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Speaker 1: Introducing our next guest.

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Speaker 2: He's the world's foremost psychic medium, having authored numerous New

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Speaker 2: York Times best sellers and hosted the television show Crossing Over.

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Speaker 2: We live in a world where people tax constantly, they

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Speaker 2: shorten their words, they use emojis. Well, why not follow

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Speaker 2: that symbolic form of communication with somebody.

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Speaker 3: Who's crossed a lot of people wait.

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Speaker 2: For it to happen to them instead of being half

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Speaker 2: that bridge.

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Speaker 1: Possie fans loved his last tour, and we're hoping we

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Speaker 1: would have been ghosted.

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Speaker 2: For another one.

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Speaker 3: Good news is why not?

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Speaker 2: Please welcome to the show, John and when Hey.

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Speaker 3: Great morning. I love that. But like that, that was cool,

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Speaker 3: pulling trill.

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Speaker 4: We're thrilled to have you back. I don't I feel

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Speaker 4: like it wasn't that long ago we saw you in Melbourne?

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Speaker 5: Was it last year?

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Speaker 3: I was, Yeah, I was here last year.

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Speaker 5: You just keep coming back.

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Speaker 3: I keep coming back addicted.

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Speaker 5: Do you like the Is it the Aussie crowds? Is

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Speaker 5: it the Aussie spirit?

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Speaker 2: What is it the It's pretty much everything Australian that

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Speaker 2: I actually like from from an energy standpoint.

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Speaker 3: I've said this publicly that I used to.

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Speaker 2: Come like earlier in the year, I have like I

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Speaker 2: would stay, I'd do it February. And then I noticed

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Speaker 2: that when I started doing my tours in like October November.

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Speaker 2: When I went back to the States, I didn't want

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Speaker 2: to work. I didn't want to do events when I

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Speaker 2: was back home because I didn't like the distinct difference

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Speaker 2: in cultural energies. Yeah, I much prefer the energy here.

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Speaker 3: Is it exhausting? It is exhausting, especially as I get alder, because.

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Speaker 1: You are dealing with you know, you you walk into

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Speaker 1: a room wherever that room may be, and I feel

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Speaker 1: as though you'd sort of almost always be on the job.

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Speaker 3: So that's a misnomer. I'm actually I'm actually the opposite.

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Speaker 2: So I come out of healthcare, and when you're in healthcare,

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Speaker 2: you work with what's called universal precautions, where you always

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Speaker 2: make sure you're protecting yourself and the patient that you're navigating.

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Speaker 2: So I kind of feel like I do metaphysical precautions.

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Speaker 2: So energy was if I'm going to be, you know,

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Speaker 2: sitting on a plane or if I'm in a restaurant,

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Speaker 2: I don't want to pick up stuff.

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Speaker 5: Yes, it must be so important.

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Speaker 2: It is very very important. Now I didn't know that

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Speaker 2: when I was a kid. I didn't know that as

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Speaker 2: a kid. So as a kid, I was not off.

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Speaker 2: Like I would always be on ice to manage a

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Speaker 2: video store, trying yourself to and when people would walk

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Speaker 2: up to the counter with their boxes, and I always

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Speaker 2: tell people like a video stores like Netflix in a store,

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Speaker 2: you know, So when people would walk up, I would

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Speaker 2: attack read them and I would ambush them in the

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Speaker 2: store because I didn't you know, I was trying to

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Speaker 2: I was. I was really coming from a place of

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Speaker 2: ego back then, not in a place of teaching.

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Speaker 6: With that in mind, that you've got the ability to

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Speaker 6: turn off. So if you're in a setting, you're at

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Speaker 6: a coffee shop, Lawrence next to you, and someone is

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Speaker 6: coming through to speak to Lawrence like so strongly.

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Speaker 2: Wouldn't happen, right, It wouldn't happen because I'm not on.

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Speaker 2: So think about me as being like a mobile device.

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Speaker 2: If the mobile.

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Speaker 5: Device you're an air planer.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm an airplane mode. You're stealing that. I am

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Speaker 2: an airplane mode exactly. No Wi Fi on for I'm.

