1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: Hi guys, Happy Tuesday. Welcome back to hotter than yesterday. 2 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: We have a really special guess. 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 2: Her name is Mimi. 4 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:10,400 Speaker 3: Welcome, Thank you, thanks so much for having me. 5 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: So Mimi is actually a somatic trauma healer. 6 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 2: Is that how you say it? 7 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:20,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you can say that. Okay, I'm like facilitator all. 8 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 2: Of the Okay, but yeah, you're just like an angel. 9 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 3: Okay, I'm an angel. I mean that's like a pretty 10 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 3: like if. 11 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: If you could compare it to something, what would you 12 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 1: like to compare it? 13 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 4: I would say like, I'm a facilitator for like, I'm 14 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 4: like a tuning fork, I guess because I don't think 15 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 4: also being a healer, like you're not really I'm not 16 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 4: like some magical being that is healing another person, like 17 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:44,919 Speaker 4: I create the space so they can heal themselves. Oh 18 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:48,560 Speaker 4: is it like culty Like I'm like this, Yeah, yeah, 19 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 4: you know, because I think that's where it gets. 20 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 3: A little little juju, a little crazy. 21 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:52,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 22 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, so I'm like, yeah, I facilitate the healing, but 23 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 4: essentially like other people heal themselves. 24 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: Oh okay, yeah, maybe I'll get here today. So even 25 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: I don't really know what this all is, I find 26 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 1: it really really interesting. So can you explain what is 27 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:12,040 Speaker 1: somatic trauma healing in simple terms? 28 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:13,680 Speaker 3: In simple terms, let's break it down. 29 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 4: Okay, So sematic essentially means like your body, So soma 30 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 4: relates to your body. So sematics it relates completely to 31 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 4: everything within your body. 32 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 3: It's a really trending term right now. 33 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 4: So people can kind of get a little confused, Like 34 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 4: you might see sematics it might be like people jumping 35 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 4: on a trampoline or just like movement, and like might 36 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 4: have things store within like your hips or right you know, 37 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 4: So anything sematic is to do with the body. 38 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 3: But when we relate it to. 39 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 4: Trauma healing, it's essentially your trauma is store within like 40 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 4: your cells and your muscles and your tissue and your 41 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 4: fashi up within your body. And so when you've experienced 42 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 4: a lot of trauma or even a small amount of trauma, 43 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 4: it essentially gets like stuck in these energies in your cells, 44 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 4: and then it gets stagnant, like especially low vibrational energy 45 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 4: like grief or anxiety, stress, all these things. It creates 46 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 4: tension and energy blockages, and so that's where you may 47 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 4: feel like tense, tight shoulders or like in any part 48 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 4: of your body could be like digestive issues, anything like 49 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 4: health related. A lot of the time it's related back 50 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 4: to an emotional blockage. 51 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 3: Or a trauma from that time. 52 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 4: And so when we work with somatic trauma healing and 53 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 4: essentially creates like an energy field, what I work with 54 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 4: is like an energy healing modality, which is I use 55 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 4: the energy of kundalini, and so that energy is within 56 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 4: like every single person, every single being, and we do 57 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 4: Kundlini activations, and so essentially what that is is like 58 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 4: kundolini is seen as a serpent that it coils at 59 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:41,919 Speaker 4: the base of your spine. That's like the energetic symbolism 60 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 4: of what it is, especially in like ancient references in 61 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 4: ancient texts. So when you're in an activation, the Kundalini 62 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 4: can be activated, not always awakened, because the kunderline active 63 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 4: awakening is a different thing, but it's activated, and then 64 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 4: the energy. 65 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 3: Moves through your body. Yeah. 66 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 4: And so then because I'm creating such a high energy field, 67 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 4: then your body like low vibrational energy is like stress 68 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 4: and trauma respond to the high frequency and then essentially 69 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:12,959 Speaker 4: get like massaged out. It's almost like an energy exercise. 70 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 3: And so what can happen through that is. 71 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 4: That you can release trauma, but it can happen through 72 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 4: something called careers, which could be like physical movements or manifestations. 73 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 4: So sometimes online you'll see videos of people like shaking 74 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 4: and crying. 75 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 3: Yes, they're called careers. 76 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 2: And there's the energy the trauma. 77 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 4: Is moving like it looks intense, but it's actually like 78 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 4: really primal and really normal and like more related to backs. 79 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 4: If you see like animals in the wild, they'll just 80 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 4: like shake off trauma that happens to them. So, like 81 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 4: to be honest, when the first time it happened to me, 82 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 4: it was like what is going on? 83 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 3: Like I was really confused? 84 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 2: Yes, can you control it? Or not? 85 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 4: Really not really interesting, which is a little interesting sign. 86 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 4: You know, it's pretty crazy. So you're like there and 87 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 4: you can you're conscious of it because you can feel 88 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 4: it happening. Yes, But the facilitator or like myself, will 89 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 4: work through different accive pressure points and your different energy channels. 90 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 4: So you have like a chakra system that works there's 91 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 4: like seven yeah, but starts the base of your spine 92 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 4: and then goes to like your crown and so more 93 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 4: like survival base emotions live within your like base chakra system, 94 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 4: so your root chakra and then your solar plexus and 95 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 4: all of that all the way up. And so when 96 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:27,039 Speaker 4: you first do a lot of the work, it can 97 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 4: situate itself in the survival energy centers. 98 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 3: Yes, which is where a lot of like grief, like. 99 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 4: Endometerosis, all these different like emotions get stored right, And 100 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 4: the more you do the work, it like moves up 101 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 4: your body es central. 102 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 2: So it's not like a one time thing. 103 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 3: You need to do it over. 104 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, Like you can't do it once and you might 105 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 4: have like a revelation Like the first time I did 106 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 4: it was like crazy. 107 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 3: But everyone's so different. 108 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 1: Yes, because I go and the type of therapy I 109 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:58,280 Speaker 1: kind of do is kinesiology, and I feel like it's 110 00:04:58,360 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 1: kind of. 111 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:00,159 Speaker 2: The same thing as what you're saying. 112 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: It's like she always like measures, taps my bones and 113 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:06,159 Speaker 1: stuff like that, and like if she'll say something like 114 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: maybe an affirmation and she'll be like say I'm beautiful, 115 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 1: and I'll be like I'm beautiful. 116 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 2: Because you're lying. 117 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, okay, yeah I am lying, but 118 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: like she was like, you're lying because like your body 119 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: fully rejected it. And I love that yeah, yeah, and 120 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: she always says that I hold stuff at the bottom 121 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: of my spine, and she's like, because I always have 122 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:28,840 Speaker 1: back pain and because you're always holding it in. 123 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 2: Your spine whereabouts at the bottom of my spine. 124 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, that's very like. 125 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:37,719 Speaker 4: Root survival like and like like and like hips as well. 126 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, have you seen the tiktoks. 127 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if you're on TikTok And it's like 128 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 1: you hold trauma in your spine and yeah. 129 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 4: Well yeah, I mean you do hold a lot of 130 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 4: trauma in your hands. But yeah, it's similar to kinesiology, 131 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 4: okay in a sense, like I've had kinesiology before and 132 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 4: like crazyinesiology, but it's a little different, like I can't 133 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 4: I'm not really like listening to your body and like 134 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 4: you're completely rejecting it all intuitively feel what someone else 135 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 4: is feeling, or I'll be intuitively pulled to certain parts 136 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 4: of their body. 137 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 3: So like a lot of the time. 138 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,280 Speaker 4: Your like solar plexus is like the gate of opening, 139 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 4: so that is where like a lot of you can 140 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 4: put a lot of fire into there, and so that's 141 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 4: like our first initial place that we go to, so 142 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 4: that will like open that particular gate and the particular 143 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 4: active pressure points, like say just above your collar bone 144 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 4: is where grief is stored, and so might I might 145 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 4: feel in myself like a pool to go there, or 146 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,479 Speaker 4: like a my shoulders will go forward and I'll feel 147 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 4: like I want to go towards that part. So it's 148 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 4: really interesting that like mirrors because your energy fields are 149 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 4: like mirroring the person that you're working with. 150 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 3: Wow, that's really cool. 151 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 2: That's really cool. 152 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: So how did you first get into this space? So 153 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 1: I feel like it's quite a niche. Yeah, so not 154 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 1: many people know about it. How did you first like 155 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: discover it? And what made you kind of want to 156 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: tap into this? 157 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 3: Well? 158 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 4: I mean I have my own podcast and so originally 159 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 4: the way that I found this work was I had 160 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:01,119 Speaker 4: my friend now my name back Jack. She came onto 161 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 4: my podcast because essentially in twenty twenty, my mom passed 162 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 4: away and that was when that was like the beginning 163 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 4: of my spiritual awakening. That was like when my whole 164 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 4: life kind of just changed in front of me and 165 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 4: I was like, what is going on? 166 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 3: Like it was just it was crazy. 