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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to the official Supercoach AFL show. Al

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Speaker 1: Paydon here with some Supercoach experts gathered together for We're

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Speaker 1: calling this the first episode of twenty twenty five because

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four season is done and dusted. It's all

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Speaker 1: about next year and we have some really interesting players

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Speaker 1: to talk about with the conclusion of the AFL trade period,

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Speaker 1: so we get stuck into that in a second with

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Speaker 1: my very good friends Patch. Great to have you back.

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Speaker 1: Did you enjoy the Yeah, supercoachy year. Did you enjoy

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Speaker 1: the trades?

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Speaker 2: No, it was terrible. It was the period goes for

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Speaker 2: both too long and not long enough, and it's just

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Speaker 2: I wish I could have tinned out like I did

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Speaker 2: most years, but it's my job now so or it's

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Speaker 2: our job now, but anyway, it was. It was fine.

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Speaker 2: We get lots of super Coach stuff out of it, though,

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Speaker 2: and that's fun, so I'm keen to talk about that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, This is the good part and very excited.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be some big changes, new things coming

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Speaker 1: for twenty twenty five. Just all will be unveiled over

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Speaker 1: the course of time, but a little teaser today is

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Speaker 1: a brand new member of the podcast team. Chloe Williams

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Speaker 1: you've probably seen her on the social has been doing

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Speaker 1: some great work for us this year in a super

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Speaker 1: coach base, currently ranked one hundredth in super Coach NBL.

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Speaker 1: But we're not going to talk about that. We're talking

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Speaker 1: about Supercoach AFL. Chloe. Great to have you on board.

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Speaker 3: Happy to be here, patch already style my happy New

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Speaker 3: Year jokes. I don't really have anything left in that regard,

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Speaker 3: but yeah, a bit more of an NBL expert at

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Speaker 3: the moment, but much more comfortable with AFL.

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Speaker 1: Let's be honest, excellent, that's what we will get into

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Speaker 1: the next already, just stealing all of your thunder Thank sorry, great, great,

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Speaker 1: so welcome to be part of the team, but great

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Speaker 1: to have you on board. So we've seen plenty more

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Speaker 1: of Chloe around the traps over the next twelve months

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Speaker 1: and going forward so with a fresh new look and

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Speaker 1: everything for twenty twenty five. If you're out there, subscribe

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Speaker 1: on Spotify, Apple, wherever you listen to podcast. Leave a

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Speaker 1: rating and review to help other people find the show,

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Speaker 1: and let's get into the exciting world. Wasn't very exciting

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Speaker 1: for about a week trade period, and then It got

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Speaker 1: very exciting for about five minutes last night, and then

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Speaker 1: we get to dissect what it all means for super

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Speaker 1: Coach in twenty twenty five. And I think this could

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Speaker 1: be one of the more relevant trade periods that we've

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Speaker 1: had for a while. We like to talk about it

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Speaker 1: each year that a new club can create new opportunities,

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Speaker 1: and usually there's one or two. Last year, we had

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Speaker 1: a guy called Brodie Grundy, you don't if you remember him,

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Speaker 1: sounds familiar, who was an interesting case for us coming

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Speaker 1: into the season at a new club. And then you know,

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Speaker 1: James Jordan was a good example of someone who goes

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Speaker 1: to a new team, gets a good role, some more

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Speaker 1: opportunity and was a handy sort of value pick for

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Speaker 1: us at the start of the year. But I think

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Speaker 1: there could be plenty more names this year that we

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Speaker 1: And one thing that when I was making some notes

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Speaker 1: about at the end of this season, thinking, you know,

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Speaker 1: we didn't have a great list of players to choose

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Speaker 1: from this year and then we're going to lose a

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Speaker 1: if a few of these guys come in as forwards

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Speaker 1: for us. But we'll go through some names. We've got

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Speaker 1: him under different headings, and let's just go back with

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Speaker 1: some forwards and debate because I think we can. There

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Speaker 1: will be some contentious classifications, but we'll start. I think

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Speaker 1: with the guy that I saw the fans and beat

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Speaker 1: me to the punch boy about one second on Twitter

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Speaker 1: last night as soon as the deal went through to say.

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Speaker 2: Got to be first.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well I was actually working and he wasn't, so

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Speaker 1: give him. He has a had a needge on me there.

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Speaker 1: But Caleb Daniel now a Kangaroos player, does that mean

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Speaker 1: he's someone we want to pick in our super coach teams?

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Speaker 1: Because he was very cheap at the end of the season.

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Speaker 1: And if he's cheap, and I mean, the thing that

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Speaker 1: away is Marty passed. His manager was on trade radio

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Speaker 1: and the quote from him was, he'll play half back.

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Speaker 1: He wants to be free and happy.

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Speaker 2: Don't we all?

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Speaker 1: Don't we all?

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Speaker 2: Caleb? He's the first pick for mine. He's just like,

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Speaker 2: it's a no brainer.

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Speaker 3: I guess it could be the twenty twenty five version

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Speaker 3: of Danes Orco the half back in the forward line,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean to me, it sounds like Jack

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Speaker 1: Zebel about three years ago. He was forward at the

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Speaker 1: start of the year in Super Coach, price to like

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Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty K, and then he went to

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Speaker 1: price is going to be way way down. He finished

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Speaker 1: the year priced at two hundred and fifty two K.

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Speaker 1: He was actually under two hundred K with a couple

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Speaker 1: good games to finish the year. But so that's just

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Speaker 1: a bit of an indication. Doesn't mean that's exactly where

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Speaker 1: we started next year, but he will be very, very cheap.

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Speaker 1: So if he is, if he was eligible, well that's

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Speaker 1: the thing. I mean, he was a mid forward this year,

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Speaker 1: but he was sort of I mean, he was the

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Speaker 1: sub more than anything. So I'm not really sure we're

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Speaker 1: champion DH all plump him for next season. But I

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Speaker 1: mean he's going to be cheap wherever he is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think probably all starting regardless of

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Speaker 2: even if he's mid only. I think the value there

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Speaker 2: is too good and the DPP will come if he's

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Speaker 2: playing off half back and if he's taking kick ins

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Speaker 2: at North that's oh that's cash money.

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Speaker 1: Well yeah, I mean I mentioned Ze, but we know

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Speaker 1: what they wrong at North yea with a good friend

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Speaker 1: Zach Fisher this year. Even it's to put up some

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Speaker 1: good scores at different times of the year. But you know,

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Speaker 1: obviously Cheesels mckirch's Aaron Hall back in the day, like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we know what that can be like. So yeah, tick

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Speaker 1: tick tick for Caleb Daniels. So we love him. But

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Speaker 1: I mean the Bulldogs actually have generated plenty of good

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Speaker 1: potential picks for us guys getting out of the Bevo atmosphere, Yes, exactly,

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Speaker 1: and maybe you know, giving themselves a consistent role like

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Speaker 1: the biggest name potentially that changed clubs and he will

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Speaker 1: be one of the most popular picks I think next year,

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Speaker 1: He's going to come in at a massive discount and

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Speaker 1: you would think Chloe walks straight into the Geelong midfield.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I definitely think he'll walks straight in there. And

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Speaker 3: I guess for me four forty eight. You know, it's

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Speaker 3: one of those value sort of price tags. That's what

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Speaker 3: he was priced at this year anyway, one of those

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Speaker 3: value price tags that most of the time you're a

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Speaker 3: bit fifty to fifty on. But I think with what

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Speaker 3: we've seen him do, most people will be one hundred

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so he was mid forward at the start of

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Speaker 1: this year and because he didn't play with Hume, he

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Speaker 1: will be that again next year. So again, yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: going to be a massive help to fill out our

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Speaker 1: four lines. And if he gets a thirty percent discamp

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Speaker 1: for not playing it all this year, that brings him

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Speaker 1: be very hard to pass up.

