WEBVTT - Ask Us (Literally) Anything

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<v Speaker 1>We would like to acknowledge the traditional custodians of the

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<v Speaker 1>land that this podcast is recorded on.

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<v Speaker 2>Happy school holidays, DLs. Happy for some, hell for others. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I hope you're thriving and not surviving. Props surviving. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>be real. Let's be real. I don't think I ever

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<v Speaker 2>hear a parent go. Thriving. Just thriving. Thriving in motherhood.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, whatever your school halls looks like, hope it's manageable.

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<v Speaker 2>Hope you're keeping your head above water.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I provide a hack for school holidays? I have

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<v Speaker 1>a cupboard in my house where I keep like activities

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<v Speaker 1>like craft activities or like little novelty toys and squishies

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff. And I only go into that cupboard when

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<v Speaker 1>I'm desperate, when the kids are like crazy or when

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<v Speaker 1>I have a bunch of washing to do and I

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<v Speaker 1>can't give them time, attention, whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's my school holiday cupboard.

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<v Speaker 2>Smart. So that's when you open it up. Yeah. On

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<v Speaker 2>those days. Oh, so good. I've been feeling like a

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<v Speaker 2>good mum lately because I did a big Amazon order

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<v Speaker 2>of toys for kids between ages six to 10. For parties?

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<v Speaker 2>For parties. Oh, that's so organized. For both genders. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I've fallen off the wagon and I've been caught with

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<v Speaker 2>my pants down many times turning up to a party

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<v Speaker 2>and being like, Rafa, we'll bring it on Monday. Oh, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, just ill-prepared or not wrapped in a shopping

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<v Speaker 2>bag and got the kids to like decorate the bag

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<v Speaker 2>and pass it off as passable. But no, it was

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<v Speaker 2>so satisfying when that big Amazon box arrived and no

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<v Speaker 2>one asked. But in case you're interested, the go-to gifts

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<v Speaker 2>that I went for was potions kits.

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<v Speaker 1>For girls because.

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<v Speaker 2>The ones on Amazon are so good. They come with

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<v Speaker 2>all different vases and vessels and some of them you

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<v Speaker 2>can turn into necklaces so you pour your potion in.

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<v Speaker 2>What kid isn't going to love that? And for the boys,

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<v Speaker 2>I get these like dinosaurs that come with a toolkit

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<v Speaker 2>and you can completely dismantle them and rebuild them. Fun. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>so I bought like five each of those and I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, I'm sad. So organised. Set for parties. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying. Now that tour's finished, I'm like, I've got

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<v Speaker 2>to do something to get my life back on track

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<v Speaker 2>because it's been so unseated for so long. 100% I'm

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<v Speaker 2>in the same season, but it's more like, oh, whoops,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't pay my water bill for two quarters and

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<v Speaker 2>this guy turns up to my house yesterday and he's

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<v Speaker 2>wearing this like high-vis and I was like, oh, do

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<v Speaker 2>you need to read the meter? And he goes, no.

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<v Speaker 2>And he hands me this letter that goes, we will

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<v Speaker 2>be disconnecting your water. And I was like, why? And

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<v Speaker 2>he's like, you haven't paid your bills. And I was like, oh, shit. So...

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<v Speaker 2>Sat down, did some admin yesterday. Lots of things I

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<v Speaker 2>hadn't paid actually. Yeah. Did a big catch up quite cleansing.

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<v Speaker 2>It hurts.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, whatever. But it does feel good. And it wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>like I was avoiding the bill. I just literally, and

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<v Speaker 2>the pile of many things that needed to be done.

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<v Speaker 2>Didn't do that. It all falls by the wayside. Everything

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<v Speaker 2>falls by. If only a guy would come to my

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<v Speaker 2>door and be like, organize your linen press. Do you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I mean? But he doesn't. So it doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>get done. Yeah. I need those people in high-vis to

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<v Speaker 2>turn up and threaten me with my whole life falling

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<v Speaker 2>apart to actually get anything done at the moment. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>gun to the head kind of lifestyle.

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<v Speaker 1>My favourite pastime activity is like decluttering a junk drawer,

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<v Speaker 1>decluttering the linen cupboard.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so satisfying. I actually do like doing it too.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just you've got to carve out the time, right?

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<v Speaker 2>This is weirdly my plan for week two of the holiday.

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<v Speaker 2>So week one we've gone away, but week two I

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<v Speaker 2>could have had the kids and, to be honest, off

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<v Speaker 2>the back of tour I've really missed them and I thought, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I could have a fun week with the kids. And

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<v Speaker 2>then I thought, know thyself, Gem. You can manage a

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<v Speaker 2>fun couple of days. Wait, so you've also, not only

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<v Speaker 2>are you party organized, you've organized the school holidays. For

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<v Speaker 2>those of you who don't know, this is a classic story.

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<v Speaker 2>Up until now, we get into the office on a

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<v Speaker 2>Monday or a Tuesday and Katie's like, so on Thursday

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<v Speaker 2>and Gem goes, wait, what?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, what? We're working on Thursday and we're like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>like every week. And she's like, fuck, I haven't organized

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<v Speaker 2>anything for the kids. And then she scrambles around and like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, with sticky tape and bubble gum fixes together

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<v Speaker 2>some kind of plan and some kids go in here

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<v Speaker 2>and some there and this person's dropping. So what's going on, Shumi? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm super transitioning to a good mom. Who is she?

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<v Speaker 2>Who is she? Yeah, well, I say that, but then

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<v Speaker 2>in the same breath this morning, I was like, oh, Iggy,

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<v Speaker 2>I've got to put you into Oosh. at like 10

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<v Speaker 2>minutes before school starts. And he's like, what? And I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>you've got Oosh this afternoon. Don't forget. Mommy's working till late.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, oh, okay. So yeah, it's still a scramble,

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<v Speaker 2>but school holidays, I'm all across it. Farmed both kids

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<v Speaker 2>out fully. I think I've got one day with them

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<v Speaker 2>to do something fun. But for the most part, I

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<v Speaker 2>thought I'm going to gift myself time to spring clean

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<v Speaker 2>because it is officially spring and I'm feeling the nesting mood.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to get sorted for summer. I want to

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<v Speaker 2>organize my linen cupboard. Is that my kid's Or have

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<v Speaker 2>you just not tried this? My kids will do the

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<v Speaker 2>washing with me. Or like I will tell them, sort

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<v Speaker 2>out your cupboard. They'll do it. Like they get really

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<v Speaker 2>into house chores.

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<v Speaker 1>Nah, not my kids.

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 1>They say, I'm too tired.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, then when they say, can we go to the park?

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<v Speaker 2>Just say, I'm too tired. Goes both ways, guys. My

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<v Speaker 2>kids are quite chorey.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I shoot myself in the foot because I

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<v Speaker 1>love tidying and organising. I'm always tidying up their playroom

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<v Speaker 1>and whatnot. I need to give them an opportunity to tidy.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to do like do as I do, not

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<v Speaker 1>as I say kind of thing. Sure. Where I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>how fun is tidying, everyone? I'm like, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>How delicious is broccoli?

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<v Speaker 1>Right, guys? Shall we start this up?

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<v Speaker 2>Let's do it. We have a thousand things to do,

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<v Speaker 2>but we'd rather chat to you. With emails and meetings

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<v Speaker 2>and husbands and kids, we don't have time for this.

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<v Speaker 2>Just what you need to basic bitches with a podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello and welcome to We Don't Have Time For This.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm your host Gemma Pranita aka Gemma Peanut on the

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<v Speaker 2>gram along with my co-host Kate Reeves from the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Producer Kate from behind the scenes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes producer Kate now has her own microphone. She is

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<v Speaker 2>in the house today DLs to do an AMA with

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<v Speaker 2>Revs and I.

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<v Speaker 1>I love a good AMA.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes and we love you being the keeper of the quezzies.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got a whole range of quizzes that you've sent

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<v Speaker 1>in DLs.

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<v Speaker 2>Love it. So we thought coming off the back of

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<v Speaker 2>our epic final live show tour, we get a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of DMs. We have a lot of questions, a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of questions in the VIDL line, a lot of curiosity

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<v Speaker 2>from you guys. And we thought we'll put it into

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<v Speaker 2>one glorious little package right here on the episode.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's get straight into it. Starting off with

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<v Speaker 1>the big one. What are the girls' views on peptides?

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<v Speaker 2>I love you guys. Peptides. We have not brought this

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<v Speaker 2>combo to the mic. No, I don't really have any views.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you have any views? I feel a great indifference.

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<v Speaker 2>I know it's a conversation in my community, like amongst

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<v Speaker 2>other school mum friends. They've talked about peptides. They've exchanged,

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<v Speaker 2>like there's one person in particular who's very into them

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<v Speaker 2>and she's got all the hacks Because it's all non-official, right? Peptides?

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<v Speaker 2>Or there's some that are regulated and then there's the

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<v Speaker 2>black market of peptides. And yeah, I've like been privy

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<v Speaker 2>to the chats, but I was just like, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>like needles. So the idea of. sticking needles into myself

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<v Speaker 2>for peptides is just, I don't know. I just feel

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<v Speaker 2>like something I want to, I want to introduce into

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<v Speaker 2>my life. I feel like it's for the really optimized

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<v Speaker 2>human being, you know, the person who has a really

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<v Speaker 2>good workout routine, who meal preps and then they're peptiding

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<v Speaker 2>on top to fully, you know, and like, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>even doing step one. So it's probably not for me,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know, you do you or whatever. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't really have an opinion on peptides. I I

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<v Speaker 2>have no opinion and I judge no one for putting

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<v Speaker 2>their body on the line and giving those things a go.

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<v Speaker 2>And if it's yielding results, great. I think some people

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<v Speaker 2>swear by them. Some people pearl clutch and are scared

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<v Speaker 2>of them. Yeah, I had a mum friend who was

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<v Speaker 2>really keen and then she sat down with her GP

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<v Speaker 2>and then she completely changed her mind. I was like, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 2>there you go. Yeah, I can't imagine GPs are like... Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>go for it. Unregulated black market drugs. Sounds good.

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<v Speaker 1>Me personally, I'm always late to a trend, so I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure I'll have some opinions in a couple months' time,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm just getting started on creatine, guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, yeah, you're in the creatine bandwagon.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm like six months behind everyone else.

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<v Speaker 2>Six months? Six months. A year? Least. At least. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just trying to get back on the exercise bandwagon.

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<v Speaker 1>Period.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'll start there. I was proud of myself for

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<v Speaker 2>getting up at seven on the dot today. So, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>good work, Revs. Thank you. The house cat got up.

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<v Speaker 2>Came to work.

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<v Speaker 1>Why did you get up?

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<v Speaker 2>To come to work. But like, I just, I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>feel like getting up at seven, but I did. And

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<v Speaker 2>I was proud of myself. And that's the low bar

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<v Speaker 2>I've set for myself at the moment. I'm nowhere near

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<v Speaker 2>a peptide or an exercise regime.

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<v Speaker 1>And Gemma, you Pilates every morning?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm nothing at the moment except tennis. Oh, tennis is great. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but that's not enough. But no, I want to get

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<v Speaker 2>back into reformer Pilates. I want to get back into

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<v Speaker 2>my walks. I just need some sort of routine. My

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<v Speaker 2>biggest thing with exercise I've worked out is I have

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<v Speaker 2>to schedule it in and then I just turn up

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<v Speaker 2>to it. I can't think about what do I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like doing this week? That just doesn't work for me.

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<v Speaker 2>And the beautiful thing about my tennis lessons, because they're

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<v Speaker 2>term-based is They're at nine o'clock every Monday. I just go. Perfect.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think about it. It's just part of my routine.

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<v Speaker 2>The problem with classes like Pilates, where you kind of

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<v Speaker 2>opt in every week, what day of the week works.

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<v Speaker 2>And then when classes fill up, I'm like, I'm fucked. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't know. But then don't ask me to subscribe.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, this is the problem. And don't even dare

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<v Speaker 2>lock you into a contract. Don't you dare. Cause I

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<v Speaker 2>will break that contract and pay that fee so hard.

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<v Speaker 2>No show fee. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's move on. We have got a plethora

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<v Speaker 1>of show questions starting off with what hair tool does

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<v Speaker 1>Melly use on revs? I need that mermaid hair.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the mermaid waver and it's the same hair tool

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<v Speaker 2>I use on my hair at home. It's so cool.

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<v Speaker 2>It's great. I have the OG, like the big barrel one.

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<v Speaker 2>It's actually rusting. I've had it for so long, but

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<v Speaker 2>Mel has, I think a slightly smaller barrel. And I

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<v Speaker 2>have the smallest. And you have the smallest one. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a few different sizes, obviously the smaller the barrel,

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<v Speaker 2>the tighter the curl. Yeah. It's really easy. I'm a

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<v Speaker 2>big fan. They have a lot of tools now. They've

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<v Speaker 2>got hot rollers and straighteners and all sorts of things,

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<v Speaker 2>but I like the OG giant paddle tool. at home.

0:10:07.670 --> 0:10:10.870
<v Speaker 2>Bella from the fifth trimester uses it as well. And

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<v Speaker 2>she is a self-professed like non-hair girl. I'm shit at

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<v Speaker 2>doing hair. If I can do this, literally anyone can.

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<v Speaker 2>And Revs and I are in the same camp. Like

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<v Speaker 2>it's just such a simple tool. It's great. Love it.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it just a personal preference whether you want the

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<v Speaker 1>big waves or the small waves? Or is it like

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<v Speaker 1>longer hair should be using this?

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<v Speaker 2>Like if you use the big barrel one on Jem's hair,

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<v Speaker 2>it'd be that old Hollywood kind of, you'd get like

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<v Speaker 2>a wave and a half, maybe two in there. And

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<v Speaker 2>if you use the little one, you might get three

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<v Speaker 2>or four bends in the strand, you know? Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>had the little one and I used it for the

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<v Speaker 2>Taylor Swift concert, which worked really well for that Taylor-esque hair.

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<v Speaker 2>But I will say it's one degree away from crimp.

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<v Speaker 2>From crimps. Yeah, or perm. Yeah, so I would recommend

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<v Speaker 2>the medium or the large, what Revsie has if you

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<v Speaker 2>have long hair.

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<v Speaker 3>Great.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, next quizzy, costumes. We need all the deets.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you want to know? This year was much

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<v Speaker 2>more clothesy than costumey. Yeah, it was. I mean, except

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<v Speaker 2>for our Belle Disney princess moment. I mean, our opening

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<v Speaker 2>numbers were definitely costumey. Yes, but they were bought from

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<v Speaker 2>a clothes shop.

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<v Speaker 1>True.

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<v Speaker 2>And we just sort of bedazzled and wore fishnets with them,

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<v Speaker 2>which always makes it costumey. uh the vibe this year

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<v Speaker 2>was obviously gothic and cunty and um witchy woo woo

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<v Speaker 2>and owning our bodies that was a big theme that

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<v Speaker 2>i wanted to get through it that we were like

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<v Speaker 2>here i am this is me how i am celebrating

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<v Speaker 2>it you know jem and i used to sometimes wear

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<v Speaker 2>like the same outfit and what we found was like

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<v Speaker 2>oh we have completely different bodies and nothing highlights that

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<v Speaker 2>more than us wearing the same thing I mean sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>it's worked for an effect. Like I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>DLs will remember the Grand Illusion piece from last year's

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<v Speaker 2>show where I loved that costume. Yeah, one of my

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<v Speaker 2>favourable times. It was like a shirt with a boob

0:11:54.910 --> 0:11:58.150
<v Speaker 2>tube dress and the idea was like we're magician assistants

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<v Speaker 2>and we did this magic trick with the light up thumbs.

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<v Speaker 2>In my mind we were the magicians. Yeah, sure. We

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<v Speaker 2>were the magicians. No assistant needed it. Well, that piece

0:12:08.280 --> 0:12:10.940
<v Speaker 2>went through many iterations, didn't it? But, yeah, no, we

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<v Speaker 2>did end up being the magicians. But I did feel

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<v Speaker 2>that that worked as being a powerful effect, having us

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<v Speaker 2>in the same costumes. We also wore the same costume

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<v Speaker 2>in the opening for this year's piece. different colorway different

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<v Speaker 2>colors which i thought also worked took a bit of

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<v Speaker 2>a risk with quite a bit of black and white

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<v Speaker 2>this year we've always stayed away from black and white

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<v Speaker 2>because we want color we want vibrancy and obviously there's

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<v Speaker 2>only ever two of us on the stage so you

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<v Speaker 2>want to fill that stage with things that bring vibrancy

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<v Speaker 2>but just because we were doing this gothic witchy culty

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<v Speaker 2>churchy thing it just it called for kept coming back

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<v Speaker 2>to black kept coming back to white and Jem's white

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<v Speaker 2>beaded crucifix dress.