167 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 4: So I was just trying to adjust with how to 168 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 4: actually like deal with life, not even with the grief, Like, yeah, 169 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 4: that was intense, but more just like awakening spiritually is 170 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:26,559 Speaker 4: so intense because you have all these signs and different 171 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 4: things coming at you and you're just trying to figure 172 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 4: out why it's happening. And so I got really into 173 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 4: meditation and really into hypnosis because it was the only 174 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:37,679 Speaker 4: way that I found I could like access deeper parts 175 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 4: of like my soul and connect with my intuition and 176 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 4: also like connect with like my love, my loved one 177 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 4: and Mum in spirit. 178 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 3: Anyway, so then. 179 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 4: I decided to start a podcast talking about the dysfunctional 180 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 4: families and my upbringing and grief all of the above. Anyway, 181 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 4: I had my friend Rebecca on, and she had started 182 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 4: doing this work because of her brother had unfortunately like 183 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 4: committed suicide, and this was really helpful to her for 184 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 4: her to understand how trauma is stored within the body, 185 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 4: and because his was to do with back pain and 186 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 4: using antibiotics, and so for me, I met her when 187 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 4: she came on the podcast and she was telling her 188 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 4: story and then I. 189 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 3: Was like just obsessed with it. 190 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 4: I was like, this is so interesting, like I've never 191 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 4: heard of anything like this before. And then just a 192 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 4: weird synchronistic moment. Like a year later, I moved to 193 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 4: Bali with my friends, like randomly, of course, I just 194 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 4: it was like COVID and I was like, I'm over 195 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 4: this like lockdowns, like we're moving to Bali anyway, And 196 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 4: so I moved to Bali and she was actually building 197 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:42,199 Speaker 4: a retreat center there, but we hadn't actually met in person, 198 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 4: so she was building this a treet center in all 199 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 4: the wah too anyway, So we kept on running into 200 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 4: each other and she. 201 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:47,959 Speaker 3: Was like, yeah, you need to come to a session. 202 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, like I need to go. 203 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,839 Speaker 4: And then eventually I just one day was like, Okay, 204 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 4: I'm going to one of these sessions, and I booked 205 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 4: one for like the next week. And I swear like 206 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 4: up until that point, like in the days leading up 207 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 4: to it, like my energy just started to shift. 208 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 3: Like I had a headache. 209 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 4: Like right here in my third eye between my eyebrows 210 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:09,680 Speaker 4: for like two days beforehand, and I was like, what 211 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 4: is going on? 212 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 3: Like this is so crazy. 213 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 1: And at that time of your life, obviously with your 214 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: mum passing and everything like that, do you think that 215 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:19,559 Speaker 1: you're pushing a lot of the grief like aside and 216 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 1: distracting yourself and like you're kind of coming to like 217 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: a close where you're like I can't keep on going 218 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 1: like this anymore. 219 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred percent. 220 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 4: Like I mean I definitely have a tendency not as 221 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 4: much now, but I would like just dissociate, yeah, and 222 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 4: like can't just be like everything's fine, Yeah, I'm all good, Yeah, 223 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 4: Like I don't need to deal with this. And I 224 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 4: got a lot of back pain, like especially behind like 225 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 4: my center back, like behind my heart, which is where 226 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 4: like a lot of grief is stored. Like it was 227 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 4: just like I kept on getting massaged just when I 228 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 4: was in Melbourne because I was like, why is this 229 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 4: back pain like so intense? 230 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. 231 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 4: And then even the day before I moved to Bali, 232 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,319 Speaker 4: I've never had a panic attack before, and I had 233 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 4: like I was moving on stuff out of my house 234 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 4: and I had just like a full on panic attack, 235 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:05,319 Speaker 4: like lying on my ground of my bedroom just being 236 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 4: like what is going on? So it just shows like 237 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 4: even if you think that you're fine. And I was 238 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:12,439 Speaker 4: somewhat dealing with it through like meditating and all of 239 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 4: this stuff, but I wasn't fully dealing with like the 240 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 4: root cause and my body was showing me that through 241 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:21,319 Speaker 4: like the physical manifestations of it, and so I did 242 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 4: go to Bali, being like I need to be in 243 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 4: nature and heal. 244 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 3: But it definitely was a bit like running away a 245 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:26,679 Speaker 3: little bit for sure. 246 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 4: But it worked out because I found when like look 247 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 4: in hindsight, it made sense because if I didn't. 248 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 3: Go, then I wouldn't have had that experience. Then I 249 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 3: wouldn't be where I am now. 250 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:38,679 Speaker 4: So anyway, I went into this session and I just 251 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 4: as soon as I lied back down on the mat, 252 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 4: like my whole head started shaking like crazily and I 253 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 4: saw sounds like so cliche, but I saw I was. 254 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 2: Like, I believe me when I say this, I know 255 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 2: a sec. 256 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 4: I saw like this, like white light come into like 257 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 4: my third eye, and I saw like my grandpa that 258 00:10:57,679 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 4: I'd never met before. 259 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 3: It was really random. It came into my vision and 260 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 3: he was like just there. I don't even know what 261 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 3: he was saying, but he was just there. 262 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 4: And then I had a lot of throat stagnancy, so 263 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 4: I like had the urge to scream, which can happen 264 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 4: which can take a lot of people a lot of 265 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 4: time to do it. I apparently just didn't care, and 266 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 4: I was just screaming straight away anyway, so in. 267 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:21,679 Speaker 2: Like fuck, no one knows whoere the fuck I am. 268 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 3: For real, I was like, I actually don't care. 269 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 4: So I'm in this room with like thirty people and 270 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 4: I was just like screaming and it was like crazy, but. 271 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 3: It felt really good. 272 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 4: Like I didn't really know what was going on or 273 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 4: why I was but it felt like really therapeutic, and 274 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 4: like afterwards I felt so much more relaxed. But I 275 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 4: was so tired afterwards, Like I just sleeped like two 276 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 4: days and couldn't. 277 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 2: Probably so emotionally drained. 278 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, and your body just moves so much energy, especially 279 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 4: at the first time you do it, if it's that intense. 280 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. 281 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 4: So yeah, that was like my intro into it. But 282 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 4: then I did like maybe five more sessions over the 283 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 4: course of like four months, and I just like got obsessed. 284 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 4: Like I loved it so much. It just made me 285 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 4: feel so much better. Like even like music started sounding different, 286 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 4: Like it's kind of intense when you're in it a 287 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:10,959 Speaker 4: little bit, but then when you're out of it, like 288 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 4: you released these low vibrational energies and then you just 289 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 4: feel amazing. Yeah, Like I just had these like synchronistic 290 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:20,079 Speaker 4: things happening all the time, and I just felt like 291 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 4: my actual authentic self came to the surface and like 292 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 4: things just started changing. 293 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 3: So wow, it was really interesting. 294 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 4: And then I decided to stop drinking from doing that, 295 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 4: which was like on Year's Eve that year, So then 296 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 4: I didn't drink for like two and a half years. Wow, 297 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 4: and everything, yeah, just sort of shifted around me. 298 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 3: And then I was. 299 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:40,719 Speaker 4: Doing actually I was working for her, like doing a 300 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 4: social media and she was like, you should train in 301 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 4: it because you're like really sensitive to the energy. So 302 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 4: I didn't really like go after it, like I'd never 303 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 4: picture myself as someone doing this at all. 304 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 2: Like I kind of just came to you. 305 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, like I really didn't think i'd be doing something 306 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 4: like this, but I'm so grateful. 