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Speaker 1: Relatable and action. So how are you doing?

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Speaker 2: Welcome back? Everybody joined that at the Dilemma's episode.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that makes the cut. The action bit action, yeah,

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Speaker 1: they go action Yeah, yeah is what it is. I'm

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Speaker 3: Yeah, welcome back everybody.

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Speaker 1: This is the Lemmas. You know what we do. Don't

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Speaker 1: waste any time right into it. Let's do it all right.

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Speaker 1: Dilemmas is subscribing to only fans meaningful. My boyfriend and

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Speaker 1: I do long distance. We live in different states. A

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Speaker 1: few months ago, when my boyfriend was scrolling in his

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Speaker 1: camera roll next to me, I've seen a photo of

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Speaker 1: a naked girl. After questioning him about it for an

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Speaker 1: hour and making him show, making him show his bank

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Speaker 1: account admitting to being subscribed to OnlyFans, he was only

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Speaker 1: subscribed for two months to one girl and deleted his

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Speaker 1: profile next to me. I understand he isn't always going

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Speaker 1: to be with me and has urges he needs to fulfill,

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Speaker 1: but paying for it is where I draw the line.

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Speaker 1: I broke up with him, however, we ended up getting

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Speaker 1: back together and have been really good. However, I do

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Speaker 1: think about it often. If he is privately messaging these

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Speaker 1: girls or paying for extra content, etc. He found this

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Speaker 1: girl on TikTok and then from subscribe from there. My

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Speaker 1: issue is making me feel like I'm not good enough

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Speaker 1: as he paid to see this girl naked in brackets?

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Speaker 1: Who isn't even that good looking from a guy's perspective.

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Speaker 1: Do you think by him subscribing is it meaningful in

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Speaker 1: any way? I mean, porn has millions of videos and

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Speaker 1: he decided to pay for this girl to see her naked.

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Speaker 1: WHOA I came in? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: My first dilemma is like wildly similar? Oh really like

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Speaker 3: crazy similar?

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Speaker 1: You have read it them? Well, yeah, go through both

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Speaker 1: of them.

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Speaker 3: I have been dating my boyfriend for about a year

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Speaker 3: now and things were perfect. He is caring, kind, sweet,

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Speaker 3: can see myself one day getting married to him. Just

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Speaker 3: about a week ago, when he was out of town

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Speaker 3: for work, I was borrowing his MacBook and purely by chance,

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Speaker 3: I saw a recent notification from Apple pay that showed

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Speaker 3: a transaction to OnlyFans. I froze at the moment and

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Speaker 3: didn't know what to do. I was quite literally texting

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Speaker 3: But I bit my tongue and waited for him to

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Speaker 3: come home to talk to him about it. Come to

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Speaker 3: find out, he's been doing this our entire relationship, and

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Speaker 3: even before he met me. He owned up to his

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Speaker 3: wrongdoing and apologized. He admitted he's not perfect. He told

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Speaker 3: me he would stop and that the internet is not

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Speaker 3: worth losing me. He says, I'm too good for him.

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Speaker 3: I know he's had this issue in the past, but

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Speaker 3: other conversations we had seemed like he had conquered this problem.

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Speaker 3: He said, It's always been a fight for me that

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Speaker 3: God is testing me through. But it just shows that

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Speaker 3: he isn't as strong willed as I thought he was.

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Speaker 3: Makes me feel like I have failed as a woman

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Speaker 3: because I can't satisfy my own man. I'm not sure

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Speaker 3: how to move past this, whether to stay together and

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Speaker 3: believes thus trust him again. Wow, it's a little different

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Speaker 3: to yours. I want to answer yours first. Yes, so

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Speaker 3: you're go little recover. Yours first long distance relationship is

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Speaker 3: on his phone. Saw a naked girl.

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Speaker 1: She pressed him, and she's He admitted to having only

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Speaker 1: Fans for two months and deleted it in front of her,

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Speaker 1: And then she wants to know if it's meaningful to

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna say it's not.

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Speaker 3: I don't think it's meaningful, as in, like, I don't

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Speaker 3: think that he's going to ah, he doesn't have feelings

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Speaker 3: on her side with the breakup thing, all.

