WEBVTT - Backflip City 0:00:08.240 --> 0:00:10.800 Welcome to the Daily Telegraph and I Roll podcast. I'm 0:00:10.840 --> 0:00:12.840 Michael carry Ons and with me is David Riquel and 0:00:12.880 --> 0:00:15.920 Brent Reid. And how are we fellas? Look, before we 0:00:15.960 --> 0:00:17.639 get into the footy stuff, we're gonna have some big 0:00:17.720 --> 0:00:21.079 news around dinner at the end of the At the 0:00:21.120 --> 0:00:22.800 end of the show featuring Brent. 0:00:22.760 --> 0:00:29.160 Reid, I am wait, how are we You're going well? 0:00:29.200 --> 0:00:29.640 Going well? 0:00:29.680 --> 0:00:31.880 I've just rolled the slaves up. I still like I'm 0:00:31.880 --> 0:00:32.480 in the mood today. 0:00:32.520 --> 0:00:34.800 Boys pressure. 0:00:36.000 --> 0:00:40.320 Heading towards big game of a big round of footy, 0:00:40.360 --> 0:00:41.120 but also. 0:00:40.920 --> 0:00:42.040 To Origin three. 0:00:42.400 --> 0:00:45.360 Origin three. It's a bit weird when we discuss Origin 0:00:45.400 --> 0:00:48.120 at the moment because no dramas in your South Wales. 0:00:48.159 --> 0:00:50.000 All the dramas with you blex, no. 0:00:49.800 --> 0:00:52.360 No drama were Queenslanders. 0:00:52.440 --> 0:00:57.640 Queens drama drama A couple of change. We've got former 0:00:57.640 --> 0:00:59.080 players callings for the accident. 0:00:59.080 --> 0:01:03.240 So when there's changes is what's the Queensland is? What 0:01:03.280 --> 0:01:03.800 does that mean? 0:01:05.400 --> 0:01:08.319 I had no idea what he was talking about. Idea, 0:01:08.760 --> 0:01:12.479 But we are Queensland. It is true. Maxwell Law. 0:01:14.200 --> 0:01:16.200 Be able to translate Queensland speak for us. 0:01:16.280 --> 0:01:18.520 Yeah, it's just it's a rallying call for the state 0:01:18.560 --> 0:01:20.160 but I just trying to get the state behind the 0:01:20.200 --> 0:01:21.960 team rather than turn on them. 0:01:22.000 --> 0:01:26.320 Cool. But the news this week, Dave you sort of 0:01:26.400 --> 0:01:31.440 kickstarted disregarding Zach Lomax. What's the layer of the land there? 0:01:32.760 --> 0:01:36.119 Look, I wrote a column Mickey and Redman about how 0:01:36.160 --> 0:01:37.839 I just didn't really understand. 0:01:39.240 --> 0:01:42.920 The sense of Zach going to Paramata, given how much 0:01:42.920 --> 0:01:44.920 has changed since he signed. 0:01:46.040 --> 0:01:49.480 With the Eels, requested the release from Saints, takes a 0:01:49.520 --> 0:01:53.320 pay cut, takes less money, wants to go play center, 0:01:54.440 --> 0:01:58.480 moves to the wing, becomes the game's best winger at 0:01:58.480 --> 0:02:03.160 this point in time, signs under Brad Arthur, Brad Arthur's 0:02:03.200 --> 0:02:05.920 no longer there, and there's all these little factors, and 0:02:05.960 --> 0:02:10.840 I thought it was just just doesn't make one hundred 0:02:10.840 --> 0:02:14.160 percent sense to me, and therefore wrote that column. 0:02:15.080 --> 0:02:15.680 It's led to. 0:02:17.280 --> 0:02:21.079 Look, my understanding is if Zach had his time over again, 0:02:22.600 --> 0:02:25.120 it probably would have taken his time. He probably wouldn't 0:02:25.120 --> 0:02:29.200 have rushed into the decision that he's made. Does that 0:02:29.280 --> 0:02:31.640 mean he is now not going to go to a PARAMOUNTA. 0:02:31.720 --> 0:02:33.800 No, it doesn't me. 0:02:34.000 --> 0:02:37.600 Personally, I think it would be extremely difficult for Zack 0:02:37.680 --> 0:02:38.880 to get out of this contract. 0:02:38.960 --> 0:02:39.720 Almost impossible. 