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Speaker 1: Oh hello, Yes, you have tuned into healthy USh, the

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Speaker 1: Body and Soul podcast with me your host of Felicity

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Speaker 1: Hallie and joining us via our online studio today is

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Speaker 1: our fantastic producer, Tabby Wilson, and we are chatting through

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Speaker 1: three stories from the health and wellness world that piqued

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Speaker 1: our interest this week. Tabby, welcome to you, healthy Ish.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us again in the hot seat.

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Speaker 2: It's nice to be back, second week in a row.

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Speaker 1: Excited have you been healthy is this week? How's your

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Speaker 1: week panning out? Healthy Ish?

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Speaker 2: I think I'm trying to be better at fitting in

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Speaker 2: my walks and slow mornings. I think I'm trying this week,

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Speaker 2: so trying to make sure I don't wake up with

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Speaker 2: just half an hour to get ready and with out

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Speaker 2: the door for work. So I'm trying to fit in

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Speaker 2: a walk before work, and yeah, I take my time

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Speaker 2: a lie little bit more, so I start my day

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Speaker 2: a little bit better. Easier said than done, particularly for

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Speaker 2: those with kids are home. But I'm doing my best.

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Speaker 1: What are slow morning? So what are they?

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Speaker 2: Do?

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Speaker 1: You?

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Speaker 2: Remember? Well?

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Speaker 1: The other thing that might well probably helps everyone's morning

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Speaker 1: is caffeine. And that's the story I want to talk

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Speaker 1: about this week. I couldn't get past this. It was

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Speaker 1: on the Body and Sole website and the headline is

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Speaker 1: are you consuming too much caffeine? Tabby? What do you drink?

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Speaker 1: Do you drink coffee?

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Speaker 2: I do? I do drink coffee, and occasionally I am

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Speaker 2: partial to a cheeky DC in the afternoon, which obviously caffeine.

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Speaker 1: We often forget, though, don't we that diet cokes and

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Speaker 1: not energy drinks do have caffeine and chocolate, Oh chocolate.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know. I need tea, and I knew that

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Speaker 2: you have to be careful with some mato as well,

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Speaker 2: because it's quite caffeinated.

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Speaker 1: Is that right? Yes? Absolutely yes, because I've actually looked

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Speaker 1: into that because my kids wanted to try some, and

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Speaker 1: so absolutely not trying any of that bubble tea or

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Speaker 1: match or anything like that because it has caffeine in there.

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Speaker 1: But interesting this story written by our trustee friend of

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Speaker 1: the podcast, Susie Burrell. She shared signs that you might

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Speaker 1: be consuming too much caffeine, and I don't. I love coffee,

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Speaker 1: I have to a day, but then I also like

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Speaker 1: chocolate and don't drink as much DC as I used to.

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Speaker 1: But the caffeine count can creep up. So let me

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Speaker 1: share some signs that she writes about as to whether

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Speaker 1: you're consuming too much caffeine. The first one, you can't

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Speaker 1: get or stay asleep, might sound obvious. You might be

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Speaker 1: lying there ruminating on so many things that have gone

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Speaker 1: throughout the day, but often we don't focus or question

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Speaker 1: how much caffeine we have not only drunk, but what

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Speaker 1: time we stop drinking it. And basically, caffeine has a

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Speaker 1: half life of five hours, so if you had a

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Speaker 1: coffee or a DC mid to late afternoon, or perhaps

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Speaker 1: some chocolate, it could be impacting your ability to get

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Speaker 1: into a deep sleep and to stay asleep. That's wild.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I would think I'm not in the minority

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Speaker 2: to say a few squares of chocolate or maybe a

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Speaker 2: few rows of chocolate rather block. I'm very partial too

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Speaker 2: before before I go to bed. You know the post

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Speaker 2: in a choky with your.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so it of TV. We know all about that.

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Speaker 1: Well anyway, just a good thing to keep in mind

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Speaker 1: if you are struggling with sleep. The other there's many

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Speaker 1: signs in the story, but the other one that I

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Speaker 1: just wanted to mention was if you're craving sweet food

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Speaker 1: mid morning. Now, it's extremely common for coffee to replace breakfast.

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Speaker 1: You grab one on the go and then you eat

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Speaker 1: when you get to work or wherever you're going at

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Speaker 1: about ten or eleven. And while it may appear that

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Speaker 1: a large, milky coffee keeps you full for a number

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Speaker 1: of hours, what tends to happen is that you actually

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Speaker 1: reach for another sweet hit a couple of hours after

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Speaker 1: the coffee when you know you go and get your

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Speaker 1: next coffee, and it's easy to grab pastries and muffins

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Speaker 1: and cakes at the cafe. So just something to keep

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Speaker 1: in mind that perhaps the coffee heat in the morning

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Speaker 1: that my passes breakfast is not a great thing.

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Speaker 2: Hmmm, something I need to bear in mind. I have.

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Speaker 2: I've definitely made the latte for breakfast mistake once or

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Speaker 1: So anyway, got some great signs that SUSY's gone in

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Speaker 1: that story to well, ask yourself whether you are consuming

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Speaker 1: too much caffeine and you might not even realize it.

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Speaker 2: That's a really good one. I always love Susie's stories.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're a big fan of Susie. Thank you, Susie Tabby.

