WEBVTT - The Influencers We're No Longer Friends With 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:02.519 High Scrollers is produced on gadigul Land. 0:00:02.720 --> 0:00:05.080 We pay our respects to the traditional custodians of this 0:00:05.120 --> 0:00:07.160 country and Elder's past and present. 0:00:06.960 --> 0:00:14.720 Always was, always will be Aboriginal Land. Welcome back to 0:00:15.720 --> 0:00:19.680 close screen. We never do intros anymore, we just get 0:00:19.680 --> 0:00:20.360 straight into it. 0:00:20.480 --> 0:00:20.760 Yeah. 0:00:20.800 --> 0:00:24.799 Anyway, we're being really really lazy today. We're answering some 0:00:24.880 --> 0:00:25.720 of your questions. 0:00:25.800 --> 0:00:29.720 Yeah, to be fair, we just sat here for ten 0:00:29.760 --> 0:00:31.840 minutes and we were like, what the fuck? We have 0:00:32.000 --> 0:00:32.680 nothing to. 0:00:32.640 --> 0:00:35.640 Talk about, and usually we have heaps, but we're batch 0:00:35.680 --> 0:00:36.599 recalled nothing. 0:00:36.360 --> 0:00:38.360 Good enough to stretch out for a close friends. 0:00:38.479 --> 0:00:42.600 Yeah, so we've jumped in the good old trusty broadcast channel. Yeah, 0:00:42.640 --> 0:00:46.159 and we're going to go through and answer some of 0:00:46.200 --> 0:00:49.400 your questions. And what I'm realizing this must be new Matt. 0:00:49.479 --> 0:00:52.560 In this question box, they're all in order of most 0:00:52.840 --> 0:00:58.200 like to lowest life. Yeah, so like the top one, 0:00:58.240 --> 0:01:01.920 I think we've answered this before while ago. What's the 0:01:01.920 --> 0:01:04.800 biggest fight you to have ever had? I feel like 0:01:04.800 --> 0:01:06.600 we've before We've never had a fight. 0:01:06.720 --> 0:01:09.560 Yeah, so there you go. 0:01:09.840 --> 0:01:12.280 Yeah, Like I wish we had a good story, Like 0:01:12.360 --> 0:01:13.960 I wish we had a story of us, you know, 0:01:14.319 --> 0:01:16.640 having a big fight over something, and you know, we 0:01:16.640 --> 0:01:19.240 could laugh about it now, but maybe that means there's 0:01:19.240 --> 0:01:22.320 a big fight coming, so stay tuned for that. Everyone. 0:01:22.680 --> 0:01:26.440 Look at the next question, is that too inappropriate. 0:01:25.680 --> 0:01:28.039 To would it be a power top bottom or verse? 0:01:28.040 --> 0:01:29.320 If she was a faggot? 0:01:31.240 --> 0:01:34.319 Can you say that? Yeah? What's a verse? 0:01:34.800 --> 0:01:38.320 Verse means both? Oh don't you read the top bottom 0:01:38.480 --> 0:01:42.480 or both? And I'm going to say verse for you, okay, 0:01:42.680 --> 0:01:45.600 because you don't give top energy, but you don't give 0:01:45.600 --> 0:01:48.320 bottom energy. But it feels like you could be both. 0:01:48.360 --> 0:01:52.360 And you are quite versatile in life anyways, So nice, 0:01:52.560 --> 0:01:54.720 that's good. The next one says Matt, what's one thing 0:01:54.720 --> 0:01:56.960 you hate about Fate? And brit what's one thing you 0:01:57.000 --> 0:01:58.160 hate about Matt's content? 0:01:59.720 --> 0:02:01.400 But I feel like your answer is going to be 0:02:01.440 --> 0:02:02.880 the fact that I don't have a men's range? 0:02:02.920 --> 0:02:06.400 Strange, what's one thing you hate about my content? 