0:02:39.919 --> 0:02:46.160 There's no clauses, there's no real parameters of an emotional 0:02:46.200 --> 0:02:47.680 aspect to get out of it. 0:02:49.040 --> 0:02:50.800 The only way it could happen day is if the 0:02:50.840 --> 0:02:55.000 new coach goes, you're not for me. Yeah, and with 0:02:55.000 --> 0:02:56.959 the form that is in, you'd find that very very 0:02:57.000 --> 0:03:01.280 difficult to happen, right, But that would be the only way. 0:03:01.280 --> 0:03:04.040 The coach comes in and goes, look, okay, I could 0:03:04.120 --> 0:03:05.880 do without for whatever reason. 0:03:06.000 --> 0:03:07.919 Yeah, he could do with the new coach. The new 0:03:07.960 --> 0:03:11.480 coach might have a tie to another player. Yeah, that 0:03:11.560 --> 0:03:14.680 he goes, well, actually, I can get such and such 0:03:14.760 --> 0:03:17.960 in at three hundred and fifty thousand and just let 0:03:18.080 --> 0:03:18.560 Zack stay it. 0:03:18.600 --> 0:03:22.240 Say that's the only way. But I think Zack ends 0:03:22.280 --> 0:03:24.440 up for Paramatta next year. Yeah, look, my gup, phel 0:03:24.520 --> 0:03:24.880 is that too? 0:03:24.919 --> 0:03:25.239 Also? 0:03:25.680 --> 0:03:27.640 That doesn't Again, I'm not going to run away from 0:03:27.680 --> 0:03:31.840 the fact. Yeah, I'm a firm believer that Zach has 0:03:32.320 --> 0:03:34.760 a sense of cold feet about the situation because of 0:03:34.840 --> 0:03:35.840 everything that's changed. 0:03:36.000 --> 0:03:38.160 It's just going to be the gets to Paramatta and 0:03:38.200 --> 0:03:42.680 they struggle. Is he then unhappy and agitates again Nick 0:03:43.960 --> 0:03:46.560 during next year to get out and go back or 0:03:46.840 --> 0:03:51.360 somewhere else because we've seen when he's unhappy, he is unsettled, 0:03:51.520 --> 0:03:53.840 and that's why this change came about. He was unhappy 0:03:53.840 --> 0:03:56.120 playing on the wing and he wanted to change the scene. 0:03:56.120 --> 0:03:57.320 He wanted to go to a club that can win 0:03:57.400 --> 0:03:59.800 a camp. Well, at the moment, when you look at 0:03:59.840 --> 0:04:02.280 the ad, the Dragons are closer winning the comm than 0:04:02.320 --> 0:04:04.400 Paramatter are. Now, I don't think they are. I think 0:04:04.480 --> 0:04:07.800 Paramatters that's the ladder. It will be in a better 0:04:07.800 --> 0:04:10.280 position at the start of next year with Zach Lomax 0:04:10.280 --> 0:04:12.520 and their ranks. But if it doesn't go well, if 0:04:12.560 --> 0:04:14.680 it starts poorly, if the new coach can't get him 0:04:14.720 --> 0:04:18.360 on side, is he then unsettled and doesn't become an 0:04:18.400 --> 0:04:21.279 issue all through next year, which has the potential to 0:04:21.279 --> 0:04:21.760 become with. 0:04:21.760 --> 0:04:24.560 That well, we have seen him have issues with previous 0:04:24.600 --> 0:04:26.279 coaches in the past, right. 0:04:26.560 --> 0:04:28.680 I think who ever gets a job, well, I know 0:04:28.839 --> 0:04:31.600 I've spoken at least one of the coaches, and his 0:04:31.640 --> 0:04:33.480 first order of business is to sit down with that 0:04:33.640 --> 0:04:37.440 Lomax and resolve that situation and make sure he wraps 0:04:37.480 --> 0:04:40.680 around an arm around him and says, mate, I want 0:04:40.720 --> 0:04:43.280 you here. You're a key plank of me rebuilding this 0:04:43.360 --> 0:04:45.839 foota club, so that whoever gets the job, we should 0:04:45.920 --> 0:04:48.760 know soon enough. That should be their first order of business. 0:04:48.839 --> 0:04:51.920 Yeah, I suppose to that, though, read man, he's like, 0:04:52.120 --> 0:04:55.200 where does where does Zach Lomax now still want to play? 0:04:55.640 --> 0:04:57.080 Does he want to play at center? 