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Speaker 1: From the Newsroom a news to Com today you gooday there,

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Speaker 1: I'm Andrew Bucklow and welcome to this adults only episode

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Speaker 1: of From the Newsroom. Oh yes, we're feeling very risky

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Speaker 1: for a Tuesday. A bit of housekeeping first, if you

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Speaker 1: just save this episode till a little bit later on,

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Speaker 1: because we are talking about sex. Baby.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: In this episode, you're gonna hear from one of the

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Speaker 1: world's top pawn stars. They recently revealed to news dot

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Speaker 1: com dot you the one place they are desperate to

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Speaker 1: shoot a video. You will never guess where it is.

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Speaker 1: She'll also walk us through what really happens on the

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Speaker 1: set of an adult movie and tell us about the

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Speaker 1: most bizarre requests she gets from her only fans customers.

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Speaker 1: Oh boy. Joining me in this studio now is news

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Speaker 1: dot com dot Au reporter Claudia Popowski. Gooday, Claudes.

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Speaker 3: How I a good Bucky.

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Speaker 2: How are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm very well.

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Speaker 1: Thanks. You've done a cracking interview with adult entertainer Angela White.

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Speaker 1: I think you did it last week. Now you've published

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Speaker 1: a few stories from that chat already on us dot

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Speaker 1: com dot you, you've still got more to come. Firstly,

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Speaker 1: some people listening may not be aware of who Angela

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Speaker 1: White is. What can you tell us about her?

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Speaker 3: Angela White is an Australian porn star. She's one of

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Speaker 3: the most successful performers in the world. She's been called

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Speaker 3: the Meryl Streep of porn because of how many awards

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Speaker 3: this woman whims it's unreal. She's been inducted into the

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Speaker 3: American Adult Entertainment Industry Hall of Fame, and at the

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Speaker 3: Pornhub Awards last week she cleaned up. She won our

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Speaker 3: most Popular Female Performer and Nicest Tips.

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Speaker 1: Oh nicest Tips.

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Speaker 4: Well, there you go.

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Speaker 1: That's a nice little trophy to have on your mantlepiece.

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Speaker 1: As I said, you've already written a few pieces from

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Speaker 1: your chat with Angela, including the detail that always stuns

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Speaker 1: her fans when they get to meet her. If you

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Speaker 1: want to read that good in news dot com dot

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Speaker 1: are you. You've got another piece coming from that interview

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Speaker 1: that you've very kindly agreed to tell us about right

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Speaker 1: here on from the newsroom before it publishes online. What

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Speaker 1: can you tell us.

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Speaker 3: As I was saying before, Angela has an incredible career

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Speaker 3: and she's achieved almost everything that she's ever wanted. But

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Speaker 3: I asked her the one thing that she hasn't done

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Speaker 3: yet that she's desperate to do.

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Speaker 1: Let's have a listen.

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Speaker 4: Even though it would be very expensive and probably unrealistic,

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Speaker 4: I would love to have sex in space.

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Speaker 3: That is gnarhli. What is it about it?

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Speaker 4: Like?

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Speaker 1: It's just like I want to do that, just.

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Speaker 4: In zero gravity.

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Speaker 2: I'm so fascinated and curious about that. Although even if

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Speaker 2: I can't make space happen, maybe I can convince you know,

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Speaker 2: a zero gravity yes to let me experience that.

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Speaker 1: Wow, that would really be something, wouldn't it.

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Speaker 3: H Yeah, I definitely have never even had that thought

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Speaker 3: crossed my mind before, and now after.

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Speaker 5: The chat, I was like, that would actually be pretty unreal.

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Speaker 1: We need to send that bit of audio to either

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Speaker 1: Elon mask or Richard Branson or Jeff Bezos and get

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Speaker 1: this happening. Maybe we little news dot com dot au

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Speaker 3: I think that would be a great idea.

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Speaker 1: I think our bosses may have something to say about that.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, I had the pleasure of meeting Angela a

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Speaker 1: few years ago as well, I got to interview her

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Speaker 1: face to face for another podcast that I was hosting

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Speaker 1: for news dot com dot AU. We're gonna have listened

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Speaker 1: to some of the highlights from that chat, now, Claudia,

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying my interview was better, Okay, I'm just

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Speaker 1: saying that I've got the audio, so don't take this

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Speaker 1: bad one. All right, let's have listened to Angela. What

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Speaker 1: made you decide to get into the porn industry.

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Speaker 6: I have always been fascinated with sex and growing up,

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Speaker 6: I was a very adventurous teenager, and I was criticized

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Speaker 6: for the way that I expressed and explored my sexuality right,

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Speaker 6: but pornography was the first place I saw women being

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Speaker 6: get into it from a young age. I waited till

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Speaker 6: I was eighteen, of course, and then I contacted some

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Speaker 1: Well, you were already at UNI when you started making

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Speaker 1: adult films. You study gender studies at the University of Melbourne,

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Speaker 1: and I understand you told all your peers at once

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Speaker 6: So I in the beginning, I actually was a little covert.