307 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 3: That I did. 308 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 4: But yeah, I was like okay, So I did it, 309 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 4: and then worked with her while she was building the 310 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:05,319 Speaker 4: retreat center. And then last year I went and did 311 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 4: the physical part of the training, which is like like 312 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:12,080 Speaker 4: four days where you're like in the intensive container of doing, 313 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 4: like you do so many activations and in those four 314 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 4: days and then you work on other people and you 315 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 4: get initiated into the energy. 316 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 2: Right, but that and what does that look like? How 317 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 2: do you know that? Could anyone do it? Or do 318 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 2: you kind of have well yeah. 319 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:25,959 Speaker 3: Not like do you know how they say. 320 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 1: Like sidekicks like you need to have do you kind 321 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 1: of need to have an eye for it? 322 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 2: Or well? 323 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 4: I think it's the embodiment. So I mean that I 324 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 4: like jumped straight through that. But like it was like 325 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 4: two years in between me going and doing the like 326 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 4: physical training, so there was all also like the online part, 327 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 4: which is learning about like the neuroscience and epigenetics and 328 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 4: understanding how trauma actually lives within. 329 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 3: Your bodies, like the theory aspect of it. 330 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, and then you also have to do the session. 331 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 4: So I just was doing them like back to back, 332 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 4: like I was overseas. I was like in Europe and 333 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 4: America and you can do them online and I was 334 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 4: just doing them online like all the time, and I 335 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 4: just was like obsessed. And then to do the training, 336 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 4: I think you have to do ten sessions, but I 337 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 4: would have done like two hundred because I was literally 338 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 4: just like, yeah, I feel so good from this, and 339 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 4: I was getting like downloads and ideas and so yeah, 340 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 4: I'd like done as many sessions as I needed to, 341 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 4: and then when you're in the initiation. 342 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 3: It's really crazy. Like I was like, how's this going 343 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 3: to work? 344 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 2: Like yeah, I suddenly just qualified and doing it. 345 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 1: I know. 346 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 4: I was really I was really confused. I was like, 347 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 4: how how is this just going to work? 348 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 3: And it just does? 349 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, because I'm so confused by it. 350 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: Like I'm I wouldn't say I'm a spiritual person, like 351 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 1: I'm quite logical, but I love this type of stuff, 352 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: Like I love hearing about it, and I find it 353 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: really interesting about like how people came overcame stuff like that, 354 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 1: because I'm like all for therapy and stuff like that. 355 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: But I I'm like, yeah, you need to go to therapy, 356 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 1: but when it comes to me, I'm like it doesn't 357 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: work real. So then I'm like I always tried it. 358 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 1: I'm like I need to be more open minded to 359 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: stuff like this because I really struggled to speak about 360 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 1: my feeling and like everyone's like, oh, well, how does 361 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 1: it make you feel when you went through as a child, 362 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 1: Like we speak about it, and I'm like, there's no 363 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 1: words that actually come out, but I know I store 364 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: a lot of shit in my body. 365 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I'm always in pain. 366 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: I'm always like really uptight and stuff like that, and 367 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 1: like I have the worst gut issues, like I know 368 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 1: I need to let it out, but then when I 369 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: go to speak about it, no words come. 370 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 4: No, that's normal, But how do you find what's that 371 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 4: like in therapy? Like do you find that you can 372 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 4: talk about your stuff? No? 373 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 3: Therapy? 374 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 2: Right, nothing nothing comes out right. I'm like, I'm fine, 375 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 2: Like what do you mean? 376 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 1: And then I will then leave the therapy session and 377 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: I'm like, you're not fine. 378 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, sorry, That's why I go. 379 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 1: To kidney theology because she just like can then I'm 380 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: just like get in my brain, read my brain, and 381 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: then regurgitate it to me because I don't even know how. 382 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 2: To alliterate how I'm feeling. But it's not good feelings. 383 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, no, God, that sounds so depressing. I'm fine, 384 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 2: do you know what I mean? 385 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 3: Completely? 386 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 4: No. 387 00:15:57,360 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 3: I relate to that so much. 388 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 4: Like I couldn't talk about anything, yeah, like till till 389 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 4: my mom died. Like I didn't speak about anything, Like 390 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 4: I literally was like anything to do with my life, 391 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 4: in my situation anything. I was like, yeah, that's not real, 392 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 4: that's not going on. I'm fine and what it is 393 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 4: is because your throat a lot of the time is closed, 394 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 4: like the energy within your throat is like imploded. So yeah, 395 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 4: you don't feel safe to speak about those things. Yeah, 396 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 4: and so I couldn't talk about it until I did somatics, 397 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 4: and I was actually ate, like properly talk about it 398 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 4: because I could move the energy and the energy would 399 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 4: just release, and so naturally I was more able to 400 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 4: just speak about the things because it wasn't holding onto 401 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 4: all of that stored energy, like yeah, it's real, like. 402 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 2: It's crazy, because I just make jokes out of it. 403 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 3: No, the same. That's how that's. 404 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 2: Probably almost like my screen for help. I'll be like, yeah, 405 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 2: fucked up or like something like that, or I'll make a. 406 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 1: Joke about like my past and everything like that, and. 407 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 2: Then everyone in the room's kind. 408 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 3: Of like, oh, yeah, yeah, we. 409 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 2: Laughed, and it's like no, no, please laugh. 410 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 3: No. 411 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 4: Definitely, I'm the same, understand And I think I had 412 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 4: to get more used to it being something that doesn't 413 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 4: have to be like you can still like laugh about it. 414 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 4: I think like I I make dead mum jokes all 415 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 4: the time because it's hilarious, Like it's it's hilarious but 416 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 4: it's like when something is so traumatic, like sometimes the 417 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 4: only thing you can do is like laugh, like it's 418 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 4: just really intense. And I don't think also there's that's 419 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:19,160 Speaker 4: like something that wrong with that, Yeah, you know, because 420 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 4: I think it's if you're not dealing with your trauma, 421 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 4: like that's something else. But if you can have like 422 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 4: resolution about it and laugh about it in the same sense, 423 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 4: like I don't think. I think also humans really healing, yeah, 424 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 4: like really healing in when it's done in like a 425 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 4: positive way and you've done the healing alongside of it, 426 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 4: Like it's where you can have like the joy come 427 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:40,879 Speaker 4: from the trauma. 428 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 3: I find. 429 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, So when you have then started getting into all 430 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: of this and now you have a practice where you 431 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 1: practice on people, is that right? How what does that 432 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 1: look like? And how do people kind of get in 433 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 1: touch with you? And then what how is what's the 434 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:58,919 Speaker 1: steps YEA in trying to like open what is. 435 00:17:59,080 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 2: Called your. 436 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 4: CDINI, but it's you're also just also think of it 437 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 4: as like your primal life force energy, So it's essentially 438 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:10,880 Speaker 4: your energy at like one hundred percent. OK, So it's 439 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 4: not like anything outside of you. It's just like a 440 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 4: symbol for your energy. So it's like if you could 441 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 4: just turn the dial up on everything that's authentic to 442 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:20,399 Speaker 4: you before, all the trauma that happened to you before 443 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:22,640 Speaker 4: you were born, all of these things. 444 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 3: Your like soul's essence. 445 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 4: It's essentially just like awakening and turning the volume on 446 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 4: that up. But how does it work? So it's done 447 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 4: either in groups or one on one, and you can 448 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:35,159 Speaker 4: do it online or in person. People are always like, 449 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:37,679 Speaker 4: how do you do it online? Like that's insane, but 450 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 4: you can. But in person group sessions it looks like 451 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:44,160 Speaker 4: almost like a yoga class. So it's like you come, 452 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 4: there's like an intentional talk through about like I talk 453 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 4: about what we actually do in the session and what 454 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 4: you might experience, and like I set like a very 455 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 4: like sacred container, so it's like very safe. We do 456 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:57,160 Speaker 4: some breath work to start the session, but that's essentially 457 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 4: just to get you like out of your mind and 458 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:01,919 Speaker 4: into your body. Because breath work is breath works like 459 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 4: the step before this, so that obviously breath works really 460 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:06,919 Speaker 4: popular right now, but this is almost like the next step. 461 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 4: So the breathwork like activates your like calming and regulating hormones, 462 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 4: and then it relieves like any stress or quarters all 463 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 4: that you like live within your stomach, so it's a 464 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:19,719 Speaker 4: particular like conscious connected breath. 