0:04:57.120 --> 0:04:58.840 Still? It's the other issue they got to resolve with it. 0:04:59.000 --> 0:05:01.720 And and does he now actually still. 0:05:01.520 --> 0:05:04.240 Talking about what position he wants to play? Unbelievable. He 0:05:04.279 --> 0:05:06.760 went there to play center to power. He's going to 0:05:06.760 --> 0:05:08.880 power to play center, wasn't he? Yeah? And I know 0:05:08.920 --> 0:05:12.040 he's played great in the wing, but but that, but yeah, 0:05:12.080 --> 0:05:12.960 he's also very good. 0:05:13.000 --> 0:05:16.680 No, no, no, no, your is he well he's not down 0:05:16.760 --> 0:05:17.320 better at wing? 0:05:17.440 --> 0:05:21.279 He's no, No, he's nowhere near replicated that. He's performance 0:05:21.320 --> 0:05:24.080 and influence on a game like he has this year 0:05:24.120 --> 0:05:26.160 on the wing. It's not even he's a. 0:05:26.200 --> 0:05:27.600 Solid some good years. 0:05:27.960 --> 0:05:31.200 He hasn't he's been a solid center. He has not. 0:05:31.480 --> 0:05:37.120 He has not lived solid center years that solid and 0:05:37.120 --> 0:05:37.640 fifty zers. 0:05:37.920 --> 0:05:41.039 Now he's now he's one of the most influential players 0:05:41.080 --> 0:05:44.159 in the competition. That's right. He's gone from solid to 0:05:44.240 --> 0:05:46.480 one of them. He was playing reserve very last year, right, 0:05:46.680 --> 0:05:48.479 And yeah. 0:05:48.480 --> 0:05:52.200 He was he's knocked on the door previously. 0:05:51.920 --> 0:05:54.960 Really, I don't think you don't think he's ever been 0:05:54.960 --> 0:05:57.279 in serious contention. I think he's always been ear marked 0:05:57.480 --> 0:06:01.120 as a potential chosen. Yeah right, But I don't think 0:06:01.120 --> 0:06:02.760 he was ever seriously going to play for New South 0:06:02.800 --> 0:06:05.520 Wales over the last couple of years, and his forming 0:06:05.560 --> 0:06:09.479 this year is irresistible, an example of an example of 0:06:09.880 --> 0:06:10.200 the day. 0:06:10.320 --> 0:06:11.160 An example of. 0:06:11.120 --> 0:06:13.640 That is when we did the story at the start 0:06:13.680 --> 0:06:16.520 of the year that Madge had phone Zach and said 0:06:16.600 --> 0:06:17.320 keep your form up. 0:06:17.440 --> 0:06:20.119 Everyone lost their mind. 0:06:20.920 --> 0:06:24.680 I think I did. Yeh suggested please pick him. Yeah 0:06:24.720 --> 0:06:27.640 you think doubt Jack. 0:06:27.880 --> 0:06:30.240 I think I think he's just proven himself to be. 0:06:30.320 --> 0:06:33.680 But to your point, you said earlier that he's going 0:06:33.720 --> 0:06:36.080 to Paramouna to play center. He's going to That's why 0:06:36.080 --> 0:06:38.360 he signed to play with Paramatta because that was under 0:06:38.360 --> 0:06:38.880 Brad Arthur. 0:06:39.040 --> 0:06:42.279 Well may end up there on the wing anyway. 0:06:42.720 --> 0:06:44.680 You see a winger now, I. 0:06:44.640 --> 0:06:47.719 Would imagine maybe Guo moves in the centers next year potentially. 0:06:48.680 --> 0:06:50.240 I just don't know how you can't play him. 0:06:50.360 --> 0:06:54.279 And if they keep him the complainment fullback, it works 0:06:54.400 --> 0:06:56.680 play on the wing and. 0:06:56.440 --> 0:06:58.320 You know what, you know what the next coach needs 0:06:58.360 --> 0:07:00.880 to do. He needs to be upfront and say, Zach, 0:07:01.680 --> 0:07:04.200 you've brained it on the wing. You're coming as a winger, 0:07:04.240 --> 0:07:06.080 so get your head around it. And if you don't 0:07:06.200 --> 0:07:09.440 like that, then that's when there'll be some agitation. 