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Speaker 4: Very open minded to this stuff and so clean. We

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Speaker 4: love a bit of wor but for people who don't

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Speaker 4: get it. How does it work?

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Speaker 5: So you walk into a studio like this, are you

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Speaker 5: in airplane mode?

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Speaker 4: Now?

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Speaker 3: Are you on no? Half and half?

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Speaker 5: Half and half?

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Speaker 3: Half and half?

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Speaker 5: And how does it work?

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Speaker 4: Do people have to talk to you and come to

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Speaker 4: just to sit back and you know what's coming.

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Speaker 2: So if I'm doing a private reading for someone, or

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Speaker 2: if I'm going to be standing on stage here and

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Speaker 2: doing events, I don't want to know anything. I just

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Speaker 2: want to let whatever's going to happen kind of happen.

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Speaker 2: If I'm doing something like radio or live television, that's

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Speaker 2: shifted for me over a DJ. There's a DJ in

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Speaker 2: the States. His name is Ross Britton. And when I

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Speaker 2: like the glass, and I start seeing them putting like

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Speaker 2: paper line one, Susan Mom, line two, Dave Mom. And

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Speaker 2: I'm looking at that and I was like, I can't

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Speaker 2: see that. And Ross looks at me and he goes,

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Speaker 2: so then don't look, And I was like, but you're

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Speaker 2: was like, Okay, we're going to line one. Susan wants

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Speaker 2: to talk to her mom. We're going to go to

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Speaker 2: line two. David wants to talk to mom. And I

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Speaker 2: said to him in the commercial break, I go, Ross,

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Speaker 2: I don't want or need information. He goes, yeah, you do.

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Speaker 2: And I was on my show with my name. This

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Speaker 2: is how we're doing it, he goes. He goes, when

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Speaker 2: you get your show, you do it your way, and

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Speaker 2: here's why he did it. And this was really this

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Speaker 2: was really cool for me to learn. People call up

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Speaker 2: with an intention of who they want to connect with. Ye,

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Speaker 2: Susan wanted to connect with mom. But if I don't

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Speaker 2: connect with Mom and I connect with Grandma or somebody else,

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Speaker 2: Susan's going to take everything I'm saying and apply it

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Speaker 2: to mom. And he was able to, after working with

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Speaker 2: me so so many years, basically say let's get them

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Speaker 2: to not think about the person they want if you're

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Speaker 3: And that was really really helpful. So then I shifted.

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Speaker 2: Whenever I started doing live radio television, I would say,

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Speaker 2: how can I help you or who is it that

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Speaker 3: That makes me smile.

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Speaker 1: It gives me great deal of comfort.

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Speaker 6: My wife and I was saying last night because I

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Speaker 6: mentioned you're coming on the show, and she's like, he

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Speaker 6: must love what he does, because we were like, you know,

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Speaker 6: and stuff you've done. It's like, it's not a job

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Speaker 6: you do for the money. Now, you must really enjoy.

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Speaker 3: It I do.

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Speaker 2: And the amount of attacks that you take when you

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Speaker 2: do this, yeah, I bet it's pretty substantial.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: Like I jokingly say, I have an entire episode of

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Speaker 2: South Park dedicated to me, and every single day I'm

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Speaker 2: reminded of that on social media. John A feather in

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Speaker 2: the Cap, you know what it really is, And I'll

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Speaker 2: tell you why, because there's so many people, young people

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Speaker 2: learned who I am from that episode. Yeah, and then

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Speaker 2: they go to they go to YouTube and they find

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Speaker 5: It can be a little frightening for people.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I think if they're coming from a place

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Speaker 4: Well, sorry, sorry, I probably not frightening is in the

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Speaker 2: And I think that when somebody is in a dark

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Speaker 2: And one of the things I hope has happened is

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Speaker 2: that when people pay attention to the subject matter, the process,

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Speaker 2: that there's a survival of consciousness, that life and love

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Speaker 2: then that fear of it ending goes away and it

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Speaker 2: helps us to know that there's a continuity.

