Speaker 1: You're a beast. How dare you pick this topic?
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Speaker 1: acknowledge the Gadigle people of the e Or nation, the
Speaker 1: traditional custodians of this land, and pay our respects to
Speaker 1: the elders, both past and present. Welcome. My name's Cam Daddo,
Speaker 1: Mali Daddo, and it's us today. You've just got us.
Speaker 1: We're talking about the greatest film love stories and stories
Speaker 1: that shape the way we view love and relationship.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like this.
Speaker 1: Now we're hoping this inspires some thought with you. What
Speaker 1: are your favorite love stories? Your favorite films? Firstly, honey,
Speaker 1: what is your favorite form of entertainment? Is it film?
Speaker 1: Is it TV? Is it me jumping up and down
Speaker 1: on the couch going I love you?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: What is your favorite form of entertainment?
Speaker 2: The books? Can I say books?
Speaker 1: Why? Books are boring? I didn't think of books that
Speaker 1: wasn't on my list here books, But it makes so
Speaker 1: much sense with you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, books are just my absolute Are.
Speaker 1: There any movies of books that you've read that have
Speaker 1: actually lived up to your imagination of the Yeah?
Speaker 2: Sometimes yeah. I mean, I think across the board people
Speaker 2: are going to say this that it's it's never as
Speaker 2: good as the book, because I love the idea of
Speaker 2: where you can take It's your imagination and you have
Speaker 2: your own feeling in essence about that love story that
Speaker 2: you're reading in the book. So sometimes it doesn't play
Speaker 2: out as well.
Speaker 1: Right, you know, it's your imagination.
Speaker 2: In research for today, I happened to come across something
Speaker 2: that I thought was really interesting. Do you know what
Speaker 2: the oldest romance's story is?
Speaker 1: The oldest romance story? Yeah, I'm gonna look, I'm just
Speaker 1: going to go right back to biblical I'm just going
Speaker 1: to go Adam and Eve.
Speaker 2: Right, Well, that's what I thought. Well, I guess you'll
Speaker 2: understand what I mean when I say this being a yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: It's called the Love Song for Shin Sin and it
Speaker 2: was written about two thousand years before Christ in ancient Mesopotamia,
Speaker 2: and it's considered the oldest love poem that exists in
Speaker 2: text form but also functioned as a song performed during
Speaker 2: a sacred marriage ceremony. Wow, isn't that beautiful?
Speaker 1: It is beautiful, And that feels to me like when
Speaker 1: I ask you what's your favorite form of entertainment? Mine
Speaker 1: is I do love the visual thing of movies, but
Speaker 1: it's singing.
Speaker 2: I would have chosen that for you as well. I
Speaker 2: would have imagined that music yours.
Speaker 1: And when you put them together, yeah, like the images
Speaker 1: and the song dead in the Water, that's me gone
Speaker 1: and I'm tears and laughing and wow. Okay, so that's
Speaker 1: the love song of.
Speaker 2: Oldest love poem that they can. I'm sure there was more.
Speaker 1: I'm wonder sure.
Speaker 2: I'm sure the Stone Age people were, you know, professing love.
Speaker 2: But that's your oldest horizon one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, smack on the head, smack head.
Speaker 2: Drag by the head, Come on, No, they were probably
Speaker 2: a lot nicer to each other.
Speaker 1: Actually, well they needed each other, didn't they.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Okay, so we're talking about the greatest film love stories
Speaker 1: and stories that shape the way we view love and relationships.
Speaker 1: And I was going back through old school examples and
Speaker 1: so many lines from those old school movies. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: like I'm like to have and to have not nineteen
Speaker 1: forty four Bogie and Bacall, we had it all, lack
Speaker 1: Bell and Becall. Remember that song? Vaguely, I can't remember
Speaker 1: who sung the song that was totally like, wow, that's
Speaker 1: what it was. But that that one, there's Lauren McCall
Speaker 1: at age twenty three saying, you know how to whistle,
Speaker 1: don't you, Steve. You put your lips together and blow.
Speaker 1: You don't have to say anything and you don't.
Speaker 3: Have to do anything, not a thing. Oh maybe just whistle.
Speaker 3: You know how to whistle out, just Steve, you just
Speaker 3: put your lips together and blow.
Speaker 1: Twenty three. That was I think that was her first
Speaker 1: movie out of the Blox working. Yeah, with Humphy Bogart,
Speaker 1: I believe so Casta Blanca again, bogie in mar Bergmann
Speaker 1: or sorry Ingrid Bergmann. Yes, wartime romance said in Morocco?