0:07:09.080 --> 0:07:11.120 And Zach will see you after you play for Australia 0:07:11.160 --> 0:07:14.320 on the wing October. You know what I mean? 0:07:14.520 --> 0:07:18.560 Like it's have you actually seen a more influential wing? 0:07:18.960 --> 0:07:21.440 That's what I said the other way. I can't remember, no, no, 0:07:21.480 --> 0:07:24.200 I can't remember a guy that's on the wing that 0:07:24.280 --> 0:07:26.320 has been so influential when his team's. 0:07:26.080 --> 0:07:28.240 Results was pretty influent. 0:07:29.400 --> 0:07:32.720 We've seen better wingers Wendell Saylor, they're not, but they 0:07:32.720 --> 0:07:34.400 had such star players around them, right. 0:07:34.560 --> 0:07:35.760 They still change games. 0:07:35.800 --> 0:07:38.560 But I think, like the Dragons, a lot of their 0:07:38.600 --> 0:07:40.760 wins coming off the back of Saklomax. He is that 0:07:40.840 --> 0:07:43.480 influential in that team's performance at the moment. I can't 0:07:43.480 --> 0:07:46.640 remember a winger because you mentioned for Lao and Wendell 0:07:46.680 --> 0:07:49.520 they had stars across that side, right, so that. 0:07:49.840 --> 0:07:54.800 This bloke can kick and chase his own kicks Israel. 0:07:55.240 --> 0:08:00.000 Israel didn't do that. 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:02.640 Climates can put a bomb up and and and and 0:08:02.720 --> 0:08:10.080 run eightys and collect it before. It's not that I 0:08:10.160 --> 0:08:12.960 don't start me on that, but that is what he's got. 0:08:13.000 --> 0:08:17.000 One of the best kicks, you know. Full credit to 0:08:17.040 --> 0:08:20.240 him to be able to, you know, brush aside all 0:08:20.240 --> 0:08:22.600 the outside noise and put the performances that he's had 0:08:23.000 --> 0:08:25.160 this year. And if I'm any coach, I'm picking him 0:08:25.160 --> 0:08:27.200 on the he's a form winger. I'm picking him frustrater, 0:08:27.440 --> 0:08:30.360 pinning for paramatter. I'm not even thinking about playing him 0:08:30.360 --> 0:08:32.640 at center unless there's an injury. 0:08:33.040 --> 0:08:33.400 Okay. 0:08:34.040 --> 0:08:36.240 I've had a couple of couple of conversations with Saints 0:08:36.240 --> 0:08:39.719 about it too, and they're they're really staying distant from 0:08:39.760 --> 0:08:41.200 the whole discussion. 0:08:40.679 --> 0:08:43.360 Like they don't you think they really are? Dave, Yeah, 0:08:43.400 --> 0:08:45.160 I do. I don't think in the background someone's going, 0:08:45.280 --> 0:08:47.520 mate the good your stayed no. 0:08:47.360 --> 0:08:50.320 Because no, I don't. Okay, No, I don't. 0:08:50.360 --> 0:08:51.640 I think to your point. 0:08:51.480 --> 0:08:58.960 That make great different sure, yeah right, yeah, I'm talking 0:08:58.960 --> 0:08:59.720 about management. 0:09:01.120 --> 0:09:02.520 Can someone be chipping in? 0:09:03.559 --> 0:09:06.560 I think I think from Zach's point of view, he said, look, 0:09:06.559 --> 0:09:09.960 I'm not it's wait wait for the paramattic coach to 0:09:09.960 --> 0:09:12.840 be announced. So we're at all lands and then after 0:09:12.880 --> 0:09:15.240 the State of Origin series, we may hear some more. 0:09:15.559 --> 0:09:19.439 Interesting It's an interesting one. Speaking of interesting ones already, expansion. 0:09:20.559 --> 0:09:22.079 What's the latest on there? 