465 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 3: And then from that you essentially lie back. 466 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:24,399 Speaker 4: Down and like you don't really have to do anything 467 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:27,239 Speaker 4: because I create the vortext within the room because I'm 468 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:30,119 Speaker 4: like a tuning fork, which essentially is like I have 469 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 4: a particular frequency, and then that brings the other frequencies 470 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 4: into harmony. And so your body has a particular frequency 471 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 4: and then mine because of like the embodiment of the 472 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 4: work that I've done with the qundolini, it then like 473 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 4: matches it and raises up to that particular frequency. 474 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 3: That's essentially why I don't have to do anything. 475 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 4: So you lie back down and you receive the energy, 476 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 4: which is feels a little strange because you don't literally 477 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:56,719 Speaker 4: have to say anything or do anything. But there's music 478 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 4: going the whole time, and the music guides you as well, 479 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:02,159 Speaker 4: because it's like can be kind of intense or like 480 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 4: tribal or like linked like visualization, so it goes in 481 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 4: like a crescendo, so it'll get more intense and then 482 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 4: it will like slow back down, and so a really 483 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 4: good way when you're doing it is you just like 484 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 4: allow the music to take you, because you might like 485 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 4: see particular things and it might be like, oh you 486 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 4: might it might also particular like movement within your body 487 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 4: depending on the music that you're listening to. But the 488 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 4: biggest challenge for people is like surrendering and like allowing 489 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 4: just the energy to come in because it is so 490 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 4: different to how we see ourselves and like in society. 491 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 4: So yeah, it can be really strange to accept that 492 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 4: that's something that's going to happen and allow and like, 493 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 4: it doesn't work as well if you don't surrender, like 494 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 4: it's because there's going to be resistance and then you're 495 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 4: going to create that resistance and you're going to feel resistance. 496 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 4: So a lot of the time people like will have 497 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,119 Speaker 4: certain emotions come up, and it could be like anger 498 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:59,159 Speaker 4: or stress or trauma, or say an emotion like frustration, 499 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 4: which is really interesting because like you'll be sitting in 500 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 4: the session, you might feel really frustrated and you might 501 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 4: be like, oh fuck, there's like why I'm in stupid session? 502 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 3: Like what am I doing? It's not work, it's not working? 503 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 3: Why is she here? Like she's so stupid? Like this 504 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 3: is so dumb. 505 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 4: But really like you're feeling frustration, so the frustration can 506 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,120 Speaker 4: leave your body, you know, like you. 507 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 2: Have to start it up, honestly, you know. 508 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 3: I mean, it's amazing, it's so good. 509 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 2: D Cup, I am coming. I'm like, should we do 510 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 2: it hotter than yesterday trial session? 511 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 1: But then I'm like, they're going to these girls to 512 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:33,160 Speaker 1: fucking know when I'm started yelling at them, film like it's. 513 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 3: A safe space. 514 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 4: But yeah, So you receive the energy, you'll feel certain 515 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 4: emotions come up. Your body may move, it may not move. 516 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 4: The moving does not equate to it being better or worse, 517 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 4: like it doesn't equal anything. It just is there or 518 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,120 Speaker 4: it's not there, Like it really doesn't matter. You still 519 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 4: feel the energy and receive the energy at one hundred 520 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 4: percent regardless, Like some people leave and they're just like 521 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 4: lying flat there. But then also in the days after 522 00:21:57,560 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 4: they may have emotions come up because the energy is 523 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:02,199 Speaker 4: still in your body for like a week afterwards and 524 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 4: make me like seventy two hours, especially like in the 525 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 4: first few times that you do it, and so you're 526 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,159 Speaker 4: lie back, you may have visualizations. You may get cold 527 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:12,959 Speaker 4: or hot. That happens a lot as well. Like for me, 528 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 4: I used to have like coriasis. I mean, I still 529 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 4: get it like a tiny bit, but I got it 530 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 4: when it was like really stressful traumatic time at home. 531 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 4: And essentially crisis is like an autoimmune disease that is 532 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 4: like it's like heat within your body that your body's 533 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:29,359 Speaker 4: like fighting something that it like feels like there's anger 534 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 4: and trauma sitting within your body. And so I would 535 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 4: like sweat so much because it was like clearing so 536 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 4: much of this anger and then just naturally throughout it, 537 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 4: I just had like all of the crisis just heal 538 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 4: and like go away, so which I didn't even realize 539 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 4: until like, I don't know, I just realized one day. 540 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 3: I was like, oh, it's gone. I just don't have 541 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 3: crisis is gone. 542 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 2: Wow. 543 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. 544 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 1: And then so do people do after the sessions and everything. 545 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 1: Do you because you're relief seeing trauma and you're releasing 546 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:03,359 Speaker 1: this energy, is it negative energy? 547 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 2: Would you say? 548 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 3: Yeah? 549 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 4: Like I would, I mean I wouldn't say it wouldn't 550 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 4: be like it's like bad energy. I would just say 551 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 4: that it's like more lower vibrational energy, right, it's like 552 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:13,640 Speaker 4: not serving you anymore. 553 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: Right, So then would you say that the kind of 554 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 1: like clears your mind to then think more positively and 555 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 1: be more optimistic and stuff like that. 556 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, because you're like. 557 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 1: Subconsciously healing trauma and stuff that your body is holding onto. 558 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, it creates more space so that that like your 559 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:32,199 Speaker 4: energy naturally raises and you're frequency naturally raises, so you 560 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:35,360 Speaker 4: just naturally feel much better and more clarity and honestly 561 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:36,360 Speaker 4: just more like yourself. 562 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:36,880 Speaker 2: Right. 563 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,119 Speaker 1: And then then does that like then make your mind 564 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 1: more be more like more open to speaking about things 565 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 1: or do you just like forget the trauma. 566 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:45,919 Speaker 4: No, you definitely become more open to speaking about it. Right, 567 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 4: It's like obviously everyone's different. Like from my own experience, 568 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 4: I felt more open to speaking about things, and it 569 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 4: also just had a lot more clarity about why certain 570 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 4: things happen. Like I do hypnosis as well, and like 571 00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:59,919 Speaker 4: meditation as well, because I find that really helps like 572 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 4: connect with certain past versions of myself and like. 573 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 2: Or you can hypnotize yourself. 574 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,679 Speaker 4: Well, I do like self hypnosis, which is like I 575 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 4: do like guided hypnosis sessions, which is actually like, yeah, 576 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:12,919 Speaker 4: there's this really. 577 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 3: Good thing called called to be magnetic. 578 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 4: I know, I like talking about myself, but like I 579 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:18,919 Speaker 4: literally tell everyone to do this because it is like 580 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 4: I'm obsessed with it. 581 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, So it's manifestation. It's based in manifestation when. 582 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,360 Speaker 4: It's like in neural reprogramming and like hypnosis to help 583 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 4: you like manifest the life that you want. So it's 584 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 4: not just like visualized like vision board. Yeah, it's based 585 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,239 Speaker 4: in la they're like literally the best, and so you 586 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 4: do like guided hypnosis sessions like within yourself, like at home, 587 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 4: and then they'll give you like journal prompts so like 588 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,159 Speaker 4: because when you're like in a hypnotic state, that's when 589 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 4: your subconscious comes forth and then you can journal from 590 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,120 Speaker 4: that place. So through that, I've had like a lot 591 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 4: of memories come up that were like suppressed or where 592 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 4: I'd like really didn't know why I had a belief 593 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 4: and why that belief had formed and where with like 594 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 4: the root cause of that belief. And when you know 595 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 4: where the memory has come from, when you can like 596 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:04,120 Speaker 4: reprogram it and create like a new neural pathway, which 597 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:07,440 Speaker 4: is really interesting because then you change the memory associated 598 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 4: with the belief. So say if you have a memory 599 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 4: of someone being like you're unlovable or something, and so 600 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 4: you might not consciously know where that sits, but if 601 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 4: you go back, this can happen also like in somatics. 602 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:18,880 Speaker 3: Like it can come up. 603 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,160 Speaker 4: You go back, and you go back towards like the memory, 604 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 4: and it will take you to like that place. A 605 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 4: lot of the time it's when you're like zero to 606 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 4: seven years old, because that's when you're like subconscious is formed, 607 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 4: and so in that time it can be after but 608 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 4: in that time there'll be a memory, and you'll visualize 609 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,959 Speaker 4: the memory and go back, and then you can have 610 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 4: like a magnetic parent or someone like come and heal, 611 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:43,160 Speaker 4: or your higher self come in and like heal and 612 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 4: like change the memory for that like in a child 613 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 4: and that younger version of self. 614 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:48,120 Speaker 2: Right. 