WEBVTT - How Trump’s mass deportations sparked a riot 0:00:04.160 --> 0:00:10.160 What we saw was a pretty wide scale revolt against 0:00:10.200 --> 0:00:15.800 the mass deportation operation that the Trump administration has been 0:00:15.920 --> 0:00:18.160 executing since he took office. 0:00:18.360 --> 0:00:22.160 Immigration agents ies all that came, you know, became dressed 0:00:22.200 --> 0:00:23.720 up in all their military. 0:00:23.280 --> 0:00:24.800 Gear, and they stopped traffic. 0:00:25.280 --> 0:00:28.880 When they stopped traffic, we started noticing basically what these 0:00:28.920 --> 0:00:32.880 were were protests in response to a series of Varanians 0:00:32.960 --> 0:00:35.479 or ICE enforcement operations in the Los Angeles area, which 0:00:35.520 --> 0:00:38.200 has a very dense migrant community. 0:00:39.120 --> 0:00:43.160 Eric Cordlessa is Times Senior political correspondent. He's been watching 0:00:43.200 --> 0:00:46.240 what happened over the weekend in Los Angeles when Ice 0:00:46.320 --> 0:00:50.080 turned up in LA's Fashion district to deport undocumented workers, 0:00:50.440 --> 0:01:00.440 and protests turned into riots. 0:00:56.320 --> 0:01:02.320 Carrying out not just your wrestling at charge. 0:01:02.040 --> 0:01:05.280 Of the car, and you know, in some cases they 0:01:05.640 --> 0:01:09.000 escalated to the point where there were clashes with police. 0:01:09.120 --> 0:01:12.200 There was video of some of the protesters throwing rocks 0:01:12.200 --> 0:01:13.959 of police cars and other things like that. 0:01:16.959 --> 0:01:20.040 Police in Los Angeles made at least twenty seven arrests. 0:01:20.560 --> 0:01:24.960 Officers repeatedly fired rubber bullets at protesters. Now is the 0:01:25.120 --> 0:01:28.640 standing off? The situation has now one hit. An Australian 0:01:28.680 --> 0:01:38.480 journalist as she was reporting from the streets. 0:01:34.520 --> 0:01:39.479 And as these images were being amplified on social media 0:01:39.920 --> 0:01:43.760 and television. You know, Donald Trump took some pretty aggressive 0:01:43.800 --> 0:01:48.200 actions to tamp down on the unrest, including to call 0:01:48.240 --> 0:01:51.440 in the National Guard and more recently, to deploy active 0:01:51.520 --> 0:01:56.680 duty marines into Los Angeles. 0:01:57.400 --> 0:02:00.880 From Schwartz Media, I'm Ruby Jones. This is seven. 0:02:00.680 --> 0:02:09.640 AM today, Eric card a lesser on the tipping point 0:02:09.680 --> 0:02:13.320 of Trump's mass deportations and whether the commandeering of the 0:02:13.440 --> 0:02:15.720 National Guard is a forerunner. 0:02:15.240 --> 0:02:30.560 To more authoritarian acts. It's Wednesday, June eleventh, So Eric Festival, 0:02:30.639 --> 0:02:32.120 welcome back to seven Am. 0:02:32.320 --> 0:02:33.160 It's good to be with you. 0:02:33.240 --> 0:02:33.560 Thank you. 0:02:33.919 --> 0:02:34.119 Eric. 0:02:34.280 --> 0:02:36.880 The protests in LA they're a response to the ice 0:02:37.000 --> 0:02:40.000 raids that really began to ramp up over the past 0:02:40.040 --> 0:02:43.280 week or so. So to begin with, tell me about 0:02:43.280 --> 0:02:44.040 those raids. 0:02:44.200 --> 0:02:50.480 Well, we've seen a major expansion of immigration customs enforcement 0:02:50.520 --> 0:02:56.160 the Department of Homeland Securities efforts to identify, target, arrest, 0:02:56.720 --> 0:03:00.440 and deport migrants who have came to the country legally. 