0:09:23.679 --> 0:09:28.120 You about it? You're the w a man. Well, obviously 0:09:28.160 --> 0:09:31.440 they've now call for expressions of interest. So they've sent 0:09:31.440 --> 0:09:35.000 out a criteria to the consortiums that want to bid 0:09:35.000 --> 0:09:40.040 to join the nrlot about a month to respond to that, 0:09:40.320 --> 0:09:42.440 and then I'll take about a month after that to 0:09:42.440 --> 0:09:44.719 make a final call on who comes into the competition, 0:09:45.320 --> 0:09:48.000 how they expand. But I mean, I think we've written 0:09:48.040 --> 0:09:51.840 about it several times. Perth or obviously obviously looks like 0:09:51.880 --> 0:09:54.400 they'll be the first cab off the rank in partnership 0:09:54.400 --> 0:09:57.319 with the Bears. Looks like that's being resolved, Mick hasn't. 0:09:58.840 --> 0:10:01.600 It's getting closer. They had some good meetings last week. 0:10:01.840 --> 0:10:04.439 Because Perth we're against it, Mick, Well, have they come 0:10:04.480 --> 0:10:04.960 back around? 0:10:05.000 --> 0:10:07.880 Well, I think they've all been told if you guys, 0:10:07.920 --> 0:10:09.679 if your bid is going to be considered seriously by 0:10:09.679 --> 0:10:11.840 the NRL, you need to link with the Bears. And 0:10:11.880 --> 0:10:14.640 the Bears have tempered their expectations a little bit. They 0:10:14.679 --> 0:10:17.800 had a key meeting last week in Sydney, which has 0:10:18.040 --> 0:10:20.160 resolved some of the issues. The Bears put a proposal 0:10:20.200 --> 0:10:22.800 to the w A bid over the last couple of days. 0:10:22.840 --> 0:10:28.000 The wa bid considered it on Wednesday, and I dare 0:10:28.080 --> 0:10:31.280 say that at some point they will formalize a partnership. 0:10:31.280 --> 0:10:34.040 It's interesting the fact that all the big parties or 0:10:34.240 --> 0:10:36.360 the head honchos of the big parties have been gagged 0:10:36.400 --> 0:10:41.680 by the NRL. That's the NBA now, so to prevent 0:10:41.679 --> 0:10:42.920 them from talking to us. 0:10:42.960 --> 0:10:44.320 It sounds like the paramount of board. 0:10:44.520 --> 0:10:47.360 Well, so that's so it might go a little bit 0:10:47.400 --> 0:10:50.480 quiet on expansion. So there's another When do they have 0:10:50.520 --> 0:10:51.760 to get there by the end of this month? 0:10:51.800 --> 0:10:55.160 They have to have four weeks or five weeks. 0:10:54.559 --> 0:10:56.120 Loosely, by the end of this month, they have to 0:10:56.120 --> 0:10:58.160 have their proposal back to the NRL. The NRL will 0:10:58.400 --> 0:10:59.079 liberate for. 0:11:00.520 --> 0:11:03.600 Enter rolls, told the clubs the existing clubs they want 0:11:03.720 --> 0:11:05.240 when it was solved by the end of the season, 0:11:05.320 --> 0:11:07.800 so by Grand Final days, so i'd imagine September at 0:11:07.840 --> 0:11:11.280 some point we'll have an announcement on who was in 0:11:11.320 --> 0:11:15.720 and went, how they plan to expand the roadmap to 0:11:15.760 --> 0:11:18.440 twenty teams, and who those teams will be. The cover 0:11:18.520 --> 0:11:23.280 of the competition. Yeah, PNNG South Island, New Zealm. 0:11:23.559 --> 0:11:25.960 Twenty Yeah, well what that twenty one looks like? What 0:11:26.000 --> 0:11:28.520 that twenty side looks like? Twentieth side looks like? So sorry, 0:11:28.520 --> 0:11:28.920 I don't. 0:11:28.760 --> 0:11:31.319 Think we'll stop at twenty Wow. I think we'll keep 0:11:31.320 --> 0:11:34.360 going down the track, down the track. I think we'll 0:11:34.400 --> 0:11:40.000 get Yeah what I'm just twenty four, twenty two, twenty 0:11:40.040 --> 0:11:41.480 two eventually, Yeah. 0:11:41.679 --> 0:11:42.280 What year. 0:11:45.280 --> 0:11:46.480 In the game, I'll be long gone. 0:11:46.520 --> 0:11:48.680 I'll tell you what won't exist if that's the case. Well, 0:11:48.840 --> 0:11:49.839 rugby union. 0:11:50.840 --> 0:11:53.320 Well they're going serious, yeah. 0:11:52.800 --> 0:11:54.320 Because we're going to have to pill for talent. 0:11:54.400 --> 0:11:56.000 Well, there's a segway there, beautiful day. 0:11:56.200 --> 0:11:58.719 I'm so well down. I'm saying another ten years beyond that, 0:11:58.960 --> 0:12:00.000 I think we'll expand again. 