1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 1: This here's a podcast. We were talking about lip readers 2 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: the other day because I was saying how they've grown 3 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:10,799 Speaker 1: in popularity and I just don't know whether to trust them. 4 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: To me, it almost goes the Pope, the King of 5 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: England lip readers. That's how they seem to be sold 6 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: in these days. In that any celebrity footage where you 7 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: don't actually have audio, they drag a lip reader in 8 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: to find out what the private conversation was. 9 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 2: Oh, you mean they have special powers or something. I'm 10 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 2: there with the King and the post this skill. 11 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 1: This is how they're now ranked in society because they're 12 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: so important. They're being used all the time lip readers. 13 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 3: But see, it's it's the. 14 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:43,520 Speaker 1: Tabloids that use them. Yeah, who else is using lip readers? 15 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:45,919 Speaker 1: It's just the tabloids, big industry. 16 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 3: Do you believe the tabloids? 17 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:49,520 Speaker 1: Well, I don't know what to believe, that's the thing. 18 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: And when I saw from the footage of Super Bowl 19 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: sixty there was Lewis Hamilton and Kim Kardashian chatting, and 20 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 1: they said because they got a lip reader in that 21 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: they knew exactly what the conversation was, which went along 22 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 1: the lines of Lewis Hamilton saying, well, I'm not just 23 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 1: going to invite anybody at home to meet my mom, 24 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: so I'd love you to meet my mum as if 25 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 1: they're having that conversation. 26 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 2: Apparently Kim then said something like, well, I'm going to 27 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 2: have to meet her one day Anywayader. 28 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was in a position where I went, Wow, 29 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 1: this is amazing access into these private conversations. And the 30 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: girl or the woman who was able to lip read 31 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 1: that conversation was a girl by the name of Nicola 32 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: Hickling and she's in the UK. So I'm trying to 33 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: work out how much to believe the lip reader so. 34 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 2: Well, I could tell you just ask me how much 35 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 2: to believe these lip readers might be really skilled and 36 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 2: that might. 37 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 1: Be used in the community for different things, you know, 38 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: like I don't know lipreating anyway. So what we did 39 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: and I wanted to test her out, Jesse, you did 40 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: a cracking job in your track down Nicola Hickling and 41 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 1: we but they just recorded some footage of us Kate 42 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: having a conversation, right, this was yesterday off air and 43 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: we were just talking and what I then did private conversation? Yeah, yeah, yeah. 44 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: During the songs. What I then did is sent the 45 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 1: footage to Nicola without the audio. So what I'm going 46 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: to play for you first is what was actually said 47 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:23,799 Speaker 1: between you and I, and then we're going to hear 48 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: what Nicola thought was actually said between you and I. 49 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: Here's the first part. I guess what I heard yesterday 50 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: little roomor getting around. Yeah, well, that they are doing 51 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: a remake of Australian stories and they're looking for people. 52 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 1: They want you for Australian stories. 53 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:45,079 Speaker 3: For me, it's. 54 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 1: Australian story, you idiot. But ignore that part. So that 55 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 1: was the conversation, very simple. 56 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 2: Now I feel bad because I remember that conversation in 57 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 2: the studio. 58 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 1: And I thought you were genuinely interested. I mean, I'm 59 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: sure they would be if you put your foot in that. 60 00:02:57,480 --> 00:02:59,959 Speaker 1: But here's the thing. We then sent that to Nicola. 61 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: Here's what she thought that we were saying based on 62 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 1: reading our lips. 63 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 3: That's pointless because I seen him. It's boring there, Kate, 64 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 3: that they are doing a remake of mainly your frustration 65 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 3: in all of this wonderful people. Right. Oh yeah, well 66 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 3: living through extortionism. You're a painkiller. 67 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 2: Maybe they got the painkiller thing right. So it couldn't 68 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 2: be more wrong. 69 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: Nowhere near it. The conversation then continued. 70 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 2: They have asked me in the past to update the story. 71 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: Have you already done one? 72 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 3: Would you have got as a friend or as a colleague? 73 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 1: Talking correct question. 74 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 2: As a colleague? 75 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 1: No? No, you can take time to think about it. 76 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: Over to Nicola. 77 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 3: They have ice picking in the past. This is jam 78 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 3: telling the story right. Yeah, if they rated her? Would 79 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 3: you have Whipper as a friend or a darling or gie? 80 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 3: Is that a question a darling? 81 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 2: Mm? 82 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 3: Oh god, yeah, so accurate. 83 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 2: I like this because what it means is that every 84 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 2: time I read what these lip readers say, whether it's 85 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 2: you know, the Dutchess at the tennis with Louis and 86 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 2: what she's reprimanding him with. 87 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: The conversation between Lewis Hamilton and Kim Kardashian. 88 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 2: Absolutely, this is a Fitzy with Friend Pate podcast. 89 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: For all great shows like this, download the Nova player, 90 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: find the app store or Google playing the player