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Speaker 1: The disrespect Like, when you're a single, go for your life,

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Speaker 1: do whatever you want. Yeah, it's your life, yeahea, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: When you're in a relationship and you're having sex with

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Speaker 1: it's so disrespectful to buy another person's It's fucking crazy.

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Speaker 1: But how much was he paying this girl?

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Speaker 3: Exactly when even when I was single, Like when single,

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Speaker 3: I can't bring myself to pay for.

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Speaker 1: It, So I opened myself. I've bought one only fan

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Speaker 1: check in my life, and after it, you feel so like,

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Speaker 2: It's now I have.

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Speaker 3: Downloaded Only Fans, made an account and and because and

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Speaker 3: the reason it is because I used to follow this

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Speaker 3: I was like fuck.

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Speaker 2: I was like, fuck it, I want to see it naked.

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Speaker 2: I was single.

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Speaker 3: I was single, and so I downloaded it, made a count,

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Speaker 3: and then went on there and I saw that it

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Speaker 3: And so I deleted it and didn't pay. I was

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Speaker 3: like that I don't paying for but I totally I

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Speaker 3: don't know. I'm just a lot of people do it.

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Speaker 2: A lot of people do it.

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Speaker 1: She makes us such a good point, like I'm still

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Speaker 1: like happy for you to wank in. She goes pawns

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Speaker 1: there watch more millions of girls and men on porn

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Speaker 1: then you could go see for free.

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Speaker 2: It's almost like it's something about.

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Speaker 1: It's a thing, like you can't have it, so you

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah, And it's more of

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Speaker 3: it makes it feel more exclusive that you're paying for

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Speaker 3: this because then fad, I've got a girlfriend exactly, so

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Speaker 3: I don't I I don't know.

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Speaker 2: It's I think.

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Speaker 3: I honestly think that breaking up with him right choice,

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Speaker 1: I would give if I was the girl, I would

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Speaker 1: honestly give him the benefit of doubt once. Yeah, because

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Speaker 1: But answering her question, it's not meaningful at all. It's

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Speaker 1: I think it just adds another element to masturbating to

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Speaker 1: make it more exciting. You know, when you're like, have

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Speaker 1: It's sort of like, oh, I couldn't really be here,

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Speaker 1: Think maybe girls think because there's an element of personal

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Speaker 1: messaging on only fans that they think it's more intimate.

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Speaker 2: You also have to pay another paybll for that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah, but like if I was, I wouldn't

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Speaker 2: No, no, you wouldn't know.

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Speaker 3: A guy doesn't look at it any different porn, And

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Speaker 3: it's just that he spent money on it, which is wild. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: but you can pay for a porn up description. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you have better things. I don't know. But the second

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Speaker 3: one my dileoma recap that recap. It is so she

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Speaker 3: was borrowing his MacBook while I was away for work,

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Speaker 3: and she saw the notification for Apple pay only fans payment.

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Speaker 2: All right, she's froze.

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Speaker 1: I have a little bit of a rebuttal there. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I swear those websites don't say only fans for your

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Speaker 1: bank statements. They say like something weird. Oh, because they

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Speaker 1: don't want That's one of the lot of people don't

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Speaker 2: Because they don't want people to know they're paying for

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they don't want their bank to be like OnlyFans

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Speaker 2: So there's two things. So if that's the case, there's

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Speaker 3: Either she may have snooped further and she doesn't want

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Speaker 2: But in the same time, it's like.

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Speaker 1: But Apple pay might be different if you just see

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Speaker 3: The other thing I was thinking was literally, at the

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Speaker 1: Come up full time.

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Speaker 2: So I don't want to get you. I don't want

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Speaker 3: Either you snooped further than you want to admit, which,

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Speaker 2: But okay, so she was she saw that come up, she.

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Speaker 3: Wrought it up, and he admitted is wrongdoing. He's been

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Speaker 3: Now he said that, he said to her you're too

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Speaker 3: good for me. I would like to say manipulative, is

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Speaker 1: I didn't even think of that.