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<v Speaker 1>Darn it.

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<v Speaker 2>Fave costume. Was probably everyone's collective fave on the tour

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<v Speaker 2>and the audience literally applauded it in many cities. It

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<v Speaker 2>was so beautiful. Pretty special. Guys, that I found on ASOS.

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<v Speaker 2>It was about $ 340, which is expensive for ASOS, but

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<v Speaker 2>not for what that dress is. And it was comfy, right?

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<v Speaker 2>Very comfortable. Quite heavy. Heavy, yeah, because very embellished. Oh, 100p.

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<v Speaker 2>Like you couldn't sneak up on anyone in that dress.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like. As you walk around. Had a really unique

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<v Speaker 2>neckline which I loved and looked absolutely gorgeous on you

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<v Speaker 2>because we're such different colouring. It's really fun because Jem's

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<v Speaker 2>got the bob now as well. It's like the dark

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<v Speaker 2>bob and then the long blonde. It was really fun

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<v Speaker 2>to play with the textures on that. Yeah, visually how

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<v Speaker 2>that looks. So I kept most of the black on

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<v Speaker 2>me because of the bright hair. It sort of like

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<v Speaker 2>contrasts and kept most of the white on Jem. But, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>like our final dresses were from Meshki. Meshki. Um, one

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<v Speaker 2>of them, I did have to get off Depop in

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<v Speaker 2>the States and panic Daron to run to the post

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<v Speaker 2>office and express post it. And it made it two

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<v Speaker 2>days before Canberra. I think it arrived. I just knew

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<v Speaker 2>I had to have it. It was the same color

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<v Speaker 2>as the one we found for you. split down the

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<v Speaker 2>leg was chef's kiss and it just had a priesty

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<v Speaker 2>vibe to it i can't explain no it does it

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<v Speaker 2>the neck the like funnel neck and the like the

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<v Speaker 2>cloth like drape yeah it had like a priest vibe

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<v Speaker 2>which i was like oh my god it's priest but

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<v Speaker 2>make it fashion make it cunty make it form fitting

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<v Speaker 2>boobie you know fun deals in our vidal line made

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<v Speaker 2>capes for the show and they were the most exquisite

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<v Speaker 2>capes I've ever seen. They started making these capes well

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<v Speaker 2>before they knew that Revs and I wore capes in

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<v Speaker 2>the show and I had cape envy.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you?

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<v Speaker 2>Their capes were way better than our capes. They were velvet. Yeah, lined.

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<v Speaker 2>With sparkles but lined in a gold. Beautiful clasp at

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<v Speaker 2>the top, the big hood. Yeah. They were magnificent. Actually,

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<v Speaker 2>Cape Gate consumed my thoughts for weeks. I could not

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<v Speaker 2>find the right capes for us. I really wanted something

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<v Speaker 2>like that with weight that was lined. But they would

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<v Speaker 2>have had to have been made. Yeah, and it was

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<v Speaker 2>like literally blowing out. Like I got a quote to

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<v Speaker 2>have them made and it was going to be about

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<v Speaker 2>$ 450 a cape. And I was like, well, that's ridiculous. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>can't do that anyway yes we adored those vittles who

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<v Speaker 2>were stunning theme dressed for the show so many dl's

0:15:03.980 --> 0:15:06.900
<v Speaker 2>themed dress like it was giving wuthering heights in the

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<v Speaker 2>audience it was so fun how committed everyone was sure

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<v Speaker 2>was well i will put up the links sorry i've

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<v Speaker 2>been promising that for a while do it i will

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<v Speaker 2>put up the links to all the costumes if they're

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<v Speaker 2>like still around and one of my dresses in the

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<v Speaker 2>show was from a shoot at the start of the

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<v Speaker 2>year yeah that i ended up wearing in the show

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<v Speaker 2>queen yeah queen-like dress beautiful so we do try and

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<v Speaker 2>reuse things as much as possible we try and reuse

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<v Speaker 2>we often reuse shoes yeah the country medley outfits yes

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<v Speaker 2>they were recycled the boots my shirt were from previous

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<v Speaker 2>shows and then i got a new gold skirt yeah

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<v Speaker 2>oh do you know what costume i love the rap

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<v Speaker 2>battle oh yeah that was fun yeah really really fun

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<v Speaker 2>very glitzy very those jeans of yours with the sparkle

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<v Speaker 2>was sick Yeah. And actually we used quite a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of our own stuff this year, which is great. Like

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<v Speaker 2>my red crab dress was just a red dress that

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<v Speaker 2>she owned. And actually, yeah, the pink dress I wore

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<v Speaker 2>in the country medley, which is so costumey, like crazy costumey,

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<v Speaker 2>I just had in my private collection. You did. You

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<v Speaker 2>wore it to a 40th.

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<v Speaker 3>I did.

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<v Speaker 2>And you were like, this will work. I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I agree. I was like, this is glitzy. This needs

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<v Speaker 2>to go on stage. But, yeah, I'll pull together all

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<v Speaker 2>the links on Instagram so you can shop if you

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<v Speaker 2>want to shop the looks. Yeah, DLs can't wait to

0:16:17.660 --> 0:16:22.280
<v Speaker 2>dress as pilgrims. Hey, you never know. You never know.

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<v Speaker 2>You never know. Every time I came out in my

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<v Speaker 2>Belle costume for The Village, I was like, and here

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<v Speaker 2>I go off to book week. That's because that's what

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<v Speaker 2>I thought every time. We had double aprons this year.

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<v Speaker 2>We had black aprons for The Pilgrims and then white

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<v Speaker 2>for Belle. It was really fun. I love the fits

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<v Speaker 2>for the show, but I personally love a costume. Love. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's fun because you step into something else. Like I

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<v Speaker 2>still think about our Bridgerton costumes and how fun it was.

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<v Speaker 2>It just changes your whole posture when you put a

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<v Speaker 2>costume on. And let's be honest, you'd feel like a

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<v Speaker 2>proper theatre girl. Mm-hmm.

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<v Speaker 1>Any least favorite costumes anything uncomfortable or.

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<v Speaker 2>Like look our opening costumes were not comfortable at all

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<v Speaker 2>we couldn't sit down couldn't sit down so we like.

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<v Speaker 1>Would delay delay delay getting into them you did a

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<v Speaker 1>whole medley in them.

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<v Speaker 2>It's funny the adrenaline of nerves takes over and you

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<v Speaker 2>don't feel the corset at all the super tight tights

0:17:13.460 --> 0:17:16.580
<v Speaker 2>and the weird boots and the lacing at the back

0:17:16.680 --> 0:17:19.980
<v Speaker 2>and the actual lace thing underneath riding up But after

0:17:20.060 --> 0:17:22.460
<v Speaker 2>two shows we were like, fuck, these are thrashed. And

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<v Speaker 2>we're like, yeah, because we do a four-minute dance in

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<v Speaker 2>them where we get on the floor and we're like, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>We're in all sorts of posies. Lie on our backs.

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<v Speaker 1>And those red sparkly undies, they worked so well.

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<v Speaker 2>That was a journey. Wasn't it? Yeah, arriving at those,

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<v Speaker 2>it was worth it for the gag. And they arrived

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<v Speaker 2>at the final hour as well and we were worried

0:17:40.869 --> 0:17:43.370
<v Speaker 2>they weren't going to fit us. And by some miracle. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they were quite comfy. They were actually really comfy. The

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<v Speaker 2>sparkly red nappies. Yeah, we did call that. The opening

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<v Speaker 2>outfits were my faves, I think, but they were the

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<v Speaker 2>least comfortable out of all the costumes. I will say

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<v Speaker 2>I went on a journey with my closing costume. Oh, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I had to really brave up, which sounds so dumb. No,

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<v Speaker 2>it's very not something you would normally wear.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Like Rev's presented me this dress and she was like, baby,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll look sick in this. And I put it on

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<v Speaker 2>in the office, I think with sneakers and active wear underneath.

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<v Speaker 2>And everyone was like, oh yeah. And I just, sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>you have to get out of your own way. And

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<v Speaker 2>lean into full trust of your friends. Because I know

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<v Speaker 2>my friends aren't going to let me have egg on

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<v Speaker 2>my face and put me in something ridiculous. And even

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<v Speaker 2>though I didn't feel comfortable in it as it just

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't a style I would ever wear. I don't get

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<v Speaker 2>my boobs out very often. Not for any reason other

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<v Speaker 2>than it's just not my style. No, it's not. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a very tit forward dress. It's a tit forward dress.

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<v Speaker 2>It's also backless. It's also tight and you don't really

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<v Speaker 2>wear tight clothes. I don't wear figure hugging clothes. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it was out of my comfort zone, but I had

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<v Speaker 2>to lean into the trust and go, they're telling me

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<v Speaker 2>I look great in it. So I'm just going to

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<v Speaker 2>get over myself. That was my personal crusade to get

0:18:53.869 --> 0:18:57.450
<v Speaker 2>your tits on display because sometimes like guys, you don't

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<v Speaker 2>understand what Gem is packing under those oversized Sabi t-shirts.

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<v Speaker 2>She has the nicest boobs in all the land. It's

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<v Speaker 2>offensive that she has them after two kids and being 40.

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<v Speaker 2>They are the most gorgeous, perky, buoyant, voluptuous titties. Like

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<v Speaker 2>you would take them to a surgeon and be like,

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<v Speaker 2>I want these. No, you wouldn't. Yes, you would. No,

0:19:22.730 --> 0:19:25.869
<v Speaker 2>you wouldn't. I would not. Yes, you would. I would.

0:19:25.950 --> 0:19:28.440
<v Speaker 2>They're a humble bee. It doesn't matter the size. They're

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<v Speaker 2>gorgeous and they're like exactly where you want them to be.

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<v Speaker 2>And I remember seeing them a couple of years ago

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<v Speaker 2>and being like, come again? Because you don't ever get

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<v Speaker 2>your tits out ever. I don't. And I was just like,

0:19:39.780 --> 0:19:44.070
<v Speaker 2>these are spectacular. So I was like, whenever I can,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to get them. Anyway, it took me four years.

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<v Speaker 2>Well done.

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<v Speaker 1>You did it.

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<v Speaker 2>And I got out of your way. Yes. that one.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what? Despite my own discomfort. You just look

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<v Speaker 2>so beautiful. And I thought about the bob and, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>like the rhinestones under the theatre lights. Oh, yeah. Just stunning. Stunning.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you in that black dress for me. I

0:20:01.650 --> 0:20:04.130
<v Speaker 2>said to Revs every show, I was like, I'd turn

0:20:04.170 --> 0:20:06.270
<v Speaker 2>gay for you in that dress. We're talking about the

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<v Speaker 2>sheer long sleeve, floor length. see-through dress that i wore

0:20:10.840 --> 0:20:13.040
<v Speaker 2>brown undies on yeah and it took some workshopping to

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<v Speaker 2>find the right undies for revs they needed to be

0:20:14.940 --> 0:20:17.500
<v Speaker 2>a high cut but they needed to be high-waisted anyway

0:20:17.540 --> 0:20:20.760
<v Speaker 2>that dress came with a whole strapless situation it just

0:20:20.780 --> 0:20:23.000
<v Speaker 2>didn't work yeah and we sexed it up but the

0:20:23.100 --> 0:20:25.260
<v Speaker 2>belt just the whole thing yeah and then the boots

0:20:25.300 --> 0:20:28.740
<v Speaker 2>made it cunty revs in that fit me and show

0:20:28.760 --> 0:20:32.780
<v Speaker 2>daddy i think it was my favorite i was gawking

0:20:32.859 --> 0:20:34.699
<v Speaker 2>over myself fucking love myself sick in that it's great

0:20:34.720 --> 0:20:36.760
<v Speaker 2>it's a good outfit I remember the first time I

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<v Speaker 2>put it on in the rehearsal room, Katie goes, it's

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<v Speaker 2>very naked.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I said, are you aware that it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be even more sheer under the lights?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was. It was very deliberate. But you didn't.

0:20:46.530 --> 0:20:48.870
<v Speaker 1>Have your sexy undies on underneath.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I had. Not at that time. No, I didn't.

0:20:50.350 --> 0:20:54.530
<v Speaker 2>It looked very poolside because I wear hipster like. Almost

0:20:54.550 --> 0:20:57.590
<v Speaker 2>like bikini style. Yeah, bikini style undies generally in life.

0:20:57.650 --> 0:20:59.290
<v Speaker 2>And I had those on and it was like I

0:20:59.330 --> 0:21:02.690
<v Speaker 2>was by a pool with a cover up. but yeah

0:21:02.710 --> 0:21:05.170
<v Speaker 2>when we found the like full high-waisted sort of with

0:21:05.330 --> 0:21:08.610
<v Speaker 2>the boots yeah came together amazing it was my favorite

0:21:08.650 --> 0:21:11.590
<v Speaker 2>look do you guys remember there was a costume before

0:21:11.609 --> 0:21:13.910
<v Speaker 2>you landed on the medley costumes there was another costume

0:21:13.950 --> 0:21:15.930
<v Speaker 2>before that it was like a lacy white play suit

0:21:16.040 --> 0:21:19.399
<v Speaker 2>but you couldn't lift your arms up yeah and i

0:21:19.460 --> 0:21:21.820
<v Speaker 2>remember revs you going well can we just wear them

0:21:21.859 --> 0:21:24.639
<v Speaker 2>and not lift our arms i had to veto that

0:21:24.859 --> 0:21:27.960
<v Speaker 2>one i was like revs no there's no world no

0:21:28.100 --> 0:21:31.540
<v Speaker 2>like i'd have to re-choreograph the entire opening so that

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<v Speaker 2>we didn't raise our arms above our shoulder height yeah

0:21:34.850 --> 0:21:37.189
<v Speaker 2>no chance no we've still got them in our arsenal

0:21:37.230 --> 0:21:40.810
<v Speaker 2>though they're great cozies yeah what for who knows.

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<v Speaker 1>Adelaide giggles what was going on through your heads.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah so if you weren't at the adelaide show which

0:21:46.650 --> 0:21:49.330
<v Speaker 2>would be most of you we had a lot of

0:21:49.530 --> 0:21:52.070
<v Speaker 2>what in the theater world is called corpsing which is

0:21:52.109 --> 0:21:53.910
<v Speaker 2>where you just get the giggles and there's no way

0:21:53.950 --> 0:21:58.490
<v Speaker 2>you can continue you have the giggles happened probably i

0:21:58.510 --> 0:21:59.890
<v Speaker 2>can think of two times but i think i have

0:21:59.930 --> 0:22:02.010
<v Speaker 2>more than that uh i can only think of two

0:22:02.050 --> 0:22:05.820
<v Speaker 2>times but that was two times too many enough Well, in.

0:22:05.780 --> 0:22:08.400
<v Speaker 1>That chat three, the sex scene, you guys, I can't

0:22:08.440 --> 0:22:11.440
<v Speaker 1>believe you hadn't corpsed in a previous show doing that scene.

0:22:11.480 --> 0:22:13.210
<v Speaker 2>We even did revs to that. We were quite short. No,

0:22:13.369 --> 0:22:15.470
<v Speaker 2>I can believe we haven't because it was one of

0:22:15.510 --> 0:22:19.300
<v Speaker 2>the hardest bit of lines to learn and remember and

0:22:19.320 --> 0:22:22.139
<v Speaker 2>you have to. to really lock in to like focus,

0:22:22.220 --> 0:22:24.580
<v Speaker 2>focus on getting through that scene. So we were always

0:22:24.619 --> 0:22:27.040
<v Speaker 2>very focused, but I think by Adelaide, we had the

0:22:27.080 --> 0:22:29.350
<v Speaker 2>show in hand. We were so relaxed in Adelaide. I

0:22:29.369 --> 0:22:32.190
<v Speaker 2>don't know what spell came over every single member of

0:22:32.250 --> 0:22:35.370
<v Speaker 2>show fam in Adelaide, but we were so chill, so relaxed,

0:22:35.390 --> 0:22:39.670
<v Speaker 2>so ready, felt so at home. Like the audience was, primed.

