Speaker 1: What we saw was a pretty wide scale revolt against
Speaker 1: the mass deportation operation that the Trump administration has been
Speaker 1: executing since he took office.
Speaker 2: Immigration agents ies all that came, you know, became dressed
Speaker 2: up in all their military.
Speaker 3: Gear, and they stopped traffic.
Speaker 1: When they stopped traffic, we started noticing basically what these
Speaker 1: were were protests in response to a series of Varanians
Speaker 1: or ICE enforcement operations in the Los Angeles area, which
Speaker 1: has a very dense migrant community.
Speaker 3: Eric Cordlessa is Times Senior political correspondent. He's been watching
Speaker 3: what happened over the weekend in Los Angeles when Ice
Speaker 3: turned up in LA's Fashion district to deport undocumented workers,
Speaker 3: and protests turned into riots.
Speaker 4: Carrying out not just your wrestling at charge.
Speaker 1: Of the car, and you know, in some cases they
Speaker 1: escalated to the point where there were clashes with police.
Speaker 1: There was video of some of the protesters throwing rocks
Speaker 1: of police cars and other things like that.
Speaker 3: Police in Los Angeles made at least twenty seven arrests.
Speaker 3: Officers repeatedly fired rubber bullets at protesters. Now is the
Speaker 3: standing off? The situation has now one hit. An Australian
Speaker 3: journalist as she was reporting from the streets.
Speaker 1: And as these images were being amplified on social media
Speaker 1: and television. You know, Donald Trump took some pretty aggressive
Speaker 1: actions to tamp down on the unrest, including to call
Speaker 1: in the National Guard and more recently, to deploy active
Speaker 1: duty marines into Los Angeles.
Speaker 3: From Schwartz Media, I'm Ruby Jones. This is seven.
Speaker 5: AM today, Eric card a lesser on the tipping point
Speaker 5: of Trump's mass deportations and whether the commandeering of the
Speaker 5: National Guard is a forerunner.
Speaker 3: To more authoritarian acts. It's Wednesday, June eleventh, So Eric Festival,
Speaker 3: welcome back to seven Am.
Speaker 1: It's good to be with you.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 1: Eric.
Speaker 3: The protests in LA they're a response to the ice
Speaker 3: raids that really began to ramp up over the past
Speaker 3: week or so. So to begin with, tell me about
Speaker 3: those raids.
Speaker 1: Well, we've seen a major expansion of immigration customs enforcement
Speaker 1: the Department of Homeland Securities efforts to identify, target, arrest,
Speaker 1: and deport migrants who have came to the country legally.
Speaker 1: And so what we've seen are targeted enforcement operations where
Speaker 1: there might be someone who is a migrant who has
Speaker 1: been convicted of a crime and they surveil them, they
Speaker 1: go and find them, they arrest them, and they deport them.
Speaker 1: There are other cases in which you have cities that
Speaker 1: participate with ICE that you might arrest someone on driving drunk,
Speaker 1: or maybe pull them over for a traffic violation, or
Speaker 1: get called because of a domestics disturbance and discover that
Speaker 1: the person is not here legally, and thus they then
Speaker 1: will hand them over to ICE and the deportation proceedings
Speaker 1: will begin.
Speaker 2: The number of arrests made by Immigration and Customs Enforcement
Speaker 2: under President Trump topped one hundred thousand this week. This
Speaker 2: is according to internal government data obtained by CBS News.
Speaker 2: The agency was averaging around six hundred and sixty arrests
Speaker 2: daily during the president's first one hundred days. The Trump
Speaker 2: administration has been intensifying efforts to detain unauthorized migrants in courthouses,
Speaker 2: work sites, and communities throughout the US and CBS News
Speaker 2: Immigration and polities.
