00:00:52,241 Speaker 1: my past. It's kind of funny now if I look back, 17 00:00:52,721 --> 00:00:54,161 Speaker 1: and it was kind of a fun chapter. 18 00:00:54,361 --> 00:00:54,921 Speaker 2: Yeah. 19 00:00:54,961 --> 00:00:58,081 Speaker 1: But before there was Ashi, before there was Stephanie, there 20 00:00:58,161 --> 00:01:01,481 Speaker 1: was Pam. Why did I come up with that name? 21 00:01:01,561 --> 00:01:06,041 Speaker 1: I have no idea. But when I was I must 22 00:01:06,041 --> 00:01:09,401 Speaker 1: have been fresh eighteen and I'd just broken up with 23 00:01:09,441 --> 00:01:12,761 Speaker 1: my first boyfriend. I went to WA and I became 24 00:01:12,801 --> 00:01:15,961 Speaker 1: a skimpy bar, mate, So what that is. It's out 25 00:01:15,961 --> 00:01:18,481 Speaker 1: in a mining town and you wear a skimpy outfit 26 00:01:18,521 --> 00:01:21,321 Speaker 1: like a costume or lingerie or whatever, and you serve 27 00:01:21,401 --> 00:01:24,121 Speaker 1: beer to the boys of the bar. Yeah, women, and 28 00:01:24,161 --> 00:01:26,761 Speaker 1: you make absolute bank. So you not only get paid 29 00:01:26,801 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: your hourly rate. What happens is you go around with 30 00:01:30,121 --> 00:01:31,961 Speaker 1: a jug. One of the girls is like five girls 31 00:01:31,961 --> 00:01:33,641 Speaker 1: working at a bar or a smaller bar. They might 32 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:35,401 Speaker 1: be less, but I worked mainly in the big bar. 33 00:01:36,241 --> 00:01:38,201 Speaker 1: And no, it's not topless. I'll talk about that later on. 34 00:01:38,481 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: It's the topless bar as well. 35 00:01:39,681 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 2: There. 36 00:01:39,881 --> 00:01:41,601 Speaker 1: But you go around with a jug and all the 37 00:01:41,601 --> 00:01:43,881 Speaker 1: men pop in money like notes, coins, whatever, and the 38 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: jug gets full, and then you take one layer of 39 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,641 Speaker 1: clothing off. So if I was dressed in a little 40 00:01:48,921 --> 00:01:51,401 Speaker 1: fairy outfit and I had like a single top and 41 00:01:51,441 --> 00:01:53,881 Speaker 1: a little fairy skirt and some high socks and some wings, 42 00:01:54,081 --> 00:01:56,521 Speaker 1: I might take my wings, my single top off, and 43 00:01:56,521 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: that of the little crop top underneath. Yes, i might 44 00:01:58,841 --> 00:02:00,921 Speaker 1: take my skirt off, and I've got little cheeky undies 45 00:02:00,961 --> 00:02:03,361 Speaker 1: on and fishnet stockings. Yes, So all the girls have 46 00:02:03,401 --> 00:02:05,281 Speaker 1: to take one layer of clothing off. Yeah, that's what 47 00:02:05,361 --> 00:02:07,001 Speaker 1: you get paid for, yes, you know in the getting 48 00:02:07,041 --> 00:02:08,681 Speaker 1: an hourly rate. But in there then there could be 49 00:02:08,721 --> 00:02:10,201 Speaker 1: like a thousand bucks in the jug and then you 50 00:02:10,201 --> 00:02:13,001 Speaker 1: divide that between the girls. Yes, and over the course 51 00:02:13,041 --> 00:02:14,921 Speaker 1: of like say an eight hour shift, you do that 52 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 1: three or four times, you've made two grand in the night. 53 00:02:17,041 --> 00:02:17,361 Speaker 2: Yeah. 54 00:02:17,441 --> 00:02:21,601 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's wild. And then once a year there's this 55 00:02:21,761 --> 00:02:25,761 Speaker 1: big not festival, this big event that happens in Calgooley 56 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 1: and it's called Diggers and Dealers and it's when all 57 00:02:28,161 --> 00:02:30,801 Speaker 1: the big miners from around the world come to Kolgooley 58 00:02:30,881 --> 00:02:34,761 Speaker 1: and it's absolutely packed. You can't even walk into the bar. 59 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:35,801 Speaker 1: It's shoulder to shoulder. 60 00:02:35,881 --> 00:02:36,121 Speaker 2: Wow. 61 00:02:36,201 --> 00:02:38,041 Speaker 1: So it is the best time for Skimpy by way 62 00:02:38,081 --> 00:02:40,841 Speaker 1: to go and work. I made nineteen thousand dollars in 63 00:02:40,881 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: a twenty hour working week. Wow, nineteen thousand dollars. 64 00:02:44,321 --> 00:02:46,801 Speaker 2: Wow. Wild hay. And it was from just like so 65 00:02:46,881 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 2: many big miners coming in and like they have so 66 00:02:49,201 --> 00:02:49,641 Speaker 2: much money. 67 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:51,881 Speaker 1: Yeah, so like they'll pay for a beer and give 68 00:02:51,881 --> 00:02:54,321 Speaker 1: you one hundred dollar anight. They're really wealthy, and they 69 00:02:54,361 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 1: don't even wait for their change because they just want 70 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 1: to get out there and go have their drinks. So 71 00:02:57,081 --> 00:02:59,481 Speaker 1: just keep the change. All of our jogs. We each 72 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:02,001 Speaker 1: had individual drugs. All of our jugs are just overflowing 73 00:03:02,001 --> 00:03:03,281 Speaker 1: me to go out the back and like pulled when 74 00:03:03,321 --> 00:03:05,721 Speaker 1: at bags and the end of the way, I had 75 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 1: nineteen grain cash. That's crazy at eighteen my wage on 76 00:03:09,161 --> 00:03:10,641 Speaker 1: top of that, yes, which you get paid from the 77 00:03:10,641 --> 00:03:14,201 Speaker 1: bars obviously crazy. Hey, it's wild. So I only did 78 00:03:14,201 --> 00:03:15,841 Speaker 1: that once. I didn't do it for very long because 79 00:03:15,841 --> 00:03:18,641 Speaker 1: I recently met Steve after that, but a couple of 80 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: months I did it. It was fun and it was different, 81 00:03:21,561 --> 00:03:23,481 Speaker 1: and I was nice to get away from the gold coroast. 