Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome back to the Mathsphenny podcast with me
Speaker 1: Joshua Fox. This morning, I'll be discussing Beth and TJ,
Speaker 1: this year's most low key couple who have mostly flew
Speaker 1: under the radar until this week, when TJ's lack of
Speaker 1: feelings were made more than clear during the homestays, mostly
Speaker 1: thanks to Beth's sassy mate who really steered things up.
Speaker 2: I don't know TJ, but listening to some of the
Speaker 2: stuff that he's set up, I'm like, wow, this seems
Speaker 2: really rehearsed.
Speaker 3: The friendship side of things between Beth and eys. The
Speaker 3: friendship that we've built too, like I see best friendship
Speaker 3: in the connection that we have is super super strong friendship.
Speaker 4: Using the word friendship quite a lot.
Speaker 1: Now, trust me when I say every girl needs a sassy,
Speaker 1: gay best mate in their life, and that is proof.
Speaker 1: TJ later then reiterated his lack of feelings towards Beth
Speaker 1: to his mate, saying this, so.
Speaker 3: What would you have to do between now and the
Speaker 3: end of the experiment for you to be feel different?
Speaker 4: For you to feel different?
Speaker 3: In mind a bit you can't write down on the list.
Speaker 3: If you do these things right now, we're gonna be perfect.
Speaker 3: I can't see how it would just snap in two
Speaker 3: weeks and change completely. And you know her parents wanted
Speaker 3: to answer last last night, if the experiments, my daughter
Speaker 3: gonna have a heartbroken.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 1: For any of you wondering why is TJ still on
Speaker 1: the show when it's quite clear after four weeks he's
Speaker 1: yet to develop any real feelings for Bev and is
Speaker 1: unlikely to ever do so, well, I was wondering that myself,
Speaker 1: so I reached out to a few people in the
Speaker 1: know and they all pretty much told me the same thing.
Speaker 1: Before I get to that, though, For the handful of
Speaker 1: hopeful romantics out there believing he will suddenly find feels
Speaker 1: and they're magically still together present day, one of my
Speaker 1: favorite TikTok creators, Aims Dicko, actually bumped into Beth randomly
Speaker 1: in a cosmetic clinic over the weekend and she just said, yeah,
Speaker 1: what's the go Are you still with TJ? And just
Speaker 1: listen to Beth's response.
Speaker 4: Guess who's here. It's Ben. It's a mass party. Beth
Speaker 4: is in the chair. She's gonna tell us all about
Speaker 4: her trauma. Spoiler, do you end up with TJ?
Speaker 1: So now back to my initial question, is TDA just
Speaker 1: stringing Beth along by this point or did he genuinely
Speaker 1: believe that he would develop romantic feelings towards her the
Speaker 1: more time that passed.
Speaker 4: I'm basically told by multiple people that he stuck.
Speaker 1: It out so long, firstly because he didn't want to
Speaker 1: look like a dickhead, a national telly, and according to
Speaker 1: the people have spoken to, TJ is actually a decent guy.
Speaker 1: But he knew from the very start that Beth was
Speaker 1: not for him. And this also feels horrible to say,
Speaker 1: but I suppose everyone has a personal preference. He wasn't
Speaker 1: really that attracted to her either, and again that's just
Speaker 1: because you know, she's not his type. Obviously, Beth is
Speaker 1: the and he sees that, but apparently just not the
Speaker 1: type of girl he would personally go for.
Speaker 4: Someone who knows TV in real life.
Speaker 1: Then went on to tell me that if he went
Speaker 1: on a first date with Beth in the real world,
Speaker 1: he wouldn't have asked for a second date, but he
Speaker 1: was cautious to at least try, you know, given this
Speaker 1: is married at first sight, not a random Tinder thing.
Speaker 4: And as much as he wanted to develop feelings.
Speaker 1: I'm told that he still never felt a spark, and
Speaker 1: then he just kind of stuck it out because he
Speaker 1: felt if he left too soon, he would look like
Speaker 1: a dickhead from not trying. But even when it then
Speaker 1: became clear to him that there would never be a spark,
Speaker 1: he then just didn't know how or when to leave,
Speaker 1: so he kept spinning that same line about you know,
Speaker 1: hopefully it will develop a relationship from the friendship.
