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Speaker 1: This is the Fitty and Whipper with Kate Richie podcast.

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Speaker 2: Hey what's up a Charlsie.

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Speaker 1: It's a mess out there.

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Speaker 2: They can leave you the Wettlenny we got by Oh

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Speaker 2: you've got ninety keep it on Nova.

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Speaker 1: I'm here.

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Speaker 3: Can you guys hear me?

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Speaker 4: Okay, we have got your superstar.

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Speaker 3: We're just talking about scary kids films, And then we

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Speaker 3: were talking about films we should write down for our

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Speaker 3: kids to watch, and I said, et. We tried it

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Speaker 3: in our house, but it was way too scary for

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Speaker 3: my seven year old. And now we do the old

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Speaker 3: ET when she needs to be scared into submission.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, very powerful.

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Speaker 2: I jumped the gun with my son and I was

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Speaker 2: just so excited to share Nightmare before Christmas.

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Speaker 3: Horrible idea, how he's only a couple of years. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: And I was.

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Speaker 2: Just trying to like speed through all the scary parts,

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Speaker 2: and I was like, the whole movie is scary.

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Speaker 3: I think there are so many films that you watch

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Speaker 3: now that we were probably sat down in front of

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Speaker 3: when we were kids that we just thought were fine.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what you grew up on, Halsey, but

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Speaker 3: we'd watch the film Grease and I loved that film,

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Speaker 3: but the themes in Greece are far too old for

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Speaker 3: young girls. I think so.

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Speaker 2: My nickname when I was little, because I had really curly,

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Speaker 2: dark hair, you know, was Rizzo. As I got older,

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Speaker 2: I was like, I don't know if that's a compliment.

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Speaker 3: No Rio is the bad girl. Didn't she she fell

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Speaker 3: pregnant out of wedlock? Oh god?

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Speaker 2: So did?

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Speaker 3: I just real hare.

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Speaker 4: Holsey, Was there a movie that scarred you when you

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Speaker 4: were younger as a kid outside of Greece.

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Speaker 2: I had an uncle babysitting me who let me watch

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Speaker 2: the original it?

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Speaker 4: Oh my god.

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Speaker 3: And how do you feel about clowns these days?

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Speaker 2: Mostly terrified? But there's this girl on Instagram I follow

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Speaker 2: who makes these tiny little clown sculptures. I just love

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Speaker 2: watching her make them, and I feel like it's like

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Speaker 2: exposure therapy. It's like making me less afraid of clown

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry this is not a focused interview at all,

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Speaker 2: because we.

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Speaker 3: Were going to talk about Lucky. But before the interview,

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Speaker 3: I was saying that I know this is an old song,

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Speaker 3: but I do love it. You should be sad.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I feel so sorry.

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Speaker 3: It's one of your songs that I have many many

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Speaker 3: times too many to count have cried in the car too,

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Speaker 3: and I just, oh, well, it's kind of you know,

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Speaker 3: it's a breakup song looking back and whatever it is. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I know, because it is quite full on. There's and

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Speaker 3: full on themes in that too. And I wondered, are

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Speaker 3: the songs by other artists that you've had a tier

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Speaker 3: two in the car or songs that you know that

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Speaker 3: are going to evoke particular emotion when you're driving down

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Speaker 3: the freeway.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's quite a few. Yeah, I think that. Uh,

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Speaker 2: you know, there's some obvious ones, you know, like I

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Speaker 2: feel like Tailored always gets me going. Taylor's got a

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Speaker 2: hundred songs that make me feel that way. And then honestly,

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Speaker 2: some kind of like Elliott Smith always makes me cry

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Speaker 2: like some of seas. Oh yeah, you know that's quite emotional.

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Speaker 2: I think it's called does it Breathed Me? Is that? What? It's?

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Speaker 2: That one? If I ever have to do like a

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Speaker 2: like an audition or a music video or something where

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Speaker 2: I need to cry, I just put that on the

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Speaker 2: headphones and I'm like, it's.

