WEBVTT - The Late Debate | 5 September

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<v Speaker 1>Les General, Welcome to the Late Debate. Good evening and

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<v Speaker 1>welcome to the program.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Caleb Bond with Liz Storer and Joe Hildebrand. Well.

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<v Speaker 2>The police are encouraging people to dob in others for

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<v Speaker 2>shouting at cyclists. We'll show you the letter one man

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<v Speaker 2>received later in the show. You would have heard today

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<v Speaker 2>that Bill Shorten is retiring from politics to go off

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<v Speaker 2>into academia as vice chancellor of the University of Canberra. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>one of the papers reveals that to assist his middle

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<v Speaker 2>health after losing in twenty nineteen, he adopted a fat dog.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll talk about that a bit later.

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<v Speaker 2>And breaking news, Vladimir Putin has endorsed someone for the

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<v Speaker 2>president of the United States. We'll tell you who and

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<v Speaker 2>why later on, but first a Late Debate special. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not an episode of The Late Debate if we

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<v Speaker 2>don't get stuck into at least one council. So we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to start the batting with that tonight. And tonight

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<v Speaker 2>it's Randwick Council in Sydney. That's in our cross here

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<v Speaker 2>is because of course Day, like many other councils, decided

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<v Speaker 2>it would be a grand idea to debate about Israel

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<v Speaker 2>and Gaza, because you know Benjamin nettin Yahu and Hamasa

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<v Speaker 2>sitting around with baited breath waiting to find out what

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<v Speaker 2>Randwick Council thinks before they take any further action in

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<v Speaker 2>that conflict. But we find out today how much money

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<v Speaker 2>Randwick Council spent having these debates and apparently for the

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<v Speaker 2>security and catering they needed for the special meetings in

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<v Speaker 2>order to discuss geopolitics issues on the other side of

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<v Speaker 2>the world. Randwick Council spent thirteen thousand dollars. And you

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<v Speaker 2>might think, well, that's not a great deal of money.

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<v Speaker 2>Who really cares about that? But think about all the

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<v Speaker 2>other councils that did exactly the same thing. This is

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<v Speaker 2>your rates, after all, this is magnified across the entire country.

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<v Speaker 2>And we find out these numbers because of a new

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<v Speaker 2>lobby group called Better Council Group. If only we could

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<v Speaker 2>actually get better councils, the leader of which Sophie Calland

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<v Speaker 2>is now painning to get rid of the Greens in Randwich.

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<v Speaker 2>She says it suits the Green's agenda to continuously distract

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<v Speaker 2>voters when presented with the facts of their performance in

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<v Speaker 2>these roles. Let's talk about all the things that councils

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<v Speaker 2>can't have any effect on, like war in Gaza, for instance.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's not just the thirteen thousand dollars they spent

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<v Speaker 2>staging these meetings. The mayor, the Greens mayor in Randwick

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<v Speaker 2>put up a Facebook post with photographs of an anti

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<v Speaker 2>Zionist rally. Someone a member of the community then made

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<v Speaker 2>a complaint to the council under the Code of Conduct

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<v Speaker 2>and said that this was discriminatory and so's division within

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<v Speaker 2>the community. So that was then investigated. Can you imagine

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<v Speaker 2>how much it cost them to investigate a Facebook post?

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<v Speaker 2>Thirty four five hundred dollars to be precise. The complaint

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<v Speaker 2>said the posting of these images may be construed as intimidation,

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<v Speaker 2>harassment to famatory, threatening and discriminatory to our community, which

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<v Speaker 2>includes two Jewish days skuls and two synagogues. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>what better for councils to get up to debating these

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<v Speaker 2>issues that they have no effect over is and then

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<v Speaker 2>spending tens of thousands of dollars investigating complaints about Facebook posts.

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<v Speaker 3>Business as usual for counsels Like you say, this is

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<v Speaker 3>just one council, how many of them have taken upon

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<v Speaker 3>themselves to venture into geopolitics and who should be blowing up?

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<v Speaker 1>Who shouldn't be?

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<v Speaker 3>Whose side are we on instead of roads rates and

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<v Speaker 3>rubbish for crying out loud. I love the idea of

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<v Speaker 3>this Better Counsel's campaign. I hope they're absolutely cashed up.

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<v Speaker 3>I hope they've got some full time staff on board,

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<v Speaker 3>because that is a full time job. And I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know how effective they can be, because of course these

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<v Speaker 3>councils don't seem to change very drastically. Come each election,

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<v Speaker 3>you hope for drastic change, except for this year. Of course,

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<v Speaker 3>nobody's hoping for drastic change because the vast majority of

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<v Speaker 3>the Limbs didn't even get their application, so there is

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<v Speaker 3>no vote for change this time round. So you'd almost

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<v Speaker 3>wonder why Better Counsel this campaign isn't just cooling their

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<v Speaker 3>jets at this point because almost all hope is lost.

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<v Speaker 3>So many of the others couldn't even apply to run.

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<v Speaker 3>Some of them are incumbents, so they won't be.

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<v Speaker 4>They say they will.

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<v Speaker 5>I'll get all those votes that can't go to the

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<v Speaker 5>Libs now, so I think exactly perfect time you can.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just going to be more of the same from

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<v Speaker 1>these council.

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<v Speaker 5>I think, I think Randwick Council. I think it just

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<v Speaker 5>it doesn't go far enough. I just I don't understand

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<v Speaker 5>why we only know their position on one foreign policy?

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<v Speaker 5>What's their position on Yemen? What's their position on South Sudan?

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<v Speaker 5>What's their position on Brexit Amenia? What's the Armenia? Ukraine

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<v Speaker 5>joined the AU NATO? I mean, can council NATO?

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<v Speaker 3>No, So maybe they should send a letter to NATO

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<v Speaker 3>letter Ukraine.

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<v Speaker 2>Can't join at the moment, they what do they make

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<v Speaker 2>of the EU elections?

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<v Speaker 5>I imagine that would be emotional itself. I remember it's

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<v Speaker 5>always whenever the Greens get involved, unsurprisingly, like most councils

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<v Speaker 5>go about their business and they kind of and indeed

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<v Speaker 5>the local government minister is now as a former mayor

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<v Speaker 5>of a council, he's one of the more sensible ones.

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<v Speaker 5>But it's always wherever the Greens get controlled, and they

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<v Speaker 5>always get control of sporadically of the in a West council,

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<v Speaker 5>it's with Labour now, thank god at the moment, but

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<v Speaker 5>when they've.

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<v Speaker 2>Been debating the whole Israel guards Greens and they've been

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<v Speaker 2>having like vicious fights at Council meeting security called in

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<v Speaker 2>slanging matches.

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<v Speaker 5>Also, I remember when the Greens Ranichhart Council was the

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<v Speaker 5>precursor that in the West and they were doing like

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<v Speaker 5>I think they were sending money to East Team or yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>and then there was another one there was And when

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<v Speaker 5>the Greens were running in a West council more recently,

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<v Speaker 5>they were debating orcas.

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<v Speaker 4>Can you imagine about it? Worried about it? Nuclear submarines sailing.

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<v Speaker 2>You would know, being an Inner wisty as mr and

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<v Speaker 2>you know it's it's it's amazing living in the Inner

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<v Speaker 2>West as a right winger. Actually quite like it because

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<v Speaker 2>no one in the Inn West knows what I do

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<v Speaker 2>because they don't consume this kind of media. If only

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<v Speaker 2>they did, they'd have an education.

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<v Speaker 1>But because they don't, watch out, so I.

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<v Speaker 2>Can just sort of walk around with total anonymity in

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<v Speaker 2>the Inner West. But just down the street from me

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<v Speaker 2>is a little sign that says, you know, the Inner

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<v Speaker 2>West or Lighthart Nuclear Free. As though there was going

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<v Speaker 2>to be a nuclear subarge just sort of sail.

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<v Speaker 5>Up all those plans to build a giant nuclear reactor

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<v Speaker 5>in King Street, New Town.

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<v Speaker 1>Somehow, well that would be the best nuclear.

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<v Speaker 5>Also, racism is not welcome in the in the West

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<v Speaker 5>and Blara Council.

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<v Speaker 4>You'll be solved to know.

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<v Speaker 5>They have little signs there saying races. Apparently, if you

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<v Speaker 5>go to any council area, any local government area where

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<v Speaker 5>there isn't a sign saying racism isn't welcome, it's fine

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<v Speaker 5>to be just becaus racist as you want. It's totally fine.

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<v Speaker 5>I love it, unless you've got a sign saying don't

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<v Speaker 5>be racist. Also, I just assume that bank robbery is

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<v Speaker 5>legal unless there's no sign saying bank robbery not welcome here,

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<v Speaker 5>sign that it's okay.

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<v Speaker 4>That's waiting for it.

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<v Speaker 5>Really again, I want to know what is Randwick Council's

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<v Speaker 5>position on bank robbery. Why haven't they felt this right?

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<v Speaker 5>If you're going to go into all the jurisdictions which

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<v Speaker 5>councils have absolutely not in it with, let's go into

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<v Speaker 5>the crime.

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<v Speaker 3>Were right on the raygun controversy.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't give them ideas. We need to know.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, if you're in New South Wales, maybe hope is

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<v Speaker 3>on the way for misbehaving counselors. As the state government

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<v Speaker 3>has decided to weigh in, there's been so many complaints

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<v Speaker 3>behavioral complaints leveled at counselors that the state government has

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<v Speaker 3>decided we're going to do a report on this, and

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<v Speaker 3>we're going to start by reducing the code of conduct

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<v Speaker 3>down from one hundred pages to two or three pages.

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<v Speaker 1>Get this.

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<v Speaker 3>The data provided as part of this report that the

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<v Speaker 3>state government is doing found four two hundred and eighty

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<v Speaker 3>nine complaints over the three years preceding twenty twenty two

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<v Speaker 3>to twenty twenty three, but of these, fewer than twenty

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<v Speaker 3>resulted in serious repercussions for offending counselors. So the states like,

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<v Speaker 3>clearly the system's broken, we're gonna tidy it up. Check

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<v Speaker 3>out this graph, which I believe may have just been

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<v Speaker 3>up on your screen. This is how many complaints there

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<v Speaker 3>have been in just these six councils.