0:03:01.000 --> 0:03:05.639 And so what we've seen are targeted enforcement operations where 0:03:05.720 --> 0:03:09.560 there might be someone who is a migrant who has 0:03:09.600 --> 0:03:14.080 been convicted of a crime and they surveil them, they 0:03:14.120 --> 0:03:17.200 go and find them, they arrest them, and they deport them. 0:03:17.680 --> 0:03:20.640 There are other cases in which you have cities that 0:03:20.680 --> 0:03:25.680 participate with ICE that you might arrest someone on driving drunk, 0:03:26.200 --> 0:03:29.720 or maybe pull them over for a traffic violation, or 0:03:30.000 --> 0:03:32.720 get called because of a domestics disturbance and discover that 0:03:32.760 --> 0:03:35.839 the person is not here legally, and thus they then 0:03:36.120 --> 0:03:38.920 will hand them over to ICE and the deportation proceedings 0:03:38.960 --> 0:03:39.440 will begin. 0:03:39.680 --> 0:03:42.560 The number of arrests made by Immigration and Customs Enforcement 0:03:42.600 --> 0:03:46.080 under President Trump topped one hundred thousand this week. This 0:03:46.160 --> 0:03:49.280 is according to internal government data obtained by CBS News. 0:03:49.280 --> 0:03:52.800 The agency was averaging around six hundred and sixty arrests 0:03:53.040 --> 0:03:56.240 daily during the president's first one hundred days. The Trump 0:03:56.280 --> 0:04:01.000 administration has been intensifying efforts to detain unauthorized migrants in courthouses, 0:04:01.080 --> 0:04:04.280 work sites, and communities throughout the US and CBS News 0:04:04.480 --> 0:04:05.680 Immigration and polities. 0:04:05.720 --> 0:04:08.160 In some cases, though, there are what you might call 0:04:08.440 --> 0:04:11.680 arraid well, they'll go into schools, restaurants, they might go 0:04:11.720 --> 0:04:15.880 into a park where you have migrant landscape workers on 0:04:16.000 --> 0:04:19.680 the job, and they will arrest them in groups and 0:04:19.800 --> 0:04:23.960 then put them through these deportation proceedings. And you know 0:04:24.000 --> 0:04:27.080 what you're seeing in the legislation that the administration is 0:04:27.120 --> 0:04:30.200 pursuing right now on Capitol Hill. They're trying to ramp 0:04:30.279 --> 0:04:34.720 up the capacity for these law enforcement agencies to arrest 0:04:34.800 --> 0:04:38.719 more people, to process them at greater volume, and to 0:04:38.760 --> 0:04:41.120 be able to hold them into tention facilities while they're 0:04:41.120 --> 0:04:43.960 awaiting their removal from the country. And you know, the 0:04:43.960 --> 0:04:46.320 Trump administration has done a host of other things to 0:04:46.920 --> 0:04:50.040 really build on its deportation operation. It's recruited other law 0:04:50.120 --> 0:04:55.200 enforcement agencies to assist in the effort. They have enlisted 0:04:56.000 --> 0:04:58.719 other agencies that are not law enforcement agencies, like the 0:04:58.760 --> 0:05:03.520 IRS Post Service, to help target and identify migrants for deportations. 0:05:03.560 --> 0:05:07.280 So you're really seeing Donald Trump go full throttle on 0:05:07.360 --> 0:05:10.560 what was one of his biggest campaign promises, which was 0:05:10.560 --> 0:05:15.239 to deport more than eleven million undocumented migrs in the country. 0:05:15.839 --> 0:05:19.840 We will begin the largest deportation operation in the history 0:05:19.839 --> 0:05:20.960 of the United States. 0:05:21.040 --> 0:05:23.800 Dwight Eisenhower right now as that. 0:05:23.839 --> 0:05:26.280 Director, and Donald Trump has said He's going to try 0:05:26.279 --> 0:05:27.960 and get every single one of them out of the country. 0:05:30.760 --> 0:05:34.520 Okay, So I believe it was six pm Saturday, evening 0:05:34.680 --> 0:05:38.279 that Trump signed this memo to send in the National Guard. 