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Speaker 2: Yep. Absolutely, I'm another guy in the forward line who

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Speaker 2: gets a change of scenery. Shae Bolton, you're loving Shay

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Speaker 2: your premiership player at the Tigers heads West for a

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Speaker 2: bumper hand of draft picks. Didn't have a great year

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Speaker 2: this year, only average seventy seven point two from.

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Speaker 1: The Richmond did that well, you may may have missed that.

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Speaker 2: No, can you film me in?

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Speaker 1: Can you give me just.

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Speaker 2: The blow by blow of the entire season from a

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Speaker 2: Richmond perspective for us?

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Speaker 1: Maybe a super Coach plus special some stage over.

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Speaker 2: The Breaz the sixth part of one hour episodes breaking

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Speaker 2: down Richmond season. But no, he's someone that can play

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Speaker 2: football quite well and can score Supercoach points quite well.

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Speaker 2: Ow would you be interested? I'm bringing him in.

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Speaker 1: I think it really does depend on what the forward

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Speaker 1: line looks like next year for options, because he gonna

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Speaker 1: lose a few players like Zorko, you mentioned Heeney, guys

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Speaker 1: like that. You know Joe Corwell won't be available as

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Speaker 1: a forward next year. Flanders. I'm not really sure where

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Speaker 1: he's going to be positioned, but tpp. But so he

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Speaker 1: could be one of the players we might consider, and

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Speaker 1: he will be. I think he'll be unders for what

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Speaker 1: he can do, so will be priced that he's seventy

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Speaker 1: seven average this year, he averaged ninety six point seven

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Speaker 1: I mean, where do you think he fits in at

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Speaker 1: Frio because we know he can play that actual classic

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Speaker 1: mid forward role and your King goals is probably where

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Speaker 1: he gets a lot of his points from. But obviously

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Speaker 1: getting some CBA's definitely helps. Yeah, that I sort of

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Speaker 1: feel like, I think he'll score higher than he did

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Speaker 1: this year, but can he get back up to that

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Speaker 1: ninety close to one hundred when that freo midfield's pretty

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Speaker 1: hard to crack?

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Speaker 2: L Chloe and I were looking at the Center Bounce

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Speaker 2: attendances for Frio earlier, and it's not pretty if you're

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Speaker 2: not one of just long with his favorites. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: it was it was basically Sarrong, Ray Shaw, Young five

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Speaker 2: and was it Johnson was the last one I was

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Speaker 2: getting a few minutes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, well behind those other groups.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's basically if he picks his four, they're the

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Speaker 2: four little rotate through with the ruck and unless say,

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Speaker 2: you can get into that, or unless they change the

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Speaker 2: way they set that up, yeah.

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Speaker 3: I might make a bold call and just say I'm

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Speaker 3: not going to go there. I don't think. Okay, on

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Speaker 3: the way you know, I just don't think that he'll

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Speaker 3: consistently hit that hundred, just because I don't know if

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Speaker 3: there will be that balance between goals and CBA's. I

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Speaker 3: think it'll either be heavily relaying on goals and you

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Speaker 3: know how we all went with that Charlie Kurno towards

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Speaker 3: the end of the year. It doesn't always work out

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Speaker 3: the best, even if they are a great player.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, consistency you mentioned there is the thing like

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Speaker 1: looking up his twenty twenty three season when he did

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Speaker 1: average nearly ninety seven, he had four scores over one

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Speaker 1: hundred and forty and three under sixty, So you know,

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Speaker 1: are you prepared to ride that.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes maybe good, sometimes maybe not good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And the problem is he'll probably he'll get cheap

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Speaker 1: at some stage and then he'll put out a couple

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Speaker 1: of these massive scores and that's when you'll be really tempting,

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Speaker 1: but then you've probably missed them.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I think we can get forwards that will

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Speaker 3: be definitely playing midfield minutes. I would rather put my

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Speaker 2: I think he's in that role as an X factor

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Speaker 1: You can but yeah, no, you know, if he wasn't

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Speaker 1: Looking at Jack mcgray's CBA number, so in twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: one he had seventy seven percent, and that's when he

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Speaker 1: then they've gradually dropped over the last few years, sixty

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Speaker 3: I think that especially. It kind of depends because you

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Speaker 1: So yeah, preseason, which I guess to try to engage

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Speaker 2: Oh yes, yeah, I'm interested what McCray does to the

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Speaker 2: to see. I think you're right, Chloe, it'll be a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they've invested in him, so you think they've got

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Speaker 1: massive events. Sure, James Peedling, now an Adelaide crow, has

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Speaker 2: I am very keen. It's me. Yeah, Well you spoke,

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Speaker 2: am if he's forward eligible nearly picked ahead of Daniel.

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Speaker 1: Well, he's another one here, so he's mid forward this year,

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Speaker 1: he'll be So he finished the year what fourteen K,

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Speaker 2: Maybe that's a much harder self. Yeah, in the midfield,

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Speaker 3: What do you think, Chloe, Well, it kind of comes

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Speaker 3: I think led to such a volatile scoring and a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it depends on rookies and structures and all that else,

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Speaker 3: There will be a lot of players as well, kind

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Speaker 3: of around that four hundred markets. It's seeming like depending

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Speaker 2: Even I think that you have to kind of.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it'll it'll be a big decision which players to

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, if you take out all those sub games

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Speaker 2: God, I didn't realize the twenty three five podcast was

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Speaker 2: are rated?

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Speaker 1: Oh keep talking dirty to me? Well, there were the five, yeah,

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Speaker 2: And in the end, if it hadn't happened, I would

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Speaker 2: but we're not We don't care about actual football. We're

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Speaker 3: I think I will, Yeah, just because of that role

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Speaker 3: Nick Daycoss has done from that half back position and

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Speaker 3: it is Houston after all, so I think it'd be silly.

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Speaker 3: Not too personally.

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Speaker 1: He's averaged one o six the last two years at Port,

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Speaker 2: How can I say he's like all Australian?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe once or maybe twice twice.

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Speaker 1: I mean, does he get the kick ins at the

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Speaker 2: I mean, like I feel like if you bring in

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Speaker 2: the ball to Darcy Wore at kickouts, Like no real

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, at least about on. You know, we can

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Speaker 2: Not playing full forward for Collinwood next year.

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Speaker 1: He's not going to be the zub No.

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Speaker 3: They've got him in for a reason, and I think

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Speaker 3: as it has at Port.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, you're probably paying for what you to get,

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Speaker 1: there's a little bit extra you can put on top.

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00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:07,800
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think picking him will come down to whether

438
00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:09,240
Speaker 2: or not you want to go for value in the

439
00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:11,479
Speaker 2: back line or it's like a breakout candidate or all

440
00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:13,600
Speaker 2: the rookies back there or whatever it is. I feel

441
00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:16,600
Speaker 2: like it's going to be a structural reason that you

442
00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:19,320
Speaker 2: wouldn't pick him, as opposed to a form reason.