615 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 4: And then because when you're rewiring neural pathways, it's like 616 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 4: you can only override a neural pathway, like you can't 617 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 4: change a belief. You have to like override it with 618 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:01,159 Speaker 4: something different. So that's why like there'll be you may 619 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 4: hear things being like I am lovable, So then you 620 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,439 Speaker 4: have to do an affirmation within that, which you can 621 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 4: use like EMDR, which is a type of like somatic processing. 622 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:10,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, which like a lot of time does like my 623 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 2: mom did em D. 624 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:13,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, it's amazing. 625 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:16,159 Speaker 1: It's like rewiring like your original thought and like it 626 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 1: helps people with PTSD and stuff like that that you like, yeah, 627 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 1: rewires like what you actually experience kind of. 628 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,239 Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, yeah, And so like the more you do it, 629 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,360 Speaker 4: then you change the new a pathway to like it's 630 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 4: almost like a train going down like a train track. 631 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 4: You're like, oh, I could go down this I'm unlovable 632 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:33,120 Speaker 4: train track, and it's just been going on there because 633 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:34,400 Speaker 4: it's like the easiest. 634 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:35,159 Speaker 3: Route like route to go on. 635 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,399 Speaker 4: But then when you're like, hey, there's actually this like 636 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 4: new train line that's like really new and built and 637 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 4: like way better, super loving and moder great. 638 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 3: The vibes are way better. 639 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,399 Speaker 4: It's really pretty and like it's such a vibe like 640 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,399 Speaker 4: maybe let's just like divert here and it's like, Okay, 641 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 4: I'm not five years old anymore, and that like memory 642 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 4: where my mom like didn't give me attention. I felt 643 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 4: like unlovable, Like does that really. 644 00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 3: Serve me anymore? 645 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 4: Like at the age that I've at, is that who 646 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,119 Speaker 4: I am anymore? Like No, I'm I'm an adult and 647 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 4: I can take care of myself and like I can 648 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 4: love myself. So then it's like, no, I am lovable 649 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 4: and so then you shift it and then it just 650 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 4: naturally takes that route, which is like really amazing, So I. 651 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 2: Can sign me up. Lastly, how often do you do this? 652 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 3: I mean I try to it every day, right, yeah. 653 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 2: So you kind of like self hypnotize every day. 654 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's almost just like a meditation, right, and 655 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 4: you can do a different one. So they have like 656 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:25,920 Speaker 4: Unblocked in a love, Unblocked in a Child, and there's 657 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 4: like it's like workshops for like three weeks. 658 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 3: It's amazing. 659 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 2: It's really the way in La. 660 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,679 Speaker 4: Well they're based in LA, but then they have it's 661 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 4: all online, so it's called like the Pathway and then 662 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 4: you do it on there, but it's. 663 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,639 Speaker 2: The pathway, guys, write it down, keep it. 664 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,959 Speaker 4: That podcast also is really good and I would do 665 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 4: that alongside my own like somatic practice because I also 666 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 4: think like everyone has a particular like modality. 667 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 2: What does that mean? 668 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 4: It means like a like a type of healing. Yeah, 669 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 4: you know, and they could be like energy healing would 670 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 4: be a type modality, like hypnosis would be a type 671 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:56,400 Speaker 4: of modality. 672 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:58,719 Speaker 3: It's like a mode of healing. Yeah, that they like 673 00:27:58,760 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 3: feel called to. 674 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 4: And I really believe that people should go intuitively to 675 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 4: what they feel called to. Like I wouldn't say to 676 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 4: someone like just come to me, because like I want 677 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 4: like business and like how I thrive, Like that's not 678 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 4: serving you. Like if intuitively there's someone else that you 679 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 4: feel more called to, then like go to them, because 680 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,399 Speaker 4: like your energy and your soul like knows who you're 681 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 4: supposed to learn from and who you're spellsed to heal from. 682 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 4: So I think like using discernment is like the best 683 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 4: tool in terms of connecting with the intuition and knowing 684 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,640 Speaker 4: what's right, Like you know what's right and what feels right, 685 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 4: so you know, it might be kinesiology, it might be hypnosis, 686 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:37,679 Speaker 4: it might be like a combination, but it's just like 687 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 4: using your intuition to be like does this feel right 688 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 4: within my body and is it like one hundred percent yes. 689 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 2: But I also think it's like keeping an open mind to. 690 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 1: It all, Like like I always say, with like people 691 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 1: with like that struggled with addiction, Like I know I've 692 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 1: had a past with like people with my family who 693 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 1: struggled with addiction and all of those things where I 694 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 1: was like, you can't put them in rehab unless they 695 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 1: want to go to rehab, yes, And it's like with 696 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 1: the thing, it's like, Okay, you could go to a 697 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 1: somatic healing session, but it's like unless you actually want 698 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 1: to go there and have an open mind to do that. 699 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 2: Stuff, don't fucking go. Yeah. Yeah, it's like, unless you're actually. 700 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 1: Wanting to get better and get to heal the things 701 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 1: that you have in your body and in your mind, 702 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 1: don't fucking go unless you have like you're going to 703 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 1: like surrender to it. 704 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 2: And I think that. 705 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 1: That's why for so long, like I haven't gone to 706 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 1: like get help or like get to the root cause 707 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 1: of things like that, because I'm like, right now, I 708 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 1: feel like at a point of my life, it was 709 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 1: like a couple months ago, like it was serving me 710 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 1: in a way that I needed protecting, so like my 711 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 1: trauma was. But now I'm like, Okay, now I'm becoming 712 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 1: more open minded to it. So if I went like 713 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 1: six months ago, I'd be wasting money because I knew 714 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 1: that those like weird and probably not healthy coping mechanisms 715 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 1: were serving a purpose for me at that point of time. 716 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 1: Of course, so now I'm like, Okay, they're no longer 717 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 1: serving me. I'm outgrowing there but I keep on going 718 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 1: back to them because it's all I know. And it's like, yeah, 719 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 1: you're not making any good shit for yourself, Like you're 720 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 1: just like shooting yourself in the foot. So now I'm like, Okay, 721 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 1: I need to be more open to it. 722 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 4: Do you feel like now you're at a point where 723 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 4: you're like you want to like heal it like fully? 724 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 3: Yeah? 725 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:25,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because I'm like, ok, I'm twenty three, and 726 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 1: I know that's still super young, but I'm like I'm 727 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 1: holding onto stuff that happened to me when I was twelve. Yeah. 728 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 2: And it's like, if you want. 729 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 1: To move forward in your life and I continue to 730 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 1: do these things that you think that you're like made 731 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 1: for and that you're grateful for, you can't keep on 732 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 1: doing the shit that like, yeah, you've attached yourself to 733 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 1: when you're twelve. It's like, when you're going to separate 734 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 1: that stuff, when you're going to break those bad habits? Yeah, 735 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 1: And I never And I think that's why I've haven't 736 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 1: really given in a lot to it, because I haven't 737 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 1: ever been ready for it. Because I saw this thing 738 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 1: once and it said that your coping mechanisms and everything 739 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 1: you're formed from where and you're like, as you said, 740 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 1: went from your one to from age zero to seven, 741 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 1: a lot of the traumatic stuff that happened to you, 742 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 1: your body, your brain was too young to process the 743 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 1: actual stuff, so then you start processing it later in life. 744 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 1: And that's when people have like commitment issues and trust 745 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 1: issues and stuff like that because something happened to them 746 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 1: a super super young. 747 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 2: Age, but it's way too traumatic for the brain to process. 748 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. 749 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 1: So then that's why, like so many people when people 750 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 1: say like their twenties are like some of the hardest 751 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 1: years of their life, is because like all the stuff 752 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 1: is coming up from. 753 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 2: When you were a young kid. So now I'm like, 754 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 2: is this like what happened to me when I was younger? 755 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, And sometimes like you don't know, Like I was 756 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 4: really scared that I was going to have like suppressed 757 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 4: really crazy memories come up, and I was kind of terrified. 758 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 1: I was. And I think that that's wird because I 759 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 1: know that. I'm like, maybe it's a fear. 760 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I get that that's normal. I thought that 761 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 3: was going to happen. 