1 00:00:05,241 --> 00:00:24,321 Speaker 1: Hmm, approache production for the record. 2 00:00:24,361 --> 00:00:27,641 Speaker 2: I don't try and make you uncomfortable for the record. 3 00:00:27,721 --> 00:00:30,921 Speaker 2: You ain't trying world and stuff for your photo record 4 00:00:31,081 --> 00:00:32,361 Speaker 2: lab on me going all the. 5 00:00:32,281 --> 00:00:35,121 Speaker 1: Way way for the record. Ain't trying to link, No 6 00:00:35,201 --> 00:00:36,601 Speaker 1: trying to waste stuff. 7 00:00:36,841 --> 00:00:42,520 Speaker 3: For the record, for the record, for the for the record, 8 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:47,601 Speaker 3: for the record, for the record, record. 9 00:00:49,961 --> 00:00:52,121 Speaker 1: For the record. Don't try and make you uncomfortable. 10 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:56,201 Speaker 4: Welcome back to the Clink. Fantastic to have you all 11 00:00:56,281 --> 00:00:59,721 Speaker 4: back for another episode here today. I tell you what, 12 00:00:59,881 --> 00:01:03,721 Speaker 4: I'm actually quietly excited. This guest today has been someone 13 00:01:03,761 --> 00:01:06,961 Speaker 4: that I've been communicating with for several years. This man 14 00:01:07,161 --> 00:01:10,281 Speaker 4: is doing wonderful things. I'm going to let you hear 15 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:13,041 Speaker 4: his story from his mouth because it is one that 16 00:01:13,161 --> 00:01:16,881 Speaker 4: I believe is very worthy, and the contribution to community 17 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 4: that he gives and the skills that he has in 18 00:01:19,481 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 4: life acquired through his own lived experiences phenomenal. You know, 19 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:26,321 Speaker 4: I really want to take today and let's look at 20 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:31,121 Speaker 4: what it takes when you feel rejected, the haters, the naysayers, 21 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:34,241 Speaker 4: you know, the adversity that you can't do this, or 22 00:01:34,321 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 4: you you shouldn't be able to do this, or even 23 00:01:36,401 --> 00:01:40,481 Speaker 4: just been written off as a statistic today, Denny Shannon, 24 00:01:40,681 --> 00:01:43,161 Speaker 4: Welcome to the clink, mate. I couldn't ask for a 25 00:01:43,241 --> 00:01:45,121 Speaker 4: better person to be able to explain all that. 26 00:01:45,481 --> 00:01:48,521 Speaker 5: Brother. It's so good to be here, Brendan. We have 27 00:01:48,601 --> 00:01:51,521 Speaker 5: had a few crxit. I don't know what happened was 28 00:01:51,641 --> 00:01:55,521 Speaker 5: I actually I kind of remember one thing happening. But anyway, mate, 29 00:01:56,081 --> 00:01:58,921 Speaker 5: it has been well, it's absolutely pleasure to know you 30 00:01:59,001 --> 00:02:00,921 Speaker 5: and to be a part of your show mate, and 31 00:02:00,961 --> 00:02:03,961 Speaker 5: those things that you just mentioned, like that brings up 32 00:02:04,001 --> 00:02:07,241 Speaker 5: a few feelings it away because it is a struggle out. 33 00:02:07,361 --> 00:02:09,401 Speaker 5: You're trying to do this. You cop a lot of hate. 34 00:02:09,681 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 5: I heard you mentioned that. You know. It's just yeah, look, 35 00:02:13,761 --> 00:02:17,241 Speaker 5: it's just just weighs heavy on me at times. 36 00:02:17,281 --> 00:02:20,121 Speaker 4: You know. You know, I've got to be honest. I 37 00:02:20,161 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 4: try not to play into any of the you know, 38 00:02:23,281 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 4: the bullshit comments. And look I had, you know, some 39 00:02:27,721 --> 00:02:30,121 Speaker 4: comments even in a YouTube thing where I did a 40 00:02:30,441 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 4: interview with Gary Jubilant and you know, you've got sort 41 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:35,641 Speaker 4: of the old ex Crims throwing out she shit calls, 42 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:37,481 Speaker 4: you know, making out like you're a piece of shit, 43 00:02:37,561 --> 00:02:39,881 Speaker 4: You're no good. Can't this sort of talk? And then 44 00:02:39,881 --> 00:02:42,601 Speaker 4: you've got, you know, the heat side of the fence 45 00:02:42,641 --> 00:02:45,081 Speaker 4: of oh, you're just a scumbag that's set up a copper. 46 00:02:45,121 --> 00:02:47,681 Speaker 4: You know, you'll never change, you know, you just you always, 47 00:02:47,721 --> 00:02:51,481 Speaker 4: you always, And they do way heavy, especially when you 48 00:02:51,561 --> 00:02:53,681 Speaker 4: know what you bring to the table and the contribution 49 00:02:53,841 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 4: you're making to life and the community and trying to 50 00:02:56,321 --> 00:02:59,441 Speaker 4: help people. I mean a simple comment which you'll laugh about, 51 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 4: you know, you often see and I must say thank 52 00:03:02,041 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 4: you to everybody out there that gets on and does 53 00:03:04,041 --> 00:03:07,561 Speaker 4: leave a comment in the columns where you're allowed to 54 00:03:07,721 --> 00:03:10,321 Speaker 4: obviously express yourself ratings and sol on that. I mean, 55 00:03:10,481 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 4: we ninety percent of the time. 56 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:11,761 Speaker 5: Thing. 57 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:14,081 Speaker 4: We're at four point seven after four years, so I 58 00:03:14,081 --> 00:03:16,641 Speaker 4: can't complain. It's that's a pretty good rating in thousands 59 00:03:16,641 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 4: of comments. But the funny thing is that comes up 60 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,761 Speaker 4: a lot is oh, really wanted to listen in. I 61 00:03:22,921 --> 00:03:26,641 Speaker 4: really wanted to get but unfortunately Brent was talking or 62 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:29,761 Speaker 4: Brent was sharing this. Well, hello, Fuckheed. 63 00:03:30,161 --> 00:03:32,001 Speaker 6: Obviously I've got to share it and I've got to 64 00:03:32,041 --> 00:03:34,161 Speaker 6: interact with my guests, and we do have a lot 65 00:03:34,201 --> 00:03:37,401 Speaker 6: in common because this is how the clin started, or 66 00:03:37,481 --> 00:03:41,041 Speaker 6: based off my story, which it is something that is 67 00:03:41,081 --> 00:03:43,921 Speaker 6: relatable to so many of my guests now over two 68 00:03:44,041 --> 00:03:47,201 Speaker 6: hundred guests, and look, I'm really sorry if that has 69 00:03:47,481 --> 00:03:49,601 Speaker 6: given somebody a little bit of salt in your wound. 70 00:03:49,601 --> 00:03:51,761 Speaker 6: But if you're feeling that salty in and you can't 71 00:03:51,801 --> 00:03:55,121 Speaker 6: accept hearing me and the guest interact, then please go 72 00:03:55,281 --> 00:03:57,161 Speaker 6: on listen to another podcast, because at the end of 73 00:03:57,201 --> 00:03:58,761 Speaker 6: the day, there's always going to be somebody else that 74 00:03:58,841 --> 00:04:00,761 Speaker 6: jumps in your seat and goes, how good was that? 75 00:04:00,881 --> 00:04:03,361 Speaker 6: And that's what we strive to do is bring you 76 00:04:03,521 --> 00:04:08,121 Speaker 6: the best, real true stories of success, redemption and just 77 00:04:08,241 --> 00:04:09,201 Speaker 6: powerful stories. 78 00:04:09,361 --> 00:04:12,601 Speaker 4: Danny, I really got to give you credit on your story, 79 00:04:13,721 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 4: and it is one that's so worthy. You know, you're 80 00:04:17,121 --> 00:04:21,561 Speaker 4: a dad, you're a husband, You definitely live what you 81 00:04:21,681 --> 00:04:25,601 Speaker 4: preach and each day you take those steps forward in recovery. 82 00:04:25,761 --> 00:04:27,801 Speaker 4: For those that don't know you, let's take them back 83 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 4: on a journey, because it is an in depth journey 84 00:04:29,921 --> 00:04:32,761 Speaker 4: and something that we've got to squash into a period 85 00:04:32,801 --> 00:04:35,681 Speaker 4: of time, and I want everybody to understand who you 86 00:04:35,721 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 4: really were and what life was like to the man 87 00:04:38,521 --> 00:04:41,241 Speaker 4: that you are today and the massive over the last 88 00:04:41,401 --> 00:04:42,681 Speaker 4: god knows how many years. 89 00:04:42,921 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 5: I mean, fifteen years, five months, and two days. Claim. 90 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,721 Speaker 5: We'll just going back to that. The negativity of course, 91 00:04:50,401 --> 00:04:53,961 Speaker 5: being in the in the spotlight. Sometimes it does draw 92 00:04:53,961 --> 00:04:57,481 Speaker 5: a bit of negative attention and it does be heavy 93 00:04:57,521 --> 00:04:59,801 Speaker 5: on me at times. But you know, we also learn 94 00:05:00,281 --> 00:05:02,601 Speaker 5: on this journey. Well I've certainly learned on this journey 95 00:05:02,641 --> 00:05:05,921 Speaker 5: that I think it's the words integrity or fronting up. 96 00:05:05,961 --> 00:05:08,281 Speaker 5: I just need to keep running up. And I do 97 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:12,121 Speaker 5: know through all the mostly positive feedback, the impact that 98 00:05:12,161 --> 00:05:14,121 Speaker 5: I'm having. So what am I going to let that 99 00:05:14,161 --> 00:05:18,001 Speaker 5: one person in the room get me down? Sometimes I 100 00:05:18,041 --> 00:05:20,241 Speaker 5: want to, but I will not mate. I will not 101 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:23,121 Speaker 5: do that. If I did, I probably would fail at 102 00:05:23,121 --> 00:05:25,401 Speaker 5: my own recovery too, because in a way, that's kind 103 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:28,881 Speaker 5: of what recovery is. Like. You know, I picked up 104 00:05:28,961 --> 00:05:33,761 Speaker 5: drugs at a young age, but fourteen, it's horrible to 105 00:05:33,801 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 5: hear how young people are picking up drugs these days. 106 00:05:36,921 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 5: Like fourteen, that's old, that's getting old. Some of the 107 00:05:41,001 --> 00:05:43,921 Speaker 5: horrible stories I hear from, you know, like nine year olds, 108 00:05:43,961 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 5: ten year olds, eleven year olds who are smoke picking 109 00:05:48,401 --> 00:05:50,921 Speaker 5: up drugs and drinking at a younger age. I know 110 00:05:51,001 --> 00:05:54,001 Speaker 5: that's common, but anyway, for me, it was fourteen, I 111 00:05:54,081 --> 00:05:59,041 Speaker 5: quickly fell into I don't know if you'd call it addiction, 112 00:05:59,201 --> 00:06:03,681 Speaker 5: but I'm into regular use of smoking pot and sounding 113 00:06:03,681 --> 00:06:09,241 Speaker 5: to drink so daddled with speed and LSD and magic mushrooms. 