0:05:38.720 --> 0:05:41.000 Can you tell me about that and what he said 0:05:41.040 --> 0:05:42.320 He's reasoning was. 0:05:42.880 --> 0:05:47.599 Well, his reasoning was that California Governor Gavin Newsom and 0:05:47.800 --> 0:05:50.960 Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass had not done enough to 0:05:51.080 --> 0:05:54.920 quell the unrest and that they needed backup and they 0:05:54.960 --> 0:05:56.720 needed to restore order. 0:05:56.920 --> 0:05:59.040 Well, we're gonna have coops everywhere. We're not gonna let 0:05:59.040 --> 0:06:01.400 this happen. We're not going to let our country be 0:06:01.520 --> 0:06:02.920 door depart like it. 0:06:03.000 --> 0:06:06.000 Was an to fight. And he also said that they 0:06:06.000 --> 0:06:12.480 were not going to allow heretics, protesters, demonstrators to interfere 0:06:12.560 --> 0:06:16.040 with their deportations. And so this was a matter of 0:06:16.120 --> 0:06:20.000 law enforcement. It was a matter of ensuring order on 0:06:20.040 --> 0:06:23.680 the streets of the major American city. Gavin Newsom has 0:06:23.760 --> 0:06:26.720 said that it was not called for. He didn't request it. 0:06:27.320 --> 0:06:30.120 I got a call from a staffer, no heads up whatsoever. 0:06:30.720 --> 0:06:34.599 And again, we're here to support local law enforcement. There's 0:06:34.600 --> 0:06:37.680 a mutual aid process. Local law enforcement had no needs 0:06:37.880 --> 0:06:40.520 that were out requesting any additional resources. 0:06:40.680 --> 0:06:46.440 He requested, in fact, that Secretary Defense Keith Hegseth pull 0:06:46.640 --> 0:06:50.800 withdraw the troops from Los Angeles and saying that what 0:06:50.800 --> 0:06:54.640 Trump was actually doing was escalating the conflict even further 0:06:55.240 --> 0:06:59.279 in order to win an argument in the battlefield of 0:06:59.279 --> 0:07:03.599 public opinion and to advance his argument that you need 0:07:03.640 --> 0:07:09.680 to deport people in order to have equilibrium in America. 0:07:10.640 --> 0:07:14.600 And you mentioned that Marines are also being sent in 0:07:14.880 --> 0:07:18.280 to join the National Guard in Los Angeles. Does this 0:07:18.400 --> 0:07:20.760 mean do you think that things are going to escalate 0:07:20.880 --> 0:07:22.440 even more over the next few days. 0:07:22.640 --> 0:07:25.800 It's certainly possible. And one thing you're seeing is more 0:07:26.240 --> 0:07:29.520 Americans than other cities who are starting to mobilize for 0:07:29.680 --> 0:07:34.200 mass protests. So, you know Trump's very aggressive actions to 0:07:34.240 --> 0:07:37.440 send in the National Guard, to send in Marines, you know, 0:07:37.520 --> 0:07:39.840 to say things like when they spit, we hit. 0:07:40.120 --> 0:07:40.440 They. 0:07:42.040 --> 0:07:46.880 Spin, we hit, And I told them, nobody's gonna spit 0:07:46.960 --> 0:07:50.840 on our police offices, nobody's gonna spit on our military, 0:07:51.080 --> 0:07:53.600 which they do. This is galvanizing a certain segment of 0:07:53.640 --> 0:07:59.680 the American society right to participate in the uprising. So 0:08:00.600 --> 0:08:03.640 it's not clear at this point how the conflict will 0:08:03.640 --> 0:08:04.200 be resolved. 0:08:04.960 --> 0:08:07.960 And the Californian governor Govin Newsom, he says that the 0:08:08.000 --> 0:08:10.120 state will sue the Trump administration. 0:08:10.360 --> 0:08:12.120 This is exactly what he wanted. This is what he 0:08:12.160 --> 0:08:17.720 intended by illegally acting to federalize the National Guard. We're 0:08:17.800 --> 0:08:21.040 going to be initiating a lawsuit first thing tomorrow morning. 