0:02:09.360 --> 0:02:11.480 Me trying to think of something nice to say because 0:02:11.480 --> 0:02:12.760 what you just said was nice? 0:02:14.440 --> 0:02:17.360 Like, what is it? What could there be about Fate 0:02:17.360 --> 0:02:18.679 that I hate? You know what I mean? 0:02:18.800 --> 0:02:20.960 Like, it's just that I don't have clothes that you 0:02:21.000 --> 0:02:23.160 really wear or you've got a few things, but it's 0:02:23.200 --> 0:02:25.400 just like that you're waiting for the men's range. Something 0:02:25.440 --> 0:02:28.080 that I hate about your content that you don't have 0:02:28.200 --> 0:02:32.960 me in it enough, you don't tag me enough. Okay, 0:02:33.600 --> 0:02:36.040 let's answer this next one, because it's the next liked 0:02:36.280 --> 0:02:42.120 most like one. Okay, let's do it. Well, Yeah, okay, 0:02:42.200 --> 0:02:44.440 I'd love to know any tea about what happened with 0:02:44.560 --> 0:02:48.000 Britt and Shell, Barbie and Matt and Michael Pinch ha 0:02:48.080 --> 0:02:51.760 ha ha. Okay, So I'll start with mine because it 0:02:51.800 --> 0:02:54.800 goes way way way back. Uh and this is only 0:02:54.800 --> 0:02:58.160 going to be relevant for those of you that followed 0:02:58.200 --> 0:03:03.200 me back then because I was nineteen. This is thirteen 0:03:03.320 --> 0:03:06.840 years ago. So thirteen years ago or however long it was. 0:03:07.000 --> 0:03:08.920 I made friends with this girl who lived in Brisbane. 0:03:09.000 --> 0:03:09.959 Her name was Shelle. 0:03:10.160 --> 0:03:10.600 Shout out. 0:03:10.639 --> 0:03:12.800 If you're listening, I very highly doubt that she is. 0:03:13.919 --> 0:03:16.240 I made friends with her. I met her online, that's right. 0:03:16.320 --> 0:03:19.440 I just started my YouTube channel. I was working full time. 0:03:19.760 --> 0:03:22.400 She was working full time as a beautician. She started 0:03:22.400 --> 0:03:24.400 her YouTube channel as well, and we just connected in 0:03:24.440 --> 0:03:27.919 like the beauty community. Whatever. Anyway, I went up to 0:03:27.960 --> 0:03:30.040 Queensland to visit her a couple of times and we 0:03:30.080 --> 0:03:32.600 just hit it off. We were making collab videos together. 0:03:33.200 --> 0:03:35.160 Were you following me back then? Matt? Like, do you 0:03:35.160 --> 0:03:36.120 remember that year? Oh? 0:03:36.160 --> 0:03:38.080 No, I wasn't around for the Shell Barbie or I 0:03:38.080 --> 0:03:41.800 don't think what year would this have been. I don't know. 0:03:41.880 --> 0:03:45.760 I'm bad at maths. I'm thirty two and I was 0:03:46.560 --> 0:03:49.480 eighteen nineteen at the time. Twenty eleven. 0:03:49.600 --> 0:03:52.280 I came into your life just off the back of 0:03:52.320 --> 0:03:53.040 Shell Barbie. 0:03:53.120 --> 0:03:55.520 Okay, So I made really good friends with. 0:03:55.480 --> 0:03:58.040 This girl because you were living up there, weren't you 0:03:58.120 --> 0:03:59.840 with her? Yes? So then you'd move back to new 0:04:00.160 --> 0:04:02.160 and that's when you were in the makeup that's right, Okay. 0:04:03.000 --> 0:04:06.320 So anyway, we were both getting started as beauty gurus 0:04:06.360 --> 0:04:09.640 and both working full time, and I was like waitressing 0:04:09.680 --> 0:04:12.600 and shit. And then because I was nineteen and so 0:04:12.640 --> 0:04:15.560 spontaneous and had not a care in the world, I thought, 0:04:15.560 --> 0:04:18.840 fuck it, I'm moving to Brisbane. So I packed my 0:04:18.920 --> 0:04:21.120 cardle roof and I moved to Brisbane. First of all, 0:04:21.160 --> 0:04:23.359 why the fuck did I do that? But it was fun, 0:04:23.440 --> 0:04:24.880 like I didn't care. I had nothing to lose. 0:04:24.920 --> 0:04:27.560 You've also done that in Melbourne and what Perth as well? 0:04:27.600 --> 0:04:27.840 Didn't you? 0:04:28.120 --> 0:04:29.560 I didn't move to Perth, but I spent a lot 0:04:29.560 --> 0:04:35.720 of time over there, and so I just thought it'd 0:04:35.720 --> 0:04:37.719 be fun to have a sea change. I was just 0:04:37.800 --> 0:04:41.120 working a full time job at the pest Control in Newcastle, 0:04:42.080 --> 0:04:45.320 so I quit the best Control and drove up to Brisbane. 