0:22:39.780 --> 0:22:42.540
<v Speaker 2>Like all you bitches came in and hot from like

0:22:42.580 --> 0:22:46.619
<v Speaker 2>long lunches. It was just an amazing vibe in the room.

0:22:46.680 --> 0:22:48.760
<v Speaker 2>And we were just so easy with it all that

0:22:48.800 --> 0:22:51.590
<v Speaker 2>we added 15 minutes to the show. We did. From

0:22:51.619 --> 0:22:55.110
<v Speaker 2>just riffing with you guys and improvising and talking. And yes,

0:22:55.150 --> 0:22:58.210
<v Speaker 2>we got the giggles pretty badly in the simulated sex

0:22:58.250 --> 0:23:01.270
<v Speaker 2>bit and also in the period piece with show daddy

0:23:01.290 --> 0:23:04.119
<v Speaker 2>and We could not hold it together. Well, that's because

0:23:04.130 --> 0:23:07.780
<v Speaker 2>of Benny. He's baiting you and I every time in that.

0:23:07.800 --> 0:23:10.119
<v Speaker 2>So that was always going to happen. But the sex

0:23:10.140 --> 0:23:12.800
<v Speaker 2>scene moment, all I could see was this glint in

0:23:12.820 --> 0:23:15.359
<v Speaker 2>your eye that I could not unsee and I was gone.

0:23:15.380 --> 0:23:18.139
<v Speaker 2>Because I zoomed out. I was like, what are we doing?

0:23:18.180 --> 0:23:18.820
<v Speaker 1>That's what happens.

0:23:18.859 --> 0:23:21.379
<v Speaker 2>You zoom out and we're like, are we simulating sex

0:23:21.780 --> 0:23:25.520
<v Speaker 2>on stage? Yes, we are. Yes, we are. This was

0:23:25.600 --> 0:23:30.590
<v Speaker 2>our 11-year-old dream. LAUGHTER Yeah, but the period piece, it

0:23:30.750 --> 0:23:33.369
<v Speaker 2>is just another zoom out because it's ridiculous. We're dressed as,

0:23:33.510 --> 0:23:36.090
<v Speaker 2>I guess, what you would call pilgrims, like American pilgrims,

0:23:36.109 --> 0:23:38.550
<v Speaker 2>but we're doing an Irish accent. But I think it's

0:23:38.630 --> 0:23:41.310
<v Speaker 2>kind of set in a witchy time. So, like, none

0:23:41.350 --> 0:23:43.410
<v Speaker 2>of it really makes any sense. It was like there's

0:23:43.510 --> 0:23:45.970
<v Speaker 2>no period accuracy to it. It was just on vibes. No,

0:23:45.970 --> 0:23:48.210
<v Speaker 2>it was for our joy. Just on vibes. That was it,

0:23:48.210 --> 0:23:51.260
<v Speaker 2>making each other laugh. Let's add some accents. How funny

0:23:51.280 --> 0:23:54.379
<v Speaker 2>would it be if we referenced the crucible? Yeah, yeah. Well,

0:23:54.400 --> 0:23:57.300
<v Speaker 2>but the crucible's not Irish. Not at all. Sorry.

0:23:57.420 --> 0:23:57.980
<v Speaker 3>Not at all.

0:23:58.520 --> 0:24:00.340
<v Speaker 2>The whole thing was just like. But we were sort

0:24:00.380 --> 0:24:03.610
<v Speaker 2>of Scottish at times as well. Yes, you were very Merida.

0:24:03.660 --> 0:24:04.449
<v Speaker 2>Very Merida.

0:24:04.510 --> 0:24:04.750
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:24:04.910 --> 0:24:09.270
<v Speaker 2>It was just Celtic. And then show daddy's accent got

0:24:09.410 --> 0:24:13.429
<v Speaker 2>more and more. Absurd. Absurd. Yeah. Like he was just

0:24:13.540 --> 0:24:15.100
<v Speaker 2>adding vowels that weren't even there.

0:24:15.200 --> 0:24:15.380
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:24:15.400 --> 0:24:18.080
<v Speaker 2>It was amazing. But it was so silly. So silly.

0:24:18.260 --> 0:24:20.560
<v Speaker 2>And so funny. Fun. Like if anyone tried to watch

0:24:20.600 --> 0:24:23.919
<v Speaker 2>that piece and get critical about it, it's like, mate,

0:24:24.560 --> 0:24:27.660
<v Speaker 2>that's not the point. It was very SNL vibes of like,

0:24:27.680 --> 0:24:28.770
<v Speaker 2>what is this? What is this?

0:24:28.869 --> 0:24:29.149
<v Speaker 1>Why?

0:24:29.210 --> 0:24:33.050
<v Speaker 2>Okay, we're going with it. But we can feel up

0:24:33.090 --> 0:24:35.650
<v Speaker 2>there when you're with us. Yeah. You know, you can

0:24:35.710 --> 0:24:38.250
<v Speaker 2>feel when something's not quite landing or whatever, but you

0:24:38.290 --> 0:24:42.090
<v Speaker 2>can also feel when something is absolutely landing and Adelaide,

0:24:42.130 --> 0:24:43.910
<v Speaker 2>you just got it. And so we just got into

0:24:43.930 --> 0:24:46.740
<v Speaker 2>the giggles with you and then you were laughing at

0:24:46.780 --> 0:24:48.600
<v Speaker 2>us laughing and we were laughing at you laughing at

0:24:48.640 --> 0:24:51.080
<v Speaker 2>us laughing. And then it was just like, this is hilarious.

0:24:51.300 --> 0:24:52.939
<v Speaker 2>And at one point I remember thinking like, we're going

0:24:52.960 --> 0:24:55.200
<v Speaker 2>to land this scene. Like this scene is never going to,

0:24:55.200 --> 0:24:57.280
<v Speaker 2>we were only like a quarter of the way through

0:24:57.350 --> 0:24:58.510
<v Speaker 2>it when we got the giggles i was like this

0:24:58.570 --> 0:25:02.290
<v Speaker 2>is hilarious this sex scene is so rhythm based between

0:25:02.330 --> 0:25:04.770
<v Speaker 2>you and i and that rhythm was gone gone so

0:25:04.810 --> 0:25:08.280
<v Speaker 2>we had to re-find our sexual rhythm on stage to

0:25:08.340 --> 0:25:09.480
<v Speaker 2>get through it and it.

0:25:09.460 --> 0:25:11.780
<v Speaker 1>Was just so silly i think you counted revs in

0:25:11.800 --> 0:25:14.100
<v Speaker 1>at one point jim i might have yeah.

0:25:13.920 --> 0:25:17.870
<v Speaker 2>You attempted to yeah ready three two one And thrust.

0:25:18.369 --> 0:25:18.970
<v Speaker 2>And thrust.

0:25:19.810 --> 0:25:23.030
<v Speaker 1>The online screening didn't have the fifth trimester girls. What

0:25:23.070 --> 0:25:23.850
<v Speaker 1>did I miss?

0:25:24.050 --> 0:25:26.430
<v Speaker 2>We also didn't have show daddy doing confession.

0:25:26.450 --> 0:25:27.770
<v Speaker 1>Show father, you mean.

0:25:27.830 --> 0:25:31.590
<v Speaker 2>Show father. Show father. That was just like an in-person thing.

0:25:31.690 --> 0:25:34.470
<v Speaker 2>Like it doesn't, some things just don't translate because of.

0:25:34.720 --> 0:25:37.000
<v Speaker 2>where we can put mics, where we can put cameras,

0:25:37.160 --> 0:25:39.940
<v Speaker 2>what can be done in time for a live stream.

0:25:40.240 --> 0:25:43.180
<v Speaker 2>And unfortunately it just wasn't going to work to go

0:25:43.200 --> 0:25:45.260
<v Speaker 2>at the head of the show. It's also important to

0:25:45.280 --> 0:25:48.600
<v Speaker 2>remember we didn't have the fifth trimester girls at every show.

0:25:49.200 --> 0:25:53.480
<v Speaker 2>So it is one of those special live in-person treats,

0:25:53.880 --> 0:25:55.500
<v Speaker 2>but yeah, it didn't make it to the live stream.

0:25:55.540 --> 0:25:57.460
<v Speaker 2>And we wanted the live stream to start when the

0:25:57.500 --> 0:26:00.180
<v Speaker 2>show starts. If you don't listen to the fifth trimester yet,

0:26:00.260 --> 0:26:02.080
<v Speaker 2>I mean, What are you doing? What are you doing?

0:26:02.119 --> 0:26:04.280
<v Speaker 2>It's so good. It's my favorite pod on a Monday.

0:26:04.359 --> 0:26:06.920
<v Speaker 2>I am loving it. I also love that it drops

0:26:06.980 --> 0:26:08.880
<v Speaker 2>on a Monday when like none of my other pods

0:26:08.920 --> 0:26:10.580
<v Speaker 2>have come out yet. And it's like, oh, I really

0:26:10.600 --> 0:26:12.720
<v Speaker 2>want to listen to something while I cook dinner tonight.

0:26:12.740 --> 0:26:14.600
<v Speaker 2>I've got it. It's what I do. I listen every

0:26:14.640 --> 0:26:16.359
<v Speaker 2>Monday night when I'm cooking dinner. So I listen to

0:26:16.380 --> 0:26:18.780
<v Speaker 2>it on the way to work on Tuesdays. Perfect.

0:26:18.820 --> 0:26:19.090
<v Speaker 3>Yes.

0:26:19.160 --> 0:26:21.070
<v Speaker 2>It's so snackable because it's like 28 to 30 minutes.

0:26:21.090 --> 0:26:23.129
<v Speaker 2>So it's like, yeah, it's great. So I listen on

0:26:23.150 --> 0:26:25.590
<v Speaker 2>the way and then I finish it on the way home. Perfect.

0:26:25.630 --> 0:26:25.830
<v Speaker 2>It's great.

0:26:26.090 --> 0:26:28.870
<v Speaker 1>Bella and Lou's goal is to get the content out

0:26:29.010 --> 0:26:31.270
<v Speaker 1>as quickly as possible so we beat all the other

0:26:31.290 --> 0:26:32.570
<v Speaker 1>pop culture cults.

0:26:32.609 --> 0:26:35.330
<v Speaker 2>They succeed in a lot of ways. They're often the

0:26:35.390 --> 0:26:38.640
<v Speaker 2>first to drop their opinions on the latest pop culture incident,

0:26:38.660 --> 0:26:40.820
<v Speaker 2>whatever's going on in the world, and I love that.

0:26:41.000 --> 0:26:43.460
<v Speaker 2>They are very dedicated guys. They are working their little

0:26:43.500 --> 0:26:45.860
<v Speaker 2>tushes off and they are, like, boots on the ground,

0:26:46.200 --> 0:26:49.520
<v Speaker 2>pop culture journalists, and they are so committed to bringing

0:26:49.560 --> 0:26:53.280
<v Speaker 2>it to you quickly and well-researched and fact-checked and all

0:26:53.320 --> 0:26:53.900
<v Speaker 2>that stuff.

0:26:53.940 --> 0:26:55.720
<v Speaker 1>It's no joke that they're chronically online.

0:26:55.740 --> 0:26:58.790
<v Speaker 2>They are chronically online. And they will drop an emergency

0:26:59.030 --> 0:27:01.550
<v Speaker 2>app if and when they need to to be timely,

0:27:01.670 --> 0:27:04.010
<v Speaker 2>and I respect it. I love it. They just keep

0:27:04.070 --> 0:27:07.370
<v Speaker 2>us informed, you know, not about geopolitics or anything, just

0:27:07.410 --> 0:27:09.870
<v Speaker 2>about the things we want to know, like pop culture, drama,

0:27:09.970 --> 0:27:11.350
<v Speaker 2>and tea on the internet.

0:27:11.680 --> 0:27:14.950
<v Speaker 1>Did you end up getting the matching tats with Show Daddy?

0:27:15.150 --> 0:27:18.750
<v Speaker 2>No, we didn't. Did we even have time to in Melbourne? Oh,

0:27:18.830 --> 0:27:21.510
<v Speaker 2>if I'd made an appointment, would you have done it? No. Nearly.

0:27:22.560 --> 0:27:24.560
<v Speaker 2>But you and Show Daddy could have gone ahead. We

0:27:24.600 --> 0:27:26.560
<v Speaker 2>can't have RX2 and RX3.

0:27:26.820 --> 0:27:28.480
<v Speaker 1>Can you fill the DLs in? Maybe we will.

0:27:28.780 --> 0:27:32.030
<v Speaker 2>Basically, for four years, we have had three microphones in

0:27:32.070 --> 0:27:36.630
<v Speaker 2>the show. RX1, which is Jem's microphone. RX2, which is mine. RX3,

0:27:36.670 --> 0:27:38.850
<v Speaker 2>which is Show Daddy's. Even when he wasn't in the show,

0:27:39.070 --> 0:27:41.270
<v Speaker 2>he would have an offstage mic for his warm-up. We

0:27:41.290 --> 0:27:42.950
<v Speaker 2>called it the God mic. The God mic in case

0:27:42.990 --> 0:27:44.740
<v Speaker 2>he had to, like, you know, join in or say

0:27:44.760 --> 0:27:47.240
<v Speaker 2>something on the stage. So the idea was that we

0:27:47.260 --> 0:27:49.660
<v Speaker 2>would all get a little mic number on our wrist,

0:27:49.859 --> 0:27:50.520
<v Speaker 2>our mic hand.

0:27:50.760 --> 0:27:50.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:27:51.020 --> 0:27:51.950
<v Speaker 2>But Chum's not into it.

0:27:52.020 --> 0:27:52.620
<v Speaker 1>No, it's not.

0:27:52.980 --> 0:27:57.830
<v Speaker 2>Well... Yes, I'm not into it. Not because I don't

0:27:57.920 --> 0:28:00.189
<v Speaker 2>love the sentiment. Because she's not a team player. No,

0:28:00.210 --> 0:28:02.710
<v Speaker 2>in case she hates show fam. I love the sentiment

0:28:02.770 --> 0:28:06.149
<v Speaker 2>behind it, of course, because I'm a sentimentalist at heart.

0:28:06.170 --> 0:28:09.369
<v Speaker 2>But I'm done with my tattoo days. Like I got

0:28:09.410 --> 0:28:11.790
<v Speaker 2>a tattoo really young, guys, in case you missed this

0:28:11.990 --> 0:28:16.270
<v Speaker 2>plot line of my life. And it looks terrible now,

0:28:16.730 --> 0:28:18.970
<v Speaker 2>but I don't feel a need to like get rid

0:28:19.040 --> 0:28:21.380
<v Speaker 2>of it or put myself through that or spend money

0:28:21.480 --> 0:28:23.909
<v Speaker 2>on it again. And it's just a part of my story,

0:28:23.950 --> 0:28:27.090
<v Speaker 2>but it's also my cautionary tale to myself that things

0:28:27.109 --> 0:28:29.209
<v Speaker 2>that you're into at a certain window of time, you

0:28:29.230 --> 0:28:32.620
<v Speaker 2>won't be into later. But while I'm all about leaning hard,

0:28:32.680 --> 0:28:34.959
<v Speaker 2>like when people go, is this too trendy to be

0:28:35.020 --> 0:28:37.970
<v Speaker 2>my wedding dress? And I'm like, lean into a trend. Hmm.

0:28:38.290 --> 0:28:41.510
<v Speaker 2>You'll look back on it and it'll timestamp that moment beautifully.

0:28:41.530 --> 0:28:44.250
<v Speaker 2>You don't need to be classic for your wedding. But

0:28:44.290 --> 0:28:47.130
<v Speaker 2>the thing about tattoos is they are on you permanently.

0:28:47.970 --> 0:28:50.880
<v Speaker 2>And mine didn't age well. So it's put me off

0:28:50.920 --> 0:28:53.820
<v Speaker 2>tattoos for life. You know, I respect people who get them.

0:28:53.880 --> 0:28:56.800
<v Speaker 2>You know, you do you boo. But have you thought

0:28:56.840 --> 0:28:59.920
<v Speaker 2>this through? Have you thought this through? And I thought

0:28:59.960 --> 0:29:03.020
<v Speaker 2>it through and I thought, I don't want an RX1

0:29:03.240 --> 0:29:06.540
<v Speaker 2>stamping on my person. But I said to Revs and

0:29:06.580 --> 0:29:08.710
<v Speaker 2>Show Daddy, I'll get a henna and you guys go

0:29:08.750 --> 0:29:11.050
<v Speaker 2>get the legit thing. All right, Show Daddy, should we

0:29:11.090 --> 0:29:13.530
<v Speaker 2>go do this? Let's go get our RX2 and RX3.