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<v Speaker 1>What the heck is going on?

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<v Speaker 6>In Cumberland they had eighty four complaints, spent almost one

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<v Speaker 6>hundred and fifty thousand rate pay of dollars on sorting

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<v Speaker 6>those out, and zero zero what there were found to

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<v Speaker 6>be a breach.

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<v Speaker 3>So you've gotta love government because you make a complaint

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<v Speaker 3>and they say, thank you for that. We'll investigate our

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<v Speaker 3>selves and get back to you as to whether there's

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<v Speaker 3>been a breach, but the Office of Local Government in

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<v Speaker 3>New South Wales.

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<v Speaker 1>Is onto it.

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<v Speaker 3>Here's a quote from the Local Government Minister Ron Hohenegg.

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<v Speaker 3>He says the options presented in this discussion paper put

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<v Speaker 3>the owners back on addressing and resolving issues of council

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<v Speaker 3>and misbehavior at a local level, rather than escalating complaints

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<v Speaker 3>for the state government or private investigators to fix. For

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<v Speaker 3>far too long the system has been abused. It's time

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<v Speaker 3>to restore public confidence in councils.

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<v Speaker 1>And ensure the dignity of.

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<v Speaker 3>This vital third tier of government is upheld. Mate, that

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<v Speaker 3>ship has sailed. But hey, dreams are free, so go

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<v Speaker 3>your heart.

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<v Speaker 1>At I mean, great idea, a great idea.

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<v Speaker 2>And then what they're proposing now is that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>councilors who misbehave could face fines and suspensions and all

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<v Speaker 2>this sort of thing. But from reading these numbers, it

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<v Speaker 2>sounds to me like it's not necessarily the council's council

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<v Speaker 2>laws who are being complained about that are behaving badly.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the councilors and members of the public who are

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<v Speaker 2>making the complaints. So if you can have eighty four

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<v Speaker 2>complaints in one council investigated to the tune of one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and fifty UK and not one of them was uphild.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got a bunch of vications litigans who ought to

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<v Speaker 2>be kicked, it.

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<v Speaker 4>Would appear so.

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<v Speaker 5>And interestingly Cumberland, I'm not sure exactly what if the

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<v Speaker 5>time period overlapsed, but most recently Cumberland was the subject

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<v Speaker 5>of a very deliberate campaign of complaint by people who

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<v Speaker 5>are upset about a book about same set in the

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<v Speaker 5>local library. And this caused all sorts of furora. So

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<v Speaker 5>that may explain those high numbers. It's where of course

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<v Speaker 5>that was recent.

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<v Speaker 4>Though that was really recent.

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<v Speaker 5>It might have been captured in these numbers, but certainly

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<v Speaker 5>that was that was one of the things that definitely

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<v Speaker 5>blew up recently and it was one of those things

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<v Speaker 5>that was found to.

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<v Speaker 4>Be completely fruivalous.

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<v Speaker 5>So it's quite easy for people to whip up outrage

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<v Speaker 5>about something or particular, something something or other in particular,

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<v Speaker 5>and then there's another one in Bumbrey Council that's happened,

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<v Speaker 5>in w A that's happening, and have all this stuff

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<v Speaker 5>brought to bear, often from people outside the l g

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<v Speaker 5>A and then then to be found that it's just

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<v Speaker 5>a big nothing butter and I love the idea of

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<v Speaker 5>private investigators bring it all nine hours when I saw

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<v Speaker 5>the counselor escape.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't have a lot of confidence in this proposed

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<v Speaker 3>new system though, because get this, this is this is

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<v Speaker 3>how the state government is proposing.

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<v Speaker 1>This would now go.

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<v Speaker 3>So you make a behavioral complaint against one of your counselors,

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<v Speaker 3>this is how it's decided. Three tests for alleged misbehavior.

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<v Speaker 3>We're trying to simplify here, right, So there's just three

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<v Speaker 3>tests proposed. One any unbecoming conduct, Okay, that's clear as mud.

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<v Speaker 3>Number two bringing counsel into disrepute, Okay, because that's not highly.

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<v Speaker 5>According to Caleb, every single council has already been brought

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<v Speaker 5>in executive.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's all of the three.

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<v Speaker 3>Behavior assessed as being outside the norms and expectations of

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<v Speaker 3>a sitting counselor. I'm pretty sure that's just the same

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<v Speaker 3>thing said three times over, slightly differently, but okay, And

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<v Speaker 3>under this new system, this would then be sent to

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<v Speaker 3>a committee of mayors in ex mayors to decide whether

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<v Speaker 3>you have, in fact breach one of these three. But

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<v Speaker 3>they all sound so highly subjective.

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<v Speaker 1>Something that you.

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<v Speaker 3>Say brings disrepior, I might argue is just free speech,

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<v Speaker 3>and so on and so forth and counselor.

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<v Speaker 5>And not only does it go to a career of

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<v Speaker 5>mayors and x mayors. The local government minister who came

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<v Speaker 5>up with this is himself.

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<v Speaker 2>An X may and council is just make umpteen complaints

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<v Speaker 2>about each other because they know it gets caught up

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<v Speaker 2>in the process and it takes so long, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>hanging over people's heads, and they do it in the

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<v Speaker 2>lead up to council elections, so it's still there on

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<v Speaker 2>the books when the election.

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<v Speaker 1>Comes along on and on it goes.

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<v Speaker 2>These people are so damn petty, it's not funny, and

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<v Speaker 2>they're doing it with your money and my money.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go to some.

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<v Speaker 2>More madness in Melbourne where one hospital, Monash Hospital, is

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<v Speaker 2>now telling staff that it may have to discharge people

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<v Speaker 2>early because they don't have enough money to keep them

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<v Speaker 2>in hospital.

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<v Speaker 1>What an extraordinary position to be in now.

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<v Speaker 2>This is despite the fact that one and a half

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<v Speaker 2>billion extra dollars was given by the Allen government two

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<v Speaker 2>hospitals in its last state budget. But the hospitals still

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<v Speaker 2>think they do not have enough money to do the

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<v Speaker 2>jobs they need to do. They send an email around

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<v Speaker 2>Bonish Hospital, that is to the staff this week saying,

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<v Speaker 2>in the meantime, our current budget directives remain in place.

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<v Speaker 2>We will continue to drive efficiency and reduce costs where

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<v Speaker 2>we can be this through reduced length of stay, improved

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<v Speaker 2>coding and data capture, reduced failure to attend rates, or

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<v Speaker 2>simply working smarter.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not entirely well yet doesn't matter. You've got to

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<v Speaker 1>go home. We've got to put someone else in that bed.

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<v Speaker 1>We can't afford to keep me here.

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<v Speaker 2>And there's even the suggestion in Victoria that some doctors

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<v Speaker 2>are going to have to take a pay cut so

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<v Speaker 2>that the hospitals can keep running. You know, it's the

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<v Speaker 2>most basic staff for a state government to be on

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<v Speaker 2>top of.

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<v Speaker 1>To think that you would a kick people out of.

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<v Speaker 2>Hospital early when they're probably not entirely well because you

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<v Speaker 2>can't afford to keep them in the hospital and asked doctors,

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<v Speaker 2>some of the most hard working people in the public system,

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<v Speaker 2>to take up pay cut.

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<v Speaker 1>That's insane.

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<v Speaker 3>It makes sense though, that these hospitals are sticking with

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<v Speaker 3>the budget because so the state government handed down these

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<v Speaker 3>budget cuts in May, all the hospitals freaked out and

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<v Speaker 3>advise the state government, Hey, this would literally mean drastic

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<v Speaker 3>cuts to care, Like, let's be completely frankier, we simply

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<v Speaker 3>can't do this. But they've crunched the numbers they've come

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<v Speaker 3>up with their new budgets. The state government backflipped a

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<v Speaker 3>month later and said, here's an extra one point five bill.

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<v Speaker 3>But a hospital like Monash and any other hospital in

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<v Speaker 3>Victoria doesn't know how much of that is now going

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<v Speaker 3>to come into their coffers. So naturally they're still like, well,

0:14:53.600 --> 0:14:56.200
<v Speaker 3>we just need to stick with the cuts that we've

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<v Speaker 3>made to be far more efficient. But efficiency and kicking

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<v Speaker 3>people out of hospital beds early, and like you say,

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<v Speaker 3>this is one of the most crucial, simplistic, bottom line

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<v Speaker 3>issues for the government to pay for. This is what

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<v Speaker 3>we give you our tax dollars for, so when people

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<v Speaker 3>are sick you can look after them, and you can't

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<v Speaker 3>even do that. It's just yet another notch on the

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<v Speaker 3>belt of why to leave Victoria.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell that, I mean, they've got to be so broken, imagining,

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<v Speaker 2>so broke that you can't even keep people in This that.

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<v Speaker 5>Is broke in both senses of the word, it is

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<v Speaker 5>just broken functionally, it has become institutionally broken, and obviously

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<v Speaker 5>the various corruption bodies in the Oberinsmen have had something

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<v Speaker 5>to say about that. But also it's just got no money.

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<v Speaker 5>And all the people say, are we living in society

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<v Speaker 5>not an economy. If you can't balance a budget, if

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<v Speaker 5>you can't keep a state economy ticking over to the

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<v Speaker 5>point where you can run budget surpluces to pay for

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<v Speaker 5>the services you need, this is what happened. You get

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<v Speaker 5>people gotten up with little aprons on and marched out

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<v Speaker 5>the doors with their little white tushy flashing in the background.

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<v Speaker 5>And if that wants if you want that to be

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<v Speaker 5>the face of Victoria, carry on well.

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<v Speaker 3>Speaking of them having no money, the Allen government in

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<v Speaker 3>Victoria is now facing seventeen thousand, five hundred police officers

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<v Speaker 3>who want a pay rise yesterday, and our undertaking industrial

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<v Speaker 3>action to see that they get it. The nurses just

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<v Speaker 3>got a twenty eight percent pay rise. The firefighters are

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<v Speaker 3>fighting for similar, so are the paramedics. This is a

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<v Speaker 3>broke government who is simply sitting there with empty pockets

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<v Speaker 3>saying we can't help you out at the moment. So

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<v Speaker 3>the cops are taking matters into their own hands, demanding

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<v Speaker 3>a twenty four percent pay rise, which would be six

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<v Speaker 3>percent annually over the next four years, as well as

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<v Speaker 3>the introduction of eight point five hour shifts, because of

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<v Speaker 3>course they do a lot of overtime and they're not

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<v Speaker 3>getting paid for it, so they're sick and tired of it.