Speaker 1: What was the famous line from Casta Blanca? Isn't that
Speaker 1: he is looking at you kid?
Speaker 2: Well there's yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, because sometimes there was
Speaker 2: there's line that have been accredited to movies that actually
Speaker 2: never happened. But yeah, I think it is. He's looking
Speaker 2: at you, He's.
Speaker 1: Looking at your kid, gone with the wind yep. Frankly,
Speaker 1: my dear, I don't give.
Speaker 2: A damn watch my do.
Speaker 1: Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn west Side Story.
Speaker 2: Yeah, one of your favorites chick though, I mean based
Speaker 2: off Romeo and Juliet right.
Speaker 1: For John Day and Affair to remember you mentioned that
Speaker 1: one I did. What was it about that movie? That's
Speaker 1: not that's that's nineteen fifty seven, I know.
Speaker 2: I know, and it just and that's one of if
Speaker 2: you don't know it, that's the one where a couple
Speaker 2: they meet on a cruise and they fall in love,
Speaker 2: like they like desperately fall in love, and they plan
Speaker 2: to reunite six months later at the Empire State Building,
Speaker 2: but you know, spoiler alert, she ends up being in
Speaker 2: a wheelchair and she doesn't want to meet him again
Speaker 2: because she feels like he's not going to love her.
Speaker 2: And it's just it's just really beautifully told.
Speaker 3: I idealize every woman, right, it's hard to keep them
Speaker 3: up pretty film. The pedestal wobbles and then topples.
Speaker 1: That would happen a lot in real life. I reckon
Speaker 1: like some especially today with all the dating websites and
Speaker 1: things like that, you might meet someone.
Speaker 2: I'm going that would happen today?
Speaker 1: Well yeah, yeah, wouldn't that happen today? Where someone's actually
Speaker 1: not being honest with their circumstances.
Speaker 2: So she was very honest. They met on the crew
Speaker 2: and clearly I.
Speaker 1: Haven't seen the movie. She was walking at the beginning. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I haven't seen it. Really confused I did. I'm thinking
Speaker 1: she was in a wheelchair at the very beginning, and
Speaker 1: he didn't know.
Speaker 2: Said the couple means fall in love listening, and that no.
Speaker 1: Still podcast, this is all about listening.
Speaker 2: They plan to reunite in six months, but she then
Speaker 2: is in a wheelchair. She has an accident and she's
Speaker 2: in a wheelchair.
Speaker 1: That's so sad.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 2: That's carry Grant, right, this is what I'm telling you,
Speaker 2: carry Grand debriquet. I have to listen to it, or
Speaker 2: listen to me one of the others. Really helpful.
Speaker 1: And then you've got another great relationship movie, my fair lady.
Speaker 2: Why is that a great relationship movie?
Speaker 1: Because it's Rick Harrison. I mean he changed.
Speaker 2: No, I don't think that's a great relationship movie, don't. No,
Speaker 2: I don't like that one.
Speaker 1: Audrey heapburns in it, though, But no, she have like
Speaker 1: a really weird Cockney accent in that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's like he falls in love on you
Speaker 2: when she changes, Like no, no, he should have loved
Speaker 2: it from the get go oh, all right, yeah, like
Speaker 2: why does she have to change for him? She doesn't,
Speaker 2: and he molds her into the perfect woman.
Speaker 1: That would Does that stand up today?
Speaker 2: No? I don't think it was right. And before I come,
Speaker 2: if you know them, say them I I ow y
Speaker 2: a E, I owe you. That's what I said. But
Speaker 2: did that influence you in some way?
Speaker 1: Trying to mold you for thirty three years? Is it working?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Now I'm still trying.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 2: I tell you a movie, A movie that I'm not listener.
Speaker 1: By the way, I'm not.
Speaker 2: A movie that I love love. I loved it when
Speaker 2: I was young, and I still love it.
Speaker 1: So we're moving up to are we looking at old
Speaker 1: school movies or we're bringing I'm.
Speaker 2: Going to tell you the movie. Okay, it's called Say
Speaker 2: Anything John Cusack. Yes, right, And actually Ione Sky she
Speaker 2: interviewed her with her husband, Yeah, which I got really
Speaker 2: like that's right, yes, And I got really kind of fangirl.
Speaker 2: But I got a bit star struck with her to
Speaker 2: just did that movie. But she was so good in it.
Speaker 2: But it's just I just love it because it was
Speaker 2: as a teenage girl. It was kind of this different
Speaker 2: kind of a love story because it was really this
Speaker 2: lovely young fella who was genuinely in love with his girlfriend.