443
00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:22,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he would definitely be yeah, in that PreO

444
00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:23,120
Speaker 1: bracket to.

445
00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:25,480
Speaker 2: Will he improve? Probably not, but you know what you're

446
00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:26,200
Speaker 2: getting yep.

447
00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:29,960
Speaker 1: I suppose we should mention that he's suspended for around

448
00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:31,160
Speaker 1: just the first.

449
00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:35,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you won't start him opening round his back

450
00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:38,240
Speaker 2: and with that.

451
00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:44,359
Speaker 1: We don't know that it's good. Interesting, that's why you

452
00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:46,640
Speaker 1: listen to these podcasts. They're kind of expert into it.

453
00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,359
Speaker 1: And we talked about Adelaide, another guy there that I

454
00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:52,520
Speaker 1: actually am keeping quite a keen eye on his Isaac coming.

455
00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:56,160
Speaker 1: He came in as a free agent from the Giants. Again,

456
00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:58,119
Speaker 1: he's probably going to be really annoying price of like

457
00:19:58,119 --> 00:19:59,760
Speaker 1: four hundred and four to fifty or something like that,

458
00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:03,520
Speaker 1: but only played six games this year. I actually only

459
00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:04,920
Speaker 1: played four home and away game. So we will get

460
00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:08,240
Speaker 1: a bit of a discount hopefully from the often to

461
00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:12,080
Speaker 1: calculate the prices, so we'll see those in maybe early

462
00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:15,080
Speaker 1: December usually, so we'll be all over those when they

463
00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:17,159
Speaker 1: come out. But so you know, there will definitely be

464
00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:19,920
Speaker 1: some value there, I think because he did have one

465
00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,920
Speaker 1: breakout year in super Coaching twenty twenty two when he

466
00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,879
Speaker 1: averaged ninety five and the key stat that year is

467
00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:27,640
Speaker 1: that he took one hundred and twenty nine kick ins

468
00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:30,200
Speaker 1: and was the number one man at GWS this year.

469
00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:31,760
Speaker 1: He took one for the entire season.

470
00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:36,760
Speaker 2: Not a lot numbers, but one is decidedly less than

471
00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:38,320
Speaker 2: one hundred and nine exactly.

472
00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:41,639
Speaker 1: So he can sort of play out back, push up

473
00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:43,600
Speaker 1: onto a wing maybe so again and will be that

474
00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,920
Speaker 1: adelaide What is the adelaide best? Actually, I think we've

475
00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:50,680
Speaker 1: got no idea how we connecting best twenty three, So

476
00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:51,960
Speaker 1: I might have to go and look at that after

477
00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:54,679
Speaker 1: this and see where did we stick Petland because sorry,

478
00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:57,879
Speaker 1: well yeah yeah, but also coming because I think if

479
00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:01,160
Speaker 1: he's a kick in guy, he's someone will will consider.

480
00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:03,440
Speaker 1: This year, just the kickings at the Crows, they didn't

481
00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,639
Speaker 1: really have a you know, a dominant kicking player like

482
00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:07,840
Speaker 1: a Luke Royan or somebody. It was Mark Kean and

483
00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,359
Speaker 1: Mitch Hinge sort of split them with a few other guys.

484
00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:13,160
Speaker 1: So this is an opening there potentially.

485
00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, possibly, It depends on what role they bought him

486
00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,399
Speaker 2: in for and if he's a dashing half back, if

487
00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:20,440
Speaker 2: he's on a wing, I'm not interested, but yeah yeah,

488
00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:23,000
Speaker 2: if he's behind the ball, then perhaps I.

489
00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:25,960
Speaker 3: Wasn't too keen until I just heard you mention Mitch

490
00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:27,840
Speaker 3: Hinge because he was someone who I was kind of

491
00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:30,240
Speaker 3: watching from Afar at the end of last year. Never

492
00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:32,800
Speaker 3: enough to bring him in, but I was just interested

493
00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,800
Speaker 3: in his scoring capacity and he did pretty well at

494
00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:37,000
Speaker 3: the end of last year. I don't have the exact

495
00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,520
Speaker 3: numbers in front of me, but if Isaac Cumming was

496
00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:42,680
Speaker 3: to assume that role, then I would be interested. I

497
00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:44,040
Speaker 3: think it's just another one of those ones where it's

498
00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:45,720
Speaker 3: a bit of a preseason what's just to see exactly

499
00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:48,240
Speaker 3: where they'll put him. Hopefully they won't move him around,

500
00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,040
Speaker 3: but you know, it's Nick, so yeah.

501
00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:51,520
Speaker 2: We'll see no.

502
00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:55,640
Speaker 1: Hinge averaged ninety three point five this year, so yeah, yeah,

503
00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:56,880
Speaker 1: I mean I guess he's he's going to be there.

504
00:21:56,880 --> 00:22:00,200
Speaker 1: But yeah, the role, as we know is good. You know,

505
00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,920
Speaker 1: pretty much had any team. So yeah, he's on the

506
00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,040
Speaker 1: watch list for me. Now would you put these guys

507
00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:07,280
Speaker 1: on the watch list? Their producers chucked him in here

508
00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,720
Speaker 1: on the maybe pile, but I'm not so sure. I mean,

509
00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:15,600
Speaker 1: Liam Baker to West Coast. As you know, Richmond fans

510
00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:17,880
Speaker 1: absolutely love Li and Baker, and I think West Coast

511
00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:19,760
Speaker 1: fans will will soon, So they're not huge fans of

512
00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:21,920
Speaker 1: him right now. By the sounds of it, but more

513
00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,440
Speaker 1: to do with the list management strategy than anything Bakes

514
00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:26,359
Speaker 1: has done. I think pretty hache to walk straight into that,

515
00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,440
Speaker 1: I think, and you first day of the club Luke

516
00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,760
Speaker 1: Park at the North definitely you would think opportunities but

517
00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:34,440
Speaker 1: probably not gonna be super cheap. And the other one here,

518
00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:36,720
Speaker 1: maybe Chloe you could speak to because I know is

519
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,600
Speaker 1: one of your favorites. Talk about moaning about all my

520
00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:44,240
Speaker 1: Richmond favorites leaving, but Matt Kennedy leaving Carlton and he's

521
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,440
Speaker 1: gone to the Bulldogs replacing Jack McRae. Maybe, Yeah.

522
00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:49,359
Speaker 3: It was a bit of a sad, sad time yesterday.

523
00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,320
Speaker 3: I actually threw my phone away for the last hour

524
00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:53,399
Speaker 3: of the trade period, hoping that it wouldn't get done.

525
00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:55,320
Speaker 3: But deep down I knew that it would get done,

526
00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,080
Speaker 3: just because I knew that they'd get Jack mccrade a

527
00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,359
Speaker 3: the Saints. So I checked and it was about I

528
00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,000
Speaker 3: think it was a minute past seven point thirty. I

529
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:01,960
Speaker 3: saw that it had come through.

530
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,280
Speaker 1: But that's too late they can Yeah, that's.

531
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know, terrible for me as a cart

532
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:09,280
Speaker 3: and supporter. I get what they're trying to do, but

533
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 3: in terms of super coach, I'm sniffing a bit of

534
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:15,199
Speaker 3: an opportunity. I'm not sure yet whether I'll go there.