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Speaker 6: I wasn't open about the fact that I was in

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Speaker 6: porn because I really wanted to hear the arguments against pornography.

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Speaker 6: That was one of the reasons that I studied did

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Speaker 6: gender studies in the first place. I wanted to learn

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Speaker 6: more about intersectionality and like feminism and porn and I

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Speaker 6: was hearing all these arguments about like sex work being

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Speaker 6: degrading to women, and I really wanted to understand those arguments,

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Speaker 6: sort of like to know the enemy, I.

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Speaker 5: Guess, so I was very covert.

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Speaker 6: It wasn't until I was doing my honors thesis, in

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Speaker 6: Australian pornography industry that I came out to everyone. And

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Speaker 6: to be honest, it was really nice that everyone was

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Speaker 6: very supportive and welcoming, and I feel like even though

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Speaker 6: some of us had differing opinions on sex work, they

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Speaker 6: were very open to hearing my side of the story.

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Speaker 1: Okay they went shocked or anything.

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Speaker 5: Like that, Oh, some people were shocked or well.

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Speaker 1: Skipping forward a bit, you moved to the United States.

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Speaker 1: You've since established is one of the world's biggest porn stars.

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Speaker 1: I want to ask about shooting a porn video. Okay,

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Speaker 1: some behind the scenes facts to start with, Can you

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Speaker 1: give me a quick overview of the process, like do

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Speaker 1: you meet the actors and then do a dry run

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Speaker 1: and then film? How does it.

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Speaker 5: Work a dry run? It's always a wet run. Okay.

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Speaker 6: So it's actually different depending on what kind of scene

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Speaker 6: probably seen the feature scenes where there's a storyline and

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Speaker 6: an intro and a lead up, and then there's other

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Speaker 6: scenes like an all sex scene where there might be

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Speaker 6: a little bit of tease in lingerie for the camera

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Speaker 6: and then it goes straight to the sex. So each

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Speaker 6: kind of scene there's a little bit of a different process.

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Speaker 6: But generally what happens is the female talent. If we're

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Speaker 6: shooting heterosexual porn, yeah, the female talent will arrive on

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Speaker 6: will start setting up lighting. Female talent will usually be

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Speaker 6: and the male talent doesn't turn up until after the

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Speaker 5: That's when we.

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Speaker 6: Start shooting what we call in the industry pretty girls,

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Speaker 6: which is just solo photos of the female talent. Those

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Speaker 6: photos might be sold to magazines, they might be put

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Speaker 5: And often the male talent will watch those photos be

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Speaker 6: Of a tease, as the performer will undress for the camera,

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Speaker 6: both of them. And then and that's obviously you meet

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Speaker 6: a way, the rapport, and then usually depends on the set. Again,

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Speaker 6: some sets do sex stills and some don't, So if

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Speaker 6: as you said, the dry run, I'll call it the

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Speaker 6: wet run. So we will do sex stills, and that

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Speaker 6: is kind of like real sex, except that there's a

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Speaker 5: Right and then we move into the scene itself.

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Speaker 1: On average, when you're filming a scene, how many people

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Speaker 6: Again, it's different depending on the type of scene. So

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Speaker 6: a feature, you might have a twelve person crew. For

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Speaker 6: the performer and a camera operator if that's really small budget.

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Speaker 6: But I would say average is probably probably around five.

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Speaker 1: And say you were doing a big budget feature. I mean,

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Speaker 1: say the scene was going to be ten minutes long

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Speaker 1: once edited, how long roughly would it take to film

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Speaker 1: the content for that scene?

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Speaker 6: You know, I don't think I've ever shot a scene

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Speaker 6: that would be ten minutes long. It's just not the

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Speaker 6: pawn formula. It would always be around thirty minutes. Minutes, yeah,

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Speaker 6: thirty minutes at least. Yeah, And again it depends, it

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Speaker 6: me for a studio based porn would probably be around

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Speaker 6: six hours. For a feature, it could be eight, ten, twelve.

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Speaker 6: I've been on set before for twenty three hours.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's a lot. What's the most awkward

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Speaker 5: You know what's funny?

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Speaker 6: Nothing is awkward to me, because we're once you're in

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Speaker 6: the porn industry, you just you see all the things

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Speaker 6: that you could possibly see our human body do and

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Speaker 6: the weird noises that they make, and nothing is embarrassing,

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Speaker 6: and nothing is weird and nothing is awkward.

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Speaker 5: So things that maybe other people might find.

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Speaker 6: It awkward, like queefing or you know, somebody, I don't

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Speaker 6: know what would okay, Just to turn it back on you,

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Speaker 6: what would you find all that.

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Speaker 1: Is a great question. Okay. Well obviously farting I will.

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Speaker 6: Okay, would be a thing every now and again. That's

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Speaker 1: I've heard no one ever has to run off to

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Speaker 1: the bathroom mid scene. Oh sure, yeah, no one's been sick.

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Speaker 5: No I haven't gone.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: No, you're not supposed to come to work if you're seck.