Speaker 2: He didn't come from a bad background, and it wasn't
Speaker 2: all unrequited, and he just loved her and he was
Speaker 2: really nice. Yeah, the normal and working out the teenage stuff.
Speaker 2: And yeah, I wanted that moment for myself. I wanted
Speaker 2: a guy to come to my window with a boombox.
Speaker 1: See in your eyes moment.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so romantic.
Speaker 1: I'm not giving you one of those moments in our time.
Speaker 2: I have to think, Yeah, I have to think. I'm
Speaker 2: going to say yes, honey, Yes, yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm going to go with me. I am, because that was.
Speaker 2: A big influence on me I remember as a young girl.
Speaker 2: But look here. But before we go any further, I
Speaker 2: have a question for you girls. Girls grow up with
Speaker 2: fairy stories, right, Girls grow up with the Rapunzels and
Speaker 2: the snow whites and Cinderellas, And we learned that you know,
Speaker 2: it's about the guy coming and rescuing us, and you
Speaker 2: know you just wait for your handsome prince after you've
Speaker 2: cleaned house with seven small men. And it does, really,
Speaker 2: it does sink in like that sort of stereotypes. Yeah,
Speaker 2: those stereotypes does an impact. So what made an impact
Speaker 2: to you? As like you would have probably seen those
Speaker 2: movies as a young boy. I would think like, are
Speaker 2: those those sort of Disney movies or anything was Did
Speaker 2: any of those make an impact on you?
Speaker 1: I guess they did because I think.
Speaker 4: I fell for the stereotypical the man fixes things, I guess,
Speaker 4: the prince charming aspect, saving the day, I think, and
Speaker 4: being a fix it person.
Speaker 2: That that was the role you felt like, yeah, I
Speaker 2: do subtle, subtle imagery, I.
Speaker 1: Think so yea, yeah, he wasn't very conscious, so it
Speaker 1: was just more like, oh, this is the way you
Speaker 1: need to be, you need to make things right and
Speaker 1: fix things. Though I didn't actually watch those movies, weren't
Speaker 1: the movies that I watched as a kid. I loved
Speaker 1: things like so Sunday Nights was Disney Night and Disney
Speaker 1: Night my favorite Disney type of movies with a Huckleberry Finn,
Speaker 1: the adventure, Swiss Family, Robertson, those sort of movies.
Speaker 2: Not love stories, well different kind of love stories.
Speaker 1: I guess, yeah, I mean, and again I guess they
Speaker 1: were every every movie is a bit of a relationship movie.
Speaker 1: So Huck Finn was Hauck and Tom or Jim and Hark.
Speaker 1: They were important. I love those sort of stories, those
Speaker 1: adventure kind of things.
Speaker 2: And you've been looking for a big African American man
Speaker 2: all your life to show me the way, to show
Speaker 2: you the way.
Speaker 1: That's really weird. I had it for a while. Michael
Speaker 1: Edward Stevens was such a.
Speaker 2: What about our son's godfather Oscar?
Speaker 1: And Oscar there he is American? Yeah, But I love
Speaker 1: my sports movies, so all those sort of things I
Speaker 1: grew up with Cool and Goad of Gold and wind
Speaker 1: Rider with Tom Burlanson, and then Horsey movies and Light
Speaker 1: Horsemen and Farlap and things like that. They were the
Speaker 1: movies that really they were kind of sport movies that
Speaker 1: I still gravitate towards those. I'm a sucker for those
Speaker 1: American sports movies. Who's he is?
Speaker 2: And see? I think I did a lot of romance movies.
Speaker 2: I did a lot of especially romance coupled with like
Speaker 2: Princess Bride of course.
Speaker 1: Is well Princess Bride, that's on my list here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, great Westley love story.
Speaker 1: Why didn't you wait for me?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 2: You were dead?
Speaker 1: Death? Can I stop true love? All it can do
Speaker 1: is to learn for a while.
Speaker 2: One of the ones I really love to. I was
Speaker 2: reminded of this the other day. It's called Lady Hawk
Speaker 2: and it's Michelle Pfeiffer. Yes, and she is a hawk
Speaker 2: by night and he is a wolf, a wolf in
Speaker 2: the day and they never they can never meet in
Speaker 2: hum wow, and it's so beautiful. But I love that
Speaker 2: kind of magical. It's been called some magic and fantasy
Speaker 2: in with a love story. You got me every time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, don't go up there, don't go up.
Speaker 3: There's a wolf, a big wolf, the biggest wolf you've
Speaker 3: ever seen.
Speaker 1: Had a dead Man. The one movie that we watched together. Actually,
Speaker 1: I don't know if we watched it too. I know
Speaker 1: we have watched it several times together, but I don't.