762 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 4: It didn't happen, Like it can't happen to people, but 763 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 4: I think it only happens when your nervous system is 764 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 4: ready for it to happen as well. Yes, and that's 765 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 4: the same thing for anything within a session, Like your 766 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,120 Speaker 4: body's not going to shake and cry and scream if 767 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 4: your nervous system doesn't feel ready to do that. So 768 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 4: and I think trusting when the things come up and 769 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 4: when you feel like you are ready, Like it does 770 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 4: get to a point where you're like, this is actually 771 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 4: making my life so much harder, Like I'm it's coming 772 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 4: up in relationships or like I'm repeating the same patterns 773 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 4: but a lot of the time, like you're not aware 774 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 4: of it. Yeah, and then you look back and you're like, 775 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 4: what was I doing? Like why was I doing that? 776 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 4: While was I attracting that certain type of person? Why 777 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 4: was I like overgiving or like settling for less than 778 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 4: I deserve? Yes, you're like base subconscious belief feels that's 779 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 4: what you deserve. 780 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. 781 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 4: So it's only when you have separation from it that 782 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 4: you can be like, okay, now it's time. 783 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah. 784 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 2: See, like I'm like, it's going to make me sound 785 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 2: so fucked up. 786 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 1: I'm a really big avoidant, Like like you know your 787 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 1: attachment styles, I'm an avoidant attachment style. I'm very good 788 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 1: to detach from people really easy, and I don't date, 789 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 1: and I don't like put myself out there because I'm like, 790 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 1: I'm just going to avoid you. I was on FaceTime 791 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 1: with my friend the other day and I was like, 792 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 1: everyone annoys me, but I know it's coming from a 793 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 1: place of love. But I'm like when people ask to 794 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 1: like grab coffee with me, I'm like, why are you 795 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 1: fucking texting me? 796 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 2: Why do you want? Things? 797 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 1: Like my Mum's like it'd be really nice for you 798 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 1: to come over for dinner one night this week, And 799 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 1: I'm like why, And I just like avoid hard conversations 800 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 1: that I avoid awkward conversations. I just I'm like, I'd 801 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 1: rather sit in my own bubble then like get to 802 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 1: things or like speak to things or like put myself 803 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 1: out there. I'm like, you yourself, and I sam like 804 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 1: be your best friend and do your own thing. 805 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 4: Do you think that you're like an introvert? Like do 806 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 4: you like lif being alone a lot? 807 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 1: I'm like an introverted extrovert. I have a social battery, 808 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 1: and then once that social battery is drained. 809 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 2: I like like retreat. 810 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 1: Back into my own house. But I also love being 811 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 1: social Yeah, yeah, I feel you. 812 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 2: So it makes no sense. 813 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 1: And I like love when people reach out to me, 814 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 1: but like if a guy asked me on a date, 815 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 1: I'm like. 816 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 2: Fuck off. 817 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, why do you think that is? 818 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 2: I don't know. 819 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 1: And that's why it's like all of these thoughts are 820 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 1: like starting to come up, and I'm like I need 821 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 1: to find out why, because there's no like you have 822 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 1: the bestest friends, and I love my friends. I'd love 823 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,960 Speaker 1: hanging out with them, but it's like an agitating thought 824 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 1: that I have in my brain. 825 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 2: But I'm like, why do you have that? 826 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:09,239 Speaker 3: Baby? 827 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, also could be like a like a stress response 828 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,240 Speaker 4: of like like fight flight or fawn like I think. Also, 829 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,839 Speaker 4: if you're going into like being like not just leave 830 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 4: me alone, it's almost like your nervous system is like 831 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,440 Speaker 4: I'm not ready for that, Like I can't handle it. 832 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 3: I just need like my own time. 833 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 4: And maybe it is more of an invitation to be like, Okay, 834 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 4: how can I like regulate myself like in that that 835 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 4: with you, I would do like small things that you 836 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,479 Speaker 4: can do, or of anyone's feeling like that, I would 837 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,840 Speaker 4: do like a meditation or like a hypnosis, just be 838 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 4: like okay and then I would journal, Like that's just 839 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 4: an immediate thing that you could do just to be like, Okay, 840 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 4: I'm gonna like get into my subconscious like I'm feeling 841 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,359 Speaker 4: triggered for some yeason and I don't know why. 842 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:46,919 Speaker 3: I don't have to know why. 843 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 4: Also, like I think we put so much pressure on 844 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 4: ourselves to find out exactly what's why with us and 845 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:52,759 Speaker 4: like be like. 846 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:54,799 Speaker 3: Oh why did I do this? Like oh why can't 847 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:56,319 Speaker 3: I just be like being normally. I want to do 848 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 3: these things. 849 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,440 Speaker 4: And it's like we've gone through so much and like 850 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,240 Speaker 4: there's so much which like subconscious that is underneath the surface. 851 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,359 Speaker 4: It's like it's okay, like just take a second and 852 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 4: like do meditation or do a hypnosis and then come 853 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,759 Speaker 4: back to self and like journal some questions and a 854 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 4: lot of the time like you might find out why, 855 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 4: but you might also just like regulate yourself and then 856 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:16,800 Speaker 4: you can respond. 857 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, because I would say I'm quite a highly strung, 858 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 1: like naturally very stressed person, Like okay, my cortersol levels, 859 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 1: I know it through the roof, Like I can't relax, 860 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,720 Speaker 1: I can't be present, and I don't like that about myself. 861 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:31,319 Speaker 1: And that's what I was saying now is like I'm 862 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,239 Speaker 1: coming to the age where I like, I can't keep 863 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 1: suppressing it and pushing it to the side, because it's 864 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,759 Speaker 1: like I don't like the person that it makes me, 865 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 1: and then I suppress to the person it makes me. 866 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 1: But then I'm like I struggle to be present, and 867 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 1: now I recognize that it's like a circle that I'm 868 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,200 Speaker 1: just continuing to go around, and it's coming up like 869 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:52,279 Speaker 1: every three to four months, and it's like stop doing that. 870 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:53,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, right. 871 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:55,840 Speaker 4: It's like it's a like I mean there's quotes and 872 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:57,719 Speaker 4: things where it's just like the universe will like start 873 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,279 Speaker 4: whispering to you, and it all start like giving new 874 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 4: experiences where it's like, hey, like you might like want 875 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:04,759 Speaker 4: to deal with this thing or like might want to 876 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 4: deal with this part of yourself, and then like if 877 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 4: you don't listen, it'll be like kind of talk firmly 878 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:10,360 Speaker 4: to you, be like hey, like I really think you 879 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 4: should probably just maybe do like it, get some attention 880 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 4: onto this, and then it'll start screaming yeah, and it'll 881 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 4: be like, hey, like I really think it's time that 882 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 4: you deal with this through like outside events happening, and 883 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,280 Speaker 4: so really like a lot of the time, it's like okay, 884 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,360 Speaker 4: it's just trying to get your attention so that then 885 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 4: it's ready to like leave or it's ready to be 886 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,279 Speaker 4: focused on and healed so that then you can get 887 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:36,440 Speaker 4: to like the next stage and like evolution of yourself. 888 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,880 Speaker 1: And as you mentioned before, like obviously journaling and like 889 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:43,120 Speaker 1: meditating and stuff like that. When if the girls that 890 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:46,239 Speaker 1: are listening to this feel these type of emotions and 891 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:49,000 Speaker 1: stuff like that, what is something that people can do 892 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,160 Speaker 1: in their everyday life to try to regulate that and 893 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,920 Speaker 1: unlock this part brain to help them? 894 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:54,520 Speaker 3: Of course? 895 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 4: I mean yeah, I feel like meditation for me was 896 00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:59,399 Speaker 4: the one thing that I would do that is just 897 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,839 Speaker 4: like you can look it up online, like go on 898 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 4: YouTube and look up like a guided grounding meditation. Like 899 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 4: there's so many things you can do there. Hypnosis on 900 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,480 Speaker 4: like the tea to be magnetic thing, like honestly love 901 00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:12,960 Speaker 4: it so much. You can do somatic processing, like you 902 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:14,919 Speaker 4: can literally shake it out, Like if you're feeling really 903 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:18,080 Speaker 4: angry and like really intense, you can like I mean, 904 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,080 Speaker 4: it feels silly, but you can like just literally put 905 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,120 Speaker 4: on music and like shake or like sometimes I just 906 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,279 Speaker 4: scream into a pillow like full on, I'm just like, 907 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,440 Speaker 4: you know what, I'm feeling really frustrated. 908 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:27,800 Speaker 3: I'm just gonna scream into a pillow. 909 00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, Or like you can push your hands up against 910 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:33,399 Speaker 4: a wall really firmly if you're feeling anger, and that 911 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:35,600 Speaker 4: like pushes the anger out of self, so you can 912 00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,319 Speaker 4: then you like it brings back like more regulation, which 913 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 4: is really helpful. And then yeah, shaking, so you can 914 00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:44,880 Speaker 4: just lie down and like put your back on the 915 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:45,920 Speaker 4: ground and then put your feet up. 916 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,799 Speaker 3: It's called semi supine. And like I also do acting. 