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<v Speaker 3>They want a fair deal. The nurses just got one

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<v Speaker 3>and they like the idea of it. Here is Police

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<v Speaker 3>Association Secretary Wayne Gatt telling us just how dire the

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<v Speaker 3>situation for police in Victoria.

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<v Speaker 4>Is right now.

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<v Speaker 7>Morale is hopeless in policing. I've really seen it worse,

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<v Speaker 7>to be quite honest, and I know it's easy to

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<v Speaker 7>come out and say that, but just imagine it. The

0:17:21.160 --> 0:17:24.360
<v Speaker 7>police station behind me is all all but closed. It's

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<v Speaker 7>all but closed. There's a couple of police officers inside,

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<v Speaker 7>but that's all you got today. Fitzroy is shut. That's

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<v Speaker 7>the closest police s action. We can't do this press

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<v Speaker 7>conference there because it's shut today. That's how threadbare these

0:17:36.160 --> 0:17:38.439
<v Speaker 7>police stations are. So imagine what it's like working in

0:17:38.480 --> 0:17:40.560
<v Speaker 7>that environment. Because I can tell you now crime is

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<v Speaker 7>not going down in Victoria, so the workload confronting police

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<v Speaker 7>officers and persos is not getting any less.

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<v Speaker 3>Way to tell the crimson Victoria, Hey, stright, now, while

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<v Speaker 3>the iron's hot. Should they actually get this deal with

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<v Speaker 3>the state government, it would add two hundred and ten

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<v Speaker 3>million dollars to the three point two billion dollar bill

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<v Speaker 3>that the taxpayer pays every year in Victoria to fund

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<v Speaker 3>the police. When you put it that way, it doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>sound like that much more.

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<v Speaker 4>And show's got no money.

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<v Speaker 5>Don't give the hospitals to stop sick.

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<v Speaker 3>These guys are saying, we can't keep operating under the

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<v Speaker 3>current system.

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<v Speaker 4>We need more.

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<v Speaker 3>You've got to do better by us. What what option

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<v Speaker 3>does the state have these.

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<v Speaker 4>Guys going again?

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<v Speaker 5>They destroyed the economy during COVID. They destroyed the economy

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<v Speaker 5>for votes to stoke and appease people's fears.

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<v Speaker 4>And this is the result of it.

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<v Speaker 3>They have.

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<v Speaker 5>They have literally driven the state into the ground. They've

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<v Speaker 5>given the economy into the ground to the point where

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<v Speaker 5>they can't even put on the Commonwealth games basically an

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<v Speaker 5>egg and spoon race, and they've simply.

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<v Speaker 4>Got no money.

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<v Speaker 2>They can't get enough coppers, they can't keep people who

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<v Speaker 2>are sick in hoss and it's extraordinary that they've got

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<v Speaker 2>no money because the land tax in Victoria, and anyone

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<v Speaker 2>who owns a rental property in Victoria will know what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about, has gone through the roof. Daniel Andrews

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<v Speaker 2>fiddled with that, jacked it up so much. I mean,

0:19:12.520 --> 0:19:16.520
<v Speaker 2>I know people who are selling up in Victoria any

0:19:16.600 --> 0:19:20.840
<v Speaker 2>property they've got and buying in wa Queensland, New South Wales,

0:19:20.920 --> 0:19:24.439
<v Speaker 2>South Australia, basically anywhere else because the land tax has

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<v Speaker 2>gone so high. And you know what that's done, It's

0:19:26.560 --> 0:19:28.960
<v Speaker 2>driven the rents up. Well done to the Alan gup.

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<v Speaker 2>The one win, the one win though that the police

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<v Speaker 2>have had in Victoria is they've been given the power

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<v Speaker 2>to move on a bunch of do good a protesters

0:19:38.560 --> 0:19:40.159
<v Speaker 2>who are going to rock up to one of the

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<v Speaker 2>biggest military expos in Melbourne next week. Now there's been

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<v Speaker 2>a threat from the Greens in particular this thing, what's

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<v Speaker 2>it called. I've lost the lame horses the landforces, Thank

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<v Speaker 2>you very much, Joe. It's the biggest military expo in

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<v Speaker 2>the country. It's one of the biggest military expos in

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<v Speaker 2>the world. Actually it was in Brisbane two years ago

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty twenty two. This edition is going to be

0:20:03.840 --> 0:20:07.239
<v Speaker 2>held in Melbourne just next week, and there have been

0:20:07.320 --> 0:20:10.800
<v Speaker 2>threats that will be up to twenty thousand protesters rocking

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<v Speaker 2>up to this thing. How exactly they're going to do that,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, but the police have now been given

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<v Speaker 2>the power to move on any protesters who rock up

0:20:18.560 --> 0:20:20.399
<v Speaker 2>with masks on, because of course if you rock up

0:20:20.440 --> 0:20:23.440
<v Speaker 2>with a mask, you're concealing your identity because you're going

0:20:23.520 --> 0:20:25.720
<v Speaker 2>to be up to no good. We've got a little

0:20:25.800 --> 0:20:28.040
<v Speaker 2>taste of how all of this might go in Brisbane

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<v Speaker 2>two years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Take a look, I mean Granny with her pot. There

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<v Speaker 1>is doing a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>But of course now we have the other complications laughing.

0:20:58.080 --> 0:21:01.719
<v Speaker 2>We have the added complication of the war between Israel

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<v Speaker 2>and Gazas. So the Greens are incensed about it. How

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<v Speaker 2>dare you have a military expo? We should not be

0:21:07.240 --> 0:21:10.360
<v Speaker 2>allowed to defend ourselves in this country, should we? It's

0:21:10.359 --> 0:21:12.520
<v Speaker 2>all just a great celebration of war. Well I'd like

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<v Speaker 2>to see what the Greens will do when China finally

0:21:14.520 --> 0:21:16.080
<v Speaker 2>rocks up at the shores. We won't have anything left

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<v Speaker 2>to defend ourselves because they said you don't need military whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 2>But I do find it slightly ironic that the Victorian

0:21:23.000 --> 0:21:25.920
<v Speaker 2>police have now been given the power to move on

0:21:26.080 --> 0:21:30.160
<v Speaker 2>people who wear masks to protest, when just three odd

0:21:30.240 --> 0:21:32.560
<v Speaker 2>years ago, if you rocked up to a protest and

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<v Speaker 2>you didn't have a mask on, will you be.

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<v Speaker 1>Arrested for that?

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<v Speaker 2>Ah? Very good.

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<v Speaker 3>It's hard for these guys to stay on top of things, really,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, no wonder the Victorian police are just like,

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<v Speaker 3>we've had enough, We're out of here. These Queenslanders are

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<v Speaker 3>going to be doing the same. Do you want mass

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<v Speaker 3>on or mass off for crying out loud? But whatever

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<v Speaker 3>you've got to do to get rid of the protesters

0:21:52.800 --> 0:21:55.639
<v Speaker 3>so people can go about their lawful business. It's not

0:21:55.760 --> 0:21:59.320
<v Speaker 3>a protest if you're stopping people from doing that. Back

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<v Speaker 3>to Victoria, where a lesbian group is seeking the Administration

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<v Speaker 3>Tribunals of Appeals to overturn a decision made by the

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<v Speaker 3>Human Rights Commission back in October last year which said

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<v Speaker 3>that they were forbidden to disallow trans women and bisexuals

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<v Speaker 3>from attending their public events. For lesbian group says, we

0:22:24.560 --> 0:22:27.560
<v Speaker 3>are seeking to discriminate. We're female and.

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<v Speaker 1>We'd like some rights please.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, good luck, lesbians.

0:22:31.000 --> 0:22:34.040
<v Speaker 3>We scrape women haven't had any luck in this space,

0:22:34.200 --> 0:22:39.400
<v Speaker 3>but strength to your arm, try your hardest while not Meanwhile,

0:22:39.560 --> 0:22:43.520
<v Speaker 3>a member of this group says they are so isolated

0:22:43.680 --> 0:22:47.040
<v Speaker 3>speaking about lesbian feminists. They have no one else to

0:22:47.119 --> 0:22:49.440
<v Speaker 3>talk to and they don't know where to find the support.

0:22:49.880 --> 0:22:56.160
<v Speaker 3>There's nothing anti trans or about our application at all. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>if only we could say that every time we'd like

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<v Speaker 3>a biology man ejected from our female lonly gyms or

0:23:03.080 --> 0:23:08.359
<v Speaker 3>female only sports or female lonely anything. So I'm very

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<v Speaker 3>curious to see how this ends, because if the lesbians

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<v Speaker 3>get the rights that us straight women have been fighting

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<v Speaker 3>for four years now unsuccessfully, that's going.

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<v Speaker 1>To I was going to say.

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<v Speaker 2>I was going to say, I was going to say,

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<v Speaker 2>more strength to the lesbian arm. But a lesbian arm

0:23:24.920 --> 0:23:27.040
<v Speaker 2>probably has more strength than a lot of other women's

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<v Speaker 2>arms in many cases. But well, I'm just saying that

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<v Speaker 2>they actually know they work out, and have you ever

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<v Speaker 2>watched the AFLW.

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<v Speaker 1>Right women don't work out anyway?

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<v Speaker 4>Anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>The comparison that they're making in this case is to

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<v Speaker 2>the Peel Hotel in Melbourne, which was a gay bar

0:23:46.960 --> 0:23:50.040
<v Speaker 2>that was given the ability to turn away straight men

0:23:50.240 --> 0:23:52.600
<v Speaker 2>because it was a haven for gay men. And this

0:23:52.680 --> 0:23:54.359
<v Speaker 2>is go back decades, but it was a place for

0:23:54.520 --> 0:23:57.119
<v Speaker 2>gay men to go and feel safe away from the

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<v Speaker 2>rest of society. So they were given the ability to

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<v Speaker 2>turn straight in a way at the door. And the

0:24:01.480 --> 0:24:04.040
<v Speaker 2>lesbians are saying, well, why can't we have exactly the

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<v Speaker 2>same right. The only difference here is that we are female,

0:24:07.200 --> 0:24:09.040
<v Speaker 2>and I don't see why they shouldn't have the right.