82 00:03:23,481 --> 00:03:26,321 Speaker 1: And I actually had four really good male friends that 83 00:03:26,361 --> 00:03:27,921 Speaker 1: I knew that worked in Calgary, so I got to 84 00:03:27,921 --> 00:03:30,481 Speaker 1: live with them. The darker side of it, I suppose, 85 00:03:30,601 --> 00:03:32,201 Speaker 1: is if you don't know anyone, a lot of the 86 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:34,601 Speaker 1: girls have to stay in the bars upstairs. Yeah, and 87 00:03:34,641 --> 00:03:36,801 Speaker 1: there definitely was some things that happened to the women 88 00:03:36,921 --> 00:03:40,801 Speaker 1: when men got really drunk and things happened ye unsafe. 89 00:03:40,921 --> 00:03:43,281 Speaker 1: So while I was there, there definitely was a couple 90 00:03:43,281 --> 00:03:45,281 Speaker 1: of things that happened to the other girls. I was 91 00:03:45,361 --> 00:03:47,481 Speaker 1: just very fortunate. I always had one of the boys 92 00:03:47,521 --> 00:03:49,401 Speaker 1: drop me off, picked me up. Most of the time 93 00:03:49,401 --> 00:03:50,961 Speaker 1: there's one of the boys in the bar like whipping 94 00:03:50,921 --> 00:03:52,841 Speaker 1: me out for me, protecting me while they have their drinks. 95 00:03:53,241 --> 00:03:55,761 Speaker 1: I never got treated badly and never got spoken too badly, 96 00:03:56,081 --> 00:03:58,041 Speaker 1: And I think because I've always just been quite good 97 00:03:58,041 --> 00:04:01,041 Speaker 1: with people. I wasn't that flirty bar mate. I was 98 00:04:01,081 --> 00:04:03,281 Speaker 1: their mate. Yes, they didn't see me as someone they're 99 00:04:03,321 --> 00:04:03,801 Speaker 1: going to hit on. 100 00:04:04,081 --> 00:04:06,601 Speaker 2: Yes, they made friends the year like their friend. 101 00:04:06,841 --> 00:04:08,521 Speaker 1: And they also knew that I had a lot of 102 00:04:08,521 --> 00:04:11,121 Speaker 1: male friends there in the bar, so they never would 103 00:04:11,121 --> 00:04:14,041 Speaker 1: try anything because they knew all hell would break loose. Yes, 104 00:04:14,401 --> 00:04:17,361 Speaker 1: there was one time, so I was seeing a man 105 00:04:17,441 --> 00:04:20,081 Speaker 1: down there once and he came and I didn't like 106 00:04:20,161 --> 00:04:21,841 Speaker 1: him coming to the bar because he was quite protective 107 00:04:21,841 --> 00:04:24,041 Speaker 1: and jealous. We were fully dating, but we've kind of 108 00:04:24,041 --> 00:04:26,321 Speaker 1: seen each other for a little bit. And then another 109 00:04:26,401 --> 00:04:29,161 Speaker 1: guy asked me for my number. That caused the biggest 110 00:04:29,161 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: bar fight, and I remember my boss saying, you need 111 00:04:31,121 --> 00:04:32,921 Speaker 1: to tell him not to come in again. Wow, that 112 00:04:33,001 --> 00:04:35,561 Speaker 1: was the only kind of hiccup that I had. There 113 00:04:35,601 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: was always offers to travel to other towns and like 114 00:04:37,681 --> 00:04:39,121 Speaker 1: go work there for a bit, and that was always 115 00:04:39,201 --> 00:04:41,001 Speaker 1: like really big money because you'd be the only bar maid. 116 00:04:41,041 --> 00:04:43,601 Speaker 1: I did that twice, so I went to I didn't 117 00:04:43,601 --> 00:04:45,721 Speaker 1: even know what the town's called, and I only had 118 00:04:45,721 --> 00:04:47,481 Speaker 1: to work like four hour shift. But I got paid 119 00:04:47,481 --> 00:04:49,481 Speaker 1: a couple of grand for it. Wow, because the men 120 00:04:49,481 --> 00:04:52,121 Speaker 1: are just really generous. Yeah, they're super quiet as well. 121 00:04:52,681 --> 00:04:54,521 Speaker 1: The dumbest thing that I did was get a ride 122 00:04:54,521 --> 00:04:56,601 Speaker 1: home with one of the guys the next day to Perth. 123 00:04:57,361 --> 00:05:00,121 Speaker 1: I know, silly, How was that experience? It was fine, 124 00:05:00,161 --> 00:05:02,001 Speaker 1: we didn't even talk the whole right, just dropped me off. 125 00:05:02,121 --> 00:05:04,361 Speaker 2: But you felt safe though, like got really safe. 126 00:05:05,201 --> 00:05:07,641 Speaker 1: Bit dumb. Yes, no, you shouldn't have done that. It's 127 00:05:07,681 --> 00:05:09,201 Speaker 1: either that or catch a bus. But the bus was 128 00:05:09,241 --> 00:05:11,601 Speaker 1: going to take twice as long. So I just got 129 00:05:11,601 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: a ride and he dropped me off and it was fine. 130 00:05:13,681 --> 00:05:16,401 Speaker 2: But he wasn't giving like, he wasn't giving creepy sleezy 131 00:05:16,681 --> 00:05:18,201 Speaker 2: He's not going to be trusted now. 132 00:05:18,281 --> 00:05:20,441 Speaker 1: He was just like a young miner. Yeah, okay, obviously 133 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:22,841 Speaker 1: would never recommend doing that, and the hindsight, young eighteen 134 00:05:22,921 --> 00:05:25,161 Speaker 1: year old actually made a mistake for sure, of course. 135 00:05:25,721 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: And then some of the interesting offers that I got over. 136 00:05:27,721 --> 00:05:29,721 Speaker 2: The time, Oh my god, please tell Yeah. 137 00:05:30,081 --> 00:05:33,001 Speaker 1: Very interesting. I got offered to be paid one hundred 138 00:05:33,001 --> 00:05:37,561 Speaker 1: thousand dollars to go on a boat for the weekend. Wow, yeah, obviously. 