Speaker 1: In some cases, though, there are what you might call
Speaker 1: arraid well, they'll go into schools, restaurants, they might go
Speaker 1: into a park where you have migrant landscape workers on
Speaker 1: the job, and they will arrest them in groups and
Speaker 1: then put them through these deportation proceedings. And you know
Speaker 1: what you're seeing in the legislation that the administration is
Speaker 1: pursuing right now on Capitol Hill. They're trying to ramp
Speaker 1: up the capacity for these law enforcement agencies to arrest
Speaker 1: more people, to process them at greater volume, and to
Speaker 1: be able to hold them into tention facilities while they're
Speaker 1: awaiting their removal from the country. And you know, the
Speaker 1: Trump administration has done a host of other things to
Speaker 1: really build on its deportation operation. It's recruited other law
Speaker 1: enforcement agencies to assist in the effort. They have enlisted
Speaker 1: other agencies that are not law enforcement agencies, like the
Speaker 1: IRS Post Service, to help target and identify migrants for deportations.
Speaker 1: So you're really seeing Donald Trump go full throttle on
Speaker 1: what was one of his biggest campaign promises, which was
Speaker 1: to deport more than eleven million undocumented migrs in the country.
Speaker 1: We will begin the largest deportation operation in the history
Speaker 1: of the United States.
Speaker 5: Dwight Eisenhower right now as that.
Speaker 1: Director, and Donald Trump has said He's going to try
Speaker 1: and get every single one of them out of the country.
Speaker 3: Okay, So I believe it was six pm Saturday, evening
Speaker 3: that Trump signed this memo to send in the National Guard.
Speaker 3: Can you tell me about that and what he said
Speaker 3: He's reasoning was.
Speaker 1: Well, his reasoning was that California Governor Gavin Newsom and
Speaker 1: Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass had not done enough to
Speaker 1: quell the unrest and that they needed backup and they
Speaker 1: needed to restore order.
Speaker 4: Well, we're gonna have coops everywhere. We're not gonna let
Speaker 4: this happen. We're not going to let our country be
Speaker 4: door depart like it.
Speaker 1: Was an to fight. And he also said that they
Speaker 1: were not going to allow heretics, protesters, demonstrators to interfere
Speaker 1: with their deportations. And so this was a matter of
Speaker 1: law enforcement. It was a matter of ensuring order on
Speaker 1: the streets of the major American city. Gavin Newsom has
Speaker 1: said that it was not called for. He didn't request it.
Speaker 4: I got a call from a staffer, no heads up whatsoever.
Speaker 4: And again, we're here to support local law enforcement. There's
Speaker 4: a mutual aid process. Local law enforcement had no needs
Speaker 4: that were out requesting any additional resources.
Speaker 1: He requested, in fact, that Secretary Defense Keith Hegseth pull
Speaker 1: withdraw the troops from Los Angeles and saying that what
Speaker 1: Trump was actually doing was escalating the conflict even further
Speaker 1: in order to win an argument in the battlefield of
Speaker 1: public opinion and to advance his argument that you need
Speaker 1: to deport people in order to have equilibrium in America.
Speaker 3: And you mentioned that Marines are also being sent in
Speaker 3: to join the National Guard in Los Angeles. Does this
Speaker 3: mean do you think that things are going to escalate
Speaker 3: even more over the next few days.
Speaker 1: It's certainly possible. And one thing you're seeing is more
Speaker 1: Americans than other cities who are starting to mobilize for
Speaker 1: mass protests. So, you know Trump's very aggressive actions to
Speaker 1: send in the National Guard, to send in Marines, you know,
Speaker 1: to say things like when they spit, we hit.
Speaker 2: They.
Speaker 1: Spin, we hit, And I told them, nobody's gonna spit
Speaker 1: on our police offices, nobody's gonna spit on our military,
Speaker 1: which they do. This is galvanizing a certain segment of
Speaker 1: the American society right to participate in the uprising. So
Speaker 1: it's not clear at this point how the conflict will
Speaker 1: be resolved.
Speaker 3: And the Californian governor Govin Newsom, he says that the
Speaker 3: state will sue the Trump administration.
Speaker 4: This is exactly what he wanted. This is what he
Speaker 4: intended by illegally acting to federalize the National Guard. We're
Speaker 4: going to be initiating a lawsuit first thing tomorrow morning.