Speaker 1: I think you might have introduced me to it was
Speaker 1: about time. Yes, did you see that before me?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I saw it with Lotus.
Speaker 1: Okay, so that was I'm looking at my list. It's
Speaker 1: twenty thirteen, so I definitely only came to it maybe
Speaker 1: five years ago. It's one to put on your list, listener,
Speaker 1: is it Dominal Gleeson? Is that how you say his name?
Speaker 2: I believe so, Yeah, Bill Nighy, Rachel McAdams.
Speaker 1: And Rachel McCadam. Yeah, that's me. Is one of the
Speaker 1: great relationship movies. How that changes through time? Did you
Speaker 1: have trouble parking? It's just such a long way to
Speaker 1: your car.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well my.
Speaker 2: Car is actually parked outside my house. I got a
Speaker 2: lift to the party.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's good, that's perfect.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: His relationship, Dom's relationship with Rachel McAdams is certainly that
Speaker 1: that's the obvious love story. But the father's son, Oh
Speaker 1: my god, now, listener, you have to know this. I
Speaker 1: don't know if you've seen the movie The Moment. So
Speaker 1: they travel through time and they can change time. It's
Speaker 1: a gift that the is it the eldest son in
Speaker 1: the family or the males, just the males in this
Speaker 1: family have where they can actually go back in time
Speaker 1: and change things.
Speaker 2: And they tell the story well like it sounds that's
Speaker 2: sounds a bit like ridiculous, but it's actually told really well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're actually I think this must be happening
Speaker 1: somewhere on the planet. Someone must have this superpower. But
Speaker 1: Bill Nighy, who is one of my favorite actors alive,
Speaker 1: and he's just done so many wonderful things, and he's
Speaker 1: so stinking quirky and interesting to watch. We talk about
Speaker 1: this bit and I don't want to give away the
Speaker 1: movie if you haven't seen it, but it is twenty thirteen,
Speaker 1: so you've had a long time to see it. But
Speaker 1: it's that last scene with when he's with his son
Speaker 1: together and he realizes I start to get here right now,
Speaker 1: when he realizes this is the last time they're going
Speaker 1: to see each other, and he goes, this is it.
Speaker 5: Wow, Oh I won I haven't one of yours.
Speaker 1: You finally got good.
Speaker 6: What's my priors?
Speaker 1: Apart from the Olympic gold medal? Of course A kiss
Speaker 1: will have to do. Kiss, I guiss ah, I get you.
Speaker 1: This isn't that you know, and then they get to
Speaker 1: spend that moment together.
Speaker 2: But it's also about that movie. It always inspires me
Speaker 2: because it's really about the choices that you make. Are
Speaker 2: the choices that you make, and you just love you
Speaker 2: love the people that you have in that moment. Like
Speaker 2: that's really that underlying theme across it as well. Even
Speaker 2: if you go back in time, like you still you
Speaker 2: know the choices that you make, is you just stand
Speaker 2: by them in a way. Do you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: like how that's really important all the way through.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that is true. What I'm thinking about in
Speaker 1: that moment is I'm very fortunate we both are to
Speaker 1: still have our parents with us.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And it's to make really make sure that I am
Speaker 1: fully present with my parents every time I get together
Speaker 1: with them, Yeah, because I know that that time is fleeting,
Speaker 1: you know, so, and you never know when it's going
Speaker 1: to be the last time.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. And what about speaking of which, that's also
Speaker 2: true of the most beautiful love story, which is the
Speaker 2: Notebook also Rachel McAdams, Yeah, Ryan Gosling.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and beautiful.
Speaker 2: That's a gorgeous story, the retelling of that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well them as older people, General Rowlands and James Garner.
Speaker 1: James Garner was always one of my favorite actors because
Speaker 1: he was Maverick on TV and I loved his Maverick
Speaker 1: and General Rowlands. I had the privilege of working with
Speaker 1: her getting to know them.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Did that movie influence you?
Speaker 3: And it?
Speaker 1: Well, it did his care with his wife and obviously
Speaker 1: you don't know that that's the case.
Speaker 2: Yeah, as it unfolds, yeah, you'll get.
Speaker 1: It and you go, oh my gosh, his patience that
Speaker 1: he has and then her just her beauty.
Speaker 3: I loved it in't it?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 6: They did good.
Speaker 3: I like this kind of story on.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you like it.
Speaker 3: I before, yes, perhaps more than was.