139 00:05:37,561 --> 00:05:39,401 Speaker 2: Tell us, tell us about this story. Actually, I've had 140 00:05:39,401 --> 00:05:39,761 Speaker 2: this one. 141 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, a much older man. You know what, I did 142 00:05:42,681 --> 00:05:45,681 Speaker 1: not get soundsillly sat but I didn't get sleazy vibes 143 00:05:45,681 --> 00:05:47,521 Speaker 1: off him. He was He told me about his family, 144 00:05:47,561 --> 00:05:50,121 Speaker 1: he had a wife, he had kids. He was just very, 145 00:05:50,201 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 1: very lonely, and he offered that to me. I instantly said, no, 146 00:05:52,841 --> 00:05:54,001 Speaker 1: it's just not my thing. I'm not going to be 147 00:05:54,001 --> 00:05:55,521 Speaker 1: a little arm candy and I don't want to put 148 00:05:55,521 --> 00:05:56,881 Speaker 1: myself in a position like that when I'm on a 149 00:05:56,921 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: boat with a bunch of men. Yes, but now the 150 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:01,521 Speaker 1: girl took it, she did it, got her money, came back, 151 00:06:01,521 --> 00:06:03,441 Speaker 1: everything was all good. Didn't you say that there was 152 00:06:03,481 --> 00:06:03,921 Speaker 1: another girl? 153 00:06:03,961 --> 00:06:05,441 Speaker 2: You had spoken to the other girl about it, and 154 00:06:05,481 --> 00:06:07,041 Speaker 2: there were a few of them who had actually done that. 155 00:06:07,121 --> 00:06:09,361 Speaker 1: Yeah, pretty, they were fine. Yeah, they said you didn't 156 00:06:09,361 --> 00:06:09,921 Speaker 1: have sex with them. 157 00:06:10,241 --> 00:06:11,241 Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, you just. 158 00:06:11,241 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: Wanted a hot girl on the boat with them, keep 159 00:06:12,761 --> 00:06:15,281 Speaker 1: companying it. He loved a chat, Yeah, genuinely, he'd love 160 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:17,561 Speaker 1: to have a chat. I was scared it was going 161 00:06:17,601 --> 00:06:19,241 Speaker 1: to be in a position where I was expected to 162 00:06:19,241 --> 00:06:21,601 Speaker 1: have sex. Of course, and you guys know, I've only 163 00:06:21,601 --> 00:06:24,361 Speaker 1: ever had sex with partners. I not wanted to sleep around. 164 00:06:25,001 --> 00:06:27,361 Speaker 1: And then a couple of other times I got offered 165 00:06:27,521 --> 00:06:30,481 Speaker 1: ten thousand dollars to flash nipple. I said no, I 166 00:06:30,481 --> 00:06:32,481 Speaker 1: think once you kind of put yourself in that category, 167 00:06:32,521 --> 00:06:34,561 Speaker 1: they expect it, and I just never wanted to. And 168 00:06:34,601 --> 00:06:37,401 Speaker 1: once again I just not everyone got access to my body. Yeah, 169 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:38,881 Speaker 1: and I know I was just skimpy bar mate, but 170 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:40,241 Speaker 1: it just felt like for me, that was the next 171 00:06:40,241 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: step that I didn't want to take. Yes, So across 172 00:06:42,521 --> 00:06:44,361 Speaker 1: the road from the main bar that I worked out 173 00:06:44,361 --> 00:06:46,521 Speaker 1: there was a topless bar. So the girls that were 174 00:06:46,561 --> 00:06:48,241 Speaker 1: okay to be topless. I had a couple of girlfriends 175 00:06:48,281 --> 00:06:50,561 Speaker 1: that worked over there. Yeah, and they just didn't wear 176 00:06:50,601 --> 00:06:52,681 Speaker 1: any costumes. They just had their boobs out the whole time. 177 00:06:52,841 --> 00:06:54,801 Speaker 1: They made really good money, but it was just something 178 00:06:54,921 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: I don't know, I just didn't want to do. 179 00:06:56,081 --> 00:06:57,561 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like that was your limit. Yeah, it 180 00:06:57,561 --> 00:06:59,361 Speaker 2: was a cute little outfit, but like that's as far 181 00:06:59,361 --> 00:07:00,121 Speaker 2: as I got for sure. 182 00:07:00,201 --> 00:07:02,001 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was on stage on the Gold Coast doing 183 00:07:02,041 --> 00:07:05,721 Speaker 1: bikini competitions in a lot less clothing. Yeah, the costumes 184 00:07:05,761 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: I wore on stage, like most categories for the bikini 185 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:10,241 Speaker 1: comps I used to do. You had to do a dress, 186 00:07:10,521 --> 00:07:13,881 Speaker 1: a bikini, a costume, and lingerie. Wow, like four categories. 187 00:07:13,881 --> 00:07:15,601 Speaker 1: So I was showing a lot less skin on the 188 00:07:15,641 --> 00:07:18,881 Speaker 1: Gold Coast to all these people in a nightclub. So 189 00:07:18,921 --> 00:07:20,241 Speaker 1: wearing a costume over there. 190 00:07:20,281 --> 00:07:22,241 Speaker 2: Felt like nothing, Yeah, you're like fine, Yeah. 191 00:07:22,201 --> 00:07:24,521 Speaker 1: Post bikini photos all the time online, it didn't feel 192 00:07:24,641 --> 00:07:26,561 Speaker 1: edgy for me to wear a costume or take one 193 00:07:26,641 --> 00:07:28,961 Speaker 1: layer of clothing off and I'm still fully closed. Yes, 194 00:07:29,161 --> 00:07:31,081 Speaker 1: it just didn't feel like the wings off, like yeah, 195 00:07:31,121 --> 00:07:33,001 Speaker 1: it did not feel like a big deal to me. Yes, 196 00:07:33,281 --> 00:07:35,441 Speaker 1: and yeah really helped me. I moved through my breakup 197 00:07:35,441 --> 00:07:36,681 Speaker 1: as well, because I felt when I was on the 198 00:07:36,681 --> 00:07:38,161 Speaker 1: Gold Coast, I kept wanting to go back to him, 199 00:07:38,201 --> 00:07:39,681 Speaker 1: but I knew that it wasn't the right one for me, 200 00:07:39,721 --> 00:07:41,681 Speaker 1: and I felt bad for doing that. And when I 201 00:07:41,721 --> 00:07:44,121 Speaker 1: was lonely and I was just young, immature and just 202 00:07:44,201 --> 00:07:47,401 Speaker 1: navigating that, and it was nice to be independent and 203 00:07:47,481 --> 00:07:48,921 Speaker 1: nice to have lots of money at a young age. 204 00:07:48,921 --> 00:07:51,201 Speaker 1: I took my friends on holidays I shopped, I paid 205 00:07:51,201 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 1: off debts, got a head and then I met Steve. 