0:29:13.650 --> 0:29:14.310
<v Speaker 2>Bestie tats.

0:29:15.030 --> 0:29:16.940
<v Speaker 1>Out of all the questions we got, we got so

0:29:17.050 --> 0:29:21.310
<v Speaker 1>many of these questions. What is the next thing? Surely

0:29:21.370 --> 0:29:23.590
<v Speaker 1>the glorious creative itch will be back.

0:29:23.710 --> 0:29:28.390
<v Speaker 2>Of course. It's never left. Gemma and I, we have never, okay,

0:29:28.550 --> 0:29:32.870
<v Speaker 2>lots of things. We are a completely independent operation. So

0:29:32.910 --> 0:29:35.070
<v Speaker 2>lots of people, when they do live performances, they work

0:29:35.090 --> 0:29:38.290
<v Speaker 2>with a touring company or they work with producers or whatever.

0:29:38.590 --> 0:29:43.000
<v Speaker 2>We have always done our tour, like literally the three

0:29:43.020 --> 0:29:45.130
<v Speaker 2>of us plus show daddy, four of us. And then

0:29:45.290 --> 0:29:48.150
<v Speaker 2>there's other people we bring in as contractors and But

0:29:48.170 --> 0:29:50.610
<v Speaker 2>the team never gets bigger than seven people. Now that's

0:29:50.730 --> 0:29:54.870
<v Speaker 2>fucking ridiculous. It's bananas. It's actually bananas. It's bananas. And

0:29:54.910 --> 0:29:58.380
<v Speaker 2>it worked really well year one. And then like many

0:29:58.560 --> 0:30:01.020
<v Speaker 2>small businesses, I guess, and I know it's not quite

0:30:01.040 --> 0:30:03.140
<v Speaker 2>a small business because it's a different world, but like,

0:30:03.360 --> 0:30:05.820
<v Speaker 2>you know, it grows quicker than you can resource it.

0:30:06.220 --> 0:30:10.140
<v Speaker 2>And it was like, it's just an absolutely mammoth job

0:30:10.300 --> 0:30:14.180
<v Speaker 2>to mount something that size with the size of team. Yes,

0:30:14.180 --> 0:30:16.630
<v Speaker 2>it is. And, like, I think we flew very close

0:30:16.690 --> 0:30:20.190
<v Speaker 2>to the sun with burning out, like, absolutely everybody in

0:30:20.250 --> 0:30:24.540
<v Speaker 2>our team, including ourselves. Now, that doesn't mean that was

0:30:24.580 --> 0:30:27.420
<v Speaker 2>enough for us to stop doing it. But add to that,

0:30:27.660 --> 0:30:31.290
<v Speaker 2>you know, a global cost of living crisis, which means

0:30:31.660 --> 0:30:36.010
<v Speaker 2>everything changes. And I'm not talking... Like you guys, like

0:30:36.090 --> 0:30:39.030
<v Speaker 2>you've all showed up, tickets sell, you come, you want

0:30:39.070 --> 0:30:40.770
<v Speaker 2>the show and we want to give it to you.

0:30:40.810 --> 0:30:47.840
<v Speaker 2>So that relationship has never changed, but it's everything else. Flights, freight, merch, accommodation,

0:30:47.860 --> 0:30:51.160
<v Speaker 2>the venue policies, all the venue policies, the cost of

0:30:51.260 --> 0:30:53.820
<v Speaker 2>the venues, the percentages that they take from merch, like

0:30:53.900 --> 0:30:57.230
<v Speaker 2>ticketing platforms, like absolutely every, as you know, in your

0:30:57.390 --> 0:30:59.850
<v Speaker 2>life and we know in our lives, every single cost

0:31:00.030 --> 0:31:02.590
<v Speaker 2>in the world has gone up. due to all the

0:31:02.830 --> 0:31:05.350
<v Speaker 2>things going on in the world. So that made it

0:31:05.450 --> 0:31:09.150
<v Speaker 2>prohibitively expensive to put this on. That's why we couldn't

0:31:09.170 --> 0:31:10.900
<v Speaker 2>go to Perth. That's why we couldn't go back to London.

0:31:11.060 --> 0:31:15.959
<v Speaker 2>And we were like, wow, it's becoming fiscally irresponsible to

0:31:16.020 --> 0:31:18.290
<v Speaker 2>do this project in the way we've always done it.

0:31:18.540 --> 0:31:20.760
<v Speaker 2>But we don't want to do it any other way

0:31:20.860 --> 0:31:22.520
<v Speaker 2>because Gem and I are always going to give our

0:31:22.580 --> 0:31:25.900
<v Speaker 2>full creative souls. And our kids are getting older. Our

0:31:25.960 --> 0:31:29.610
<v Speaker 2>responsibilities are getting bigger at home. Definitely. You know, even

0:31:29.650 --> 0:31:30.110
<v Speaker 2>just in 2023, we could.

0:31:31.610 --> 0:31:33.930
<v Speaker 2>Sweat equity it a lot more, but you know, we

0:31:33.950 --> 0:31:37.670
<v Speaker 2>just can't now in our lives. And so we're like, okay,

0:31:37.830 --> 0:31:40.330
<v Speaker 2>it's time for a break from this to sort of

0:31:40.550 --> 0:31:43.490
<v Speaker 2>come back to center and sort of see where our

0:31:43.590 --> 0:31:45.910
<v Speaker 2>audience wants us to be and how we can best

0:31:45.970 --> 0:31:49.630
<v Speaker 2>serve them. Because yeah, it's just started to become a

0:31:49.670 --> 0:31:52.110
<v Speaker 2>situation where we're like, we're either going to take so

0:31:52.170 --> 0:31:54.210
<v Speaker 2>much from us to deliver this, or we're going to

0:31:54.260 --> 0:31:56.469
<v Speaker 2>take too much from our audience to make it happen.

0:31:56.630 --> 0:32:03.640
<v Speaker 2>And And also a natural thing happened where the canon

0:32:03.680 --> 0:32:06.680
<v Speaker 2>of four shows started to feel right for us. And

0:32:06.780 --> 0:32:09.520
<v Speaker 2>do we have more to say in this format and

0:32:09.620 --> 0:32:12.620
<v Speaker 2>form on stage? What was really cool about the evolution

0:32:12.660 --> 0:32:14.900
<v Speaker 2>of the shows is we started to find our form,

0:32:15.440 --> 0:32:18.400
<v Speaker 2>particularly in Sorry for Existing in year two, that we went, oh,

0:32:18.440 --> 0:32:21.220
<v Speaker 2>this really works. And this amount of AV videos and

0:32:21.280 --> 0:32:24.020
<v Speaker 2>costume changes and the length of the show changed between

0:32:24.060 --> 0:32:25.920
<v Speaker 2>year one and year two. And then we thought, wow,

0:32:25.960 --> 0:32:28.640
<v Speaker 2>we can sustain a two hour show with no interval

0:32:28.660 --> 0:32:30.790
<v Speaker 2>and But then, of course, with the growth of time

0:32:30.980 --> 0:32:33.870
<v Speaker 2>on stage and creating content for that is the budget

0:32:34.430 --> 0:32:36.990
<v Speaker 2>and all of that stuff. So in terms of the

0:32:37.050 --> 0:32:40.479
<v Speaker 2>well-roundedness of the four shows, it also feels right to

0:32:40.520 --> 0:32:43.020
<v Speaker 2>start at Can We Not Evolve and finish on Know

0:32:43.060 --> 0:32:46.100
<v Speaker 2>Thyself and then ending it with the Elder Witches piece.

0:32:46.140 --> 0:32:49.470
<v Speaker 2>It all just felt right. really right for Revs and I.

0:32:49.490 --> 0:32:52.610
<v Speaker 2>Gem and I are very intuitive with our decision making

0:32:52.790 --> 0:32:55.730
<v Speaker 2>and we're very in sync with this and so in

0:32:55.870 --> 0:32:59.890
<v Speaker 2>sync when the team and the universe bring questions to

0:32:59.990 --> 0:33:02.600
<v Speaker 2>us we usually are very quick to go yeah this

0:33:02.800 --> 0:33:04.740
<v Speaker 2>feels like the right thing to do and that's what

0:33:04.760 --> 0:33:06.980
<v Speaker 2>happened in the back we couldn't have been more aligned

0:33:07.080 --> 0:33:09.680
<v Speaker 2>actually yeah we were on that yeah I'm like no

0:33:09.740 --> 0:33:12.260
<v Speaker 2>it's time to call it which was really cool because

0:33:12.300 --> 0:33:14.440
<v Speaker 2>that would have been quite tragic If one of us

0:33:14.480 --> 0:33:17.590
<v Speaker 2>wanted to keep going and the other was done. So

0:33:17.750 --> 0:33:20.030
<v Speaker 2>the other thing is in the background, we've had lots

0:33:20.090 --> 0:33:22.560
<v Speaker 2>of different opportunities come our way, which we are very

0:33:22.620 --> 0:33:25.260
<v Speaker 2>grateful for. And there's one in particular that in the

0:33:25.300 --> 0:33:27.730
<v Speaker 2>same intuitive way, Gemma and I really want to give

0:33:27.790 --> 0:33:31.290
<v Speaker 2>ourselves over to. And it's scary and it's very different

0:33:31.330 --> 0:33:33.670
<v Speaker 2>for us. And it's going to require a lot of,

0:33:33.910 --> 0:33:37.230
<v Speaker 2>you know, far less control, which we've always loved to have.

0:33:37.270 --> 0:33:40.210
<v Speaker 2>But we are feeling like we're in a brave, creative

0:33:40.250 --> 0:33:42.510
<v Speaker 2>and personal place in our lives where we are ready

0:33:42.630 --> 0:33:47.310
<v Speaker 2>to collaborate with other creatives. And we really want to

0:33:47.630 --> 0:33:50.750
<v Speaker 2>fully lean into this opportunity. The thing is, this opportunity

0:33:50.830 --> 0:33:55.710
<v Speaker 2>has been in our hand for 18 months. and we

0:33:55.800 --> 0:33:58.320
<v Speaker 2>haven't been able to give it our all. And I

0:33:58.360 --> 0:34:01.340
<v Speaker 2>think we both collectively agreed it's time to carve out

0:34:01.400 --> 0:34:04.219
<v Speaker 2>space for that. Otherwise it will never happen and we

0:34:04.280 --> 0:34:08.600
<v Speaker 2>might miss that opportunity. So this is us agreeing to that,

0:34:08.680 --> 0:34:10.450
<v Speaker 2>to take a risk. Yep. And it may not pay

0:34:10.489 --> 0:34:12.590
<v Speaker 2>off and it may, and that's, we're not being deliberately obtuse.

0:34:12.650 --> 0:34:14.170
<v Speaker 2>It's just, we have nothing to tell you yet, but

0:34:14.230 --> 0:34:17.850
<v Speaker 2>don't worry, you'll be the first. us to know you'll

0:34:17.870 --> 0:34:19.930
<v Speaker 2>be sick of us you'll be so sick of us

0:34:20.010 --> 0:34:22.339
<v Speaker 2>when we if we can pull it off so stay

0:34:22.360 --> 0:34:25.200
<v Speaker 2>tuned stay tuned watch this space don't worry like our

0:34:25.239 --> 0:34:27.839
<v Speaker 2>creativity ain't going nowhere and we're always going to be

0:34:27.920 --> 0:34:31.239
<v Speaker 2>making things we love making things so that's particularly for

0:34:31.300 --> 0:34:33.689
<v Speaker 2>you dl yeah I don't want to speak for you, Gem,

0:34:33.710 --> 0:34:36.610
<v Speaker 2>but like I had a moment after the final show

0:34:36.830 --> 0:34:39.049
<v Speaker 2>because we got a beautiful DM and we had, thank

0:34:39.090 --> 0:34:41.950
<v Speaker 2>you so much for all your love letters. Honestly, we

0:34:41.989 --> 0:34:45.740
<v Speaker 2>read every single one. They touch us. They mean everything

0:34:45.780 --> 0:34:49.020
<v Speaker 2>to us because we genuinely do do this for the

0:34:49.060 --> 0:34:51.500
<v Speaker 2>community and the audience. We do. And it means everything

0:34:51.540 --> 0:34:53.930
<v Speaker 2>to us that it lands when it lands. And I

0:34:53.989 --> 0:34:55.650
<v Speaker 2>did have a moment where I was like, there is

0:34:55.750 --> 0:34:59.609
<v Speaker 2>no form in the world that brings people together like

0:34:59.650 --> 0:35:02.489
<v Speaker 2>live theater. There isn't like in the live event, like,

0:35:02.690 --> 0:35:05.150
<v Speaker 2>you know, a book can't do that. A movie can't

0:35:05.210 --> 0:35:07.650
<v Speaker 2>do that. A podcast can't do that. Like it can

0:35:07.690 --> 0:35:09.810
<v Speaker 2>do a version of it. And it doesn't mean there's

0:35:10.050 --> 0:35:12.180
<v Speaker 2>anything wrong with any other form. But I was like,

0:35:12.380 --> 0:35:15.339
<v Speaker 2>this has been a magical era for this reason. We

0:35:15.400 --> 0:35:18.460
<v Speaker 2>have been women coming together to commune together over this

0:35:18.920 --> 0:35:23.700
<v Speaker 2>very vulnerable from us and very generous from you guys event.

0:35:24.020 --> 0:35:27.319
<v Speaker 2>And it really landed on me that it's been like

0:35:27.340 --> 0:35:30.530
<v Speaker 2>a sincerely special time for that reason. Well, I think

0:35:30.830 --> 0:35:33.830
<v Speaker 2>behind the scenes or what a DL who isn't doing

0:35:33.850 --> 0:35:36.629
<v Speaker 2>the Vittle experience isn't privy to is we get to

0:35:36.790 --> 0:35:39.790
<v Speaker 2>have conversations with you guys and we learn of the

0:35:39.830 --> 0:35:43.110
<v Speaker 2>journey of how you ended up here. And the stories

0:35:43.170 --> 0:35:46.360
<v Speaker 2>that touch Revs and I the most are that friends

0:35:46.560 --> 0:35:49.180
<v Speaker 2>were forged in fire off the back of the podcast

0:35:49.520 --> 0:35:52.700
<v Speaker 2>and that a community was born and people who felt

0:35:52.760 --> 0:35:56.000
<v Speaker 2>so alone in their motherhood journey found their people. And

0:35:56.100 --> 0:35:58.480
<v Speaker 2>that was the story that kept coming up. And when

0:35:58.540 --> 0:36:01.410
<v Speaker 2>Revs is like, there's no other genre of creativity that

0:36:01.530 --> 0:36:04.450
<v Speaker 2>does this. I know what you're referring to. And that

0:36:04.690 --> 0:36:08.890
<v Speaker 2>is this collective community of coming together, this sharedness, this communion.

0:36:09.510 --> 0:36:13.440
<v Speaker 2>Like without sounding wanky, it did feel like church. Yeah, 100%.

0:36:13.440 --> 0:36:15.920
<v Speaker 2>It really did. And, you know, you can go to

0:36:15.980 --> 0:36:18.739
<v Speaker 2>a musical and you can be moved and touched by

0:36:18.780 --> 0:36:23.020
<v Speaker 2>the story, but For us, the tears, the laughter, it's

0:36:23.100 --> 0:36:27.500
<v Speaker 2>so unified and it's layered. And it's personal. It's deeply personal. Yeah.

0:36:27.520 --> 0:36:29.990
<v Speaker 2>And it's beyond just the joke that's being cracked doors

0:36:30.090 --> 0:36:32.640
<v Speaker 2>on stage or the moving piece of video content. It

0:36:32.760 --> 0:36:36.610
<v Speaker 2>extends well beyond that. Yeah. And DLs are our fucking people.

0:36:36.630 --> 0:36:39.830
<v Speaker 2>That's right. And there is that shared understanding of one another,

0:36:39.850 --> 0:36:41.930
<v Speaker 2>even if we haven't met. Yeah. You know, the moment

0:36:41.950 --> 0:36:44.430
<v Speaker 2>we meet one of you DLs in the middle line,

0:36:44.489 --> 0:36:46.270
<v Speaker 2>it's like, no, we get each other because a lot

0:36:46.290 --> 0:36:48.650
<v Speaker 2>of people are like, we know so much about you. Yeah.