535
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,199
Speaker 3: It depends how everything pans out. With rookies, it's that

536
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:20,640
Speaker 3: awkward price point potentially mid four hundred K, but there

537
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:24,760
Speaker 3: is that potential forward eligibility as well. I did have

538
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,960
Speaker 3: a couple of numbers in front of me too, so

539
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,880
Speaker 3: we've got I don't know. I guess it does depend

540
00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,399
Speaker 3: on his role as well. Right, so at the end

541
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:35,440
Speaker 3: of last year, round fifteen he got one hundred and

542
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 3: sixteen with twenty seven cbas and round nineteen one hundred

543
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,719
Speaker 3: and twenty with seventeen CBAS. I will note as well

544
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,560
Speaker 3: that Round fifteen, Game eight right contests.

545
00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:52,639
Speaker 2: Luke Beveridge just eyebrows.

546
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:52,879
Speaker 3: And another consistent theme in these numbers was just a

547
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,000
Speaker 3: lot of score involvement. So it will be interesting to

548
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:58,400
Speaker 3: see how the Dogs plan to use him, whether they

549
00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:00,679
Speaker 3: use him in a McCray roll, which would be disappointing

550
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,439
Speaker 3: for him because that was kind of his role at Carton.

551
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 1: They pressed out of the midfield.

552
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,720
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, but if I'm not quite sure what they're

553
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 3: going to do, whether they're looking to maybe give him

554
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 3: some more minutes instead of Liver in the middle potentially

555
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 3: or you know, BoNT likes to spend a lot more

556
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,159
Speaker 3: time forward than someone like a Crips would, so he

557
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 3: might get his opportunity there. And I think if he

558
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 3: does get the opportunity, I personally rate him quite high.

559
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 3: I am a can't support it, but as sort of

560
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:27,399
Speaker 3: that clearance midfielder, I would back him in to be

561
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,119
Speaker 3: able to produce a pretty decent score. So, especially at

562
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 3: that price point as well, I would say it's worth

563
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:32,920
Speaker 3: of consideration.

564
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:36,159
Speaker 1: But you know, he has a game that he can score.

565
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:38,440
Speaker 1: It's just yeah, does he get the opportunity, does he

566
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 1: get the role? I mean the big one for us,

567
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,480
Speaker 1: does he get forward eligibility? Because if he's been four

568
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,160
Speaker 1: that's the eighty k in the midfield, you wouldn't go there,

569
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:48,879
Speaker 1: but midfield, yeah, you could consider it. So he was

570
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 1: the sub four times this year twenty twenty two is

571
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:52,959
Speaker 1: his sort of career best season average ninety seven, So

572
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 1: I mean if he got that out of a forward

573
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:55,879
Speaker 1: for that sort of price.

574
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, And again, you know we've been speaking about a

575
00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,400
Speaker 2: lot of those weird like mid prices in the for mine,

576
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 2: can you pick six of them like we'll have to

577
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 2: give on some of them. And yeah, Kennedy sounds like

578
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 2: he's in that weird bebo limbo, which might work against him.

579
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:13,160
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean if he if say someone goes

580
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 2: down with a big injury, then he probably will be

581
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 2: the next man something.

582
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly that.

583
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 2: That's unless you know, adjacent to him, Riley Sanders will

584
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 2: be want to be watching very closely in the trade

585
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 2: period with those players moving out, with McCrae leaving, with

586
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 2: Daniel leaving with obviously Smith didn't play this year, but

587
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:35,240
Speaker 2: there's obviously, you know, certainly space for someone else to

588
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 2: step up. And Sanders, you know, if he keeps that

589
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,200
Speaker 2: forward eligibility. I don't know where he played in the

590
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:41,919
Speaker 2: VFL O dubt it would be in the middle, but

591
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:44,119
Speaker 2: our dad it would be forward.

592
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 1: But yeah, bring up some insane Yeah, Stat's in the

593
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 1: VFL was mcrat what's the end of the year, So.

594
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:52,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, he'd be, you know, the next man up at

595
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 2: the dogs are the ones I'd be I'd be very

596
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 2: interested in.

597
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:56,920
Speaker 1: And I mean the other thing we should know to

598
00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:00,600
Speaker 1: is some of these guys like a Kennedy or coming

599
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 1: if you can't quite get yourself to spend the money

600
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 1: to put them, take the risk in classic. They're really

601
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 1: guys he should be considering in drafts. Oh absolutely, Like

602
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 1: if you get them as your sort of third forward

603
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,199
Speaker 1: or something, Yeah, third defender, you'd be in a pretty good position.

604
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think. Yeah, Liam Baker, I think if he's

605
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 2: you know, defense forward this year, if he keeps one

606
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 2: of those going to be mid forward, I'll certainly have

607
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 2: a look at him, depending on price, depending on roll.

608
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:30,679
Speaker 2: If he's he spoke on SCNWA just after the trade

609
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,440
Speaker 2: that he wanted to play down back and that would

610
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 2: be his preferred position. Obviously, him and Minnie McWalter have

611
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 2: a really good relationship, so I imagine there'd be some synergy

612
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 2: there that he'd either be down back and then maybe

613
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 2: switching into the midfield, maybe like swapping with a Reuben

614
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:45,919
Speaker 2: Gimbi or someone like that. So I think there's certainly

615
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 2: scope for him to score reasonably well. But whether or

616
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 2: not that you know, that level outperforms his price point.

617
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:56,120
Speaker 1: I guess the one thing way for him is he's

618
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:59,680
Speaker 1: never settled in one position because he's so good at

619
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 1: plugging holes everywhere. But if he did actually just get

620
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 1: you know, they decided, well, you're going to be our

621
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 1: guy off half back and use him there.

622
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 3: Maybe I guess it's probably similar to Kennedy in that

623
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 3: sense where you know, the last few years both of

624
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 3: them have kind of been plugging holes. So if they

625
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 3: can nail down a role, then they would definitely both

626
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,440
Speaker 3: be on the watch list and great draft shouts as well.

627
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:23,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, Luke Parker I think is one to keep an

628
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 2: eye on for you if he gets full eligibility, which

629
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 2: I think he will, which mid even mid season, if

630
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 2: you know, watch him for the first six rounds he's

631
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,119
Speaker 2: playing off half forward, playing a link up role. Maybe

632
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 2: he's someone we look at when the DPPs kick in,

633
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 2: but or even if they kick in beforehand. Yeah, I'm

634
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 2: very intrigued there.

635
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just yeah, Unfortunately he's not going to be

636
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,400
Speaker 1: super cheap because he started this year fairly expensive, yes,

637
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:49,880
Speaker 1: and then he was injured and you know, didn't play

638
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 1: a lot.

639
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,679
Speaker 2: Although seven games, Yeah, discount for only playing seven games.

640
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:58,919
Speaker 2: We'll find out when they encounters release the number of

641
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:03,440
Speaker 2: beans worth. Maybe he could be under four hundred thousand beans.

642
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,680
Speaker 2: That would be cheap beans.

643
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,399
Speaker 1: Will we give you Anye that for sure? Now, the

644
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 1: next category we've got is likely awkward price but could

645
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 1: have potential. So which is like this is peak draft, Like, yeah,

646
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 1: that's right.

647
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:21,679
Speaker 2: Whoop on these guys. But for classic I don't know.

