1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: This is the Fitty and Whipper with Kate Richie podcast. 2 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 2: I just got a text from my mom. 3 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: Yes, because I'm a textbot an expert a textee, write 4 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 1: my reply coming love. Things are getting weird. 5 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 2: Things are getting really weird. 6 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 3: Sarcasm is very hard to portray through a text, isn't it. 7 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:22,319 Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean this is why we. 8 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 3: Need to dissect some of these messages, because we don't 9 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 3: know what's going on. 10 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 1: All right, put yourself in this position. Put yourself in 11 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 1: Holly's position. So Jake is nineteen and is dating his 12 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 1: first girlfriend, Holly, who's twenty one, who stayed over for 13 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: the first time this week. Okay, what's interesting is that 14 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 1: Jake still lives at home. The message reads from Holly 15 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 1: to Jake. I didn't want to say anything while I 16 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: was still at your parents' house, But why the f 17 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: did your mom come in and tuck you into bed 18 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: last night? That's so so weird? Does she do that 19 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: every night? Do you know how weird I felt like 20 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: next to you while she adjusted your blankets and pattered 21 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 1: to your head. Give me one good reason. Well that's 22 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: not a red flag thirteen times this? Does this still happen? 23 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 3: How old were you before your mom stopped tucking you 24 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 3: into bed? 25 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: Not Mummy, No, no, mummy? Are you sorry? Mom? This 26 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:27,399 Speaker 1: is Holly. Have you met Holly? Do you want to 27 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 1: tuck her in? 28 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 4: No? 29 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 2: Just you Dolly. I mean we're having a conversation. 30 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 3: B J and I having a conversation now, and how 31 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 3: old the boys are going to be. 32 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 2: Before they stop taking their soft toys to bed? Still 33 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 2: doesn't know what I mean? Doesn't matter, mate, I mean 34 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 2: that's but tucking. 35 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 3: I mean it gets to a point where, especially a 36 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 3: young man, where you've got to say, Mum, I don't. 37 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 2: Think you need to tuck me in anymore. I'm right, 38 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 2: I'm nineteen years. 39 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: Of Polly's here with me and she's a couple of 40 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: years older than me, and she's tucked me in as well, 41 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: so I don't need to worry about that. If it 42 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: was me, I would have been like, where's my milk 43 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: and cookies? Think Holly's there to tuck his brains there? 44 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 2: Be honest. Yet now that's something mother can't do. 45 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 1: Kate and Penrith on the topic of the red flags, have 46 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: you ever experienced anything like this? 47 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 4: Oh? Look, I was when I first started dating my husband. 48 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 4: It wasn't as bad as that, but his mum used 49 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 4: are always come in and clean his room and we 50 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 4: would be in the room together and she would come 51 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 4: in and just start tidying up his room, and you know, 52 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 4: when I was not there, she would also go through 53 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 4: his draws. But look, we ended up just having a 54 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 4: really honest conversation about it, and I said, I think 55 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 4: that you really need to tell your mom that you're 56 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 4: a crown boy and you can do this on your own. 57 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:51,959 Speaker 4: And eventually you got you got it after a few 58 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 4: honest conversations. But now we're married with bud. 59 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 2: Kids, Okay, And is she still hard work now that 60 00:02:57,760 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 2: you're married. 61 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 4: Look, she's actually amazing. Now she's. 62 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:07,519 Speaker 1: Oh my god, you take her an any state, won't you? Kate? 63 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 2: That is extraordinary? Sure? 64 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: Can we can we get onto the topic of red 65 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 1: flags like that is one? Really it's the first night 66 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:16,519 Speaker 1: she stayed over. 67 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 2: Like when you see a red flag so early. 68 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 3: Does it say a lot about a person if you're 69 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 3: still letting that happen, like I think it says even 70 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 3: more if you let that happen while you're in the room. 71 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 2: Still, just give your mama heads up before. 72 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 3: And he mum don't come in with the tucking, you 73 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 3: know the routine tonight, Just don't do the tuck bit. 74 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 2: I'm trying to impress this girl. She's my girlfriend. 75 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: Don't need the tucking, and don't pat my head. 76 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 2: It's getting really weird. 