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<v Speaker 2>We had this discussion all the time about whether there

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<v Speaker 2>should be men's only clubs and women's only clubs, and

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<v Speaker 2>of course the complaint is always about men only clubs.

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<v Speaker 2>We never talk about the fact that, you know, for

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<v Speaker 2>the Adelaide Club, there's also the Queen Adelaide Club, and

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<v Speaker 2>on and on it goes there are exclusive clubs only

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<v Speaker 2>for women.

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<v Speaker 5>Member.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, well, I mean you can.

0:24:29.280 --> 0:24:31.960
<v Speaker 2>Club is a gay bartrite my applications in for the

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<v Speaker 2>Queen out of the club because I could be a

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<v Speaker 2>woman for all you know. But but why should they

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<v Speaker 2>not be able to have a place or a space

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<v Speaker 2>or an event that is exclusively for lesbian women.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I would think if it's your group and you've

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<v Speaker 5>kind of started, it's kind of like saying anyone should

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<v Speaker 5>be allowed to be in the Beatles. Well, no, if

0:24:48.560 --> 0:24:50.760
<v Speaker 5>it's your group and you've formed it for a particular.

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<v Speaker 3>Look how that went in the courts with Giggles versus

0:24:56.359 --> 0:25:00.440
<v Speaker 3>Giggle versus Tickle exact que a ridiculous same for a

0:25:00.520 --> 0:25:03.120
<v Speaker 3>court case. How is anyone supposed to take that seriously?

0:25:03.520 --> 0:25:06.760
<v Speaker 3>But they had created an online space that was supposed

0:25:06.760 --> 0:25:09.560
<v Speaker 3>to be women only and they've lost.

0:25:09.520 --> 0:25:10.480
<v Speaker 1>They've lost in court.

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<v Speaker 4>That's right not to mention the case of Giggle and

0:25:12.280 --> 0:25:20.879
<v Speaker 4>who which is about an owl? And anyway, point.

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<v Speaker 5>Being, I think you should be able to you, you

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<v Speaker 5>should be able to decide, you should have a right

0:25:23.200 --> 0:25:26.520
<v Speaker 5>to do and don't want to associate with. And again

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<v Speaker 5>I do not understand a Melbourne left This is another

0:25:30.400 --> 0:25:33.760
<v Speaker 5>example of how broken Melbourne is. I don't understand Melbourne

0:25:34.320 --> 0:25:37.760
<v Speaker 5>left wing landscape in which lesbian separatism is not allowed.

0:25:39.200 --> 0:25:40.520
<v Speaker 4>How fitial home.

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<v Speaker 1>Melbourne.

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<v Speaker 5>My entire nineteen nineties at Melbourne University, that's just all

0:25:47.040 --> 0:25:49.560
<v Speaker 5>everything is turned upside down now. And I know a

0:25:49.600 --> 0:25:54.920
<v Speaker 5>bit about the appeals policy on heterosexual men because I

0:25:55.119 --> 0:25:58.040
<v Speaker 5>went to the Peel when my youth, and I always

0:25:58.080 --> 0:26:00.639
<v Speaker 5>thought it was very unfair because I I went there

0:26:00.640 --> 0:26:02.040
<v Speaker 5>and you know, the girls would often want to go

0:26:02.080 --> 0:26:03.520
<v Speaker 5>there because girls I want to go to gay bars

0:26:03.520 --> 0:26:05.560
<v Speaker 5>because they don't get harassed on the advance floor and stuff.

0:26:06.160 --> 0:26:08.080
<v Speaker 5>But I, you know, I get dragged along. And I

0:26:08.119 --> 0:26:10.520
<v Speaker 5>always thought it was terribly unfair because of course I

0:26:10.840 --> 0:26:13.760
<v Speaker 5>am incredibly hot, and so as soon as I walk

0:26:13.800 --> 0:26:17.400
<v Speaker 5>in the door, guys hitting on me right and said,

0:26:17.880 --> 0:26:20.080
<v Speaker 5>I don't want to hurt their feelings or anything. And

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<v Speaker 5>I also obviously don't want to say, oh sorry, I'm straight,

0:26:23.160 --> 0:26:25.600
<v Speaker 5>because that's just false advertised, you know what I'm saying,

0:26:25.880 --> 0:26:26.399
<v Speaker 5>And so you.

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<v Speaker 4>Know I've got you know, I had this poor guy

0:26:28.040 --> 0:26:29.439
<v Speaker 4>hitting on me for like ten minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>Cruel to Joe.

0:26:31.560 --> 0:26:33.160
<v Speaker 4>That's right, That's what I'm saying.

0:26:33.160 --> 0:26:37.159
<v Speaker 5>I'm supporting it to some boundaries here. There's only so

0:26:37.280 --> 0:26:38.680
<v Speaker 5>much of the Joe dog to go around.

0:26:38.800 --> 0:26:40.760
<v Speaker 2>But you know, you'd be more worried if they weren't

0:26:40.800 --> 0:26:42.679
<v Speaker 2>interested in you, because you go, well, then I really am.

0:26:43.240 --> 0:26:45.160
<v Speaker 5>No, I'm beautiful, I'm hot to try and you should

0:26:45.160 --> 0:26:46.680
<v Speaker 5>see me cuts and moves on the down floor.

0:26:47.080 --> 0:26:48.960
<v Speaker 1>I can't wait to see that. Actually, we should do

0:26:49.040 --> 0:26:49.560
<v Speaker 1>that one night.

0:26:49.600 --> 0:26:51.720
<v Speaker 2>There's a you don't see it here on the set,

0:26:51.800 --> 0:26:54.879
<v Speaker 2>but there is actually over behind Liz's shoulder. There there

0:26:54.960 --> 0:26:56.680
<v Speaker 2>is a little bit where you could do a jig,

0:26:56.760 --> 0:26:58.399
<v Speaker 2>and I reckon, we should get Joe up there one

0:26:58.480 --> 0:27:00.960
<v Speaker 2>night after we've got a couple of shep see how

0:27:01.040 --> 0:27:01.200
<v Speaker 2>we go.

0:27:01.280 --> 0:27:02.960
<v Speaker 1>We're going to do some karaoke on the Late.

0:27:02.880 --> 0:27:05.440
<v Speaker 2>Debate one night, let's go to the UK where the

0:27:05.520 --> 0:27:08.080
<v Speaker 2>Nottingham Shear Police have come up with a novel idea.

0:27:08.119 --> 0:27:11.119
<v Speaker 2>And I hate this stuff because you know, the world

0:27:11.359 --> 0:27:14.200
<v Speaker 2>is divided enough as it is, but the Nottingham Shear

0:27:14.240 --> 0:27:17.720
<v Speaker 2>Police are now asking members of the public to dobby

0:27:17.760 --> 0:27:20.240
<v Speaker 2>in other members of the public for things that aren't

0:27:20.359 --> 0:27:23.720
<v Speaker 2>quite crimes, but they don't particularly like. So if you

0:27:23.800 --> 0:27:26.720
<v Speaker 2>see someone doing something on the road that perhaps isn't

0:27:26.840 --> 0:27:29.280
<v Speaker 2>against the law, but you think it's a bit iffy,

0:27:29.600 --> 0:27:32.200
<v Speaker 2>well seeing some vision after the police, and then the

0:27:32.240 --> 0:27:35.280
<v Speaker 2>police will use their abundant resources. They must be doing

0:27:35.320 --> 0:27:37.800
<v Speaker 2>a bit better than the Victorian police to send a

0:27:38.000 --> 0:27:40.440
<v Speaker 2>letter to the driver of that vehicle or the owner

0:27:40.480 --> 0:27:42.680
<v Speaker 2>of that vehicle to say, buddy, you should do a

0:27:42.720 --> 0:27:43.880
<v Speaker 2>little bit better next time.

0:27:43.920 --> 0:27:44.679
<v Speaker 1>And of course some of the.

0:27:44.680 --> 0:27:48.080
<v Speaker 2>Complaints that are coming in are about people shouting at

0:27:48.320 --> 0:27:51.399
<v Speaker 2>cyclists and one man has put his letter up on

0:27:51.840 --> 0:27:54.720
<v Speaker 2>X of course formerly Twitter, in which it says, and

0:27:54.840 --> 0:27:57.320
<v Speaker 2>you can see the letter on the screen. The police

0:27:57.359 --> 0:27:59.240
<v Speaker 2>have taken the time to write this. He's not committed

0:27:59.240 --> 0:28:02.240
<v Speaker 2>any crime runing to him anyway. The letter says, quote,

0:28:02.520 --> 0:28:05.080
<v Speaker 2>it is alleged that the driver of the vehicle pulled

0:28:05.119 --> 0:28:09.240
<v Speaker 2>alongside a group of cyclists and shouted single file, you

0:28:09.480 --> 0:28:12.440
<v Speaker 2>bunch of and the next word starts with a C.

0:28:12.960 --> 0:28:16.840
<v Speaker 2>Whilst riding to a breast may appear to take may

0:28:16.920 --> 0:28:20.159
<v Speaker 2>it bear to take up more road space? Cyclists can

0:28:20.280 --> 0:28:22.000
<v Speaker 2>ride to a breast and it can.

0:28:21.960 --> 0:28:24.639
<v Speaker 1>Be safer to do so, particularly in larger groups.

0:28:24.840 --> 0:28:29.359
<v Speaker 2>So please bear be a r that's not how U

0:28:29.440 --> 0:28:34.360
<v Speaker 2>spell bear shame mind when using the roads. And I'm

0:28:34.440 --> 0:28:37.480
<v Speaker 2>sure there are cyclists watching tonight who are like, hooray,

0:28:37.760 --> 0:28:41.560
<v Speaker 2>finally someone standing up for us. But surely police resources

0:28:41.600 --> 0:28:44.520
<v Speaker 2>could be better used than sending off letters to people

0:28:44.600 --> 0:28:47.719
<v Speaker 2>for using naughty words. But to the cyclists who are

0:28:47.760 --> 0:28:50.680
<v Speaker 2>watching and have encountered this before, well they know what

0:28:50.800 --> 0:28:51.640
<v Speaker 2>we're talking about.