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Speaker 3: He's been caught out, You've confronted him, and he's literally

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Speaker 3: but you've just made this mistake.

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Speaker 2: It's okay, we'll get past this.

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Speaker 1: But he he.

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Speaker 3: Knows that it's wrong, not fucking He's not an idiot.

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Speaker 3: And then he said it's always been a fight for me,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like, seriously, why.

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Speaker 1: Do you even God into buying only Evans.

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Speaker 3: What I'm saying is this guy is just yeah, he's

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Speaker 3: trying to manipulate you. I'm sorry, That's what I'm pointing out. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: even I didn't even realize that too.

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Speaker 3: This one's different to the first one. This one, this

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Speaker 3: one did she stay with them? So she said she's

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Speaker 3: still with him. I'm not sure how to move past this,

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Speaker 3: whether to stay together and believe slash trust him again,

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Speaker 3: it's really your choice.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't trust that one.

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying is it's just once. Trust, it's

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Speaker 3: I think that I think that a guy's reaction shows

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Speaker 3: Although what he did was wrong, I think that one's

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Speaker 2: But this one is giving me bad vibes.

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Speaker 1: He just reflected and then what he did manipulating.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like I don't know basically, and I don't get it.

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Speaker 3: Guys are fucked only fans.

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Speaker 2: Is just ridiculous. Paul's ridiculous. It's just too fucked this

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Speaker 2: day and age is ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: Funny note do reckon. There's a certain amount of money

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Speaker 1: that makes it worse. Say we're both girls. We see

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Speaker 1: our boys subscribed to only fans. Mine's my boy's done

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Speaker 1: five bucks, yours is done forty five?

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Speaker 2: Fuck off forty five.

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Speaker 3: And you and you told me that you can't afford

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Speaker 3: to buy me flowers?

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Speaker 2: Are you fucking serious? Oh my god?

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Speaker 1: Saying that, like, oh yeah.

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Speaker 2: Two plus two equals for the streets, bro?

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Speaker 3: Are you serious?

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Speaker 1: So a number does change it?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: My bucks is nothing.

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Speaker 1: I reckon that'd be you know how people put like

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Speaker 1: thousands of dollars through the Pokey's. Yeah, I reckon there'd

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Speaker 1: be some blokes who do like one hundred bucks a

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Speaker 1: week on only fans or something.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, there is.

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Speaker 3: I've seen just like you know, how a lot of

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Speaker 3: podcasts were trying and get a lot of listens by

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Speaker 3: getting an only fans model on there. Yeah, they'll do

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Speaker 3: like a guest only fans model and they'll go on.

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Speaker 3: Some of them would post a clip where there's there's

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Speaker 3: a girl that floated around where a guy I think

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Speaker 3: a guy wanted to give her like two hundred grand

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Speaker 3: just to take her on a date.

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Speaker 2: Really, so some people were just like.

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Speaker 3: That, are loaded loaded, really fucking go for it.

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Speaker 1: Fair if you had the money, But two hundred k,

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Speaker 1: I matine, how much money he's got.

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Speaker 2: That's a fair point.

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Speaker 3: I mean, look, I couldn't want to be caught paying

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Speaker 3: for any of that shit.

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Speaker 1: But no, neither. All right, everybody, you might be thinking

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Speaker 1: to yourself, the episode's only very short.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's only ten to fifteen minutes. What the hell?

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Speaker 1: What the hell did we stuff up?

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Speaker 3: No, he didn't.

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Speaker 1: Stuff up, unfortunately or fortunately for us, we have the

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Speaker 1: double episodes. We've gone to Monday and Wednesday. Dilemmas have

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Speaker 1: been moved to Patreon behind a paywall, so if you

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Speaker 1: want the rest of that episode, there's another fifty minutes.

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Speaker 1: It's actually really juicy too.

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Speaker 2: It's a juicy one.

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Speaker 1: It's on Patreon. Link is in the description of Spotify.

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Speaker 1: You know what to do. Sign up.

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Speaker 2: We love you and we'll see you over there.

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Speaker 1: See you