Speaker 1: Again, what it's taught me is, as you're looking at
Speaker 1: the seasons of a relationship, and you've mentioned this to
Speaker 1: me in private, just going oh, the seasons of our relationship,
Speaker 1: like we've been together for thirty odd years, and how
Speaker 1: where things started to where things are today, and you
Speaker 1: work through these different chapters. So to see that it's
Speaker 1: really played out beautifully in that in that movie, and
Speaker 1: I hope it's such a lovely depiction of where she's at, sorry,
Speaker 1: where General Rowlands gets to in older life, where she's
Speaker 1: lost her memory. There is some dementia, and there's a
Speaker 1: lot of there's a lot of attention today around dementia
Speaker 1: and what happens to us when we get older. I
Speaker 1: hope that we both stay like our parents are very
Speaker 1: present of mind, you know, so that we we are
Speaker 1: that James Garner shows a great example of how to
Speaker 1: be respectful and love, what love does, and what he
Speaker 1: will do for her in the notebook, it's it's it's
Speaker 1: a beauty. Did you write Crazy Stupid Love?
Speaker 2: I did write Crazy Stupid because I love that yours.
Speaker 1: I think it's relationship.
Speaker 2: What I love about that movie is, well, there's different
Speaker 2: love stories within it as well, and I think that
Speaker 2: they hit it really well. Like you've got a teenage
Speaker 2: kid with the older crush. You've got the player who
Speaker 2: finds the woman of his dreams.
Speaker 1: Ryan Goslin again.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is like, nah, this is it. I've actually
Speaker 2: found her, and then you've got again. You've got the
Speaker 2: couple that have been together for so many years like us.
Speaker 1: That sounds labored, I'm sounds tired.
Speaker 2: No, no, but it's nice to see a love story
Speaker 2: with people of a certain age that have weathered the
Speaker 2: storms of relationship, and they do. In this one, they're
Speaker 2: doing Crazy Stupid Love. There's infidelity and they get back
Speaker 2: together because they've been together for so long and they
Speaker 2: still love each other, and it's like it was a mistake.
Speaker 5: I met my soulmate when I was fifteen years old.
Speaker 5: We went out for ice cream after my dad started
Speaker 5: teasing me about my first aid the way dads do,
Speaker 5: and I told him, Dad, it's no big deal. I'm
Speaker 5: going to be going out with a lot of different
Speaker 5: girls on a lot of different dates, and that is
Speaker 5: the first time that I ever lied to my father.
Speaker 2: They come back together at the end, and I just
Speaker 2: love that movie. I just think it's a it's a ripper.
Speaker 1: I also love you know, there's David is it David Niedermeyer.
Speaker 2: That yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: I just love the way Steve Carell says his name,
Speaker 1: you know, fucking David Leader. But I love when they
Speaker 1: come back together. They come back together again in a
Speaker 1: whole new way. There just seems more respect and more listening.
Speaker 1: So I go with you on that one. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: and it is entertaining because there's so many different levels
Speaker 1: of relationship. Like you said, there's the young son with
Speaker 1: the older girl, but the older girls in love with
Speaker 1: with with the dad dad, and it's all weird. And
Speaker 1: then you throw Kevin Bacon into the mix and it
Speaker 1: is like that what about see we talked about at
Speaker 1: the very beginning my entertainment. I guess where I really
Speaker 1: connect with is through music. I love it when music
Speaker 1: and movies come together. And to me again, Ryan Gosling, Wow,
Speaker 1: La La Land, I could watch that movie. That would
Speaker 1: be one of those movies when you're scrolling through you'll stop.
Speaker 1: You'll always stop and watch that one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I also adore that movie. I just I'm
Speaker 2: just a sucker for a really really happy ending and
Speaker 2: the fact that they're not together at the end, and
Speaker 2: I wanted them to be together so badly, and it's like, oh, no,
Speaker 2: it's not gonna happen. Yeah, maybe there's appear because someone
Speaker 2: not he heels or do anything.
Speaker 1: There's some chance, but I'm frankly feeling.
Speaker 3: Nothings that, so it could be less than nothing.
Speaker 2: Too LOVESO you agree that fine way, so lovely.
Speaker 1: No, So I think pursuing your dream is really important
Speaker 1: because that's part of that relationship with self going. If
Speaker 1: you don't pursue your dreams, that can hurt who you are.
Speaker 1: And they both give each other the space to pursue
Speaker 1: their dreams. But as you say, the happy ending is
Speaker 1: they pursue their dreams, they fulfill their dreams, and they're together. Now.
Speaker 1: It almost happens, yeah, kind of.
Speaker 2: I mean, there's so many in any way, shape or form.
Speaker 2: You've got your movies like Your Ghost, which is devastating.