0:04:45.520 --> 0:04:49.400 Got a job at a restaurant because it was really 0:04:49.400 --> 0:04:51.720 easy for me to just get a waitressing job, and 0:04:51.760 --> 0:04:57.080 then I eventually landed myself a full time admin roll 0:04:57.240 --> 0:05:01.080 up in Brisbane, being a personal assistant. G James Glass 0:05:01.080 --> 0:05:02.520 and Aluminium shout out. 0:05:02.400 --> 0:05:04.479 To those coins spoken about the Yeah. 0:05:05.200 --> 0:05:07.839 And so then when I first moved up there, Shelle 0:05:07.839 --> 0:05:10.440 was still living at home, and so I moved into 0:05:10.440 --> 0:05:11.760 her like family's house and. 0:05:11.760 --> 0:05:15.120 Her name, Chelle is in Shelley, Like what's her name, Michelle? Michelle? 0:05:15.200 --> 0:05:17.479 Okay, yeah, And so I moved into like the spare 0:05:17.520 --> 0:05:20.440 room at her family's home. And then once I got 0:05:20.440 --> 0:05:22.839 my full time job, she already had her full time job. 0:05:22.920 --> 0:05:24.760 So then we moved out and got our own rental, 0:05:24.960 --> 0:05:26.960 so like roomies and whatever. And then we were like 0:05:27.200 --> 0:05:30.360 making makeup videos together, club and get ready with me, 0:05:30.960 --> 0:05:32.760 like you know, and we'd started making all these little 0:05:32.760 --> 0:05:35.760 friends in the beauty community, and we went to like 0:05:35.800 --> 0:05:37.800 imats together and all that, like this is back in 0:05:37.800 --> 0:05:40.200 those days, and it was just all fun. And I 0:05:40.240 --> 0:05:42.479 probably had twenty thousand followers at the time, Like it 0:05:42.560 --> 0:05:44.559 was so small. I can't believe I've still got people 0:05:44.560 --> 0:05:48.200 following me from back then, because this was so small, 0:05:48.400 --> 0:05:53.920 like anyway, blessed, Like I was so pissed off when 0:05:54.080 --> 0:05:56.760 all this happened. It wasn't even that big of a deal. 0:05:56.839 --> 0:05:59.440 And I even said it back in the day. So 0:05:59.480 --> 0:06:02.279 we just like I'd just gotten my full time job. 0:06:03.400 --> 0:06:06.039 We just moved into the house, or maybe it was 0:06:06.080 --> 0:06:08.680 six months into the twelve month lease, and I came 0:06:08.680 --> 0:06:13.120 home from work one day and Shell said, I'm I'm leaving. 0:06:13.200 --> 0:06:16.080 I'm going to work on a cruise ship, like doing 0:06:16.120 --> 0:06:18.560 beauty therapy on a cruise ship, like and I'm going 0:06:18.920 --> 0:06:22.880 like basically now. And then so me, like being a 0:06:22.880 --> 0:06:25.919 young emotional gal, I was just like, what the fuck, 0:06:26.040 --> 0:06:29.679 Like I've just moved here, We've just got this house lease, 0:06:31.440 --> 0:06:33.159 and I was just so mad I'd just gotten my 0:06:33.200 --> 0:06:36.000 full time job. And like I didn't not that it 0:06:36.040 --> 0:06:37.920 was her fault, but I didn't have any other friends 0:06:38.000 --> 0:06:39.880 up there or anything. I had my little boyfriend, but 0:06:39.880 --> 0:06:41.920 that was never going to work out anyway, and we 0:06:41.920 --> 0:06:45.480 weren't like living together or anything, and so I was like. 0:06:45.440 --> 0:06:45.920 What the hell? 0:06:46.120 --> 0:06:48.559 So I just moved back to Newcastle, broke the lease 0:06:48.640 --> 0:06:50.599 and that was it, And that was the end of 0:06:50.600 --> 0:06:51.120 the friendship. 0:06:51.440 --> 0:06:54.920 Yeah, but it's just like everyone thinks it's just so much. 0:06:56.400 --> 0:06:58.279 Yeah, they're like, what's the tea? But I even said 0:06:58.279 --> 0:06:59.800 that back then. I was like, she was going to 0:06:59.800 --> 0:07:01.839 work on a cruise ship. So I just moved back 0:07:01.839 --> 0:07:04.320 home because like I couldn't afford the rent by myself, 0:07:04.920 --> 0:07:07.240 which was probably four hundred dollars a week for this 0:07:07.480 --> 0:07:10.280 big apartment back then. It's probably one thousand dollars a 0:07:10.320 --> 0:07:12.360 week now. But I couldn't afford the rent on my own, 0:07:12.880 --> 0:07:14.600 Like I didn't have any other friends, Like I was 0:07:14.640 --> 0:07:16.560 really new there. So I just packed my shit and 0:07:16.600 --> 0:07:23.800 moved home. And that's what happened there. Nice, So what 0:07:23.880 --> 0:07:30.240 happened with you and Michael Binch? What actually happened there? There? 