0:12:00.640 --> 0:12:06.920 Well speak on rugby union talent. A few clubs a 0:12:06.960 --> 0:12:09.640 little bit dirty. I guess over what's transpired over the 0:12:09.720 --> 0:12:12.640 last couple of days with some rugby union talent joining? 0:12:13.120 --> 0:12:13.920 Can you say? 0:12:14.160 --> 0:12:16.360 I really? Can you say? 0:12:16.840 --> 0:12:20.679 What's happened the one need to mark? Yeah, the one 0:12:20.880 --> 0:12:23.839 need to need to done? Yeah? 0:12:23.960 --> 0:12:25.920 Ready, so we got it. Used to try and say 0:12:25.960 --> 0:12:26.720 that name because I was going to. 0:12:26.720 --> 0:12:31.840 Say more wang need to I was at the press 0:12:31.840 --> 0:12:34.280 comments yesterday when he spoke talk us to it readick. 0:12:35.480 --> 0:12:37.720 He was a bit deer in head lightish, but he 0:12:37.760 --> 0:12:40.800 handed him so quite well actually, given that. 0:12:40.920 --> 0:12:43.280 He was a bit deer in the head lightish, but 0:12:43.360 --> 0:12:44.160 he handled himself. 0:12:44.520 --> 0:12:46.800 Okay. You know, he looked a bit nervous on you know, 0:12:46.880 --> 0:12:50.080 because he had like fifteen journals hammering him about his 0:12:50.120 --> 0:12:51.520 switcher codes to rugby league. 0:12:51.640 --> 0:12:53.720 Usually get that in rugby. Are you saying, yeah, he wouldn't. 0:12:56.200 --> 0:12:59.120 But he's obviously going to the Olympics with the seventh 0:12:59.240 --> 0:13:01.480 team and then it'll come back and play rugby league 0:13:01.520 --> 0:13:03.800 for the Roosters. They're saying, you won't play, probably won't 0:13:03.800 --> 0:13:07.000 play a NURL this year. Mark's not ruling that out. 0:13:07.480 --> 0:13:10.240 I think he has aspirations potentially playing in the NRL, 0:13:11.120 --> 0:13:12.520 but he's got a bit of work to do because 0:13:12.520 --> 0:13:14.880 he hasn't played the game since he was a teenager, 0:13:14.960 --> 0:13:16.400 so it's not that easy. 0:13:16.480 --> 0:13:19.600 What about the the nerl's decision to allow him to 0:13:19.600 --> 0:13:21.280 play this year? Any issues? 0:13:24.760 --> 0:13:28.280 Yeah, little one. But there has been a precedent because 0:13:28.360 --> 0:13:31.240 Jared Haynes. When Jared Haynes came back to rugby league 0:13:31.280 --> 0:13:34.520 eight years ago after going to the NFL, and then 0:13:35.200 --> 0:13:37.480 he tried out with the Fijian right rugby sevens team. 0:13:38.080 --> 0:13:40.079 He started playing rugby league in August, so there was 0:13:40.120 --> 0:13:42.600 a precedent there, and the Roosters pointed that out as 0:13:42.640 --> 0:13:45.720 part of their submissions to the NRL to get market 0:13:45.960 --> 0:13:48.400 clearance to come back in August or July. So he's 0:13:48.440 --> 0:13:52.079 back in July. So I'd forgotten about that, to be 0:13:52.120 --> 0:13:54.640 honest with you. And when I heard that, I thought, well, 0:13:54.920 --> 0:13:57.280 there's a precedent there, and they've put some safeguards in 0:13:57.320 --> 0:14:01.800 to ensure that you can't just do this will and 0:14:01.840 --> 0:14:03.920 nearly you kind of players going from league to union, 0:14:04.040 --> 0:14:05.640 back to lead, back to year to have a multi 0:14:05.679 --> 0:14:10.240 ye deal, so you can't have played professional rugby league before, 0:14:11.640 --> 0:14:14.640 and you can't. He can't. Players can't play, he can't 0:14:14.679 --> 0:14:16.440 play sevens during the life of this deal. So he 0:14:16.480 --> 0:14:18.840 can't go off at some point where he's under contract 0:14:18.840 --> 0:14:22.200 of the Roosters and play rugby, for example, go to 0:14:22.240 --> 0:14:24.640 Japan and an off season come back. You can't do. 0:14:24.800 --> 0:14:27.200 That's an agree. He's agreed to that. So there's been 0:14:27.200 --> 0:14:29.560 no precedent set by this decision. 