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Speaker 1: What was what got you intrigued this week.

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Speaker 2: Well, I've been on a bit of an exploration of

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Speaker 2: all things women's chronic health conditions and pain recently, and

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Speaker 2: I stumbled on this podcast called Hysterical, which is by SBS,

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Speaker 2: and this week they had an episode with doctor Leah Morone.

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Speaker 2: I think I'm pronouncing her name correctly, and she researches

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Speaker 2: gender gaps in medical research and the biases in medical research,

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Speaker 2: particularly towards women. I don't think that's a surprise to

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Speaker 2: anyone that those exist, and that there are huge gendered

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Speaker 2: gats in research in medicine. But one of the things

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Speaker 2: that I thought was really interesting that she talked about

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Speaker 2: in this episode was yanti syndrome. Have you heard of it?

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Speaker 1: Flys? I have, but remind me because I think the

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Speaker 1: term's brilliant.

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Speaker 2: So it's the idea that women kind of have to

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Speaker 2: prove their pain in medical scenarios more so than men.

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Speaker 2: And she had some interesting and quite sad little statistics

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Speaker 2: in there, but basically, the studies show that in an

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Speaker 2: emergency room, women have to prove themselves be in pain

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Speaker 2: more so than a male patient who had normally taken

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Speaker 2: at face value. Women also will have to wait longer

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Speaker 2: for pain relief in an emergency room department, which I

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Speaker 2: thought was kind of astounding. And women when presenting with

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Speaker 2: pain are more likely than men to get like an

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Speaker 2: alternative treatment, so like antidepressants or be that pain kind

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Speaker 2: of be attributed to anxiety and be treated on that

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Speaker 2: rather than the pain in itself. So I just thought

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Speaker 2: that was really interesting and interesting new podcasts from SBS

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Speaker 2: as well. I think it's only been out since June,

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Speaker 2: and yeah, definitely something to think about.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that, I mean, the gender paying gap

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Speaker 1: is real, and the more we talk about it, the

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Speaker 1: more we can be aware of it, and the more

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Speaker 1: perhaps we have to shout about it, bring the emergency department.

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Speaker 1: But I think just making us aware that it exists

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Speaker 1: and we need to somehow close it.

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Speaker 2: Agreed, And I think sometimes there's a real weight on you.

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Speaker 2: But it also is just so important to remember to

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Speaker 2: advocate for yourself. It's really easy to gaslight yourself not

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Speaker 2: just have other people tell you that your pain isn't real,

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Speaker 2: and it's so important just to stand your ground, Like

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Speaker 2: if you know that you're hurting and something is wrong,

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Speaker 2: you have to back yourself in on that and you

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Speaker 2: need the people around you to do that as well,

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Speaker 2: like make sure your partner knows that they need to

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Speaker 2: back you in on that as well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well said now just quickly before we go, I

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Speaker 1: wanted to flag and you turn with you that I

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Speaker 1: came across thanks to a new global report by Lula Lemon,

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Speaker 1: it's called well being burnout. Now scarily, Australia has placed

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Speaker 1: first in the list of top well being burnout zones

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Speaker 1: around the world. So well being burnout zones are defined

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Speaker 1: by lou Lemon as the markets with the highest levels

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Speaker 1: of burnout when thinking about their physical, mental, and social wellbeing.

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Speaker 1: I feel like we can all identify with this, especially

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Speaker 1: people who pursue health and wellness, that sometimes it all

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Speaker 1: gets a bit much. And what they found is the

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Speaker 1: global survey was of around sixteen thousand adults and they

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Speaker 1: found that one in two people have the societal pressure

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Speaker 1: to appear well even when they don't feel well.

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Speaker 2: That is so so interesting. I mean, if you've worked

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Speaker 2: in the space for a long time, do you reckon

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Speaker 2: you've ever experience well being burnt out?

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Speaker 1: Absolutely? Because I feel like sometimes I have like an

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Speaker 1: ideal that I have to hold myself up to that

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Speaker 1: because I'm in this space. You always have to be healthy,

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Speaker 1: ish and well, and you always have to be pursuing

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Speaker 1: that lifestyle and all the things that make that lifestyle

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Speaker 1: so absolutely so. Yeah, perhaps that's why this one jumped

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Speaker 1: out at me. Does something another thing that we can

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Speaker 1: be aware about and perhaps not put so much pressure

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Speaker 1: on ourselves to be well all the time.

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Speaker 2: You can be sick, you can be sick, you can

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Speaker 2: have a couch day. I mean, as always, let's remember.

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Speaker 1: The Ish exactly exactly. We live the Ish anyway, Tabby,

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Speaker 1: I hope you have a good week living the Ish

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Speaker 1: and see you next week.

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Speaker 2: See you next week.

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Speaker 1: Bye, and once again, if you do want to read

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Speaker 1: more about any of the above, I will leave a

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Speaker 1: link to all of it in these show notes. And

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Speaker 1: if you have an idea for us, please dm me

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Speaker 1: via social media at Felicity Harley. Of course you can

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Speaker 1: jump online bodyansoul dot com dot or you remember we

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Speaker 1: are also across social media, but you knew that already.

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Speaker 1: I hope you're following us and our printedution which is

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Speaker 1: out in your local Sunday paper, and until tomorrow, stay healthy,