206 00:07:55,721 --> 00:07:59,281 Speaker 1: So I met him online and he knew what I 207 00:07:59,321 --> 00:08:02,521 Speaker 1: was doing and didn't like it, but we were just 208 00:08:02,521 --> 00:08:04,681 Speaker 1: getting to know each other. I would always do lying, 209 00:08:04,761 --> 00:08:06,961 Speaker 1: like two or three weeks work and then come back 210 00:08:07,041 --> 00:08:09,321 Speaker 1: two or three weeks. It's kind of like five f O. Really, yes, 211 00:08:09,481 --> 00:08:11,521 Speaker 1: own your money, come back and live it up. Yeah, 212 00:08:11,601 --> 00:08:14,241 Speaker 1: and yeah. I came back and met Steve and never 213 00:08:14,321 --> 00:08:16,921 Speaker 1: left and the rest is history, and the rest is history, 214 00:08:17,201 --> 00:08:18,761 Speaker 1: and came back here and then I was like, shit, 215 00:08:18,801 --> 00:08:21,281 Speaker 1: I need to get a job. Started working at Valley Girl, 216 00:08:21,321 --> 00:08:24,001 Speaker 1: and then got my PTE certification and we started the 217 00:08:24,041 --> 00:08:26,401 Speaker 1: ash she won't be anybody challenge. Wow. So it's just 218 00:08:26,441 --> 00:08:29,521 Speaker 1: like a chapter in my journey, absolightly and a lot 219 00:08:29,521 --> 00:08:30,841 Speaker 1: of people who have asked like, oh, what did your 220 00:08:30,841 --> 00:08:33,441 Speaker 1: mom think of that? And of course she was always 221 00:08:33,441 --> 00:08:35,721 Speaker 1: worried about me, but she never shamed me for it. 222 00:08:36,161 --> 00:08:37,881 Speaker 1: She was like, yeah, do whatever you've got to do, 223 00:08:37,921 --> 00:08:39,321 Speaker 1: and call me if you need me, and I'm here 224 00:08:39,361 --> 00:08:40,881 Speaker 1: and talk to me about all and tell me it 225 00:08:40,881 --> 00:08:42,921 Speaker 1: all and tell me when you're home safe. And I 226 00:08:43,001 --> 00:08:46,481 Speaker 1: just I'm really lucky with my mom. I've never felt judged. 227 00:08:47,081 --> 00:08:49,521 Speaker 1: She's never pressured me to get a degree or to 228 00:08:49,521 --> 00:08:51,601 Speaker 1: do anything that I don't want to do. She's like, 229 00:08:51,681 --> 00:08:53,321 Speaker 1: you just live your life and I'm here for you 230 00:08:53,321 --> 00:08:55,601 Speaker 1: along the way. And it's really nice for facing me back. 231 00:08:55,601 --> 00:08:56,801 Speaker 1: I'm like, gosh, she did a good job with that, 232 00:08:56,841 --> 00:09:00,121 Speaker 1: because if anything happened to me or I was carrying 233 00:09:00,161 --> 00:09:02,081 Speaker 1: any shame, like, I just felt so safe to bring 234 00:09:02,121 --> 00:09:04,361 Speaker 1: it all into her. And I really hope that I 235 00:09:04,401 --> 00:09:06,801 Speaker 1: provide that's for my kids. I never want them to 236 00:09:06,801 --> 00:09:09,601 Speaker 1: feel pressured to be something or to have a certain 237 00:09:09,641 --> 00:09:11,601 Speaker 1: title or degree. I just got to live my life 238 00:09:11,601 --> 00:09:13,321 Speaker 1: and figure it out along the way, and I think 239 00:09:13,321 --> 00:09:15,801 Speaker 1: I've turned out pretty good. So she did good. 240 00:09:16,001 --> 00:09:16,801 Speaker 2: You did good, Wendy. 241 00:09:16,961 --> 00:09:19,081 Speaker 1: But yeah, it's funny you have a stage name. So 242 00:09:19,201 --> 00:09:21,401 Speaker 1: Pam was my name. I don't know why I love it. 243 00:09:21,401 --> 00:09:23,321 Speaker 1: I like, I wonder where Pam came from. 244 00:09:23,361 --> 00:09:23,961 Speaker 2: I don't know. 245 00:09:24,481 --> 00:09:26,361 Speaker 1: It's not even a sexy name, like I could have 246 00:09:26,361 --> 00:09:28,161 Speaker 1: thought of something better, like Stephanie. 247 00:09:28,401 --> 00:09:29,881 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I wonder if you were just like something 248 00:09:29,881 --> 00:09:31,641 Speaker 2: that's so far fetched from your actual name. 249 00:09:31,801 --> 00:09:33,321 Speaker 1: I'm wondering if one of the boys just called me 250 00:09:33,321 --> 00:09:34,721 Speaker 1: it one day, Like I wonder if I was struggling 251 00:09:34,721 --> 00:09:36,361 Speaker 1: to think of a name and one of them just 252 00:09:36,401 --> 00:09:38,441 Speaker 1: called me Pam one days. So funny, I don't know. 253 00:09:38,841 --> 00:09:40,601 Speaker 2: But you know what, as well, I feel like around 254 00:09:40,601 --> 00:09:43,761 Speaker 2: that time, promotional work was a really big thing. Huge. 255 00:09:43,841 --> 00:09:46,321 Speaker 2: I remember all of my older sisters did promotional work, 256 00:09:46,601 --> 00:09:48,441 Speaker 2: and there was always the option to kind of push 257 00:09:48,441 --> 00:09:50,881 Speaker 2: into that lingerie topless kind of do you know what 258 00:09:50,881 --> 00:09:52,841 Speaker 2: I mean? Like obviously there are stages of promotional work. 259 00:09:52,881 --> 00:09:55,481 Speaker 2: It's like fully clothed, a little bit less, you know. 260 00:09:55,561 --> 00:09:57,201 Speaker 2: So it's like I feel like that was a really 261 00:09:57,201 --> 00:09:57,601 Speaker 2: big thing. 