0:07:30.320 --> 0:07:33.000 Really isn't too much to this story either. But I 0:07:33.040 --> 0:07:34.800 think that a lot of people don't realize that Michael 0:07:34.800 --> 0:07:38.000 and I were friends before we started YouTube as well. 0:07:38.040 --> 0:07:40.080 We knew each other since I want to say, I 0:07:40.120 --> 0:07:41.800 was just trying to do the calculations in my head 0:07:41.800 --> 0:07:43.680 while you were telling your story. But I want to 0:07:43.680 --> 0:07:46.480 say two thousand and nine, twenty ten, we met each 0:07:46.520 --> 0:07:51.800 other because we both loved Lady Gaga and so at 0:07:51.840 --> 0:07:54.320 that time, what two thousand and nine, twenty ten, what 0:07:54.360 --> 0:07:59.280 would I have been, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen years old? And yeah, 0:07:59.320 --> 0:08:01.160 it was just like, you know, we both were from 0:08:01.320 --> 0:08:03.880 kind of rural not the Central Ghost is really rural, 0:08:03.920 --> 0:08:06.920 but he obviously was from Aubrey Wodongo, which is really rural. 0:08:07.360 --> 0:08:09.480 So you just connect and find people on the internet, 0:08:09.560 --> 0:08:11.400 you know that are similar to you, and Michael and 0:08:11.440 --> 0:08:13.360 I are very similar. And we both loved Lady Gaga, 0:08:13.360 --> 0:08:15.360 and we had a few other friends as well in 0:08:15.440 --> 0:08:20.240 this like kind of little friend group and then you know, 0:08:21.120 --> 0:08:24.240 one thing led to another and eventually we start YouTube 0:08:24.280 --> 0:08:29.600 channels and things like that, and yeah, fun. But I 0:08:29.640 --> 0:08:32.360 will say like it was just like a really bitchy 0:08:32.840 --> 0:08:37.000 friendship where we were just young gays who were like 0:08:37.160 --> 0:08:40.480 fifteen years old, Like we were horrible to one another, 0:08:40.840 --> 0:08:41.440 but you know. 0:08:41.800 --> 0:08:44.280 Because then I was friends with you during the time 0:08:44.320 --> 0:08:45.920 that you two became really good But. 0:08:45.800 --> 0:08:47.640 That's when we were like we were now like twenty, 0:08:47.640 --> 0:08:49.720 that's when we're like twenty, that's like five years later. 0:08:49.960 --> 0:08:53.360 Yeah, but I remember we I. 0:08:53.280 --> 0:08:55.800 Don't think that math adds up. Maybe I was no, 0:08:55.880 --> 0:08:58.520 I was definitely like fifteen. I know I was fifteen 0:08:58.760 --> 0:09:02.640 when I knew him. But then I think I started 0:09:02.640 --> 0:09:05.680 my channel when I was maybe nineteen. So yeah, that 0:09:05.760 --> 0:09:09.760 checks out two thousand and nine, twenty ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen. 0:09:11.520 --> 0:09:13.400 I don't know, I'm a bit funny on the maths, 0:09:13.400 --> 0:09:17.160 theah everyone, But anyway, we all were just really bitchy gays, 0:09:17.200 --> 0:09:19.760 and so we all were pretty stab each other in 0:09:19.800 --> 0:09:22.200 the back kind of vibes. But that's like what it 0:09:22.240 --> 0:09:24.720 was when we were younger, you know. Anyway, then we 0:09:24.800 --> 0:09:27.000 became really good friends. We had a lot of drama, 0:09:27.000 --> 0:09:28.880 which I can't even be bothered. It's not even relevant 0:09:28.920 --> 0:09:32.080 because that was before we even had YouTube channels. But 0:09:32.120 --> 0:09:35.800 we had a lot of drama before that, so we 0:09:36.040 --> 0:09:39.439 were already off to a rocky fucking start. People. Anyway, 0:09:39.440 --> 0:09:42.439 we start our YouTube channel, we both start our YouTube. 