114 00:06:09,601 --> 00:06:12,481 Speaker 5: By the age of fifteen, I tried all of those things. 115 00:06:12,481 --> 00:06:15,841 Speaker 5: Brand i'd done this little bit of a move a 116 00:06:16,001 --> 00:06:18,681 Speaker 5: geographical my mom and dad. Let me give mom and 117 00:06:18,721 --> 00:06:21,681 Speaker 5: Dad a shout out. First, Mom is this beautiful soul 118 00:06:21,721 --> 00:06:24,361 Speaker 5: who taught me all of my values and morals. Her 119 00:06:24,401 --> 00:06:26,801 Speaker 5: name's Maria. She gets a shout out and every other 120 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:30,401 Speaker 5: my sort of interviews because she played such a massive role. 121 00:06:30,561 --> 00:06:33,401 Speaker 5: And then my dad, he's an a legend too recently 122 00:06:33,521 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 5: just passed away. He's nicknamed Shonky. He taught me everything 123 00:06:36,921 --> 00:06:39,481 Speaker 5: I shouldn't know. You know, my dad was my fence 124 00:06:39,561 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 5: for fifteen years, me and my Mayde. He used to 125 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:44,841 Speaker 5: buy all our sole and equipment, and he put in 126 00:06:45,001 --> 00:06:48,321 Speaker 5: orders that my mom was his beautiful, loving soul who 127 00:06:48,361 --> 00:06:51,001 Speaker 5: would just always be shaking her head, and she would 128 00:06:51,121 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 5: visit me in jail every week. And so with my dad. 129 00:06:53,801 --> 00:06:55,721 Speaker 5: Mom would bring the love, my dad would bring the 130 00:06:55,841 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 5: drop that bring me roles or whatever it was. So 131 00:06:59,201 --> 00:07:03,441 Speaker 5: bless my dad. Man. I always told my dad Tony 132 00:07:03,521 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 5: as well. I think this plays a role too. So 133 00:07:06,081 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 5: I've never had a dad really, you know, I just 134 00:07:08,481 --> 00:07:11,721 Speaker 5: always called him Tony. He taught me everything I should know. 135 00:07:11,801 --> 00:07:15,241 Speaker 5: My mom My mom, I would say, is responsible for 136 00:07:15,321 --> 00:07:19,881 Speaker 5: this good spirit and values and morals that I have today. Anyway, 137 00:07:20,401 --> 00:07:23,761 Speaker 5: that shit all went out the window pretty quickly by 138 00:07:23,761 --> 00:07:26,721 Speaker 5: the age of fifteen. I first I said I would 139 00:07:26,721 --> 00:07:29,721 Speaker 5: never touch heroin. You know, I played before those other things, 140 00:07:30,041 --> 00:07:32,361 Speaker 5: and I didn't call them addiction yet because I think 141 00:07:32,361 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 5: I was just experimenting, dabbling. But I picked up Heroin 142 00:07:36,321 --> 00:07:40,121 Speaker 5: at fifteen in our mate for the next That was 143 00:07:40,161 --> 00:07:43,041 Speaker 5: the beginning of the end. Bro From the next seventeen years, 144 00:07:43,081 --> 00:07:45,601 Speaker 5: I never missed a day of it since then. 145 00:07:45,681 --> 00:07:48,441 Speaker 4: You know that was a you know when you talk 146 00:07:48,721 --> 00:07:52,121 Speaker 4: like you just said, I never missed a day of it. 147 00:07:53,201 --> 00:07:56,081 Speaker 4: I only spoke with a Chap the other day and 148 00:07:56,201 --> 00:07:59,681 Speaker 4: we were talking about the commitment that us that have 149 00:08:01,281 --> 00:08:08,401 Speaker 4: criminal drug addiction pass what we did. Okay, once again, 150 00:08:08,441 --> 00:08:10,361 Speaker 4: we don't get on here and glorify any of it. 151 00:08:10,361 --> 00:08:13,001 Speaker 4: It's just it is part of each and every guest story, 152 00:08:13,121 --> 00:08:16,681 Speaker 4: so it needs to be spoken of the biggest thing 153 00:08:16,921 --> 00:08:20,641 Speaker 4: is like people say to me, now, okay, your business 154 00:08:20,761 --> 00:08:22,441 Speaker 4: is doing well, it's growing, you know, I've got a 155 00:08:22,441 --> 00:08:26,361 Speaker 4: pressure clean business, and most definitely it's you know, not 156 00:08:26,401 --> 00:08:30,201 Speaker 4: at it even a quarter of its peak? Moving forward? 157 00:08:31,121 --> 00:08:33,401 Speaker 4: Why do I push so hard? I work seven days 158 00:08:33,441 --> 00:08:36,001 Speaker 4: a week, whatever hour of the day. It doesn't bother me, 159 00:08:36,601 --> 00:08:39,441 Speaker 4: And I push it back to my mentality. They've grown 160 00:08:39,521 --> 00:08:42,441 Speaker 4: up on the streets, the hustle, you know, the need 161 00:08:42,521 --> 00:08:45,001 Speaker 4: to have to have money, the need to actually have 162 00:08:45,001 --> 00:08:47,961 Speaker 4: to put a roof over my head, clothing on my back. Yeah, okay, 163 00:08:48,001 --> 00:08:50,241 Speaker 4: they weren't the right choices, but I knew no different 164 00:08:50,441 --> 00:08:54,201 Speaker 4: growing up. It was survival and it's just what life 165 00:08:55,121 --> 00:08:56,401 Speaker 4: was and the cards that you were dealt with. You 166 00:08:56,441 --> 00:09:00,081 Speaker 4: talk about your addiction, the commitment of seventeen years of 167 00:09:00,121 --> 00:09:02,921 Speaker 4: never missing a day. Go and find some fucking body 168 00:09:02,921 --> 00:09:05,281 Speaker 4: that turns up to work every day for seventeen years 169 00:09:05,321 --> 00:09:08,001 Speaker 4: and tell me that they are committed to their job. 170 00:09:08,161 --> 00:09:09,561 Speaker 4: And I can tell you now, there ain't going to 171 00:09:09,601 --> 00:09:12,441 Speaker 4: be anybody out there but yet an addict as the 172 00:09:12,481 --> 00:09:14,441 Speaker 4: best commitment to fucking life. 173 00:09:15,361 --> 00:09:18,801 Speaker 5: It's so true, Brent, and in that time too, bro, 174 00:09:18,921 --> 00:09:22,241 Speaker 5: like I spent say seven of those years in custody, 175 00:09:22,241 --> 00:09:24,481 Speaker 5: and I was still stoned every day. Like that's real 176 00:09:24,521 --> 00:09:27,881 Speaker 5: commitment if you can get dooned in jail every day. Now, 177 00:09:28,281 --> 00:09:30,401 Speaker 5: given I was on a big dose of methadone, so 178 00:09:30,441 --> 00:09:32,761 Speaker 5: I would count that as being stone. But I was 179 00:09:32,761 --> 00:09:37,641 Speaker 5: smoking pidon, using fucking amphetamines in prison walls on. Fucking 180 00:09:37,921 --> 00:09:40,281 Speaker 5: It was a bit hard to use heroin in prison 181 00:09:40,321 --> 00:09:42,321 Speaker 5: because I would never get enough. You know, I was 182 00:09:42,361 --> 00:09:44,361 Speaker 5: on a big doos of methadone by the end of it. 183 00:09:44,441 --> 00:09:46,921 Speaker 4: Better, Well, this is the thing, you know, like and 184 00:09:47,001 --> 00:09:49,881 Speaker 4: as you know what you're seeing there with back in 185 00:09:49,921 --> 00:09:52,241 Speaker 4: the days before the bube and subby came down with 186 00:09:52,321 --> 00:09:56,601 Speaker 4: the methadone, like the transition between someone's mouth to another 187 00:09:56,681 --> 00:10:01,961 Speaker 4: person's or a dabble and a dirty shot. I countless 188 00:10:01,961 --> 00:10:04,601 Speaker 4: times had walked past cells and blokes had just scotten 189 00:10:04,601 --> 00:10:07,401 Speaker 4: a drop someone out of the dome the next minute 190 00:10:07,401 --> 00:10:08,241 Speaker 4: from a dirty shot. 191 00:10:08,401 --> 00:10:10,681 Speaker 5: Remember the spew man like the spew. 192 00:10:10,561 --> 00:10:16,441 Speaker 4: Ah, yes, browing the little little cotton bits and sticking around. 193 00:10:16,521 --> 00:10:20,561 Speaker 5: And I had a dirty shot once too, from getting 194 00:10:20,561 --> 00:10:23,961 Speaker 5: it out of my own mouth and spitting into it 195 00:10:24,041 --> 00:10:26,881 Speaker 5: through a straw into a cup. I can't believe it's 196 00:10:26,881 --> 00:10:28,761 Speaker 5: got straight cleaning. Didn't get onto it, and then don't take 197 00:10:28,801 --> 00:10:30,961 Speaker 5: it outside and shoot it up And I ended up 198 00:10:30,961 --> 00:10:33,561 Speaker 5: with a dirty shot. It was the most sickest I 199 00:10:33,601 --> 00:10:36,281 Speaker 5: have ever been for three days. I was just like 200 00:10:37,121 --> 00:10:39,281 Speaker 5: death warmed up, you know And do you think that 201 00:10:39,401 --> 00:10:41,681 Speaker 5: stopped me? I did it again after that, you know? So? 202 00:10:42,601 --> 00:10:46,681 Speaker 4: And that's the thing with you talking about commitment. You 203 00:10:46,721 --> 00:10:48,921 Speaker 4: actually you actually went on the run and got out 204 00:10:48,961 --> 00:10:50,761 Speaker 4: of jail, didn't you. Yeah, you took off. 205 00:10:51,881 --> 00:10:55,561 Speaker 5: I did. I did scale the twenty four foot fence 206 00:10:55,601 --> 00:10:59,081 Speaker 5: with a big four foot barreling in two thousand and one, 207 00:10:59,481 --> 00:11:01,361 Speaker 5: brend I did manage to get up on top of 208 00:11:01,401 --> 00:11:04,721 Speaker 5: that fence during a religious event called. 209 00:11:04,521 --> 00:11:06,361 Speaker 4: Oh you weren't so you weren't half pieh on the 210 00:11:06,401 --> 00:11:08,081 Speaker 4: nod and just felt like going for a walk. 211 00:11:08,761 --> 00:11:13,241 Speaker 5: Do you remember chorus they've had Chorus Chorus is an 212 00:11:13,281 --> 00:11:16,281 Speaker 5: event that they run him in the visiting areas in prison. 213 00:11:16,881 --> 00:11:19,001 Speaker 5: And I managed to at the end of that event 214 00:11:19,681 --> 00:11:21,601 Speaker 5: duck out of the back or everybody was in there 215 00:11:21,601 --> 00:11:26,041 Speaker 5: holding hands singing Kumbaya, and I managed to fucking scout 216 00:11:26,161 --> 00:11:28,241 Speaker 5: the fence and I got up on top of the 217 00:11:28,281 --> 00:11:31,641 Speaker 5: barrel fans. I'm still one hundred meters from the outside. 218 00:11:31,641 --> 00:11:34,121 Speaker 5: And as I was creeping along the fence kind of 219 00:11:34,121 --> 00:11:38,041 Speaker 5: like you know, like this, an officer I call him 220 00:11:38,041 --> 00:11:40,041 Speaker 5: mister Sink because he had the turb and he spotted 221 00:11:40,081 --> 00:11:41,881 Speaker 5: me up on the fence and he was straight on 222 00:11:41,921 --> 00:11:44,681 Speaker 5: the radio. So the chase was was on. Bro, the squad, 223 00:11:44,761 --> 00:11:49,241 Speaker 5: the U, they all got called. But I did manage 224 00:11:49,281 --> 00:11:51,561 Speaker 5: to get away. Bro, the good old U. 225 00:11:51,721 --> 00:11:53,481 Speaker 4: You don't hear that set any more. Listens from one 226 00:11:53,521 --> 00:11:57,481 Speaker 4: of the old boys, the Malabar Emergency Units. Yeah, now 227 00:11:57,801 --> 00:12:00,801 Speaker 4: it's a whole different terminology. But if you know someone 228 00:12:00,801 --> 00:12:03,321 Speaker 4: that's actually dealt with the MU, you know that they've 229 00:12:03,361 --> 00:12:04,761 Speaker 4: been absolutely flogged. 