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Speaker 1: Welcome to Healthy Ish. Thanks for joining us today on

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Speaker 1: the Body and Soul podcast. I'm your host of Felicity Halley. Now,

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Speaker 1: however you feel about the outcome of the US election? Oh? Yes,

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Speaker 1: we are talking about can there ever really be sex

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Speaker 1: without politics? I know, juicy topic right, Also two other

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Speaker 1: topics that hit our attention this week. I am joined,

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Speaker 1: of course by our title editor Holly Beckerman to discuss

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Speaker 1: all of the above.

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Speaker 2: Holley, Welcome to Healthy Ish. Hi FLEs, how are you.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I'm leaving the Ish today. I've had a cold,

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Speaker 1: but not enough to flatten me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, You've been flattened a few times this year though

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Speaker 2: I have.

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Speaker 1: Maybe there's a there's a message in there for me.

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Speaker 2: Vitamin C pump out. That's my expert advice for you.

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Speaker 2: I know, yes, hell you, I'm really well. I've been

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Speaker 2: on a massive home improvement kick at the moment. I

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Speaker 2: bought a new furniture, I've cleaned things up. I'm feeling

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Speaker 2: really good about it. Before lighter I do, I've chucked

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Speaker 2: out so much crap. It's so much better in there,

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Speaker 2: and it looks great. I just feel so much more

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Speaker 2: at ease in my mind.

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Speaker 1: It's quite amazing the effect that doing a clear out

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Speaker 1: like that can have on you.

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Speaker 2: Marie Kondo was onto something, guys, the reason she's the

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Speaker 2: best seller.

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Speaker 1: Actually, I'm in the stage where I need to do

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Speaker 1: a clean out, and I actually feel like it is

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Speaker 1: adding to that mental clutter when I see, yes, things

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Speaker 1: that need to be thrown out, but perhaps my kids

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Speaker 1: don't play with any more old sneakers of mine that

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Speaker 1: are worn out, and it just gets that stage where

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Speaker 1: you have to commit.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I agree, and I think I really hold on

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Speaker 2: to things for sentimental value. And I was just like

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Speaker 2: Holy in the bin gone and it has made me

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Speaker 2: feel so much lighter. This is your signed to buy

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Speaker 2: a seventy five dollars k much elf, it might change

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Speaker 2: your life.

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Speaker 1: Well off with the well not the seventy five dollars shelf,

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Speaker 1: but the first story of the week.

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Speaker 2: Maybe you not feel lighter, which the story is, can

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Speaker 2: there ever really be sex without politics? Do you see?

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Speaker 2: Do you see? So? Obviously we're in the midst of

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Speaker 2: the US election, which is a stressful time for many,

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Speaker 2: and I loved this piece that Sarah Bozza, who's a

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Speaker 2: dating coach, wrote for us. What do you think fliss

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Speaker 2: do you think there can be sex without politics. Well, yes,

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Speaker 2: if you don't talk about it. Yeah, but then how

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Speaker 2: open is your relationship if you don't talk about it. Well,

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Speaker 2: that's true.

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Speaker 1: It depends how long you are you are along in

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Speaker 1: the relationship.

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Speaker 2: I agree, Sorry, a spectrum, you are probably tru true. True.

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Speaker 2: I know couples who vote very differently who just have

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Speaker 2: a rule that they don't talk about it, and they've

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Speaker 2: been together for like ten million years.

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Speaker 1: I have a rule that I don't talk about it

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Speaker 1: to my parents.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think that's a safe for all for a

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Speaker 2: lot of people. Anyway. Sarah thinks the short answer is no,

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Speaker 2: but that doesn't mean that you can't have sex despite politics.

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Speaker 2: So she references this new research out of the US

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Speaker 2: which shows that political line alignment is now a non

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Speaker 2: negotiable for many singles, and twenty eight percent of Gen

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Speaker 2: Z and millennials have ended relationships due to differing political beliefs,

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Speaker 2: and nearly half of people on both sides of this

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Speaker 2: political spectrum are reluctant to date across party line. I

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Speaker 2: can't get this totally.

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Speaker 1: Like in the last particularly well five ten years, with

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Speaker 1: politics being so much more polarizing. Yeah, you know in

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Speaker 1: the middle there's not much in the middle ground that

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Speaker 1: I you know, if I was dating again, if I

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Speaker 1: was in the gen Z category, i'd probably date someone

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Speaker 1: who agree with me too exactly.

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Speaker 2: And I think that maybe people have much stronger political

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Speaker 2: beliefs than they used to because we have those echo

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Speaker 2: chambers on social media way just what you think just

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Speaker 2: gets circulated around over and over again, so you don't

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Speaker 2: get exposed to different things quite as much. So knowing that,

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Speaker 2: what do you do if you find yourself across the

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Speaker 2: table from someone who is on the opposite end of

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Speaker 2: this to throw my training in their face? You're attracted

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Speaker 2: to them? Right? Well? I think so, I think you are.

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Speaker 2: Sarah's advice she says to start with check your own biases.