0:14:29.560 --> 0:14:33.240 So that would rule out someone like Sully Levalu, would 0:14:33.280 --> 0:14:36.120 it from doing that if if it's you haven't played 0:14:36.280 --> 0:14:39.560 league before, I think he's been away, like you think 0:14:39.560 --> 0:14:41.000 that he would have been away long enough. 0:14:41.080 --> 0:14:44.720 But he's coming back, I mean surely coming out. Yeah, 0:14:44.760 --> 0:14:45.360 that's a good point. 0:14:45.360 --> 0:14:47.600 And thought of that, Mick, because you had in the 0:14:47.640 --> 0:14:51.320 column last week that NURL clubs we're looking at him. 0:14:51.680 --> 0:14:52.960 It's I just think I. 0:14:52.920 --> 0:14:54.760 Think that I'm a looking a Sley for next year, though. 0:14:55.400 --> 0:14:58.880 I just wonder if this sparks it any idea what 0:14:58.920 --> 0:14:59.800 the roosters are playing. 0:15:00.200 --> 0:15:01.200 No one liked too Easy. 0:15:02.400 --> 0:15:04.360 I think there was some reported figures where they're around 0:15:04.360 --> 0:15:06.520 the four hundred or right, and saying. 0:15:06.320 --> 0:15:08.600 That I love it. I love the fact that, well 0:15:08.640 --> 0:15:13.480 I'm always intrigued by code hoppers, and saying I actually 0:15:13.560 --> 0:15:17.200 enjoyed when the NFL had the when the June thirty 0:15:17.240 --> 0:15:19.920 window got pushed to the first Monday in August and 0:15:20.000 --> 0:15:22.440 gave clubs a bit more scope to go all in 0:15:22.480 --> 0:15:24.040 at that back end of the year. When we had 0:15:24.040 --> 0:15:26.120 those late A lot of people didn't like that. I 0:15:26.120 --> 0:15:27.640 think I was probably in the minority of people that 0:15:27.640 --> 0:15:30.280 did enjoy those late season switches of you know, a 0:15:30.360 --> 0:15:34.840 bit of Pengline like where they were sort of parachuted 0:15:34.880 --> 0:15:36.680 in for club to try and win a premiership and 0:15:36.680 --> 0:15:38.400 go all in. I actually didn't mind it. It's more 0:15:38.480 --> 0:15:41.560 the successful clubs that do it, yeah, and the bottom 0:15:41.600 --> 0:15:43.920 feeders can sort of clear out some dead in their 0:15:43.960 --> 0:15:46.880 cap works for them and you know, for seasons going 0:15:46.920 --> 0:15:49.640 forward as well. I actually didn't mind it. So I 0:15:49.640 --> 0:15:53.840 don't know about total dispensations for rugby union players, but 0:15:54.360 --> 0:15:57.760 making allowances to allow him to go play potentially while 0:15:57.760 --> 0:15:59.360 were playing the Olympics and come back and finish the 0:15:59.440 --> 0:16:00.680 year off at roof as I don't mind it. I 0:16:00.720 --> 0:16:03.000 don't think he'll play an l this year. 0:16:03.360 --> 0:16:05.760 He's physically a big kid. Like physically that might be 0:16:05.800 --> 0:16:08.000 the problem been learning the game. 0:16:08.160 --> 0:16:08.760 It's going to be. 0:16:10.200 --> 0:16:12.880 It's going to be a massive call for a rooster's 0:16:12.880 --> 0:16:14.800 side on their way to a premiership at this point 0:16:14.840 --> 0:16:21.720 in time to drop a debutante from rugby union into 0:16:21.720 --> 0:16:25.160 the back line in August, two. 0:16:25.040 --> 0:16:28.320 Weeks before the semi Yeah, So I don't have a 0:16:28.360 --> 0:16:29.840 huge issue with it because I don't think he's going 0:16:29.920 --> 0:16:32.840 to have that influence on that on the rooster. 