Speaker 2: You've got Mulin Rouge, which is another death of the
Speaker 2: loved ones, you.
Speaker 1: Know, and again entwined in music, great, great music and entertainment.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. Shakespeare in Love as well, which that's
Speaker 2: one of your favorites. All that movie. I just think
Speaker 2: that's really.
Speaker 1: Beautiful, like a sickness and it's cure together.
Speaker 2: Yes, like rain and sun, like cold and heat.
Speaker 1: Is your lady beautiful?
Speaker 2: Since I came here from the country, I have not
Speaker 2: seen her close? Tell me is it's beautiful?
Speaker 1: Thomas? If I could write the beauty of our eyes?
Speaker 1: I was born to look in them and know myself?
Speaker 2: What is it? Do you think? Why do we keep
Speaker 2: making films about unrequired love?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 2: Why do they keep on writing about that? Is it
Speaker 2: just because we've all experienced it at some point?
Speaker 1: And well, I think that's it. It's the it's we
Speaker 1: can relate to it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Plus, as far as you know, the technical side of
Speaker 1: what makes a movie interesting is that it's tension. I do.
Speaker 1: I do, as I said it before. It holds up
Speaker 1: bridges and buildings. You've got to have it. And in
Speaker 1: this unrequired love just builds so much tension and then
Speaker 1: you know, to have the payoff. I remember our therapist
Speaker 1: in La was saying that Jerry McGuire right, She was like, no,
Speaker 1: that's wrong, especially when when Jerry maguire stands up in
Speaker 1: front of Rene Zelwiger at the end and says, you complete.
Speaker 3: Me, you complete me, just has shut up, just shut.
Speaker 2: You had me at.
Speaker 1: Hello, you know, and she's going, we shouldn't need someone
Speaker 1: else to complete us, and whilst, yeah, that's true, Like
Speaker 1: I think if I didn't have you, i'd still be okay,
Speaker 1: But there's part of you that completes me, which I
Speaker 1: don't know, because there's stuff that there's always something undone, right,
Speaker 1: there's always I mean, maybe that's it. Maybe that's what
Speaker 1: it is. Maybe it's the carrot. There's still more And
Speaker 1: I love that because that keeps me engaged, that keeps
Speaker 1: the tension right right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, you're just making stuff.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 1: I'm not. Actually, I'm not. Actually, I do think because
Speaker 1: bloody hell, we lasted twenty five years over there there
Speaker 1: was a carrot that was being chased. There was something.
Speaker 1: There was always something you know, that keeps the momentum going,
Speaker 1: keeps me engaged, and I do like that. So maybe
Speaker 1: this is your maybe this is your psychic your way going. Ah,
Speaker 1: just withhold that little thing or keeping going.
Speaker 2: No, I'm not that com' not that initility either.
Speaker 1: What do you think about that? That you complete me?
Speaker 1: Does that resonate with you or do you agree with that?
Speaker 1: Do you agree with the therapist going you can't.
Speaker 2: Ah, I don't know. In a way, I get why
Speaker 2: it was such a powerful line and when when it came,
Speaker 2: you know, when that line was delivered because he finally
Speaker 2: realized how in love he actually was with her, and
Speaker 2: he was willing to sort of go in and say it,
Speaker 2: you know. I think he says it in front of
Speaker 2: a whole bunch of.
Speaker 1: Other all the women women's group.
Speaker 2: I love that. I think that's cool, and I do
Speaker 2: kind of get that thing where, yeah, you shouldn't have
Speaker 2: someone to completely complete you, you should feel completed yourself,
Speaker 2: you know. But it is a lovely thing to say
Speaker 2: at the same time. So, yeah, I guess if you
Speaker 2: go in the romance world, it's great. If you go
Speaker 2: in the therapist world, it might not be. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 2: completed and I want to join you in my completeness.
Speaker 2: It doesn't quite sound as good.
Speaker 1: It doesn't. Yeah, I'm choosing to walk beside you because
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm happy, I'm all one alone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, correct, there's some Some of my favorite romance
Speaker 2: films are the are the classics that the Jane Austen's
Speaker 2: like that those period dry. I love them, and I
Speaker 2: mean things like Pride and Prejudice. That's a that's a
Speaker 2: love story that a lot like Shakespeare stories as well.
Speaker 2: But the Jane Austen ones they just keep being retold
Speaker 2: as well because the story is so fantastic, you know,
Speaker 2: from TVs to movies, and that lets you know that
Speaker 2: that's a good love story.
Speaker 1: I might wonder, vibe. It's so little effort, it's civility.
Speaker 1: I'm rejected, and.