648
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,400
Speaker 1: Daniel Reoli, Well, yeah he's talking about draft thing. He's

649
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 1: got great shout for draft. You know, you know for

650
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 1: those absolute top tier defenders has gone. He's sort of

651
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 1: definitely in that next little bracket underneath him, and he's

652
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 1: average nineties basically just low nineties the last two or

653
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:38,959
Speaker 1: three years. Can he get that up to around three figures?

654
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 1: I actually, you know, obviously, again we talk about we're

655
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:45,239
Speaker 1: all biased, and I'm a big Daniel really fan as

656
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 1: a Richmond supporter, and I'm happy to see him leave.

657
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 1: Obviously we've got something good for him, so that's great,

658
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 1: but good things for him, Yeah we did. Yeah, I

659
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 1: think I've read somewhere about Goes just giving away high

660
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 1: draft picks.

661
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 2: They're playing a different game, so like you get.

662
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 3: You get a cut.

663
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, obviously Dim is a big fan

664
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 1: and if he gets I think he will be great

665
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 1: for Gold Coast. So from their point of view, that's

666
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 1: one another reason why maybe you know they were prepared

667
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 1: to play out. But obviously there's other factors are going

668
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 1: to that as well, but in terms of where the

669
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 1: club is at, and you know, they obviously just getting

670
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 1: picks and academy kids every year, but it's on stage

671
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 1: you and certainly I think we're hard week is that

672
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 1: wants to put some performances on the field, and I

673
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 1: think there's a role there clearly for him. And you

674
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 1: think who played there this year, and it's the likes

675
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 1: of Alex Sexton, who actually scored alright in Super Coach.

676
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 2: He win patches, he was fine. I just think he's neat.

677
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 1: But if he can score, surely dan Rioli is a

678
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 1: big upgrade on Alex Sexton for Gold Coast sort of

679
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 1: half back free wheeling.

680
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 2: Understatement of Dan Rioli is an upgrade on Alex Sexton. Yeah,

681
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 2: I mean for a non bias take. Chloe, are you interested?

682
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 3: I am interested, Yeah, just because that role is so

683
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 3: obviously there. I mean it does depend on the price.

684
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's the thing. He's not. He's not

685
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 1: going to be Super Chip.

686
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know, he might be one of those

687
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 3: players that I might not start, but I might be

688
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 3: keeping an eye on before his first price rise to

689
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 3: quickly pivot to if I get the chance.

690
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 1: But he's like the Jordan Clark of this year or

691
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 1: something like that. Started it wasn't super cheap to start

692
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 1: the year, but you know, the value became obvious as

693
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 1: we don't see.

694
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 2: Him finishing as a like a top three defender. But

695
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 2: maybe he's in that sixty weight range.

696
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, he might finish as the top three.

697
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe, I certainly don't.

698
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 3: I guess it does depend how he adapts to the

699
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 3: role and the lifestyle change pretty much pretty much everything.

700
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 3: I'm sure he'll he'll fit in pretty seamlessly, especially with

701
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 3: Dimmer there. But you know, playing at people first more

702
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 3: often when he's used to the g.

703
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, to look up maybe what he's scoring is like

704
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 1: when he has gone up there. But another name in

705
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 1: this little bracket that I actually am quite interested in again,

706
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 1: Chloe will go to you as a Calvin expert. Where

707
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 1: do you think Nick Haynes, I mean, is he even

708
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 1: in the best twenty three? Because if he is, I

709
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 1: mean he said one sort of premo super coach season

710
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 1: there was back in twenty twenty when he averaged ninety eight.

711
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 1: He's been more around the seventies sort of since then.

712
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 1: This year averaged sixty nine in eight games, and he

713
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 1: was one of those. But in the VFL he was

714
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 1: putting up unbelievable numbers averaged thirty one disposals, nine intercepts,

715
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,479
Speaker 1: and one hundred and thirty super Coach points. So Carlin,

716
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 1: obviously we're looking for some tall defenders. Does he play

717
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 1: regularly and you know, can he be that sort of

718
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 1: floating interceptor where we know he can actually score a

719
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 1: right I think.

720
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 3: Whether or not he plays regularly is a bit down

721
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 3: to how Mitch McGovern's body holds up next year. I

722
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 3: think that they probably pick Gov over him in the

723
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 3: starting lineup, and then obviously Nick Newman also plays that

724
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 3: sort of distributor role. It does depend what they want

725
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 3: to do with their game plan as well, because towards

726
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 3: the end of the year everything was looking quite stagnant

727
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 3: long down the line. So maybe they've brought in Nick

728
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 3: Haynes to shake that up a bit. And if that

729
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 3: is the case, then they'll put him, they'll start him

730
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 3: if they're looking for that change there. But personally, I

731
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 3: would say, as it stands at the moment, I don't

732
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 3: think he would be in the best twenty three. But

733
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 3: if that happy to be proven wrong. And also, yeah,

734
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,239
Speaker 3: well if the Brody Camp trade had gone through, then

735
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 3: you'd be starting Nickaynes, right, But yeah, I think they're

736
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 3: pretty keen on continuing to develop Camp as well, So

737
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 3: I would say no for now, but it definitely is

738
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 3: something that i'd be watching personally and for super Coach

739
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 3: in the preseason.

740
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's on the watch list. But yeah, again, it's

741
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 1: probably sort of three hundred and fifty k type prices.

742
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 2: If I'm going around that price, I might stump up

743
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 2: a little bit more for Harry Perryman me too.

744
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you think of pyramid? Because it mustn't

745
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 1: mean I was pretty surprised when Giants got picked sixteen

746
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 1: for him, and Colin obviously was prepared to give a

747
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: lot of money nine hundred thousand beans a year. Man

748
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 1: loves beans.

749
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know. They've said they're going to

750
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 2: play in midfield, and if he's four hundred k, I'm

751
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 2: playing midfield to Collin would like he can't be scoring

752
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 2: terribly even if he's kind of a you know, you

753
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 2: don't bring someone in on that much money and then

754
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 2: like play them off half forward switching field.

755
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 3: Do you thack Williams, M.

756
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, super coach.

757
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 3: I was just saying we're paying him eight hundred thousand dollars.

758
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 2: Also, like if he leaves the Ford fifty, his hamstring

759
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 2: is just a erupt So I feel like that's the

760
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 2: bigger factor. Yeah, but yeah, I don't know. I'm very

761
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 2: keen on I'm very keen.

762
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 3: Just because of that defensive eligibility. If you can get

763
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 3: someone around for four hundred k and they're a defender

764
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 3: and they're playing mid you know that, supercoach gold. So

765
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 3: I think I'm interested. I'll just make sure the roll's there.

766
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, certainly, Yeah, watching the c but I'm yeah.

767
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I must have been. I don't know. Heaps about

768
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 1: Harry per remember I will be.

769
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 2: I don't know, bar, but.

770
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 3: I just thought defense four hundred k roll and I thought,

771
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 3: you know what, I'm considering that.

772
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 2: Sign me up?

773
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, I mean the Collingwood midfield, there's there's opportunities there,

774
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 1: you would think, because I mean, you've got Nick Dakos

775
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 1: is probably a permanent midfielder now. But apart from him,

776
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 1: you know, they've got Pendles anxiety and these guys who

777
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 1: were probably the yeah, I mean Mitchell still Mitchell.

778
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 2: He's on the list they had had to go.

779
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 3: A lot of them are kind of asterisk at the moment,

780
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 3: I would say in terms of Chris five, Look, Chris.