0:08:21.280 --> 0:08:23.400 Can you tell me more about that and whether or 0:08:23.440 --> 0:08:24.520 not he has a case then. 0:08:24.760 --> 0:08:27.240 Well, I mean, you know, he certainly has a case. 0:08:27.320 --> 0:08:28.120 I think you know. 0:08:28.280 --> 0:08:32.600 The rub of the situation for Newsom is that courts 0:08:32.679 --> 0:08:36.080 often move slowly, and you know, you have a Trump 0:08:36.120 --> 0:08:39.560 administration that will appeal any loss in order to bring 0:08:39.600 --> 0:08:41.760 it up to the Supreme Court, where they believe they 0:08:41.760 --> 0:08:46.040 have an emboldened conservative Supreme Court majority that has been 0:08:46.120 --> 0:08:50.679 pretty deferential on the executive's power, especially when it comes 0:08:50.720 --> 0:08:54.040 to matters of national security. So the legal fight is 0:08:54.120 --> 0:08:57.200 one that the Trump administration certainly anticipated and that they're 0:08:57.280 --> 0:08:59.720 very happy to engage in that fight. If you stand 0:08:59.720 --> 0:09:02.120 in the way of law enforcement operations, you know you 0:09:02.160 --> 0:09:05.080 could be subject potential to arrest. Are you saying that 0:09:05.160 --> 0:09:07.840 about Mayor Bass and Governor news Are they at risk 0:09:07.920 --> 0:09:10.840 of being arrested? I'll say about anybody you cross that line. 0:09:11.200 --> 0:09:15.160 It's a friendly to knowingly harboring case. It's a felinity 0:09:15.280 --> 0:09:17.880 to impede law enforcements doing their job. What crime has 0:09:17.920 --> 0:09:19.040 Governor Knewsome committed? 0:09:19.720 --> 0:09:20.080 A crime? 0:09:20.160 --> 0:09:22.160 Has he committed to warrant his arrest? 0:09:22.559 --> 0:09:22.960 I think is. 0:09:23.040 --> 0:09:26.800 Primarily primary crime is running for governor because he's done 0:09:26.840 --> 0:09:27.760 such a bad job. 0:09:28.120 --> 0:09:32.480 They have leveled this threat before that they will arrest anyone, 0:09:32.520 --> 0:09:35.000 whether it's a judge, whether it's a public official or 0:09:35.040 --> 0:09:38.640 a politician, or you know, average Joe or average Jane, 0:09:39.320 --> 0:09:46.439 if they impeded deportation enforcement. And so, you know, they 0:09:46.600 --> 0:09:50.080 are certainly suggesting that they are just something they aren't considering. 0:09:50.760 --> 0:09:55.840 I'm not entirely sure what they would say was the 0:09:55.960 --> 0:09:59.800 law that he broke? I think obviously that would create 0:10:00.360 --> 0:10:04.680 a pretty serious firestorm in the United States to see 0:10:04.720 --> 0:10:09.080 an elected leader of an opposition party, governor of another 0:10:09.160 --> 0:10:14.160 state be arrested by the president because he has criticized 0:10:14.200 --> 0:10:19.319 the president, or because he has resisted certain policies of 0:10:19.360 --> 0:10:20.040 the White House. 0:10:20.760 --> 0:10:24.160 Okay, so in the meantime, then what powers does Governor 0:10:24.200 --> 0:10:27.600 Newsoon have to stop what's happening? Can he, for instance, 0:10:27.640 --> 0:10:29.400 tell the National Guard to stand down? 0:10:29.720 --> 0:10:32.280 He certainly can tell the National Guard to stand down. 0:10:32.360 --> 0:10:35.480 He has said that this is a violation of state sovereignty. 0:10:35.600 --> 0:10:40.960 But as you've seen, he doesn't have the power to 0:10:41.120 --> 0:10:43.679 ensure that they listen to him. So right now, what 0:10:43.720 --> 0:10:46.920 you're really seeing is a real power struggle between you know, 0:10:46.960 --> 0:10:50.199 a state executive and the federal executive, and thus far 0:10:50.320 --> 0:10:51.559 the federal executive is winning. 