230 00:12:04,761 --> 00:12:12,161 Speaker 5: And well, yeah, yeah there you got your fucking put 231 00:12:12,201 --> 00:12:15,161 Speaker 5: you to put a stop to whatever behavior's going on 232 00:12:15,521 --> 00:12:18,241 Speaker 5: the MU. So yeah, I got away. 233 00:12:18,521 --> 00:12:21,921 Speaker 4: You did, and you you know, you're out living what 234 00:12:21,961 --> 00:12:25,601 Speaker 4: you thought was just a life of well, I guess 235 00:12:26,441 --> 00:12:29,281 Speaker 4: it was addiction. You're in addiction. You you you're out there, 236 00:12:29,361 --> 00:12:31,521 Speaker 4: You're you're running the ball up to make an earn. 237 00:12:31,601 --> 00:12:35,681 Speaker 4: You're doing whatever you're doing. Where was your mindset back then? 238 00:12:36,481 --> 00:12:39,881 Speaker 5: Man? Yeah, Brandon, I love that let's because it was. 239 00:12:39,921 --> 00:12:41,841 Speaker 5: That's just all the mess, you know, like it was. 240 00:12:42,241 --> 00:12:46,041 Speaker 5: It's just your typical fucking garden variety heroin age with 241 00:12:46,121 --> 00:12:50,201 Speaker 5: a will to using and get more drugs like no else, 242 00:12:50,321 --> 00:12:53,961 Speaker 5: you know, the obsession and compulsion like it's like I've 243 00:12:53,961 --> 00:12:56,801 Speaker 5: got this devil, this animal in time that needs to 244 00:12:56,801 --> 00:13:01,001 Speaker 5: get onto. To answer your question, all I cared about 245 00:13:01,041 --> 00:13:03,841 Speaker 5: bro was certainly not my life, I hate to say, 246 00:13:03,961 --> 00:13:07,041 Speaker 5: not even my family. How I was affecting my family, 247 00:13:07,641 --> 00:13:11,281 Speaker 5: I thought, I honestly thought, how am I hurting you guys? 248 00:13:11,361 --> 00:13:14,241 Speaker 5: You know this is so fucking selfish? Man? How am 249 00:13:14,281 --> 00:13:17,681 Speaker 5: I hurting my mom my sister? All I'm doing is 250 00:13:17,761 --> 00:13:20,281 Speaker 5: hurting myself. You know That's the way I used to think, 251 00:13:21,281 --> 00:13:24,241 Speaker 5: And mate, I would do anything to get stones, you know. 252 00:13:25,721 --> 00:13:29,881 Speaker 5: So you know that would include using dirty and decting 253 00:13:30,081 --> 00:13:33,481 Speaker 5: equipment who have been include you know, breaking into factories 254 00:13:33,481 --> 00:13:38,401 Speaker 5: and I high speed police pursuits, you know, stealing cars 255 00:13:39,001 --> 00:13:42,041 Speaker 5: or I just had to get on to change the 256 00:13:42,041 --> 00:13:45,161 Speaker 5: way I felt because I hated how I felt straight. 257 00:13:45,281 --> 00:13:47,641 Speaker 5: I couldn't well. I was never straight for longer than 258 00:13:48,001 --> 00:13:49,921 Speaker 5: a couple of hours in all those years, you. 259 00:13:49,881 --> 00:13:52,321 Speaker 4: Know, with that Danny I just want to ask you 260 00:13:52,401 --> 00:13:55,081 Speaker 4: because you know, as we both know, I'm well aware 261 00:13:55,081 --> 00:13:58,361 Speaker 4: of today because of our open dialogues and men like 262 00:13:58,441 --> 00:14:01,121 Speaker 4: ourselves and women that are open to sharing their lives 263 00:14:01,161 --> 00:14:04,841 Speaker 4: now and we've lost that shame of holding back and 264 00:14:05,201 --> 00:14:08,041 Speaker 4: pressing things that have happened to us. For you, was 265 00:14:08,081 --> 00:14:12,001 Speaker 4: there anything earlier in your piece that actually triggered these 266 00:14:12,201 --> 00:14:15,281 Speaker 4: events for you to fall into addiction and wanted such 267 00:14:15,321 --> 00:14:19,041 Speaker 4: a young age to indulge in drugs and crime. 268 00:14:19,641 --> 00:14:23,521 Speaker 5: Great question, Brenn. No, Look, well, look the worst to 269 00:14:23,601 --> 00:14:25,521 Speaker 5: God for me. And I think that's a really important 270 00:14:25,521 --> 00:14:29,081 Speaker 5: fact because anyone listening who doesn't come from an essay 271 00:14:29,281 --> 00:14:33,481 Speaker 5: background or even get flogged again like physical abuse, that 272 00:14:33,641 --> 00:14:36,441 Speaker 5: wasn't really my story, bro. What I do know is 273 00:14:36,481 --> 00:14:40,041 Speaker 5: that the day I picked up drugs at fourteen, I became, 274 00:14:40,601 --> 00:14:44,001 Speaker 5: like I remember growing up thinking I want to be 275 00:14:44,641 --> 00:14:46,561 Speaker 5: like that as well, like I used to see, like 276 00:14:47,041 --> 00:14:50,921 Speaker 5: you know, musicians and actors who were really on it 277 00:14:50,961 --> 00:14:53,121 Speaker 5: and getting smashed. I always wanted to be like that, 278 00:14:53,201 --> 00:14:56,481 Speaker 5: but it wasn't true. I don't know. It's just I 279 00:14:56,521 --> 00:14:59,881 Speaker 5: had a pretty good childhood, even though you know, I 280 00:14:59,961 --> 00:15:02,641 Speaker 5: was probably homeless at the age of fourteen, through my 281 00:15:02,681 --> 00:15:06,161 Speaker 5: own choices. I left my family and I went couch 282 00:15:06,161 --> 00:15:09,081 Speaker 5: surfing at a young age when I first picked up drugs. 283 00:15:09,081 --> 00:15:13,001 Speaker 5: But ultimately, no, mate, I didn't come from a background. 284 00:15:13,041 --> 00:15:15,081 Speaker 5: But what I do know is when I picked up drugs, 285 00:15:15,161 --> 00:15:20,001 Speaker 5: I became a different person immediately, So you don't have 286 00:15:20,161 --> 00:15:24,001 Speaker 5: to come from And the reason I say this because 287 00:15:24,001 --> 00:15:26,801 Speaker 5: it's really important, is I used to think I was 288 00:15:26,841 --> 00:15:29,801 Speaker 5: a bit different to other people because maybe maybe I 289 00:15:29,841 --> 00:15:32,641 Speaker 5: didn't have it bad enough to be using. 290 00:15:32,721 --> 00:15:35,921 Speaker 7: But what I do know is to justify you out 291 00:15:35,921 --> 00:15:38,881 Speaker 7: there destroying your life, what's your excuse sort of thing 292 00:15:39,001 --> 00:15:41,881 Speaker 7: to why you're in this addiction, in this doom, in 293 00:15:41,921 --> 00:15:43,521 Speaker 7: this darkness and this pit of hell. 294 00:15:43,801 --> 00:15:47,321 Speaker 5: Basically, what I know is addiction can come in many forms, 295 00:15:47,321 --> 00:15:51,521 Speaker 5: and maybe it's hereditary, maybe it comes from your home life, 296 00:15:51,681 --> 00:15:54,601 Speaker 5: or maybe you're just a fucking animal who loves drugs 297 00:15:54,641 --> 00:15:56,601 Speaker 5: and once they put them into your system, you just 298 00:15:56,721 --> 00:16:00,081 Speaker 5: changed into somebody who wasn't mean. That's kind of the 299 00:16:00,121 --> 00:16:01,921 Speaker 5: story I relate to most, you know. 300 00:16:02,721 --> 00:16:05,961 Speaker 4: I mean, look, we talk about commitment, and I refer 301 00:16:06,041 --> 00:16:08,601 Speaker 4: back to it because I really so with this season 302 00:16:08,641 --> 00:16:11,641 Speaker 4: of The Clink, each episode and each guess. Our goal 303 00:16:11,721 --> 00:16:15,801 Speaker 4: is to give you know, two life important life tools 304 00:16:15,841 --> 00:16:20,641 Speaker 4: to success. So, you know, like everybody has a story, 305 00:16:20,681 --> 00:16:22,801 Speaker 4: and I'm not here to say anybody's story is better 306 00:16:22,881 --> 00:16:25,841 Speaker 4: or worse than others. But my whole objective with the 307 00:16:25,881 --> 00:16:28,601 Speaker 4: Clink now is we've grown and I want to enable 308 00:16:28,641 --> 00:16:30,921 Speaker 4: people to realize out there that are struggling, or people 309 00:16:30,921 --> 00:16:34,161 Speaker 4: that have been where we've been, that are there right now, 310 00:16:34,681 --> 00:16:37,201 Speaker 4: that they have a toolbox at the end of our 311 00:16:37,281 --> 00:16:40,961 Speaker 4: season with you know, twenty different options or steps to 312 00:16:41,081 --> 00:16:46,681 Speaker 4: bettering your life through people like yourself. Another guests for you. 313 00:16:46,681 --> 00:16:49,561 Speaker 4: You've had to learn the hard way, you know, but 314 00:16:49,841 --> 00:16:52,121 Speaker 4: I know and we will get to it. What you 315 00:16:52,161 --> 00:16:55,241 Speaker 4: bring to the table today and what skill sets and 316 00:16:56,041 --> 00:16:58,241 Speaker 4: how to manage And why I touched on the fact 317 00:16:58,241 --> 00:17:02,241 Speaker 4: of the whole you know, the haters and the naysayers 318 00:17:02,281 --> 00:17:06,281 Speaker 4: is because everybody writes off someone in a you just scum, 319 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 4: especially an addict, the heroin addict, You just shit, you know, 320 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 4: like you would remember and for those that do remember, 321 00:17:11,961 --> 00:17:14,001 Speaker 4: I remember walking the streets of Cabra when I was 322 00:17:14,120 --> 00:17:17,321 Speaker 4: very young, teenager and just you know, the streets, the 323 00:17:17,321 --> 00:17:20,441 Speaker 4: gutters were just lined with people on the nod and 324 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:24,640 Speaker 4: it was just vomit, power spews, people just shuffling around 325 00:17:24,721 --> 00:17:28,241 Speaker 4: on the blink, scratching and talking shite. People are having 326 00:17:28,241 --> 00:17:30,120 Speaker 4: shots in the middle of the like it was just 327 00:17:30,561 --> 00:17:33,281 Speaker 4: a scene from an apocalypse that I don't think unless 328 00:17:33,281 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 4: you lived it all were there, you would ever understand. 329 00:17:36,721 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 4: But then I look at the way that society is today, 330 00:17:40,120 --> 00:17:42,360 Speaker 4: and that the type of drug that's being used, and 331 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:47,121 Speaker 4: just the sadness that it has brought. I mean, look, 332 00:17:47,241 --> 00:17:50,360 Speaker 4: it was always a perse snatch or a robbery of 333 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 4: some type, but the way that we now see crime, 334 00:17:56,241 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 4: especially in our young people and in these early addictions, 335 00:17:59,961 --> 00:18:04,081 Speaker 4: and the way that the drugs are bringing out some 336 00:18:04,120 --> 00:18:09,321 Speaker 4: of the most disgusted and putrid acts that we as 337 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:13,161 Speaker 4: men and many people would never accept. But today it's 338 00:18:13,281 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 4: just part of it. I find it, you know, really 339 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:20,400 Speaker 4: really hard to so I guess process, but this is 340 00:18:20,441 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 4: the reality of it. And you're someone who's been very 341 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:27,441 Speaker 4: hands on, especially in you know, the last ten years 342 00:18:27,481 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 4: of you know, being there as a support worker. You know, 343 00:18:31,721 --> 00:18:35,841 Speaker 4: you've you're really in the thick of it, and what 344 00:18:35,961 --> 00:18:38,001 Speaker 4: is it? What is it, Denny? With society in the 345 00:18:38,041 --> 00:18:40,321 Speaker 4: way that we're seeing today, and what's what's your thoughts 346 00:18:40,360 --> 00:18:42,281 Speaker 4: around it from somebody who's lived. 