917 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,080 Speaker 4: We do this in acting as well, but essentially like 918 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,920 Speaker 4: allows your nervous system just like fully regulate and ground. 919 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,680 Speaker 4: There's also like these prana mats. Actually just like got 920 00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,319 Speaker 4: one recently, but it's like these active pressure. 921 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,120 Speaker 2: Mats where you lie back I've seen all. 922 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:04,440 Speaker 4: These thousands of act your pressure points and spikes in it, 923 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:06,240 Speaker 4: and you lie back on that and I do a meditation. 924 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,680 Speaker 4: I feel like a thousand times better. Like it's amazing, 925 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:13,399 Speaker 4: walking incredible. That also like regulates your nervous system because 926 00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,000 Speaker 4: you're going from like left and right. 927 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:15,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. 928 00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:19,359 Speaker 4: Grounding being in nature, like hugging a tray, like for real, 929 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,400 Speaker 4: hugging a train like actually work, like actually hugging the 930 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:26,400 Speaker 4: tray like like it sounds silly, but even after somatic healing, 931 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,680 Speaker 4: like I'm in like another realm, Like I'm dealing with 932 00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 4: so many different people's energies and I'm like fully just 933 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:33,799 Speaker 4: taking all of this stuff on and I can feel 934 00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:35,560 Speaker 4: really like out of my body and like in a 935 00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,399 Speaker 4: literal other planet. And so I really need to come 936 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,440 Speaker 4: back down to the Earth. So I literally just like 937 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,560 Speaker 4: go lie in the park and like feel the ground. Yeah, 938 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:46,480 Speaker 4: like feeling your two feet on the ground. And also 939 00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,520 Speaker 4: like doing things where you've named things in your space. Yeah, 940 00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:51,360 Speaker 4: that would be my go to. 941 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:53,759 Speaker 1: And how has this, like all of this stuff that 942 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:55,919 Speaker 1: you've done over the last couple of years, how would 943 00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:57,839 Speaker 1: you say it's helped you? 944 00:38:57,960 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 2: Like are you a completely different person? 945 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, Like I'm still myself at my court. I mean 946 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,640 Speaker 4: my friends would be like, girl, you are literally so different, 947 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:06,719 Speaker 4: Like it's crazy, like you. 948 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,680 Speaker 3: Have changed so much. I think I'm more. I'm just 949 00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:10,759 Speaker 3: so much more myself. 950 00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, Like I think I had masks and things that 951 00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,360 Speaker 4: I was hiding behind that was like what I was wearing, 952 00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:18,480 Speaker 4: what I was doing, if I was trying to get 953 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,560 Speaker 4: like external validation from guys or like posting online and 954 00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:23,960 Speaker 4: like trying to get something out of them. 955 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,440 Speaker 3: Like now I just am I don't really. 956 00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:29,120 Speaker 4: Care what other people think, which I think I have 957 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:32,000 Speaker 4: to because what I do is so like left field 958 00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:32,440 Speaker 4: that I. 959 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:33,120 Speaker 3: Can't really care. 960 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think it really just aligned me to 961 00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,160 Speaker 4: go after the things that I've always wanted to go for. 962 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:41,680 Speaker 4: Like I think healing is a forever process, but it's 963 00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,719 Speaker 4: something that is meant to evolve you so that you 964 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:46,920 Speaker 4: can live out your dreams. Like I don't think you're 965 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,520 Speaker 4: meant to just be stuck in this state of healing forever, 966 00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,640 Speaker 4: and it's meant to bring things to the surface so 967 00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,640 Speaker 4: that like you can do what you want. Like, for example, 968 00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:57,279 Speaker 4: I've wanted to do acting since I was like five 969 00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,120 Speaker 4: years old, but there was like always things like my 970 00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,279 Speaker 4: mom was like, oh, you can't, can't do it, like 971 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,399 Speaker 4: you we don't have enough money, Like there's no enough 972 00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,200 Speaker 4: money to go to classes and all of this stuff, 973 00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:08,160 Speaker 4: and so it kind of went to the back burner 974 00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:12,799 Speaker 4: for like a long time. But then through doing all 975 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,720 Speaker 4: of this work, I felt like my self worth raised 976 00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:19,080 Speaker 4: a lot more and I just manifested more opportunities with 977 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,480 Speaker 4: acting and acting classes, and it just it made me 978 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,520 Speaker 4: realize like that you don't have to give up on 979 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:26,919 Speaker 4: anything that you want to do. Like and I also 980 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,400 Speaker 4: thought that maybe I'd have to choose between healing and 981 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:30,799 Speaker 4: acting and I was going to have to be this 982 00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 4: thing that was completely different, and really they actually like 983 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:37,360 Speaker 4: are really similar, which is super interesting. But yeah, I 984 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,799 Speaker 4: think it just gave me the permission to be myself 985 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:43,600 Speaker 4: and to not hold onto these like past stories which 986 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:48,919 Speaker 4: and repeat like intergenerational trauma, you know, like and I 987 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,040 Speaker 4: don't want to pass this on to my children. 988 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:52,040 Speaker 3: That's the biggest thing. 989 00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:55,120 Speaker 4: It's like, yeah, I want to be where it stops, 990 00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,600 Speaker 4: you know, when you can see patterns within like families, 991 00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:00,400 Speaker 4: and I don't want to be that moving forward or 992 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,719 Speaker 4: for like the future generations, or to show other young 993 00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:07,120 Speaker 4: people in similar situations growing up that like that doesn't 994 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:08,840 Speaker 4: have to be your life. 995 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:09,600 Speaker 2: You don't have to. 996 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:11,920 Speaker 1: Like I feel like people will been like, yeah, I'm 997 00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:15,239 Speaker 1: fucked up, and then they make that their identity. It's 998 00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,560 Speaker 1: like rewriting that it's exactly Yeah, it's something that you experience, 999 00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:19,520 Speaker 1: but it's not who you. 1000 00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:21,640 Speaker 3: Are, not being a victim to it. 1001 00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:23,399 Speaker 4: I think it's really easy to be like, oh, well 1002 00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:25,719 Speaker 4: this happened and none and all these things, and it's like, well, 1003 00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,080 Speaker 4: as soon as you have awareness that you're doing that, 1004 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:32,120 Speaker 4: then you can create separation and be like okay, like is. 1005 00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:33,200 Speaker 3: That serving me anymore? 1006 00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,240 Speaker 4: And like it's not that empowering to be a victim, 1007 00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,560 Speaker 4: Like you can be like I can actually manifest anything 1008 00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:41,160 Speaker 4: and change the reality. So I definitely feel like a 1009 00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:44,279 Speaker 4: very very different person. But at the same time, I 1010 00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,680 Speaker 4: just feel like the meed that was hiding the whole 1011 00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:48,440 Speaker 4: time has just arrived. 1012 00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,600 Speaker 3: Essentially, wow, yeah, I love this. 1013 00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like inspired. I'm like, okay, let's go. 1014 00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,840 Speaker 1: So for people who are inspired by this and everything 1015 00:41:57,920 --> 00:41:59,839 Speaker 1: like that and they want to maybe try it out 1016 00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,160 Speaker 1: or how would you say that we all get into it, 1017 00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:02,719 Speaker 1: I'll do it. 1018 00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:06,120 Speaker 4: Well, there's two options, so I mean there's a few options. 1019 00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,719 Speaker 4: So you can do it online sessions, which I like, 1020 00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:09,560 Speaker 4: I'm obsessed with. 1021 00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:12,320 Speaker 3: Like some people are a little apprehensive about online because they're. 1022 00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,359 Speaker 2: Like why how can you do whatever? 1023 00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,600 Speaker 3: It's it doesn't work, like what are you talking about? 1024 00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:17,520 Speaker 3: How do we even do that? 1025 00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:21,040 Speaker 4: But essentially, because it's like Wi Fi, it's essentially like 1026 00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:24,120 Speaker 4: Wi fi like energy doesn't like move through form or 1027 00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:27,359 Speaker 4: like space, it doesn't need a physical form to be there, 1028 00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:29,920 Speaker 4: And so you can feel someone else's energy, which actually 1029 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,480 Speaker 4: I tell people when they're dating, like when you're looking 1030 00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:34,520 Speaker 4: or if I'm on like hinge or something, I like 1031 00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:36,480 Speaker 4: try and energetically. 1032 00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:37,720 Speaker 3: Like get the vibe of someone. 