0:28:51.720 --> 0:28:52.160
<v Speaker 1>Have a look.

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<v Speaker 8>But you really pressed me on what I haven't done

0:28:55.680 --> 0:28:57.520
<v Speaker 8>anything that's the problem.

0:28:58.360 --> 0:28:59.760
<v Speaker 2>But d'ant to bought you over down?

0:29:01.520 --> 0:29:05.360
<v Speaker 1>Well, Tom Dimon all blah, don't you like her? Back

0:29:05.400 --> 0:29:11.959
<v Speaker 1>to polite job, I get the back way. I am

0:29:12.000 --> 0:29:13.160
<v Speaker 1>in the bicklayyah.

0:29:13.240 --> 0:29:13.960
<v Speaker 3>Well just.

0:29:16.840 --> 0:29:19.880
<v Speaker 2>For our deputy head of Programs, James Birtles, who was

0:29:19.960 --> 0:29:22.680
<v Speaker 2>complaining before the show that we we're going to slag

0:29:22.840 --> 0:29:26.840
<v Speaker 2>off cyclists here tonight. But surely the police have better

0:29:26.960 --> 0:29:30.360
<v Speaker 2>things to do than sending off letters because someone swore

0:29:30.480 --> 0:29:31.480
<v Speaker 2>it someone Well.

0:29:31.360 --> 0:29:32.480
<v Speaker 4>Look even James of Defense.

0:29:32.520 --> 0:29:34.760
<v Speaker 5>I was going to slag off cyclist until I got

0:29:34.840 --> 0:29:38.160
<v Speaker 5>his email and discovered he was a cyclist. Now I

0:29:38.280 --> 0:29:41.360
<v Speaker 5>am fighting for cyclists to the dead. I will die

0:29:41.440 --> 0:29:44.640
<v Speaker 5>on this shill. These not all heroes wear capes somewhere

0:29:44.760 --> 0:29:45.000
<v Speaker 5>like her.

0:29:46.120 --> 0:29:49.360
<v Speaker 4>They shouldn't be wearing on behalf of the on behalf

0:29:49.760 --> 0:29:50.480
<v Speaker 4>of the community.

0:29:50.680 --> 0:29:53.960
<v Speaker 2>James James is actually a fit bloke, so he probably

0:29:53.960 --> 0:29:55.600
<v Speaker 2>doesn't look as bad in like her as some of

0:29:55.640 --> 0:29:56.800
<v Speaker 2>the blokes I see getting around.

0:29:56.840 --> 0:29:58.120
<v Speaker 1>My father's a mammal bug.

0:29:58.240 --> 0:30:00.640
<v Speaker 4>No, I I can't stand up for them.

0:30:00.720 --> 0:30:03.960
<v Speaker 3>I almost had a heart attack just last week taking

0:30:04.080 --> 0:30:06.800
<v Speaker 3>out a cyclist who seemed to think it was perfectly

0:30:06.920 --> 0:30:08.800
<v Speaker 3>okay to cut in front of a car.

0:30:09.000 --> 0:30:10.320
<v Speaker 1>He did not indicate that he.

0:30:10.440 --> 0:30:13.800
<v Speaker 3>Was turning I'm going straight and I heard, for the

0:30:13.920 --> 0:30:17.680
<v Speaker 3>first time in my life a grown man's scream. But

0:30:18.160 --> 0:30:22.720
<v Speaker 3>it was terrifying thought for me. I almost someone through

0:30:22.800 --> 0:30:26.840
<v Speaker 3>no fall to my own. This guy's just blissfully cycling

0:30:26.960 --> 0:30:30.640
<v Speaker 3>along and decides to without even looking over his shoulder,

0:30:31.360 --> 0:30:32.800
<v Speaker 3>so there wasn't any hand out.

0:30:32.920 --> 0:30:35.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm about to go right. He didn't even look. He

0:30:36.040 --> 0:30:38.480
<v Speaker 1>was just veering off to the right in front of me.

0:30:38.960 --> 0:30:42.040
<v Speaker 3>It was absolutely terrifying, right into the police.

0:30:41.880 --> 0:30:44.080
<v Speaker 1>When you should ride into the police and traumatize.

0:30:44.480 --> 0:30:46.560
<v Speaker 2>The only problem is that because he's riding a bike,

0:30:46.600 --> 0:30:48.800
<v Speaker 2>he doesn't have a registration plate or anything on the front,

0:30:48.840 --> 0:30:49.800
<v Speaker 2>so they won't know who he is.

0:30:49.920 --> 0:30:50.960
<v Speaker 1>They can't write back to it.

0:30:51.120 --> 0:30:51.800
<v Speaker 4>I'm not for that.

0:30:52.240 --> 0:30:53.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm not for that. I know you would be.

0:30:54.160 --> 0:30:54.640
<v Speaker 3>No, I'm not.

0:30:54.760 --> 0:30:57.320
<v Speaker 2>Actually, I do not think that bikes should be registered,

0:30:57.560 --> 0:31:00.240
<v Speaker 2>because the one beauty of riding a bike is that

0:31:00.360 --> 0:31:02.840
<v Speaker 2>you can break the law, you can run red lights,

0:31:03.120 --> 0:31:04.520
<v Speaker 2>you can speak as you.

0:31:04.560 --> 0:31:07.560
<v Speaker 4>Want, and you can die out of dark places. Here

0:31:10.560 --> 0:31:13.480
<v Speaker 4>what are they? This is this is the existential question

0:31:14.120 --> 0:31:16.400
<v Speaker 4>of the bike of the cyclist. What are you?

0:31:16.520 --> 0:31:19.160
<v Speaker 5>I was in Darlinghurst, in City, in the city city,

0:31:19.520 --> 0:31:23.480
<v Speaker 5>very urbane, sophisticated environment. You know, I would vote for

0:31:23.520 --> 0:31:27.000
<v Speaker 5>Clover more and more often if they could. And I'm

0:31:27.080 --> 0:31:30.520
<v Speaker 5>right there with my old stumping ground, and this perfectly

0:31:30.640 --> 0:31:34.200
<v Speaker 5>like cool little, friendly, little inner city type is just

0:31:34.240 --> 0:31:36.600
<v Speaker 5>sitting there in the cool little inner city fuel efficient

0:31:36.920 --> 0:31:41.360
<v Speaker 5>motor vehicle and e bike user sort of crossed the

0:31:41.480 --> 0:31:43.920
<v Speaker 5>road in front of them and then was and then

0:31:44.240 --> 0:31:45.960
<v Speaker 5>was on the road in front of them, So it's

0:31:45.960 --> 0:31:47.480
<v Speaker 5>just sort of like cross the road like a pedestrian

0:31:47.680 --> 0:31:51.000
<v Speaker 5>and then and then took off like a car as

0:31:51.040 --> 0:31:52.240
<v Speaker 5>I was using the lane, and.

0:31:53.760 --> 0:31:55.680
<v Speaker 4>You could see the driver's head exploded and he.

0:31:55.760 --> 0:31:59.640
<v Speaker 5>Just got okay, and you want car or and he

0:31:59.720 --> 0:32:01.120
<v Speaker 5>didn't make up your mind?

0:32:01.200 --> 0:32:01.640
<v Speaker 1>What are you?

0:32:02.080 --> 0:32:03.920
<v Speaker 5>I think this is what This is what we've got

0:32:04.000 --> 0:32:06.800
<v Speaker 5>to get to the bottom of, because everyone like there

0:32:06.880 --> 0:32:07.680
<v Speaker 5>is they are?

0:32:07.920 --> 0:32:08.760
<v Speaker 4>Is they think they are?

0:32:08.840 --> 0:32:12.840
<v Speaker 5>This is a matter of intense psychoanalytical interest. This could

0:32:12.960 --> 0:32:15.120
<v Speaker 5>change the way the human mind works.

0:32:15.280 --> 0:32:15.840
<v Speaker 4>Is it a bird?

0:32:15.960 --> 0:32:16.520
<v Speaker 1>Is it a plane?

0:32:16.640 --> 0:32:18.000
<v Speaker 4>Is it an e is it a cycle?

0:32:19.200 --> 0:32:22.160
<v Speaker 2>Let's stick in the UK for a moment where the

0:32:22.360 --> 0:32:27.040
<v Speaker 2>Manchester Museum has well, I've been having a strange exhibition recently.

0:32:27.120 --> 0:32:29.840
<v Speaker 2>They've decided that they need to reinterpret everything within the

0:32:30.000 --> 0:32:35.120
<v Speaker 2>museum within the lens of lgbt IQ. I thought Pride

0:32:35.160 --> 0:32:37.720
<v Speaker 2>Month was back in June, but apparently they're only just.

0:32:37.880 --> 0:32:41.640
<v Speaker 1>Catching up Pride Month in the UK. That's correct. In fact,

0:32:41.680 --> 0:32:42.920
<v Speaker 1>every day is Pride Day.

0:32:43.000 --> 0:32:45.160
<v Speaker 2>They get to three hundred and sixty five days a year,

0:32:45.160 --> 0:32:47.240
<v Speaker 2>and three hundred and sixty six in a leap year

0:32:47.320 --> 0:32:51.200
<v Speaker 2>these days, it seems. But the Manchester Museum has seen

0:32:51.280 --> 0:32:53.479
<v Speaker 2>fit to sort of tell you everything you're looking at

0:32:53.560 --> 0:32:56.000
<v Speaker 2>in the museum and what sort of connection it might

0:32:56.080 --> 0:33:00.720
<v Speaker 2>have to lgbt IQ history, which means they've deal into

0:33:00.760 --> 0:33:02.880
<v Speaker 2>the history of a lot of the things that they

0:33:02.960 --> 0:33:06.880
<v Speaker 2>have in this museum, including the texta Dormied Animals and

0:33:07.000 --> 0:33:10.720
<v Speaker 2>who would have thought that taxidermied animals are proof of.

0:33:10.880 --> 0:33:15.120
<v Speaker 1>All the discrimination in the world. Manchester Museums proved it somehow.