347 00:18:42,041 --> 00:18:45,281 Speaker 5: It, Brent. Just on that note, I've got a seven 348 00:18:45,360 --> 00:18:48,521 Speaker 5: year old daughter who I have castody of at the moment. 349 00:18:48,521 --> 00:18:51,640 Speaker 8: Her mum's away in rehab. Just to clarify, she's not 350 00:18:51,681 --> 00:18:55,400 Speaker 8: my wife, she's just I just look after her. But 351 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:58,640 Speaker 8: on that note, so this stuff that you're talking about 352 00:18:58,721 --> 00:19:03,201 Speaker 8: hits home so so hard because like I'm petrified for her, 353 00:19:03,360 --> 00:19:05,561 Speaker 8: you know, Like, and when I hear some of the 354 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:10,680 Speaker 8: horrific shit that's happening, man, I can't explain it. 355 00:19:10,681 --> 00:19:15,001 Speaker 5: It's fucking disgusting. And all I can put it down 356 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:19,880 Speaker 5: to is, I don't know if online presence plays a 357 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:23,161 Speaker 5: big role, because if you actually look back forty years ago, 358 00:19:23,241 --> 00:19:26,121 Speaker 5: thirty years ago, I know the media plays out back then. 359 00:19:26,801 --> 00:19:28,681 Speaker 5: Back then it was just as fucked up to it's 360 00:19:28,721 --> 00:19:31,120 Speaker 5: just not as mainstream now. I think. I think a 361 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:33,961 Speaker 5: lot of the truth is like now, it's just everybody 362 00:19:34,041 --> 00:19:38,041 Speaker 5: sees what's happening. But anyway, the point is, yeah, these kids, 363 00:19:38,241 --> 00:19:40,521 Speaker 5: this didn't happen back then. The way these kids are 364 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:44,521 Speaker 5: cutting people and doing all that shit. Man, that it's 365 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:47,761 Speaker 5: just so you've got to blame I think their parents 366 00:19:47,761 --> 00:19:49,401 Speaker 5: somewhat like they're growing up. 367 00:19:49,481 --> 00:19:52,001 Speaker 4: I agree both. I agree, look the owner. The ownership 368 00:19:52,041 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 4: comes back as far as I'm concerned as the parents. 369 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:57,441 Speaker 4: And I do a lot of workshops with troubled youth, 370 00:19:57,521 --> 00:20:01,640 Speaker 4: and something that you commonly see is they don't realize 371 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 4: how much alike they all are. And I'm talking about 372 00:20:05,681 --> 00:20:07,521 Speaker 4: the poor kid that's getting picked on because he's the 373 00:20:07,561 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 4: gronk or the whole you know, the group, or the 374 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 4: alpha boy that's sitting on the vape, flexing and kicking 375 00:20:12,481 --> 00:20:15,120 Speaker 4: everyone as he's walking in and shoving. And you know, 376 00:20:16,001 --> 00:20:18,041 Speaker 4: when you break it back and peel it all back, 377 00:20:19,201 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 4: they are all in this same position, and you know, 378 00:20:24,801 --> 00:20:26,920 Speaker 4: I try to bring them all in and at the 379 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:29,921 Speaker 4: end they always seem to be in tears, hugging each other, 380 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:34,241 Speaker 4: and it's a powerful, powerful moment. And you see that, 381 00:20:34,281 --> 00:20:36,881 Speaker 4: you know. But to me, when you hear the stories 382 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:40,281 Speaker 4: of these young people, it falls back into the hands 383 00:20:40,281 --> 00:20:43,241 Speaker 4: of the parents. And I as a parent of four, mate, 384 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,481 Speaker 4: I could have brought my style of living from years 385 00:20:46,521 --> 00:20:50,321 Speaker 4: ago into my lifestyle, raised my children in a certain 386 00:20:50,360 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 4: way that gave them that same sort of I guess 387 00:20:53,961 --> 00:20:57,001 Speaker 4: look at life and that it's okay to do things 388 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:59,880 Speaker 4: like this and don't worry about your education or going 389 00:20:59,921 --> 00:21:02,281 Speaker 4: to school or your sports. Don't worry about it. Go 390 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 4: get stayn with your mates, Get on the pierce at 391 00:21:04,281 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 4: forty dead. I was locked up there in two years 392 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 4: at the age of thirteen, and I was drinking bottles 393 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 4: of Southern Comfort and fucking Jack Daniels and old turkey 394 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 4: and a bag of fucking gas, like let's go. That 395 00:21:16,281 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 4: was life, you know. Today, it's just it seems that 396 00:21:22,681 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 4: life struggles are hard, and this is you know, the 397 00:21:25,961 --> 00:21:28,360 Speaker 4: purpose once again of why we're here today is to 398 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,281 Speaker 4: try and help those out there that really want to 399 00:21:30,360 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 4: change and make difference in their life. But you know, 400 00:21:34,681 --> 00:21:36,641 Speaker 4: we've got to look at the fact that where they're 401 00:21:36,681 --> 00:21:40,041 Speaker 4: coming from, what environment have they been exposed to? What 402 00:21:40,360 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 4: is the norm in that home? Is it normal for 403 00:21:43,481 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 4: a thirteen year old boy looking after his you know, 404 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 4: six month old baby sister while mum's got five blokes 405 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 4: lined up in the lound room, who hasn't slept for 406 00:21:52,120 --> 00:21:54,881 Speaker 4: two days. And this is the facts. And you ask 407 00:21:54,961 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 4: these kids, you know, like would you like to be 408 00:21:57,041 --> 00:21:59,521 Speaker 4: put somewhere else? I can't leave my sister. I can't 409 00:21:59,561 --> 00:22:03,801 Speaker 4: leave my little brother. It's heartbreaking, It's absolutely fucking heartbreaking. 410 00:22:03,801 --> 00:22:07,281 Speaker 4: But what will happen to that young person? Statistically, that 411 00:22:07,441 --> 00:22:11,640 Speaker 4: young person will do what they are seeing and become 412 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:12,961 Speaker 4: a product of their environment. 413 00:22:13,481 --> 00:22:16,001 Speaker 5: Yeah. Man, it's so it's so horrible. You know, so 414 00:22:16,120 --> 00:22:19,360 Speaker 5: often I have to literally because this stuff has such 415 00:22:19,360 --> 00:22:21,641 Speaker 5: a big impact on me. So often I have to 416 00:22:21,681 --> 00:22:24,640 Speaker 5: just go to this place where I go, Okay, this 417 00:22:24,761 --> 00:22:26,360 Speaker 5: is the world we live in, you know, like and 418 00:22:26,481 --> 00:22:29,001 Speaker 5: it's like I have to do that for my own 419 00:22:29,041 --> 00:22:32,841 Speaker 5: sanity because I you know, that thing room where room 420 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,640 Speaker 5: and as vite caris trauma. Because I work for a 421 00:22:35,681 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 5: lot of these people, it can really bring up a 422 00:22:37,961 --> 00:22:40,721 Speaker 5: lot of those feelings, you know, Like can I just say, 423 00:22:40,761 --> 00:22:44,281 Speaker 5: like this morning and most mornings, I got up, I 424 00:22:44,321 --> 00:22:47,761 Speaker 5: opened my Doorter's bedroom, I said, good morning, babe. She 425 00:22:47,921 --> 00:22:51,721 Speaker 5: showed stressed, kicked you out. I went and I went 426 00:22:51,801 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 5: and jumped in the shower. Come back and I laid 427 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:55,961 Speaker 5: down with her and I said, you know, I said, 428 00:22:56,001 --> 00:22:58,440 Speaker 5: what did you dream about? You know, like I just 429 00:22:58,241 --> 00:23:01,321 Speaker 5: I just give her this my own conditional love, Like 430 00:23:02,360 --> 00:23:04,561 Speaker 5: I know that I'm very fortunate maybe that I can 431 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:07,521 Speaker 5: do that. I mean I love this little girl so much. 432 00:23:07,561 --> 00:23:10,521 Speaker 5: But imagine if every kid can have that fucking love 433 00:23:10,921 --> 00:23:13,721 Speaker 5: every morning, and you know that take you off to 434 00:23:13,801 --> 00:23:17,120 Speaker 5: school and say goodbye, let her how about the car 435 00:23:17,561 --> 00:23:19,481 Speaker 5: and walks up to the fence book because it gives 436 00:23:19,521 --> 00:23:22,481 Speaker 5: her a bit of independence, like all that stuff. That's 437 00:23:22,521 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 5: really how I'm molding this beautiful and she sees the 438 00:23:26,481 --> 00:23:30,041 Speaker 5: stuff I do helping people like, I don't know that's 439 00:23:30,041 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 5: a bloomone, han, but that's what you want. That's the 440 00:23:32,801 --> 00:23:35,001 Speaker 5: kind of figures we want for fucking kids. 441 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 4: And you know, like I often say this all I 442 00:23:38,561 --> 00:23:40,880 Speaker 4: ask of my children every day and I'm the same, 443 00:23:41,001 --> 00:23:42,881 Speaker 4: you know, like I've got a daughter at seventeen, she's 444 00:23:42,921 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 4: legally blind. At the moment, I'm on my own raising 445 00:23:46,120 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 4: my children, doing a bloody good job. And that's not 446 00:23:49,281 --> 00:23:52,801 Speaker 4: a discredit. They've got a beautiful mom. She's a fantastic moment. 