Speaker 3: I'm in a situation that I dreaded the most that
Speaker 3: I have feelings for my partner and he possibly didn't have.
Speaker 5: Them for me.
Speaker 1: Another issue that I'm told apparently caused a lot of
Speaker 1: issues for them though, is the fact that Beth has
Speaker 1: never had a relationship as we know, and she's been
Speaker 1: pretty open about how she's been broken in the past.
Speaker 1: You know, once she's been intimate with a guy and
Speaker 1: then they kind of just ghost her. So like intimacy
Speaker 1: is a huge thing for her and for TJ, intimacy, well,
Speaker 1: it doesn't have quite as much emotional attachment to it,
Speaker 1: And that's going solely off this clip from TJ when
Speaker 1: he was on Big Brother in twenty twenty three talking
Speaker 1: about how many women he shagged. Take a listen to this.
Speaker 2: How many sexual partners have you had?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: That's not great at all. I'm not big brother. Can
Speaker 2: I give you a.
Speaker 4: No that has to be within ten No? You told us.
Speaker 2: Look, I'm not proud of this, a ol big brother,
Speaker 2: and I hope that there's.
Speaker 3: No relationships that are breaking up the head.
Speaker 2: You might over two hundred. Oh, TJ, it's quite the
Speaker 2: little rabbit. Again, I'm not proud of it.
Speaker 3: And it was the old man.
Speaker 5: I think it's.
Speaker 1: Very crown that you're hot. So on one side, we've
Speaker 1: got Beth who's been fucked around by so many footboys
Speaker 1: before and she's now pretty vulnerable when it comes to,
Speaker 1: you know, dating and sex. And then on the other side,
Speaker 1: we've got TJ, who's previously shagged two hundred women. He
Speaker 1: wasn't vibing bed from the start, but he didn't know
Speaker 1: how to tell her, so you just strunger along. We're
Speaker 1: talking about hoping to build a connection which never came.
Speaker 1: And also it's worth pointing out here that TJ dragging
Speaker 1: out a non existence romance on a reality show with
Speaker 1: someone while hoping to develop romantic feelings for them isn't
Speaker 1: new either. Because this clip I've just found from his
Speaker 1: Big Brother twenty twenty three reunion episode seems to suggest
Speaker 1: that he did it on there with another housemate he met,
Speaker 1: cod Bella. Take a listen to this, as the entire
Speaker 1: cast of that season sat down with Sonya Krueger.
Speaker 4: Bella, have you too kept in touch?
Speaker 5: We have kept in touch. When TJ got out of
Speaker 5: the house, he messaged me straight away and kind of
Speaker 5: kept in touch ever since then. So it's been really nice.
Speaker 2: So you guys are just friends.
Speaker 3: No physical connection, if that's what you're asking been.
Speaker 4: No physical connection, okay, but that's.
Speaker 5: Not that you gotta worry about.
Speaker 2: It's the mental connection that you have to worry about.
Speaker 5: I'll just watch a movie tonight.
Speaker 4: You knew you were going to see her, he is there.
Speaker 2: There may be no physical connection, but is there a
Speaker 2: mental connection?
Speaker 4: Is there like an emotional connection?
Speaker 2: I think we definitely get along well.
Speaker 5: So yeah, Bella, Yeah, I think we've gotten along from
Speaker 5: day one, to be honest, and I think we've probably
Speaker 5: both like opened up to each other a little bit
Speaker 5: more and seen a bit more of each other's personality
Speaker 5: is coming out of the house, and that's been really nice.
Speaker 4: I don't know much background context of that.
Speaker 1: I didn't ever watched that season, and I don't think
Speaker 1: many if you guys did, since it flopped and was
Speaker 1: canceled after that. But the story just seems quite similar
Speaker 1: to what's happening now. So basically, to summarized, TJ and Beth,
Speaker 1: he knew from the start she wasn't for him. He
Speaker 1: gave it a go at the start, still realizing, nah,
Speaker 1: there's nothing there never will be. But he then didn't
Speaker 1: know how or when to leave, so he just didn't.
Speaker 1: And that's the place where right now, where it's just
Speaker 1: a bit awkward. That's all I got for you today.
Speaker 1: Thank you guys, and I will see you later. Have
Speaker 1: a lovely day.