0:36:49.130 --> 0:36:51.170
<v Speaker 2>And you don't know anything about me. And it's like, yeah,

0:36:51.190 --> 0:36:54.160
<v Speaker 2>but there's a familiarity. I may not know you yet,

0:36:54.200 --> 0:36:56.080
<v Speaker 2>but I know you're a DL. So I know I

0:36:56.120 --> 0:36:58.680
<v Speaker 2>kind of got a good jumpstart on the kind of

0:36:58.700 --> 0:37:01.810
<v Speaker 2>person you are. It's so unique and it's so special,

0:37:01.870 --> 0:37:04.549
<v Speaker 2>particularly the stories of DLs being like, oh, I was

0:37:04.610 --> 0:37:07.719
<v Speaker 2>in like a book club. And someone made a comment

0:37:07.820 --> 0:37:09.919
<v Speaker 2>and I was like, wait, are you a DL? Yeah.

0:37:10.140 --> 0:37:13.120
<v Speaker 2>And then from then, you know, they became friends. Yeah.

0:37:13.239 --> 0:37:16.340
<v Speaker 2>And connected that way. It's a shorthand to friendship. 100%.

0:37:16.340 --> 0:37:17.960
<v Speaker 2>Put it that way. Women seeing each other at the

0:37:18.040 --> 0:37:20.430
<v Speaker 2>other end of the beach in the hat and going,

0:37:20.810 --> 0:37:23.310
<v Speaker 2>that's a DL, striking up a conversation. The kids are

0:37:23.330 --> 0:37:25.650
<v Speaker 2>the same age and now they're friends. Yeah. Like that

0:37:25.690 --> 0:37:29.759
<v Speaker 2>is so like unbelievably cool and special to us. And

0:37:29.820 --> 0:37:31.739
<v Speaker 2>it's the thing that Revs and I are probably most

0:37:31.800 --> 0:37:34.540
<v Speaker 2>proud of. Absolutely. And it's the thing that hit us

0:37:34.660 --> 0:37:37.919
<v Speaker 2>hardest on closing night at Melbourne. Yeah. But the thing

0:37:38.040 --> 0:37:42.220
<v Speaker 2>is you guys realign us. Like we obviously are creative nerds.

0:37:42.460 --> 0:37:46.030
<v Speaker 2>We can get very esoteric in our, for example, let's

0:37:46.050 --> 0:37:47.950
<v Speaker 2>do a scene from The Crucible. Like, you know, like

0:37:47.989 --> 0:37:52.770
<v Speaker 2>we can get very into our creative techniques and things,

0:37:53.150 --> 0:37:56.550
<v Speaker 2>but you guys always bring us back to the point

0:37:56.610 --> 0:37:59.450
<v Speaker 2>of it all and it keep us going. Keep us

0:37:59.550 --> 0:38:01.930
<v Speaker 2>real about like what we're putting out into the world

0:38:02.070 --> 0:38:04.799
<v Speaker 2>and what we want our contribution to be. And you know,

0:38:04.840 --> 0:38:06.460
<v Speaker 2>it always comes back to the same thing. When you

0:38:06.480 --> 0:38:09.160
<v Speaker 2>tell the truth about an experience, even if it feels

0:38:09.360 --> 0:38:14.080
<v Speaker 2>so specific to you, it's probably universal. And it often is.

0:38:14.180 --> 0:38:17.420
<v Speaker 2>It's generous to share it. Yeah. So that's what you

0:38:17.440 --> 0:38:20.000
<v Speaker 2>guys do. You realign us and bring us back to ourselves,

0:38:20.239 --> 0:38:22.880
<v Speaker 2>which makes us all feel together, which is pretty special.

0:38:23.120 --> 0:38:24.779
<v Speaker 2>I did have a moment I was like, I'm going

0:38:24.800 --> 0:38:28.780
<v Speaker 2>to miss this. It was very bittersweet at closing night.

0:38:28.800 --> 0:38:31.690
<v Speaker 2>It was very double-edged. And even though I know the

0:38:31.730 --> 0:38:35.550
<v Speaker 2>decision is right, I still grieve what we're going to miss.

0:38:35.790 --> 0:38:39.570
<v Speaker 2>And I think it's that conversation from stage to audience

0:38:39.630 --> 0:38:44.090
<v Speaker 2>between us and the DLs and just the electric energy

0:38:44.110 --> 0:38:48.930
<v Speaker 2>in the room that is just palpable and cannot be repeated.

0:38:48.950 --> 0:38:51.790
<v Speaker 2>I I foresee, and I'm not talking anytime soon, I

0:38:51.870 --> 0:38:54.630
<v Speaker 2>hope we come back to the live medium in our

0:38:54.670 --> 0:38:58.950
<v Speaker 2>career and in our creative collab together. I think we'll

0:38:58.969 --> 0:39:00.940
<v Speaker 2>come back there in some form. But, yeah, this has

0:39:00.980 --> 0:39:05.000
<v Speaker 2>been like a very important and very special little capsule

0:39:05.020 --> 0:39:08.660
<v Speaker 2>of time. What's the word that's not trilogy? Quality? Like

0:39:08.880 --> 0:39:11.299
<v Speaker 2>we have a season of four. There's got to be

0:39:11.320 --> 0:39:15.320
<v Speaker 2>a word for it. I just can't think of it. Quartet? Quartet. Yeah, quartet.

0:39:15.340 --> 0:39:18.420
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. quality I like quality it's not a

0:39:18.460 --> 0:39:21.700
<v Speaker 2>trifecta it's not a trilogy it's four but it feels

0:39:21.739 --> 0:39:24.089
<v Speaker 2>fucking right it's funny I remember when we got to

0:39:24.110 --> 0:39:26.029
<v Speaker 2>three I was like well probably we'll stop at three

0:39:26.050 --> 0:39:29.370
<v Speaker 2>because it's like a natural yeah and then we yeah anyway.

0:39:29.350 --> 0:39:33.990
<v Speaker 1>How exhausting is the viddle experience after the two hour

0:39:34.030 --> 0:39:36.590
<v Speaker 1>show oh my gosh you always ask us this okay

0:39:36.739 --> 0:39:39.509
<v Speaker 1>this is layered but like honestly when you come off

0:39:39.530 --> 0:39:41.180
<v Speaker 1>stage you're buzzing hi.

0:39:41.000 --> 0:39:42.719
<v Speaker 2>As a kite hi as a kite it's like an

0:39:42.760 --> 0:39:45.340
<v Speaker 2>adrenaline shot yeah like even if you got picked up

0:39:45.380 --> 0:39:48.160
<v Speaker 2>from the wings it's And delivered to a bed straight away.

0:39:48.180 --> 0:39:51.140
<v Speaker 2>You wouldn't be going to sleep for hours. No chance.

0:39:51.400 --> 0:39:54.339
<v Speaker 2>And also like the day it's like leading up, you know,

0:39:54.360 --> 0:39:57.390
<v Speaker 2>your wedding day, it's like all day you're preparing the anticipation,

0:39:57.410 --> 0:39:59.230
<v Speaker 2>you're leading up to it. And then there's no way

0:39:59.250 --> 0:40:01.509
<v Speaker 2>you're like tired at the end of that. It's more like, ah.

0:40:02.150 --> 0:40:05.180
<v Speaker 2>like a big breath out also we really mean it

0:40:05.340 --> 0:40:08.780
<v Speaker 2>meeting you guys is a privilege it brings us home

0:40:08.920 --> 0:40:11.339
<v Speaker 2>to the why we do this and we hear all

0:40:11.380 --> 0:40:13.640
<v Speaker 2>your stories about how you found the podcast how you

0:40:13.660 --> 0:40:16.040
<v Speaker 2>found each other why you're here what it means to

0:40:16.100 --> 0:40:19.669
<v Speaker 2>you and I mean a DL traveled from California like

0:40:19.770 --> 0:40:22.770
<v Speaker 2>crazy that just blows my damn mind and I feel

0:40:23.010 --> 0:40:25.129
<v Speaker 2>not worthy yeah.

0:40:24.670 --> 0:40:27.150
<v Speaker 1>And another DL gifted her viddle hmm.

0:40:27.370 --> 0:40:29.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like I mean there it is.

0:40:29.210 --> 0:40:29.750
<v Speaker 1>How amazing is that?

0:40:29.770 --> 0:40:32.710
<v Speaker 2>Like how incredible, the generosity of spirit from the DL

0:40:32.750 --> 0:40:35.910
<v Speaker 2>community who sees the efforts of others. There's no way

0:40:35.950 --> 0:40:37.680
<v Speaker 2>we don't want to be part of that. Like we

0:40:37.739 --> 0:40:39.940
<v Speaker 2>love it. We love getting in there and meeting you

0:40:39.960 --> 0:40:43.280
<v Speaker 2>guys and seeing you. Like the whole thing is exhausting, sure,

0:40:43.300 --> 0:40:47.240
<v Speaker 2>but like we're dead the next morning. Like any project-based work,

0:40:47.380 --> 0:40:49.700
<v Speaker 2>you're wrecked at the end of it but you are

0:40:49.820 --> 0:40:51.500
<v Speaker 2>in it when you're in it, you know. Yeah, because

0:40:51.540 --> 0:40:55.500
<v Speaker 2>the whole day is a huge energy exchange. Like I

0:40:55.540 --> 0:40:58.919
<v Speaker 2>can't minimise that at all. We do feel like we've

0:40:58.940 --> 0:41:02.360
<v Speaker 2>been hit by freight trains the next week after and

0:41:02.380 --> 0:41:04.790
<v Speaker 2>then we have to slowly gather ourselves and get prepped

0:41:04.850 --> 0:41:07.810
<v Speaker 2>and pull it together to do another show. I reflect

0:41:07.890 --> 0:41:10.430
<v Speaker 2>on how we did London shows on a Tuesday and

0:41:10.469 --> 0:41:13.609
<v Speaker 2>by Thursday we were opening at the Sydney Opera House.

0:41:13.710 --> 0:41:16.029
<v Speaker 2>I think we all collectively agree that was nuts. That

0:41:16.070 --> 0:41:19.190
<v Speaker 2>was insane. Absolutely crazy. Like I don't know how we

0:41:19.469 --> 0:41:21.700
<v Speaker 2>did that in hindsight, but we had no choice. We'd

0:41:21.739 --> 0:41:24.239
<v Speaker 2>never done it before. We were strapping, let's fucking go.

0:41:24.800 --> 0:41:29.160
<v Speaker 2>So you can dig deep and find the energy somehow, but, yeah,

0:41:29.200 --> 0:41:31.200
<v Speaker 2>you just pay for it after. Yeah, exactly.

0:41:31.540 --> 0:41:34.400
<v Speaker 1>Are we ever going to find out the secret filming

0:41:34.460 --> 0:41:36.570
<v Speaker 1>project that ended in Rafa the Great?

0:41:37.630 --> 0:41:41.250
<v Speaker 2>Ah, yeah, maybe. I don't know. Well, basically we had

0:41:41.489 --> 0:41:44.690
<v Speaker 2>a documentary crew with us during that year that we

0:41:44.770 --> 0:41:46.650
<v Speaker 2>were doing Sorry for Existing.

0:41:46.890 --> 0:41:48.750
<v Speaker 1>Very Taylor Swift style. Sure.

0:41:48.770 --> 0:41:52.930
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. We don't know what will happen with that. Things

0:41:52.969 --> 0:41:55.410
<v Speaker 2>like this, guys, they take a lot of time. They

0:41:55.430 --> 0:41:58.759
<v Speaker 2>take a lot of resources. Sometimes it starts and it stops.

0:41:58.860 --> 0:42:03.480
<v Speaker 2>Budgets run out. People's interest in the projects run out, whatever.

0:42:03.680 --> 0:42:06.580
<v Speaker 2>But nothing is happening with that at the moment. I

0:42:06.620 --> 0:42:10.500
<v Speaker 2>feel like it was very... Serendipitous. Serendipitous. And because it

0:42:10.560 --> 0:42:13.020
<v Speaker 2>gave so much to that show. And I would say

0:42:13.300 --> 0:42:16.759
<v Speaker 2>personally of the four shows, that's the show I'm most

0:42:16.860 --> 0:42:20.069
<v Speaker 2>proud of for that last 20 minutes of the show.

0:42:20.690 --> 0:42:24.569
<v Speaker 2>Sorry for Existing was a very special year. The more

0:42:24.650 --> 0:42:27.540
<v Speaker 2>I reflect back on it, the more I'm like, oh,

0:42:27.760 --> 0:42:31.200
<v Speaker 2>and we had the trenches in it. And Bridgerton. And Bridgerton.

0:42:31.239 --> 0:42:34.279
<v Speaker 2>We had so many pieces that kind of were, that

0:42:34.380 --> 0:42:37.580
<v Speaker 2>sparked the ideas for the future years. But yeah, there

0:42:37.600 --> 0:42:40.189
<v Speaker 2>was something very uniquely special. And to use the word

0:42:40.290 --> 0:42:43.290
<v Speaker 2>serendipitous again, it's true. Like that would not have happened

0:42:43.330 --> 0:42:46.230
<v Speaker 2>if we didn't have that documentary crew filming there that day.

0:42:46.250 --> 0:42:48.290
<v Speaker 2>It was almost all meant to be Like as a

0:42:48.330 --> 0:42:52.750
<v Speaker 2>culmination to create that beautiful piece. Yeah. But what Revs

0:42:52.770 --> 0:42:55.530
<v Speaker 2>and I can say is we own all that footage

0:42:55.850 --> 0:42:59.109
<v Speaker 2>from the people who captured it. What's going ahead with that?

0:42:59.160 --> 0:43:01.620
<v Speaker 2>We don't know. It wasn't in our control. Yeah. But

0:43:01.680 --> 0:43:05.000
<v Speaker 2>it's there. It's alive. But it's there. And who knows?

0:43:05.140 --> 0:43:10.040
<v Speaker 2>Unlike everything I filmed before. 2008 that got lost in

0:43:10.080 --> 0:43:14.580
<v Speaker 2>my mum's garage. Hopefully it will be safe. Let's hope.

0:43:14.780 --> 0:43:17.109
<v Speaker 2>And archived. As long as we can keep paying those

0:43:17.170 --> 0:43:18.530
<v Speaker 2>cloud dollar dollar bills.

0:43:19.150 --> 0:43:22.670
<v Speaker 1>How much did the microphone issues in Melbourne throw you?

0:43:22.770 --> 0:43:25.070
<v Speaker 1>You handled it so professionally well.

0:43:25.190 --> 0:43:27.430
<v Speaker 2>Yes, we did handle it well, I thought. Yeah. It

0:43:27.510 --> 0:43:30.340
<v Speaker 2>throws you. It definitely does. For those who weren't at

0:43:30.380 --> 0:43:33.960
<v Speaker 2>that show, Jem's mic just kept dying, basically. In both

0:43:34.060 --> 0:43:36.500
<v Speaker 2>the Melbourne shows. It did it on the first night

0:43:36.580 --> 0:43:38.219
<v Speaker 2>and then again on the second night. And then we

0:43:38.260 --> 0:43:40.509
<v Speaker 2>went through a third microphone on the second night. Like

0:43:40.570 --> 0:43:42.770
<v Speaker 2>it was a whole schmuzzle. But the thing I'm most

0:43:42.830 --> 0:43:46.109
<v Speaker 2>proud of is that four years of touring under our

0:43:46.170 --> 0:43:48.890
<v Speaker 2>belt has meant that Revs and I don't feel that

0:43:48.989 --> 0:43:52.060
<v Speaker 2>rising panic in those moments. Had it been year one

0:43:52.200 --> 0:43:55.219
<v Speaker 2>or even year two... it would have absolutely thrown me

0:43:55.500 --> 0:43:58.259
<v Speaker 2>for the rest of the show. But it didn't. And

0:43:58.300 --> 0:44:00.400
<v Speaker 2>it didn't throw you at all. No, I don't. I've

0:44:00.440 --> 0:44:02.700
<v Speaker 2>actually come to learn about myself through the shows. I

0:44:02.969 --> 0:44:05.589
<v Speaker 2>prefer not those moments where things go wrong. I don't

0:44:05.630 --> 0:44:08.009
<v Speaker 2>love things going wrong. I'm a director at heart and

0:44:08.090 --> 0:44:11.410
<v Speaker 2>I like things to go how we want them to go. However,

0:44:11.770 --> 0:44:16.299
<v Speaker 2>I really love audience interaction. I like riffing. I like

0:44:16.560 --> 0:44:20.200
<v Speaker 2>ad lib. Like I really like the live, live. Same.