0:09:42.240 --> 0:09:46.640 Channels, and I remember, can I say, I so vividly 0:09:46.679 --> 0:09:49.079 remember is this when I come in the picture and 0:09:49.120 --> 0:09:51.600 you is it both starting your YouTube channel, and I 0:09:51.640 --> 0:09:53.240 remember saying I don't know if it was to you 0:09:53.360 --> 0:09:57.040 and Michael when we went on that Sydney weekend away together. 0:09:58.120 --> 0:09:59.800 I don't know if it was then, but I remember 0:09:59.800 --> 0:10:02.400 saying saying, to you both, guys, doing makeup is going 0:10:02.480 --> 0:10:05.840 to be so popular really soon. And then that's when 0:10:05.840 --> 0:10:08.720 he started getting into his makeup tutorials more and more. 0:10:08.960 --> 0:10:13.640 Yeah, so at that time, the funniest part was you 0:10:13.679 --> 0:10:17.760 and I had known each other from previous working in 0:10:17.800 --> 0:10:20.240 the same center, blah blah blah, just keeping in contact. 0:10:20.280 --> 0:10:22.840 But at that point we were kind of like acquaintances. 0:10:22.880 --> 0:10:25.400 Would you say we weren't really like really good friends. 0:10:25.520 --> 0:10:27.720 No, yeah, we just met working at Westfield. 0:10:27.840 --> 0:10:31.400 Because I remember doing going to that Sydney weekend. I 0:10:31.440 --> 0:10:35.880 remember him being your friend and me not so much 0:10:35.920 --> 0:10:38.719 being your friend, me being like the one on the outside, 0:10:38.720 --> 0:10:40.000 like I was like the third. 0:10:39.760 --> 0:10:42.360 Week context the three of us decided to have a 0:10:42.360 --> 0:10:45.840 weekend away in Sydney was Imatz was on International Makeup 0:10:45.920 --> 0:10:46.600 Artist trade. 0:10:46.400 --> 0:10:50.440 Show, by the way, and we all went down to 0:10:50.440 --> 0:10:53.160 Sydney and and and Brittany and Michael were friends, and 0:10:53.240 --> 0:10:55.439 I was like, I was friends with both of them. 0:10:55.440 --> 0:10:57.840 But Brittany and I never really had more than a 0:10:57.880 --> 0:10:59.400 surface level conversation by this. 0:11:00.080 --> 0:11:02.360 But you and I got along really well on that trip, 0:11:02.559 --> 0:11:03.760 Like we hit it. 0:11:03.760 --> 0:11:05.800 Off and he didn't like that. 0:11:06.120 --> 0:11:09.440 Yeah, there was bitchy energy from like both of you. 0:11:09.520 --> 0:11:11.480 And I remember we went out for dinner in Darling 0:11:11.559 --> 0:11:14.360 Harbor there and we went to that like, what's that 0:11:14.440 --> 0:11:15.680 restaurant that's on the corner. 0:11:16.520 --> 0:11:19.280 Yeah, it starts with C Yeah, and I used to 0:11:19.440 --> 0:11:21.800 love it. And they did the Sprinkle Cosmopolitan. 0:11:21.920 --> 0:11:23.480 Yes, we went and got that. And I remember even 0:11:23.520 --> 0:11:25.679 then YouTube were like bickering at each other and. 0:11:25.679 --> 0:11:28.760 Being but we always did. We always had a bickering 0:11:28.800 --> 0:11:30.120 friendship where we'd just be. 0:11:30.440 --> 0:11:32.880 Like, like you get on each other's nerves really, yeah, 0:11:32.920 --> 0:11:35.160 And I remember that weekend it was just like tens. 0:11:36.920 --> 0:11:39.120 Anyway, we stayed friends for ages after that, but that 0:11:39.240 --> 0:11:41.800 was just our friendship. So you have to understand that 0:11:41.880 --> 0:11:43.880 was our friendship all the time. And then I think 0:11:43.960 --> 0:11:48.080 what happened was in the end the in the end, 0:11:48.160 --> 0:11:50.480 he was working at a lolly store. 0:11:50.760 --> 0:11:55.000 Yes, remember all videos about the Lolli show. Yes, like 0:11:55.040 --> 0:11:56.160 we'd get candy. 