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Speaker 4: Interesting, that's what you sort of take out of Holsey's music. Okay,

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Speaker 4: because the line I like is when I die, I

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Speaker 4: won't have time to spend all my money. So that's

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Speaker 4: inspired me to, like Lisa keeps saying, my wife keeps saying,

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Speaker 4: where's all the cash gone? And I think now is

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Speaker 4: the time to spend it. So I went and invested

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Speaker 4: in a race horse and bought a new boat and

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Speaker 4: stuff like that, so we don't have any cash left.

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Speaker 2: To make amazing life decisions.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm connecting with Holsey on a much deeper level,

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Speaker 3: whereas you're far more superficial. And that's what's great about her.

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Speaker 3: She appeals to the masses.

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Speaker 4: It inspired me to go and buy ridiculous things.

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Speaker 3: I love that, you know.

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Speaker 2: It's so funny that lyric is like a little on

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Speaker 2: the nose for me. I feel like I'm usually like

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Speaker 2: I'm either like quite metaphorical or I'm quite sharp with

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Speaker 2: the knife, and that lyric, I think was like it's

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Speaker 2: definitely just like a life's too short kind of thing,

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Speaker 2: you know. I was kind of just looking around, thinking

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Speaker 2: like I should make sure I'm making memories, you know,

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Speaker 2: And I.

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Speaker 1: Think everybody and I hate to bring up the pandemic,

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Speaker 1: but I feel like everybody since then has realized the

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Speaker 1: value I mean, when I consider an investment now, an

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Speaker 1: investment for me is investing in a holiday with the family.

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Speaker 3: You're such a good guy.

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Speaker 4: Is he fooling himself?

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Speaker 2: After you called him superficial?

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Speaker 4: He was like, she's trying to shut me down. I am.

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Speaker 3: I know what I want to ask Halsey about is

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Speaker 3: of course your brand new single Lucky, which is we

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Speaker 3: are loving it. But it's also the clip that's incredible,

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Speaker 3: and I think that just now we've heard you like

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Speaker 3: kind of reflect on life and look back and think

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Speaker 3: about where you've come from, and I feel like there's

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Speaker 3: so much of that within the clip, But there's an

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Speaker 3: underlying feeling of sadness I felt too that I got

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Speaker 3: from that all the fact that not everyone knows the

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Speaker 3: real story all of the time.

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Speaker 2: You know, I think that I think that I really

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Speaker 2: just wanted to be heard, and I just really wanted

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Speaker 2: to be acknowledged. You know. I grew up in a

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Speaker 2: household where both of my parents worked like three jobs

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Speaker 2: each and we moved a lot. They were really young

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Speaker 2: when they had me, and I was the oldest kid,

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Speaker 2: and they were just so busy, and I just I

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Speaker 2: felt alone a lot. I felt lonely, a lot, and

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Speaker 2: music was kind of there for me when I didn't

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Speaker 2: feel like I was being heard or I was being understood.

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Speaker 2: I wrote a lot when I was younger, like poetry

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Speaker 2: and stories and that kind of thing, and I wouldwys

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Speaker 2: bring them home and I would hand them to my

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Speaker 2: to her parents. You know, there's six stacks of paper,

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Speaker 2: and can you read what I wrote? Like I got

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Speaker 2: an A plus in school And they would pick it

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Speaker 2: up and they'd look at it and they'd go, you know, yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's great. Did you really read it? Did you read it?

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Speaker 2: And then one day I figured out if I sang it,

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Speaker 2: they had to hear it.

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Speaker 4: Interesting they had.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they were. They were no longer just looking at

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Speaker 3: the page.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I should sing to my wife, I think, is

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Speaker 4: what you're saying, because no.

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Speaker 2: You should try it. You should be like, you should

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Speaker 2: be like, can we go out for dinner?

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Speaker 3: Feeler?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Also, no, We've love chatting to you today, And next

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Speaker 3: time I'm crying in the car holes the singing, you

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Speaker 3: should be sad. I will be thinking of you and

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Speaker 3: loving that you spoke the words I was feeling.

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much, Thank you so much for your time.

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Speaker 2: Thank you guys so much and thanks for supporting the record.

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Speaker 2: I can't wait to be down there.

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Speaker 3: I don't wait to see you. Make sure you come

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Speaker 3: and see us.

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Speaker 2: I will.

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Speaker 3: Thanks.

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