0:44:20.340 --> 0:44:24.120
<v Speaker 2>Not planned and planned. and rehearsed and stuff, I prefer

0:44:24.180 --> 0:44:27.379
<v Speaker 2>it because I feel like it's more. Alive. It's more

0:44:27.400 --> 0:44:30.259
<v Speaker 2>alive and also you can't get it wrong. No. So

0:44:30.320 --> 0:44:31.859
<v Speaker 2>it's quite freeing, you know.

0:44:31.890 --> 0:44:32.120
<v Speaker 1>It is.

0:44:32.219 --> 0:44:34.870
<v Speaker 2>And I feel comfortable in that space, which surprised me,

0:44:35.010 --> 0:44:37.930
<v Speaker 2>really surprised me about myself. I feel exactly the same.

0:44:38.150 --> 0:44:41.770
<v Speaker 2>I love being forced to be on my toes, particularly

0:44:41.810 --> 0:44:43.669
<v Speaker 2>by the time we get to Melbourne shows. The show

0:44:43.730 --> 0:44:45.930
<v Speaker 2>is so in hand. We've done it many times. It's

0:44:45.969 --> 0:44:48.810
<v Speaker 2>feeling good. I don't feel on my toes in those moments.

0:44:48.870 --> 0:44:51.940
<v Speaker 2>I feel more comfortable. Ah. I feel on my toes

0:44:52.140 --> 0:44:55.000
<v Speaker 2>doing the medley, do you know what I mean, or singing. See,

0:44:55.020 --> 0:44:58.130
<v Speaker 2>I'm very comfortable in that because it's so rehearsed. No,

0:44:58.160 --> 0:45:00.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm the opposite because I'm like I know how this

0:45:00.260 --> 0:45:03.489
<v Speaker 2>needs to be. There's an excitation. There's a pressure. And

0:45:03.530 --> 0:45:06.529
<v Speaker 2>if I don't get this right, like I'm very down

0:45:06.590 --> 0:45:09.029
<v Speaker 2>on myself, whereas I reckon my heart rate if I

0:45:09.050 --> 0:45:11.629
<v Speaker 2>had a watch on or a ring or whatever would

0:45:11.670 --> 0:45:15.360
<v Speaker 2>be very chill in an ad-lib moment. Oh, really? Yeah.

0:45:15.380 --> 0:45:17.940
<v Speaker 2>Because for me it's like being on my toes means

0:45:18.060 --> 0:45:21.420
<v Speaker 2>I'm awake. it takes me out of autopilot which I

0:45:21.460 --> 0:45:24.180
<v Speaker 2>can slip into when something is so well rehearsed which

0:45:24.200 --> 0:45:28.110
<v Speaker 2>doesn't feel as exciting you know so when I'm forced

0:45:28.210 --> 0:45:30.290
<v Speaker 2>to like oh I've got to improv I've got to

0:45:30.330 --> 0:45:32.250
<v Speaker 2>come up with some funny adrenaline it's a bit of

0:45:32.290 --> 0:45:35.350
<v Speaker 2>an adrenaline dump in the best way yeah yeah so

0:45:35.430 --> 0:45:38.299
<v Speaker 2>I really I enjoy it but the difference is if

0:45:38.360 --> 0:45:41.219
<v Speaker 2>it was year one I would have had panic and

0:45:41.260 --> 0:45:43.520
<v Speaker 2>I would have lifted in my performance but in year

0:45:43.560 --> 0:45:45.460
<v Speaker 2>four I was like it's fine It's fine. We're going

0:45:45.480 --> 0:45:46.980
<v Speaker 2>to be fine. No one's having a terrible time. No.

0:45:47.300 --> 0:45:49.529
<v Speaker 2>In fact, this is fun for them because it's very sausagey.

0:45:49.610 --> 0:45:51.150
<v Speaker 2>In fact, a lot of people was like, that was

0:45:51.190 --> 0:45:53.590
<v Speaker 2>my favorite bit. And we're like, oh God, why do

0:45:53.630 --> 0:45:55.730
<v Speaker 2>we try so hard? Why do we try? Well, the

0:45:55.790 --> 0:45:58.279
<v Speaker 2>funny thing is, or the ironic thing is, is the

0:45:58.300 --> 0:46:01.980
<v Speaker 2>DLs go, that was planned. And we're like, no, it wasn't.

0:46:02.000 --> 0:46:04.450
<v Speaker 2>They're like, it was a bit. It was a bit.

0:46:04.489 --> 0:46:06.430
<v Speaker 2>The mic was meant to cut out and then you

0:46:06.469 --> 0:46:09.490
<v Speaker 2>guys do that. We know you two and we're like, nope.

0:46:09.810 --> 0:46:13.980
<v Speaker 1>It was absolutely not planned and all of us backstage.

0:46:14.000 --> 0:46:14.980
<v Speaker 2>Katie was freaking out.

0:46:15.200 --> 0:46:18.560
<v Speaker 1>We're absolutely freaking out and shout out to Eden, who

0:46:18.600 --> 0:46:23.109
<v Speaker 1>was our audio technician in Melbourne. She was amazing. But

0:46:23.170 --> 0:46:24.930
<v Speaker 1>all of us were freaking out.

0:46:25.270 --> 0:46:27.270
<v Speaker 2>I could see you guys running back and forth in

0:46:27.290 --> 0:46:29.670
<v Speaker 2>the bio box and I was like, oh yeah, let's

0:46:29.690 --> 0:46:31.390
<v Speaker 2>panic up there. I guess we'll just be calm on

0:46:31.410 --> 0:46:32.930
<v Speaker 2>stage because what else is there to do?

0:46:33.570 --> 0:46:36.410
<v Speaker 1>Was there anything else that went wrong? Went wrong in

0:46:37.140 --> 0:46:37.799
<v Speaker 1>quotation marks?

0:46:37.980 --> 0:46:41.660
<v Speaker 2>Like some cues or like. you know sound little technical

0:46:41.719 --> 0:46:44.500
<v Speaker 2>things sometimes you sound check something and then the audience

0:46:44.520 --> 0:46:47.200
<v Speaker 2>fills up with 500 people and the sound is different

0:46:47.400 --> 0:46:49.900
<v Speaker 2>you know but no not i don't think so oh

0:46:49.920 --> 0:46:53.270
<v Speaker 2>yeah well in adelaide because we were so chill oh

0:46:53.290 --> 0:46:55.810
<v Speaker 2>we nearly missed our entrance didn't make it on stage

0:46:55.850 --> 0:46:58.450
<v Speaker 2>in time but which one oh remember we were texting

0:46:58.489 --> 0:47:01.109
<v Speaker 2>you being like don't start the show don't start the show.

0:47:01.050 --> 0:47:03.650
<v Speaker 1>And then katie's like i'm starting those divas didn't want

0:47:03.670 --> 0:47:05.630
<v Speaker 1>to get into their costume we.

0:47:05.530 --> 0:47:07.360
<v Speaker 2>Had started to but then we were like oh my

0:47:07.380 --> 0:47:08.980
<v Speaker 2>god we're not gonna be ready we lost track of

0:47:09.040 --> 0:47:12.460
<v Speaker 2>time I remember it being so showtime is seven o'clock

0:47:12.540 --> 0:47:14.739
<v Speaker 2>and I remember looking at my phone and being like

0:47:14.980 --> 0:47:17.920
<v Speaker 2>oh my god it's 6 53 and I'm not in

0:47:17.980 --> 0:47:21.620
<v Speaker 2>my corset and the corset takes 10 minutes per person

0:47:21.660 --> 0:47:24.060
<v Speaker 2>so I was like well this is problematic and then

0:47:24.140 --> 0:47:27.070
<v Speaker 2>I went into a weird panic in that moment because

0:47:27.130 --> 0:47:30.350
<v Speaker 2>I'm quite processed before the show. I like to really

0:47:30.390 --> 0:47:33.629
<v Speaker 2>ground myself. I like to do my things in order

0:47:33.670 --> 0:47:36.410
<v Speaker 2>to get me locked in to the show. And I

0:47:36.469 --> 0:47:38.910
<v Speaker 2>didn't get to at that Adelaide show, but we were

0:47:39.310 --> 0:47:44.320
<v Speaker 2>lackadaisy at that show, weren't we? In fact, tech finished early,

0:47:44.460 --> 0:47:47.480
<v Speaker 2>like Mel did our hair and makeup early and finished early. Yeah,

0:47:47.500 --> 0:47:48.899
<v Speaker 2>we were very chill. We were so chill.

0:47:48.920 --> 0:47:51.280
<v Speaker 3>And that's why we all got evacuated at the end

0:47:51.340 --> 0:47:54.720
<v Speaker 3>with a dramatic entrance. Do you know, we have learned

0:47:54.780 --> 0:47:58.350
<v Speaker 3>so much about our different brains through doing a live

0:47:58.370 --> 0:48:00.890
<v Speaker 3>show that we would never have uncovered if we were

0:48:00.910 --> 0:48:04.049
<v Speaker 3>just doing the podcast. Like I don't think it's an

0:48:04.270 --> 0:48:08.210
<v Speaker 3>accident that we have uncovered all our neurodivergence and everything

0:48:08.230 --> 0:48:12.500
<v Speaker 3>in the last four years. Like nothing uncovers this stuff

0:48:12.680 --> 0:48:16.300
<v Speaker 3>in a creative partnership like things like that like having

0:48:16.340 --> 0:48:19.279
<v Speaker 3>a process before you go out what you're comfortable doing

0:48:19.340 --> 0:48:21.910
<v Speaker 3>versus what you need to push yourself on like we

0:48:21.969 --> 0:48:25.410
<v Speaker 3>are actually even though we are very very very creatively

0:48:25.489 --> 0:48:29.930
<v Speaker 3>aligned we are very different creatures cerebrally yeah and it's

0:48:30.030 --> 0:48:33.330
<v Speaker 3>um our approach to prepping for a show yeah could

0:48:33.370 --> 0:48:35.319
<v Speaker 3>not have been more different yeah like I.

0:48:35.300 --> 0:48:38.400
<v Speaker 2>Think After four years it was like, oh, yeah, Jem's

0:48:38.460 --> 0:48:42.200
<v Speaker 2>doing her thing with a tin of pineapples and Rebs

0:48:42.239 --> 0:48:44.560
<v Speaker 2>is doing her thing, not looking at the script and

0:48:44.640 --> 0:48:47.900
<v Speaker 2>reviewing it in her brain, like whatever. It just is

0:48:47.940 --> 0:48:50.140
<v Speaker 2>what it is. Totally, but that was a journey over

0:48:50.180 --> 0:48:52.420
<v Speaker 2>the four years to get to that place of, oh,

0:48:52.460 --> 0:48:54.600
<v Speaker 2>that's the way she does it rather than don't you

0:48:54.680 --> 0:48:56.489
<v Speaker 2>think you need to do this because that's what I

0:48:56.530 --> 0:48:58.750
<v Speaker 2>need to do, you know. I feel like that's also

0:48:58.810 --> 0:49:02.330
<v Speaker 2>why Sorry For Existing was such a vulnerable and therefore

0:49:02.530 --> 0:49:05.810
<v Speaker 2>honest and therefore special show because is because we'd done

0:49:05.969 --> 0:49:07.870
<v Speaker 2>one show and we kind of were starting to learn

0:49:07.890 --> 0:49:09.719
<v Speaker 2>that about each other. And then as we started to

0:49:09.780 --> 0:49:12.660
<v Speaker 2>create a much bigger show, like it was a lot

0:49:12.680 --> 0:49:14.920
<v Speaker 2>of like, oh God, we're all so different. And then

0:49:15.120 --> 0:49:18.489
<v Speaker 2>because we are creatives, you always extrapolate that out to

0:49:18.530 --> 0:49:21.120
<v Speaker 2>your audience and try and find meaning in everything. Nothing's

0:49:21.160 --> 0:49:23.220
<v Speaker 2>ever just a joke or just a dance or whatever.

0:49:23.260 --> 0:49:25.259
<v Speaker 2>It's got to have meaning. And I think that's why

0:49:25.300 --> 0:49:28.480
<v Speaker 2>we landed in the Rafa storyline, you know, which is

0:49:28.540 --> 0:49:31.339
<v Speaker 2>obviously not just about Rafa, but suddenly became about all

0:49:31.360 --> 0:49:33.680
<v Speaker 2>of us. Yeah. Yeah. I think it was because we

0:49:33.719 --> 0:49:38.110
<v Speaker 2>were uncovering ourselves in that year. Yeah. Do you want

0:49:38.130 --> 0:49:41.189
<v Speaker 2>to hear something funny? In three years of touring, Revs

0:49:41.250 --> 0:49:44.350
<v Speaker 2>and I never did a proper vocal warm-up before our shows.

0:49:44.710 --> 0:49:47.350
<v Speaker 2>And then of course you have Daron join on this tour,

0:49:47.390 --> 0:49:51.920
<v Speaker 2>who's like a seasoned music theatre performer. And he's like,

0:49:52.020 --> 0:49:55.640
<v Speaker 2>so what's your vocal warm-up? and we were like oh

0:49:55.660 --> 0:49:58.080
<v Speaker 2>shit we don't have one now i'm embarrassed to admit

0:49:58.120 --> 0:50:01.299
<v Speaker 2>this because i'm three years into drama school and i

0:50:01.380 --> 0:50:04.520
<v Speaker 2>definitely have a vocal warm-up for a play yeah but

0:50:04.600 --> 0:50:07.580
<v Speaker 2>not for singing and we do so much singing yeah

0:50:07.800 --> 0:50:10.440
<v Speaker 2>in the show hilarious some would say too much some

0:50:10.480 --> 0:50:13.719
<v Speaker 2>would say too much and next minute we have this

0:50:13.820 --> 0:50:16.770
<v Speaker 2>vocal warm-up track that deron gave us on youtube And

0:50:16.830 --> 0:50:19.770
<v Speaker 2>I was like, this is amazing. Yeah, this just in.

0:50:19.820 --> 0:50:22.780
<v Speaker 2>This just in. When you warm up your voice, it's easier.

0:50:22.840 --> 0:50:25.959
<v Speaker 2>It's actually easier. And I just thought, fuck, we really

0:50:25.980 --> 0:50:27.819
<v Speaker 2>could have done with this over the last three years.

0:50:27.860 --> 0:50:31.239
<v Speaker 2>But I loved. Then that became part of my process

0:50:31.560 --> 0:50:33.960
<v Speaker 2>every show during tour. It was during this 10 minutes

0:50:34.100 --> 0:50:37.120
<v Speaker 2>with Kathleen on YouTube vocal warm-up. I have been saying

0:50:37.200 --> 0:50:40.080
<v Speaker 2>to Daron, I don't understand how you do eight shows

0:50:40.120 --> 0:50:42.620
<v Speaker 2>a week. Max we did was three in a week

0:50:42.820 --> 0:50:47.950
<v Speaker 2>and I was a corpse. Yeah, dead. It's absolutely dead.

0:50:47.969 --> 0:50:50.810
<v Speaker 2>It blows my mind that there are people who not

0:50:50.890 --> 0:50:52.930
<v Speaker 2>only do eight shows a week on one show, but

0:50:52.969 --> 0:50:57.370
<v Speaker 2>whose whole professional career for 10, 20 years is going

0:50:57.410 --> 0:51:00.089
<v Speaker 2>from one eight shows a week into rehearsal, into one

0:51:00.150 --> 0:51:04.950
<v Speaker 2>eight shows a week, into rehearsal. Athletes. Absolute athletes. But

0:51:05.630 --> 0:51:08.739
<v Speaker 2>I do have a theory. It's the same as someone

0:51:08.760 --> 0:51:10.640
<v Speaker 2>who has two kids who looks at someone who has

0:51:10.680 --> 0:51:13.660
<v Speaker 2>four kids and goes, how do you get all those

0:51:13.719 --> 0:51:15.440
<v Speaker 2>children out the door? How do you find time for you?