0:11:55.840 --> 0:11:58.800 Sent Yes, he'd send it to everyone, so I remember 0:11:58.800 --> 0:12:02.320 at the time, Shani wasn't friends with any of us. 0:12:02.880 --> 0:12:05.440 In fact, you'd had problems with Sharne because remember she 0:12:05.640 --> 0:12:07.440 you collabed with her, and then she thought you lost 0:12:07.440 --> 0:12:10.000 the footage on purpose or something, and I ended up 0:12:10.080 --> 0:12:10.439 running it. 0:12:10.600 --> 0:12:13.280 Years later, I did a collab video with Shany in 0:12:13.280 --> 0:12:16.160 this studio at the Gold Coast and we did each 0:12:16.200 --> 0:12:18.680 other's like the blindfold and makeup challenge, and because we 0:12:18.679 --> 0:12:20.600 were filming at a studio, we weren't like using our 0:12:20.640 --> 0:12:23.320 cameras or anything. The person at the studio lost the 0:12:23.520 --> 0:12:26.480 memory card and then I said to her, I'm so sorry, 0:12:26.520 --> 0:12:28.280 like this memory card is lost. This is when we 0:12:28.280 --> 0:12:30.960 were both like starting to grow on social media. And 0:12:31.000 --> 0:12:33.200 then I don't know was it Twitter or something back 0:12:33.200 --> 0:12:35.360 in the day, she tweeted that like I deleted the 0:12:35.360 --> 0:12:38.400 footage on purpose, and then I got fucking hated on 0:12:38.480 --> 0:12:41.240 by Shanny's audience. I was like, no, I've genuinely like, 0:12:41.320 --> 0:12:43.920 why would I intentionally lose this memory card, like I 0:12:43.960 --> 0:12:46.640 wanted to put up these videos. And the guy from 0:12:46.640 --> 0:12:48.960 the studio ended up finding it like a year or 0:12:48.960 --> 0:12:50.840 more later, He's like, I found that memory card that 0:12:50.880 --> 0:12:51.280 I lost. 0:12:51.320 --> 0:12:53.079 Oh my god. So that was a bit of a 0:12:53.600 --> 0:12:56.280 bit of fun done by then. Yeah, anyway, we're all 0:12:56.280 --> 0:12:59.880 good now. By the way, everyone yeah like we love Shanny. 0:13:01.480 --> 0:13:06.600 Well I always have love Shani, but yeah, she that 0:13:06.760 --> 0:13:09.360 happened anyway, So there was always drama then then there 0:13:09.400 --> 0:13:12.440 was just always always drama with someone and something and 0:13:12.440 --> 0:13:14.960 blah blah blah. And that was just the the crux 0:13:15.000 --> 0:13:17.720 of mine and Michael's friendship is there was always drama, 0:13:19.600 --> 0:13:22.640 but we also had no one else to lean on. 0:13:22.760 --> 0:13:25.880 I feel like we both had our We both were 0:13:26.000 --> 0:13:27.760 very similar in the fact that we were both men 0:13:27.800 --> 0:13:32.080 who wore makeup and came from places that didn't accept 0:13:32.080 --> 0:13:34.280 who we were, etcetera. So we did also confine in 0:13:34.320 --> 0:13:37.480 each other and felt, you know, very safe with one another. 0:13:39.280 --> 0:13:43.320 So anyway, then we ended up dating. Not kidding, I 0:13:43.360 --> 0:13:46.920 was like, what, I just thought to make sure you're 0:13:46.960 --> 0:13:53.440 all still with me? Well, no, but that sounded like 0:13:53.480 --> 0:13:55.560 I was going down that path, didn't I. But seriously 0:13:55.600 --> 0:13:57.680 we did. We had that kind of safety and security 0:13:57.720 --> 0:14:01.280 with each other and even with all the drama. Anyway, 0:14:01.400 --> 0:14:03.280 he was working in the lolly short shop. I remember 0:14:03.320 --> 0:14:06.480 he sent Shanny a bunch of lollies and then he 0:14:06.679 --> 0:14:09.360 was like, oh, and Shannie did the video, and he 0:14:09.400 --> 0:14:11.480 was like in contact with Shanni and then went up 0:14:11.480 --> 0:14:13.319 and did her makeup or something, and then that's when 0:14:13.320 --> 0:14:17.880 they had their friendship blossom. And I think at the time, 0:14:18.800 --> 0:14:21.360 I can't remember. I'm hazy on the details. I definitely 0:14:21.440 --> 0:14:23.560 was still friends with him, but I don't know whether 0:14:23.600 --> 0:14:25.280 you were friends with him at this point or whether 0:14:25.320 --> 0:14:26.080 that came later. 