0:10:55.000 --> 0:10:58.640 Coming up after the break, how Trump's deportations will reshape 0:10:58.679 --> 0:11:07.679 the US. Eric Trump is right now making good on 0:11:07.800 --> 0:11:12.280 his election promise to deport millions of undocumented migrants. He 0:11:12.679 --> 0:11:15.280 said he would do this. But do you think that 0:11:15.320 --> 0:11:18.240 the method is coming as a surprise to many people. 0:11:18.520 --> 0:11:21.120 It's coming as a surprise to some people, It's not 0:11:21.160 --> 0:11:23.560 coming as a surprise to others. I mean, Donald Trump 0:11:23.679 --> 0:11:27.320 was very clear on the campaign trail that this was 0:11:27.320 --> 0:11:31.680 something he was going to do. He was not shy 0:11:32.040 --> 0:11:36.079 about saying what methods he would use. I mean, I 0:11:36.120 --> 0:11:38.640 think one thing people were pretty surprised by was that 0:11:38.679 --> 0:11:44.160 he was willing to send Venezuelan nationals to a notorious 0:11:44.840 --> 0:11:48.280 Megaprison and l Salvador, the Terrorism Comminement Center or SEACAT. 0:11:48.640 --> 0:11:50.880 I think that really took a lot of people off guard. 0:11:51.120 --> 0:11:54.559 But the alacrity with which he has pursued deportations in 0:11:54.679 --> 0:11:58.840 which he has tried to enlist the entirety of the 0:11:58.840 --> 0:12:01.480 federal government to assist the efforts. This shouldn't come as 0:12:01.520 --> 0:12:03.920 a surprise to anybody, not anyone who's paying attention to 0:12:04.000 --> 0:12:06.160 him on the campaign Trill. 0:12:06.240 --> 0:12:08.240 And in terms of some of the scenes we're witnessing, 0:12:08.280 --> 0:12:11.920 I'm thinking in particular of journalists being shot at by 0:12:12.000 --> 0:12:15.280 US authorities. I think for a lot of people watching, 0:12:15.360 --> 0:12:20.840 it's raising questions about how far this administration is willing 0:12:20.880 --> 0:12:23.600 to go and whether this is just the beginning of 0:12:23.640 --> 0:12:27.160 the ways in which we might see democracy changed or 0:12:27.240 --> 0:12:28.920 tested over the next three years. 0:12:29.240 --> 0:12:32.120 Well, I think you know, one thing the administration has 0:12:32.160 --> 0:12:34.800 signaled from the outset is that it's willing to push 0:12:34.880 --> 0:12:38.960 the extremes in order to achieve its objectives of expelling 0:12:39.040 --> 0:12:41.920 millions of migrants from the country. And one thing they 0:12:42.000 --> 0:12:44.800 want to do is shock you and make you realize 0:12:44.840 --> 0:12:46.600 just how serious they are. And I think they also 0:12:46.720 --> 0:12:51.160 want to change the realities on the ground. They're moving 0:12:51.160 --> 0:12:54.360 at such speed right that the courts are playing catch up, 0:12:54.480 --> 0:12:58.839 that civil society is playing catch up, that migrants themselves 0:12:58.960 --> 0:13:06.000 don't know how to resist. Many are choosing to voluntarily 0:13:07.080 --> 0:13:10.240 depart from the country rather than fight their cases in court. 0:13:10.320 --> 0:13:12.200 They don't think they have a chance, and even if 0:13:12.240 --> 0:13:14.800 they did, they know they wouldn't be welcome here. I mean, 0:13:14.920 --> 0:13:21.320 I recently reported on the deportation operation from inside of 0:13:21.360 --> 0:13:24.760 one of the ICE attention centers in central Louisiana, and 0:13:24.920 --> 0:13:28.839 a recurrent theme I found when talking to the detainees 0:13:29.040 --> 0:13:31.800 was that they were resigned to their fate. They didn't 0:13:31.800 --> 0:13:36.480 feel like there was any utility in challenging their deportation order, 0:13:36.480 --> 0:13:39.200 and in fact, the warden of