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Speaker 2: Are you putting someone in a box before you get

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Speaker 2: to know them? Probably? So instead ask like genuine questions

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Speaker 2: and try and be curious rather than judgmental. Hard good

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Speaker 2: advice though. The second she says is acknowledge, don't agree,

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Speaker 2: So you don't actually have to agree with everything you say,

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Speaker 2: but you should acknowledge their perspective and show that you've

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Speaker 2: heard them, just to make the conversation more amiable and

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Speaker 2: less combative that, Yeah, you do need to listen, I think.

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Speaker 2: And then the third one she says is check to

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Speaker 2: see if the person feels heard at the end of

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Speaker 2: the conversation, because if you do that for them, then

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Speaker 2: hopefully that trains them to reciprocate when it's your turn

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Speaker 2: to share as well. Is wisdom for all of us.

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Speaker 2: I think so too. Not necessarily dating. It's with friends,

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Speaker 2: with your parents, with new people.

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Speaker 1: Listen, just listen to people's perspectives without jumping down their throats.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, guys, I like that.

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Speaker 1: Well, I've got something that's completely on a different tangent here,

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Speaker 1: but in fact hit me in it. No more politics.

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Speaker 1: This is all about light and how light exposure can

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Speaker 1: alter your life span by up to five years, according

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Speaker 1: to a new study out of Flinders University. I don't

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Speaker 1: know about you, but I'm interested in the circadian rhythms

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Speaker 1: and how it works and how it evolves. So this

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Speaker 1: study basically, wearable light sensors were worn by eighty eight

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Speaker 1: thousand adults over the age of forty for one week

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Speaker 1: and then researchers followed up on their outcomes more than

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Speaker 1: eight years later.

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Speaker 2: And what date's going on in that pick it up.

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Speaker 1: But yes, and what their findings were were basically, bright

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Speaker 1: light at night and dim light during the day increased

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Speaker 1: the risk of premature death by thirty percent.

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Speaker 2: Homate your death. That's high stakes, exactly exactly.

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Speaker 1: So basically, I mean it just points back to ever

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Speaker 1: and how we were set up. You know, well, how

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Speaker 1: we evolved as humans, and that we have evolved in

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Speaker 1: a twenty four hour light dark cycle, and you know

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Speaker 1: that's almost baked into our DNA, and that light sets

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Speaker 1: our circadian rhythms time where we're at and can either

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Speaker 1: enhance or disrupt that depending on the time of exposure.

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Speaker 1: So really you have to avoid the bright lights at

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Speaker 1: night and seek as much daylight as possible in the

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Speaker 1: daytime hours to promote optimal health and longevity.

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Speaker 2: Wow, I guess because the knock on effects really are

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Speaker 2: it's concentration, it's sleep, it's mental health, like of course

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Speaker 2: that's going to contribute, and also quality.

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Speaker 1: Of I read a yeah, a expert talk about the

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Speaker 1: actual organ systems also feed into our circadian rhythms and work,

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Speaker 1: and so that's why at nighttime it's better to eat earlier,

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Speaker 1: so your body digests, your digestive systems working and it's firing.

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Speaker 1: Whereas you know, deep into the night when you're supposed

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not great for sleep. It really reminds you

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Speaker 2: that we are animals, we are creatures of the earth.

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Speaker 1: The other thing I will add that is that it's

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Speaker 1: actually really easy to change these patterns. So your body,

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Speaker 1: basically your body clocks can respond quickly, and so tonight,

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Speaker 1: dim the lights down after dinner and start bringing your

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Speaker 1: body into almost sleep mode and then when you wake up.

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Speaker 1: We've heard all heard this before, no doubt it's been

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Speaker 1: I think Doc and Michael Mosley said it many years ago.

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Speaker 1: But just get out in daylight as soon as you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and turn off the big light, put those small

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Speaker 2: pendent lights on. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, just quickly before we go, give us a rundown

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Speaker 1: of the most clicked story of the week.

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Speaker 2: The top clicker woes. The one thing people with allergies

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Speaker 2: or asthma should never do. Can you guess what it is? No,

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Speaker 2: it's actually lighting incense. Huh. Yeah, I'm hoping that candles

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Speaker 2: aren't included. In that because I'm a big candle. But

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Speaker 2: a new study examined the rapid health decline of a

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Speaker 2: woman with asthma and was linked to burning incense regularly,

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Speaker 2: which it says that that can lead to various health

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Speaker 2: issues such as headaches, respiratory dysfunction, and skin sensitivity. And

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Speaker 2: as explained in the research, incense fumes contain a whole

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Speaker 2: host of chemicals that I can't pronounce, but are carcinogenic.

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Speaker 2: So what a bummer. I'm good to know.

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Speaker 1: Interesting, I wonder if it doesn't relate to candles as well.

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Speaker 2: I'll dig deeper and report back on that one next week.

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Speaker 1: But interesting, that was the most clique that this time

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Speaker 1: of year because I am a high ferver sufferer and

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Speaker 1: I have got allergies bad right now?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Are you eyes? Weeping, nose running.

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Speaker 1: An itchy knows?

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Speaker 2: It's so reallyable, isn't it so frustrating? Anyway?

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Speaker 1: Luckily I don't burn incense.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I stay safe.

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Speaker 1: People sat in the sunlight and see you next week.

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Speaker 1: But Sully, well, folks, how do you feel about that?

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Speaker 1: Sex and politics?

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Speaker 2: Anyway?

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Speaker 1: I hope you do have a great week that follows.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for listening. If you do well have any topics

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