447 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 4: It's just the situation and I'm happy to be full 448 00:23:56,120 --> 00:23:58,120 Speaker 4: time with It's just what it is. But then you 449 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,281 Speaker 4: know you're running a business, You've got all these side 450 00:24:00,360 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 4: hustles because you want to try and be the best 451 00:24:02,921 --> 00:24:06,400 Speaker 4: version of yourself provide and as a man or as 452 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,561 Speaker 4: a woman today, when you're one out, you can't you 453 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:13,321 Speaker 4: can't provide for a family if you're not hustling, if 454 00:24:13,321 --> 00:24:15,241 Speaker 4: you're not out there with at least two or three 455 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 4: incomes coming out, you're not going to get through and 456 00:24:19,961 --> 00:24:22,041 Speaker 4: you will have to resort to other things. And this 457 00:24:22,921 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 4: is the reality of society and life today. So you know, 458 00:24:26,681 --> 00:24:30,041 Speaker 4: people are struggling, people already that were struggling prior to 459 00:24:31,001 --> 00:24:33,201 Speaker 4: you know, the heavier things in life and their own 460 00:24:33,201 --> 00:24:36,001 Speaker 4: addictions and bad habits, which then as their children are 461 00:24:36,001 --> 00:24:37,961 Speaker 4: getting older that are seeing more of it, being more 462 00:24:38,001 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 4: exposed to. You know, that care factor of trying to 463 00:24:41,321 --> 00:24:44,321 Speaker 4: cover things up and hide from it is just non 464 00:24:44,360 --> 00:24:48,521 Speaker 4: existent anymore because it's just the norm. It is very hard, 465 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:50,921 Speaker 4: you know, for me and for you, with our old 466 00:24:50,921 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 4: school morals. Is the last thing we want is our 467 00:24:53,321 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 4: children to ever take a step in our shoes, ever 468 00:24:56,600 --> 00:25:00,241 Speaker 4: from the past. Walk forward with me today all day 469 00:25:00,321 --> 00:25:02,961 Speaker 4: long and be the best version of yourself. And life 470 00:25:03,001 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 4: ain't fucking perfect because it's a roller coaster, but you know, 471 00:25:07,001 --> 00:25:12,281 Speaker 4: we have ways of being able to reach out today. 472 00:25:12,441 --> 00:25:18,160 Speaker 4: Speak ask for help is their talk for me. My 473 00:25:18,321 --> 00:25:21,761 Speaker 4: kids know me, they know all about Dad. There's nothing hidden. 474 00:25:22,521 --> 00:25:24,360 Speaker 4: I don't want them to hide from an I want 475 00:25:24,441 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 4: them to know because now they can walk around a 476 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 4: playground and see that a young person is struggling, and 477 00:25:29,761 --> 00:25:32,281 Speaker 4: they reach out and they can notice their body languages 478 00:25:32,321 --> 00:25:34,961 Speaker 4: and normal or they pick up on conversation and they 479 00:25:35,001 --> 00:25:38,400 Speaker 4: see different things that they choose to step away from 480 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,360 Speaker 4: because they know where it's leading. And I'm very proud 481 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,880 Speaker 4: of that as you I'm sure, our brother, because you know, 482 00:25:44,001 --> 00:25:47,561 Speaker 4: like just saying what you just said there, we are 483 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,761 Speaker 4: being the best version of ourselves for ourselves, but for 484 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:51,640 Speaker 4: our children. 485 00:25:52,681 --> 00:25:55,160 Speaker 5: This isn't a lot of selfishness, Like a lot of 486 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,721 Speaker 5: this fucking shit can be stopped, Like just stop being 487 00:25:57,721 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 5: so fucking selfish when it comes to kids, Broun. I'm 488 00:26:01,120 --> 00:26:04,360 Speaker 5: so passionate, Like if someone's using drugs abuse themselves, I 489 00:26:04,441 --> 00:26:06,281 Speaker 5: get it. When it comes to the kids, you got 490 00:26:06,360 --> 00:26:08,641 Speaker 5: nerve fucking right. And it's easy for me to say 491 00:26:08,681 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 5: that because I guess, look, bro, my son I haven't 492 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,481 Speaker 5: mentioned my son grew up visiting me in the first 493 00:26:13,481 --> 00:26:16,321 Speaker 5: half of his life in prison and the institutions. You know, 494 00:26:16,721 --> 00:26:20,400 Speaker 5: I don't know how I could be for this moral 495 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,041 Speaker 5: high ground, but now it doesn't battle like I have 496 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,001 Speaker 5: to protect my daughter and I have to try and 497 00:26:26,041 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 5: protect any kids as well, because you know, like I 498 00:26:30,360 --> 00:26:33,321 Speaker 5: was a selfish fucker that was doing all that stuff 499 00:26:33,441 --> 00:26:36,281 Speaker 5: and you know, nobody else confixed for me. Not a 500 00:26:36,321 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 5: million dollars could change. I was the one. I had 501 00:26:38,801 --> 00:26:41,321 Speaker 5: to man up. I had to find some tools and 502 00:26:41,360 --> 00:26:44,041 Speaker 5: I had to stop fucking using as simple as that. 503 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,321 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I love that and I relate, you know, 504 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,401 Speaker 4: twenty six year old son myself that you know, unfortunately 505 00:26:51,120 --> 00:26:54,640 Speaker 4: he knows I love him, But those those years are gone, 506 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,561 Speaker 4: all that year's spend in jail and you know he's 507 00:26:57,681 --> 00:27:01,160 Speaker 4: mum raising him and basically saying enough. You know, like 508 00:27:01,321 --> 00:27:03,120 Speaker 4: you're not going to be spoken speaking to him because 509 00:27:03,120 --> 00:27:05,400 Speaker 4: you had your chances. Yeah, I did, and asked me 510 00:27:05,481 --> 00:27:07,041 Speaker 4: years ago, and I would have said, ah, she's this 511 00:27:07,120 --> 00:27:09,521 Speaker 4: and that, you know, but no, she was right. He 512 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,400 Speaker 4: didn't deserve to have to continually come into jail and 513 00:27:12,481 --> 00:27:15,880 Speaker 4: visit me, and you know, yeah, okay, it's hurting the 514 00:27:15,961 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 4: years after, but this is the point you need to 515 00:27:20,041 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 4: take ownership. And you know, today's episode, I really feel 516 00:27:25,120 --> 00:27:27,601 Speaker 4: carries a lot of weight. And I know because of 517 00:27:27,961 --> 00:27:30,041 Speaker 4: your background and where you are today, you know, the 518 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:35,360 Speaker 4: ownership and that not caring about what people fucking think 519 00:27:35,441 --> 00:27:38,721 Speaker 4: and embracing you know, like as we say we do. Yeah, 520 00:27:38,801 --> 00:27:43,721 Speaker 4: we get triggered like anybody, but do we come over 521 00:27:43,761 --> 00:27:46,761 Speaker 4: the top of it and realize that we're better than that? 522 00:27:47,201 --> 00:27:49,001 Speaker 4: And you're never going to see that person in the street. 523 00:27:49,120 --> 00:27:50,681 Speaker 4: They're never going to come and tappy on the show 524 00:27:50,761 --> 00:27:52,761 Speaker 4: and say, hey, you're a fucking doug, You're a weak, 525 00:27:52,801 --> 00:27:54,681 Speaker 4: can't do this, and that you're not going to say 526 00:27:54,761 --> 00:27:57,880 Speaker 4: to your face, you know, so it really doesn't matter. 527 00:27:58,241 --> 00:28:01,761 Speaker 4: I think, you know, as I do contradict sometimes myself 528 00:28:01,801 --> 00:28:04,481 Speaker 4: because I do react. I try not to, but. 529 00:28:07,801 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's over. Yeah, look, you'll never. 530 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,721 Speaker 4: You'll never see anybody pat you on the back when 531 00:28:12,721 --> 00:28:15,761 Speaker 4: you're up, when you're winning. I'll always pull you back 532 00:28:15,761 --> 00:28:17,241 Speaker 4: when they're jealous that you're up winning. 533 00:28:17,360 --> 00:28:19,401 Speaker 5: I think it's okay to talk about, you know why, 534 00:28:19,521 --> 00:28:23,321 Speaker 5: because I think it shows transparency. It just shows that, 535 00:28:23,441 --> 00:28:26,561 Speaker 5: you know, it just shows that we're all just fucking 536 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,921 Speaker 5: echo and were and like and who knows, maybe there's 537 00:28:29,921 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 5: a lesson in other people to because it's bullying, fucking bullies. 538 00:28:34,521 --> 00:28:37,680 Speaker 5: Bullies the most putads like, it's been a fucking bully, 539 00:28:38,201 --> 00:28:41,321 Speaker 5: that's all that. When you call someone a bully, it's 540 00:28:41,361 --> 00:28:43,961 Speaker 5: hard to Then they go up. Then they like because 541 00:28:44,001 --> 00:28:46,841 Speaker 5: bully is a real harsh word, really, isn't it When 542 00:28:46,881 --> 00:28:49,601 Speaker 5: you think if you're a bully man, you're you're picking 543 00:28:49,641 --> 00:28:50,881 Speaker 5: on the vulnerable people. 544 00:28:50,921 --> 00:28:53,281 Speaker 4: You're like, yeah, you're weak, You're you're you're you're you're 545 00:28:53,281 --> 00:28:56,361 Speaker 4: actually weak because you're a bully. You're standing over, you're 546 00:28:56,401 --> 00:28:58,601 Speaker 4: you're belittling, you're taking advantage of the week. 547 00:28:59,081 --> 00:28:59,401 Speaker 3: You know what. 548 00:28:59,441 --> 00:29:02,041 Speaker 5: I love Brandmon you said then about the hustle, Like 549 00:29:02,721 --> 00:29:06,481 Speaker 5: that's like, yeah, you know what I've do got this, 550 00:29:06,721 --> 00:29:09,881 Speaker 5: you know, full time dad to the only because her 551 00:29:09,921 --> 00:29:12,161 Speaker 5: mom's away in rehabit the moment, so me and her 552 00:29:12,241 --> 00:29:14,841 Speaker 5: mom just to give a bit of curity to people. 