Speaker 2: I might wonder why, what's so evident a desire to
Speaker 2: offend and insult me? You chose to tell me that
Speaker 2: you like me against your will, against your reason, and
Speaker 2: even against your character. Ye and Prejudice, well, we've seen
Speaker 2: both that. The Bollywood version is bright and the kid love.
Speaker 1: What about the Bodyguard?
Speaker 2: Will you got that jacket for me?
Speaker 5: The red one?
Speaker 2: Please?
Speaker 1: I'm here to keep you alive, help you sharp?
Speaker 3: Thanks?
Speaker 1: Is that a relationship movie that sticks with you?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Does that come up at all?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: Good, It's not relation it's not relational for me because
Speaker 2: I'll never be a singer with Whitney.
Speaker 1: Well, no one's going to be like Whitney.
Speaker 2: Houston, but I'll never be a singer full stop.
Speaker 1: And no one will ever be a bodyguard like Kevin Costner,
Speaker 1: especially when that silk falls down over the top of
Speaker 1: his Japanese sword and it just because it's so sharp
Speaker 1: and it splits into.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, I really remember that film. I don't remember
Speaker 2: that part at all. Things clearly stayed with you.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, I think for romance movies, I often look for
Speaker 2: things that, yeah, just a bit more relatable, mind you.
Speaker 2: Princess Pride was relatable about that.
Speaker 1: I'm looking for the six Fingered Man.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh, but I have to say one of my
Speaker 2: all time favorite A movies and b romance movies. And
Speaker 2: when you were talking about books to movies, the Guernsey
Speaker 2: Literary and Potato Pie Society, how did you imagine me,
Speaker 2: mister Adams when you wrote me a letter.
Speaker 6: A tweed hunting skirt, very large in the bottom teeth
Speaker 6: like a horse, A few wisps of ginger gray hair,
Speaker 6: and glasses thicker is jam jarss.
Speaker 2: She sounds lovely?
Speaker 1: Who was the pig Farmy you some books to I.
Speaker 5: Did have a couple of ideas, but it was more
Speaker 5: of a sense that I was writing to someone who
Speaker 5: already understood me.
Speaker 1: I adore that film I Reckon, I Reckon. You've just
Speaker 1: knocked about twenty percent of our listeners off their chair
Speaker 1: when you said that, They've gone, yes, you reckon. Yes.
Speaker 2: I think it's an underrated film as well.
Speaker 1: It's a great movie.
Speaker 2: It's a great movie.
Speaker 1: Is it because? Is it also because for you? Or
Speaker 1: why is it a great movie for you?
Speaker 2: Well, she's she's a writer, which I love number one,
Speaker 2: and a great writer as well. Yeah, it's just going
Speaker 2: out to that little island in Guernsey and just post
Speaker 2: World War two and just the stories of the people there,
Speaker 2: but the connection that they have with each other, and
Speaker 2: again the kindness. It's like, that's what gets me. It's
Speaker 2: the kindness of two people who are in love and
Speaker 2: finding their way to each other. And I just that
Speaker 2: I really relate to. It's just a it's a beautifully
Speaker 2: well told story.
Speaker 1: How do you relate to that? What is it when
Speaker 1: you say two people trying to find each other? Is that?
Speaker 1: Have you got experience in that?
Speaker 2: No? No, I mean, look, I just think that's I
Speaker 2: just love that kind of a love story. I just
Speaker 2: think it's it's very simply told, like you know, in
Speaker 2: comparison to The Bodyguard, where I go, it's you know,
Speaker 2: it's a good, hit me in the face love story. Sure,
Speaker 2: but when you got something for me that I just
Speaker 2: find a little bit softer, gentler, And that's what I
Speaker 2: That's what gets me. That's what I just like again,
Speaker 2: you know, like the Say Anything movie where it's two
Speaker 2: teenagers in love.
Speaker 1: Yeah, any movie really about love that you connect with.
Speaker 1: The last one I was thinking of was love actually, yeah,
Speaker 1: and all the different stories in love actually in the
Speaker 1: different way love is expressed, and all the machinations of love.
Speaker 2: Colin Firth's my favorite one in that for the love story, Yes,
Speaker 2: learning another language. They had love across, you know, without
Speaker 2: even understanding each other with words. There was a feeling,
Speaker 2: you know, and when they captured that feeling on film
Speaker 2: of like that spark that you could see between them,
Speaker 2: it's like, oh, I love that, you know. That's the
Speaker 2: essence of love and attraction, which is so exciting to me.
Speaker 1: It's my favorite time of day. Criving you.
Speaker 2: A part Mastrich.