0:33:16.480 --> 0:33:18.320
<v Speaker 9>So you can see behind me, Who've got a lot

0:33:18.360 --> 0:33:21.600
<v Speaker 9>of birds, a lot of taxidermy birds, and so during

0:33:21.640 --> 0:33:24.320
<v Speaker 9>the Victorian period was when a lot of these birds

0:33:24.360 --> 0:33:28.960
<v Speaker 9>were taxidermy. The Victorian period was really run by sins,

0:33:29.040 --> 0:33:33.600
<v Speaker 9>straight white men, and is very clear their perceptions that

0:33:33.640 --> 0:33:34.520
<v Speaker 9>are shown in beers.

0:33:35.000 --> 0:33:35.880
<v Speaker 1>So the woman was.

0:33:35.920 --> 0:33:38.360
<v Speaker 9>Usually seen as quite submissive. That's why she's seen us

0:33:38.400 --> 0:33:40.960
<v Speaker 9>lower down. The man was seen as very dominant, so

0:33:41.040 --> 0:33:43.520
<v Speaker 9>that's when he was positioned higher up. And then having

0:33:43.560 --> 0:33:46.920
<v Speaker 9>the children is really solidifying that nucleus family that was

0:33:46.960 --> 0:33:50.160
<v Speaker 9>a big thing back day. What's very interesting as well

0:33:50.320 --> 0:33:52.040
<v Speaker 9>is that when we actually look at the collection that

0:33:52.120 --> 0:33:55.520
<v Speaker 9>we have, about eighty percent of the animals and insects

0:33:55.760 --> 0:33:58.920
<v Speaker 9>are male. So even when we're looking around the museum,

0:33:59.360 --> 0:34:01.560
<v Speaker 9>most of this as a proportional to what we see

0:34:01.640 --> 0:34:02.120
<v Speaker 9>day to day.

0:34:02.960 --> 0:34:08.000
<v Speaker 2>Oh my goodness, there are too many male taxidermy birds

0:34:09.120 --> 0:34:12.440
<v Speaker 2>nuclear family, which was big back then, she says. She

0:34:12.520 --> 0:34:14.239
<v Speaker 2>then goes on because that clip thing goes on for

0:34:14.280 --> 0:34:17.520
<v Speaker 2>another minute or so. She then goes on to say

0:34:17.600 --> 0:34:21.080
<v Speaker 2>that there are lots of examples of insects and stuff

0:34:21.160 --> 0:34:24.160
<v Speaker 2>that they've got in the museum, and that these insects

0:34:24.239 --> 0:34:26.640
<v Speaker 2>are intersex and you know, this is proof of the

0:34:27.239 --> 0:34:29.160
<v Speaker 2>l g B t i Q stuff going on in

0:34:29.239 --> 0:34:32.600
<v Speaker 2>the world. I thought, I thought we all knew that

0:34:32.880 --> 0:34:36.439
<v Speaker 2>snails and certain fish and whatever can change their sex.

0:34:36.719 --> 0:34:38.800
<v Speaker 2>Took nothing to do with them being l g B

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<v Speaker 2>t i Q. I don't think a fish could tell

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<v Speaker 2>you what it identifies as it's just a part of nature.

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<v Speaker 5>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>But well, supposedly the penguins are gain but they never

0:34:50.040 --> 0:34:50.799
<v Speaker 2>actually asked the.

0:34:52.640 --> 0:34:53.960
<v Speaker 1>They just assumed because.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, imagine delving so deep into the fact that there

0:35:02.040 --> 0:35:04.680
<v Speaker 2>are too many male texta dormied animals and thinking that

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<v Speaker 2>that is proof of misogyny.

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<v Speaker 3>Even taxidermied animals speak to.

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<v Speaker 1>The fact that we're all oppressed.

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<v Speaker 4>I just love the fact that she that she said

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<v Speaker 4>that the Victorian period was run by straight hock.

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<v Speaker 1>Did she forget who the queen was?

0:35:19.640 --> 0:35:21.040
<v Speaker 4>There was one exception to that rule.

0:35:21.400 --> 0:35:24.040
<v Speaker 5>Okay, she's right, she's right, But in almost every other

0:35:24.120 --> 0:35:28.359
<v Speaker 5>case it was one fairly significant exception to that rule.

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<v Speaker 3>Just the queen didn't get a mention, clearly doesn't know

0:35:32.400 --> 0:35:35.719
<v Speaker 3>her history, among other things. Just quickly, before we go

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<v Speaker 3>to the break, Elon Musk has agreed to censor Elon

0:35:39.800 --> 0:35:44.719
<v Speaker 3>Musk basically in Brazil, following a court order. You may

0:35:44.760 --> 0:35:49.879
<v Speaker 3>be across this long running now fight between Brazil, who

0:35:49.960 --> 0:35:53.040
<v Speaker 3>does not want freedom of speech in its country and Elon,

0:35:53.200 --> 0:35:56.120
<v Speaker 3>who's here to bring free speech to the world.

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<v Speaker 1>They the court in Brazil.

0:35:58.760 --> 0:36:03.480
<v Speaker 3>That is, has cut off star Link's assets. They literally

0:36:03.680 --> 0:36:06.800
<v Speaker 3>froze their account to pressure the company to cover fines

0:36:07.200 --> 0:36:12.760
<v Speaker 3>imposed on X, otherwise known as Twitter in Brazil. So Starlink,

0:36:13.280 --> 0:36:17.040
<v Speaker 3>which is owned and operated by Elon Musk, has finally

0:36:17.160 --> 0:36:22.319
<v Speaker 3>agreed to deplatform X, which is owned and operated by

0:36:22.600 --> 0:36:27.799
<v Speaker 3>Elon Musk, to obey the court order while fighting using

0:36:27.960 --> 0:36:30.920
<v Speaker 3>everything at his disposal to overturn this and get it

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<v Speaker 3>back up and running.

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<v Speaker 5>So despite all his money, despite all his money, all

0:36:36.520 --> 0:36:38.960
<v Speaker 5>his wealth, all his power, all his intelligence, he still

0:36:38.960 --> 0:36:40.439
<v Speaker 5>couldn't handle a Brazilian whack.

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<v Speaker 1>Very evil judge.

0:36:43.280 --> 0:36:45.799
<v Speaker 3>There's a lot more to this story, and I'm telling

0:36:45.880 --> 0:36:47.719
<v Speaker 3>you we're in the fight of our lives when it

0:36:47.760 --> 0:36:50.280
<v Speaker 3>comes to free speech in the free world.

0:36:50.640 --> 0:36:52.839
<v Speaker 2>X Max the spot he After the break, we'll get

0:36:52.840 --> 0:36:55.400
<v Speaker 2>into the papers and you'll learn that Bill Shorten has

0:36:55.440 --> 0:36:56.040
<v Speaker 2>a fat dog.

0:36:56.280 --> 0:36:58.279
<v Speaker 1>I promise you the story is better than it sounds.

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<v Speaker 1>Little bit more.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's get stuck into the papers, beginning with the camera times.

0:37:05.480 --> 0:37:09.239
<v Speaker 3>The camera times, and a fat dog owned by departing

0:37:09.640 --> 0:37:11.040
<v Speaker 3>MP Bill Shorten.

0:37:11.560 --> 0:37:13.759
<v Speaker 4>No tears shed there care of the dog.

0:37:13.920 --> 0:37:16.839
<v Speaker 3>The headline raids get it instead of hair of the dog,

0:37:17.000 --> 0:37:18.080
<v Speaker 3>badoom tish.

0:37:18.320 --> 0:37:21.680
<v Speaker 8>An emotionally warm bulldog named Walter help Bill Short and

0:37:21.760 --> 0:37:26.080
<v Speaker 8>regroup after his dreams of becoming PM were shattered by

0:37:26.160 --> 0:37:29.480
<v Speaker 8>his unlosable election defeat in twenty nineteen.

0:37:30.120 --> 0:37:32.640
<v Speaker 3>With a new role at the University of Canberra, which

0:37:32.640 --> 0:37:36.200
<v Speaker 3>will pay him one point one million dollars. After his

0:37:36.360 --> 0:37:39.879
<v Speaker 3>retirement from parliament, the pair will be spending even more

0:37:39.960 --> 0:37:41.520
<v Speaker 3>time in the capitol.

0:37:42.160 --> 0:37:48.240
<v Speaker 2>Why we're supposed to care for high price, We're supposed

0:37:48.280 --> 0:37:48.759
<v Speaker 2>to care?

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<v Speaker 5>I think it's I mean, he's a major states and

0:37:52.160 --> 0:37:56.479
<v Speaker 5>he's a major Australian political figure, the dog. He's leader

0:37:56.520 --> 0:37:58.919
<v Speaker 5>of the he's leader of the biggest party in the country.

0:37:58.640 --> 0:38:00.680
<v Speaker 1>For and managed to lose unlosable.

0:38:01.000 --> 0:38:04.360
<v Speaker 3>I know, but he was so unlikable anyone could have

0:38:04.440 --> 0:38:04.839
<v Speaker 3>beat him.

0:38:04.880 --> 0:38:06.759
<v Speaker 4>That's smarting the dimples.

0:38:06.840 --> 0:38:09.160
<v Speaker 3>I still remember that debate where I was just like,

0:38:09.560 --> 0:38:12.400
<v Speaker 3>you just lost every vote in this country, even the

0:38:12.480 --> 0:38:15.680
<v Speaker 3>hardcore labor voters, because he's just so smug all the time,

0:38:16.160 --> 0:38:17.560
<v Speaker 3>with nothing to be smug about.

0:38:17.600 --> 0:38:19.000
<v Speaker 4>It's okay to be smug for me.

0:38:19.120 --> 0:38:21.600
<v Speaker 1>Usually got for me. It was the jogging with the

0:38:21.760 --> 0:38:23.240
<v Speaker 1>demand boobs that kept.

0:38:25.000 --> 0:38:25.239
<v Speaker 3>Okay.

0:38:25.920 --> 0:38:28.840
<v Speaker 4>Guys issues.

0:38:29.239 --> 0:38:31.120
<v Speaker 5>I had my issues with Short for a while as well,

0:38:31.239 --> 0:38:34.160
<v Speaker 5>over the various leadership change challenges and some other stuff.