the prisons said fewer 0:13:39.200 --> 0:13:42.720 and fewer of the detainees are fighting their cases because 0:13:42.760 --> 0:13:44.760 they just don't think it's worth it. And so you're 0:13:44.800 --> 0:13:49.240 seeing the ripple effects play out across society where the 0:13:49.280 --> 0:13:52.680 United States has become this vegan for migration and for 0:13:52.720 --> 0:13:56.800 people seeking refuge for violence and oppression. The Trump administration 0:13:57.559 --> 0:14:00.920 is basically trying to reverse what has been decades long 0:14:01.080 --> 0:14:05.240 trend that has, you know, over time, remade the country 0:14:05.640 --> 0:14:07.439 demographically and socially. 0:14:09.280 --> 0:14:14.160 Yeah. How fundamentally does this change the country if millions 0:14:14.200 --> 0:14:15.600 of migrants are deported. 0:14:16.200 --> 0:14:18.559 Yeah, And I think, you know, for one, their economic 0:14:18.600 --> 0:14:21.640 impacts obviously, you know, we would lose a major source 0:14:21.800 --> 0:14:24.720 of labor, particularly you know, low wage labor. 0:14:25.360 --> 0:14:26.120 When you lose that. 0:14:26.120 --> 0:14:29.080 Labor, obviously, the risk that economists are pointing out is 0:14:29.080 --> 0:14:32.000 that it could lead to higher prices because you won't 0:14:32.040 --> 0:14:35.520 have these low skilled, lowage workers who are performing jobs 0:14:35.560 --> 0:14:39.040 that most Americans don't want to perform, and that those 0:14:39.080 --> 0:14:42.240 are also a very important base of employees that make 0:14:42.280 --> 0:14:45.440 it possible for people in higher local positions to have 0:14:45.520 --> 0:14:49.120 those jobs at companies throughout the country. The other thing 0:14:49.240 --> 0:14:52.640 is that it's sort of taking away from the sort 0:14:52.640 --> 0:14:55.960 of traditional American notion that everybody here has a hyphen 0:14:56.400 --> 0:14:59.560 in a way, right, you're Italian Americans, You're African American, 0:15:00.000 --> 0:15:04.280 Wish americanas or Chinese American Bright. But what you're seeing 0:15:04.400 --> 0:15:08.120 is a sort of nationalist event on immigrated tramps, a 0:15:08.240 --> 0:15:13.280 populist event where you know, America as a nation is 0:15:13.600 --> 0:15:17.160 geared from a policy perspective, as directed by the libraries 0:15:17.200 --> 0:15:22.280 of the Trump administration, toward people who are indigenous in 0:15:22.320 --> 0:15:27.120 some form of fashion, maybe more modernly indigenous to this soil. 0:15:29.120 --> 0:15:31.560 Eric, thank you so much for your time. Thank you. 0:15:41.760 --> 0:15:44.960 Also in the news today, Prime Minister Anthony Alberesi has 0:15:45.000 --> 0:15:48.320 described the footage of Nine correspondent Lauren to Massey being 0:15:48.320 --> 0:15:50.960 shot by a rubber bullet live on air as horrific. 0:15:51.440 --> 0:15:54.600 Albanesi said he has expressed his concern to the US government. 0:15:55.000 --> 0:15:58.480 The Media Union has also condemned the shooting, and a 0:15:58.560 --> 0:16:01.760 second fungled embryo implant at mornash IVF has sparked a 0:16:01.760 --> 0:16:05.960 new investigation. Mornash IVF yesterday revealed that a patient's own 0:16:05.960 --> 0:16:10.160 embryo was transferred instead of that patient's partner's embryo. It 0:16:10.240 --> 0:16:12.720 comes two months after the company revealed that a different 0:16:12.760 --> 0:16:16.240 patient had an embryo incorrectly transferred to her, meaning that 0:16:16.280 --> 0:16:18.720 she gave birth to the child of an unrelated woman. 0:16:19.520 --> 0:16:21.920 I'm Ruby Jones. This is seven am. See you tomorrow.