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Speaker 1: That's a good belt, all right. Well, a lot of

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Speaker 1: adult films do have some very dodgy storylines. You mentioned

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Speaker 1: storylines before. What are some of the standout storylines you've

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Speaker 6: Oh gee, I've been in so many different types of scenarios.

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Speaker 6: From your standard, the naughty nurse is very popular. See

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Speaker 6: if everyone wants a spongebar. I did one that was

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Speaker 6: very popular where I was sort of invited a Tinder

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Speaker 6: but it was actually my landlord. It was a very

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Speaker 6: very confusing scene, but people really enjoyed that because there

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Speaker 5: Comedic element to it.

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Speaker 6: Some of the big features have more in depth, darker storylines,

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Speaker 6: but most of the stuff that's really popular is just

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Speaker 6: a little bit of a little bit of comedic element

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Speaker 6: and just getting straight to the sex, a little.

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Speaker 1: Bit of fantasy.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well from Angela in just a moment, including the most

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Speaker 1: bizarre request she gets from a only fans customers, Welcome back.

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Speaker 1: You are listening to my interview with Angela White, the Ossie,

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Speaker 1: who was one of the world's top adult entertainers. Let's

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Speaker 1: talk about the business side of the industry. So you

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Speaker 1: own your own production company. Now you direct and edit

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Speaker 1: your own content, You negotiate all your own contracts. What

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Speaker 1: the moment is the majority of been come through only

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Speaker 1: fans and then separate adult movies and then appearances like

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Speaker 1: what would be the breakdown?

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Speaker 6: OnlyFans is definitely the top earner, and that changed during

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Speaker 6: the pandemic. I think that my top earner before that

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Speaker 6: was definitely studio porn, and now it's only fans, and

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Speaker 6: it's probably only fans for most people in porn. It

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Speaker 6: really changed the game for everyone. So, yeah, OnlyFans, then

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Speaker 6: I would say studio porn and then appearances.

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Speaker 5: Yeah right.

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Speaker 1: You always hear these crazy figures about only fans where

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Speaker 1: people are making you know, so much money each year.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to get you to say the exact figure,

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Speaker 1: but can give me a ballpark? Like, would you say

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Speaker 1: that through only fans you make more than a quarter

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Speaker 1: of a meal per year?

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Speaker 5: I won't say any I won't even give you a ballpark.

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Speaker 5: I'll tell But what I'll.

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Speaker 6: Tell you is the numbers that are thrown around in

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Speaker 6: the media are real. Uh and I am in the

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Speaker 6: top zero point zero one percent, so I do.

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Speaker 5: Very well for myself.

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Speaker 1: Congratulations, Thank you.

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Speaker 5: You're my fans.

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Speaker 1: That's true. One of the great things I guess about

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Speaker 1: only fans is that you know you can have direct

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Speaker 1: contact with your customers. They can sometimes send requests to

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Speaker 1: you if they want personal content made for them. What

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Speaker 1: are some of the more bizarre requests that you've had

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Speaker 1: from customers over the years.

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Speaker 5: Again, nothing is bizarre to me anymore.

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Speaker 6: I think, I mean foot fetish stuff is very popular.

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Speaker 5: Also gooning. I have a large community of gooners.

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Speaker 1: I have no idea what gooning is.

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Speaker 6: Okay, So gooners love to edge, so edge themselves and

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Speaker 6: not just like regular edging where you take yourself to

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Speaker 6: the brink of orgasm and then pull back, you know,

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Speaker 6: maybe for thirty minutes.

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Speaker 5: An hour, like they'll edge for a days, weeks, months.

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Speaker 6: Without completion, and they they just obsess over me. And

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Speaker 6: I really enjoy, I really enjoy making content for them

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Speaker 6: because they get so excited about it and they're just

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Speaker 6: they're they're a lot of fun.

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Speaker 1: And I guess they repeat customers then because they want

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Speaker 1: to keep aging.

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Speaker 5: Yes, you're right, it's like a never ending cycle.

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Speaker 1: So how much of your day is dedicated to making

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Speaker 1: content for only fans?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Well I could make content all day every day. I

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Speaker 6: give my body a break, but it really depends. I

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Speaker 6: kind of set up my week so that I'm shooting

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Speaker 6: at least once every second day, and then I have

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Speaker 6: the other day that I'm not shooting. Is all about

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Speaker 6: pre production and buying wardrobe and doing the emails and

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Speaker 6: the paperwork and everything else that I need to do.

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Speaker 1: That was some of the highlights from my chat with

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Speaker 1: Angela White. She is an absolute legend. I'll be honest,

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Speaker 1: though I cannot get over the fact that she told

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Speaker 1: my colleague Claudia that she would like to get it

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Speaker 1: on in zero gravity and shoot a sex video up there.

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Speaker 1: Wouldn't that be crazy? Just recently we saw Katie Perry

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Speaker 1: sang in space. Now Angela White wants to bang in space.

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Speaker 1: I think that would outrate the moon landing that'll go off,

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Speaker 1: wouldn't it. All Right, let's wrap this thing up. Thank

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Speaker 1: you so much for listening to today's episode, and I'll

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