0:38:34.239 --> 0:38:37.040
<v Speaker 5>But you know, again, I think he's it doesn't make

0:38:37.040 --> 0:38:38.600
<v Speaker 5>its own great work with the nd I s. The

0:38:38.680 --> 0:38:39.279
<v Speaker 5>funniest thing.

0:38:39.239 --> 0:38:42.080
<v Speaker 1>About this Thuy is quotable, quotes.

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<v Speaker 4>Fantastic is he has made it finally laid the bones.

0:38:47.280 --> 0:38:49.840
<v Speaker 5>At least for it actually to be workable and actually

0:38:50.200 --> 0:38:54.200
<v Speaker 5>financially sustainable. All the writing it's it's very difficult thing

0:38:54.239 --> 0:38:55.879
<v Speaker 5>to do. But he's cut down on the rotting. He's

0:38:55.920 --> 0:38:58.839
<v Speaker 5>cut down on the kind of ridiculous sort of large

0:38:58.960 --> 0:38:59.840
<v Speaker 5>s that was more.

0:39:00.200 --> 0:39:05.280
<v Speaker 3>Ships and like exactly crystals exactly.

0:39:05.280 --> 0:39:07.319
<v Speaker 4>And if there's no sex workers on cruise ships, then

0:39:07.320 --> 0:39:08.080
<v Speaker 4>why would you want.

0:39:07.920 --> 0:39:10.280
<v Speaker 1>To say, yeah, well that's what the Pineapples episode.

0:39:10.480 --> 0:39:12.360
<v Speaker 5>But what is very funny is that there's a saying

0:39:12.440 --> 0:39:15.080
<v Speaker 5>that in politics, if you want loyalty by a.

0:39:15.160 --> 0:39:18.120
<v Speaker 4>Dog, got it.

0:39:18.560 --> 0:39:21.160
<v Speaker 2>And Bill Bill Shorten would know about a lot about loyalty,

0:39:21.200 --> 0:39:25.759
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't he. Well he did, But I just is this

0:39:25.920 --> 0:39:29.239
<v Speaker 2>not the most Canberra story ever? Like so that the

0:39:29.360 --> 0:39:33.120
<v Speaker 2>dude who could have been Prime Minister leaves Parliament and

0:39:33.280 --> 0:39:35.440
<v Speaker 2>the front of the Canberra Times is he got a

0:39:35.560 --> 0:39:37.320
<v Speaker 2>dog after he lost in twenty nineteen.

0:39:37.560 --> 0:39:39.239
<v Speaker 4>You know, I don't know if he've been a camera much.

0:39:39.280 --> 0:39:40.080
<v Speaker 4>There's not a lot else going.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, to the greatest newspaper in the world from the

0:39:44.400 --> 0:39:47.640
<v Speaker 5>greatest city in the world, the Daily Telegraph, and this

0:39:47.960 --> 0:39:51.759
<v Speaker 5>yarn is absolutely spectacular. There's a little comment piece by

0:39:51.880 --> 0:39:54.800
<v Speaker 5>very handsome journo in the paper to go with it.

0:39:56.080 --> 0:39:59.640
<v Speaker 4>We would not believe this. We're too dense, is the

0:39:59.680 --> 0:40:00.520
<v Speaker 4>class the headlight.

0:40:00.640 --> 0:40:03.319
<v Speaker 5>Mossman locals say they have no room for new home,

0:40:03.880 --> 0:40:06.400
<v Speaker 5>no room for you, the well heeled suburb of Mossman.

0:40:06.440 --> 0:40:08.120
<v Speaker 5>Don't allow when the Telly gets involved a bit of

0:40:08.160 --> 0:40:08.680
<v Speaker 5>class war.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to get complaints because you're not saying Mosman.

0:40:11.960 --> 0:40:14.759
<v Speaker 5>Musman has been accused of not pulling its weight amid

0:40:14.840 --> 0:40:20.160
<v Speaker 5>their state's housing crisis, delivering just sixteen new homes out

0:40:20.160 --> 0:40:21.799
<v Speaker 5>of a proposed yearly.

0:40:21.680 --> 0:40:25.520
<v Speaker 4>Target of one hundred hundred target.

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<v Speaker 5>So to put this in perspective, right, black Town, which

0:40:28.680 --> 0:40:31.200
<v Speaker 5>is basically the heart of greater western Sydney.

0:40:31.200 --> 0:40:33.120
<v Speaker 4>I think it's the biggest LGA. It's got about two

0:40:33.160 --> 0:40:35.360
<v Speaker 4>hundred fifty three hundred thousand residents in it.

0:40:35.840 --> 0:40:40.720
<v Speaker 5>They had a target of four thousand, three hundred new homes.

0:40:41.360 --> 0:40:42.560
<v Speaker 4>They exceeded it.

0:40:42.920 --> 0:40:47.000
<v Speaker 5>They built more Mossman had a target of just one

0:40:47.120 --> 0:40:50.319
<v Speaker 5>hundred and built just sixteen.

0:40:51.000 --> 0:40:54.960
<v Speaker 4>They are shameless, they are well, this is the thing.

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<v Speaker 5>And as I pointed out in my think, these are

0:40:57.400 --> 0:41:00.719
<v Speaker 5>people who have four times more likely to go to

0:41:00.800 --> 0:41:02.560
<v Speaker 5>private schools and the rest of the New South Wales

0:41:02.640 --> 0:41:06.520
<v Speaker 5>population and twice is likely to have a university degree

0:41:06.719 --> 0:41:10.399
<v Speaker 5>or higher. And so they're obviously not two days. They're

0:41:10.400 --> 0:41:13.080
<v Speaker 5>obviously smart enough to know there's a housing crisis going on.

0:41:13.520 --> 0:41:14.640
<v Speaker 4>They just don't give a raad.

0:41:14.960 --> 0:41:17.480
<v Speaker 3>But the irony of very is, can we get that

0:41:17.600 --> 0:41:20.920
<v Speaker 3>picture back up again. He's standing in his own home,

0:41:21.200 --> 0:41:27.160
<v Speaker 3>obviously with ocean front views saying where full He literally says,

0:41:27.560 --> 0:41:33.080
<v Speaker 3>forcing Mosman to build more homes quote just stinks end quote.

0:41:33.400 --> 0:41:37.600
<v Speaker 3>So props to him, actually, because this is a mayor

0:41:37.960 --> 0:41:43.000
<v Speaker 3>who actually is representing his constituency, because anyone who lives

0:41:43.040 --> 0:41:45.760
<v Speaker 3>in Mossman knows the whole point of living in Mossman

0:41:46.200 --> 0:41:50.040
<v Speaker 3>is to keep the unwashed out, the great unwashed out.

0:41:50.120 --> 0:41:53.840
<v Speaker 3>The whole point of living in this hallowed suburb is

0:41:53.920 --> 0:41:56.480
<v Speaker 3>that you're all just as rich as each other, and

0:41:56.560 --> 0:41:58.799
<v Speaker 3>you're all that close to the beach, and you're all

0:41:58.960 --> 0:42:00.759
<v Speaker 3>living it up and beautiful.

0:42:01.560 --> 0:42:05.520
<v Speaker 5>The same local government area where residents complained about a

0:42:05.600 --> 0:42:08.279
<v Speaker 5>bowls club because there was a trivia night and a

0:42:08.400 --> 0:42:13.560
<v Speaker 5>kid's jumping castle. Another resident complained during COVID lockdowns about

0:42:13.680 --> 0:42:17.960
<v Speaker 5>their neighbor allowing their kids into the backyard before nine am.

0:42:20.120 --> 0:42:21.239
<v Speaker 4>Too much noise, our play.

0:42:21.719 --> 0:42:26.760
<v Speaker 5>And also the same suburb which complained about it's only

0:42:26.920 --> 0:42:31.360
<v Speaker 5>the only one in the entire The entire suburb complained

0:42:31.600 --> 0:42:34.640
<v Speaker 5>about a COVID testing site.

0:42:36.239 --> 0:42:38.239
<v Speaker 4>And the council shut it down.

0:42:38.440 --> 0:42:42.520
<v Speaker 2>All complains, all complaints about this moment addressed to the

0:42:42.600 --> 0:42:45.279
<v Speaker 2>late debate care of Joe Hildebrand, that.

0:42:45.360 --> 0:42:47.000
<v Speaker 4>Meryl candidate, it's got himself.

0:42:48.280 --> 0:42:49.960
<v Speaker 1>Exactly correct.

0:42:50.040 --> 0:42:50.320
<v Speaker 4>Correct.

0:42:50.400 --> 0:42:52.920
<v Speaker 2>Let's go to the Australian tomorrow where it says, what

0:42:53.120 --> 0:42:57.280
<v Speaker 2>a surprise, eat less red meat? Climate advice The government

0:42:57.400 --> 0:43:01.719
<v Speaker 2>agency advising Anthony Albanezi on climate change is suggested Australians

0:43:01.760 --> 0:43:04.560
<v Speaker 2>could eat less red meat to help produce greenhouse gas

0:43:04.600 --> 0:43:07.640
<v Speaker 2>emissions amid revelations it may not give the Prime Minister

0:43:07.719 --> 0:43:11.440
<v Speaker 2>crucial advice on a twenty thirty five target until after

0:43:11.880 --> 0:43:15.960
<v Speaker 2>the election. And they always come back to this, got

0:43:16.040 --> 0:43:18.080
<v Speaker 2>to eat less red meat, Gotta eat less red meat,

0:43:18.120 --> 0:43:18.680
<v Speaker 2>got add.

0:43:18.560 --> 0:43:21.319
<v Speaker 1>Insects eat zibugs zibugs.

0:43:20.760 --> 0:43:23.640
<v Speaker 2>As they say at the World Economic Forum class schwab.

0:43:23.800 --> 0:43:28.239
<v Speaker 2>And seriously, we've already know that they're talking about or

0:43:28.360 --> 0:43:34.640
<v Speaker 2>going to rewrite the nutritional food pyramid thing to recommend

0:43:34.680 --> 0:43:36.880
<v Speaker 2>not what is the most nutritious food, but what is

0:43:36.920 --> 0:43:39.399
<v Speaker 2>supposedly the best for the planet. So even if red

0:43:39.440 --> 0:43:41.040
<v Speaker 2>meat is better for you, they're going to tell you

0:43:41.080 --> 0:43:43.120
<v Speaker 2>to eat other stuff to say the planet. Well, what's

0:43:43.200 --> 0:43:45.120
<v Speaker 2>the point If I can't have my stake, I don't

0:43:45.160 --> 0:43:46.120
<v Speaker 2>want to be on the planet.