Speaker 3: Can you tell me more about that and whether or
Speaker 3: not he has a case then.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, you know, he certainly has a case.
Speaker 3: I think you know.
Speaker 1: The rub of the situation for Newsom is that courts
Speaker 1: often move slowly, and you know, you have a Trump
Speaker 1: administration that will appeal any loss in order to bring
Speaker 1: it up to the Supreme Court, where they believe they
Speaker 1: have an emboldened conservative Supreme Court majority that has been
Speaker 1: pretty deferential on the executive's power, especially when it comes
Speaker 1: to matters of national security. So the legal fight is
Speaker 1: one that the Trump administration certainly anticipated and that they're
Speaker 1: very happy to engage in that fight. If you stand
Speaker 1: in the way of law enforcement operations, you know you
Speaker 1: could be subject potential to arrest. Are you saying that
Speaker 1: about Mayor Bass and Governor news Are they at risk
Speaker 1: of being arrested? I'll say about anybody you cross that line.
Speaker 1: It's a friendly to knowingly harboring case. It's a felinity
Speaker 1: to impede law enforcements doing their job. What crime has
Speaker 1: Governor Knewsome committed?
Speaker 5: A crime?
Speaker 1: Has he committed to warrant his arrest?
Speaker 3: I think is.
Speaker 4: Primarily primary crime is running for governor because he's done
Speaker 4: such a bad job.
Speaker 1: They have leveled this threat before that they will arrest anyone,
Speaker 1: whether it's a judge, whether it's a public official or
Speaker 1: a politician, or you know, average Joe or average Jane,
Speaker 1: if they impeded deportation enforcement. And so, you know, they
Speaker 1: are certainly suggesting that they are just something they aren't considering.
Speaker 1: I'm not entirely sure what they would say was the
Speaker 1: law that he broke? I think obviously that would create
Speaker 1: a pretty serious firestorm in the United States to see
Speaker 1: an elected leader of an opposition party, governor of another
Speaker 1: state be arrested by the president because he has criticized
Speaker 1: the president, or because he has resisted certain policies of
Speaker 1: the White House.
Speaker 3: Okay, so in the meantime, then what powers does Governor
Speaker 3: Newsoon have to stop what's happening? Can he, for instance,
Speaker 3: tell the National Guard to stand down?
Speaker 1: He certainly can tell the National Guard to stand down.
Speaker 1: He has said that this is a violation of state sovereignty.
Speaker 1: But as you've seen, he doesn't have the power to
Speaker 1: ensure that they listen to him. So right now, what
Speaker 1: you're really seeing is a real power struggle between you know,
Speaker 1: a state executive and the federal executive, and thus far
Speaker 1: the federal executive is winning.
Speaker 3: Coming up after the break, how Trump's deportations will reshape
Speaker 3: the US. Eric Trump is right now making good on
Speaker 3: his election promise to deport millions of undocumented migrants. He
Speaker 3: said he would do this. But do you think that
Speaker 3: the method is coming as a surprise to many people.
Speaker 1: It's coming as a surprise to some people, It's not
Speaker 1: coming as a surprise to others. I mean, Donald Trump
Speaker 1: was very clear on the campaign trail that this was
Speaker 1: something he was going to do. He was not shy
Speaker 1: about saying what methods he would use. I mean, I
Speaker 1: think one thing people were pretty surprised by was that
Speaker 1: he was willing to send Venezuelan nationals to a notorious
Speaker 1: Megaprison and l Salvador, the Terrorism Comminement Center or SEACAT.
Speaker 1: I think that really took a lot of people off guard.
Speaker 1: But the alacrity with which he has pursued deportations in
Speaker 1: which he has tried to enlist the entirety of the
Speaker 1: federal government to assist the efforts. This shouldn't come as
Speaker 1: a surprise to anybody, not anyone who's paying attention to
Speaker 1: him on the campaign Trill.
Speaker 3: And in terms of some of the scenes we're witnessing,
Speaker 3: I'm thinking in particular of journalists being shot at by
Speaker 3: US authorities. I think for a lot of people watching,
Speaker 3: it's raising questions about how far this administration is willing
Speaker 3: to go and whether this is just the beginning of
Speaker 3: the ways in which we might see democracy changed or
Speaker 3: tested over the next three years.
