1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: Five Double A Nights with Matthew Pantellas. Let's reminisce. Let's 2 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 1: reminisce about the best store we had in South Australia 3 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: up until the late nineteen nineties. Around nineteen ninety eight, 4 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: John Martin's, and I see on social media there's a 5 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 1: push out for staff to take part Old Johnny Staff 6 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:24,959 Speaker 1: to take part in a documentary called John Martin's The 7 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: Big Store. Producer is Christy Coppley and she joins me, Now, Christy, good. 8 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:32,480 Speaker 2: Evening, Hello, Matthew, how are you very well? 9 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: Thank you? So what are you trying to capture here? 10 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 2: Look where we want to tell the story of John 11 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 2: Martin's from the happiest point of view that we can. 12 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:46,879 Speaker 2: There are a lot of there are a lot of 13 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 2: sad memories about when it closed, but there's also a 14 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 2: lot of beautiful stories out there that people still have 15 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 2: and what to share and are happy to share. We've 16 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 2: never set out to do a story that is David 17 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 2: Jones bad, John Martin's good. We don't want to do that. 18 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 2: We just want to share the happy stuff. 19 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:12,759 Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, so everyone's got a story. Although I had 20 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: to explain to Jess, my producer, who was born in 21 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety eight, the year Johnny's closed. Who Johnny's was? 22 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 2: What? 23 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: It was? No idea? And that's a whole generation, isn't there. 24 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 2: I'm hearing you. We've had a couple of We've had 25 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 2: a couple of older people come in this week. We're 26 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 2: doing interviews at the moment, and we had a lovely 27 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 2: ninety five year old lady on Monday come in. We 28 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 2: had an eighty six year old lady on Tuesday, and 29 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 2: I think today my nephew came in. He was a 30 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 2: kid model for Johnny's when he was about seven or eight. 31 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 2: And then we had Prue Adams from the ABC, who 32 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 2: used to work on Landline and was one of my 33 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 2: colleagues when I worked at the ABC. She worked there 34 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 2: when she was fifteen. Well, Prue and my nephew were 35 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 2: two of the younger people today. 36 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 1: Well it's amazing, isn't it. And we've all got stories. 37 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: I was in an ad once for Johnny's because we yeah, 38 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:16,519 Speaker 1: they it was the seventies. I can tell it was 39 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: seventy five and we'd won a radio and AMFM cassette 40 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:27,239 Speaker 1: radio play. I know, I know, probably worth in the day, 41 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: you know, probably worth eighty bucks or something. You know, 42 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: FM brand new, you know who had FM back then. Anyway, 43 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: this thing played FM and an AM obviously in cassette 44 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: and recorded and all of that. And it was me 45 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 1: and my mum went in to collect it and they 46 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: took a photo and the photo with lots of other 47 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 1: winners of this. It was a scratchy type thing that 48 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: you know, you bought something and you got this ticket 49 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:54,239 Speaker 1: with it, you scratched it or peeled it back or whatever, 50 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 1: and mostly it was you know, try again, but we 51 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: won the radio and congratulate, so we had we had 52 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:03,920 Speaker 1: a photo and it appeared on the TV ad with 53 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: everyone other winner. So there we go. That's my memory 54 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: and Johnny, it's one of them. 55 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 2: That's lovely. Did you shop in there yourself. 56 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 1: All the time, all the time? Who didn't? And this 57 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 1: is the thing with that, Johnny, who didn't? So the 58 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 1: stories you're capturing is it just people and their jobs? 59 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: Is it shoppers who and how they get in touch 60 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:24,799 Speaker 1: with you? 61 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 2: We haven't spoken to too many shoppers yet. I'm more 62 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 2: than happy to get to leave you my email address, 63 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 2: and if people want to want to get in contact, 64 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 2: I'd love to hear from shoppers. I did have one 65 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 2: darling old lady called me and told me the most 66 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 2: beautiful stories about going into John Martin. She was a shopper. 67 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 2: She didn't work there, she was a shopper, went in 68 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 2: there and tried on gloves and was sat down at 69 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 2: the at the counter and the ladies put special gloves 70 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 2: on to try the gloves on her. And she went 71 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 2: to sugar On to have her hair done every Friday. 72 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 2: And I said to her, oh, look, we must get 73 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 2: you in for an interview. And she said, oh, no, dear, 74 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 2: I don't want to do that. She just wanted to 75 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 2: have a chat on the phone and tell me about 76 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 2: her memory. So it's interesting. Some people do want to 77 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 2: be on camera and share their stories and some don't. 78 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 2: And that's okay. 79 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: It is important to document it, isn't it, and get 80 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 1: this history down and it is a visual history of 81 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 1: people's memories before it's gone. 82 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 2: And Matthew, I do have to tell you there is 83 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 2: a wealth of archival material in the State Library that 84 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:43,799 Speaker 2: has only just been made accessible to the public. Really 85 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 2: in the last twelve months. We have had to go 86 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 2: through David Jones as the copyright owner of the archival 87 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 2: material to get their permission to reproduce it. But it 88 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 2: is accessible to the public and you can go in 89 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 2: there and have look anyone could go in there and 90 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 2: have a look at it. And there's some amazing old 91 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 2: photos in there, absolutely beautiful staff and this film. There's 92 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 2: there's a bit of video. The video unfortunately has started 93 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 2: to deteriorate. The film has hold held up incredibly well. 94 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 2: But yeah, it's a as a history buss myself and 95 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 2: with my colleagues, my abth X colleagues, we've just had 96 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 2: a wonderful time in the library looking at all these 97 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 2: old bits and pieces. We listened to a radio interview 98 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 2: that Philip Satchel did with with Richard Hayward and Jeff 99 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:45,280 Speaker 2: Coles the other day. I'm sure you'd remember Philip. 