0:14:27.200 --> 0:14:29.080 I don't feel like I was ever like close close 0:14:29.120 --> 0:14:31.120 friends with Michael, Like I feel like it was always 0:14:31.160 --> 0:14:34.320 like a like through you really. 0:14:34.520 --> 0:14:37.960 Okay, that's so weird because I feel like it wasn't 0:14:38.000 --> 0:14:38.560 like that, but. 0:14:38.480 --> 0:14:40.640 Anyway, how it was to me like I was always 0:14:40.640 --> 0:14:41.400 an outsider. 0:14:41.880 --> 0:14:44.000 Wow, that's fucking bizarre, because I feel like I was 0:14:44.000 --> 0:14:46.680 the outsider to begin with, and then he probably feels 0:14:46.720 --> 0:14:49.720 he was the outsider as well at one point or another. 0:14:49.800 --> 0:14:51.920 I feel like Michael and I like just lost touch, 0:14:51.960 --> 0:14:54.600 And I also feel like him and Shanni rose to 0:14:54.680 --> 0:14:58.240 such fame back then. I do like not to shame 0:14:58.320 --> 0:15:01.040 either of them, like they're both legend, but I think 0:15:01.080 --> 0:15:03.480 they got very caught up in their own little Shanni 0:15:03.560 --> 0:15:07.280 and Michael bubble that like all the other YouTubers kind 0:15:07.280 --> 0:15:10.160 of got left behind kind of thing. Like that's what 0:15:10.240 --> 0:15:13.920 I would say had part in your relationship. 0:15:13.400 --> 0:15:17.640 With basically yeah, but he then got famous. 0:15:17.200 --> 0:15:19.080 And I think we then felt like we were left 0:15:19.120 --> 0:15:21.120 behind kind of thing. But it's like we were there 0:15:21.160 --> 0:15:23.000 from the start, like I think it was that was 0:15:23.240 --> 0:15:26.720 the reason that like the relationship kind of just dwindled 0:15:26.960 --> 0:15:28.800 because we got left behind and they were doing all 0:15:28.840 --> 0:15:32.080 their massive meet and greets and everything, and then it 0:15:32.120 --> 0:15:34.120 was like we just all lost touch kind of thing, 0:15:34.160 --> 0:15:37.880 and maybe we weren't relevant enough, Like I'm just saying it, 0:15:37.920 --> 0:15:40.240 like I felt like we weren't relevant enough anymore to 0:15:40.360 --> 0:15:43.960 collab with them because they were just on this massive. 0:15:44.040 --> 0:15:49.880 Trajectory, yeah, which is yeah, essentially like how I I 0:15:49.880 --> 0:15:52.200 guess I felt at the time because he just like 0:15:52.280 --> 0:15:54.800 ghosted me at the time, which also I get it. 0:15:54.880 --> 0:15:57.560 He was probably so busy, couldn't be bothered as well, 0:15:58.520 --> 0:16:02.360 big and famous whatever, busy. We're also on two different 0:16:02.360 --> 0:16:04.680 wavelengths now. He was wearing all the designer stuff. I 0:16:04.680 --> 0:16:07.120 couldn't afford any of that, Like we're two different people now, 0:16:07.120 --> 0:16:08.720 there's too much of a separation. 0:16:08.840 --> 0:16:10.360 I think that's the thing as well, Like we were 0:16:10.400 --> 0:16:14.280 all so young, we were literally teenagers and like going 0:16:14.280 --> 0:16:17.360 into our early twenties, like we all change in evolved 0:16:17.360 --> 0:16:19.440 so much in those years in our life, and we 0:16:19.440 --> 0:16:21.640 were just all doing that in front of an audience. 0:16:22.720 --> 0:16:24.280 I also want to say, I feel like there was 0:16:24.360 --> 0:16:27.360 so much more to this that I have just forgotten about. 