781
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 2: Even though like a Finn McCrae is still like you

782
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 2: know it, hasn't hasn't stamped himself as a first choice.

783
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,840
Speaker 2: There they like it Alan, but surely he's not a

784
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 2: starting mid unless he tears it up.

785
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think they're playing Finn McCrae nine hundred beans.

786
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, he's on nine hundred, which is why he's

787
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 1: not quiet not quite there.

788
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I don't know. I'm interested in him,

789
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 2: and I'm also kind of I'm definitely from a draft perspective,

790
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 2: but also maybe Alex Neil Bullen like he was overall.

791
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,319
Speaker 1: No, that's that's the key step for him, isn't it. Yeah,

792
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,399
Speaker 1: that one caught me by surprise. Eighth for total points

793
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:55,839
Speaker 1: in the fourth line this year. And when you take

794
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:59,319
Speaker 1: out we've already mentioned Aeni and Flanders and all these

795
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 1: guys that bumps him up the list, then we might

796
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 1: get a few forwards coming in, which would be nice.

797
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,800
Speaker 1: But yeah, you probably have to consider him, especially in draft.

798
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, absolutely, in draft. And I think the fact

799
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 2: that he doesn't miss many games, you know, kind of

800
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 2: quite kind of unassuming, he might slide back a bit. Yeah.

801
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 2: I mean again, I think he's neat. I just think

802
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 2: he's neat. You know, Melbourne fans love him. Does a

803
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 2: lot of the stuff that is unrewarded on a stat

804
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:28,760
Speaker 2: sheet and doesn't quite come up, you know, it doesn't

805
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 2: listen to the best, doesn't get brad Low votes. But yeah,

806
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:35,919
Speaker 2: just a very good player playing a very difficult role.

807
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,720
Speaker 3: If you had to pick, though, would you pick Nielball

808
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 3: and not Peteling Petling?

809
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Neil Ball and it. Yeah, I do

810
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 1: like him as a player, but I think, yeah, maybe

811
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 1: he'd be for draft. I think for me, just because

812
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 1: I think you have that saying. Well, I mean we've

813
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 1: talked about a few times, but Adelaide will definitely be

814
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:54,800
Speaker 1: one of the teams to watch in the preseason. But

815
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 1: I think he will slot in probably in that same

816
00:35:57,719 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 1: role that he had of Melbourne, where he's mostly forward

817
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 1: and you know he can go up the ground and

818
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,959
Speaker 1: give him that real sort of a bit of pace

819
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 1: around that forward half, and then maybe he frees up

820
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 1: a ranking to go into the midfield more of that

821
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 1: kind of thing. So again that's sort of some of

822
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 1: those flow and effects that you were talking about. So yeah,

823
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 1: I mean Adelaide Matthew Nix is going to be a

824
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 1: lot of attention on what they do next year, so

825
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 1: hopefully they help us out in super coach.

826
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,360
Speaker 2: Is Jack Graham best twenty three at West Coast?

827
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 1: He thinks, so if they're playing him some beans and

828
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 1: didn't they to get him a role not a.

829
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 2: Huge amount of beans. And he's also like you dealist,

830
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 2: free agent, wanted to go home like he's fine, but

831
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 2: also they need they drastically need Waffle help as well.

832
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 1: So I think that you have the MIDI mcqualtera the

833
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,839
Speaker 1: link there probably sees what he did someone else. This

834
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: isn't my original take, but made the good point that

835
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 1: even though Jack Graham is you know, he's not a

836
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 1: superstar by any stretch, and you know he hasn't won

837
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 1: too many Best and Fairest, but every time he was

838
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 1: available he played for Richmond like hen when he was injured,

839
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 1: he just come straight back into the team. I think

840
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 1: the coaches obviously all saw something in him that maybe

841
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 1: the rest of us stone and it's just I think

842
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 1: that huge tank that he's got that you can just

843
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 1: run all day and just sort of just give you

844
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 1: that one hundred percent effort, which McCord must value. And

845
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 1: I think he'll be all right at West Coast, probably

846
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,879
Speaker 1: enjoy playing it op the stadium over there.

847
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 2: Bring a tank with it, like a swill trend caterpillars

848
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:23,800
Speaker 2: like on the football fields. There's no rules against that

849
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 2: says a dog can't play.

850
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 1: For But yeah, I don't think. I don't think he's

851
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 1: a super coach pick for us, So that just leaves

852
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:31,439
Speaker 1: I mean, it still leaves plenty of other names because

853
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 1: a lot happened in the end. Anyone else here that

854
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 1: you like. The one that I must say I did

855
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 1: actually look up his numbers was Harry Sharp. I just

856
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 1: thought if he's sort of rookie price, and he's probably

857
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 1: not going to be a bargain rookie price, but you know,

858
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 1: he might be finishing at hundred and eighty four K,

859
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 1: so hopefully he might be a little bit cheaper than that.

860
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,720
Speaker 1: It just obviously depends if he gets games for Melbourne,

861
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 1: but if Melbourne have a role there for him. He

862
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 1: played six games this year. Three is the sub so

863
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 1: that obviously affected his average and his price and everything.

864
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 1: Averaged ninety two in the VFL. I mean he's a

865
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 1: wing flankers sort of type, so he's not going to

866
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 1: put up massive numbers. But I thought Caleb Windsor at

867
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 1: the start of this year, I didn't pick him because

868
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 1: he was under in eighty K. I thought he's playing

869
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 1: on the wing. You know, you're not going to score

870
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 1: many points. Yeah, everaged sixty four over the first nine

871
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 1: rounds and made one hundred and seventy grand. So could

872
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 1: Harry do something like that?

873
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 2: I mean maybe, But also you know we're looking at

874
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 2: one of the best drafts in history, so you know,

875
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 2: you stack him up, you're stuck him up next to

876
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 2: Jacobs Smith, Like, I'm Jackos Smith.

877
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 1: Well in Melbourne has two top ten picks, are they yeap,

878
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 1: So that's probaly I have Caleb Windsor, yeah, I mean

879
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 1: that's the other thing. They've got Winsor and the Langda

880
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 1: is still there. So yeah, we're just show up exactly fit in.

881
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 2: I mean they had the last player they brought him

882
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 2: for Brisbane, who we were very sure was going to

883
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 2: get gamed home was Tom Fulton. Who does he exist?

884
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,800
Speaker 2: I don't know, yeah, I mean I think in the

885
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:00,880
Speaker 2: same vein. Jacob Constanty is obviously a watch from North.

886
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:04,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wasn't familiar with his existence today.

887
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 2: He's a forward, was a first round, very late first

888
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 2: round draft pick a few years ago. The fact that

889
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 2: the Ruse want him is maybe something with.

890
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 1: Jade Rowlings to see the list guy, and he's said

891
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 1: at the end of the trade period that he'll be

892
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 1: like best twenty three.

893
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 2: Okay, well he'll be rookie priced. So you know, if

894
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 2: he's forward, then certainly one that I'll be watching.

895
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 1: What about Jake Stringer? Patch one of you about what.

896
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 2: About Jake Stringer? I don't know who that is? Never

897
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 2: heard of him. I mean he's not not in draft,

898
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 2: not in like a dynasty league where you've got forty

899
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 2: six players in every list. I'm not I don't care.

900
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:46,840
Speaker 2: He'll be like he'll be good from a football perspective,

901
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:50,799
Speaker 2: from a fantasy perspective, I'm sure you know what you're

902
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 2: going to get from Jake Stringer. He's going to be

903
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 2: the same same as it ever was, same as he

904
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 2: ever was.