77 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 1: She's here for that. If you've been to the start 78 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: of a relationship, those early red flags. Kira in Camden, Hello, 79 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: h you guys, all right? 80 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 2: What was the red flag? 81 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: So this was fourteen years ago, our first state. 82 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 4: We went to watch a movie and he fell asleep. 83 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 2: Okay, is that a red flag? 84 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 1: Or is he working hard? 85 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 2: Is he a plumber or a trade or he was 86 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 2: seventeen at this time? 87 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 4: Fourteen years later? 88 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 2: Oh beautiful, can you remember what the movie was, Kira? 89 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 4: It was Getting to the Greek which that was his 90 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 4: argument that it wasn't the best man, Russell. 91 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 2: Brand it's a funny film. No it's not, mate, That 92 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 2: is a funny film. That's a good film. 93 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 3: And he obviously knew that Russell Brown would be canceled 94 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 3: at some stage, and he's gone a slate, that's what 95 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 3: he's done. 96 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 2: Ashley and Cherry Brooke. What do you consider a red flag? 97 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 2: Ash a meddling? 98 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 1: Mother? 99 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 2: Oh, here we go on the top of how meddling 100 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 2: was she. 101 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 4: Telling him what to wear on a date, telling him 102 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 4: what he should order at the restaurant? Was she right though? 103 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 1: Asherman, It's one thing for mom to be a pain 104 00:04:57,960 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 1: in the bum, but if she's actually right and she's 105 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,479 Speaker 1: making him look good to. 106 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 2: Order at a restaurant made. 107 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 3: Are you serious? 108 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 2: Did you order for you should too much? 109 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 4: It was too much? 110 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 1: Did you? 111 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 2: Did you confront him about it and say, look, what's 112 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 2: the gay with your mum? Is it a bit full on? 113 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 4: No? 114 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 3: Iran, I'm going thanks Vanessa and Bankstown red flags? 115 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 2: Ness, what do you got for us? Yeah? 116 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 4: So my red flag is that he had a personalized 117 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 4: car place you can't get in the car with someone's car. 118 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 4: Place very entitled to me? 119 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: Okay, Vanessa, what was the number plate? 120 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 4: I think? Okay? Said, so was I And that's all 121 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 4: I can really say with the c at the end, serious, 122 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 4: not joking. 123 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 2: Did he did he? Did he love a bit of himself? Ness? 124 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 2: I absolutely? 125 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 4: It's white on down. 126 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, get well done. 127 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 1: That's got on you? 128 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 2: Becking bronze red flags? 129 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:11,479 Speaker 4: Beck Oh dirty stilthy hair. 130 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 1: Oh but knits like knit type hair? 131 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 4: Oh no, it don't even have to be and it's 132 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:19,479 Speaker 4: just filthy, dirty, greasy, stinky hair. 133 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:23,720 Speaker 3: Did you give him any sort of tips or did 134 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 3: you give him any sort of clues to wash his hair? 135 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 2: Beck? 136 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 4: Oh, it was just like, oh no, thanks Mane. 137 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:33,840 Speaker 1: Didn't you notice it early on? Beck, Like when you 138 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: first looked up with him, didn't you. You're rubbing your 139 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 1: hands through his hair and you think, oh, this is 140 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,359 Speaker 1: so romantic, and then you had like a grease slick 141 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: on your palms, and. 142 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 4: Then I just wiped it down his shirt and SI's 143 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 4: not wear out? 144 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 2: Oh what is it? 145 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: Fil yeah? 146 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 2: Or wax when they just leave the wax in for ages? 147 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 2: Oh my god, grease, Tommy, what do you use again? 148 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: You've got the frize dismissed, Yeah, Redkin's frizze dismiss. 149 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 2: Red red Can Yeah, yep, yeah not red Ken. No, no, 150 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 2: absolutely right. And you here to use a bit of 151 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 2: ad our sassoon, don't you, tom. 152 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: Not? 153 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 2: Since he died. I don't, but the like you just 154 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 2: stepped out of a salon, he left it to ssoon 155 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 2: gone to sesoon. Very good. Rhyme's on fire. We should 156 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 2: tuck you in later. 157 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: I think it. 158 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 2: Becomes Claire fizzle 159 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: You since Whippa with Kate Ritchie is a Nova podcast 160 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: to walk great shows like this, Download the Nova player, 161 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: Fire the app store, or Google Play.