553 00:29:15,561 --> 00:29:17,681 Speaker 5: I haven't been for a month for a long long time, 554 00:29:17,921 --> 00:29:21,361 Speaker 5: but I we co parent, you know, and thank you God. 555 00:29:21,361 --> 00:29:23,521 Speaker 5: Her mum got caught on the MetaDONE for some time 556 00:29:23,601 --> 00:29:26,201 Speaker 5: and she's gone away to her rehabit and we've been 557 00:29:26,281 --> 00:29:29,321 Speaker 5: documenting the journey too, which has been really cool, showing 558 00:29:29,361 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 5: people out there with the right support that you know, 559 00:29:32,841 --> 00:29:36,001 Speaker 5: families can you know, come away from this. But what 560 00:29:36,081 --> 00:29:38,681 Speaker 5: that means now is I do have the kid here 561 00:29:38,761 --> 00:29:42,601 Speaker 5: full time. I am running three businesses as well as 562 00:29:42,641 --> 00:29:47,961 Speaker 5: you mentioned, and it is a constant hustle and I 563 00:29:48,041 --> 00:29:51,121 Speaker 5: love it, bro like I wouldn't. That's why you do 564 00:29:51,281 --> 00:29:54,161 Speaker 5: go that extra mile, like you said before, because we 565 00:29:54,281 --> 00:29:56,561 Speaker 5: enjoy it. I enjoy it. I enjoyed the hustle so 566 00:29:57,161 --> 00:30:01,001 Speaker 5: and look, I certainly haven't made it yet. I'm making it, 567 00:30:01,121 --> 00:30:02,961 Speaker 5: you know. It's one day at a time. I feel 568 00:30:02,961 --> 00:30:07,321 Speaker 5: like I will not stop until until I woke so 569 00:30:07,401 --> 00:30:09,921 Speaker 5: I could stop, you know, but I do enjoy it, mate. 570 00:30:09,921 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 5: I've got a multitude of things after this. I'm in 571 00:30:14,801 --> 00:30:17,721 Speaker 5: twenty three minutes. I run an online group. I call 572 00:30:17,761 --> 00:30:22,561 Speaker 5: it our Law School Development Workshop. So through the NDIS, 573 00:30:22,801 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 5: we help bring individuals together in an online space to 574 00:30:27,041 --> 00:30:30,081 Speaker 5: learn tools, tips and tricks to I've got a whole 575 00:30:30,121 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 5: bunch of different topics like affirmations, connections, solution, budgeting, vision, 576 00:30:35,521 --> 00:30:37,681 Speaker 5: thirty topics up there on the board that I'm going 577 00:30:37,721 --> 00:30:42,601 Speaker 5: to age lesson. We teach one of those lessons and they're. 578 00:30:42,401 --> 00:30:43,761 Speaker 4: I do love that. 579 00:30:44,321 --> 00:30:47,641 Speaker 5: Love that well, that's how our lives NDIS Low School 580 00:30:47,681 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 5: Development Workshop. So weekdays at eleven am, Sydney time. I 581 00:30:52,321 --> 00:30:55,041 Speaker 5: run those groups. So that's one of my little housholds 582 00:30:55,041 --> 00:30:58,281 Speaker 5: I've got. And then I've got my app. So if 583 00:30:58,321 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 5: anyone doesn't know, I'm the founder of a very innovative, 584 00:31:01,601 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 5: cool video journaling app that allows you to record and 585 00:31:05,601 --> 00:31:10,881 Speaker 5: document your hopes, your dreams, your fears, and your future aspiration. So, 586 00:31:11,001 --> 00:31:14,201 Speaker 5: for example, you're struggling to pull out of our app 587 00:31:14,521 --> 00:31:16,881 Speaker 5: and ask you some on screen prompt questions which to 588 00:31:17,001 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 5: help guide you on a journey, says Danny, how are 589 00:31:19,441 --> 00:31:22,681 Speaker 5: you doing today? Well, actually I'm struggling. You know, when 590 00:31:22,961 --> 00:31:26,641 Speaker 5: we verbalize our issues out loud, we break down the barriers, 591 00:31:26,681 --> 00:31:29,481 Speaker 5: We improve the chances and likelihood of seeking the help 592 00:31:29,521 --> 00:31:33,161 Speaker 5: that we need when we're ready. So Encapsulator is my 593 00:31:33,241 --> 00:31:36,881 Speaker 5: biggest hustle. Brendan is I read that little note last time. 594 00:31:36,921 --> 00:31:39,041 Speaker 5: I'm going to post it. It was KFC. It's the 595 00:31:39,121 --> 00:31:42,841 Speaker 5: Colonel Santas right, it's got him, It's got Colonel Sanders 596 00:31:42,921 --> 00:31:48,281 Speaker 5: and says he pitched KFC one thousand and nine times 597 00:31:48,321 --> 00:31:51,801 Speaker 5: before success. You know, and I get quite emotional say 598 00:31:51,841 --> 00:31:54,441 Speaker 5: that because I'm not going to fucking give up man 599 00:31:54,521 --> 00:31:57,841 Speaker 5: like Encapsulator is going to be the top five mental health, 600 00:31:58,081 --> 00:32:00,361 Speaker 5: mental health and wellness apps in the world. I believe 601 00:32:00,401 --> 00:32:03,761 Speaker 5: I just haven't found the right connection yet, mate. 602 00:32:04,841 --> 00:32:07,361 Speaker 4: And you know what, this is what life's about. And Danny, 603 00:32:07,441 --> 00:32:10,041 Speaker 4: this is why I wanted you on the cling because 604 00:32:10,721 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 4: your story is really moving and your action. You know, 605 00:32:14,481 --> 00:32:16,681 Speaker 4: it's not a verbal it's not a word. You don't 606 00:32:16,721 --> 00:32:19,321 Speaker 4: just get out there talking shit just to make an 607 00:32:19,361 --> 00:32:22,521 Speaker 4: earn and it's not about a gimmick. You fucking live 608 00:32:22,561 --> 00:32:24,361 Speaker 4: and breathe that one. You're going through it with your 609 00:32:24,441 --> 00:32:27,641 Speaker 4: daughter's mum. So once' Now that you're now the supporter 610 00:32:27,761 --> 00:32:31,161 Speaker 4: of somebody who's trying to better themselves through I will 611 00:32:31,201 --> 00:32:35,241 Speaker 4: say addiction methodons, addictives. God bless her and I wish 612 00:32:35,281 --> 00:32:38,681 Speaker 4: her all the very best. And you are now that 613 00:32:38,801 --> 00:32:42,841 Speaker 4: person that you needed. How awesome is that? But put 614 00:32:42,841 --> 00:32:49,401 Speaker 4: that aside. What you're giving is over and beyond expectations 615 00:32:49,481 --> 00:32:54,801 Speaker 4: because you're so passionate. You're so motivated and driven through 616 00:32:54,841 --> 00:32:58,641 Speaker 4: your own lived experience, which is something I love. I'm powerful. 617 00:32:58,761 --> 00:33:04,361 Speaker 4: It's look. I'm about to head to Townsville as a 618 00:33:04,401 --> 00:33:08,121 Speaker 4: guest in and organization's mentoring program in the second week 619 00:33:08,121 --> 00:33:11,321 Speaker 4: of March, and mate, I cannot wait. I'm going to 620 00:33:11,321 --> 00:33:14,161 Speaker 4: be going into the community working with all the troubled 621 00:33:14,161 --> 00:33:16,721 Speaker 4: youth up there, and I'm coming into a space where 622 00:33:16,761 --> 00:33:21,001 Speaker 4: they're trying to create prevention around the youth crime and 623 00:33:21,041 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 4: addiction up in Townsville, and they reached out to me. 624 00:33:24,401 --> 00:33:27,001 Speaker 4: It's been back and forth since before Christmas. It's now 625 00:33:27,041 --> 00:33:29,801 Speaker 4: locked in an official I'm going up there for four 626 00:33:29,881 --> 00:33:32,641 Speaker 4: days ago, right into the heart of it, and I 627 00:33:32,641 --> 00:33:35,761 Speaker 4: couldn't I could not be any proud of it, of 628 00:33:35,841 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 4: where I've come from and have somebody reach out to 629 00:33:39,041 --> 00:33:44,001 Speaker 4: me and ask me and validate my person because that, 630 00:33:44,161 --> 00:33:47,601 Speaker 4: to me shows whatever I'm doing here, like you just said, 631 00:33:48,081 --> 00:33:51,641 Speaker 4: it's having an impact. It's changing lives, it's making a difference, 632 00:33:51,761 --> 00:33:54,441 Speaker 4: and I'm fucking proud of that. You know, I've got 633 00:33:54,441 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 4: to juggle a few things to make it happen, but 634 00:33:56,841 --> 00:33:59,801 Speaker 4: we will. I'll do it and it'll be awesome. You know. 635 00:34:00,481 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 4: It's something that I really want people to start to 636 00:34:04,481 --> 00:34:06,201 Speaker 4: understand that you can. 637 00:34:06,841 --> 00:34:09,761 Speaker 5: Oh, by the way, that's congratulations on that too. Isn't 638 00:34:09,761 --> 00:34:13,481 Speaker 5: it amazing the opportunities that come through sharing our stories. 639 00:34:13,481 --> 00:34:15,841 Speaker 5: That's what happened isn't it like people have been hearing 640 00:34:15,961 --> 00:34:19,201 Speaker 5: on the clink. They've very Brent Jinton. They're going to 641 00:34:19,281 --> 00:34:21,801 Speaker 5: fucking they want to let's get him up here to 642 00:34:21,881 --> 00:34:28,401 Speaker 5: help our young people. It's amazing. The opportunities are absolutely 643 00:34:28,521 --> 00:34:31,441 Speaker 5: limitless from doing what we do, So anyone who's thinking 644 00:34:31,481 --> 00:34:35,361 Speaker 5: about sharing their stories, I would encourage you to do 645 00:34:35,441 --> 00:34:38,881 Speaker 5: so because people need to hear it and those opportunities 646 00:34:38,921 --> 00:34:40,881 Speaker 5: are amazing. But what I was just going to say, 647 00:34:40,921 --> 00:34:44,201 Speaker 5: I say to everyone often is dream big. You know 648 00:34:44,321 --> 00:34:47,481 Speaker 5: you can do anything, and don't let the fear stop you. 649 00:34:47,601 --> 00:34:51,281 Speaker 5: Because for so long, heroine and it was really what 650 00:34:51,401 --> 00:34:53,441 Speaker 5: I was covering up with this fearm, and I was scared. 651 00:34:53,481 --> 00:34:56,361 Speaker 5: I was just this scared little boy who acted fucking tough, 652 00:34:56,601 --> 00:34:59,321 Speaker 5: but really, underneath it all, I just didn't know how 653 00:34:59,361 --> 00:35:02,481 Speaker 5: to live. Today, I've learned to live a life beyond 654 00:35:02,481 --> 00:35:05,641 Speaker 5: my older streams, and I would encourage everyone to be brave, 655 00:35:05,761 --> 00:35:09,201 Speaker 5: have some courage, dream big, gag because you can do anything, 656 00:35:09,761 --> 00:35:11,801 Speaker 5: which just reminds me of what you just said, Broan. 