1033 00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, instead of just like which feels a little crazy, 1034 00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:42,920 Speaker 4: but like if you can just like intuit their vibe 1035 00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:44,640 Speaker 4: a little more into like obviously you can like look 1036 00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:46,680 Speaker 4: at their pictures, but like what vibe are they giving 1037 00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:48,319 Speaker 4: off and does that like resonate with you? 1038 00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:50,600 Speaker 3: It actually does kind of work, yeah, you know. 1039 00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:54,160 Speaker 4: Anyway, so you can come to an online session and 1040 00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:56,960 Speaker 4: they go for like two hours and I guide you 1041 00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:58,600 Speaker 4: through the whole thing and starting groups and I do 1042 00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,960 Speaker 4: them like Friday, Saturday and Thursday at the moment, and 1043 00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,919 Speaker 4: so you sign up if guard is throughout the whole thing, 1044 00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,400 Speaker 4: and then yeah, you can come intuitively however much you 1045 00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:10,840 Speaker 4: feel like I recommend if you if you're really starting 1046 00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,120 Speaker 4: to like you want to like really transform and. 1047 00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:14,240 Speaker 3: Like heal a lot. 1048 00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:18,120 Speaker 4: I would do them like every second week, I feel, 1049 00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:19,799 Speaker 4: but like when we do retreats, you can we do 1050 00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,080 Speaker 4: them like three times a day, so okay, you can 1051 00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:23,040 Speaker 4: do them as much as you want. 1052 00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:24,360 Speaker 3: It's more just like how much you feel. 1053 00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:27,359 Speaker 4: Then we have like in person sessions, so like right 1054 00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,359 Speaker 4: now I'm just setting up like more different spaces for that. 1055 00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:33,200 Speaker 4: I'm doing day retreats, which is really exciting. So there's 1056 00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:36,560 Speaker 4: gonna be like different locations around Victoria and maybe like 1057 00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,560 Speaker 4: New South Wales, we'll say what happens where. Essentially you 1058 00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:41,680 Speaker 4: can either come for like two nights or you can 1059 00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,600 Speaker 4: come for the day and then you get three quinderline 1060 00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,200 Speaker 4: activation sessions, so it's like jamming all of the healing, 1061 00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:49,759 Speaker 4: like really jam packed into one day. So if you're 1062 00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,200 Speaker 4: really busy, you just really want to like transform, and 1063 00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:53,839 Speaker 4: then you get like a long lunch and it's really 1064 00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,239 Speaker 4: like guided and beautiful and like these really nice locations, 1065 00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:57,880 Speaker 4: which is really nice, and. 1066 00:43:57,760 --> 00:43:59,279 Speaker 2: Then you can the next one. 1067 00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:01,240 Speaker 3: There's one, actually there's one in a month. 1068 00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:02,120 Speaker 2: So I'm coming. 1069 00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:06,320 Speaker 3: I'm out come, Come. It's in the Greater from Roads, fun. 1070 00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,960 Speaker 1: And I have a girlfriend who definitely needs to do this. 1071 00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:09,800 Speaker 1: I'm making it. 1072 00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:09,960 Speaker 4: Come. 1073 00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:11,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, make it CAM three. 1074 00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:14,440 Speaker 2: If you're listening, you're coming through three. You're coming. 1075 00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:15,399 Speaker 3: We're calling you right now. 1076 00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:15,719 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1077 00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, and so there's that, and then I'm also planning 1078 00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:23,200 Speaker 4: a retreat next year in Mexico. I know. It's really cool, 1079 00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:26,120 Speaker 4: really cool location. It has like a cave and like 1080 00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,600 Speaker 4: a note in it, like you know, like those Mexican 1081 00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:29,400 Speaker 4: swimming holes. 1082 00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:29,879 Speaker 3: Yes. 1083 00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:31,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, so there's like a swimming hole in it. And 1084 00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,160 Speaker 4: then like you go and you walk in down in 1085 00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,560 Speaker 4: the cave and you can do healing sessions there. 1086 00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:39,440 Speaker 3: It's into long anyway. Yeah, it's like before, coach. 1087 00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,120 Speaker 1: Would you recommend someone maybe like instead of that three 1088 00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:44,880 Speaker 1: day thing? Yeah, I mean that day trip. Do you 1089 00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:46,560 Speaker 1: recommend someone doing it online first? 1090 00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:47,640 Speaker 2: Like? Should I do it online? 1091 00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:50,160 Speaker 4: I try it online first, Okay, just to give yourself 1092 00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:53,279 Speaker 4: a vibe, see what happens like or intuitively might be 1093 00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:54,879 Speaker 4: like no, you know what, I feel like, it's I'm 1094 00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:56,040 Speaker 4: just meant to do it on this day. 1095 00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:58,160 Speaker 3: Some people prefer in person. 1096 00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:00,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like I just want to like or 1097 00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,359 Speaker 1: not roll like roll Dog can just go to the day. 1098 00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:04,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you can just go on the day. 1099 00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:06,680 Speaker 2: And what we can buy tickets online? 1100 00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:08,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, the tickets online, so you can go on my 1101 00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,439 Speaker 4: websites like www dot the inside out. 1102 00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,280 Speaker 3: I think it's two eyes. There's two eyes and inside out. 1103 00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:16,799 Speaker 4: It could be three in the website, but also my 1104 00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:18,680 Speaker 4: Instagram it's the inside out and then you can book 1105 00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:20,840 Speaker 4: on there through my like acuity. 1106 00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:22,680 Speaker 1: So it's all and I share it on the hotter 1107 00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:26,000 Speaker 1: than yesterday age and you guys will so you guys 1108 00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:28,759 Speaker 1: can find it easily and I might see you guys 1109 00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:29,239 Speaker 1: next month. 1110 00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:32,200 Speaker 2: No car I'm coming tickets. 1111 00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,439 Speaker 4: It's really like it comes to you at the time 1112 00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:36,600 Speaker 4: that it's meant to find. 1113 00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:37,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm ready for this. 1114 00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:38,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I. 1115 00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:41,480 Speaker 4: Feel like you've just come back from London, you know, 1116 00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:43,960 Speaker 4: like it's a it's an exciting time to like shift 1117 00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:47,080 Speaker 4: and awaken and like, yeah, who knows manifest my summer 1118 00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:49,439 Speaker 4: exactly what summer could bring. 1119 00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:53,120 Speaker 2: Really, I'm really excited. I'm really ready for this. 1120 00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:55,400 Speaker 1: And if you guys want to come as well, then no, 1121 00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:57,400 Speaker 1: please come, you guys can all we can all shake it. 1122 00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:59,960 Speaker 3: Out together exactly and no pressure to share. 1123 00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:00,600 Speaker 1: No. 1124 00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:02,120 Speaker 2: I kind of want to shake though. 1125 00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,680 Speaker 4: I know everyone wants to shake, Okay, Everyone's like, well 1126 00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:07,280 Speaker 4: I shaking, yeah, and it's like we don't need a shake, okay, 1127 00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:09,239 Speaker 4: like shaking, sure. 1128 00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:10,400 Speaker 2: If it comes naturally. 1129 00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:12,400 Speaker 3: Let's not force this let's not force. 1130 00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:15,400 Speaker 4: Let's just let the shake happen when it's supposed to happen, 1131 00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:17,359 Speaker 4: you know, And it feels really weird when you try 1132 00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:19,440 Speaker 4: and force it, because I've been in sessions and like 1133 00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:21,600 Speaker 4: I've been like, okay, maybe I'll just like try force 1134 00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:25,040 Speaker 4: a shake to see like it's just like it's like no, no, no, 1135 00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:26,640 Speaker 4: it's like girl, that's not how this works. 1136 00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:28,120 Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, it doesn't work like that. 1137 00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:30,839 Speaker 1: And they're hypnotizing in the meditation. How do girls get 1138 00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:31,279 Speaker 1: into that? 1139 00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:33,120 Speaker 4: Well, you can look at I mean, I just go 1140 00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:35,160 Speaker 4: on YouTube and like look, I'm actually going to start 1141 00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:38,760 Speaker 4: making like my own guided meditations, which is like tea 1142 00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,600 Speaker 4: hasn't dropped. But like, well, because within the smatics you 1143 00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:44,160 Speaker 4: kind of I guide you throughout with the guarded meditation, 1144 00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:46,319 Speaker 4: so that and then to be magnetic, I'm like just 1145 00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:49,279 Speaker 4: like promoing them. But anyway, like their vibe, you should 1146 00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:51,320 Speaker 4: look up to be magnetic. So to be magnetic is 1147 00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,520 Speaker 4: it what like a it's like a neural manifestation okay 1148 00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:57,320 Speaker 4: on Spotify or they've got this, They've got a podcast. 1149 00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:57,760 Speaker 2: Okay. 1150 00:46:57,800 --> 00:46:59,080 Speaker 3: The podcast is like amazing. 1151 00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:01,680 Speaker 4: It's they also have like a neuroscientists come on, which 1152 00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:05,320 Speaker 4: talks about like the neuroscience behind manifesting, which is really interesting. 1153 00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:08,520 Speaker 4: They're doing like a book tour right now and they're 1154 00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:09,480 Speaker 4: really hyping them up. 1155 00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:11,640 Speaker 3: If no, I really I do tell everyone about them, 1156 00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:12,960 Speaker 3: so like maybe like. 1157 00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:15,560 Speaker 2: You need to cut or something this fully, like let's 1158 00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:16,120 Speaker 2: go to la. 1159 00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:19,640 Speaker 4: Yeah no, but they are amazing, Like they help me 1160 00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,240 Speaker 4: a lot in terms of like manifesting in my apartment 1161 00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:23,040 Speaker 4: all these things. 1162 00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:25,600 Speaker 2: So ye okay, yeah, well, thank you so much for 1163 00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:26,239 Speaker 2: me for coming on. 1164 00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:27,759 Speaker 3: God, thank you for having me. 1165 00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:29,880 Speaker 2: I really appreciate it. I feel like this has opened 1166 00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:31,040 Speaker 2: up and I needed this. 1167 00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:34,960 Speaker 4: Yea, So hopefully people that are listening to this, it's 1168 00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:35,960 Speaker 4: like it I feel like. 1169 00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:38,840 Speaker 1: They Yeah, I feel like if you guys listen to this, 1170 00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:40,600 Speaker 1: maybe it's like a sign that you need to like 1171 00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:41,360 Speaker 1: tap into. 1172 00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:43,120 Speaker 3: Something exactly or make good a friend. 1173 00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:45,879 Speaker 1: Yeah you know, I thought of a friend straight away, 1174 00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:47,320 Speaker 1: exactly exactly. 1175 00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:48,200 Speaker 3: Send it to a friend. 1176 00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:51,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, she listens, so she'll be here. 1177 00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:52,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, but no, thank you so much for having me. 1178 00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:54,960 Speaker 2: No, thank you, And make sure you guys check out 1179 00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:55,400 Speaker 2: her stuff. 1180 00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:57,799 Speaker 1: It will be all on the Instagram and maybe I'll 1181 00:47:57,800 --> 00:47:59,960 Speaker 1: see a few of you guys next month exactly. 1182 00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:03,040 Speaker 4: Great Ocean Road, the inside out Dare Trades, Great Ocean Road. 1183 00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:04,640 Speaker 4: It's happening November fifteenth. 1184 00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:06,880 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm actually gonna put it in the calendar so 1185 00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,359 Speaker 1: i can book it, all right, Thank you so much, 1186 00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:10,600 Speaker 1: and I'll see you guys next week. 1187 00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:11,000 Speaker 2: My