0:43:46.360 --> 0:43:50.000
<v Speaker 3>Well, news flash, the food pyramid was never about nutrition anyway.

0:43:50.080 --> 0:43:52.839
<v Speaker 3>Remember when all the grains were at the top shore

0:43:53.400 --> 0:43:56.880
<v Speaker 3>that is marvelous if you want obese people, some of

0:43:56.960 --> 0:44:00.440
<v Speaker 3>which can't even process said grains, and they're all like, oh,

0:44:00.560 --> 0:44:03.640
<v Speaker 3>five portions a day. Turned out to be a backdoor

0:44:03.880 --> 0:44:07.439
<v Speaker 3>deal done with a certain industry at a certain time.

0:44:07.560 --> 0:44:09.359
<v Speaker 1>Remember when eggs were like, oh.

0:44:09.320 --> 0:44:12.040
<v Speaker 3>These are terrible cholesterol. Nobody touched them.

0:44:12.120 --> 0:44:13.480
<v Speaker 1>Then eggs were back on top.

0:44:13.600 --> 0:44:17.800
<v Speaker 3>Everyone eat eggs, great source of protein. These guys change

0:44:17.840 --> 0:44:21.360
<v Speaker 3>their minds according to whatever the political whimsy of the

0:44:21.480 --> 0:44:21.840
<v Speaker 3>day is.

0:44:22.239 --> 0:44:23.280
<v Speaker 1>And here's more.

0:44:23.280 --> 0:44:23.719
<v Speaker 4>Proof of it.

0:44:23.840 --> 0:44:26.640
<v Speaker 3>It's happening in our time right arounder our noses. But

0:44:26.719 --> 0:44:29.160
<v Speaker 3>this time they're not even pretending to say red meat's

0:44:29.200 --> 0:44:31.480
<v Speaker 3>bad for you. It's just bad for the planet.

0:44:31.600 --> 0:44:32.840
<v Speaker 1>That's right. Well, got to say this.

0:44:33.000 --> 0:44:35.719
<v Speaker 5>And remember when they said drinking sixteen standard drinks every

0:44:35.760 --> 0:44:37.080
<v Speaker 5>single night was bad for you.

0:44:38.680 --> 0:44:40.680
<v Speaker 2>Now I don't remember that, probably because I was too

0:44:40.760 --> 0:44:43.520
<v Speaker 2>drunk to remember them saying it. Anyway, one thing that

0:44:43.680 --> 0:44:46.399
<v Speaker 2>is good for you, because I always maintained you don't

0:44:46.480 --> 0:44:49.440
<v Speaker 2>see a fat French person, but they do not exist.

0:44:49.760 --> 0:44:53.200
<v Speaker 1>All they sizes and all that. It is really rich food.

0:44:53.280 --> 0:44:53.759
<v Speaker 1>They eat lot.

0:44:53.840 --> 0:44:55.360
<v Speaker 4>You're lucky you don't some meat French.

0:44:55.840 --> 0:44:57.680
<v Speaker 2>I know, I know you hate the free you hate,

0:44:59.200 --> 0:45:02.359
<v Speaker 2>but they they eat lots of red meat. They eat

0:45:02.400 --> 0:45:05.880
<v Speaker 2>lots of carbs, they eat lots of fatty stuff like

0:45:06.400 --> 0:45:09.000
<v Speaker 2>like bushes, and they eat lots of dairies.

0:45:08.680 --> 0:45:10.920
<v Speaker 4>And lots of um, lots of humble pie.

0:45:11.239 --> 0:45:12.600
<v Speaker 3>A lot of croissants.

0:45:13.080 --> 0:45:14.000
<v Speaker 1>Jersey of dairy.

0:45:14.120 --> 0:45:16.719
<v Speaker 3>At the front page of The Murk, we have a

0:45:16.840 --> 0:45:20.800
<v Speaker 3>very sad story like King Island cream and cheese producer

0:45:21.400 --> 0:45:25.360
<v Speaker 3>Clothses Dairies, Demise reads the splash. The shock announcement that

0:45:25.480 --> 0:45:28.799
<v Speaker 3>the iconic King Island Dairy, which has operated for more

0:45:28.880 --> 0:45:32.560
<v Speaker 3>than a Century will close next year. Has devastated the

0:45:32.640 --> 0:45:36.560
<v Speaker 3>local community, which is fighting to keep it open. The

0:45:36.600 --> 0:45:41.479
<v Speaker 3>announcement was made today that they are basically going under

0:45:42.200 --> 0:45:46.040
<v Speaker 3>its sad that they make. They had your poles and

0:45:46.120 --> 0:45:47.399
<v Speaker 3>lillies and buy up Beg.

0:45:47.680 --> 0:45:48.600
<v Speaker 1>Maybe we can still.

0:45:48.480 --> 0:45:49.399
<v Speaker 4>Say I make the best.

0:45:49.719 --> 0:45:52.360
<v Speaker 5>Ironically, given that their French cheese has bit, Australians do

0:45:52.400 --> 0:45:56.320
<v Speaker 5>it better. They makes the best Camembert and cheese and cheese.

0:45:56.680 --> 0:45:59.239
<v Speaker 1>I just you know, and I don't know.

0:45:59.280 --> 0:46:01.680
<v Speaker 2>Exactly why these shutting down, but you have to wonder

0:46:01.719 --> 0:46:04.640
<v Speaker 2>whether it's a sad statement about where we're at now,

0:46:04.680 --> 0:46:06.160
<v Speaker 2>where everyone's.

0:46:05.680 --> 0:46:09.600
<v Speaker 1>Gluten free, dairy free. You know, everyone drinks alm and milk.

0:46:09.680 --> 0:46:11.400
<v Speaker 2>If you can find me the teat on an arm

0:46:11.480 --> 0:46:13.560
<v Speaker 2>and I'll believe it's arm and milk. The people are

0:46:13.600 --> 0:46:18.280
<v Speaker 2>turning away from dairy. Now go out and buy some cheese, please,

0:46:18.360 --> 0:46:20.839
<v Speaker 2>I promise you it's good for you. After the break,

0:46:21.320 --> 0:46:25.520
<v Speaker 2>Vladimir Putin has thrown his weight behind one presidential candidate.

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<v Speaker 1>This news has just come down. We'll tell you who

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<v Speaker 1>it is soon, all right. If all the people in

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<v Speaker 1>the world, you would not want to be I reckon.

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<v Speaker 1>This navy commander is one of them.

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<v Speaker 4>Jerm This is absolutely amazing. I just caught up with this.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm usually up to speed with my military news, being

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<v Speaker 5>a soldier of fortune myself.

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<v Speaker 4>Just to kind of you know, like as you can see,

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<v Speaker 4>outdoorsy kind.

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<v Speaker 5>Of military, highly disciplined type. But this is the story

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<v Speaker 5>of a navy warship commander. A commander of the naval

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<v Speaker 5>warship the USS John McCain. You might be familiar with

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<v Speaker 5>that name, Liz, which is currently I believe in he

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<v Speaker 5>has been relieved of his duty, which is a polite

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<v Speaker 5>way of saying being shown. The door dropped, the axe

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<v Speaker 5>flushed down the toilet after a post that he posted

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<v Speaker 5>on social media. And I don't know if we can

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<v Speaker 5>get a close up of this post.

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<v Speaker 4>What's wrong with this picture?

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<v Speaker 3>Hmmm hm.

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<v Speaker 2>He's actually really obvious, like he actually put that scope

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<v Speaker 2>on himself.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know how he did it. I wouldn't have

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<v Speaker 5>thought it was able to go in both ways. But

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<v Speaker 5>basically he is lining up his firing site on himself.

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<v Speaker 5>He's got the scope on backwards and he's posted this

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<v Speaker 5>on social media. This has viral. The Navy got fully

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<v Speaker 5>trilled and when you're you know, the world's biggest navy

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<v Speaker 5>is getting trolled.

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<v Speaker 4>That can be quite embarrassing.

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<v Speaker 5>He has now been relieved of his duty about four

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<v Speaker 5>months after the incident, and the Navy said that it

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<v Speaker 5>was due to a loss of confidence in his ability

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<v Speaker 5>to command the guide miss destroyer.

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<v Speaker 4>I wonder why.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder why the bloke can't even operate.

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<v Speaker 4>Seriously, you just.

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<v Speaker 1>Jijinping.

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<v Speaker 2>You have nothing to worry about now, I told you before.

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<v Speaker 2>Breaking news Vladimir Putin has endorsed a presidential candidate for November.

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<v Speaker 1>Who do you think it is? Of course, it's Kamala Harris.

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<v Speaker 2>Putin was speaking at an event today where he said

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<v Speaker 2>that Joe Biden, who was previously his pick for president,

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<v Speaker 2>had backed Kamala Harris, and so he will be doing

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<v Speaker 2>the same, he said, we will do the same. We

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<v Speaker 2>will support her. His reason for doing so.

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<v Speaker 1>He says, is that she laughs so expressively and infectiously.

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<v Speaker 2>That it means that everything is fine with her, and

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<v Speaker 2>so it gets the impression because she seems to be

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<v Speaker 2>so lovely, that maybe she'll refrain from putting any.

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<v Speaker 1>Further sanctions on Russia.

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<v Speaker 2>He then went on to say that Trump had put

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<v Speaker 2>more sanctions on Russia than any other US president, and

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<v Speaker 2>that he thought Trump was erratic and he couldn't predict

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<v Speaker 2>what he wanted to do.

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<v Speaker 1>So so Kamala bring it up.

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<v Speaker 3>He's clearly picking the weakest. He's clearly picking the weakest.

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<v Speaker 3>Before that, he was backing Biden because he said he

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<v Speaker 3>was a more predictable politician. Of course, Russia is just

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<v Speaker 3>going to choose whoever gives them the smallest pain in

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<v Speaker 3>the neck, which would be Kamala.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't you give everyone else a pain in the neck.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it from us today, Thank you so much for

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<v Speaker 1>joining us this week. Up next to the Reader Padding Show,