Speaker 1: The Shell. Well, we'd love to know your favorite love
Speaker 1: stories and also why why they shaped your view of
Speaker 1: love and relationship.
Speaker 2: I have one more question for you, because this one
Speaker 2: kind of blew me away. On the list, you have
Speaker 2: Beauty and the Beast, and I'm wondering.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Beauty and the Beast, the Robbie Benson Beauty and
Speaker 1: the Beast. Yeah, why from nineteen ninety one? Look, and
Speaker 1: this is weird. I don't know. Robbie Benson is an
Speaker 1: American actor and he did a movie about he lived
Speaker 1: in a bubble. His immunity was down.
Speaker 2: Yeah, in the bubble.
Speaker 1: I guess I was maybe fifteen or sixteen, And the
Speaker 1: whole concept of that was blew me away as an
Speaker 1: adolescent guy. And I just really liked his act. And
Speaker 1: then when I heard his voice and he was the
Speaker 1: Beast and he could do this.
Speaker 2: This beastly acting, he fell in love with Robbie Benson
Speaker 2: all over again.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all over again. And this thing that the Beast
Speaker 1: was so arrogant as a prince right before he became
Speaker 1: the Beast, and then he had to find humility and
Speaker 1: kindness and he does, and it's too late in the end.
Speaker 1: But then the magic comes and it's not too late.
Speaker 1: It's all saved and he ends up changing, and I
Speaker 1: just I love that. And maybe that's a tailor's old
Speaker 1: of time. It is, it definitely is. Thank you, Angela
Speaker 1: Lansbury Taylor's Oldest Tale.
Speaker 3: US oldest time song as old as rhyme beauty sub.
Speaker 1: I think that maybe I related to it because maybe
Speaker 1: I felt beastly in a way and needed to change
Speaker 1: and grow and learn and learn humility and learn. Just
Speaker 1: it just touched me. Yeah, it, it did. It. Just
Speaker 1: I learned a lot and was like, okay, now, no,
Speaker 1: you need to be a better listener.
Speaker 2: It does need to be more patient. Yeah, I do
Speaker 2: get that. That is that that is a good imagery,
Speaker 2: you know, to put across that those the arrogance of
Speaker 2: people is not going to win you. Yeah, friends and lovers, it's.
Speaker 1: Not all about me, you know. We had to learn that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: which was a really big lesson for me. You know,
Speaker 1: it's not all about me, mate, the narcissistic part of it,
Speaker 1: I get. I learned a lot from that. Interesting and
Speaker 1: yes it was a cartoon and the fact that I
Speaker 1: probably watched it twenty times because we watched it with
Speaker 1: the kids, you know. So, I mean it was a
Speaker 1: bit like Tarzan, watching Tarzan the animated movie, and I
Speaker 1: watched it with Lotus when she was all those times,
Speaker 1: and coupled with the Phil Collins soundtrack. Yes, and I
Speaker 1: mean it's still I'm swallowing purposefully to hold back the
Speaker 1: tears of You'll be in my heart. I still get it.
Speaker 1: So you're a beast? How dare you pick this topic?
Speaker 3: You?
Speaker 2: I didn't know you were going to go Tarzi.
Speaker 3: I don't know either.
Speaker 1: I didn't even ride it on my legs.
Speaker 2: It's not here in my heart, I know. See that's
Speaker 2: you that texts you back to your That's what touches
Speaker 2: you is the music.
Speaker 1: And also the fact that Lola would which she would
Speaker 1: sit in my lap and she'd lie back and put
Speaker 1: her arms around my ears and yeah, da, let's watch
Speaker 1: it again.
Speaker 2: It's a great love story you and your daughter.
Speaker 1: It is.
Speaker 2: And I think that's probably also what does make a
Speaker 2: movie specialist. Who you see it with, what time of
Speaker 2: your life you're seeing it in.
Speaker 1: And yeah, because you can watch these films also at
Speaker 1: a time when you've just caught the parking inspector putting
Speaker 1: a ticket on your on your windshield and all the
Speaker 1: feelings that go along with that sort of thing. And
Speaker 1: then and but then when your other times, when your
Speaker 1: receptors are open and you're ready to suck it to me. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm in. I'm in for this ride. So we'd love
Speaker 1: to hear yours. We'd love to hear hit us up
Speaker 1: on our socials. I'm on Instagram at Cameron Datto and
Speaker 1: Ali you're.
Speaker 2: At Ali Daddo, Ali daddo.
Speaker 1: Yeah, hit us up, and we'd love to hear your romance.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and if you agree with any of our favorite
Speaker 2: films as well, especially any Man. Thanks for listening, all right,
Speaker 2: take care