0:51:15.500 --> 0:51:18.689
<v Speaker 2>How can you service everyone's needs? When you're in that

0:51:18.790 --> 0:51:21.959
<v Speaker 2>season and you do eight shows a week, you just

0:51:22.020 --> 0:51:23.840
<v Speaker 2>get good at it. You don't know any different. You

0:51:23.880 --> 0:51:26.520
<v Speaker 2>don't know any different. You know, I've had podcasters who

0:51:26.580 --> 0:51:29.489
<v Speaker 2>are interview-based podcasts who are like, I don't know how

0:51:29.530 --> 0:51:32.370
<v Speaker 2>you and Revs do host-led episodes where it's just the

0:51:32.390 --> 0:51:34.750
<v Speaker 2>two of you talking for an hour. I don't understand.

0:51:34.770 --> 0:51:38.620
<v Speaker 2>I do that once a month. and I'm cooked. It's

0:51:38.680 --> 0:51:41.340
<v Speaker 2>kind of the same thing. It's a muscle that you flex.

0:51:41.520 --> 0:51:43.919
<v Speaker 2>And the other thing as well is a performer doing

0:51:43.940 --> 0:51:46.500
<v Speaker 2>eight shows a week on a show where they are

0:51:46.580 --> 0:51:49.160
<v Speaker 2>just talent. Yeah. Yeah. It's a different experience. It's just

0:51:49.420 --> 0:51:55.109
<v Speaker 2>so different to our experience of being across every single

0:51:55.280 --> 0:51:58.210
<v Speaker 2>aspect and element of the show bar logistics, which is

0:51:58.250 --> 0:52:00.250
<v Speaker 2>Katie's job from beginning to end. I mean, And we're

0:52:00.290 --> 0:52:02.920
<v Speaker 2>not not in logistics. We're just not in charge of it.

0:52:02.950 --> 0:52:04.609
<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean? We're still across it. We're

0:52:04.630 --> 0:52:07.469
<v Speaker 2>still a part of it. Absolutely across everything. No, you're

0:52:07.550 --> 0:52:10.790
<v Speaker 2>absolutely right. It's a very different experience. Yeah, it is.

0:52:10.969 --> 0:52:14.180
<v Speaker 2>And the dialogue that we have between DL and us,

0:52:14.239 --> 0:52:16.700
<v Speaker 2>there feels like a greater responsibility. And I'm not trying

0:52:16.719 --> 0:52:20.180
<v Speaker 2>to minimise... theater performers in any way, but you come

0:52:20.219 --> 0:52:22.739
<v Speaker 2>in as talent. You don't have an emotional attachment to

0:52:22.760 --> 0:52:25.420
<v Speaker 2>the audience unless there's friends and family in. The DLs

0:52:25.460 --> 0:52:28.360
<v Speaker 2>to us are our entire friends and family every night,

0:52:29.140 --> 0:52:32.140
<v Speaker 2>every audience member. And then we're invested in DLs and

0:52:32.180 --> 0:52:34.779
<v Speaker 2>waiting because we want them to join the cult. A

0:52:34.940 --> 0:52:37.700
<v Speaker 2>hired performer who does eight shows a week, they don't

0:52:37.739 --> 0:52:39.870
<v Speaker 2>even care about if the seats are full or not,

0:52:39.890 --> 0:52:42.830
<v Speaker 2>or if tickets are selling or Apparently some do. Right.

0:52:42.870 --> 0:52:44.890
<v Speaker 2>I've had this chat with Daron and he's like, what's

0:52:44.930 --> 0:52:47.149
<v Speaker 2>the seat joke? And I'm like, oh, no, just Jem.

0:52:47.210 --> 0:52:49.750
<v Speaker 2>It kills Jem when there's empty seats. And he's like, oh, yeah,

0:52:49.770 --> 0:52:52.700
<v Speaker 2>there's always some people who like hate going on to

0:52:52.719 --> 0:52:55.259
<v Speaker 2>like a half full house or whatever. And I'm like, yeah, right, okay.

0:52:55.280 --> 0:52:56.780
<v Speaker 2>And then there's some who really don't care.

0:52:56.800 --> 0:52:57.180
<v Speaker 1>Don't care.

0:52:57.200 --> 0:52:59.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. It's a personality thing. But it is interesting and

0:52:59.989 --> 0:53:02.609
<v Speaker 2>I have mad respect. Yeah. For those people who can

0:53:02.650 --> 0:53:05.509
<v Speaker 2>churn out. I just think absolute athletes. I guess it's

0:53:05.550 --> 0:53:07.910
<v Speaker 2>like people who train for the city to surf versus

0:53:07.969 --> 0:53:09.790
<v Speaker 2>people who do marathons all the time. Do you know

0:53:09.810 --> 0:53:13.270
<v Speaker 2>what I mean? Like we're the city to surf. That's us.

0:53:13.510 --> 0:53:15.109
<v Speaker 2>And we're not even, Rebs. No, we're not even. We're

0:53:15.150 --> 0:53:15.690
<v Speaker 2>not even.

0:53:15.750 --> 0:53:19.390
<v Speaker 1>No, you guys, you don't understand that your show has

0:53:19.510 --> 0:53:22.590
<v Speaker 1>eight shows in it. All the different characters, all the

0:53:22.630 --> 0:53:23.770
<v Speaker 1>different costume changes.

0:53:24.130 --> 0:53:24.830
<v Speaker 2>So true.

0:53:25.690 --> 0:53:27.319
<v Speaker 1>All the different accents.

0:53:27.340 --> 0:53:29.960
<v Speaker 2>It is a marathon. Just to draw back to that analogy. No,

0:53:29.960 --> 0:53:33.480
<v Speaker 2>it's a decathlon. It's a decathlon. It's a decathlon. It

0:53:33.520 --> 0:53:35.940
<v Speaker 2>does feel like a decathlon when we're in it. That's

0:53:35.960 --> 0:53:36.460
<v Speaker 2>so funny.

0:53:36.680 --> 0:53:39.450
<v Speaker 1>All right. Favourite show you've done so far?

0:53:39.630 --> 0:53:43.190
<v Speaker 2>Favourite show to do was this year. Know Thyself for me.

0:53:43.210 --> 0:53:44.900
<v Speaker 2>Was it for you? It was for me too. I

0:53:44.920 --> 0:53:47.780
<v Speaker 2>had the most fun. fun yeah performing this year's show

0:53:47.820 --> 0:53:50.299
<v Speaker 2>yeah i think our stage pieces were the strongest there

0:53:50.340 --> 0:53:53.120
<v Speaker 2>was literally no bit i didn't love same yeah i

0:53:53.160 --> 0:53:56.590
<v Speaker 2>looked forward to every single bit yeah like looking at

0:53:56.630 --> 0:53:58.150
<v Speaker 2>the next costume when i came off and being like

0:53:58.170 --> 0:54:00.430
<v Speaker 2>what's next oh the rap battle great you know i

0:54:00.430 --> 0:54:02.250
<v Speaker 2>was never like oh gotta get through this oh my

0:54:02.270 --> 0:54:04.689
<v Speaker 2>god we've never chatted about this revs i'm so glad

0:54:04.730 --> 0:54:07.090
<v Speaker 2>that was your experience too because i had the exact

0:54:07.150 --> 0:54:10.440
<v Speaker 2>same yeah the whole know thyself show i loved every

0:54:10.700 --> 0:54:13.319
<v Speaker 2>single stage moment but had a ball show i'm again

0:54:13.480 --> 0:54:16.380
<v Speaker 2>most proud of sorry for existing same yeah We're very aligned.

0:54:16.520 --> 0:54:20.160
<v Speaker 1>For me, I think Sorry for Existing because it aligned

0:54:20.180 --> 0:54:22.260
<v Speaker 1>with where I was in my life at the time

0:54:22.520 --> 0:54:26.189
<v Speaker 1>it came out. Also the AV content for Who Is She?

0:54:26.210 --> 0:54:26.650
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:54:26.670 --> 0:54:28.190
<v Speaker 1>It's my favourite.

0:54:28.530 --> 0:54:30.509
<v Speaker 2>Any particular one? Tonight. Oh, yeah.

0:54:30.570 --> 0:54:33.170
<v Speaker 1>I love Tonight with Furnace and the Fundamentals. I also

0:54:33.290 --> 0:54:34.890
<v Speaker 1>really liked Mum's Night Out.

0:54:35.030 --> 0:54:37.950
<v Speaker 2>Oh, same. People love that one. I love that one too.

0:54:37.969 --> 0:54:38.390
<v Speaker 2>Love that one.

0:54:38.430 --> 0:54:40.430
<v Speaker 1>And I just loved Furnace. filming it too.

0:54:40.110 --> 0:54:43.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah I have a fondness for who is she because

0:54:43.680 --> 0:54:46.960
<v Speaker 2>of the opera house dream oh yes being fulfilled like

0:54:47.040 --> 0:54:49.460
<v Speaker 2>that makes me want to cry just thinking about it

0:54:49.660 --> 0:54:52.299
<v Speaker 2>and I zoom out and I go wow I can't

0:54:52.340 --> 0:54:55.800
<v Speaker 2>believe in five years of podcasting we vocalized that dream

0:54:55.840 --> 0:54:59.489
<v Speaker 2>and then it got manifested yeah that was incredibly special

0:54:59.620 --> 0:55:01.950
<v Speaker 2>and the turnout for the opera house just all of

0:55:02.050 --> 0:55:04.529
<v Speaker 2>it there was a magic around that but then can

0:55:04.550 --> 0:55:07.770
<v Speaker 2>we not evolve also holds a most special piece of

0:55:07.830 --> 0:55:11.190
<v Speaker 2>my heart because DLs didn't know what they were coming

0:55:11.370 --> 0:55:13.799
<v Speaker 2>and it felt like we were holding a secret of

0:55:13.910 --> 0:55:19.399
<v Speaker 2>our dorky drama selves and being like, hey, we've been,

0:55:19.660 --> 0:55:22.239
<v Speaker 2>we studied for three years at different drama schools and

0:55:22.280 --> 0:55:25.410
<v Speaker 2>we're about to unleash our absolute full theater nerd onto

0:55:25.450 --> 0:55:27.450
<v Speaker 2>you guys and you have no idea. Hmm. what this

0:55:27.469 --> 0:55:30.370
<v Speaker 2>show is. And a lot of DLs in Vidal said

0:55:30.510 --> 0:55:32.850
<v Speaker 2>Can We Not Evolve is still one of their most

0:55:32.989 --> 0:55:35.609
<v Speaker 2>favourite and treasured shows because it blew their mind.

0:55:35.890 --> 0:55:39.360
<v Speaker 1>We also didn't anticipate the reaction to Can We Not Evolve. No.

0:55:39.440 --> 0:55:41.340
<v Speaker 1>We could have had a, oh, you guys are trying

0:55:41.360 --> 0:55:43.860
<v Speaker 1>too hard kind of vibe. I like the.

0:55:43.660 --> 0:55:46.560
<v Speaker 2>Podcast, but I don't know about this living room show. No.

0:55:47.250 --> 0:55:49.630
<v Speaker 1>Everyone embraced it. Yeah.

0:55:49.830 --> 0:55:52.580
<v Speaker 2>You guys enabled us to keep going and boy, did

0:55:52.620 --> 0:55:53.900
<v Speaker 2>we keep going. All right.

0:55:54.060 --> 0:55:57.259
<v Speaker 1>Moving away from the show, what's the hardest part of

0:55:57.360 --> 0:55:58.580
<v Speaker 1>having a podcast?

0:55:58.700 --> 0:56:01.719
<v Speaker 2>For me, it is the fact that people in my

0:56:01.780 --> 0:56:04.230
<v Speaker 2>real life feel caught up with me. And you have

0:56:04.270 --> 0:56:06.169
<v Speaker 2>no idea. And I am not caught up with them.

0:56:06.270 --> 0:56:08.370
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what's happening in their life. And I'll

0:56:08.450 --> 0:56:12.570
<v Speaker 2>often get this text. Hey, So happy to hear about blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

0:56:12.710 --> 0:56:16.080
<v Speaker 2>Love that Teddy's da, da, da. Oh my gosh. Something, something.

0:56:16.100 --> 0:56:19.359
<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, how are you? And you lose that

0:56:19.440 --> 0:56:23.620
<v Speaker 2>like back and forth relationship. So yeah, I just always

0:56:23.660 --> 0:56:25.469
<v Speaker 2>remind people, I don't know what's going on in your

0:56:25.510 --> 0:56:26.770
<v Speaker 2>life and I want to see you and I want

0:56:26.810 --> 0:56:29.130
<v Speaker 2>to hear your stories. Like, let's catch up. I have

0:56:29.150 --> 0:56:32.150
<v Speaker 2>to second revs. That was my answer as well. it

0:56:32.230 --> 0:56:36.040
<v Speaker 2>is that disconnect where everyone who listens, that's not all

0:56:36.080 --> 0:56:40.380
<v Speaker 2>of our friends, definitely not everyone, but yeah, that absolute

0:56:40.420 --> 0:56:43.120
<v Speaker 2>disconnect in dialogue where they are fully caught up and

0:56:43.200 --> 0:56:46.759
<v Speaker 2>I'm just getting started on where they're at in their lives. Well,

0:56:46.820 --> 0:56:48.930
<v Speaker 2>and also the other version of that is someone who

0:56:48.969 --> 0:56:51.430
<v Speaker 2>doesn't listen and then they're like, Hey, sorry, I'm not

0:56:51.489 --> 0:56:53.130
<v Speaker 2>caught up on you. And I'm like, Oh my God,

0:56:53.210 --> 0:56:57.109
<v Speaker 2>don't apologize. It's not your job. to like listen to

0:56:57.150 --> 0:57:00.830
<v Speaker 2>my podcast. We're friends. Like it goes both ways. I

0:57:00.850 --> 0:57:02.230
<v Speaker 2>want to hear about your life and I want to

0:57:02.270 --> 0:57:04.310
<v Speaker 2>tell you about mine, which, you know, don't put it

0:57:04.350 --> 0:57:06.400
<v Speaker 2>all in the podcast. So honestly, if you were to

0:57:06.469 --> 0:57:08.859
<v Speaker 2>ask me if there's anything else that is like the

0:57:08.920 --> 0:57:11.920
<v Speaker 2>hardest thing about having a podcast, nothing else springs to mind.

0:57:12.180 --> 0:57:15.719
<v Speaker 2>What about you, Ray? I do find sometimes when life

0:57:15.800 --> 0:57:19.440
<v Speaker 2>is actual life is harder showing up and figuring out

0:57:19.480 --> 0:57:23.070
<v Speaker 2>how to talk at length and deeply about a topic

0:57:23.190 --> 0:57:25.310
<v Speaker 2>when you've got some real stuff going on in your

0:57:25.350 --> 0:57:28.090
<v Speaker 2>life can be hard, like not unmanageable, but that's, if

0:57:28.110 --> 0:57:30.450
<v Speaker 2>you had to ask me, sometimes those days are hard,

0:57:30.470 --> 0:57:34.620
<v Speaker 2>but we're mining our own lives for content. It's very real,

0:57:34.760 --> 0:57:36.360
<v Speaker 2>but we also wouldn't have any other way. And we

0:57:36.420 --> 0:57:40.940
<v Speaker 2>are natural oversharers. Yeah. I don't find that hard, the

0:57:41.200 --> 0:57:43.550
<v Speaker 2>sharing of my life. Maybe I can say that now

0:57:43.620 --> 0:57:47.930
<v Speaker 2>five years deep into podcasting because we gain so much

0:57:48.230 --> 0:57:51.170
<v Speaker 2>from our DLs and the conversations it sparks. I'm just like,

0:57:51.210 --> 0:57:53.210
<v Speaker 2>it's worth it. Yeah. It's so worth it. And it's

0:57:53.230 --> 0:57:55.870
<v Speaker 2>definitely made us more kind of like honest, open people.

0:57:57.110 --> 0:58:00.100
<v Speaker 1>What about, this is my personal reflection on it, what

0:58:00.160 --> 0:58:02.720
<v Speaker 1>about a big part of the time you spend together

0:58:02.860 --> 0:58:05.960
<v Speaker 1>is now like work? You know what I mean? Like

0:58:05.980 --> 0:58:07.620
<v Speaker 1>it's less about just hanging out and chilling.

0:58:07.660 --> 0:58:12.980
<v Speaker 2>We have to work hard on actually having leisure time together. Yeah.

0:58:13.080 --> 0:58:14.800
<v Speaker 2>I would say we don't get enough of that. No,

0:58:14.800 --> 0:58:17.310
<v Speaker 2>we don't. And it's hard to carve out that time.