0:16:28.040 --> 0:16:32.560 I feel like we are we have lived a fucking life, 0:16:32.600 --> 0:16:34.760 and I feel like I, first of all, also want 0:16:34.800 --> 0:16:38.800 to say, there's to make it clear, there's absolutely no 0:16:38.880 --> 0:16:41.320 bad blood. Now. We actually made up at the TikTok 0:16:41.360 --> 0:16:44.240 Awards last year. Michael and I. I mean, we hadn't 0:16:44.320 --> 0:16:49.480 spoken in like six seven years or something. I feel 0:16:49.520 --> 0:16:53.520 like the we I noticed he unfollowed me years ago, 0:16:53.640 --> 0:16:55.800 and so I unfollowed him once I had realized that 0:16:55.840 --> 0:16:58.480 he had unfollowed me, and we just hadn't spoken, cross 0:16:58.520 --> 0:17:01.440 paths or nothing in like seven years. It was bizarre 0:17:02.080 --> 0:17:04.439 that we didn't actually run into each other. And then 0:17:04.480 --> 0:17:08.280 obviously he was nominated for the TikTok Award, so I 0:17:08.320 --> 0:17:09.959 knew it. I was I knew that I was going 0:17:10.040 --> 0:17:14.679 to see him, and I was a little bit apprehensive, 0:17:14.720 --> 0:17:15.600 but I was a. 0:17:15.520 --> 0:17:18.320 Little bit and I was saying, no Matt, He's going 0:17:18.400 --> 0:17:21.520 to be fine, but when you haven't seen an old 0:17:21.560 --> 0:17:25.080 friend for so long, and then anyway, it was like 0:17:25.119 --> 0:17:28.040 how are like? And it was all well and good. 0:17:27.960 --> 0:17:30.439 And we kind of had a conversation about it about 0:17:30.440 --> 0:17:32.600 how like silly the whole thing was. And then you 0:17:32.640 --> 0:17:34.280 know what's funny is that night he was like, I'm 0:17:34.320 --> 0:17:36.199 looking for new management, and I went, well, come to 0:17:36.240 --> 0:17:38.960 my management company. They're fabulous, and he has signed with 0:17:39.000 --> 0:17:41.560 them now, so I feel like I'll see him a 0:17:41.560 --> 0:17:45.440 lot more. But yeah, I mean, even with all the 0:17:45.560 --> 0:17:47.639 bickering and the nonsense and the drama that went on, 0:17:47.680 --> 0:17:50.239 and I mean there was just so much and so 0:17:50.440 --> 0:17:53.160 much of that stuff that's just so if I actually 0:17:53.200 --> 0:17:55.360 could remember it today, we'd go, what the fuck did 0:17:55.359 --> 0:17:56.760 we cause a drama about that? 0:17:56.800 --> 0:17:57.119 For me? 0:17:57.640 --> 0:18:01.320 You know, we just ah, wait, there was always a drama, 0:18:01.560 --> 0:18:05.119 But that's at that time. I feel I'm very different 0:18:05.119 --> 0:18:07.480 now and I feel he's very different now. But at 0:18:07.480 --> 0:18:10.720 that time, Mountain out of a mole hill was both 0:18:10.760 --> 0:18:14.320 of our things like the tiniest bit of drama and 0:18:14.320 --> 0:18:16.879 it was, oh my god, it was such a big deal. 0:18:17.160 --> 0:18:20.320 And I think, like the interesting thing about like having 0:18:20.359 --> 0:18:24.960 friendships online for example, like mine and shell Barbie from 0:18:25.000 --> 0:18:28.320 back in the day, Like people come and go from 0:18:28.320 --> 0:18:31.359 your life all the time. And I find that people 0:18:31.359 --> 0:18:35.960 were always so heavily critical of people coming and going 0:18:35.960 --> 0:18:39.240 from friendships, like in the public eye, like I remember 0:18:39.240 --> 0:18:41.760 people saying like, oh, Brittany and Shell Barbie aren't friends anymore, 0:18:41.760 --> 0:18:43.960 Brittany can't keep a friend, blah blah blah. But like, 0:18:44.240 --> 0:18:46.360 welcome to life, Like people come and go from our 0:18:46.400 --> 0:18:49.679 life throughout our whole life, and that's totally fine and normal. 0:18:49.880 --> 0:18:51.600 And the fact that we still get asked about that 0:18:51.640 --> 0:18:54.680 to this day, it's like quite interesting, but like it's 0:18:54.760 --> 0:18:59.440 never anything big. It's just like nineteen year olds like 0:18:59.720 --> 0:19:02.920 nav gating through life in this new social media world 0:19:02.920 --> 0:19:05.840