905
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,240
Speaker 1: Not the new Jesse Hogan.

906
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 2: I doubt it, but I have not Look, I don't know,

907
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 2: man I stopped spending mental energy on Jack Stringer.

908
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 1: Oh, let's say another big name. Chloe matt oways.

909
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 3: It's painful. I'm not gonna lie it's painful, But I

910
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,879
Speaker 3: would not say he has any super coach relevance unfortunately,

911
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,720
Speaker 3: although I do wish him the best over in the West.

912
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, some of these other names are Jack Darling,

913
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 1: just though in any universe. I mean, he's put down

914
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 1: Tom Campbell here and there. Surely I suppose if.

915
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 3: Put down Tom Campbell under irrelevant.

916
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 1: Yeah he did, that's true, and Eliitimilberg, which I forgot happened,

917
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:43,320
Speaker 1: but you mentioned, Yeah, Tom Campbell's really I mean, obviously

918
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 1: he would be aware of the fact, no slote on

919
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 1: Tom that he's behind Mexican in the IQ at Melbourne.

920
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 1: But Max is getting on a little bit and the

921
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 1: long season does tend to wear on him a bit.

922
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 1: So maybe if if something happened in and he got

923
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 1: his chance, I mean, he scores well in the VFL.

924
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 3: I don't mind it as a list option for Melbourne,

925
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:07,720
Speaker 3: so especially after what happened this year, he could definitely

926
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 3: come in and play a role when necessary. So I

927
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 3: guess it's you know, it's all hypothetical, but if he

928
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 3: was to play a role for a longer period of time,

929
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 3: then maybe you could bring him in for a bit

930
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 3: of a cash grab. But apart from that, I probably wouldn't.

931
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 2: Sep any quick fire any interest in Joe Richards.

932
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 1: No, no, miss missed him this year, so I'm not

933
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 1: going to go back John Noble, No, No.

934
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 2: Rory at Actually I picked I think forty one minutes

935
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 2: and forty seconds without talking about Rory Atkins.

936
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 1: Hading for about six weeks or something in the middle

937
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 1: of the year last year, and he was six weeks

938
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 1: of your life. I mean, just I just think Roy

939
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:52,280
Speaker 1: Akins has done an amazing job to make a career

940
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 1: as an AFL footballer. Now to get another year. I

941
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,320
Speaker 1: think he's on four hundred thousand or something.

942
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 2: With that, with like the handicap of not being too

943
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 2: meters tall, Like if you know Tom Campbell has had

944
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 2: a what ten year career, played forty games. Roy Atkins

945
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 2: has done the same thing, but he's not very tall

946
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 2: and large. Like incredible hats off, But I think it

947
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:17,720
Speaker 2: really said at all when Port Adelaide's head a football

948
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 2: it was like, oh, we've brought in two people that

949
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:20,799
Speaker 2: you know two players we think can really make an

950
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 2: impact in our Best twenty two and he was not

951
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,399
Speaker 2: very Atkins was not one of those two. He said,

952
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 2: you know, we need more sound for depth, and we

953
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 2: need more for them. He's a great character, and I'm like,

954
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 2: let's just cross him off at least.

955
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean only the other ones that we haven't

956
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 1: mentioned was I don't think you would consider either of

957
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 1: them in Super Coaches, Josh Battle and Tom Barress. But

958
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 1: we did talk earlier a little bit about the opportunities

959
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 1: that trades can create for other players. Does that make

960
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 1: James Cicily suddenly very relevant? If you've got two pretty

961
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 1: good key stoppers down back coming in, you can take

962
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 1: that full back, you know, binding role, and Sicily can

963
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:01,399
Speaker 1: just float around doing his intercepting thing.

964
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 3: I'm not sure it's part of me. I could be

965
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 3: way off here. I feel like they might playing forward

966
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:07,919
Speaker 3: because they'll have Sam Frost back there.

967
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 2: I was about to say the same thing, there were

968
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 2: too many defenders. That makes me more scared to Sicily

969
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 2: than I was this year, even knowing that he would

970
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:18,320
Speaker 2: be key back and then they'd swing him forward to

971
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 2: try and win a game. Like I don't want to

972
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 2: bar of him.

973
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 3: Because I think it's just a bit too uncertain for me.

974
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 2: Ye, even if you know they've got hardware you can

975
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 2: play forward and back, it might be a match up

976
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 2: thing where like they've got to they're coming up against

977
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 2: the Bulldogs just Sicily plays back, Hardwick plays forward, and

978
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 2: then the next week they're coming up against you know,

979
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:39,800
Speaker 2: a smaller forward line and then they just switch the

980
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 2: rolls around like yeah, no, I'd need to see it.

981
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 3: They've got plenty of options, which is great for them,

982
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 3: but not great for super coach. You don't really want

983
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 3: to pick someone who has who is a part of

984
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 3: a team that has options and moving parts. There's a bit.

985
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:56,720
Speaker 2: Bulldogs like, yeah, I want certainty in my super coach players,

986
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 2: and that's not what we're going to get from.

987
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 1: So mean, who is actually like surprisingly good at that

988
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 1: role When it was used a few times this year

989
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 1: to go forward and win a game virtually he did

990
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 1: it two or three times. Yeah, he's a good football

991
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 1: that's probably that's not good for us though, because then

992
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:13,720
Speaker 1: once he started thinking of doing that on a more

993
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:16,360
Speaker 1: long term sort of basis, playing him there for a

994
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 1: whole game or half a game, that's when it's a I.

995
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 3: Think the good for a bit of a score spike

996
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,320
Speaker 3: with a goal, but not for a long term period.

997
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I certainly think the role he had this

998
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 2: year was very good in that he knew he was

999
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 2: down back and then might go forward and get yeah,

1000
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 2: that massive spike. But yeah, no, I'm not interested.

1001
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 3: I did just have a thought while we're talking about

1002
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 3: sort of I have hit help or hinder down here

1003
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 3: while we're talking about that. I thought of it while

1004
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 3: we're talking about Roory Atkins. And then there's obviously the

1005
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:49,879
Speaker 3: exit of Houston. I mean, now it kind of bringing

1006
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 3: up irrelevant names, But what do you think if Jase

1007
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 3: bergwin in that role.

1008
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 2: For next year? I quite like Jase Berg, and I

1009
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:58,840
Speaker 2: nearly brought him in the season just gone at that

1010
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 2: point where he just was about to pop, and I'm like,

1011
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 2: I now bringing Matt Rowel instead, and I reckon Berg

1012
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 2: going outscored owl on the run home.

1013
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:09,959
Speaker 3: Because they've got Bergwen, they've got Logan Evans.

1014
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 1: Your favorite Kane Farrell's when I was singing.

1015
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 2: Caane Farrell when they have a monopoly on kickouts, which

1016
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:19,879
Speaker 2: really interests me, especially from a draft perspective. Problemly, yeah,

1017
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 2: I'd need to see it. But it's certainly there's a

1018
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:25,280
Speaker 2: void of significance back there that I think is certainly

1019
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 2: you're worth keeping an eye on.

1020
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, one hundred percent. There are any other teams that

1021
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,799
Speaker 1: we've we should be thinking about that kind of thing.