262 00:09:57,681 --> 00:09:58,601 Speaker 1: It was huge. 263 00:09:58,641 --> 00:09:59,601 Speaker 2: I don't even know how long ago. 264 00:09:59,841 --> 00:10:02,161 Speaker 1: The girls at the Inner the Bedroom nightclub, Yes, they 265 00:10:02,201 --> 00:10:04,681 Speaker 1: wear lingerie behind the bar, Yeah, they were wearing more 266 00:10:04,721 --> 00:10:07,201 Speaker 1: than what any of the skimpy bar mates in wa. Yeah, 267 00:10:07,881 --> 00:10:09,721 Speaker 1: guarantee weird with a lot more clothes on than there 268 00:10:09,761 --> 00:10:12,761 Speaker 1: most of the time. Yeah, and the topless girls. But yeah, 269 00:10:12,841 --> 00:10:15,921 Speaker 1: it was such an interesting fun chapter. But I don't 270 00:10:15,961 --> 00:10:17,961 Speaker 1: know why I carried so much shame around it. And 271 00:10:18,001 --> 00:10:19,601 Speaker 1: I noticed when I would do like a random Q 272 00:10:19,681 --> 00:10:21,841 Speaker 1: and A that'd be like a fake profile, that's like, hey, Pam, 273 00:10:21,881 --> 00:10:22,241 Speaker 1: how you. 274 00:10:22,201 --> 00:10:24,361 Speaker 2: Doing Oh, I'm like, oh, you're like. 275 00:10:24,321 --> 00:10:27,801 Speaker 1: It's gonna get out, someone's gonna leak a photo or something. 276 00:10:28,281 --> 00:10:29,561 Speaker 1: And then I sat with it one day and I 277 00:10:29,601 --> 00:10:32,281 Speaker 1: was like, why am I so ashamed of this? Why 278 00:10:32,281 --> 00:10:34,801 Speaker 1: do I care what people think about my past. It's 279 00:10:34,841 --> 00:10:37,281 Speaker 1: literally like seventeen years ago, and it was just a 280 00:10:37,361 --> 00:10:39,601 Speaker 1: chapter of my journey. So I just want to talk 281 00:10:39,601 --> 00:10:40,881 Speaker 1: about it because I think it's kind of funny and 282 00:10:40,961 --> 00:10:42,721 Speaker 1: interesting and people would look at me and think, oh 283 00:10:42,761 --> 00:10:44,001 Speaker 1: my god, I can't imagine her doing that. 284 00:10:44,201 --> 00:10:45,761 Speaker 2: Yeah, but also it's like it's just a part of 285 00:10:45,801 --> 00:10:47,441 Speaker 2: your journey. It's part of your story, and you were 286 00:10:47,481 --> 00:10:50,481 Speaker 2: young and exploring and finding ways to make money and yeah, 287 00:10:50,601 --> 00:10:52,561 Speaker 2: you did what you could do at the time to survive. 288 00:10:52,601 --> 00:10:54,441 Speaker 2: And also, like what you said, it was a fun experience, 289 00:10:54,441 --> 00:10:56,321 Speaker 2: like you learned. I imagine you would have learned so 290 00:10:56,361 --> 00:10:59,441 Speaker 2: much about like hustling and learning and growing in that period. 291 00:10:59,561 --> 00:11:01,681 Speaker 1: I love being around people. Yeah, I'd never poured a 292 00:11:01,721 --> 00:11:03,841 Speaker 1: drink in my life until I started working there, But 293 00:11:03,921 --> 00:11:06,081 Speaker 1: I love being around people. I love talking to people. 294 00:11:06,801 --> 00:11:09,321 Speaker 1: It's easy. Like the shift we do was so easy. 295 00:11:09,361 --> 00:11:11,521 Speaker 1: Even there was like a couple of morning shifts, so 296 00:11:11,601 --> 00:11:13,121 Speaker 1: you might do a week at a bar where the 297 00:11:13,161 --> 00:11:15,681 Speaker 1: boys come off night shift, so you do six am 298 00:11:15,681 --> 00:11:17,961 Speaker 1: till nine am. You make like a grand for three hours, 299 00:11:18,081 --> 00:11:19,841 Speaker 1: just chilling while they had their beer and you're serving 300 00:11:19,841 --> 00:11:23,601 Speaker 1: it and cleaning up and chatting with them. Easy. Yeah, 301 00:11:23,641 --> 00:11:25,641 Speaker 1: so when on so many holidays, I help my friends 302 00:11:25,681 --> 00:11:28,401 Speaker 1: with so much money, paid off all my debts, which 303 00:11:28,441 --> 00:11:31,121 Speaker 1: is cool. So yeah, Pam has gone. 304 00:11:31,161 --> 00:11:33,681 Speaker 2: Now though, it's cool that you've been able to overcome 305 00:11:33,721 --> 00:11:36,361 Speaker 2: the shame around it, because like, why why show? 306 00:11:36,601 --> 00:11:38,241 Speaker 1: I don't know why I was so embarrassed? Why was 307 00:11:38,281 --> 00:11:40,961 Speaker 1: I so scared? I know people are going to have opinions. 308 00:11:41,001 --> 00:11:42,681 Speaker 1: I know someone listening is going to put this on 309 00:11:42,681 --> 00:11:44,961 Speaker 1: a gossip page. I'm like, oh my gosh, I actually did this, 310 00:11:45,121 --> 00:11:47,281 Speaker 1: Like but I don't care. Yeah, like you can talk 311 00:11:47,321 --> 00:11:48,681 Speaker 1: about it, and you know what has been cool. 312 00:11:48,721 --> 00:11:51,321 Speaker 2: I feel like this season at the moment, like the 313 00:11:51,361 --> 00:11:53,361 Speaker 2: eraor that you're in right now, the last twelve months, 314 00:11:53,721 --> 00:11:56,241 Speaker 2: you really embodying your sexual, feminine energy. It's almost like 315 00:11:56,241 --> 00:11:59,241 Speaker 2: reclaiming that sense of sensuality. That is so I wonder 316 00:11:59,281 --> 00:12:00,721 Speaker 2: if it's like now you look back and you're like, oh, 317 00:12:00,721 --> 00:12:03,601 Speaker 2: I'm actually not ashamed of that anymore. Yeah, not because 318 00:12:03,641 --> 00:12:06,841 Speaker 2: you were doing anything sexual, but it's like empowered, Yes, 319 00:12:07,001 --> 00:12:09,441 Speaker 2: Like you're feeling empowered now, so it's like, oh, well, 320 00:12:09,521 --> 00:12:10,681 Speaker 2: I'm actually not ashamed of that. 321 00:12:10,961 --> 00:12:14,041 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's cool. It's really nice to shed shame. It 322 00:12:14,041 --> 00:12:16,601 Speaker 1: has been really cool last twelve months and just actually 323 00:12:16,641 --> 00:12:18,601 Speaker 1: take a moment to sit in discomfort of the shame 324 00:12:18,641 --> 00:12:21,081 Speaker 1: and ask yourself why. And it's good for anyone listening too, 325 00:12:21,121 --> 00:12:23,841 Speaker 1: if there's anything you're shameful around, like literally sit in 326 00:12:23,881 --> 00:12:26,841 Speaker 1: and be like, but why because society's told me that 327 00:12:26,881 --> 00:12:29,241 Speaker 1: I'm a slut doing that, or that's the wrong thing, 328 00:12:29,641 --> 00:12:31,361 Speaker 1: or you're not smart enough to get a real job, 329 00:12:31,561 --> 00:12:33,921 Speaker 1: or that's what you're gonna do with your life. Like 330 00:12:33,961 --> 00:12:35,641 Speaker 1: all these comments and stories, and a lot of the 331 00:12:35,681 --> 00:12:38,081 Speaker 1: time it's just ourselves that make up these stories. 