100 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 1: Statchel I do and Jeff Carles and obviously Richard as well. 101 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: Richard Haywood. 102 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, so Richard. Richard's been fantastic. He's a you know, 103 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:57,359 Speaker 2: as one of the one of the last Haywards or 104 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 2: from a descendant of the original family. Yeah, he's he's 105 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:03,479 Speaker 2: been fantastic. 106 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, wonderful. Well, you know, getting all this down now 107 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 1: we've had the book remembering Johnny's that was out a 108 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: year or two ago and Paul is working with us, 109 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 1: is he good? Well? I interviewed Paul at the time 110 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: and that was released and we had a good chat 111 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: about Johnny's and looking through and of course, I mean 112 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: the thing with Johnny's for people who don't know as well, 113 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:27,720 Speaker 1: that's where the Christmas pageant we've just celebrated and Adelaide originated. 114 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 1: I guess everybody listening would know that. 115 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 2: Absolutely. It's nineteen thirty three, I think was the first once, 116 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 2: yeah and yeah. The the interesting thing that I find 117 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:45,479 Speaker 2: with the pageant is that there was no advertising back 118 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:48,039 Speaker 2: in those early days. There was no mention of Johnny 119 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 2: and yet it was very clever because it ended that's 120 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 2: right at John Martin and into the Magic Cave Father 121 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 2: Christmas went and how heaven to be there there was 122 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 2: a whole toy department there where people could buy toys. 123 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 1: Yes, how about that coincidental? 124 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 2: Very clever marketing campaign without being a marketing campaign. 125 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 1: Absolutely, I mean, how smart was Sir Edward in getting 126 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: that up and going? And okay, the theme might have 127 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: been behind it, the great Depression time to you know, 128 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: forget about your woes for a little bit and enjoy 129 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: some fun on the streets of Adelaide, which everyone did 130 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: with what was it eight or eleven or something floats 131 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: and yes, and it hasn't grown ever since. But Johnny's, 132 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: I mean David Jones when they bought Johnny's the smartest 133 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: thing for them to do. And I'm sure in hindsight 134 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: they might even acknowledge that, although there'd be few people 135 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 1: left from those days to say it. But if they 136 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: had just changed the name of DJ's to John Martin's, 137 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: they would have an absolute winner in South Australia, would 138 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: they not? 139 00:07:55,840 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 2: Wouldn't they? You know, it's hard to pin down the 140 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 2: actual appeal of John Martins. Yes, is still is. People 141 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 2: still get incredibly emotional about it and I wish I could. 142 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 2: I wish someone could give me that definitive answer. But 143 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 2: it's a million different things to different. 144 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: People, absolutely, all right, Chris, when will this be out? 145 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 1: Will it be Is it going to be shown on Telly? 146 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: Is it just something that you'll put online when you're done. 147 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 2: No, Look, we are aiming for October twenty sixth. I 148 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 2: believe both Carrot Hill and the Adelaide City Council are 149 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 2: planning is celebration to coincide with the I think it's 150 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 2: one hundred and sixtieth anniversary of the opening of Johnny, 151 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 2: So we'd like to tag into that. And we're hoping 152 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 2: for a cinema release initially, and then we'll see if 153 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 2: we can get it onto a broadcast network. 154 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, And I tell you what, it would rate 155 00:08:57,880 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 1: its pants off. 156 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 2: It would, it would? It would most definitely. 157 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 1: All right, Christy? If people do want to get in touch, 158 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 1: so you're looking for primarily people who work there and 159 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:12,559 Speaker 1: have stories to tell and want to tell their stories 160 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: on film as opposed to just take up an hour 161 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 1: of your time on the phone, although you know background 162 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:22,679 Speaker 1: in phone, nothing wrong with that, absolutely, yeah, yeah, that's right. 163 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:25,439 Speaker 1: You never know what you could learn. So how do 164 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: they get in touch? 165 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:29,079 Speaker 2: Look my email address would you like me to give? 166 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 2: Would you like this? Okay? It's Christy k R I S. 167 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 2: T Y at abc X Productions Okay, dot com, dot au. 168 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:44,679 Speaker 1: Okay, we'll keep that here if people want it, I'll 169 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 1: give it out a bit as we go. But if 170 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 1: people want to. 171 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 2: Just call in, drop me an email. 172 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, lovely. 173 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 2: I think you chat just finishing interviews this week, so 174 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 2: you may not hear hear from me until next week, 175 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 2: but feel free to send me an email. 176 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: Long the doug are going to be. 177 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 2: Look, we're aiming for about seventy five minutes, but with 178 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 2: the number of people we're interviewing at the moment, it 179 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 2: could be two and a half hours. Wow. 180 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure. 181 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 2: Look, that's just the thing. The hardest part will be 182 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 2: what not to include. 183 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly right, exactly right, And you know what you're 184 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: going to have to do it. I think ultimately is 185 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 1: you're going to be Lord of the Rings. You release 186 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 1: it on Boxing Day every year for three years or something. 187 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 1: I like you, thank you, good on you, Christy, lovely 188 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:36,359 Speaker 1: chatting with you, Good luck with it. It sounds fantastic. 189 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 2: Thank you so much about you. 190 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:40,959 Speaker 1: Thank you, and maybe we'll talk again as it comes 191 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: a little bit closer to release. Love to do that. 192 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 2: That would be lovely. 193 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 1: Good on your Christy. Thank you Christy at abc X 194 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 1: Productions dot com dot AU. All right, kr I s 195 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: t Y Christi at abc Xproductions dot com dot A. 196 00:10:57,920 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 1: You'll give it out a bit later on if you 197 00:10:59,320 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 1: missed it.