0:16:33.200 --> 0:16:35.600 Interesting the one Carter Gordon guys the side of the 0:16:35.600 --> 0:16:42.280 Gold Coast Titans. He's immediately to Wallaby fly half. He's 0:16:42.360 --> 0:16:45.400 currently in training with the Titans now. Des has declared 0:16:45.480 --> 0:16:51.000 yesterday that he's unlikely to be part of the NRL team. 0:16:51.400 --> 0:16:55.440 He'll start getting getting his education as far as NRL 0:16:55.560 --> 0:16:56.160 is concerned. 0:16:56.560 --> 0:16:58.440 Maybe play Queensland Cup this year. 0:16:58.720 --> 0:17:03.040 So another one to watch. Some wool warbrick outstanding for 0:17:03.080 --> 0:17:03.560 the Storm. 0:17:04.040 --> 0:17:04.800 Locky Miller had. 0:17:04.680 --> 0:17:05.080 A little go. 0:17:06.040 --> 0:17:07.320 It was pretty good to Locky Miller. 0:17:07.359 --> 0:17:09.840 He had some big games. It worked out well. Worked 0:17:10.440 --> 0:17:11.640 worked out well for Locky Miller. 0:17:11.680 --> 0:17:14.040 I mean he was he was nowhere with Rugby, comes 0:17:14.040 --> 0:17:16.200 to Chronolic, it's a contract, got another contract at the 0:17:16.280 --> 0:17:18.440 Knights and now he's playing in the English Super League. 0:17:20.040 --> 0:17:22.480 When we get Vegas formally announced, obviously we know the 0:17:22.480 --> 0:17:26.280 four clubs that are going. It was supposed to happen yesterday, 0:17:26.320 --> 0:17:30.520 the formal announcements Wednesday. Any any indication. 0:17:30.200 --> 0:17:32.119 Of when there's a chance tomorrow. 0:17:32.240 --> 0:17:36.520 They're trying to they're trying to lock in the external 0:17:36.960 --> 0:17:40.320 parts of the announcement and it's not necessarily about the 0:17:40.359 --> 0:17:44.920 four teams of which have been reported repeatedly. 0:17:46.720 --> 0:17:48.520 Panthers, Warriors, Sharks, Raiders. 0:17:49.960 --> 0:17:52.520 But it's more about all your teams are going, Dave, 0:17:52.560 --> 0:17:57.840 you just need the Dragons to go and be spreading yourself. 0:17:57.560 --> 0:17:58.600 To not be going. 0:18:00.040 --> 0:18:03.200 I guarantee you're locked in, mate, lottery there, you're locked 0:18:03.240 --> 0:18:11.199 in there. That's obviously there's going to be you can 0:18:11.240 --> 0:18:11.480 have that. 0:18:12.880 --> 0:18:15.080 Elements to how are you going to do this without asking? 0:18:15.200 --> 0:18:18.040 We're going to the listeners. We're going to Paris reading 0:18:18.080 --> 0:18:23.560 and three weeks, three weeks, two weeks next week. 0:18:23.440 --> 0:18:24.280 Two weeks Monday. 0:18:24.359 --> 0:18:26.720 Oh my lord, So how are you going to do this, Mick? 0:18:26.920 --> 0:18:30.560 How are you going to back? We can do it, mate, 0:18:30.920 --> 0:18:34.160 what at that time? We'll do it on our times exactly. 0:18:34.400 --> 0:18:36.800 You guys can do an Olympics podcast. 0:18:36.800 --> 0:18:39.840 I'm sure that's our last episode before we go where 0:18:40.480 --> 0:18:41.400 it's okay. 0:18:41.359 --> 0:18:43.880 You can whatever. I'll bring a briget in. Maybe we'll 0:18:43.880 --> 0:18:46.399 get the old crew back of Mobsy and Buzz. Some 0:18:46.400 --> 0:18:48.400 people have been asking for that. They're not happy with read. 0:18:52.440 --> 0:18:55.119 Let's take some questions that you my questions before we 0:18:55.119 --> 0:19:00.800 get to listen to questions, you're surprised. Biggest surprise of 0:19:00.880 --> 0:19:05.639 twenty twenty four Dogs at fifth, Dragons eighth, Souths at 0:19:05.680 --> 0:19:08.960 fourteen and it was at sixteen, which which were those 0:19:09.000 --> 0:19:11.920 surprise you the most in terms of their latter spot 0:19:12.119 --> 0:19:14.200