332 00:12:38,081 --> 00:12:40,241 Speaker 2: What about you? Mention that Steve didn't like it at 333 00:12:40,241 --> 00:12:43,001 Speaker 2: the time. Was there like many conversations that happened around 334 00:12:43,001 --> 00:12:44,921 Speaker 2: that with him, did he ever want you to stop? 335 00:12:45,041 --> 00:12:46,561 Speaker 2: Or was he okay with it? And just like, oh, 336 00:12:46,641 --> 00:12:48,321 Speaker 2: let her do her own thing? How is he with that? 337 00:12:48,481 --> 00:12:51,521 Speaker 1: Upon reflection on conversations afterwards, he fucking hated it because 338 00:12:51,521 --> 00:12:54,041 Speaker 1: he's so jealous. Yes, like everyone's looking at my girl. 339 00:12:54,201 --> 00:12:56,121 Speaker 1: But we weren't officially a couple. We were just talking. 340 00:12:56,121 --> 00:12:59,361 Speaker 1: We just spoke for months before we even met. Yes, 341 00:12:59,401 --> 00:13:02,041 Speaker 1: so we've got a very close relationship and we couldn't 342 00:13:02,041 --> 00:13:03,561 Speaker 1: call it official because we hadn't even met each other. 343 00:13:03,561 --> 00:13:05,641 Speaker 1: But it's almost like we had this in annoying that, yes, 344 00:13:05,761 --> 00:13:08,041 Speaker 1: this is going to go somewhere. We both were still 345 00:13:08,041 --> 00:13:10,441 Speaker 1: talking to other people because obviously do put the eggs 346 00:13:10,481 --> 00:13:13,281 Speaker 1: in one basket. We hadn't met. But yeah, afterwards, he 347 00:13:13,401 --> 00:13:15,721 Speaker 1: was like, I didn't like that at all, knowing you 348 00:13:15,761 --> 00:13:18,001 Speaker 1: were going to work and it's hot outpits and everyone's 349 00:13:18,001 --> 00:13:19,241 Speaker 1: looking at you and I haven't even been able to 350 00:13:19,241 --> 00:13:21,801 Speaker 1: look at you properly yet, so it's very jealous. 351 00:13:21,961 --> 00:13:24,841 Speaker 2: Yeah that's my girl. Yeah, he's mine, and he. 352 00:13:24,921 --> 00:13:26,721 Speaker 1: Just obviously just didn't want me doing that as a career. 353 00:13:26,761 --> 00:13:28,561 Speaker 1: And he's like, I see more for you and can 354 00:13:28,601 --> 00:13:31,161 Speaker 1: see you love health and fitness and like I want 355 00:13:31,201 --> 00:13:33,841 Speaker 1: to start our life together here. So but yeah, I 356 00:13:33,841 --> 00:13:35,841 Speaker 1: can understand why their partner wouldn't want them doing that. 357 00:13:36,121 --> 00:13:38,081 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, don't blame him. 358 00:13:38,121 --> 00:13:39,241 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was totally understandable. 359 00:13:39,321 --> 00:13:40,721 Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's like to Steve, You're like, oh no, 360 00:13:40,761 --> 00:13:42,241 Speaker 2: but I was just their friend and he's over here, 361 00:13:42,281 --> 00:13:43,841 Speaker 2: like have you seen you in that outfit? 362 00:13:44,321 --> 00:13:48,161 Speaker 1: They're looking at you nice. Yes, for sure, I meta 363 00:13:48,201 --> 00:13:51,961 Speaker 1: obviously looking and perving. But I did feel really safe 364 00:13:51,961 --> 00:13:54,401 Speaker 1: and I had really had really nice male friendships. Yeah, 365 00:13:54,601 --> 00:13:57,441 Speaker 1: Like they were respectful and so respectful. I still talked 366 00:13:57,441 --> 00:13:58,721 Speaker 1: to a few of them now, Like they were just 367 00:13:58,801 --> 00:14:00,921 Speaker 1: really protective of me. I was almost like their little sister. 368 00:14:01,081 --> 00:14:01,321 Speaker 2: Yeah. 369 00:14:01,321 --> 00:14:02,641 Speaker 1: They just wanted to make sure I was safe, and 370 00:14:02,641 --> 00:14:04,161 Speaker 1: they like all would talk amongst each other to make 371 00:14:04,161 --> 00:14:06,121 Speaker 1: sure someone's going to be at the who's picking ashy 372 00:14:06,201 --> 00:14:07,441 Speaker 1: up today because we have a car over there? 373 00:14:07,521 --> 00:14:07,721 Speaker 2: Yeah? 374 00:14:08,041 --> 00:14:10,081 Speaker 1: OK. Yeah, I just felt really protected and loved it 375 00:14:10,121 --> 00:14:12,241 Speaker 1: was nice. I always had a roof over my head 376 00:14:12,281 --> 00:14:14,401 Speaker 1: and we'd have dinners together and off their work would 377 00:14:14,401 --> 00:14:16,601 Speaker 1: hang out and go to the gym together. It was cool. 378 00:14:16,641 --> 00:14:17,121 Speaker 2: I love that. 379 00:14:17,161 --> 00:14:18,481 Speaker 1: It's a different kind of chapter. 380 00:14:18,601 --> 00:14:20,441 Speaker 2: It's cool that you were able to go to that 381 00:14:20,641 --> 00:14:23,401 Speaker 2: environment though, and have that sense of safety and protection. Yeah, 382 00:14:23,441 --> 00:14:25,121 Speaker 2: you know, it was like for another woman who maybe 383 00:14:25,401 --> 00:14:27,841 Speaker 2: would go and not know anybody there or be new 384 00:14:27,881 --> 00:14:29,561 Speaker 2: to that environment. Can see how that could be like 385 00:14:29,561 --> 00:14:30,401 Speaker 2: a slippery slope. 