657 00:35:12,161 --> 00:35:13,201 Speaker 5: Congrats on that man. 658 00:35:14,281 --> 00:35:16,081 Speaker 4: Yeah, look, as I said, you know, I'm very honored 659 00:35:16,081 --> 00:35:19,401 Speaker 4: and I've got a message from mel Big shout out, mel. 660 00:35:19,441 --> 00:35:21,361 Speaker 4: I know you're listening to this at some stage, but 661 00:35:22,041 --> 00:35:24,201 Speaker 4: she was saying, Brent, you know, like the kids have 662 00:35:25,121 --> 00:35:28,881 Speaker 4: just basically spammed your podcast. They're just you know, listening 663 00:35:28,921 --> 00:35:30,841 Speaker 4: to it. I'm going to all the truth, So I've 664 00:35:30,841 --> 00:35:32,961 Speaker 4: got to prepare myself for I'm sure a lot of 665 00:35:33,041 --> 00:35:36,241 Speaker 4: questions about different guests and over two hundred guests, and 666 00:35:36,801 --> 00:35:39,841 Speaker 4: as I say, five million downloads is literally a stone 667 00:35:39,881 --> 00:35:42,601 Speaker 4: throw away. So there's a bit bit behind the scenes 668 00:35:42,641 --> 00:35:46,361 Speaker 4: that I've got to go back and revise, and I'm 669 00:35:46,401 --> 00:35:48,681 Speaker 4: going to do a couple of podcasts up there because 670 00:35:48,721 --> 00:35:51,161 Speaker 4: I want to bring I want to bring what they're 671 00:35:51,161 --> 00:35:53,201 Speaker 4: doing to life, you know, I want I want the 672 00:35:53,201 --> 00:35:55,241 Speaker 4: world to know, and I feel that if I can 673 00:35:55,321 --> 00:35:58,761 Speaker 4: contribute back to the same I was one of those 674 00:35:58,801 --> 00:36:03,721 Speaker 4: young persons, you know, broken the system, in the system, 675 00:36:03,761 --> 00:36:06,161 Speaker 4: deep in the system, and it took me the best 676 00:36:06,201 --> 00:36:09,121 Speaker 4: part of you know, thirty odd years to pull my 677 00:36:09,161 --> 00:36:12,761 Speaker 4: head out of that. At forty nine, I'm very proud 678 00:36:12,761 --> 00:36:16,201 Speaker 4: of where I'm at, and life is not easy, and 679 00:36:16,241 --> 00:36:19,121 Speaker 4: this is something that we've just got to continue to 680 00:36:19,281 --> 00:36:22,521 Speaker 4: make sure that people understand it is a battle and 681 00:36:22,561 --> 00:36:27,401 Speaker 4: you are going to struggle. It's finding those those tools 682 00:36:27,441 --> 00:36:30,361 Speaker 4: through people like yourself, myself, and all the wonderful guests 683 00:36:30,401 --> 00:36:32,961 Speaker 4: that have been on How do we then embrace this 684 00:36:33,081 --> 00:36:35,441 Speaker 4: moment of we don't see the end of the fucking 685 00:36:35,601 --> 00:36:37,841 Speaker 4: tunnel and it's dark and I want to tap out, 686 00:36:37,881 --> 00:36:41,041 Speaker 4: you know, like I don't care. I'm so far in addiction. 687 00:36:41,521 --> 00:36:45,281 Speaker 4: Is a fuck about me? I look like shit now, 688 00:36:45,841 --> 00:36:48,681 Speaker 4: Like I've got no nutritional value within myself. I've got 689 00:36:48,761 --> 00:36:55,001 Speaker 4: no self reps of respect. I guess is the word Danny? 690 00:36:55,041 --> 00:36:58,601 Speaker 4: What's that advice would you give to that person? Because 691 00:36:58,801 --> 00:37:01,601 Speaker 4: I mean, you posted something the other day and it 692 00:37:01,761 --> 00:37:05,801 Speaker 4: was quite interesting because it showed the two types of Danny, 693 00:37:05,921 --> 00:37:09,441 Speaker 4: the Danny in addiction and the Danny today, you know, 694 00:37:09,521 --> 00:37:13,520 Speaker 4: the shoeless, the homeless looking guy, to the guy that's 695 00:37:13,561 --> 00:37:16,201 Speaker 4: just full of life energy and looks amazing, you know, 696 00:37:16,441 --> 00:37:20,441 Speaker 4: healthy and bouncing off the walls. You know, how do 697 00:37:20,481 --> 00:37:26,641 Speaker 4: you continue to try and network and making that a 698 00:37:26,721 --> 00:37:28,641 Speaker 4: reality for people? I mean, I get it, people have 699 00:37:28,761 --> 00:37:30,401 Speaker 4: got to want the want it themselves. 700 00:37:30,481 --> 00:37:35,001 Speaker 5: But okay, well, Brent, great bro. I just want to say, 701 00:37:35,041 --> 00:37:38,121 Speaker 5: like I'm actually quite the introverted person. I just want 702 00:37:38,161 --> 00:37:40,241 Speaker 5: to share this because probably a lot of people out 703 00:37:40,241 --> 00:37:42,481 Speaker 5: there are like that as well, and they think that 704 00:37:42,561 --> 00:37:45,321 Speaker 5: you can't do this now. Even so it goes back 705 00:37:45,321 --> 00:37:47,321 Speaker 5: to this dream big like I know what I want. 706 00:37:47,401 --> 00:37:49,601 Speaker 5: I want to live a good life. I want to 707 00:37:49,641 --> 00:37:52,801 Speaker 5: give my family a good life too. So sometimes that 708 00:37:52,881 --> 00:37:55,001 Speaker 5: means I need to take little risks, you know. It 709 00:37:55,041 --> 00:37:57,161 Speaker 5: means I need to reach out. I need to say hey, 710 00:37:57,521 --> 00:37:59,361 Speaker 5: how you doing, put my hand out and say thank 711 00:37:59,401 --> 00:38:02,241 Speaker 5: you very much, let people know the positive impact that 712 00:38:02,241 --> 00:38:05,281 Speaker 5: they've had in my life. Now, by doing that, it 713 00:38:05,361 --> 00:38:10,121 Speaker 5: creates this energy like I always try to be the 714 00:38:10,201 --> 00:38:12,881 Speaker 5: better person in whatever situation I try to be. I'm 715 00:38:12,921 --> 00:38:14,961 Speaker 5: saying I get it right all the time. And what 716 00:38:15,001 --> 00:38:18,361 Speaker 5: that means is if somebody's looking grumpy or shitty or 717 00:38:18,401 --> 00:38:21,041 Speaker 5: pissed off, I just try and smile at them and 718 00:38:21,121 --> 00:38:24,041 Speaker 5: say hello, Hey, you going now? Brent. I know seems 719 00:38:24,121 --> 00:38:26,081 Speaker 5: far fast from what you're saying, but what that does 720 00:38:26,161 --> 00:38:30,441 Speaker 5: is it creates small talk, and small talk sometimes leads 721 00:38:30,801 --> 00:38:33,961 Speaker 5: to biggest stuff to you know. And the reason I 722 00:38:33,961 --> 00:38:37,281 Speaker 5: say I'm an introvert is I am I don't like 723 00:38:37,881 --> 00:38:41,201 Speaker 5: It's like I don't like people because that fears still 724 00:38:41,321 --> 00:38:45,241 Speaker 5: underneath me a lot, but my life and my daughter's life, 725 00:38:45,361 --> 00:38:47,921 Speaker 5: my family's life is more important. So I go outside 726 00:38:47,961 --> 00:38:52,081 Speaker 5: of my comfort zone. I go outside of my comfort zone. 727 00:38:52,321 --> 00:38:55,361 Speaker 5: And that's where they say growth happens out of the 728 00:38:55,481 --> 00:38:58,001 Speaker 5: comfort zone. And I do that every single day. Man. 729 00:38:58,401 --> 00:39:02,081 Speaker 5: So I would just again say to people, especially if 730 00:39:02,081 --> 00:39:06,561 Speaker 5: you're feeling down, sad like and you don't want to 731 00:39:06,601 --> 00:39:09,281 Speaker 5: be here anymore, I think they're probably the most important 732 00:39:09,521 --> 00:39:13,201 Speaker 5: person in the room. I often say, Brend my social media, 733 00:39:14,321 --> 00:39:16,041 Speaker 5: I do a lot of live streams as well, and 734 00:39:16,081 --> 00:39:18,601 Speaker 5: I often say that the most important person in the 735 00:39:18,681 --> 00:39:21,281 Speaker 5: room is that person that you can see in the 736 00:39:21,361 --> 00:39:24,161 Speaker 5: numbers in the viewers, but they're not saying anything. They're 737 00:39:24,161 --> 00:39:26,881 Speaker 5: not commenting. You know why they're not saying because they're 738 00:39:27,161 --> 00:39:30,601 Speaker 5: ashamed to comment and let other people see that they're 739 00:39:30,641 --> 00:39:33,161 Speaker 5: in there, or they're coming from some kind of domestic 740 00:39:33,241 --> 00:39:36,401 Speaker 5: violunce that they can't be seen to be engaging with 741 00:39:36,441 --> 00:39:38,961 Speaker 5: that stuff. Now, they are the most important people in 742 00:39:39,001 --> 00:39:41,921 Speaker 5: the room. And I've also seen that those people over 743 00:39:42,001 --> 00:39:45,361 Speaker 5: time will then reach out and say, Danny, You've been 744 00:39:45,361 --> 00:39:47,721 Speaker 5: watching you for years, you know you get this all 745 00:39:47,761 --> 00:39:49,960 Speaker 5: the time. I've been watching you for years. You've had 746 00:39:49,961 --> 00:39:52,721 Speaker 5: this much of an impact because if we can reach 747 00:39:52,761 --> 00:39:55,121 Speaker 5: those people, the most important people in the room, the 748 00:39:55,161 --> 00:39:58,201 Speaker 5: ones who aren't commenting and just watching in silence. I 749 00:39:58,281 --> 00:40:01,161 Speaker 5: just want to let you know that, yeah, that you 750 00:40:01,241 --> 00:40:03,081 Speaker 5: can do this, and all you need to do is 751 00:40:03,161 --> 00:40:06,441 Speaker 5: be brave, have some courage, each out. I answer every 752 00:40:06,481 --> 00:40:09,121 Speaker 5: single DM that I get. I might not answer it 753 00:40:09,121 --> 00:40:11,601 Speaker 5: straight away, but reach out because you will get an 754 00:40:11,601 --> 00:40:14,721 Speaker 5: audio response from me. And sometimes that's all that you 755 00:40:14,841 --> 00:40:18,321 Speaker 5: need is just to be validated and heard. Let somebody 756 00:40:18,361 --> 00:40:23,521 Speaker 5: know that somebody cares. So yeah, bro, I think that's 757 00:40:23,521 --> 00:40:24,481 Speaker 5: what i'd say to that. 758 00:40:25,601 --> 00:40:27,361 Speaker 4: I really got to give you credit to. You know, 759 00:40:27,441 --> 00:40:30,321 Speaker 4: like when I first come across your pay and I 760 00:40:30,361 --> 00:40:33,161 Speaker 4: don't do TikTok because for me personally, I find it 761 00:40:33,281 --> 00:40:36,641 Speaker 4: way too toxic and I end up just I can't 762 00:40:36,681 --> 00:40:41,001 Speaker 4: tolerate the conversations and the actions of people. And I know, look, 763 00:40:41,441 --> 00:40:43,801 Speaker 4: it's not my burden to carry, but when it involves me, 764 00:40:44,161 --> 00:40:48,281 Speaker 4: it's not cool. But I have definitely skimmed across it 765 00:40:48,321 --> 00:40:51,121 Speaker 4: in the earliest stages to make that call. And you, 766 00:40:51,281 --> 00:40:55,241 Speaker 4: my friend, oh wow, talk about fucking and don't take 767 00:40:55,281 --> 00:40:57,281 Speaker 4: this the wrong way. But if you're fucking a clown 768 00:40:57,321 --> 00:40:59,721 Speaker 4: in a circus. Mate, you did the best clown in 769 00:40:59,721 --> 00:41:02,881 Speaker 4: the world because you're fucking funny. And the way that 770 00:41:02,961 --> 00:41:07,521 Speaker 4: you put the way that you put the facts, and 771 00:41:07,601 --> 00:41:10,401 Speaker 4: sometimes it's very painful what you talk about because it's 772 00:41:10,401 --> 00:41:13,161 Speaker 4: a reality check, but you're able to put it in 773 00:41:13,201 --> 00:41:15,121 Speaker 4: context that actually gives people a little bit of a 774 00:41:15,121 --> 00:41:17,401 Speaker 4: smack in the face, but at the same time a 775 00:41:17,441 --> 00:41:19,281 Speaker 4: little bit of humor on the back. But now, for 776 00:41:19,321 --> 00:41:24,161 Speaker 4: an introverted man, you do pretty good, brother, Brett. 777 00:41:24,241 --> 00:41:28,121 Speaker 5: I truly am an introvert. One thing I've learned about 778 00:41:28,161 --> 00:41:30,480 Speaker 5: me is that person you see on social media it's 779 00:41:30,561 --> 00:41:33,641 Speaker 5: me one hundred percent, but it's like my ultra ego 780 00:41:33,761 --> 00:41:36,601 Speaker 5: or something. It's not the guy that you will see 781 00:41:36,801 --> 00:41:40,041 Speaker 5: talking the street. You never hear me talking recovery or 782 00:41:40,401 --> 00:41:42,521 Speaker 5: this or that to someone I just meet, you know. 783 00:41:42,641 --> 00:41:46,440 Speaker 5: But but do you know what, just just today, we've 784 00:41:46,521 --> 00:41:50,081 Speaker 5: hit one reel with eleven million views and it's exactly 785 00:41:50,161 --> 00:41:54,041 Speaker 5: that just me. I mean, yeah, there's a post going 786 00:41:54,121 --> 00:41:57,481 Speaker 5: off on my Facebook at the moment with eleven million views. Like, 787 00:41:57,801 --> 00:42:02,081 Speaker 5: just imagine the impact that's evened out there. There's eleven 788 00:42:02,081 --> 00:42:09,721 Speaker 5: million views, a hundred interactions. But it's just me with 789 00:42:09,881 --> 00:42:12,721 Speaker 5: some sound at the top, me in addiction, and then 790 00:42:12,801 --> 00:42:15,641 Speaker 5: me doing this bit of a dance, which is not 791 00:42:15,761 --> 00:42:18,681 Speaker 5: fucking me. Bro You will not find me dancing the street. 