Speaker 1: Well, I think you know, one thing the administration has
Speaker 1: signaled from the outset is that it's willing to push
Speaker 1: the extremes in order to achieve its objectives of expelling
Speaker 1: millions of migrants from the country. And one thing they
Speaker 1: want to do is shock you and make you realize
Speaker 1: just how serious they are. And I think they also
Speaker 1: want to change the realities on the ground. They're moving
Speaker 1: at such speed right that the courts are playing catch up,
Speaker 1: that civil society is playing catch up, that migrants themselves
Speaker 1: don't know how to resist. Many are choosing to voluntarily
Speaker 1: depart from the country rather than fight their cases in court.
Speaker 1: They don't think they have a chance, and even if
Speaker 1: they did, they know they wouldn't be welcome here. I mean,
Speaker 1: I recently reported on the deportation operation from inside of
Speaker 1: one of the ICE attention centers in central Louisiana, and
Speaker 1: a recurrent theme I found when talking to the detainees
Speaker 1: was that they were resigned to their fate. They didn't
Speaker 1: feel like there was any utility in challenging their deportation order,
Speaker 1: and in fact, the warden of the prisons said fewer
Speaker 1: and fewer of the detainees are fighting their cases because
Speaker 1: they just don't think it's worth it. And so you're
Speaker 1: seeing the ripple effects play out across society where the
Speaker 1: United States has become this vegan for migration and for
Speaker 1: people seeking refuge for violence and oppression. The Trump administration
Speaker 1: is basically trying to reverse what has been decades long
Speaker 1: trend that has, you know, over time, remade the country
Speaker 1: demographically and socially.
Speaker 3: Yeah. How fundamentally does this change the country if millions
Speaker 3: of migrants are deported.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think, you know, for one, their economic
Speaker 1: impacts obviously, you know, we would lose a major source
Speaker 1: of labor, particularly you know, low wage labor.
Speaker 3: When you lose that.
Speaker 1: Labor, obviously, the risk that economists are pointing out is
Speaker 1: that it could lead to higher prices because you won't
Speaker 1: have these low skilled, lowage workers who are performing jobs
Speaker 1: that most Americans don't want to perform, and that those
Speaker 1: are also a very important base of employees that make
Speaker 1: it possible for people in higher local positions to have
Speaker 1: those jobs at companies throughout the country. The other thing
Speaker 1: is that it's sort of taking away from the sort
Speaker 1: of traditional American notion that everybody here has a hyphen
Speaker 1: in a way, right, you're Italian Americans, You're African American,
Speaker 1: Wish americanas or Chinese American Bright. But what you're seeing
Speaker 1: is a sort of nationalist event on immigrated tramps, a
Speaker 1: populist event where you know, America as a nation is
Speaker 1: geared from a policy perspective, as directed by the libraries
Speaker 1: of the Trump administration, toward people who are indigenous in
Speaker 1: some form of fashion, maybe more modernly indigenous to this soil.
Speaker 3: Eric, thank you so much for your time. Thank you.
Speaker 3: Also in the news today, Prime Minister Anthony Alberesi has
Speaker 3: described the footage of Nine correspondent Lauren to Massey being
Speaker 3: shot by a rubber bullet live on air as horrific.
Speaker 3: Albanesi said he has expressed his concern to the US government.
Speaker 3: The Media Union has also condemned the shooting, and a
Speaker 3: second fungled embryo implant at mornash IVF has sparked a
Speaker 3: new investigation. Mornash IVF yesterday revealed that a patient's own
Speaker 3: embryo was transferred instead of that patient's partner's embryo. It
Speaker 3: comes two months after the company revealed that a different
Speaker 3: patient had an embryo incorrectly transferred to her, meaning that
Speaker 3: she gave birth to the child of an unrelated woman.
Speaker 3: I'm Ruby Jones. This is seven am. See you tomorrow.