386 00:14:30,521 --> 00:14:32,401 Speaker 1: Yeah, a couple of the girls there was like obviously 387 00:14:32,441 --> 00:14:34,881 Speaker 1: like biking gangs and stuff, and there was a couple 388 00:14:34,921 --> 00:14:38,881 Speaker 1: of bars where they ran and yeah, definitely some unfortunate 389 00:14:38,881 --> 00:14:42,481 Speaker 1: things happened, but I just I never felt scared for myself, yes, 390 00:14:42,681 --> 00:14:45,001 Speaker 1: which was cool. And it's the only time in my 391 00:14:45,121 --> 00:14:49,161 Speaker 1: life that I've been single and fully free. I've been 392 00:14:49,161 --> 00:14:51,961 Speaker 1: in a relationship for seventeen years with eighteen next June, 393 00:14:52,321 --> 00:14:54,641 Speaker 1: and before that, I was with my first boyfriend, Luke 394 00:14:54,681 --> 00:14:56,761 Speaker 1: for three and a half years from age like fifteen 395 00:14:56,841 --> 00:14:59,921 Speaker 1: or sixteen, yeah, fifteen. So it's the only like little 396 00:14:59,921 --> 00:15:02,081 Speaker 1: period I had where I was just ashy. 397 00:15:01,921 --> 00:15:02,361 Speaker 2: Just free. 398 00:15:02,521 --> 00:15:05,481 Speaker 1: Yeah, just free. Yeah, Yeah, which was fun. You get 399 00:15:05,521 --> 00:15:08,241 Speaker 1: to explore that, Yeah, cool to experience that. Yeah, definitely 400 00:15:08,241 --> 00:15:11,361 Speaker 1: a relationship, Galie, Yeah, get made for the single. We 401 00:15:11,401 --> 00:15:13,401 Speaker 1: had this conversation the other day, actually we did. 402 00:15:13,441 --> 00:15:13,641 Speaker 2: Hey. 403 00:15:13,761 --> 00:15:15,561 Speaker 1: I was like, fuck, I don't know how Copra five 404 00:15:15,561 --> 00:15:17,161 Speaker 1: of them was single. I were having a conversation. 405 00:15:17,241 --> 00:15:20,201 Speaker 2: I was telling Ashi about something or about I don't know, 406 00:15:20,321 --> 00:15:23,321 Speaker 2: just like common themes dating and like even advice on 407 00:15:23,361 --> 00:15:25,801 Speaker 2: social media around you know, how to play the game 408 00:15:25,841 --> 00:15:27,161 Speaker 2: and all this sort of stuff. And she was like, Yianna, 409 00:15:27,201 --> 00:15:29,881 Speaker 2: is this what you have to deal with? This is atrocious? 410 00:15:30,001 --> 00:15:31,321 Speaker 2: And I was like, Babe, it's rough. 411 00:15:31,601 --> 00:15:32,281 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's rough. 412 00:15:33,041 --> 00:15:35,001 Speaker 2: It's not rough. It's like it depends like where you 413 00:15:35,041 --> 00:15:38,201 Speaker 2: spend your time and energy and allsocialida pool of good 414 00:15:38,241 --> 00:15:41,201 Speaker 2: men there is it is smaller because you become more picky, 415 00:15:41,201 --> 00:15:43,321 Speaker 2: you become more intentional and if you're looking at like 416 00:15:43,401 --> 00:15:45,921 Speaker 2: let's say the masses, like no offense, but like, but 417 00:15:46,041 --> 00:15:47,761 Speaker 2: this goes for men and women. I'm not fitting on 418 00:15:47,801 --> 00:15:49,921 Speaker 2: men at all, not a man hater, but it is 419 00:15:49,961 --> 00:15:51,961 Speaker 2: it's pretty rough out there, the way that people interact 420 00:15:51,961 --> 00:15:53,601 Speaker 2: when it comes to dating. And she was just like 421 00:15:53,641 --> 00:15:55,241 Speaker 2: this is a truth. She was like, I would die 422 00:15:55,241 --> 00:15:56,241 Speaker 2: out here if I were single. 423 00:15:56,441 --> 00:15:58,281 Speaker 1: Yeah. I think we were talking about even just the 424 00:15:58,321 --> 00:16:00,681 Speaker 1: simple things of men paying for things. And maybe I'm 425 00:16:00,721 --> 00:16:03,041 Speaker 1: just old school, but I have never had to pay 426 00:16:03,041 --> 00:16:05,001 Speaker 1: for something when I'm with a man. Yes, any day 427 00:16:05,201 --> 00:16:06,441 Speaker 1: that I've been on. And when I was single, I 428 00:16:06,481 --> 00:16:08,321 Speaker 1: went on quite a few dates. Like I didn't pull 429 00:16:08,361 --> 00:16:10,401 Speaker 1: my wallet out. Yeah, Steve would never let me pay 430 00:16:10,441 --> 00:16:13,081 Speaker 1: for something, yes, like ever, yeah he would cover everything 431 00:16:13,121 --> 00:16:14,801 Speaker 1: he couldn't. He didn't have a lot of money either. 432 00:16:14,841 --> 00:16:17,441 Speaker 1: But my first boyfriend, like he would get angry if 433 00:16:17,441 --> 00:16:19,081 Speaker 1: I filled my car up. Yes, he wanted to do 434 00:16:19,121 --> 00:16:20,601 Speaker 1: that for me. Yeah. As when I hear of you 435 00:16:20,881 --> 00:16:22,201 Speaker 1: men being like I want to go halves in this, 436 00:16:22,281 --> 00:16:22,601 Speaker 1: I'm like. 437 00:16:22,881 --> 00:16:24,041 Speaker 2: Very what excuse me? Half? 438 00:16:24,121 --> 00:16:26,281 Speaker 1: But to me fifty fifty? Like what do you mean 439 00:16:26,281 --> 00:16:27,041 Speaker 1: why is he not paid? 440 00:16:27,241 --> 00:16:29,201 Speaker 2: Yeah? My ex boyfriend was like that too. He would 441 00:16:29,201 --> 00:16:30,521 Speaker 2: get angry with me, like if I even if I 442 00:16:30,521 --> 00:16:32,401 Speaker 2: would pay or I would somehow manage to do it, 443 00:16:32,481 --> 00:16:34,321 Speaker 2: he would transfer it back to me, put the money 444 00:16:34,321 --> 00:16:35,921 Speaker 2: back in my bag or like he just like would 445 00:16:35,961 --> 00:16:37,681 Speaker 2: be like, please don't do that again, Like you stop that. 446 00:16:38,161 --> 00:16:40,881 Speaker 1: I think the true masculine provided man doesn't like they 447 00:16:41,001 --> 00:16:43,321 Speaker 1: actually want to do. Yeah, And like even though I'm 448 00:16:43,441 --> 00:16:45,401 Speaker 1: very independent, I can make my own money, I still 449 00:16:45,441 --> 00:16:46,961 Speaker 1: like to be taken care of. Yeah, it still feels 450 00:16:47,041 --> 00:16:49,361 Speaker 1: nice to be spoiled and just know that they've got 451 00:16:49,401 --> 00:16:51,961 Speaker 1: it and sarch off your brain and it's almost and 452 00:16:52,161 --> 00:16:54,801 Speaker 1: energy that they have. Yeah, they're just like leadership. 