0:58:17.330 --> 0:58:19.910
<v Speaker 2>I think... I've been reflecting on this a bit and

0:58:19.970 --> 0:58:23.270
<v Speaker 2>I feel like DLs who are in the school mum

0:58:23.410 --> 0:58:26.310
<v Speaker 2>era will get this. It feels very different in the

0:58:26.350 --> 0:58:30.390
<v Speaker 2>preschool era. I don't know why. Because there's more to do.

0:58:30.470 --> 0:58:33.590
<v Speaker 2>There is so much to do. And I feel like

0:58:33.790 --> 0:58:37.510
<v Speaker 2>I'm at this stage where I've put my personal wishes

0:58:37.710 --> 0:58:40.530
<v Speaker 2>on hold to a degree, not fully. Mm-hmm. For the

0:58:40.610 --> 0:58:43.670
<v Speaker 2>sake of my kids and their community. And their schedule.

0:58:43.750 --> 0:58:47.640
<v Speaker 2>And their life schedule and their sports schedule, their extracurricular schedule.

0:58:47.720 --> 0:58:51.280
<v Speaker 2>You know, Rafa's dance comps take over an entire weekend.

0:58:51.860 --> 0:58:54.540
<v Speaker 2>And that's a big sacrifice for me. That's time away

0:58:54.580 --> 0:58:58.040
<v Speaker 2>from my friends. That's time away from Iggy and, you know, whoever.

0:58:58.580 --> 0:59:02.050
<v Speaker 2>And I'm committed to it. It feels right in this

0:59:02.090 --> 0:59:04.570
<v Speaker 2>season of life. But when I catch up with other people,

0:59:04.850 --> 0:59:06.310
<v Speaker 2>everyone is in the same boat.

0:59:06.370 --> 0:59:06.630
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:59:06.690 --> 0:59:09.990
<v Speaker 2>Like literally no one's got interesting stories. Like I catch up.

0:59:10.080 --> 0:59:11.790
<v Speaker 2>with friends. It's like, hey, what's going on with you?

0:59:12.100 --> 0:59:15.270
<v Speaker 2>Same old grind of work, getting the kids to school.

0:59:15.650 --> 0:59:17.830
<v Speaker 2>How are you going with extra credit? So full on, hey,

0:59:17.910 --> 0:59:22.730
<v Speaker 2>weekends are this. kids' birthday parties, like shepherding from A

0:59:22.770 --> 0:59:25.730
<v Speaker 2>to B to C. Like, I feel like that is

0:59:26.030 --> 0:59:29.320
<v Speaker 2>everyone in my community's life at the moment. And I

0:59:29.420 --> 0:59:33.100
<v Speaker 2>find with us, I'm so grateful that we get to

0:59:33.160 --> 0:59:35.640
<v Speaker 2>see each other multiple times a week. Because when I

0:59:35.680 --> 0:59:37.780
<v Speaker 2>think about like the good mum. Yeah, I know. I

0:59:37.840 --> 0:59:41.520
<v Speaker 2>never see her. I haven't seen her because of exactly

0:59:41.540 --> 0:59:43.280
<v Speaker 2>what I said. It's like we've got different nap schedules.

0:59:43.620 --> 0:59:46.010
<v Speaker 2>with her at the moment yeah yeah I'm like hey

0:59:46.070 --> 0:59:48.710
<v Speaker 2>I know this is a long shot again are you

0:59:48.750 --> 0:59:51.240
<v Speaker 2>free you know it's like no okay cool see you

0:59:51.280 --> 0:59:53.480
<v Speaker 2>at Christmas you know what I mean like I don't

0:59:53.680 --> 0:59:57.800
<v Speaker 2>that's not a begrudging of her that is literally everyone

0:59:57.840 --> 0:59:59.910
<v Speaker 2>and then vice versa people can be like Gemma you

0:59:59.930 --> 1:00:02.570
<v Speaker 2>free or opportunities get thrown out for a girls catch

1:00:02.630 --> 1:00:05.150
<v Speaker 2>up and I'm like I'm not guys sorry I'm doing

1:00:05.310 --> 1:00:07.770
<v Speaker 2>this thing for work or when I'm on tour yeah

1:00:08.610 --> 1:00:11.250
<v Speaker 2>we literally duck out for six weeks straight and like

1:00:11.330 --> 1:00:14.710
<v Speaker 2>no one's seen us yeah so while I do wish

1:00:14.730 --> 1:00:17.450
<v Speaker 2>we could carve out more leisure time as you said

1:00:17.470 --> 1:00:20.550
<v Speaker 2>we are gonna have some leisure time coming up together

1:00:20.570 --> 1:00:23.820
<v Speaker 2>I loved that for my birthday Rev's got me an

1:00:23.900 --> 1:00:27.439
<v Speaker 2>experience because that was something out of work for us

1:00:27.460 --> 1:00:30.540
<v Speaker 2>together what are you laughing at Katie.

1:00:29.980 --> 1:00:32.080
<v Speaker 1>To That buffet life keeps coming back.

1:00:32.500 --> 1:00:34.980
<v Speaker 2>That buffet epicurean life. Best day of her life. It

1:00:35.020 --> 1:00:37.140
<v Speaker 2>was a good time. Gifts are my love language.

1:00:37.160 --> 1:00:39.120
<v Speaker 1>Oh, my God, how good was the Sofitel Melbourne buffet?

1:00:39.220 --> 1:00:42.780
<v Speaker 2>I can't. It was amazing. And we were treated to

1:00:42.820 --> 1:00:46.050
<v Speaker 2>a few Sofitel buffets on this tour. So good. I've

1:00:46.070 --> 1:00:48.550
<v Speaker 2>got to say the fact that they had the Asian

1:00:48.610 --> 1:00:51.050
<v Speaker 2>breakfast stand. I was about to say. It was a

1:00:51.070 --> 1:00:53.710
<v Speaker 2>real level up. Revs and I starting our day at

1:00:53.750 --> 1:00:57.400
<v Speaker 2>the Melbourne Sofitel having a barbecue pork bun for breakfast

1:00:57.500 --> 1:01:01.020
<v Speaker 2>was top tier. But then I also had croissants and

1:01:01.060 --> 1:01:02.080
<v Speaker 2>then I had my eggs.

1:01:02.300 --> 1:01:05.490
<v Speaker 1>And the vegetable gyoza. So good.

1:01:05.590 --> 1:01:08.070
<v Speaker 2>Also, did anyone else feel this, that that Sofitel was

1:01:08.170 --> 1:01:11.350
<v Speaker 2>the most luxe? In terms of the vibe of the,

1:01:11.570 --> 1:01:14.700
<v Speaker 2>everything felt grand. Yeah. Inside that song. Oh yeah.

1:01:14.760 --> 1:01:19.020
<v Speaker 1>Everyone, all the show fans kept saying, fancy, fancy, fancy.

1:01:19.100 --> 1:01:22.040
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, that breakfast was elite. It really was.

1:01:22.060 --> 1:01:22.320
<v Speaker 1>Elite.

1:01:22.420 --> 1:01:25.260
<v Speaker 2>They had the best robes. Yeah. DL, if you're into congee,

1:01:25.320 --> 1:01:27.500
<v Speaker 2>the congee was 10 out of 10. If you know

1:01:27.540 --> 1:01:29.860
<v Speaker 2>what that is. Yeah, no, yeah, no. And this is

1:01:29.900 --> 1:01:30.600
<v Speaker 2>really sausagey.

1:01:30.680 --> 1:01:32.720
<v Speaker 1>It really helped with meal breaks too, because we would

1:01:32.760 --> 1:01:34.700
<v Speaker 1>fill up so much on the buffet and Then at

1:01:34.740 --> 1:01:38.410
<v Speaker 1>around 2, 3 o'clock, we'd have lunch slash dinner. And

1:01:38.470 --> 1:01:43.050
<v Speaker 1>then at around 1 a.m., 11 p.m., midnight, we would

1:01:43.090 --> 1:01:43.970
<v Speaker 1>have cheeseburgers.

1:01:44.030 --> 1:01:47.460
<v Speaker 2>And I think DLs understand the journey of mapping out

1:01:47.520 --> 1:01:50.440
<v Speaker 2>mine and Revs' meals for the show was a whole

1:01:50.500 --> 1:01:53.620
<v Speaker 2>fucking thing. because we had soundcheck and this year we

1:01:53.640 --> 1:01:55.660
<v Speaker 2>had backstage passes coming to join it. I mean, it

1:01:55.680 --> 1:01:57.910
<v Speaker 2>would just be rude to do soundcheck like eating a

1:01:58.190 --> 1:02:00.670
<v Speaker 2>fucking chicken wrap. I think it would be on brand. Probably,

1:02:00.710 --> 1:02:02.750
<v Speaker 2>but I didn't want to do that. But also the

1:02:02.770 --> 1:02:05.250
<v Speaker 2>later you eat, the harder it is to get food

1:02:05.390 --> 1:02:07.830
<v Speaker 2>in you because you're nervous and then you don't want

1:02:07.850 --> 1:02:10.550
<v Speaker 2>to feel sluggish for the show. It was a whole

1:02:10.610 --> 1:02:11.450
<v Speaker 2>fucking thing. It's a whole thing.

1:02:11.550 --> 1:02:14.010
<v Speaker 1>This is an interesting question. When does Gem think she'll

1:02:14.030 --> 1:02:15.840
<v Speaker 1>do a year in Thailand with the kids?

1:02:15.860 --> 1:02:19.140
<v Speaker 2>Oh, yeah. Ah. Maybe the year Revs has a baby.

1:02:21.540 --> 1:02:23.950
<v Speaker 2>Then I'll duck out. I don't know. I mean, I've

1:02:24.230 --> 1:02:27.710
<v Speaker 2>toyed with the idea of like when Rafa's in year

1:02:27.770 --> 1:02:30.880
<v Speaker 2>five and Iggy's in year three. which is in three

1:02:30.900 --> 1:02:34.760
<v Speaker 2>years time from now, something about that feels like that

1:02:34.820 --> 1:02:38.040
<v Speaker 2>could work. But again, I'm going off my own experience

1:02:38.080 --> 1:02:41.780
<v Speaker 2>because I moved to Australia in year six. So in

1:02:41.820 --> 1:02:44.480
<v Speaker 2>my head, I'm like, well, you know, Rafa could duck

1:02:44.540 --> 1:02:46.320
<v Speaker 2>out of year five and then re-enter in year six

1:02:46.360 --> 1:02:48.530
<v Speaker 2>and she'll be fine because I was fine. I'm projecting

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<v Speaker 2>my own stuff onto her. It's so dependent on your

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<v Speaker 2>and your husband's work. 100p. I mean, I think my

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<v Speaker 2>husband's work is the trickier dimension to this piece because

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<v Speaker 2>he's at the mercy of a boss. And what does

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<v Speaker 2>that say for his career? And, you know, someone was like,

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<v Speaker 2>he could take a hiatus if he's really valued in

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<v Speaker 2>his workplace. But I don't know. That's his journey. I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like we, the pod and me could be more

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<v Speaker 2>adaptable for my part in this. Yeah, definitely. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. All I know is it needs to

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<v Speaker 2>be before high school. That's the only thing, that's the

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<v Speaker 2>one hill that I will die on is that it

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<v Speaker 2>has to be. And maybe that means sacrificing Rafa's year six,

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<v Speaker 2>because there's also an, there's an argument for everything, right?

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<v Speaker 2>But the year six argument is like, It's the last

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<v Speaker 2>year of primary school. There's lots of opportunities that the

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<v Speaker 2>kids get in year six and privileges for being the

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<v Speaker 2>oldest in the, you know, so I'm like, okay, well,

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<v Speaker 2>that feels important, which is kind of wild when I

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<v Speaker 2>think about moving from Thailand to Australia and slotting into

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<v Speaker 2>year six, you know, in that year where there's like

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<v Speaker 2>leadership role opportunities and I've carved out nothing because I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a complete fresh kid at the school and it didn't

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<v Speaker 2>kill me. Would it be a whole year? Maybe it

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<v Speaker 2>would be six months. I don't know. I'm very inspired

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<v Speaker 2>by people doing all sorts of things. You know, Sophie

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<v Speaker 2>Pierce went caravanning for 14 months. My sister-in-law is doing

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<v Speaker 2>nine months. So her kids will do one term of

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<v Speaker 2>school this year. And I just think there's no one

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<v Speaker 2>way to do life and I'm just open to whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>Like maybe it's not a year, maybe it's less realistically

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<v Speaker 2>in where our life is at. And also Rev's like

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned previously, we've got more responsibilities and that's, a very

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<v Speaker 2>real thing to me in hubs as well. Like we've

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<v Speaker 2>got more mortgages, we've got mortgages, rate rise every two minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's a very fucking real thing. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we can't just wash our hands of the responsibilities of

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<v Speaker 2>that as much as I would like to take a

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<v Speaker 2>hiatus from an interest rate rise. Wish we could. Wish

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<v Speaker 2>we could, but we simply cannot. So yeah, fair question,

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<v Speaker 2>but I don't have the answer.

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<v Speaker 1>And you touched on this a second ago, Gem. Future

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<v Speaker 1>Revs and Daron, are you thinking kids? Oh my God,

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<v Speaker 1>what's the plan?

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<v Speaker 2>DLs, we've talked about this in quite rich detail actually,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's over in a more time episode. Yeah, go listen.

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<v Speaker 2>Definitely go listen. It's part two of the Daron episode

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<v Speaker 2>and we really deep dived into this chat. And I personally,

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<v Speaker 2>I found it really interesting. So go have a listen.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll give you this tantalizing carrot. He would love to

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<v Speaker 2>be a father. And we'll put the link in the

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<v Speaker 2>show notes. All right.

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<v Speaker 1>And rounding out this episode, who are the ladies you

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<v Speaker 1>interviewed in the Know Thyself show?

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<v Speaker 2>Also, just quickly, DLs, we've loved your messages about how

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<v Speaker 2>that particular piece in the show has stayed with you

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<v Speaker 2>beyond the show and what it's meant to you. That

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<v Speaker 2>piece means a lot to everyone in show fam. We've

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<v Speaker 2>all cried tears. You know, Katie got teary on the

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<v Speaker 2>day of filming it.

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<v Speaker 1>I was a mess, guys.

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<v Speaker 2>She was a mess because it's incredibly moving. But, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>those wonderful elder witches are a mixed bag from different

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<v Speaker 2>areas of our lives. Mm-hmm. We'll break down our relationship

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<v Speaker 2>with each of them in our Backstage Pass episode that

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to do, but we are very privileged that

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<v Speaker 2>all five of those women are in our lives essentially

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<v Speaker 2>and just like we have learnt what a privilege it

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<v Speaker 2>is to have the friendship that we have, we are

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<v Speaker 2>really just so privileged to know some incredible elders in

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<v Speaker 2>our lives and we wanted to platform them because they

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<v Speaker 2>put us in check and perspective all the time and

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<v Speaker 2>it felt like the perfect way to... to give us

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<v Speaker 2>all permission to literally not sweat the small stuff. Hungy pee. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>It just pulls everything into focus and perspective is everything

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<v Speaker 2>and they have it in spades, those wise witches. They

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<v Speaker 2>make me feel so good about being a woman and

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<v Speaker 2>being alive.

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<v Speaker 1>Same.

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<v Speaker 2>We have some young DLs who came to the show

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<v Speaker 2>who are in their late 20s and they were like, fuck,

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<v Speaker 2>you guys make me look forward to 40. And I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>job done. That's beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, and on that note, let's head on over

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<v Speaker 1>to the More Time feed on Thursday and break down

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<v Speaker 1>the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Instead of doing our big Backstage Pass series this year,

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<v Speaker 2>we've decided to just do one mega show bag of

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<v Speaker 2>all the tidbits that behind the scenes, the tea, the sausage,

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<v Speaker 2>the real sausage. And if you're into that kind of thing,

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<v Speaker 2>the nerd out on how every piece in the show

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<v Speaker 2>came to be, came to be. Yeah. There's so many stories.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>We love you guys. Thank you for being with us

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<v Speaker 2>for the last four years for the shows and. continuing

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<v Speaker 2>to be with us on the pod like i hope

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't sound boring we never get over it it

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<v Speaker 2>means the world to us we love you so much

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<v Speaker 2>and we love this community and just a reminder that

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<v Speaker 2>the pod is going nowhere we will be back in

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<v Speaker 2>your ears bright and early on friday with the bestie

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<v Speaker 2>hotline bye