1022
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:36,840
Speaker 2: Intrigued by North Melbourne, how they structure up with you know,

1023
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 2: some new players in with some young talent that are

1024
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 2: all justling for midfield time. You know, she's obviously in

1025
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 2: their wedd does mkirchher play. You know they've traditionally always

1026
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 2: played two half backs. You suspect Fisher is not going

1027
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 2: to be one of them if they have literally any

1028
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 2: other options. But they've got like Josh Goder as well,

1029
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:59,879
Speaker 2: who's highly touted, did his achilles last year. He's someone

1030
00:45:59,920 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 2: I began to look out. If Bradon George gets a

1031
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 2: run at it as a forward, he'd be rookie prized.

1032
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:08,280
Speaker 2: I'd be really intrigued by that. Tristan Cherry as well,

1033
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:11,840
Speaker 2: you know, someone would be considering in the ruck. I

1034
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 2: think North Melbourn will be very interesting from a super

1035
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 2: coach perspective. Jack Darling obviously, I mean without saying I

1036
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 2: didn't need to bring him up. Yeah, I'm intrigued by

1037
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:25,839
Speaker 2: how they how they set up, and we'll be keeping

1038
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:26,399
Speaker 2: an eye on it.

1039
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 1: And I mean the other one obviously is talking about

1040
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 1: a void of significance. I mean Richmond. Oh yeah, the

1041
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:34,839
Speaker 1: whole road is basically a void at a moment. So

1042
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 1: somebody is going to play and we'll find out, maybe

1043
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 1: in around draft Knight, who will actually be playing for

1044
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 1: Richmond next year. So there will be plenty of names

1045
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 1: there that you would think we're come in cheap and

1046
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 1: we'll get opportunities. I mean we're talking about, you know,

1047
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 1: Richmond as the best hands since at the draft, since

1048
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 1: you know expansion clubs, and remember those days when we

1049
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:56,760
Speaker 1: picked all those Gold Coast kids and all those Giants kids.

1050
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 1: I mean, one thing to bear in mind is that

1051
00:46:58,080 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 1: they lost a lot of games by a lot of

1052
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 1: points and often didn't score that well.

1053
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 2: Yes, or if they draft defenders, then if they draft

1054
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:08,319
Speaker 2: forward I don't know him, never heard of him, but.

1055
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:09,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I mean that'll be an interesting question whether

1056
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 1: you pay up for some of these really high draft

1057
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:13,319
Speaker 1: picks when they're going to be playing what we think

1058
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 1: will be a pretty bad team. But yeah, I mean

1059
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 1: they're gonna get games. I think it's fair to say.

1060
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 3: I have a question for you, l what are your

1061
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 3: thoughts on Tom Lynch, whether it be for draft or classic.

1062
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 1: I mean, he'll be cheap. Again we talk about forwards,

1063
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 1: He'll be very cheap. It could be like two hundred grand.

1064
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:34,919
Speaker 1: So it's going to beat this time last year. I said,

1065
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 1: you know that five if you wouldn't get in a

1066
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 1: million years, and then of course I picked him and

1067
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 1: it blew up in my face again, So I should

1068
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:43,800
Speaker 1: learned from that. So I mean, probably not key forwards

1069
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:46,800
Speaker 1: who always injured. It probably not a great recipe for

1070
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 1: Supercotes success. But I mean he has put up some

1071
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 1: massive scores in the past, but that was a few

1072
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 1: years ago now, and yeah, just so injury prone. I mean,

1073
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 1: if you can actually string some games together, I'd just

1074
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 1: be really have for a Richmond fans point of view.

1075
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 1: So I think I'll put a line through him. But

1076
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 1: you know, as you say, never saying everything, he just

1077
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 1: had a red hot preseason and stormed into a round zero.

1078
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:11,879
Speaker 2: He said never all of last preseason and then had

1079
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:15,800
Speaker 2: him right up until he So I do not believe

1080
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Speaker 2: you at all.

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Speaker 1: Well, as I said, someone has to play for Richmond,

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Speaker 1: so they might have to wheel him out.

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Speaker 2: Yep, bring him out with some crutches, and you know,

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Speaker 2: still still might still might be something might be worth it.

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Speaker 3: Another person who I have down here who could be

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00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:34,360
Speaker 3: impacted by the arrival of a new player, by the

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Speaker 3: arrival of Bailey Smith to Geelong, more specifically Jack Bows

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Speaker 3: So he finished the year with seventy seven one oh

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Speaker 3: five one thirty in Supercoach, currently priced at around four

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00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:46,839
Speaker 3: hundred and twenty. I was considering him as a bit

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Speaker 3: of a value option. But how do you think that

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Speaker 3: affects him.

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Speaker 1: I think he's sort of draft only. I mean, what

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00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 1: about Max Holmes who finished the year he was really

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00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 1: a primo and became from their best mid.

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Speaker 3: One of the better value picks.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but he won't be yees much value next year.

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Speaker 2: If he's defensive, then I'll have a look. But I

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Speaker 2: think if he's mid only, I'd be pretty hard pressed.

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Speaker 2: I think it'll be very much a guns and rookies

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Speaker 2: set up in the middle next year, possibly with heavy

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Speaker 2: emphasis on rookies.

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Speaker 3: I should probably learn from that. I went into heavy

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Speaker 3: on value last year and it didn't work out.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's hard to know. We haven't seen the

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Speaker 2: prices yet. They will start filtering through from the bean

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Speaker 2: counters hopefully shortly, hopefully just after the draft, and we'll

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Speaker 2: have some fun news around positions and prices then hopefully

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00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 2: to keep an eye on Coach absolutely and all of that.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't know, it's hard to really look

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Speaker 2: at it too closely. Yeah, as I mentioned before, Bulldogs

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Speaker 2: is someone I'm interested in. If Mat Kennedy starts playing

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00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 2: in the ruck, then sign me up.

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Speaker 3: Hit out, Smash.

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Speaker 2: Back the Ruck, Smash.

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Speaker 1: That's good shared. So yeah, as you said, well, we'll

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Speaker 1: be all over there the draft where we get together

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Speaker 1: for another one of these in a few weeks time

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Speaker 1: and talk about some of those kids, and you know,

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Speaker 1: obviously rookies are so important in Super Coach, and then

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Speaker 1: we will have the prices and the positions. When they

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Speaker 1: first came out, these you'll hear them first on the podcast.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, we'll be planning a lot more of these

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Speaker 1: over the preseason, and then you know, once we get

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Speaker 1: into actual twenty twenty five, we'll be rolling them out

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Speaker 1: pretty consistently. So Patch, I've appreciated your time after such

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Speaker 1: a hectic teen days. I think we can just have

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Speaker 1: a little little lie.

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Speaker 2: Down playdown for all of a few weeks, and then

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Speaker 2: the draft happens and kicks into gear. No, thank you all.

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Speaker 2: It's been a pleasure, and Chloe, we've been great having

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Speaker 2: you on board.

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Speaker 1: That excellent first up performance.

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Speaker 3: Happy to be here. I'm excited to jump on a

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Speaker 3: few more pods in the foreseeable future.

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Speaker 2: Dean Polo esque debut from you, I.

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Speaker 1: Think a lot more promise for the career going forward, hopefully.

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Speaker 1: Thank you everybody for listening. Subscribe to follow Wherever you

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Speaker 1: listen to your podcast, leave a rating and review, and

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Speaker 1: we'll have plenty more coming up over the off season.