453 00:16:54,801 --> 00:16:56,601 Speaker 2: It's like I've got you, Yeah, I don't have to 454 00:16:56,601 --> 00:16:58,321 Speaker 2: worry and it's not even about the money, but it's 455 00:16:58,361 --> 00:17:00,201 Speaker 2: like I've got you energy you're going to take care 456 00:17:00,201 --> 00:17:01,001 Speaker 2: of you for sure. 457 00:17:01,161 --> 00:17:03,161 Speaker 1: When I hear stories not just Fromia, from other friends 458 00:17:03,161 --> 00:17:05,041 Speaker 1: too him like he did what Yeah, oh my god, 459 00:17:05,641 --> 00:17:06,801 Speaker 1: Like you didn't turn up to the day. What do 460 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:08,400 Speaker 1: you mean he's not applying to you? What do you 461 00:17:08,441 --> 00:17:11,521 Speaker 1: mean ghosted? You just haven't experienced any of that. Yeah, 462 00:17:11,561 --> 00:17:13,521 Speaker 1: And it wasn't dating apps when I was single. It's 463 00:17:13,561 --> 00:17:16,961 Speaker 1: like you add someone on Facebook, yeah, like more organic. Yeah, 464 00:17:17,001 --> 00:17:19,360 Speaker 1: you comment on their status where they're out, what they're doing, 465 00:17:19,441 --> 00:17:23,561 Speaker 1: or they're they might manage them. Yeah. Yeah, it's just 466 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:26,281 Speaker 1: such a different world. I just can't imagine being in 467 00:17:26,321 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 1: the world now. It's a different world. Yeah. 468 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:31,561 Speaker 2: But also as well, it's mostly Yeah, there's a lot 469 00:17:31,561 --> 00:17:34,161 Speaker 2: of chaos, there's a lot going on. Yeah, but if 470 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:36,361 Speaker 2: you're engage in it and you're entertaining it, and you're 471 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:38,640 Speaker 2: also showing up as that, you're only going to attract 472 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:40,640 Speaker 2: more of So true for the most part, Like you 473 00:17:40,681 --> 00:17:44,400 Speaker 2: attract what you are or what it is that you entertain, 474 00:17:44,481 --> 00:17:46,160 Speaker 2: and if you stop entertaining all the things that you 475 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 2: don't want, like you're going to have good experiences. 476 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:50,001 Speaker 1: That's true, you know. Yeah, there's lots of good people 477 00:17:50,001 --> 00:17:52,120 Speaker 1: out there. Absolutely ing them. Yeah, putting yourself in the 478 00:17:52,201 --> 00:17:55,801 Speaker 1: right scenarios. Yeah. So anyways, that's my story. 479 00:17:56,001 --> 00:17:58,761 Speaker 2: Goodbye, Pam, Thank you Pam, thanks to showing your face. 480 00:17:58,801 --> 00:18:01,201 Speaker 1: Thank you for your service. I'm so curious if anyone 481 00:18:01,201 --> 00:18:03,721 Speaker 1: who's listening to this when I lived in Kalgooli, I'd 482 00:18:03,721 --> 00:18:04,401 Speaker 1: love you to reach out. 483 00:18:04,441 --> 00:18:06,680 Speaker 2: Oh my god, like remember this era. That'd be funny. 484 00:18:06,801 --> 00:18:08,481 Speaker 1: Yeah, like did you live there? Do we meet? 485 00:18:08,761 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 2: Like for you at the bar. 486 00:18:10,281 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 1: There's women there too as well. Yeah, so interesting. It's 487 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:14,360 Speaker 1: only every now and again it'll pop up in a 488 00:18:14,441 --> 00:18:16,161 Speaker 1: Q and A and I'm like, oh, who are they? 489 00:18:16,360 --> 00:18:18,041 Speaker 1: It's from a fake profile though. 490 00:18:17,921 --> 00:18:21,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's suspicious, Yeah, suspicious being weird for Yeah, you 491 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:22,081 Speaker 2: can just say hello, just. 492 00:18:22,001 --> 00:18:24,041 Speaker 1: So high to how you doing doing? I remember you 493 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 1: in the bar? 494 00:18:24,961 --> 00:18:27,281 Speaker 2: Made my day seriously. 495 00:18:27,321 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 1: Well thanks for joining us. 496 00:18:28,241 --> 00:18:28,561 Speaker 2: Guys. 497 00:18:28,721 --> 00:18:30,281 Speaker 1: I wonder if you have a skeleton in your cover 498 00:18:30,360 --> 00:18:33,201 Speaker 1: we could talk about an episode me yeah, my skeleton. 499 00:18:33,241 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 1: Oh maybe I'll probably do you know what we should do? Yes? 500 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:39,761 Speaker 1: I feel like the sex tape. Yeah, episode, there's so 501 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:40,641 Speaker 1: much more to that. 502 00:18:40,801 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 2: Oh, there definitely is. 503 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 1: I think we should plan an episode. We would do 504 00:18:43,120 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 1: a part two and I've got a lot of questions 505 00:18:44,521 --> 00:18:46,441 Speaker 1: I think people would be curious on knowing. 506 00:18:46,521 --> 00:18:49,400 Speaker 2: Okay, open to that absolutely? Yeah cool when I do that, 507 00:18:49,441 --> 00:18:50,321 Speaker 2: Okay sounds got us know. 508 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:51,561 Speaker 1: Guys in the forum, would you like to hear a 509 00:18:51,561 --> 00:18:54,401 Speaker 1: part two of Tana sex tape story? So yeah, I've 510 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 1: got a lot of things I want to ask you. 511 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:55,880 Speaker 2: Done. 512 00:18:56,041 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 1: I mean I have asked you, but I think other 513 00:18:57,481 --> 00:18:58,281 Speaker 1: people be curious. 514 00:18:58,321 --> 00:19:00,961 Speaker 2: But on the podcast, yeah cool, let's do it on air, 515 00:19:01,201 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 2: on it. Let's go baby. 516 00:19:02,761 --> 00:19:04,321 Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us. We'll see you next time. 517 00:19:04,441 --> 00:19:05,881 Speaker 2: Bye. Four