792 00:42:18,681 --> 00:42:21,681 Speaker 5: But the thing is, people go, look is that really him? 793 00:42:21,801 --> 00:42:23,721 Speaker 5: And now look at it now, like if I. 794 00:42:23,681 --> 00:42:27,481 Speaker 4: Can set it in the street, Danny's in the street. 795 00:42:29,321 --> 00:42:33,440 Speaker 5: My stories like what a beautiful Just have a go, man, 796 00:42:33,881 --> 00:42:35,401 Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying. That's the thing. 797 00:42:35,441 --> 00:42:38,481 Speaker 4: But you've been able to connect through being that way 798 00:42:38,841 --> 00:42:42,921 Speaker 4: and breaking breaking breaking the cycle and engaging in conversation. 799 00:42:43,081 --> 00:42:45,721 Speaker 4: Now that to me right there is a massive win 800 00:42:45,841 --> 00:42:49,121 Speaker 4: because you're able to connect with people that you normally 801 00:42:49,121 --> 00:42:53,401 Speaker 4: wouldn't through you just being you. And I think that 802 00:42:53,401 --> 00:42:56,641 Speaker 4: that is really powerful, Broan, especially in what you're doing 803 00:42:56,681 --> 00:42:58,521 Speaker 4: in the space that you're in and the difference that 804 00:42:58,561 --> 00:43:01,561 Speaker 4: you're making. And look, I know that you know you're 805 00:43:01,961 --> 00:43:04,241 Speaker 4: you're back to back after this, so I'm going to 806 00:43:04,281 --> 00:43:06,441 Speaker 4: push push a and there is so much more to 807 00:43:06,481 --> 00:43:10,401 Speaker 4: you and your story. So forgive us if we've sort 808 00:43:10,401 --> 00:43:13,321 Speaker 4: of overshot anything here, because look, we can always have 809 00:43:13,401 --> 00:43:15,481 Speaker 4: Danny back on for a part to any hour of 810 00:43:15,521 --> 00:43:18,121 Speaker 4: any day. That's not a problem. But I want to 811 00:43:18,161 --> 00:43:20,441 Speaker 4: just focus a little bit more on, you know, the 812 00:43:20,481 --> 00:43:23,921 Speaker 4: successes that you're having today exactly and specific and how 813 00:43:24,001 --> 00:43:27,561 Speaker 4: people can reach out to you, and just I want 814 00:43:27,601 --> 00:43:32,161 Speaker 4: you to give us those two tools based around the 815 00:43:32,281 --> 00:43:38,241 Speaker 4: naysay and the hope, because I feel that you live 816 00:43:38,281 --> 00:43:43,601 Speaker 4: with hope and you've had a million naysayers write you off. 817 00:43:43,721 --> 00:43:46,401 Speaker 4: So how has Danny Shannon gotten to where he is? 818 00:43:47,321 --> 00:43:49,681 Speaker 4: And what advice would you give to others out there 819 00:43:49,801 --> 00:43:50,481 Speaker 4: in this space? 820 00:43:51,081 --> 00:43:55,921 Speaker 5: Yeah? Again, I would just say to be brave, have courage, 821 00:43:55,961 --> 00:44:00,401 Speaker 5: you know, like I often have to remind myself, like 822 00:44:01,801 --> 00:44:03,921 Speaker 5: I really do with my heart, must say so somebody 823 00:44:04,001 --> 00:44:07,201 Speaker 5: hurt me. I'm not going to necessarily get on Facebook 824 00:44:07,241 --> 00:44:09,361 Speaker 5: and start telling people about but I'll tell you someone 825 00:44:09,841 --> 00:44:12,281 Speaker 5: because I don't like the bottom up thing. You know, 826 00:44:12,321 --> 00:44:16,281 Speaker 5: they say your secrets, keep your secret feelings, Like I 827 00:44:16,401 --> 00:44:19,481 Speaker 5: just try and express myself. I've become this quite I 828 00:44:19,441 --> 00:44:22,521 Speaker 5: don't day a man who's not afraid to tell the 829 00:44:22,601 --> 00:44:26,721 Speaker 5: truth and express my feelings. Be brave, have courage, reach 830 00:44:26,761 --> 00:44:32,481 Speaker 5: out to somebody and yeah and just yeah, man, like 831 00:44:32,881 --> 00:44:36,681 Speaker 5: we can do anything, bro, you know, I'd love just 832 00:44:36,921 --> 00:44:39,401 Speaker 5: for if anyone wants to know if they want to 833 00:44:39,481 --> 00:44:42,601 Speaker 5: reach out. There's two things that I love to share 834 00:44:42,641 --> 00:44:47,241 Speaker 5: with you, and I've already quickly. We're Encapsulated, which is 835 00:44:47,281 --> 00:44:51,801 Speaker 5: my app. Okay, it's an app with thirty plus programs, 836 00:44:51,961 --> 00:44:55,681 Speaker 5: So you can look up Encapsulator on the App Store 837 00:44:55,761 --> 00:44:59,801 Speaker 5: or on Android on Google Play, and there's some whole 838 00:44:59,801 --> 00:45:02,801 Speaker 5: bunch of freak programs and you can start to explore 839 00:45:02,841 --> 00:45:07,681 Speaker 5: your thoughts and feelings using our video technology to break 840 00:45:07,721 --> 00:45:11,321 Speaker 5: down the barriers, express yourself without any fear of judgment 841 00:45:11,601 --> 00:45:15,001 Speaker 5: in a private, confidential space. So that's number one. That's 842 00:45:15,041 --> 00:45:17,841 Speaker 5: my big that's my big dream. It's up here, it's 843 00:45:17,881 --> 00:45:20,601 Speaker 5: up on my wall, it's all over my house. It's 844 00:45:20,641 --> 00:45:25,841 Speaker 5: my manifestation for twenty twenty seven that you can see here. 845 00:45:26,081 --> 00:45:29,681 Speaker 5: And secondly, if anyone, I run two types of groups, 846 00:45:29,721 --> 00:45:33,321 Speaker 5: if anyone's on NDIS and you'd like to be supported 847 00:45:33,441 --> 00:45:38,841 Speaker 5: around our life skill development workshops. Basically, just to break 848 00:45:38,881 --> 00:45:41,881 Speaker 5: it down simply, all we do is bring people together 849 00:45:41,921 --> 00:45:45,281 Speaker 5: from all over Australia in an online space. There's nothing 850 00:45:45,361 --> 00:45:48,321 Speaker 5: too confronting. I'm not here to dig deep into your 851 00:45:48,361 --> 00:45:51,161 Speaker 5: trauma at all. That's not what I do. All I 852 00:45:51,281 --> 00:45:53,681 Speaker 5: do is I help you feel validated, I help you 853 00:45:53,721 --> 00:45:56,081 Speaker 5: feel heard, and I give you one tool to walk 854 00:45:56,081 --> 00:45:58,841 Speaker 5: away and live your best life for the day. And 855 00:45:58,961 --> 00:46:02,041 Speaker 5: to anyone who's not on NDIS. On a Wednesday night, 856 00:46:02,481 --> 00:46:06,201 Speaker 5: seven point thirty pm, I run my end Hour of Power. 857 00:46:06,201 --> 00:46:09,961 Speaker 5: It's another online group I'm where I teach very similar stuff. 858 00:46:10,081 --> 00:46:13,321 Speaker 5: It's cheap as chips. Reach out to me under Danny Shannon. 859 00:46:13,361 --> 00:46:18,281 Speaker 5: You'll find me on Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, LinkedIn any other 860 00:46:18,321 --> 00:46:22,161 Speaker 5: platform that's out there. I've been verified on all platforms, 861 00:46:22,161 --> 00:46:23,761 Speaker 5: which is a real incredible. 862 00:46:23,801 --> 00:46:25,601 Speaker 4: I say, you know you don't pay for your blue teeth. 863 00:46:25,681 --> 00:46:30,361 Speaker 5: No, I don't pay for the bluetick. That's right, Brian deal, Yeah, 864 00:46:30,481 --> 00:46:33,761 Speaker 5: there's true. People don't even know that. Actually, once upon 865 00:46:33,881 --> 00:46:36,201 Speaker 5: a time he used to be able to get verified 866 00:46:36,201 --> 00:46:40,201 Speaker 5: by these platforms just for your you know, the writary apparently. 867 00:46:40,241 --> 00:46:42,601 Speaker 5: So yeah, I never paid for a blue tick made up. 868 00:46:42,641 --> 00:46:44,801 Speaker 4: I've been rejected every time I try to get it. 869 00:46:44,841 --> 00:46:46,201 Speaker 4: In the end, I just go fuck it. I can't 870 00:46:46,241 --> 00:46:47,601 Speaker 4: be bothered. I am who I am, and if you 871 00:46:47,601 --> 00:46:49,841 Speaker 4: don't believe me, then if you want to be if 872 00:46:49,881 --> 00:46:51,521 Speaker 4: you want to beat me, go for it, because I 873 00:46:51,521 --> 00:46:53,081 Speaker 4: can tell you there's a lot that you don't want 874 00:46:53,121 --> 00:46:53,281 Speaker 4: to be. 875 00:46:53,641 --> 00:46:57,321 Speaker 5: Yeah, true. If you just reach out to me on 876 00:46:57,441 --> 00:47:00,641 Speaker 5: Danny Shannon with the bluetick, make sure you get them 877 00:47:00,681 --> 00:47:02,881 Speaker 5: und the bluetick because there is a couple of impostors 878 00:47:02,921 --> 00:47:05,801 Speaker 5: out there. He might not be as nice as me. 879 00:47:06,601 --> 00:47:09,201 Speaker 5: Just reach out, send me a DM the best platform 880 00:47:09,241 --> 00:47:12,521 Speaker 5: to get me on Instagram or Messenger, Facebook Messenger and 881 00:47:12,561 --> 00:47:16,761 Speaker 5: I respond to every message. Encapsulators on that app store 882 00:47:16,881 --> 00:47:20,361 Speaker 5: on Google Play download that have a crack reach out 883 00:47:20,401 --> 00:47:22,281 Speaker 5: to me and yeah, man, dream big. 884 00:47:22,321 --> 00:47:25,001 Speaker 4: You can do anything, and you know what I want 885 00:47:25,041 --> 00:47:28,161 Speaker 4: to take you and just thank you. I want to 886 00:47:28,201 --> 00:47:31,081 Speaker 4: say to you, mate, please allow us to have another 887 00:47:31,161 --> 00:47:33,440 Speaker 4: episode with you when you have a little bit more time. 888 00:47:34,121 --> 00:47:36,761 Speaker 4: You're an absolute legend for everybody out there. This is 889 00:47:36,841 --> 00:47:39,561 Speaker 4: Denny Shannon and I'm grateful to have just a small 890 00:47:39,601 --> 00:47:42,641 Speaker 4: piece of your time today. Thank you, Welcome to the 891 00:47:42,641 --> 00:47:46,961 Speaker 4: Clink and now goodbye from the Clinkleskay, thank you everybody 892 00:47:47,001 --> 00:47:50,841 Speaker 4: who was tuned in today. Shorter one very informative with 893 00:47:50,921 --> 00:47:53,201 Speaker 4: a wonderful man. He's giving you all the details there. 894 00:47:53,241 --> 00:47:55,521 Speaker 4: We'll also add that in thank you to Sideway, Surf 895 00:47:55,561 --> 00:47:58,321 Speaker 4: and Pod shape and to you, the listener that continues 896 00:47:58,361 --> 00:48:00,001 Speaker 4: to turn up each week, From me to you for 897 00:48:00,121 --> 00:48:00,601 Speaker 4: the best you. 898 00:48:00,561 --> 00:48:02,721 Speaker 1: Can do for the Rocket. 899 00:48:03,001 --> 00:48:06,241 Speaker 2: Don't try and make you uncomfortable for the record. You 900 00:48:06,241 --> 00:48:07,801 Speaker 2: ain't trying to grow downy stuff for your. 901 00:48:08,321 --> 00:48:09,321 Speaker 1: Pride for the record. 902 00:48:09,561 --> 00:48:12,641 Speaker 2: Live on me going all the way for the record. 903 00:48:12,801 --> 00:48:14,201 Speaker 1: Ain't trying to link, No, trying to wait. 904 00:48:14,441 --> 00:48:18,041 Speaker 3: Stop all that for the record, for the record. H 905 00:48:18,641 --> 00:48:23,561 Speaker 3: for the for the record, for the record. Yeah, for 906 00:48:23,681 --> 00:48:25,801 Speaker 3: the record, for the record. 907 00:48:37,041 --> 00:48:39,961 Speaker 5: Mm hmmmm hm