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Speaker 1: So without forcing the issue and keeping in mind that

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Speaker 1: you're sort of half on as you say, I mean.

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Speaker 3: Is there an energy in this room? Is there anything.

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Speaker 3: Not that I'm immediately getting.

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Speaker 6: The way I find this building is terrible. Can we

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Speaker 4: I'm just so you know what, because people would meet

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Speaker 2: Sometimes it's I want you to come to Sometimes it's

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Speaker 2: the because you can't force the issue. I went to

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Speaker 3: She literally looks at me.

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Speaker 2: She's got like her tools in her hand, and she went,

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Speaker 2: right now. And I looked at it was like what

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Speaker 2: she's like, I don't want to know nothing. I don't

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Speaker 2: want to hear from anybody. I am the one with

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Speaker 6: I when I lost my parents soon after, excuse me,

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Speaker 6: we were offered an interview with you, and I politely

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Speaker 6: It was like, maybe they won't, and then I would

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Speaker 2: Can I tell you how important what you just said is?

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Speaker 2: Because so many people think that if they go for

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Speaker 2: a reading, it's going to fix their grief, and the

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Speaker 2: reality is it's not, you know. And I will also

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Speaker 2: tell people, don't go for a reading if you're not

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Speaker 2: hear from other people. And it's important to remember.

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Speaker 1: That it's not always grief though. I dare say that

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Speaker 1: a lot of the things you pick up a celebratory

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Speaker 1: as well. Yeahs, And that's really.

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Speaker 2: Cool and important in your reunion and when you get

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Speaker 2: together with people, you reminisce about things that took place,

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Speaker 2: and sometimes they give us a heads up about what's

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Speaker 4: So I was saying to these guys, I lost a

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Speaker 4: really close friend. It was actually a year ago yesterday

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Speaker 4: that I saw him, And when when they said that

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Speaker 4: you were coming in, I was like, I.

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Speaker 5: Don't I don't know how I feel about that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I'm very much at peace, like I was

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Speaker 4: very excited to see you today and I'm fine. But

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Speaker 4: the thought of that, I was like, what if something happens,

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Speaker 4: what if something comes and I'm overwhelmed by it, and

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Speaker 4: I imagine that must happen to people.

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Speaker 2: It does, and it's one of the reasons why I

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Speaker 2: don't like to read for hosts of shows because one

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Speaker 2: it you're doing your job right now. So it's kind

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Speaker 2: of like if you were to get your teeth cleaned

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Speaker 2: right now, you can't do that while you're doing your

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Speaker 2: job right It's a personal thing you do on your

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Speaker 5: It was back, He's not the police.

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Speaker 2: It's all crowd, So it's kind of like you know

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Speaker 6: Now, it's not so jealous, I know, just just to

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Speaker 2: The seat doesn't matter, you know which I really should

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Speaker 5: You just get a better view.

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Speaker 5: I actually I don't want I've had people try to

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Speaker 4: Go with my partner, right and I love this stuff

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Speaker 2: He should definitely do he personally, that should definitely not

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yes, so I can't let that happen.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I feel for the people. My sisters are

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Speaker 3: Happy to understanding that's. Yeah, it is really powerful.

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Speaker 6: Well, it's amazing work you do. John Wack massive fans.

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Speaker 6: John Edward is live in Australia. He is doing the tour.

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Speaker 6: Tickets at John Edward dot Net. Haym Hall is where

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Speaker 5: How are you here for a while?

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Speaker 3: I am what are you going.

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Speaker 5: To do for a month?

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Speaker 3: He's going to serve I'm looking for residency that the.

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Speaker 4: Melbourne Cup is running on next Tuesday, and if you've

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Speaker 4: we'd love to know.

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Speaker 3: I don't think it works like that. One year it did.

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Speaker 6: You're not helping John.

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Speaker 3: One year it did.

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Speaker 5: We'll just whisper it to me. No more about the boys.

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Speaker 3: I good to say that, thanks for having Thank you, thank.

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Speaker 1: You, Lauren.

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Speaker 4: Lauren wake up feeling good following them on the socials